[Mikrotik] Routing VPN Issue
Trying to figure out an odd routing issue with a PtP VPN setup. Diagram Below: (10.7.65.0 subnet) | | Sonicwall (10.7.65.1) | | Mikrotik RB (10.7.65.2) | | (IPSEC/IPIP VPN) | | Mikrotik RB (172.23.65.1) | | (172.23.65.0 subnet) Problem I'm having is connecting to devices on the 10.7.65.0 subnet from the 172.23.65.0 subnet. The problem also happens when you to a PPtP VPN directly to the 10.7.65.2 router. Running an IP scan from the 10.7.65.2 router shows all the devices on the 10.7.65.0 subnet. Also, when running an IP scan from the 10.7.65.2 router on the 172.23.65.0 subnet shows every IP address with the same MAC address and 0ms, but does ping the devices correctly. I am running OSPF between the MT routers. I do not have access to the Sonicwall device as it's being managed by another company. Any thoughts would be appreciated. -- ---- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://mail.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] RB915 Wireless Station DHCP Client
That's my next step. Contact the consultant that set it up, ask for a static IP and what the exact security settings are. On 6/15/2013 12:40 AM, Grand Avenue Broadband wrote: Ah, I thought it was a MikroTik. What you're describing sounds something like the behavior of those lame Scientific Atlanta cable modems that the some of the oldest Cox customers still have. They would issue exactly one DHCP address and make exactly one ARP entry during any power cycle. If you tried to substitute devices without powering down the modem, it wouldn't talk to you. You could always cheat and just appropriate an unused IP address in the AP's address range as your static. Especially if you can get the AP admin to shorten his pool to guarantee it to you. On Jun 14, 2013, at 9:06 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: Problem is I do have access to the AP it is connecting to. I'm not even sure what brand AP it is. I will be asking those questions Monday when they get me in touch with the company that setup the wireless network. On 6/14/2013 4:39 PM, Grand Avenue Broadband wrote: Check the authoritative and delay-threshold values in the DHCP server on the AP, and compare with what your client router is asking for. On Jun 14, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: I'm setting up a RB915 router for a small business. They are allowed free Internet access via a wireless system within the building. I'm trying to setup the router as a Station client and pulling a dhcp address from the AP. I can get it to work, but as soon as reboot the router, the router cannot pull an ip address from the AP. If I mess around with scanning and connecting to the AP, it will eventually get an IP. I'm running 6.1 software, and the AP is secured with WPA2. Anyone seen this issue? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://mail.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://mail.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] RB915 Wireless Station DHCP Client
Typo on my part, 951. On 6/15/2013 3:46 AM, Tayeb Meftah wrote: Do rb915 exist Or rb951 Envoyé de mon iPad Le 15 juin 2013 à 07:40, Grand Avenue Broadband a écrit : Ah, I thought it was a MikroTik. What you're describing sounds something like the behavior of those lame Scientific Atlanta cable modems that the some of the oldest Cox customers still have. They would issue exactly one DHCP address and make exactly one ARP entry during any power cycle. If you tried to substitute devices without powering down the modem, it wouldn't talk to you. You could always cheat and just appropriate an unused IP address in the AP's address range as your static. Especially if you can get the AP admin to shorten his pool to guarantee it to you. On Jun 14, 2013, at 9:06 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: Problem is I do have access to the AP it is connecting to. I'm not even sure what brand AP it is. I will be asking those questions Monday when they get me in touch with the company that setup the wireless network. On 6/14/2013 4:39 PM, Grand Avenue Broadband wrote: Check the authoritative and delay-threshold values in the DHCP server on the AP, and compare with what your client router is asking for. On Jun 14, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: I'm setting up a RB915 router for a small business. They are allowed free Internet access via a wireless system within the building. I'm trying to setup the router as a Station client and pulling a dhcp address from the AP. I can get it to work, but as soon as reboot the router, the router cannot pull an ip address from the AP. If I mess around with scanning and connecting to the AP, it will eventually get an IP. I'm running 6.1 software, and the AP is secured with WPA2. Anyone seen this issue? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://mail.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://mail.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://mail.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] RB915 Wireless Station DHCP Client
Problem is I do have access to the AP it is connecting to. I'm not even sure what brand AP it is. I will be asking those questions Monday when they get me in touch with the company that setup the wireless network. On 6/14/2013 4:39 PM, Grand Avenue Broadband wrote: Check the authoritative and delay-threshold values in the DHCP server on the AP, and compare with what your client router is asking for. On Jun 14, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: I'm setting up a RB915 router for a small business. They are allowed free Internet access via a wireless system within the building. I'm trying to setup the router as a Station client and pulling a dhcp address from the AP. I can get it to work, but as soon as reboot the router, the router cannot pull an ip address from the AP. If I mess around with scanning and connecting to the AP, it will eventually get an IP. I'm running 6.1 software, and the AP is secured with WPA2. Anyone seen this issue? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://mail.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- ---- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://mail.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] RB915 Wireless Station DHCP Client
I'm setting up a RB915 router for a small business. They are allowed free Internet access via a wireless system within the building. I'm trying to setup the router as a Station client and pulling a dhcp address from the AP. I can get it to work, but as soon as reboot the router, the router cannot pull an ip address from the AP. If I mess around with scanning and connecting to the AP, it will eventually get an IP. I'm running 6.1 software, and the AP is secured with WPA2. Anyone seen this issue? -- ---- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://mail.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] RB750UP PoE Question
This is what I can find on the Polycom: Max draw 4.3w Power • Built-in, auto-sensing IEEE 802.3af Power Over Ethernet (Class2) • External universal input AC adapter (optional4 ; 24V DC@500mA) Looks like the 751 draws a max of 10w, though i could go with a 951 which only draws 3w max. On 3/25/2013 11:48 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Any idea what kind of volts and amp/watt? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: I'm looking for a small office router with PoE that can power up to 2 IP phones (Polycom SoundPoint IP 335) and also a 751 AP. Will the RB750UP support powering all these devices? -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com __**_ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://mail.butchevans.com/**mailman/listinfo/mikrotik<http://mail.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20130325/e10776f9/attachment.html> ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://mail.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- ---- ---- ---- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://mail.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] RB750UP PoE Question
I'm looking for a small office router with PoE that can power up to 2 IP phones (Polycom SoundPoint IP 335) and also a 751 AP. Will the RB750UP support powering all these devices? -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://mail.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik AP and FreeRadius
I was able to use attr_rewrite in freeradius to modify the NAS port ID with a unique number, that seems to have fixed my issue. On 1/2/2013 6:24 PM, Blake Covarrubias wrote: On Dec 31, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Chris Gotstein wrote: Is there a way in FreeRadius to add a unique port for each mac address authenticated? First, you probably want to use RADIUS accounting messages to track connected clients rather than Access Requests. Also, the NAS-Port-Id will always show as the wireless interface's name for wirelessly connected clients. You'll want to use the RADIUS accounting session ID for track unique registrations. -- Blake Covarrubias -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 4887 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mail.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20130102/a0d0dea2/attachment.bin> ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://mail.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://mail.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] Mikrotik AP and FreeRadius
I'm setting up Radius authentication to link our billing system and access points. What i'm doing is using FreeRadius as a proxy to our billing radius server to overcome some limitations that it has. I have no problem getting the radios to authentication, but when i query our billing software to see who's connected, i'm only seeing 1 mac address per AP. It appears that since everyone on the mikrotik AP is connecting to wlan1, i'm only seeing that 1 port come through radius. Is there a way in FreeRadius to add a unique port for each mac address authenticated? -- ---- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://mail.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] Cisco 5500 WLAN Controller with MT Hotspot
I want to use the hotspot feature on a MT router with a Cisco WLAN Controller 5500. We are using VLANs on the swithes and APs. I have configured the controller to setup a new WLAN with the correct VLAN ID. I have put the MT router on the VLAN ID and also on the VLAN1 with a default route on the core router pointing the correct subnet to the MT router. MT router can contact all devices in the network regardless of the VLAN they are on, but it cannot ping the WLAN controller. The WLAN controller cannot ping the MT router. I can get to the MT router without any issues from anywhere on the network. Anyone every setup a MT router hotspot with a Cisco WLAN Controller? -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] MT Downgrade from 5.2 to 4.17
Answered my own question. Downgrading worked perfectly from 5.2 to 4.17, no config loss. On 5/18/2011 10:31 AM, Chris Gotstein wrote: Any issues with downgrading from 5.2 to 4.17 on a 433AH board? Having some funky issues with wireless since going to 5.2. Will the config remain in place after the downgrade? -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] MT Downgrade from 5.2 to 4.17
Any issues with downgrading from 5.2 to 4.17 on a 433AH board? Having some funky issues with wireless since going to 5.2. Will the config remain in place after the downgrade? -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] RB411AH Freezes when Freezing!?!?
All ours have a single XR2 radio in them. Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 12/1/2010 6:14 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: > With or without radios? Radios may add a lot of heat to keep things > nice. We like to run things together in letter sorters to keep the > heat up. That said, I just put insulation all around a box that we > lifted off the ground to keep heat retention up on the mountain. > > > Robert > > On 12/01/2010 04:06 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: >> That's odd, we run 411AH and 433AH with no issues down to -20 and >> colder. Been in the air for over 2 years. Knock on wood... > >> >> Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com > >> On 12/1/2010 6:04 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: >>> If you check the archives you should see some posts from me about my >>> RB433's. At -5 they are hard locked. We have gutted them all for Ubnt >>> and switches or moved them into warmer cases. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Terri Kelley wrote: >>>> I have had a couple like this. Never could track it down but figured it >>>> was something on the board not soldered correctly etc where temp change >>>> caused expansion or contraction. >>>> >>>> Terri >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 1, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>> >>>>> What kind if temperatures? Mountain top? >>>>> >>>>> Mine have worked in 0F for a couple years. >>>>> On Dec 1, 2010 6:01 PM, "Louis Arsenault" wrote: >>>>>> I have a RB411AH that when the temp gets around freezing the board >>>>>> will lock up and then reboot. >>>>>> This unit was a back haul unit that had been experiencing issues the >>>>>> last few cold nights we had. >>>>>> I replaced the unit today and brought it back to the office. I am >>>>>> able to reproduce the issue by putting the unit in the freezer at our >>>>>> office. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any ideas on what would be causing this and how to test and resolve the >>>>> issue? >>>>>> >>>>>> -Louis >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>> RouterOS >>>>> -- next part -- >>>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> URL: >>>>> <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20101201/2e70cedc/attachment.html> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>> >>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>> RouterOS >>>> >>>> -- next part -- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20101201/86104ec9/attachment.html> >>>> ___ >>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>> >>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>> RouterOS >>>> >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS > ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] RB411AH Freezes when Freezing!?!?
That's odd, we run 411AH and 433AH with no issues down to -20 and colder. Been in the air for over 2 years. Knock on wood... Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 12/1/2010 6:04 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: > If you check the archives you should see some posts from me about my > RB433's. At -5 they are hard locked. We have gutted them all for Ubnt > and switches or moved them into warmer cases. > > > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Terri Kelley wrote: >> I have had a couple like this. Never could track it down but figured it was >> something on the board not soldered correctly etc where temp change caused >> expansion or contraction. >> >> Terri >> >> >> >> On Dec 1, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >>> What kind if temperatures? Mountain top? >>> >>> Mine have worked in 0F for a couple years. >>> On Dec 1, 2010 6:01 PM, "Louis Arsenault" wrote: >>>> I have a RB411AH that when the temp gets around freezing the board >>>> will lock up and then reboot. >>>> This unit was a back haul unit that had been experiencing issues the >>>> last few cold nights we had. >>>> I replaced the unit today and brought it back to the office. I am >>>> able to reproduce the issue by putting the unit in the freezer at our >>>> office. >>>> >>>> Any ideas on what would be causing this and how to test and resolve the >>> issue? >>>> >>>> -Louis >>>> ___ >>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>> >>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>> RouterOS >>> -- next part -- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20101201/2e70cedc/attachment.html> >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS >> >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20101201/86104ec9/attachment.html> >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS >> > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik NAT and Netequalizer
Ok, i f*up'd the name of the device. I meant to write Netequalizer, not netspective. Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 10/5/2010 2:18 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: > Ran into a very strange problem between a Mikrotik router doing NAT and > our Netspective bandwidth shaper. About a year ago i ran into this > problem with a client and chalked it up to something funky and just > removed the rule from the netspective box. Today, i installed another > MT box and saw the same problem. What happens is when there is a hard > limit set on the public ip that the MT box has, any decent size > downloads will fail and strange timeouts start to occur. If i remove > the rule from the netspective, the problem goes away, but then the > client is set to wide open bandwidth. I know i can do simple queues on > the MT to get around this, but i'd rather do all my shaping on the > netspective box. Anyone else run into this issue or something similar? > ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] Mikrotik NAT and Netspective
Ran into a very strange problem between a Mikrotik router doing NAT and our Netspective bandwidth shaper. About a year ago i ran into this problem with a client and chalked it up to something funky and just removed the rule from the netspective box. Today, i installed another MT box and saw the same problem. What happens is when there is a hard limit set on the public ip that the MT box has, any decent size downloads will fail and strange timeouts start to occur. If i remove the rule from the netspective, the problem goes away, but then the client is set to wide open bandwidth. I know i can do simple queues on the MT to get around this, but i'd rather do all my shaping on the netspective box. Anyone else run into this issue or something similar? -- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Stable release ?
Been running 4.11 on all our APs for quite a while now. Been very stable for us. Also have 4.11 loaded on business customer routers without issues. On 8/29/2010 10:54 AM, Ralph wrote: What is a good stable release? Due to replacing some damaged Routerboards with the 750G, I find myself with a mixture of Versions 3.6 all the way up to 4.5 in our network. We're using the Dude and of course version 3.6 of it will not talk to the version 4 Routerboards, and the latest version of Dude will not talk to the old ones. Since I don't think I can run Ver 3.x on the 750g units, I guess I have to upgrade everything to something that will all work in common. What is recommended as a stable version that is recent? We aren't doing anything esoteric on the router- mostly just running Hotspot and a bit of routing as well. Ralph Brightlan.net ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- ---- Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP
Is the list active? I'm pretty sure i'm subscribed to it. I miss the tranzeo list from Part-15. ---- Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 4/21/2010 2:25 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote: > There are new Tranzeo lists to complain on at wispa. > > ;P > > ryan > > > > On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:42 AM, "Damian Wallace" > wrote: > >> Point taken. We are working on it. >> >> Back to MT issues. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris >> Gotstein >> Sent: April-21-10 11:16 AM >> To: Mikrotik discussions >> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: Mikrotik/StarOS >> 10mhz/5mhz channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam >> >> Running MT APs with XR2 cards. No problems connecting Tranzeo CPQ/SL2 >> or UBNT radios when using a 10mhz channel. >> >> I do agree on how well we like our Tranzeo radios. I just wish they >> could come down on the price of the CPQ-19f radio. We can get a >> bullet2HP w/ 19db panel for a lot less. The price on the >> CPQ-15f/SL2-15f is perfect and competitive with a Bullet2 w/ 16db panel. >> >> >> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >> >> On 4/21/2010 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> Does Tranzeo work with Ubnt or MT or StarOS in 5 or 10 mhz channels? >>> >>> I guess 2.4 and 5ghz are different compatibility wise as it's come to >> light >>> that StarOS and MT work together in 5ghz but not 2.4. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue >>> that counts." >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Robert Andrews >> wrote: >>> >>> Damian, >>> Thank you for making this public. We know that MT and >> Valemount >>> have >>> no love lost, and thanks to both Tranzeo and UBNT for working with >> both >>> of them. Your competitive spirit made this business thrive against >>> proprietary interests... We wish that StarOS and MT would have >>> cooperated in this to make it so we didn't have to choose one or the >>> other. We would have both in our network for each of their particular >>> advantages if they had Our testing showed ST did better on >>> customer throughput and MT did better as real routers... >>> >>> Tranzeo and UBNT did best as customer equipment with Tranzeo doing >>> better in marginal conditions and UBNT doing better in price... So >> we >>> have both. >>> >>> Best, >>> Robert >>> >>> On 04/21/2010 10:22 AM, Damian Wallace wrote: >>>>>> Insert Flame here ^^^ >>>>>> >>>>>> State Secret. >>>>>> >>>>>> The beacons from one are in a different format than the other. It >> has to >>>>>> fixed in the code by one or the other, preferably both. An SA, >> unless >>>>>> it's a high end lab grade one, won't show the difference. >> Since 5 >>>>>> MHz was a lucky accident on Atheros' part, they never documented >> how to >>>>>> use it fully so different vendors made reasonable, but different, >>>>>> choices about how to modify their drivers to use it. Result is >> staring >>>>>> Matt in the face with an evil grin. It can be fixed, in code >> though. >>>>>> After all, Tranzeo and other brands can connect to both. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Damian >>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of D. Ryan >> Spott >>>>>> Sent: April-21-10 10:09 AM >>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>>>> Cc: Mikrotik discussions >>>>>> Subject: [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: [Mikrotik] M
Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP
Ah! my bad. In that situation, i have run into some older or odd gear that didn't like or didn't offer the option of AES when using WPA/WPA2. On the "n" gear i've never run into an issue with WPA2 using AES and i almost always configure it for AES. ---- Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 4/21/2010 1:56 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > I have never encrypted the 802.11 customers, but I do use 10mhz channels. > > I was referring to inside Wifi APs and such. Primarily a business that asks > for/wants it (not often!) and myself. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue > that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: > >> About a year ago we stopped using encryption between our APs and >> clients. There were to many issues between different vendors that would >> cause things to break. Since dropping encryption, we've have far less >> issues with radio's locking up or having trouble connecting. >> >> >> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >> >> On 4/21/2010 1:46 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> I thought it was 802.11n only, but WPA sucks with TKIP. Use AES and it >>> should work better. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue >>> that counts.” >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Damian Wallace >> wrote: >>> >>>> Point taken. We are working on it. >>>> >>>> Back to MT issues. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris >>>> Gotstein >>>> Sent: April-21-10 11:16 AM >>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: Mikrotik/StarOS >>>> 10mhz/5mhz channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam >>>> >>>> Running MT APs with XR2 cards. No problems connecting Tranzeo CPQ/SL2 >>>> or UBNT radios when using a 10mhz channel. >>>> >>>> I do agree on how well we like our Tranzeo radios. I just wish they >>>> could come down on the price of the CPQ-19f radio. We can get a >>>> bullet2HP w/ 19db panel for a lot less. The price on the >>>> CPQ-15f/SL2-15f is perfect and competitive with a Bullet2 w/ 16db panel. >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>>> >>>> On 4/21/2010 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>> Does Tranzeo work with Ubnt or MT or StarOS in 5 or 10 mhz channels? >>>>> >>>>> I guess 2.4 and 5ghz are different compatibility wise as it's come to >>>> light >>>>> that StarOS and MT work together in 5ghz but not 2.4. >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>> continue >>>>> that counts." >>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Robert Andrews >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Damian, >>>>>Thank you for making this public. We know that MT and >>>> Valemount >>>>> have >>>>> no love lost, and thanks to both Tranzeo and UBNT for working with >>>> both >>>>> of them. Your competitive spirit made this business thrive against >>>>> proprietary interests... We wish that StarOS and MT would have >>>>>
Re: [Mikrotik] Was 5 Mhz, now WPA TKIP
About a year ago we stopped using encryption between our APs and clients. There were to many issues between different vendors that would cause things to break. Since dropping encryption, we've have far less issues with radio's locking up or having trouble connecting. ---- Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 4/21/2010 1:46 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > I thought it was 802.11n only, but WPA sucks with TKIP. Use AES and it > should work better. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue > that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Damian Wallace wrote: > >> Point taken. We are working on it. >> >> Back to MT issues. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris >> Gotstein >> Sent: April-21-10 11:16 AM >> To: Mikrotik discussions >> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: Mikrotik/StarOS >> 10mhz/5mhz channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam >> >> Running MT APs with XR2 cards. No problems connecting Tranzeo CPQ/SL2 >> or UBNT radios when using a 10mhz channel. >> >> I do agree on how well we like our Tranzeo radios. I just wish they >> could come down on the price of the CPQ-19f radio. We can get a >> bullet2HP w/ 19db panel for a lot less. The price on the >> CPQ-15f/SL2-15f is perfect and competitive with a Bullet2 w/ 16db panel. >> >> >> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >> >> On 4/21/2010 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> Does Tranzeo work with Ubnt or MT or StarOS in 5 or 10 mhz channels? >>> >>> I guess 2.4 and 5ghz are different compatibility wise as it's come to >> light >>> that StarOS and MT work together in 5ghz but not 2.4. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue >>> that counts." >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Robert Andrews >> wrote: >>> >>> Damian, >>>Thank you for making this public. We know that MT and >> Valemount >>> have >>> no love lost, and thanks to both Tranzeo and UBNT for working with >> both >>> of them. Your competitive spirit made this business thrive against >>> proprietary interests... We wish that StarOS and MT would have >>> cooperated in this to make it so we didn't have to choose one or the >>> other. We would have both in our network for each of their particular >>> advantages if they had Our testing showed ST did better on >>> customer throughput and MT did better as real routers... >>> >>> Tranzeo and UBNT did best as customer equipment with Tranzeo doing >>> better in marginal conditions and UBNT doing better in price... So >> we >>> have both. >>> >>> Best, >>>Robert >>> >>> On 04/21/2010 10:22 AM, Damian Wallace wrote: >>>>>> Insert Flame here ^^^ >>>>>> >>>>>> State Secret. >>>>>> >>>>>> The beacons from one are in a different format than the other. It >> has to >>>>>> fixed in the code by one or the other, preferably both. An SA, >> unless >>>>>> it's a high end lab grade one, won't show the difference. >> Since 5 >>>>>> MHz was a lucky accident on Atheros' part, they never documented >> how to >>>>>> use it fully so different vendors made reasonable, but different, >>>>>> choices about how to modify their drivers to use it. Result is >> staring >>>>>> Matt in the face with an evil grin. It can be fixed, in code >> though. >>>>>> After all, Tranzeo and other brands can connect to both. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Damian >>>>&g
Re: [Mikrotik] [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: Mikrotik/StarOS 10mhz/5mhz channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam
Running MT APs with XR2 cards. No problems connecting Tranzeo CPQ/SL2 or UBNT radios when using a 10mhz channel. I do agree on how well we like our Tranzeo radios. I just wish they could come down on the price of the CPQ-19f radio. We can get a bullet2HP w/ 19db panel for a lot less. The price on the CPQ-15f/SL2-15f is perfect and competitive with a Bullet2 w/ 16db panel. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 4/21/2010 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Does Tranzeo work with Ubnt or MT or StarOS in 5 or 10 mhz channels? > > I guess 2.4 and 5ghz are different compatibility wise as it's come to light > that StarOS and MT work together in 5ghz but not 2.4. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue > that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Robert Andrews > wrote: > > Damian, >Thank you for making this public. We know that MT and Valemount > have > no love lost, and thanks to both Tranzeo and UBNT for working with both > of them. Your competitive spirit made this business thrive against > proprietary interests... We wish that StarOS and MT would have > cooperated in this to make it so we didn't have to choose one or the > other. We would have both in our network for each of their particular > advantages if they had Our testing showed ST did better on > customer throughput and MT did better as real routers... > > Tranzeo and UBNT did best as customer equipment with Tranzeo doing > better in marginal conditions and UBNT doing better in price... So we > have both. > > Best, >Robert > > On 04/21/2010 10:22 AM, Damian Wallace wrote: >>>> Insert Flame here ^^^ >>>> >>>> State Secret. >>>> >>>> The beacons from one are in a different format than the other. It has to >>>> fixed in the code by one or the other, preferably both. An SA, unless >>>> it's a high end lab grade one, won't show the difference. Since 5 >>>> MHz was a lucky accident on Atheros' part, they never documented how to >>>> use it fully so different vendors made reasonable, but different, >>>> choices about how to modify their drivers to use it. Result is staring >>>> Matt in the face with an evil grin. It can be fixed, in code though. >>>> After all, Tranzeo and other brands can connect to both. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Damian >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott >>>> Sent: April-21-10 10:09 AM >>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>> Cc: Mikrotik discussions >>>> Subject: [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik/StarOS 10mhz/5mhz >>>> channel compatibility - Bayesian Filter detected spam >>>> >>>> What are the center frequencies reported by the staros and mtik boxes >>>> when you go to 10mhz channels? >>>> >>>> Do you have a spectrum analyzer? >>>> >>>> ryan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Did some more testing on this today. >>>>> >>>>> 5ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels seem to work fine, with Mikrotik as a >>>>> client to a StarOS AP. >>>>> >>>>> 2.4ghz 10mhz and 5mhz channels do not work at all with Mikrotik as a >>>>> client to a StarOS AP. I did verify that the 20mhz channel >>>>> settings worked fine. >>>>> >>>>> This was using Mikrotik R52 cards on both sides, Hardware Retries >>>>> set to 15 and tested under Mikrotik 2.9.48 and 3.25. StarOS is >>>>> version 1.3.23b. >>>>> >>>>> Ideas? >>>>> >>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>> >>>>> On 4/13/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >>>>>> What specifically is the problem? They won't connect on 5/10MHz on a >>>>>> StarOS AP? Is the StarOS AP an Atheros based AP? Have you tried >>>>>> setting Hardware Retries to 15 under advanced wireless settings on &
Re: [Mikrotik] VPN Issues
That was it. Thanks. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 4/5/2010 11:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Look for Butch's video he posted a few weeks ago about ARP proxy. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue > that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: > >> I'll give that a try. Just don't understand why it works on all the >> other VPNs i've setup. >> >> >> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >> >> On 4/5/2010 11:16 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> Make your VPN pool/IP range outside of that subnet. >>> >>> Then make a masquerade rule for that new range. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue >>> that counts.” >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Chris Gotstein >> wrote: >>> >>>> I have a RB433AH that i'm trying to VPN into and access the devices on >>>> the other side. The devices are all in the 192.168.1.0/24 range, the >> RB >>>> has 192.168.1.1 as its address. Setup and configured the VPN like i've >>>> done on a bunch of other boxes, but when i connect to it, i can only >>>> access the RB on 192.168.1.1, i cannot access the other devices behind >>>> the RB, ie 192.168.1.2. If i run the scan tool from the RB, it can see >>>> the devices. Not really sure what i'm missing here. Any thoughts? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>>> ___ >>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>> >>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>> RouterOS >>>> >>> -- next part -- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >> http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100405/b0920539/attachment.html >>> >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >> RouterOS >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >> RouterOS >> > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100405/75b9122d/attachment.html> > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] VPN Issues
I'll give that a try. Just don't understand why it works on all the other VPNs i've setup. ---- Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 4/5/2010 11:16 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Make your VPN pool/IP range outside of that subnet. > > Then make a masquerade rule for that new range. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue > that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: > >> I have a RB433AH that i'm trying to VPN into and access the devices on >> the other side. The devices are all in the 192.168.1.0/24 range, the RB >> has 192.168.1.1 as its address. Setup and configured the VPN like i've >> done on a bunch of other boxes, but when i connect to it, i can only >> access the RB on 192.168.1.1, i cannot access the other devices behind >> the RB, ie 192.168.1.2. If i run the scan tool from the RB, it can see >> the devices. Not really sure what i'm missing here. Any thoughts? >> >> -- >> >> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >> RouterOS >> > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100405/b0920539/attachment.html> > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] VPN Issues
I have a RB433AH that i'm trying to VPN into and access the devices on the other side. The devices are all in the 192.168.1.0/24 range, the RB has 192.168.1.1 as its address. Setup and configured the VPN like i've done on a bunch of other boxes, but when i connect to it, i can only access the RB on 192.168.1.1, i cannot access the other devices behind the RB, ie 192.168.1.2. If i run the scan tool from the RB, it can see the devices. Not really sure what i'm missing here. Any thoughts? -- ---- Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik v5 beta finally!
Same reason here, IPv6 over PPoE. I don't understand why they couldn't just add the features they listed to the 4.x train? ---- Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 3/31/2010 9:57 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Why have you been looking forward to it? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > continue that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Andrew Cox wrote: >> Woohoo! Been looking forward to this for so long :-D >> >> Oh and no this isn't an April fools joke :-D >> >> Regards, >> Andrew >> >> >> MikroTik RouterOS version 5.0beta1 released! >> >> Changelog: >> http://www.mikrotik.com/download/CHANGELOG_5 >> >> Torrent files: >> http://www.mikrotik.com/download/routeros-ALL-5.0beta1.torrent >> >> Regular HTTP download: >> http://www.mikrotik.com/download.html >> >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS >> > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: RB411AH Ethernet Issues - Bayesian Filter detected spam
The only issues i see with auto-negotiate not working is when you go switch to switch or switch to router, and Cisco recommends that you always lock the speed and duplex when connecting between switches and routers. In the past, there were issues with the software in the switch that would cause auto-negotiate not to work, but for the most part i haven't seen to many issues with it not working in the past couple years. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 3/25/2010 12:46 PM, Scott Reed wrote: > The question is why does Cisco still have a problem auto-negotiating? I > first saw this on Cisco switches over 10 years ago. > > Chris Gotstein wrote: >> Not sure what you mean? Been using Cisco switches/routers since 1998, >> never had any major issues with them. But they are definitly not plug >> and play. They have their quirks, but usually it's a config problem or >> a software upgrade needed. >> >> >> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >> >> On 3/25/2010 12:14 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: >> >>> Anyone have an insight why the father company of networking is so lame? >>> >>> On 03/25/2010 09:42 AM, Chris Gotstein wrote: >>> >>>> Always need to lock ports between switches, routers, etc. Been doing >>>> Cisco long enough to know that. Usually don't have to many problems >>>> with auto-negotiate on workstations and other end devices as long as >>>> the >>>> software on the switch is up-to-date. >>>> >>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>>> On 3/25/2010 11:36 AM, Damian Wallace wrote: >>>> >>>>> Auto negotiation + Cisco = Fail. >>>>> If you have a Cisco switch, LOCK the ports. I have a 2950 that won't >>>>> talk to another 2950 unless the ports are locked. >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris >>>>> Gotstein >>>>> Sent: March-25-10 9:17 AM >>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>>> Subject: [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: [Mikrotik] RB411AH Ethernet Issues - >>>>> Bayesian Filter detected spam >>>>> >>>>> Looks like it was an issue with the Cisco switch. Rebooted it and >>>>> things are working like normal. Very odd, never had that happen >>>>> before. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>>>> >>>>> On 3/25/2010 11:14 AM, Jon Paul Kelley wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have had RB450's and RB493AH's just have bad ports. I had a >>>>>> RB493AH, >>>>>> >>>>> brand >>>>> >>>>>> new out of the static bag, would create massive packet collisions and >>>>>> >>>>> high >>>>> >>>>>> cpu utilization when a cable was plugged into a certain port. They >>>>>> >>>>> just go >>>>> >>>>>> goofy sometimes. That is why I no longer order 1 if I need 1. I order >>>>>> >>>>> 5 if I >>>>> >>>>>> need one. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jon Paul Kelley >>>>>> CKS Wireless >>>>>> 903-589-0044 Office >>>>>> 903-625-0741 Mobile >>>>>> 903-541-0889 Fax >>>>>> website: www.ckswireless.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris >>>>>> >>>>> Gotstein >>>
Re: [Mikrotik] [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: RB411AH Ethernet Issues - Bayesian Filter detected spam
Not sure what you mean? Been using Cisco switches/routers since 1998, never had any major issues with them. But they are definitly not plug and play. They have their quirks, but usually it's a config problem or a software upgrade needed. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 3/25/2010 12:14 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: > Anyone have an insight why the father company of networking is so lame? > > On 03/25/2010 09:42 AM, Chris Gotstein wrote: >> Always need to lock ports between switches, routers, etc. Been doing >> Cisco long enough to know that. Usually don't have to many problems >> with auto-negotiate on workstations and other end devices as long as the >> software on the switch is up-to-date. > >> >> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com > >> On 3/25/2010 11:36 AM, Damian Wallace wrote: >>> Auto negotiation + Cisco = Fail. >>> >>> If you have a Cisco switch, LOCK the ports. I have a 2950 that won't >>> talk to another 2950 unless the ports are locked. >>> >>> -Original Message----- >>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris >>> Gotstein >>> Sent: March-25-10 9:17 AM >>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>> Subject: [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: [Mikrotik] RB411AH Ethernet Issues - >>> Bayesian Filter detected spam >>> >>> Looks like it was an issue with the Cisco switch. Rebooted it and >>> things are working like normal. Very odd, never had that happen before. >>> >>> >>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>> >>> On 3/25/2010 11:14 AM, Jon Paul Kelley wrote: >>>> I have had RB450's and RB493AH's just have bad ports. I had a RB493AH, >>> brand >>>> new out of the static bag, would create massive packet collisions and >>> high >>>> cpu utilization when a cable was plugged into a certain port. They >>> just go >>>> goofy sometimes. That is why I no longer order 1 if I need 1. I order >>> 5 if I >>>> need one. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jon Paul Kelley >>>> CKS Wireless >>>> 903-589-0044 Office >>>> 903-625-0741 Mobile >>>> 903-541-0889 Fax >>>> website: www.ckswireless.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris >>> Gotstein >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:01 AM >>>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>>> Subject: [Mikrotik] RB411AH Ethernet Issues >>>> >>>> I have a RB411AH up on a tower acting as a 2.4 AP. This morning i >>> lost >>>> contact with the radio, but there was still power to the unit and the >>>> switch showed it was connected. Rebooted the RB, and i was able to >>>> access it again, but it was very slow. Decided to upgrade the >>> software >>>> and copying the file locally took forever, very slow tranfer. >>> Replaced >>>> the PoE and the ethernet surge, as well as the ethernet patch cables. >>>> Same problem, very slow data rates to the radio. I'm guessing it's a >>>> blown ethernet port on the board. Ordering a replacement today, but >>>> wondering if anyone else has ran into this issue before? >>>> >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>> RouterOS >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS > ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: RB411AH Ethernet Issues - Bayesian Filter detected spam
Always need to lock ports between switches, routers, etc. Been doing Cisco long enough to know that. Usually don't have to many problems with auto-negotiate on workstations and other end devices as long as the software on the switch is up-to-date. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 3/25/2010 11:36 AM, Damian Wallace wrote: > Auto negotiation + Cisco = Fail. > > If you have a Cisco switch, LOCK the ports. I have a 2950 that won't > talk to another 2950 unless the ports are locked. > > -Original Message- > From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com > [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris > Gotstein > Sent: March-25-10 9:17 AM > To: Mikrotik discussions > Subject: [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: [Mikrotik] RB411AH Ethernet Issues - > Bayesian Filter detected spam > > Looks like it was an issue with the Cisco switch. Rebooted it and > things are working like normal. Very odd, never had that happen before. > > > Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP > http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com > > On 3/25/2010 11:14 AM, Jon Paul Kelley wrote: >> I have had RB450's and RB493AH's just have bad ports. I had a RB493AH, > brand >> new out of the static bag, would create massive packet collisions and > high >> cpu utilization when a cable was plugged into a certain port. They > just go >> goofy sometimes. That is why I no longer order 1 if I need 1. I order > 5 if I >> need one. >> >> >> >> >> >> Jon Paul Kelley >> CKS Wireless >> 903-589-0044 Office >> 903-625-0741 Mobile >> 903-541-0889 Fax >> website: www.ckswireless.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris > Gotstein >> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:01 AM >> To: Mikrotik discussions >> Subject: [Mikrotik] RB411AH Ethernet Issues >> >> I have a RB411AH up on a tower acting as a 2.4 AP. This morning i > lost >> contact with the radio, but there was still power to the unit and the >> switch showed it was connected. Rebooted the RB, and i was able to >> access it again, but it was very slow. Decided to upgrade the > software >> and copying the file locally took forever, very slow tranfer. > Replaced >> the PoE and the ethernet surge, as well as the ethernet patch cables. >> Same problem, very slow data rates to the radio. I'm guessing it's a >> blown ethernet port on the board. Ordering a replacement today, but >> wondering if anyone else has ran into this issue before? >> > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik > RouterOS > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] RB411AH Ethernet Issues
Looks like it was an issue with the Cisco switch. Rebooted it and things are working like normal. Very odd, never had that happen before. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 3/25/2010 11:14 AM, Jon Paul Kelley wrote: > I have had RB450's and RB493AH's just have bad ports. I had a RB493AH, brand > new out of the static bag, would create massive packet collisions and high > cpu utilization when a cable was plugged into a certain port. They just go > goofy sometimes. That is why I no longer order 1 if I need 1. I order 5 if I > need one. > > > > > > Jon Paul Kelley > CKS Wireless > 903-589-0044 Office > 903-625-0741 Mobile > 903-541-0889 Fax > website: www.ckswireless.com > > > -Original Message- > From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com > [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gotstein > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:01 AM > To: Mikrotik discussions > Subject: [Mikrotik] RB411AH Ethernet Issues > > I have a RB411AH up on a tower acting as a 2.4 AP. This morning i lost > contact with the radio, but there was still power to the unit and the > switch showed it was connected. Rebooted the RB, and i was able to > access it again, but it was very slow. Decided to upgrade the software > and copying the file locally took forever, very slow tranfer. Replaced > the PoE and the ethernet surge, as well as the ethernet patch cables. > Same problem, very slow data rates to the radio. I'm guessing it's a > blown ethernet port on the board. Ordering a replacement today, but > wondering if anyone else has ran into this issue before? > ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] RB411AH Ethernet Issues
Tried that, both switch and rb. no difference. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 3/25/2010 11:06 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: > Try setting the speed to either 10 or 100 mb/s instead of autonegotiation... > > On 03/25/2010 09:01 AM, Chris Gotstein wrote: >> I have a RB411AH up on a tower acting as a 2.4 AP. This morning i lost >> contact with the radio, but there was still power to the unit and the >> switch showed it was connected. Rebooted the RB, and i was able to >> access it again, but it was very slow. Decided to upgrade the software >> and copying the file locally took forever, very slow tranfer. Replaced >> the PoE and the ethernet surge, as well as the ethernet patch cables. >> Same problem, very slow data rates to the radio. I'm guessing it's a >> blown ethernet port on the board. Ordering a replacement today, but >> wondering if anyone else has ran into this issue before? > ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] RB411AH Ethernet Issues
I have a RB411AH up on a tower acting as a 2.4 AP. This morning i lost contact with the radio, but there was still power to the unit and the switch showed it was connected. Rebooted the RB, and i was able to access it again, but it was very slow. Decided to upgrade the software and copying the file locally took forever, very slow tranfer. Replaced the PoE and the ethernet surge, as well as the ethernet patch cables. Same problem, very slow data rates to the radio. I'm guessing it's a blown ethernet port on the board. Ordering a replacement today, but wondering if anyone else has ran into this issue before? -- ---- Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Motorola Canopy List
Lol, yeah, i see that. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 3/3/2010 4:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > I warn you now it is very chatty in both respects =) > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > continue that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: >> Thanks Josh. >> >> >> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >> >> On 3/3/2010 3:44 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> Best bet would be >>> >>> motor...@afmug.com >>> >>> Just email motorola-subscr...@afmug.com to subscribe >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>> continue that counts.” >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: >>>> Is there still a motorola canopy list out there? I know Part-15 used to >>>> have one, but i thought there were more. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>>> ___ >>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>> >>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>> RouterOS >>>> >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS >> > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Motorola Canopy List
Thanks Josh. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 3/3/2010 3:44 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Best bet would be > > motor...@afmug.com > > Just email motorola-subscr...@afmug.com to subscribe > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > continue that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: >> Is there still a motorola canopy list out there? I know Part-15 used to >> have one, but i thought there were more. >> >> -- >> >> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS >> > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] Motorola Canopy List
Is there still a motorola canopy list out there? I know Part-15 used to have one, but i thought there were more. -- Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Alternate RouterOS download site
thank you! Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 2/24/2010 12:49 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > http://www.butchevans.com/MT_Software/ > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > continue that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: >> Can't get to Mikrotik's site to download the latest RouterOS software. >> Doesn't Butch have a mirror site for the latest software releases? >> >> -- >> >> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS >> > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] Alternate RouterOS download site
Can't get to Mikrotik's site to download the latest RouterOS software. Doesn't Butch have a mirror site for the latest software releases? -- ---- Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik VPN with Active Directory Integration
Wow, very easy to setup. Took me about 10 mins and i'm authenticating to AD using the MT VPN. Perfect. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 2/16/2010 4:55 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: > Lol, i just found that as well. > > ---- ---- > Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP > http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com > > On 2/16/2010 4:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> That's it! IAS! >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Authentication_Service >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue that counts.” >> --- Winston Churchill >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Antonio Sanchez >> wrote: >>> Microsoft has a Radius Server integrated with active directory. It is >>> called IAS and can be configured from domain controller. >>> >>> Enviado usando Lite eMail de Vodafone. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> >>> From: "Chris Gotstein" >>> Sent: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:34:22 +0100 >>> To: "Mikrotik discussions" >>> Received: 16-Feb-2010 23:34:44 +0100 >>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik VPN with Active Directory Integration >>> >>> That's kind of what i figured. Thanks. >>> >>> >>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>> >>> On 2/16/2010 4:31 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>> I don't believe AD speaks any language other then "busted LDAP". >>>> Microsoft might have something along the lines of a radius server, >>>> which of course could authenticate through AD. >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>> continue that counts.” >>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: >>>>> I'm looking to setup a MT router for going VPN connections. Is there >>>>> any way to pass authentication from the MT to an Active Directory domain >>>>> controller? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>>>> ___ >>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>> >>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>> RouterOS >>>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>> >>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>> RouterOS >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS >>> >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik VPN with Active Directory Integration
Lol, i just found that as well. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 2/16/2010 4:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > That's it! IAS! > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Authentication_Service > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > continue that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Antonio Sanchez wrote: >> Microsoft has a Radius Server integrated with active directory. It is called >> IAS and can be configured from domain controller. >> >> Enviado usando Lite eMail de Vodafone. >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: "Chris Gotstein" >> Sent: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:34:22 +0100 >> To: "Mikrotik discussions" >> Received: 16-Feb-2010 23:34:44 +0100 >> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik VPN with Active Directory Integration >> >> That's kind of what i figured. Thanks. >> >> >> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >> >> On 2/16/2010 4:31 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> I don't believe AD speaks any language other then "busted LDAP". >>> Microsoft might have something along the lines of a radius server, >>> which of course could authenticate through AD. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>> continue that counts.” >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: >>>> I'm looking to setup a MT router for going VPN connections. Is there >>>> any way to pass authentication from the MT to an Active Directory domain >>>> controller? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>>> ___ >>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>> >>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>> RouterOS >>>> >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS >> >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik VPN with Active Directory Integration
That's kind of what i figured. Thanks. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 2/16/2010 4:31 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > I don't believe AD speaks any language other then "busted LDAP". > Microsoft might have something along the lines of a radius server, > which of course could authenticate through AD. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > continue that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: >> I'm looking to setup a MT router for going VPN connections. Is there >> any way to pass authentication from the MT to an Active Directory domain >> controller? >> >> -- >> >> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS >> > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] Mikrotik VPN with Active Directory Integration
I'm looking to setup a MT router for going VPN connections. Is there any way to pass authentication from the MT to an Active Directory domain controller? -- Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] MT AP with Tranzeo CPE 5.8Ghz
As a followup to this, i noticed that the MT wants to start scanning channels at 5175Mhz. The tranzeo client does start looking for channels till 5275. I believe the tranzeo unit is correct and the MT is running out US specs for the 5Ghz ranges allowed. I have set the MT to use regulatory domain and choose United States, but that doesn't seem to have any affect on the frequencies available. Seems like a MT bug. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 2/8/2010 2:49 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: > I pickup a RB411 with XR5 card in it and i'm trying to get it working > with our tranzeo clients (TR-5a, SL5). Problem seems to be with DFS set > to radar detect on the MT. When this is enabled, the tranzeo client > will not connect. If i set DFS to none, then the tranzeo will connect. > I'm running 4.5 on the MT. Anyone else having this issue with DFS? > ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] MT AP with Tranzeo CPE 5.8Ghz
I pickup a RB411 with XR5 card in it and i'm trying to get it working with our tranzeo clients (TR-5a, SL5). Problem seems to be with DFS set to radar detect on the MT. When this is enabled, the tranzeo client will not connect. If i set DFS to none, then the tranzeo will connect. I'm running 4.5 on the MT. Anyone else having this issue with DFS? -- ---- Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik VPN Hardware
Thanks for the info. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 2/4/2010 1:14 PM, Hilton J Ralphs wrote: > I'm afraid I don't but at HQ there must be at least 30 users. All sites have > 4mb DSL connections with 512kb upload. > ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik VPN Hardware
Do you know about how much bandwidth you are pushing through each VPN? Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 2/4/2010 1:04 PM, Hilton J Ralphs wrote: > I have a client with 4 remote sites connecting via L2TP. Across the tunnels I > run POP3 mail, RDP sessions to terminal server including printing back to > local printers and file sharing. www breakout is at each site. HQ is RB433AH, > others are RB433. > > No hassles so far. > > -- > Regards > Hilton J Ralphs > Think Technologies > > -----Original Message- > From: Chris Gotstein > Sent: 04 February 2010 20:59 > To: Mikrotik discussions > Subject: [Mikrotik] Mikrotik VPN Hardware > > > I have a client looking to setup VPN connections between 6 remote > offices and their main facility. The main facility currently has a > RB433AH router. Will this router be able to handle the load of > terminating 6 remote VPN sessions and handling traffic? The remote > locations have connections ranging from 3mb-6mb. For the remote > locations, will RB433 work, or should i go with RB433AH at each remote > location? Thanks. > > -- > > Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP > http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS > > > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] Mikrotik VPN Hardware
I have a client looking to setup VPN connections between 6 remote offices and their main facility. The main facility currently has a RB433AH router. Will this router be able to handle the load of terminating 6 remote VPN sessions and handling traffic? The remote locations have connections ranging from 3mb-6mb. For the remote locations, will RB433 work, or should i go with RB433AH at each remote location? Thanks. -- Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] MT 5.8 AP and Tranzeo CPE
Thanks for all the feedback. I'm going to order up the parts and give it a try. (on the bench first). Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 1/29/2010 3:53 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > I actually just helped a client who has this same setup. It is working > for him. Let me know if you run into any issues. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -Original Message- > From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com > [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris > Gotstein > Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 3:57 PM > To: Mikrotik discussions > Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] MT 5.8 AP and Tranzeo CPE > > I'm currently running 10Mhz with 10Mhz spacing on the the tranzeo AP and > CPEs. Hoping a MT AP would support the same setup with an XR5 radio. > > > Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP > http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com > > On 1/29/2010 2:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> Using a rb153 but unsure of the wireless card - Engenius or >> Compex/Routerboard I bet - I had a Tranzeo CPE on 20mhz. This Tranzeo >> didn't support 10mhz. Worked 99.99% for a couple of years. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >> --- Albert Einstein >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Chris Gotstein > wrote: >> >>> Anyone have experience using a MT AP with 802.11a card connecting to >>> Tranzeo TR-5x or TR-SL5 CPE radios? I'm curious if the MT supports > the >>> same channel widths as Tranzeo, ie 20Mhz, 10Mhz-10Mhz spacing, >>> 10Mhz-5Mhz spacing. I would probably use a RB411AH with XR5 radio. >>> Thanks. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>> RouterOS >>> >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: > <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100129/fb299 > 1b6/attachment.html> >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik > RouterOS > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik > RouterOS > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] MT 5.8 AP and Tranzeo CPE
Great, thanks for the info. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 1/29/2010 3:07 PM, Terri Kelley wrote: > Tiks will run 5ghz, turbo, 10mhz and 5mhz. > > Terri Kelley > Network Engineer > Farm to Market Broadband > > > > > On Jan 29, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: > >> Plenty of Tranzeo's, but we've never gotten into 5.8 with MT. For the >> most part we've been very happy with the Tranzeo APs, but with more load >> we are starting to see problems. We've had very good success with MT on >> the 2.4 side, so i'm hoping it will work just as well on the 5.8 side. >> >> >> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >> >> On 1/29/2010 3:01 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> Sorry - I assumed you'd have a spare AP and Tranzeo. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>> --- Albert Einstein >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: >>> >>>> Of course, but i don't want to buy the hardware if I know it definitely >>>> won't work. >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>>> >>>> On 1/29/2010 2:58 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>> Lab. Strongly suggest. >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>>>> --- Albert Einstein >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Chris Gotstein >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm currently running 10Mhz with 10Mhz spacing on the the tranzeo AP and >>>>>> CPEs. Hoping a MT AP would support the same setup with an XR5 radio. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/29/2010 2:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>> Using a rb153 but unsure of the wireless card - Engenius or >>>>>>> Compex/Routerboard I bet - I had a Tranzeo CPE on 20mhz. This Tranzeo >>>>>>> didn't support 10mhz. Worked 99.99% for a couple of years. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>>>>>> --- Albert Einstein >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Chris Gotstein >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyone have experience using a MT AP with 802.11a card connecting to >>>>>>>> Tranzeo TR-5x or TR-SL5 CPE radios? I'm curious if the MT supports >>>> the >>>>>>>> same channel widths as Tranzeo, ie 20Mhz, 10Mhz-10Mhz spacing, >>>>>>>> 10Mhz-5Mhz spacing. I would probably use a RB411AH with XR5 radio. >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list &
Re: [Mikrotik] MT 5.8 AP and Tranzeo CPE
Plenty of Tranzeo's, but we've never gotten into 5.8 with MT. For the most part we've been very happy with the Tranzeo APs, but with more load we are starting to see problems. We've had very good success with MT on the 2.4 side, so i'm hoping it will work just as well on the 5.8 side. ---- Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 1/29/2010 3:01 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Sorry - I assumed you'd have a spare AP and Tranzeo. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > --- Albert Einstein > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: > >> Of course, but i don't want to buy the hardware if I know it definitely >> won't work. >> >> >> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >> >> On 1/29/2010 2:58 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> Lab. Strongly suggest. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>> --- Albert Einstein >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Chris Gotstein >> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm currently running 10Mhz with 10Mhz spacing on the the tranzeo AP and >>>> CPEs. Hoping a MT AP would support the same setup with an XR5 radio. >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>>> >>>> On 1/29/2010 2:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>> Using a rb153 but unsure of the wireless card - Engenius or >>>>> Compex/Routerboard I bet - I had a Tranzeo CPE on 20mhz. This Tranzeo >>>>> didn't support 10mhz. Worked 99.99% for a couple of years. >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>>>> --- Albert Einstein >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Chris Gotstein >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Anyone have experience using a MT AP with 802.11a card connecting to >>>>>> Tranzeo TR-5x or TR-SL5 CPE radios? I'm curious if the MT supports >> the >>>>>> same channel widths as Tranzeo, ie 20Mhz, 10Mhz-10Mhz spacing, >>>>>> 10Mhz-5Mhz spacing. I would probably use a RB411AH with XR5 radio. >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>>>> RouterOS >>>>>> >>>>> -- next part -- >>>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> URL: < >>>> >> http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100129/fb2991b6/attachment.html >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>>> >>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>> RouterOS >>>> ___ >>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/m
Re: [Mikrotik] MT 5.8 AP and Tranzeo CPE
Of course, but i don't want to buy the hardware if I know it definitely won't work. ---- Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 1/29/2010 2:58 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Lab. Strongly suggest. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > --- Albert Einstein > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: > >> I'm currently running 10Mhz with 10Mhz spacing on the the tranzeo AP and >> CPEs. Hoping a MT AP would support the same setup with an XR5 radio. >> >> >> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >> >> On 1/29/2010 2:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> Using a rb153 but unsure of the wireless card - Engenius or >>> Compex/Routerboard I bet - I had a Tranzeo CPE on 20mhz. This Tranzeo >>> didn't support 10mhz. Worked 99.99% for a couple of years. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." >>> --- Albert Einstein >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Chris Gotstein >> wrote: >>> >>>> Anyone have experience using a MT AP with 802.11a card connecting to >>>> Tranzeo TR-5x or TR-SL5 CPE radios? I'm curious if the MT supports the >>>> same channel widths as Tranzeo, ie 20Mhz, 10Mhz-10Mhz spacing, >>>> 10Mhz-5Mhz spacing. I would probably use a RB411AH with XR5 radio. >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >>>> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >>>> ___ >>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>> >>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>>> RouterOS >>>> >>> -- next part -- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >> http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100129/fb2991b6/attachment.html >>> >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >> RouterOS >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >> RouterOS >> > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100129/67bdaab1/attachment.html> > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] MT 5.8 AP and Tranzeo CPE
I'm currently running 10Mhz with 10Mhz spacing on the the tranzeo AP and CPEs. Hoping a MT AP would support the same setup with an XR5 radio. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 1/29/2010 2:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Using a rb153 but unsure of the wireless card - Engenius or > Compex/Routerboard I bet - I had a Tranzeo CPE on 20mhz. This Tranzeo > didn't support 10mhz. Worked 99.99% for a couple of years. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > --- Albert Einstein > > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: > >> Anyone have experience using a MT AP with 802.11a card connecting to >> Tranzeo TR-5x or TR-SL5 CPE radios? I'm curious if the MT supports the >> same channel widths as Tranzeo, ie 20Mhz, 10Mhz-10Mhz spacing, >> 10Mhz-5Mhz spacing. I would probably use a RB411AH with XR5 radio. >> Thanks. >> >> -- >> >> Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP >> http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >> RouterOS >> > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100129/fb2991b6/attachment.html> > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] MT 5.8 AP and Tranzeo CPE
Anyone have experience using a MT AP with 802.11a card connecting to Tranzeo TR-5x or TR-SL5 CPE radios? I'm curious if the MT supports the same channel widths as Tranzeo, ie 20Mhz, 10Mhz-10Mhz spacing, 10Mhz-5Mhz spacing. I would probably use a RB411AH with XR5 radio. Thanks. -- Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] XR9 cards?
I would be very careful offering VoIP on Non LOS (900 Mhz) service. You will get very choppy performance due to the retransmits that are inherent in a non-line of site system. The only nlos system i've seen that handles voice fairly well is Canopy, and that has a lot to do with the sync they use. Measuring MOS like Josh suggested is a good start to see of the link will be able to handle a voice connection. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 1/27/2010 7:02 PM, Jayson Baker wrote: > Thanks for the input! > > Didn't actually leave it installed... have to get someone to sink a pole in > the ground at one end first. I'll let y'all know how the throughput looks. > > It's for a government VoIP application, so I hope it's reliable enough for > VoIP. > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:36 PM, RickG wrote: > >> I agree. When I put in my first XR9, I was taken a bit back by the low >> signal level but they've been rock solid with multi-megabit throughput. >> It's >> definitely resilient -RickG >> >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >> >>> Normal for pine trees yes. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Chuck Hogg >>> Shelby Broadband >>> 502-722-9292 >>> ch...@shelbybb.com >>> http://www.shelbybb.com >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com >>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:15 PM >>> To: Mikrotik discussions >>> Subject: [Mikrotik] XR9 cards? >>> >>> We installed a link today, it's about 2000' through some pine trees, >>> with a >>> little bit of a small hill in the way. Using XR9 cards on both ends, >>> and >>> 17dBi yagi antennas (M2 I think?). >>> Only seeing about -75 to -80 on both ends. Is this normal? I would >>> have >>> expected much better signal, going only that short of a distance. >>> >>> I left all settings on the MT router default, as in tx-power is default, >>> and >>> antenna is port a, etc. Should a different power level be put in? >>> >>> Thanks for your help >>> -- next part -- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100126/8f7ec >>> 8c6/attachment.html< >> http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100126/8f7ec%0A8c6/attachment.html >>> >>>> >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>> RouterOS >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >>> RouterOS >>> >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100127/42e3dd4a/attachment.html >>> >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> >> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik >> RouterOS >> > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20100127/9543fa2d/attachment.html> > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > > Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] [SPAM] - Re: WDS - Found word(s) list error in the Text body
1) under load. If I have a single peer, then my throughput is 1/2. With 3 peers, 1/8th. 3) WDS doesn't need the MAC address to route the RF traffic, so it is transparent, if it is WDS-AP to WDS-AP. WDS is a poorly designed hack that sort of works for many cases. But it has many tradeoffs, the key one being throughout. Backhaul modes and meshing protocols add smarts to the routing of the traffic, and that is why they generally are transparent and fast. -Original Message- From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:44 AM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: [Mikrotik] Strange DUDE problem - Bayesian Filter detected spam Think of it like a HUB. All ports (APs) send and receive the same traffic. ryan On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: WDS cuts bandwidth in half because it "syncs" with the AP. Not sure is ap wds and station wds act the same though. On 12/2/09, Chris Gotstein wrote: I keep hearing that it cuts your bandwidth in half on the AP side. Seems everyone (vendors) i talk to tells me to stay away from it. Robert Andrews wrote: But the ends do justify the means... WDS is how wireless should have worked in the first place..Anyone have a reason that it wasn't done this way in the first place? On 12/01/2009 10:30 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Yesh. I just went through this a few weeks ago; all remotely. The hassle is that when you switch the Tranzeo to AP mode, you need to get into it again to enter the MAC address of the "partner". But if you then switch the MT into client mode, it will let you get back into the Tranzeo. Then finish up the MAC address rigmarole. Finally, go back to the MT and switch it to WDS as previously described. Note that you may have to "hunt" for the SSID on the Tranzeo if it's never been an AP before. Bill Prince Skyline Broadband Service (a division of Coastal Sierra) 650-917-9279 Ryan Spott wrote: You can... if you are careful. :) Do the tranzeo first, and then hope everything connects when do you setup the Mtik. :) ryan On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Aww damn I can't do it remotely can I? :( On 12/2/09, Robert Andrews wrote: In WDS (not extended proprietary WDS like some vendors have), BOTH devices are in AP mode. That's why you don't see WDS on the tranzeo till you switch it to AP. Both devices will get the mac address of the other radio. On 12/01/2009 08:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: MT AP and Tranzeo CPE - reverse that. I have WDS on my AP already. On 12/1/09, Ryan Spott wrote: On the Tranzeo: 1. Wireless Settings -> Wireless Mode: Access Point 2. Apply 3. WDS (this is now visible) 4. Enter AP MAC Address 1 (this would be the MAC address of the Mikrotik ie: 006300F6) 5. Apply On the Mikrotik (no laughing all you CLI junkies, I can kick butt on a Cisco... just not an Mtik) 1. Interface 2. Click the Plus button and choose WDS 3. Under the WDS tab of the window that pops up choose the master interface appropriately. 4. Under the WDS tab of the window that pops up enter the MAC address of the Tranzeo in 00:00:00 format. 5. Add this new interface to the bridge group that your other interface is in. That should be it. ryan On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: TR6 I think. I know it has an external 24dbi grid. On 12/1/09, D. Ryan Spott wrote: What model Tranzeo are you running? Ryan On Dec 1, 2009, at 5:04 PM, Josh Luthman< j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: How can I do WDS? Where is the option? On 12/1/09, Ryan Spott wrote: You can do WDS mode. I have this running on
Re: [Mikrotik] Strange DUDE problem
d to Mikrotik RouterOS -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20091201/0a7a651e/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20091201/d6610b98/attachment.html> ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Wireless security....
We started out use WPA2 AES encryption along with MAC address authentication for all our clients. Over the years, I just found to many issues with using WPA between different vendors. So we've ditched doing any encryption. We rely on MAC authentication and we also switched over to using 10Mhz channels. We do DHCP for all our end users, and hand out static IPs via dhcp to those with different speed packages. I would like to someday start using RADIUS to do some authentication, but our current billing program makes it a chore to setup and use. Chris Gotstein, Sr Network Engineer, UP Logon/Computer Connection UP http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com Butch Evans wrote: > What is your preferred method for securing the wireless portion of your > network access? > > There are several options available, including WEP (Wasted Effort > Protocol), WPA, WPA2, etc. for encrypting the network, but is this the > only method you use? Do you authenticate MAC addresses? Are you using > DHCP and if so, how are you managing access with that? Hotspot is > another option that can be used to control access. I'm interested to > see what methods are most common among Mikrotik users that use Mikrotik > as an AP. > ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Upgrades
I have found that with MT software, they don't always list all the changes and fixes and/or enhancements in the change log. I do agree that the 3 week waiting period is good though, usually anything real bad is found by then. I like to keep the RB's current within reason. I never like getting to far behind the releases. I try to pick 1 unit i can "test" and then if all goes well for a few days, then do the rest. Terri Kelley wrote: So then I would have a question. Often you might have performance enhancements with a newer version that you may not at that time need, but might later. Been there. Also there have been a couple of instances where upgrading from an older version was more difficult than from something more current. So is it then better to maintain a current version rather than skip versions? Ok... I might slap myself here. I have also seen where the "new" version led to problems. So maybe better to wait and let others "test" that version? Terri Kelley Network Engineer 254-697-6710 On Oct 27, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Butch Evans wrote: On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 20:48 -0400, Chuck Hogg wrote: To see if it fixes other problems that we are experiencing. We have routinely found "fixes" not posted in the changelog, This is my primary recommendation for my customers. In general, I tell people to upgrade ONLY when you are having a specific issue that is either addressed in the changelog OR if you think it is possible that your issue may be resolved. Other than that, I always recommend NEVER using a MT release that has not been out for less than 3 weeks. At 3 weeks, it's pretty close to "stable" because we always let everyone else do our "testing". :-) and we have also found new bugs too. NO WAY! :-) p.s. I like the discussion comments, they are nice conversation creations. Thank you. I enjoy seeing comments from the community at large. I have not done this a lot for my own mailing lists, but am trying to stir the pot a little now. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20091027/07058fdd/attachment.html> ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Mass Changes in RouterOS
Got it, i forget i needed to be under the access-list section when doing the find. Thanks guys. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Sam Tetherow wrote: set [find interface=OLD] interface=NEW Sam Tetherow Chris Gotstein wrote: A while back i needed to change the some settings in the access list and Butch had give me an example on how to mass change the Forwarding from Yes to No. I need to do the same thing now for the interface listed in the access list, but i can't find the line of commands he gave me to do that. Anyone know what the command is to do this? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Mass Changes in RouterOS
Not working in 3.24. Doesn't like the brackets. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Sam Tetherow wrote: set [find interface=OLD] interface=NEW Sam Tetherow Chris Gotstein wrote: A while back i needed to change the some settings in the access list and Butch had give me an example on how to mass change the Forwarding from Yes to No. I need to do the same thing now for the interface listed in the access list, but i can't find the line of commands he gave me to do that. Anyone know what the command is to do this? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Mass Changes in RouterOS
It was something like that. I'll have to play a bit. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Josh Luthman wrote: Iirc something like Set [find] forwarding=yes Use the tab key to help and test it on a vm or something first! On 6/26/09, Chris Gotstein wrote: A while back i needed to change the some settings in the access list and Butch had give me an example on how to mass change the Forwarding from Yes to No. I need to do the same thing now for the interface listed in the access list, but i can't find the line of commands he gave me to do that. Anyone know what the command is to do this? -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] Mass Changes in RouterOS
A while back i needed to change the some settings in the access list and Butch had give me an example on how to mass change the Forwarding from Yes to No. I need to do the same thing now for the interface listed in the access list, but i can't find the line of commands he gave me to do that. Anyone know what the command is to do this? -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Tx/Rx Rate
Guess there's the flip side to using short though on the PtP's, but on
my tranzeo gear, i can only lock to long.
Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com
Josh Luthman wrote:
For PtP links I can definitely agree you want to lock it in place.
For client to AP in a perfect world we should all spend the time to figure
out what is the best for that link. As was said, I am far from perfect
leaving it change on demand.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Chris Gotstein wrote:
Maybe worth locking it to long for PtP links and leaving it auto for Client
to AP?
Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com
Josh Luthman wrote:
Every customer I have left it figure out. The disadvantage is that it
goes
up and down based on usage. This is bad for VoIP.
However, I have had no complaints.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Chris Gotstein
wrote:
I've been setting it to auto, does it matter a whole lot 1 way or the
other? Are others forcing the preamble?
Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com
Josh Luthman wrote:
For some reason it doesn't actually use the "I'm Feeling Lucky" button
=/
The first link reads:
The 18 byte ("long preamble") preamble is used to signal "here is a
train
of
data coming" to the receiver. The 802.11b standard gives an option of
reducing the size of the PLCP preamble to 9 bytes *("short preamble"),
this
significantly increases the throughput performance at higher data
rates*.
One downside to the PLCP is that the PLCP preamble and header is always
transmitted at 1Mbps, regardless of the transmission rate for the rest
of
the data. This means that the transfer time is constant at 192 Usec
(microseconds) for the PLCP with long preamble. The short preamble
version
does a little better, transmitting the shorter preamble at 1Mbps and the
header at 2Mbps, shortening the transmit time to 96 Usec.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Chris Gotstein
wrote:
Ouch, that wasn't so nice!
Yes, i do know how to use google, but was hoping someone would just
give
me
a quick explanation, as in real world experience.
Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com
Josh Luthman wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/lf75qw
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Chris Gotstein
wrote:
What is the difference between short and long preamble?
Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com
Steve Barnes wrote:
Thanks a bunch. That means those are ones that my installers didn't
setup
right GREAT.
Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
-Original Message-
From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com
[mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Andrews
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:22 AM
To: Mikrotik discussions
Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Tx/Rx Rate
Short Preamble
Steve Barnes wrote:
I have updated several of my towers to 3.24 and started noticing on
the
Registration Tab in the Tx/Rx Rate column I have a most that say
11Mbps/11Mbps. But I have a few that will say 11Mbps-SP/11Mbps-SP.
What
does the SP signify?
Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi
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Re: [Mikrotik] Tx/Rx Rate
Maybe worth locking it to long for PtP links and leaving it auto for
Client to AP?
Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com
Josh Luthman wrote:
Every customer I have left it figure out. The disadvantage is that it goes
up and down based on usage. This is bad for VoIP.
However, I have had no complaints.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Chris Gotstein wrote:
I've been setting it to auto, does it matter a whole lot 1 way or the
other? Are others forcing the preamble?
Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com
Josh Luthman wrote:
For some reason it doesn't actually use the "I'm Feeling Lucky" button =/
The first link reads:
The 18 byte ("long preamble") preamble is used to signal "here is a train
of
data coming" to the receiver. The 802.11b standard gives an option of
reducing the size of the PLCP preamble to 9 bytes *("short preamble"),
this
significantly increases the throughput performance at higher data rates*.
One downside to the PLCP is that the PLCP preamble and header is always
transmitted at 1Mbps, regardless of the transmission rate for the rest of
the data. This means that the transfer time is constant at 192 Usec
(microseconds) for the PLCP with long preamble. The short preamble version
does a little better, transmitting the shorter preamble at 1Mbps and the
header at 2Mbps, shortening the transmit time to 96 Usec.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Chris Gotstein
wrote:
Ouch, that wasn't so nice!
Yes, i do know how to use google, but was hoping someone would just give
me
a quick explanation, as in real world experience.
Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com
Josh Luthman wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/lf75qw
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Chris Gotstein
wrote:
What is the difference between short and long preamble?
Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com
Steve Barnes wrote:
Thanks a bunch. That means those are ones that my installers didn't
setup
right GREAT.
Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
-Original Message-
From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com
[mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Andrews
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:22 AM
To: Mikrotik discussions
Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Tx/Rx Rate
Short Preamble
Steve Barnes wrote:
I have updated several of my towers to 3.24 and started noticing on
the
Registration Tab in the Tx/Rx Rate column I have a most that say
11Mbps/11Mbps. But I have a few that will say 11Mbps-SP/11Mbps-SP.
What
does the SP signify?
Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi
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I've been setting it to auto, does it matter a whole lot 1 way or the
other? Are others forcing the preamble?
Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com
Josh Luthman wrote:
For some reason it doesn't actually use the "I'm Feeling Lucky" button =/
The first link reads:
The 18 byte ("long preamble") preamble is used to signal "here is a train of
data coming" to the receiver. The 802.11b standard gives an option of
reducing the size of the PLCP preamble to 9 bytes *("short preamble"), this
significantly increases the throughput performance at higher data rates*.
One downside to the PLCP is that the PLCP preamble and header is always
transmitted at 1Mbps, regardless of the transmission rate for the rest of
the data. This means that the transfer time is constant at 192 Usec
(microseconds) for the PLCP with long preamble. The short preamble version
does a little better, transmitting the shorter preamble at 1Mbps and the
header at 2Mbps, shortening the transmit time to 96 Usec.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Chris Gotstein wrote:
Ouch, that wasn't so nice!
Yes, i do know how to use google, but was hoping someone would just give me
a quick explanation, as in real world experience.
Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com
Josh Luthman wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/lf75qw
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Chris Gotstein
wrote:
What is the difference between short and long preamble?
Chris Gotstein
Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
ch...@uplogon.com
Steve Barnes wrote:
Thanks a bunch. That means those are ones that my installers didn't
setup
right GREAT.
Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
-Original Message-
From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com
[mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Andrews
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:22 AM
To: Mikrotik discussions
Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Tx/Rx Rate
Short Preamble
Steve Barnes wrote:
I have updated several of my towers to 3.24 and started noticing on the
Registration Tab in the Tx/Rx Rate column I have a most that say
11Mbps/11Mbps. But I have a few that will say 11Mbps-SP/11Mbps-SP.
What
does the SP signify?
Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi
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Re: [Mikrotik] Tx/Rx Rate
Ouch, that wasn't so nice! Yes, i do know how to use google, but was hoping someone would just give me a quick explanation, as in real world experience. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Josh Luthman wrote: http://tinyurl.com/lf75qw Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Chris Gotstein wrote: What is the difference between short and long preamble? Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Steve Barnes wrote: Thanks a bunch. That means those are ones that my installers didn't setup right GREAT. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:22 AM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Tx/Rx Rate Short Preamble Steve Barnes wrote: I have updated several of my towers to 3.24 and started noticing on the Registration Tab in the Tx/Rx Rate column I have a most that say 11Mbps/11Mbps. But I have a few that will say 11Mbps-SP/11Mbps-SP. What does the SP signify? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20090618/7998eca6/attachment.html> ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Tx/Rx Rate
What is the difference between short and long preamble? Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Steve Barnes wrote: Thanks a bunch. That means those are ones that my installers didn't setup right GREAT. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:22 AM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Tx/Rx Rate Short Preamble Steve Barnes wrote: I have updated several of my towers to 3.24 and started noticing on the Registration Tab in the Tx/Rx Rate column I have a most that say 11Mbps/11Mbps. But I have a few that will say 11Mbps-SP/11Mbps-SP. What does the SP signify? Steve Barnes RC-WiFi ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Last IP
After i wrote that, i figured you already knew it! Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com D. Ryan Spott wrote: Yeah. I need to do this in an automated fashion and get text output. ryan Chris Gotstein wrote: it's easy to do in winbox. Just add the last ip column. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com D. Ryan Spott wrote: How do I get the "Last IP" for a registered client from the CLI? "interface wireless registration-table print" gives me no joy. suggestions? ryan ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Tranzeo - Mikrotik versions
it's easy to do in winbox. Just add the last ip column. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com D. Ryan Spott wrote: How do I get the "Last IP" for a registered client from the CLI? "interface wireless registration-table print" gives me no joy. suggestions? ryan ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] 5.8GHz Grids
Something that short you may want to look at using a Tranzeo TR-SL5-16f radio. The new firmware allows it to run in AP and PtP mode. Plus they just dropped the prices on them. I have one setup and it works great at a short distance. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Aaron, Network Administrator, Great Lakes Internet wrote: Oops, wrong subject. I am going to be setting up a very short range (think 300ft) 5.2GHz link. Do you think I would have any problem using a 5.8GHz grid for this purpose? I have several 27dBi grids in stock and I want to save some of the install cost. These are the grids I have: http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=10041 Thanks. --- Aaron, MCP, Network+, A+ Network Administrator suppo...@greatlakes.net Great Lakes Internet, Inc 112 N. Howard Croswell, MI 48422 (810) 679-3395 MI Toll-Free (877) 558-8324 ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Tranzeo - Mikrotik versions
problem seems to be with WPA/AES and/or WPA2 Robert Andrews wrote: that's a rog... Chris Gotstein wrote: wpa tkip? Robert Andrews wrote: No we do wpa, not wpa2 either... just wpa. Chris Gotstein wrote: you doing AES though?? Robert Andrews wrote: MT and tranzeo with WPA work great here.. Solid as a rock, distances to 18 miles through heavy city noise/urban... Robert Chris Gotstein wrote: There are issues with 4.0.2 if you are running WPA/AES on the Tranzeo devices. Otherwise, i've been running 3.24 and 4.0.2 without encryption without any problems. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com steve wrote: Ok I would like some definite answers on what works and what doesn't. I have 3 towers that I am dumping all the old StarOS Wrap boards off of and going to RB411a. The only thing that attaches to these AP's is Tranzeo's. I know that MT 3.17 works ok with Tranzeo's What about 3.24? What Tranzeo firmware is working. Currently I have all 3.6.7 and would like to go to 4.0.2 for the Config upload download ability but read some posts that you start to get the disassociate- reassociate issues with that version. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Tranzeo - Mikrotik versions
wpa tkip? Robert Andrews wrote: No we do wpa, not wpa2 either... just wpa. Chris Gotstein wrote: you doing AES though?? Robert Andrews wrote: MT and tranzeo with WPA work great here.. Solid as a rock, distances to 18 miles through heavy city noise/urban... Robert Chris Gotstein wrote: There are issues with 4.0.2 if you are running WPA/AES on the Tranzeo devices. Otherwise, i've been running 3.24 and 4.0.2 without encryption without any problems. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com steve wrote: Ok I would like some definite answers on what works and what doesn't. I have 3 towers that I am dumping all the old StarOS Wrap boards off of and going to RB411a. The only thing that attaches to these AP's is Tranzeo's. I know that MT 3.17 works ok with Tranzeo's What about 3.24? What Tranzeo firmware is working. Currently I have all 3.6.7 and would like to go to 4.0.2 for the Config upload download ability but read some posts that you start to get the disassociate- reassociate issues with that version. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Tranzeo - Mikrotik versions
you doing AES though?? Robert Andrews wrote: MT and tranzeo with WPA work great here.. Solid as a rock, distances to 18 miles through heavy city noise/urban... Robert Chris Gotstein wrote: There are issues with 4.0.2 if you are running WPA/AES on the Tranzeo devices. Otherwise, i've been running 3.24 and 4.0.2 without encryption without any problems. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com steve wrote: Ok I would like some definite answers on what works and what doesn't. I have 3 towers that I am dumping all the old StarOS Wrap boards off of and going to RB411a. The only thing that attaches to these AP's is Tranzeo's. I know that MT 3.17 works ok with Tranzeo's What about 3.24? What Tranzeo firmware is working. Currently I have all 3.6.7 and would like to go to 4.0.2 for the Config upload download ability but read some posts that you start to get the disassociate- reassociate issues with that version. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Tranzeo - Mikrotik versions
There are issues with 4.0.2 if you are running WPA/AES on the Tranzeo devices. Otherwise, i've been running 3.24 and 4.0.2 without encryption without any problems. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com steve wrote: Ok I would like some definite answers on what works and what doesn't. I have 3 towers that I am dumping all the old StarOS Wrap boards off of and going to RB411a. The only thing that attaches to these AP's is Tranzeo's. I know that MT 3.17 works ok with Tranzeo's What about 3.24? What Tranzeo firmware is working. Currently I have all 3.6.7 and would like to go to 4.0.2 for the Config upload download ability but read some posts that you start to get the disassociate- reassociate issues with that version. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Simply Queues
Would i be better off just moving to a queue tree setup? Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Josh Luthman wrote: If your matching IPs are 192.168.0.0/24 that queue relates to the entire subnet. PCQ is a queue type, you can still look in simple queues for where your work needs to be done - just set it to pcq type. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Sam Tetherow wrote: The entire subnet will be limited to that rate. If you want to set it on each IP check out PCQ queues. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Chris Gotstein wrote: This is my first time dealing with queues. When setting up simple queues, i set the download at 1500k and upload at 384k for each subnet. Now does this mean that each customer (ip address) will get this rate, or is it an aggregate for the whole subnet? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20090604/b017fe01/attachment.html> ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] Simply Queues
This is my first time dealing with queues. When setting up simple queues, i set the download at 1500k and upload at 384k for each subnet. Now does this mean that each customer (ip address) will get this rate, or is it an aggregate for the whole subnet? -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Loss of connectivity
POE would be the easiest to change first, then the board. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Josh Luthman wrote: It happened again and I was able to confirm that the AP on this unit is working just fine, I can ping it from a station. Couldn't telnet or mac-telnet (telnet because of hotspot I think, mac-telnet just kicked me out instantly after I entered my login - possibly a problem with memory/board?). Any ideas outside of new 532 and poe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Robert Haas wrote: Seemed like a good idea at the time! :p -Original Message- From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 5:38 PM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Loss of connectivity Can't imagine why one would pull that plug... On 5/27/09, Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 16:17 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: Lest not forget the dummy who looked at the 'air' pressure gauge reading 15lbs and decided it was a good idea to pull the 'air' line off while standing under it. :-/ THAT is a fond memory. lol. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.42/2137 - Release Date: 05/27/09 07:50:00 ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20090602/14385d29/attachment.html> ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Trango and MT Queues
No. 1 tower as 6 APs which feed into the PC running RouterOS. Each AP has it's own ethernet port and subnet. There are 2 other remote towers that get feed through one of the APs on the tower, and there is a separate subnet for each of those towers. Josh Luthman wrote: So you have an MT at each tower, 1 port per AP? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote: The network is already fully routed. Each AP is on it's own subnet. Josh Luthman wrote: Sam's suggestion is good - put layer 3 switch rb493 at each tower and then traffic shape that way. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Sam Tetherow wrote: A solution would be transparent traffic shaping bridges scattered about. MT works for this quite well and wouldn't require you to switch to routing but you would need to identify where best to place the traffic shaping boxes in your network. I haven't used Trangos for CPEs so I haven't played with CIR/MIR but it doesn't seem as flexible as an MT. I use the burst-thresholds quite a bit and also do traffic prioritization in my network. If you don't then I agree with Butch, if it's working using just CIR/MIR then no reason to add the extra complication of an MT box. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Aaron, Network Administrator, Great Lakes Internet wrote: We have a similar setup except we don't use MT for bandwidth shaping. When we add new clients to the Trango AP's we set the MIR to the maximum plan we offer 1024/768 and we set the CIR to the lowest plan we offer 256/128. This seems to work fairly well, for the most part the higher bandwidth customers get the bandwidth they are paying for without being able to overload the AP. Lower bandwidth customers get limited by our central bandwidth shaping device. We have over 60 clients on one Trango AP using this setup. Unfortunately I have been unable to find a good way of stopping client-to-client traffic on a switched network without a massive redesign of our existing network. Fortunately we do not have too many problems as our backhauls have enough extra bandwidth to compensate for any extra load client-to-client communications may place on our network. --- Aaron, MCP, Network+, A+ Network Administrator suppo...@greatlakes.net Great Lakes Internet, Inc 112 N. Howard Croswell, MI 48422 (810) 679-3395 MI Toll-Free (877) 558-8324 -Original Message- From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:33 PM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Trango and MT Queues We bought the exact same network you did. All the 900 and 5ghz trango stuff we maxed values on and did queues on the MT. Simple queues I found are easiest. For the record, this is not best. If you have two customers that don't even see the MT in their traffic (like one customer to another on the same AP or tower) they can suck up all of the AP's aggregate bandwith. On 5/26/09, Chris Gotstein wrote: We acquired a WISP last year that is running trango APs and CPEs, and using a home built PC running RouterOS 2.9.x as the main router. They are also running queues on the MT box to control traffic. The trangos have bandwidth settings on the CPE side, both MIR and CIR. Is there a reason to run both queues and CIR/MIR for this system? I don't see a way to disable the CIR/MIR on the trangos, beside just setting it to its max setting. Otherwise i could just get rid of the queues on the MT and just CIR/MIR on the Trango. Any suggestions? -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20090526/242367d7/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was
Re: [Mikrotik] Trango and MT Queues
The network is already fully routed. Each AP is on it's own subnet. Josh Luthman wrote: Sam's suggestion is good - put layer 3 switch rb493 at each tower and then traffic shape that way. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Sam Tetherow wrote: A solution would be transparent traffic shaping bridges scattered about. MT works for this quite well and wouldn't require you to switch to routing but you would need to identify where best to place the traffic shaping boxes in your network. I haven't used Trangos for CPEs so I haven't played with CIR/MIR but it doesn't seem as flexible as an MT. I use the burst-thresholds quite a bit and also do traffic prioritization in my network. If you don't then I agree with Butch, if it's working using just CIR/MIR then no reason to add the extra complication of an MT box. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Aaron, Network Administrator, Great Lakes Internet wrote: We have a similar setup except we don't use MT for bandwidth shaping. When we add new clients to the Trango AP's we set the MIR to the maximum plan we offer 1024/768 and we set the CIR to the lowest plan we offer 256/128. This seems to work fairly well, for the most part the higher bandwidth customers get the bandwidth they are paying for without being able to overload the AP. Lower bandwidth customers get limited by our central bandwidth shaping device. We have over 60 clients on one Trango AP using this setup. Unfortunately I have been unable to find a good way of stopping client-to-client traffic on a switched network without a massive redesign of our existing network. Fortunately we do not have too many problems as our backhauls have enough extra bandwidth to compensate for any extra load client-to-client communications may place on our network. --- Aaron, MCP, Network+, A+ Network Administrator suppo...@greatlakes.net Great Lakes Internet, Inc 112 N. Howard Croswell, MI 48422 (810) 679-3395 MI Toll-Free (877) 558-8324 -Original Message- From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:33 PM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Trango and MT Queues We bought the exact same network you did. All the 900 and 5ghz trango stuff we maxed values on and did queues on the MT. Simple queues I found are easiest. For the record, this is not best. If you have two customers that don't even see the MT in their traffic (like one customer to another on the same AP or tower) they can suck up all of the AP's aggregate bandwith. On 5/26/09, Chris Gotstein wrote: We acquired a WISP last year that is running trango APs and CPEs, and using a home built PC running RouterOS 2.9.x as the main router. They are also running queues on the MT box to control traffic. The trangos have bandwidth settings on the CPE side, both MIR and CIR. Is there a reason to run both queues and CIR/MIR for this system? I don't see a way to disable the CIR/MIR on the trangos, beside just setting it to its max setting. Otherwise i could just get rid of the queues on the MT and just CIR/MIR on the Trango. Any suggestions? -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20090526/242367d7/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20090526/a96aa03f/attachment.html> ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http:/
[Mikrotik] Trango and MT Queues
We acquired a WISP last year that is running trango APs and CPEs, and using a home built PC running RouterOS 2.9.x as the main router. They are also running queues on the MT box to control traffic. The trangos have bandwidth settings on the CPE side, both MIR and CIR. Is there a reason to run both queues and CIR/MIR for this system? I don't see a way to disable the CIR/MIR on the trangos, beside just setting it to its max setting. Otherwise i could just get rid of the queues on the MT and just CIR/MIR on the Trango. Any suggestions? -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Loss of connectivity
Replace the cable with a new cable, maybe a shielded one? Does the whole 532 lock up? Can you get to it from the wlan side? Josh Luthman wrote: I have a 532 with a 2.4ap with ether1 plugged into a Trango SU that loses it's ether1 for minutes or hours. The Trango has not lost power or association since installation. The line goes from poe of the Trango to poe of the 532. One or two times a day (some times it goes weeks before it happens again, others times two days in a row). When these outages happen I can't see the cdp of ether1, but after time it comes back. The uptime on it is something like 119 days. Anyone know why that ether1 is disappearing? -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Degrading Signals over Time
Doing the same here. Going to disable noise reduction for now to see if it helps. Carl A jeptha wrote: starting to mix in ubnt now also, so at present more tranzeos than ubnt You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Chris Gotstein wrote: Carl, Are you running all Tranzeo CPEs? I'm thinking of just disabling the noise reduction since the tranzeo's can't use it anyway. I only have 1 or 2 clients that actually support noise reduction. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Carl A jeptha wrote: I have noise reduction on and am also seeing something similar, interesting??? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Robert Andrews wrote: Do you have noise reduction on? Chris Gotstein wrote: I've got a hand-full of RB411AH's with XR2's running v3.23. Over time, i see signals from the clients degrading. I would say they lose up to 10db over the course of a week or so. Rebooting the unit or simply disabling the radio and enabling it brings the signals back to what they should be. All my clients are Tranzeo CPEs. Wondering if this is a bug in the MT software? Are my clients actually losing signal over time or is winbox just showing me inaccurate information? Anyone else seeing this? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.35/2124 - Release Date: 05/20/09 06:22:00 ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.35/2124 - Release Date: 05/20/09 06:22:00 ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Degrading Signals over Time
Please post the results. Richard Hatherill Jr. wrote: Anyone notice a decrease in signal on the newest Sl2's? I put one up this week new out of the box for what I though for sure was an easy hit. Couldn't get better than 77. I pulled out an old cpe200-15 and locked it in at 63. Could it be a bad radio? I should have opened another box and tried it. I am going to run a 1/2 mile test with a few new and old models and see what the difference comes in at. Rich Hatherill Cnywireless -Original Message- From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gotstein Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:56 PM To: Mikrotik discussions Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Degrading Signals over Time Mix of CPQs, SL2's. Pings didn't seem to help any, only rebooting the AP works. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com steve wrote: What client radios. I have that Issue with Tranzeo's but lots of traffic or logging into the radio brings them back to normal. If I run a ping from the ap it fixes it as well. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gotstein Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:10 AM To: Mikrotik discussions; mikro...@part-15.org Subject: [Mikrotik] Degrading Signals over Time I've got a hand-full of RB411AH's with XR2's running v3.23. Over time, i see signals from the clients degrading. I would say they lose up to 10db over the course of a week or so. Rebooting the unit or simply disabling the radio and enabling it brings the signals back to what they should be. All my clients are Tranzeo CPEs. Wondering if this is a bug in the MT software? Are my clients actually losing signal over time or is winbox just showing me inaccurate information? Anyone else seeing this? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Degrading Signals over Time
Carl, Are you running all Tranzeo CPEs? I'm thinking of just disabling the noise reduction since the tranzeo's can't use it anyway. I only have 1 or 2 clients that actually support noise reduction. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Carl A jeptha wrote: I have noise reduction on and am also seeing something similar, interesting??? You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Robert Andrews wrote: Do you have noise reduction on? Chris Gotstein wrote: I've got a hand-full of RB411AH's with XR2's running v3.23. Over time, i see signals from the clients degrading. I would say they lose up to 10db over the course of a week or so. Rebooting the unit or simply disabling the radio and enabling it brings the signals back to what they should be. All my clients are Tranzeo CPEs. Wondering if this is a bug in the MT software? Are my clients actually losing signal over time or is winbox just showing me inaccurate information? Anyone else seeing this? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.35/2124 - Release Date: 05/20/09 06:22:00 ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Degrading Signals over Time
Mix of CPQs, SL2's. Pings didn't seem to help any, only rebooting the AP works. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com steve wrote: What client radios. I have that Issue with Tranzeo's but lots of traffic or logging into the radio brings them back to normal. If I run a ping from the ap it fixes it as well. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gotstein Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:10 AM To: Mikrotik discussions; mikro...@part-15.org Subject: [Mikrotik] Degrading Signals over Time I've got a hand-full of RB411AH's with XR2's running v3.23. Over time, i see signals from the clients degrading. I would say they lose up to 10db over the course of a week or so. Rebooting the unit or simply disabling the radio and enabling it brings the signals back to what they should be. All my clients are Tranzeo CPEs. Wondering if this is a bug in the MT software? Are my clients actually losing signal over time or is winbox just showing me inaccurate information? Anyone else seeing this? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Degrading Signals over Time
I'll give it a shot. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Robert Andrews wrote: That's a rog... Chris Gotstein wrote: Adaptive Noise Immunity -> ap and client mode Would that cause problems? Disable it? Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Robert Andrews wrote: Do you have noise reduction on? Chris Gotstein wrote: I've got a hand-full of RB411AH's with XR2's running v3.23. Over time, i see signals from the clients degrading. I would say they lose up to 10db over the course of a week or so. Rebooting the unit or simply disabling the radio and enabling it brings the signals back to what they should be. All my clients are Tranzeo CPEs. Wondering if this is a bug in the MT software? Are my clients actually losing signal over time or is winbox just showing me inaccurate information? Anyone else seeing this? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Degrading Signals over Time
Adaptive Noise Immunity -> ap and client mode Would that cause problems? Disable it? Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Robert Andrews wrote: Do you have noise reduction on? Chris Gotstein wrote: I've got a hand-full of RB411AH's with XR2's running v3.23. Over time, i see signals from the clients degrading. I would say they lose up to 10db over the course of a week or so. Rebooting the unit or simply disabling the radio and enabling it brings the signals back to what they should be. All my clients are Tranzeo CPEs. Wondering if this is a bug in the MT software? Are my clients actually losing signal over time or is winbox just showing me inaccurate information? Anyone else seeing this? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] Degrading Signals over Time
I've got a hand-full of RB411AH's with XR2's running v3.23. Over time, i see signals from the clients degrading. I would say they lose up to 10db over the course of a week or so. Rebooting the unit or simply disabling the radio and enabling it brings the signals back to what they should be. All my clients are Tranzeo CPEs. Wondering if this is a bug in the MT software? Are my clients actually losing signal over time or is winbox just showing me inaccurate information? Anyone else seeing this? -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Channel Widths
I switched over to TKIP on the tranzeo's and the MT AP, but i'm still seeing the same problem. I go back to no encryption and things work fine. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Robert Andrews wrote: Ahhh that would be a reason for using AES and also a reason that Chris is seeing the reboots... issues with AES on card firmware... Robert Randy Cosby wrote: Just a side note. On the Mikrotiks, WPA2 with AES CCM, encryption is offloaded to the wlan card. tkip is done on the 'tik processor and will result in much higher cpu usage. Robert Andrews wrote: How about taking one AP with MT/Tranzeo and switching it over to TKIP and seeing if that solves the problem? It would be good info for anyone who runs this equip... Including me. Chris Gotstein wrote: No need that i see of, just that all the radios we have out in the field are running aes. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Robert Andrews wrote: By george I think you've got it. Is there a need to stay with AES? tkip with good keys should be just as secure... Robert Chris Gotstein wrote: Maybe that is there the problem lies. We are running AES. At this point i'm waiting to here back from Tranzeo if they found a fix. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Robert Andrews wrote: TKIP, and we are upgrading from 3.22 to 3.23, although testing showed no difference we changed the update interval to 3000 from 3600 to match the MT. We run sr2 and xr2 and KXS30SG cards.. MT has tkip unicast and group keys Robert Chris Gotstein wrote: Are you doing WPA AES or TKIP? What software version are you running on the MT? Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Robert Andrews wrote: Again, I'll mention that we are running a slew of MT AP's and CPQ's and 10mhz channels with WPA and no problems... I am NOT denying your problem, just that there may be a configuration solution that's different between our setups.There are some CPQ's that will not to 10mhz channels even with 4.0.2. We only run WPA on 10mhz channels, so maybe that is it? MT with CPQ gives our best reliablility and speed to the customer. Robert Chris Gotstein wrote: Funny you should ask. I was going to ask the same question about whether or not i should be encrypting the traffic from the AP to the customer. WPA and WPA2 have caused me nothing but problems from the get-go and i would just rather get rid of it. The encryption was in place when i started here, and coming from the business side of things and setting up in-building wifi, we always used encryption. At first it was setup to provide security between the clients, but now we are able to turn off client-to-client communication, maybe i don't need to run it anymore. What are most people doing? Maybe i should turn it off Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com D. Ryan Spott wrote: I have to ask, Why are you encrypting traffic from your AP to your customer's CPE? ryan Chris Gotstein wrote: Can't upgrade to 4.0.2 at this time. There is an issue when using WPA and MT AP. Causes the clients to drop and reboot constantly. I'm sticking with 3.6.7 till they come up with a fix. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Carl A jeptha wrote: upgrade all tranzeo cpq and sl to version 4.02 firmware. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Robert Andrews wrote: Yes... It works very well if you have Tranzeo CPE's that support it. Many CPQ's don't unless you put in a new radio... Chris Gotstein wrote: We run mostly MT AP's and Tranzeo CPE (CPQ/SL2). Is it possible to run 10mhz or 5Mhz channels with MT AP and Tranzeo CPE? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.2/2074 - Release
Re: [Mikrotik] Channel Widths
As per a MT AP, do you get better performance using TKIP vs AES? Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Butch Evans wrote: On Fri, 2009-04-24 at 10:23 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote: What's your opinion on the WPA TKIP vs WPA AES vs WPA2? I prefer TKIP because it seems to work better with a wider range of client devices. As for WPA/WPA2, I'd use WPA2 if it works with your combination of equipment choices. I do know that AES is function on the hardware, where tkip is a host processor function. It is possible that there are differences in the way AES is handled by different vendors, which may explain some of the problems when using AES with a variety of hardware combinations. ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Channel Widths
Butch, What's your opinion on the WPA TKIP vs WPA AES vs WPA2? Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 10:00 -0500, Chris Gotstein wrote: Funny you should ask. I was going to ask the same question about whether or not i should be encrypting the traffic from the AP to the There are several benefits to running WPA on your access points. Some businesses who are regulated by those that do no understand our technology (pharmacies fit this category) find some comfort in the fact that their link is encrypted. Another benefit is that it makes it more difficult for those that would steal service to do so. WPA and WPA2 have caused me nothing but problems from the get-go and i would just rather get rid of it. This is certainly a negative reality that happens when you use some clients and WPA. ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Channel Widths
No need that i see of, just that all the radios we have out in the field are running aes. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Robert Andrews wrote: By george I think you've got it. Is there a need to stay with AES? tkip with good keys should be just as secure... Robert Chris Gotstein wrote: Maybe that is there the problem lies. We are running AES. At this point i'm waiting to here back from Tranzeo if they found a fix. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Robert Andrews wrote: TKIP, and we are upgrading from 3.22 to 3.23, although testing showed no difference we changed the update interval to 3000 from 3600 to match the MT. We run sr2 and xr2 and KXS30SG cards.. MT has tkip unicast and group keys Robert Chris Gotstein wrote: Are you doing WPA AES or TKIP? What software version are you running on the MT? Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Robert Andrews wrote: Again, I'll mention that we are running a slew of MT AP's and CPQ's and 10mhz channels with WPA and no problems... I am NOT denying your problem, just that there may be a configuration solution that's different between our setups.There are some CPQ's that will not to 10mhz channels even with 4.0.2. We only run WPA on 10mhz channels, so maybe that is it? MT with CPQ gives our best reliablility and speed to the customer. Robert Chris Gotstein wrote: Funny you should ask. I was going to ask the same question about whether or not i should be encrypting the traffic from the AP to the customer. WPA and WPA2 have caused me nothing but problems from the get-go and i would just rather get rid of it. The encryption was in place when i started here, and coming from the business side of things and setting up in-building wifi, we always used encryption. At first it was setup to provide security between the clients, but now we are able to turn off client-to-client communication, maybe i don't need to run it anymore. What are most people doing? Maybe i should turn it off Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com D. Ryan Spott wrote: I have to ask, Why are you encrypting traffic from your AP to your customer's CPE? ryan Chris Gotstein wrote: Can't upgrade to 4.0.2 at this time. There is an issue when using WPA and MT AP. Causes the clients to drop and reboot constantly. I'm sticking with 3.6.7 till they come up with a fix. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Carl A jeptha wrote: upgrade all tranzeo cpq and sl to version 4.02 firmware. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Robert Andrews wrote: Yes... It works very well if you have Tranzeo CPE's that support it. Many CPQ's don't unless you put in a new radio... Chris Gotstein wrote: We run mostly MT AP's and Tranzeo CPE (CPQ/SL2). Is it possible to run 10mhz or 5Mhz channels with MT AP and Tranzeo CPE? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.2/2074 - Release Date: 04/22/09 08:49:00 ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Vi
Re: [Mikrotik] Channel Widths
Maybe that is there the problem lies. We are running AES. At this point i'm waiting to here back from Tranzeo if they found a fix. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Robert Andrews wrote: TKIP, and we are upgrading from 3.22 to 3.23, although testing showed no difference we changed the update interval to 3000 from 3600 to match the MT. We run sr2 and xr2 and KXS30SG cards.. MT has tkip unicast and group keys Robert Chris Gotstein wrote: Are you doing WPA AES or TKIP? What software version are you running on the MT? Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Robert Andrews wrote: Again, I'll mention that we are running a slew of MT AP's and CPQ's and 10mhz channels with WPA and no problems... I am NOT denying your problem, just that there may be a configuration solution that's different between our setups.There are some CPQ's that will not to 10mhz channels even with 4.0.2. We only run WPA on 10mhz channels, so maybe that is it? MT with CPQ gives our best reliablility and speed to the customer. Robert Chris Gotstein wrote: Funny you should ask. I was going to ask the same question about whether or not i should be encrypting the traffic from the AP to the customer. WPA and WPA2 have caused me nothing but problems from the get-go and i would just rather get rid of it. The encryption was in place when i started here, and coming from the business side of things and setting up in-building wifi, we always used encryption. At first it was setup to provide security between the clients, but now we are able to turn off client-to-client communication, maybe i don't need to run it anymore. What are most people doing? Maybe i should turn it off Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com D. Ryan Spott wrote: I have to ask, Why are you encrypting traffic from your AP to your customer's CPE? ryan Chris Gotstein wrote: Can't upgrade to 4.0.2 at this time. There is an issue when using WPA and MT AP. Causes the clients to drop and reboot constantly. I'm sticking with 3.6.7 till they come up with a fix. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Carl A jeptha wrote: upgrade all tranzeo cpq and sl to version 4.02 firmware. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Robert Andrews wrote: Yes... It works very well if you have Tranzeo CPE's that support it. Many CPQ's don't unless you put in a new radio... Chris Gotstein wrote: We run mostly MT AP's and Tranzeo CPE (CPQ/SL2). Is it possible to run 10mhz or 5Mhz channels with MT AP and Tranzeo CPE? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.2/2074 - Release Date: 04/22/09 08:49:00 ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit h
Re: [Mikrotik] Channel Widths
We don't make claim that we encrypt data end-to-end. Just that it is encrypted between the tower and the client. Most people are just worried about their neighbors being able to see their computer data. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com D. Ryan Spott wrote: What is your liability should someone rely on that encryption for private issues? ryan Robert Andrews wrote: Sales is often a process of overcoming objections... WPA ( which hasn't been broken without a brute force attack, i.e. use a good password ) answers one of these issues. I love saying we have BETTER security than cable or dsl. Robert D. Ryan Spott wrote: I provide the same amount of encryption as the telco and cable company. NONE. It is the responsibility of my customers to encrypt anything they deem private or privileged. I would hate to tell someone that everything is safe because I use (insert-insert-20-minutes-or-less-crackable-encryption-scheme-here) to "protect" them. The next question I can see getting from that customer is why his/her credit card was used for some nefarious purpose because "they only use it when they use the Intarwebs". If someone really wants to sniff network traffic from their laptop or whatever off of my network.. Great, have at it. I have stories and have seen tape recorders and unofficial party lines made out of plenty of telco closets shared with banks and ISPs before. ryan Chris Gotstein wrote: Funny you should ask. I was going to ask the same question about whether or not i should be encrypting the traffic from the AP to the customer. WPA and WPA2 have caused me nothing but problems from the get-go and i would just rather get rid of it. The encryption was in place when i started here, and coming from the business side of things and setting up in-building wifi, we always used encryption. At first it was setup to provide security between the clients, but now we are able to turn off client-to-client communication, maybe i don't need to run it anymore. What are most people doing? Maybe i should turn it off Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com D. Ryan Spott wrote: I have to ask, Why are you encrypting traffic from your AP to your customer's CPE? ryan Chris Gotstein wrote: Can't upgrade to 4.0.2 at this time. There is an issue when using WPA and MT AP. Causes the clients to drop and reboot constantly. I'm sticking with 3.6.7 till they come up with a fix. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Carl A jeptha wrote: upgrade all tranzeo cpq and sl to version 4.02 firmware. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Robert Andrews wrote: Yes... It works very well if you have Tranzeo CPE's that support it. Many CPQ's don't unless you put in a new radio... Chris Gotstein wrote: We run mostly MT AP's and Tranzeo CPE (CPQ/SL2). Is it possible to run 10mhz or 5Mhz channels with MT AP and Tranzeo CPE? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.2/2074 - Release Date: 04/22/09 08:49:00 ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit h
Re: [Mikrotik] Channel Widths
We do get questioned a lot about security of the wireless. People assume that cable and dsl is more secure because it comes over a wire. They hear more about wireless security issues than they do about security issues with dsl and cable. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Robert Andrews wrote: Sales is often a process of overcoming objections... WPA ( which hasn't been broken without a brute force attack, i.e. use a good password ) answers one of these issues. I love saying we have BETTER security than cable or dsl. Robert D. Ryan Spott wrote: I provide the same amount of encryption as the telco and cable company. NONE. It is the responsibility of my customers to encrypt anything they deem private or privileged. I would hate to tell someone that everything is safe because I use (insert-insert-20-minutes-or-less-crackable-encryption-scheme-here) to "protect" them. The next question I can see getting from that customer is why his/her credit card was used for some nefarious purpose because "they only use it when they use the Intarwebs". If someone really wants to sniff network traffic from their laptop or whatever off of my network.. Great, have at it. I have stories and have seen tape recorders and unofficial party lines made out of plenty of telco closets shared with banks and ISPs before. ryan Chris Gotstein wrote: Funny you should ask. I was going to ask the same question about whether or not i should be encrypting the traffic from the AP to the customer. WPA and WPA2 have caused me nothing but problems from the get-go and i would just rather get rid of it. The encryption was in place when i started here, and coming from the business side of things and setting up in-building wifi, we always used encryption. At first it was setup to provide security between the clients, but now we are able to turn off client-to-client communication, maybe i don't need to run it anymore. What are most people doing? Maybe i should turn it off Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com D. Ryan Spott wrote: I have to ask, Why are you encrypting traffic from your AP to your customer's CPE? ryan Chris Gotstein wrote: Can't upgrade to 4.0.2 at this time. There is an issue when using WPA and MT AP. Causes the clients to drop and reboot constantly. I'm sticking with 3.6.7 till they come up with a fix. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Carl A jeptha wrote: upgrade all tranzeo cpq and sl to version 4.02 firmware. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Robert Andrews wrote: Yes... It works very well if you have Tranzeo CPE's that support it. Many CPQ's don't unless you put in a new radio... Chris Gotstein wrote: We run mostly MT AP's and Tranzeo CPE (CPQ/SL2). Is it possible to run 10mhz or 5Mhz channels with MT AP and Tranzeo CPE? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.2/2074 - Release Date: 04/22/09 08:49:00 ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS _
Re: [Mikrotik] Channel Widths
Are you doing WPA AES or TKIP? What software version are you running on the MT? Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Robert Andrews wrote: Again, I'll mention that we are running a slew of MT AP's and CPQ's and 10mhz channels with WPA and no problems... I am NOT denying your problem, just that there may be a configuration solution that's different between our setups.There are some CPQ's that will not to 10mhz channels even with 4.0.2. We only run WPA on 10mhz channels, so maybe that is it? MT with CPQ gives our best reliablility and speed to the customer. Robert Chris Gotstein wrote: Funny you should ask. I was going to ask the same question about whether or not i should be encrypting the traffic from the AP to the customer. WPA and WPA2 have caused me nothing but problems from the get-go and i would just rather get rid of it. The encryption was in place when i started here, and coming from the business side of things and setting up in-building wifi, we always used encryption. At first it was setup to provide security between the clients, but now we are able to turn off client-to-client communication, maybe i don't need to run it anymore. What are most people doing? Maybe i should turn it off Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com D. Ryan Spott wrote: I have to ask, Why are you encrypting traffic from your AP to your customer's CPE? ryan Chris Gotstein wrote: Can't upgrade to 4.0.2 at this time. There is an issue when using WPA and MT AP. Causes the clients to drop and reboot constantly. I'm sticking with 3.6.7 till they come up with a fix. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Carl A jeptha wrote: upgrade all tranzeo cpq and sl to version 4.02 firmware. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Robert Andrews wrote: Yes... It works very well if you have Tranzeo CPE's that support it. Many CPQ's don't unless you put in a new radio... Chris Gotstein wrote: We run mostly MT AP's and Tranzeo CPE (CPQ/SL2). Is it possible to run 10mhz or 5Mhz channels with MT AP and Tranzeo CPE? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.2/2074 - Release Date: 04/22/09 08:49:00 ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Channel Widths
My concern is with the shared aspect of wireless. We also run cable plants and i always make sure BPI is enabled on the all modems. I guess it can go both ways, i would rather be on the safe side and encrypt, but lately it's just been causing me to many headaches. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com D. Ryan Spott wrote: I provide the same amount of encryption as the telco and cable company. NONE. It is the responsibility of my customers to encrypt anything they deem private or privileged. I would hate to tell someone that everything is safe because I use (insert-insert-20-minutes-or-less-crackable-encryption-scheme-here) to "protect" them. The next question I can see getting from that customer is why his/her credit card was used for some nefarious purpose because "they only use it when they use the Intarwebs". If someone really wants to sniff network traffic from their laptop or whatever off of my network.. Great, have at it. I have stories and have seen tape recorders and unofficial party lines made out of plenty of telco closets shared with banks and ISPs before. ryan Chris Gotstein wrote: Funny you should ask. I was going to ask the same question about whether or not i should be encrypting the traffic from the AP to the customer. WPA and WPA2 have caused me nothing but problems from the get-go and i would just rather get rid of it. The encryption was in place when i started here, and coming from the business side of things and setting up in-building wifi, we always used encryption. At first it was setup to provide security between the clients, but now we are able to turn off client-to-client communication, maybe i don't need to run it anymore. What are most people doing? Maybe i should turn it off Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com D. Ryan Spott wrote: I have to ask, Why are you encrypting traffic from your AP to your customer's CPE? ryan Chris Gotstein wrote: Can't upgrade to 4.0.2 at this time. There is an issue when using WPA and MT AP. Causes the clients to drop and reboot constantly. I'm sticking with 3.6.7 till they come up with a fix. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Carl A jeptha wrote: upgrade all tranzeo cpq and sl to version 4.02 firmware. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Robert Andrews wrote: Yes... It works very well if you have Tranzeo CPE's that support it. Many CPQ's don't unless you put in a new radio... Chris Gotstein wrote: We run mostly MT AP's and Tranzeo CPE (CPQ/SL2). Is it possible to run 10mhz or 5Mhz channels with MT AP and Tranzeo CPE? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.2/2074 - Release Date: 04/22/09 08:49:00 ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Channel Widths
Funny you should ask. I was going to ask the same question about whether or not i should be encrypting the traffic from the AP to the customer. WPA and WPA2 have caused me nothing but problems from the get-go and i would just rather get rid of it. The encryption was in place when i started here, and coming from the business side of things and setting up in-building wifi, we always used encryption. At first it was setup to provide security between the clients, but now we are able to turn off client-to-client communication, maybe i don't need to run it anymore. What are most people doing? Maybe i should turn it off.... Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com D. Ryan Spott wrote: I have to ask, Why are you encrypting traffic from your AP to your customer's CPE? ryan Chris Gotstein wrote: Can't upgrade to 4.0.2 at this time. There is an issue when using WPA and MT AP. Causes the clients to drop and reboot constantly. I'm sticking with 3.6.7 till they come up with a fix. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Carl A jeptha wrote: upgrade all tranzeo cpq and sl to version 4.02 firmware. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Robert Andrews wrote: Yes... It works very well if you have Tranzeo CPE's that support it. Many CPQ's don't unless you put in a new radio... Chris Gotstein wrote: We run mostly MT AP's and Tranzeo CPE (CPQ/SL2). Is it possible to run 10mhz or 5Mhz channels with MT AP and Tranzeo CPE? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.2/2074 - Release Date: 04/22/09 08:49:00 ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Channel Widths
Doesn't matter which radio is in the MT? I'm running mostly XR2's. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Robert Andrews wrote: Yes... It works very well if you have Tranzeo CPE's that support it. Many CPQ's don't unless you put in a new radio... Chris Gotstein wrote: We run mostly MT AP's and Tranzeo CPE (CPQ/SL2). Is it possible to run 10mhz or 5Mhz channels with MT AP and Tranzeo CPE? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
Re: [Mikrotik] Channel Widths
Can't upgrade to 4.0.2 at this time. There is an issue when using WPA and MT AP. Causes the clients to drop and reboot constantly. I'm sticking with 3.6.7 till they come up with a fix. Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com Carl A jeptha wrote: upgrade all tranzeo cpq and sl to version 4.02 firmware. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Robert Andrews wrote: Yes... It works very well if you have Tranzeo CPE's that support it. Many CPQ's don't unless you put in a new radio... Chris Gotstein wrote: We run mostly MT AP's and Tranzeo CPE (CPQ/SL2). Is it possible to run 10mhz or 5Mhz channels with MT AP and Tranzeo CPE? ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.2/2074 - Release Date: 04/22/09 08:49:00 ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] Channel Widths
We run mostly MT AP's and Tranzeo CPE (CPQ/SL2). Is it possible to run 10mhz or 5Mhz channels with MT AP and Tranzeo CPE? -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
[Mikrotik] Cisco to Mikrotik IPIP Tunnel Routing (Bump)
(bump) I need to setup a tunnel between a Mikrotik box and a Cisco router. I already have the tunnel setup, and can ping each side. But i need to be able to access the private ip ranges (APs, clients, etc) that are connected to the MT box from the network that the Cisco is on. I know it's as simple as setting up the correct routes, but for the life of me, i'm just not getting the right combination. Here's a layout: Cisco(192.168.255.253) - (tunnel1) - Mikrotik(192.168.255.254) Need to access these subnets on the MT box: 172.16.50.0/24 172.16.9.0/24 I setup a route on the cisco as follows: ip route 172.16.50.0 255.255.255.0 tunnel1 ip route 172.16.9.0 255.255.255.0 tunnel1 I can then ping the 172.16.50.1 address from the Cisco, which is one of the addresses assigned to the MT box. But if i try to ping 172.16.50.5, which is a server beyond the MT box, it times out. I'm pretty sure i'm missing some routes on the MT box to make this happen. Any suggestions? -- Chris Gotstein Sr Network Engineer UP Logon/Computer Connection UP 500 N Stephenson Ave Iron Mountain, MI 49801 Phone: 906-774-4847 Fax: 906-774-0335 ch...@uplogon.com ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS
