Re: missing clue regarding IPv6, vlans bridging
I did some additional tests : pings using link-local addresses work out-of-the-box, whether the target is hme0 or le0, but the problem remains with public addresses (2000::/3) On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:36 PM, dermiste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi misc, my ISP is kind enough to provide native IPv6 access, so I'd like to have a full-IPv6 intranet. IPv6 addresses are assigned with rtadv and IPv4 with DHCP The setup : curry: OpenBSD-current, Thinkpad x41. /etc/hostname.bge0: up /etc/hostname.vlan0: vlan 0 vlandev bge0 up rtsol /etc/hostname.vlan1: vlan 1 vlandev bge0 up dhcp NONE NONE NONE debruijn: OpenBSD-4.3, Sun Ultra 1. /etc/hostname.le0: dhcp NONE NONE NONE up rtsol /etc/hostname.hme0 lladdr 08:00:20:68:54:b1 up #by default hme0's ll@ equals le0's ll@ /etc/hostname.vlan0 vlan 0 vlandev hme0 up /etc/hostname.vlan1 inet 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.255 vlan 1 vlandev hme0 up /etc/bridgename.bridge0 add le0 add vlan0 up (plus nat on le0 inet from !(le0) - (le0)) [Teh Intartubz] ! ! ! +-+ | le0 | | +--+| | bridge0| | ! | | vlan0 vlan1 | | +--+--+ | | hme0 | +-+ ! ! ! [my network] If it's not clear enough, vlan 0 is for IPv6 and vlan 1 for IPv4, so I can bridge vlan0 and le0. debruijn boots cleanly, gets all its adresses and routes, both v6 and v4. curry boots cleanly, gets all its addresses and routes, both v6 and v4 then : 1) from curry, I try to ping6 debruijn, but it says host unreachable 2) from debruijn, I try to ping6 curry, and it works. 3) from curry, I try to ping6 debruijn, and it works. I tcpdump'ed hme0, vlan0 and bridge0 during curry boot, and the packets flow through all 3, showing DHCP on vlan1 and rtadv on vlan0 + bridge0. During the pings, not a single packet goes through bridge0 or vlan0, but I've a lot of ICMPv6 neighbor sol on hme0 from curry during 1), then a successful neighbor sol - neighbor adv from debruijn to curry followed by echo requests and replies on hme0 during 2), then the same pattern from curry to debruijn on hme0 during 3). I really can't see what's wrong with my setup, clues anyone ? -- Vincent Gross So, the essence of XML is this: the problem it solves is not hard, and it does not solve the problem well. -- Jerome Simeon Phil Wadler -- -- Vincent Gross So, the essence of XML is this: the problem it solves is not hard, and it does not solve the problem well. -- Jerome Simeon Phil Wadler
Re: Performance issues with the DNS patch?
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008, J Duke wrote: I realize that the whole fix to this DNS cache poisoning is to have random ports and random query ids, and that generating good, strong, random numbers costs cpu cycles and time. Has anyone else noticed the performance hit? Anything that I can do? Particularly I am open to any suggestions on commands that would help identify if that is really the problem, systat, vmstat, etc. The additional overhead in the fixed bind is due to the need to manange lots of open sockets. Since bind now randomises source ports, it must open, bind and subsequently manage a UDP socket for each query whereas before it only needed a single socket for its single query port. Future releases of bind will reduce this overhead a little, but a good portion of it is intrinsic. That being said, you probably shouldn't be getting failed queries. Make sure that: 1) You aren't running out of file descriptors in bind (check logs and ulimits against fstat -p [named-pid]) 2) Your queries are not being firewalled. There are lots of firewalls that implement restrictions on high-numbered UDP ports. If you have such a firewall then you will cause queries to fail and be retried, which will cause additional load on your name server. -current tries hard to avoid well-known ports, but we can't predict every firewall configuration. -d
Re: Atheros Drivers
Man, It's not like the other thread even died yet. -- http://www.glumbert.com/media/shift http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation. Securing an environment of Windows platforms from abuse - external or internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks factory where smoking on the job is permitted. -- Gene Spafford learn french: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1G-3laJJP0feature=related
Re: Atheros Drivers
On 7/29/08 5:59 AM, Ringo Kamens wrote: Here's the full story, people seemed to be wondering if the drivers were open/had binary blobs etc. The new frontier? Yes there are no blobs in the code but because the important part of the code has come from a reverse engineereed blob and there is no full documentation there is only little difference. Let's call it open by obscurity or so? That FSF gives free publicity to Atheros and with Atheros ignores the facts, such as lacking documentations and that the main part was work of Reyk is morally defect. +++chefren
Re: make ls not show dot-files as root
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:33:54AM +0200, Jesus Sanchez wrote: Hi, using 4.2. Just for curiosity... Can I make ls to NOT show the hidden files (.xinitrc , .vimrc, etc) when using as Root?? Thanks 4 all. Why is this a problem ? When you're root, you really want to see all the files. If you see this as inconvenient, this is because you're misusing the root account, most likely doing your normal work as root. THIS IS A HUGE MISTAKE. Create a user account, use it. You have nice tools like sudo to become root when you need it. If you do everything as root, sooner or later, you will fuck up. We have this old saying. There are two kinds of sysadmins: those who have already done one big mistake (and learnt from it) and those who haven't YET.
mount_ext2fs
Hi, It might be worth noting in the man page that if the ext2 file system is created outside openbsd that the inode size needs to be set to 128 in order for it to work in obsd... (at least that seemed solve the problem for me (4.3))... Cheers Mark or take any action in reliance on its content. *** *** This email has been checked for known viruses. ***
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Re: keyboard encoding
Hi! On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 07:30:35PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Hannah Schroeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is your keyboard an USB one? I observe the same with an USB keyboard. - keyboard.encoding=us.swapctrlcaps has no effect (in /etc/wsconsctl.conf) These settings only affect the _first_ keyboard in the system (wskbd0). Unfortunately, for a PC that is usually the PS/2 keyboard, even if none is plugged in. This is a box that has *no* PS/2 connectors any more. But it still has a PS/2 keyboard controller. Check your dmesg. It probably includes something like this: pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 You're right: $ grep pckb /var/run/dmesg.boot pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 $ That's quite unfortunate though if you can't affect the non-X11 keyboard mapping of secondary keyboards at all. (And btw, in X11, somehow the setup of the keyboard mapping from /etc/X11/xorg.conf is delayed, since about mid-December 2007. Before, the mapping from there, and from a few xmodmap settings loaded in .xinitrc, took effect immediately when X was up from startx, now it takes quite some time, perhaps half a minute or so, for them to take effect. Related to X11 privsep changes? Later changes using setxkbmap take effect immediately, btw.) Kind regards, Hannah.
Re: OpenBSD 4.4-beta compile error in /usr/src/gnu/lib/libiberty
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On 2008-07-26, Bernard Parinas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having a problem building the userland. Compiling libc and libm was successful but not the libiberty. Use a snapshot. Hi Stuart, It works as expected. Thanks for your help. -Bernard
Re: keyboard encoding
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Hannah Schroeter wrote: Hi! On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 07:30:35PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Hannah Schroeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is your keyboard an USB one? I observe the same with an USB keyboard. - keyboard.encoding=us.swapctrlcaps has no effect (in /etc/wsconsctl.conf) These settings only affect the _first_ keyboard in the system (wskbd0). Unfortunately, for a PC that is usually the PS/2 keyboard, even if none is plugged in. This is a box that has *no* PS/2 connectors any more. But it still has a PS/2 keyboard controller. Check your dmesg. It probably includes something like this: pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 You're right: $ grep pckb /var/run/dmesg.boot pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 $ That's quite unfortunate though if you can't affect the non-X11 keyboard mapping of secondary keyboards at all. Thats not correct. /sbin/kbd will change keyboard settings on ALL keyboards that has support for the requested keyboard map. wsconsctl has -f which allows you select which keyboard you are applying the change to. For keyboard operations /dev/wskbd0 is default if not specified. read the man page! (And btw, in X11, somehow the setup of the keyboard mapping from /etc/X11/xorg.conf is delayed, since about mid-December 2007. Before, the mapping from there, and from a few xmodmap settings loaded in .xinitrc, took effect immediately when X was up from startx, now it takes quite some time, perhaps half a minute or so, for them to take effect. Related to X11 privsep changes? Later changes using setxkbmap take effect immediately, btw.) It will always take the mapping from xorg.conf if it is defined there. If no keyboard language is specified X11 will now make a guess depending on which keyboard layout wscons has. But since X11 is reading the keyboard raw any change made to wscons after X11 is started doesn't change anything in X11. -moj Kind regards, Hannah.
Re: keyboard encoding
Hi! On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 03:53:37PM +0200, Mats O Jansson wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Hannah Schroeter wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 07:30:35PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Hannah Schroeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is your keyboard an USB one? I observe the same with an USB keyboard. - keyboard.encoding=us.swapctrlcaps has no effect (in /etc/wsconsctl.conf) These settings only affect the _first_ keyboard in the system (wskbd0). Unfortunately, for a PC that is usually the PS/2 keyboard, even if none is plugged in. [...] That's quite unfortunate though if you can't affect the non-X11 keyboard mapping of secondary keyboards at all. Thats not correct. /sbin/kbd will change keyboard settings on ALL keyboards that has support for the requested keyboard map. wsconsctl has -f which allows you select which keyboard you are applying the change to. For keyboard operations /dev/wskbd0 is default if not specified. read the man page! Thanks for the hints. I see /etc/rc still can use /sbin/kbd to set the keyboard type from /etc/kbdtype, in addition to load wsconsctl settings from /etc/wsconsctl.conf (but the latter only to the default control devices, to load settings to a *specific* different control device, it seems you need to setup something on your own, e.g. in /etc/rc.local). (And btw, in X11, somehow the setup of the keyboard mapping from /etc/X11/xorg.conf is delayed, since about mid-December 2007. Before, the mapping from there, and from a few xmodmap settings loaded in .xinitrc, took effect immediately when X was up from startx, now it takes quite some time, perhaps half a minute or so, for them to take effect. Related to X11 privsep changes? Later changes using setxkbmap take effect immediately, btw.) It will always take the mapping from xorg.conf if it is defined there. If no keyboard language is specified X11 will now make a guess depending on which keyboard layout wscons has. But since X11 is reading the keyboard raw any change made to wscons after X11 is started doesn't change anything in X11. No problem. I set the X11 keyboard layout using X11 means (xorg.conf, setxkbmap, xmodmap). I just complained about the *delay* for the initial setup from xorg.conf. That delay was introduced around in December 07. Before that, the keyboard setup from xorg.conf used to be in effect immediately after startup, now, directly after startup, it seems to be the keyboard setup taken from wscons, and after about half a minute, it suddenly changes to be that from xorg.conf. Kind regards, Hannah.
sparc64 kernel panic (SUN v440)
Hi all, I just had my v440 crash on me with a weird message (at the end of the dmesg). Any ideas why that happened? console is /[EMAIL PROTECTED],60/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],3f8 Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2008 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http://www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 4.4-beta (GENERIC.MP) #364: Sun Jul 20 17:33:03 MDT 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 8589934592 (8192MB) avail mem = 8369397760 (7981MB) mainbus0 at root: Sun Fire V440 cpu0 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIIi (rev 2.4) @ 1062 MHz cpu0: physical 32K instruction (32 b/l), 64K data (32 b/l), 1024K external (64 b/l) cpu1 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIIi (rev 2.4) @ 1062 MHz cpu1: physical 32K instruction (32 b/l), 64K data (32 b/l), 1024K external (64 b/l) cpu2 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIIi (rev 2.4) @ 1062 MHz cpu2: physical 32K instruction (32 b/l), 64K data (32 b/l), 1024K external (64 b/l) cpu3 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIIi (rev 2.4) @ 1062 MHz cpu3: physical 32K instruction (32 b/l), 64K data (32 b/l), 1024K external (64 b/l) memory-controller at mainbus0 not configured memory-controller at mainbus0 not configured memory-controller at mainbus0 not configured memory-controller at mainbus0 not configured schizo0 at mainbus0: Tomatillo, version 4, ign 700, bus A 0 to 0 schizo0: dvma map c000-dfff, iotdb 5174000-51f4000 pci0 at schizo0 cas0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Sun Cassini rev 0x20: ivec 0x718, address 00:03:ba:66:75:d1 brgphy0 at cas0 phy 1: BCM5421 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 1 ppm at mainbus0 not configured schizo1 at mainbus0: Tomatillo, version 4, ign 740, bus B 0 to 0 schizo1: dvma map c000-dfff, iotdb 552c000-55ac000 pci1 at schizo1 mpi0 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 Symbios Logic 53c1030 rev 0x08: ivec 0x740 scsibus0 at mpi0: 16 targets, initiator 7 schizo2 at mainbus0: Tomatillo, version 4, ign 780, bus A 0 to 0 schizo2: dvma map c000-dfff, iotdb 5694000-5714000 pci2 at schizo2 ebus0 at pci2 dev 7 function 0 Acer Labs M1533 ISA rev 0x00 flashprom at ebus0 addr 0-f, 290-290 not configured rtc0 at ebus0 addr 70-71: m5819p pcfiic0 at ebus0 addr 320-321 ivec 0x1b iic0 at pcfiic0 SUNW,i2c-imax at iic0 addr 0xb not configured SUNW,i2c-imax at iic0 addr 0xc not configured admtemp0 at iic0 addr 0x18: max1617, cannot get control register pca9555 at iic0 addr 0x21 not configured pca9555 at iic0 addr 0x22 not configured pca9555 at iic0 addr 0x23 not configured pca9555 at iic0 addr 0x24 not configured adm1026 at iic0 addr 0x2e not configured admtemp1 at iic0 addr 0x32: max1617, cannot get control register admtemp2 at iic0 addr 0x40: max1617, cannot get control register admtemp3 at iic0 addr 0x48: max1617, cannot get control register lmtemp0 at iic0 addr 0x4e: lm75, fails to respond spd at iic0 addr 0x5b not configured spd at iic0 addr 0x5c not configured spd at iic0 addr 0x5d not configured spd at iic0 addr 0x5e not configured spd at iic0 addr 0x63 not configured spd at iic0 addr 0x64 not configured spd at iic0 addr 0x65 not configured spd at iic0 addr 0x66 not configured spd at iic0 addr 0x6b not configured spd at iic0 addr 0x6c not configured spd at iic0 addr 0x6d not configured spd at iic0 addr 0x6e not configured spd at iic0 addr 0x73 not configured spd at iic0 addr 0x74 not configured spd at iic0 addr 0x75 not configured spd at iic0 addr 0x76 not configured ics951601 at iic0 addr 0x69 not configured power0 at ebus0 addr 800-82f ivec 0x1a com0 at ebus0 addr 3f8-3ff ivec 0x22: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com0: console com1 at ebus0 addr 2e8-2ef ivec 0x22: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo rmc-comm at ebus0 addr 3e8-3ef ivec 0x22 not configured cas1 at pci2 dev 2 function 0 NS Saturn rev 0x30: ivec 0x78c, address 00:14:4f:1e:d6:b4 gentbi0 at cas1 phy 0: Generic ten-bit interface, rev. 0 ATI Rage XL rev 0x27 at pci2 dev 4 function 0 not configured alipm0 at pci2 dev 6 function 0 Acer Labs M7101 Power rev 0x00: 223KHz clock iic1 at alipm0 ohci0 at pci2 dev 10 function 0 Acer Labs M5237 USB rev 0x03: ivec 0x7a1, version 1.0, legacy support ohci1 at pci2 dev 11 function 0 Acer Labs M5237 USB rev 0x03: ivec 0x7a5, version 1.0, legacy support pciide0 at pci2 dev 13 function 0 Acer Labs M5229 UDMA IDE rev 0xc4: DMA, channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI pciide0: using ivec 0x7a6 for native-PCI interrupt atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0 scsibus1 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets, initiator 7 cd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: TOSHIBA, DVD-ROM SD-C2612, 1011 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 pciide0: channel 1 disabled (no drives) usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 Acer Labs OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Acer Labs OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 ppm at mainbus0 not configured schizo3 at mainbus0:
Re: keyboard encoding
Hannah Schroeter wrote: Hi! On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 03:53:37PM +0200, Mats O Jansson wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Hannah Schroeter wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 07:30:35PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Hannah Schroeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is your keyboard an USB one? I observe the same with an USB keyboard. - keyboard.encoding=us.swapctrlcaps has no effect (in /etc/wsconsctl.conf) These settings only affect the _first_ keyboard in the system (wskbd0). Unfortunately, for a PC that is usually the PS/2 keyboard, even if none is plugged in. [...] That's quite unfortunate though if you can't affect the non-X11 keyboard mapping of secondary keyboards at all. Thats not correct. /sbin/kbd will change keyboard settings on ALL keyboards that has support for the requested keyboard map. wsconsctl has -f which allows you select which keyboard you are applying the change to. For keyboard operations /dev/wskbd0 is default if not specified. read the man page! Thanks for the hints. I see /etc/rc still can use /sbin/kbd to set the keyboard type from /etc/kbdtype, in addition to load wsconsctl settings from /etc/wsconsctl.conf (but the latter only to the default control devices, to load settings to a *specific* different control device, it seems you need to setup something on your own, e.g. in /etc/rc.local). (And btw, in X11, somehow the setup of the keyboard mapping from /etc/X11/xorg.conf is delayed, since about mid-December 2007. Before, the mapping from there, and from a few xmodmap settings loaded in .xinitrc, took effect immediately when X was up from startx, now it takes quite some time, perhaps half a minute or so, for them to take effect. Related to X11 privsep changes? Later changes using setxkbmap take effect immediately, btw.) It will always take the mapping from xorg.conf if it is defined there. If no keyboard language is specified X11 will now make a guess depending on which keyboard layout wscons has. But since X11 is reading the keyboard raw any change made to wscons after X11 is started doesn't change anything in X11. No problem. I set the X11 keyboard layout using X11 means (xorg.conf, setxkbmap, xmodmap). I just complained about the *delay* for the initial setup from xorg.conf. That delay was introduced around in December 07. Before that, the keyboard setup from xorg.conf used to be in effect immediately after startup, now, directly after startup, it seems to be the keyboard setup taken from wscons, and after about half a minute, it suddenly changes to be that from xorg.conf. Kind regards, Hannah. Rem: the XlbLayout option in xorg.conf is a list which happens to only have one member most of the time. This said, in order to use the keyboard applet under GNOME, I needed ln -s /etc/X11/xkb /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb might explain some delay? Keyboard switching is present in XFCE, but only enable the default. Switching is planned for later versions. Now, fir the VT's, there *must* be a way. Thinking of thre luit filter, now part of stock xorg. Luit filters source codeset and dislays target codeset. Intended for UTF-8 and the UNICODEs, what woud prevent it to translate US-8859-1 from/to DE-8859-15 ? Didn't try though. Stiil convinced there must be easier ways.
Re: keyboard encoding
Hi! On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 05:33:42PM +0200, Louis V. Lambrecht wrote: Hannah Schroeter wrote: [...] No problem. I set the X11 keyboard layout using X11 means (xorg.conf, setxkbmap, xmodmap). I just complained about the *delay* for the initial setup from xorg.conf. That delay was introduced around in December 07. Before that, the keyboard setup from xorg.conf used to be in effect immediately after startup, now, directly after startup, it seems to be the keyboard setup taken from wscons, and after about half a minute, it suddenly changes to be that from xorg.conf. Rem: the XlbLayout option in xorg.conf is a list which happens to only have one member most of the time. This said, in order to use the keyboard applet under GNOME, I needed ln -s /etc/X11/xkb /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb might explain some delay? I don't think so. X11 *does* eventually setup the keyboard right, it just has a delay, i.e. it first has the wrong keyboard mapping, later the right one, without any user action. And I do *not* use GNOME or any other desktop environment. Keyboard switching is present in XFCE, but only enable the default. Switching is planned for later versions. I don't use xfce either. I use fvwm2 from ports, but for keyboard switching (rarely needed, usually the initial mapping from xorg.conf plus a few xmodmap settings, once it's active after the initial delay, is ok for me) I use shell scripts involving setxkbmap and re-loading my xmodmap modifications, called either from xterm manually, or from the fvwm2 menu. Now, fir the VT's, there *must* be a way. Thinking of thre luit filter, now part of stock xorg. Luit filters source codeset and dislays target codeset. Intended for UTF-8 and the UNICODEs, what woud prevent it to translate US-8859-1 from/to DE-8859-15 ? Didn't try though. Stiil convinced there must be easier ways. luit isn't for keyboard mapping, but, as you said, for character encoding. I don't use it (usually doing iso-8859-1 using a non-utf-8 xterm, for the rare instances I need utf-8, I use uxterm, and I nearly never need anything besides those two). Kind regards, Hannah.
Is it necessary to recompile just to apply a security patch?
Is it necessary to recompile just to apply a security patch? Hello, I know nothing/very little about OpenBSD or UNIX. I have been tasked with updating our OpenBSD DNS server with a security fix (Vulnerability Note VU#800113- Multiple DNS implementations vulnerable to cache poisoning). In order to do this it appears that I have to download the source code re-compile the entire OS. Recompiling the OS seems to involve a lot of steps. Before I continue to read through them all, I just want to confirm that it is actually necessary to do all of this, simply to apply a security patch: Down load the tree.. Pre load the tree.. Build the Kernel.. Build the userland.. Etc. The only thing we use the server for is DNS. I dont know what Flavor we are running, since its on a production server I assume it will be * release or * stable, either way from what Ive read so far it looks like in order to apply this security patch I will have to update it to * stable. Is it true that the only way to apply this patch is to recompile the entire OS, and go through all the steps above? Im only familiar with Windows, where you just push a button to apply a security patch and you dont even have to reboot the server, so I was thinking that I may be misunderstanding what Im reading. Thanks very much for your time and any info Kyle
Re: Is it necessary to recompile just to apply a security patch?
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:41 AM, skogzort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it necessary to recompile just to apply a security patch? Hello, I know nothing/very little about OpenBSD or UNIX. I have been tasked with updating our OpenBSD DNS server with a security fix (Vulnerability Note VU#800113- Multiple DNS implementations vulnerable to cache poisoning). In order to do this it appears that I have to download the source code re-compile the entire OS. Recompiling the OS seems to involve a lot of steps. Before I continue to read through them all, I just want to confirm that it is actually necessary to do all of this, simply to apply a security patch: Down load the tree.. Pre load the tree.. Build the Kernel.. Build the userland.. Etc. The only thing we use the server for is DNS. I dont know what Flavor we are running, since its on a production server I assume it will be * release or * stable, either way from what Ive read so far it looks like in order to apply this security patch I will have to update it to * stable. Is it true that the only way to apply this patch is to recompile the entire OS, and go through all the steps above? Im only familiar with Windows, where you just push a button to apply a security patch and you dont even have to reboot the server, so I was thinking that I may be misunderstanding what Im reading. OpenBSD is mostly designed as a monolithic kernel. It's a very small kernel, only a couple of megs large, but it is one single program so yes, to apply a security patch to the kernel you must recompile the entire kernel. You may be able to get away without recompiling userland if the patch is only affecting kernel internals, but just to be safe you probably should do userland too. It's not actually that hard to recompile, the instructions are very clear -- but I do know the feeling that you have, I only finally worked myself up to compiling kernels. Just take the leap of faith and in a few hours you'll have a new secure system. Hmm, though if you don't know much about Unix, make sure to take a backup of /etc first, though, just in case you trash your DNS server. -Nick
Re: Is it necessary to recompile just to apply a security patch?
skogzort wrote: Is it necessary to recompile just to apply a security patch? Hello, I know nothing/very little about OpenBSD or UNIX. I have been tasked with updating our OpenBSD DNS server with a security fix (Vulnerability Note VU#800113- Multiple DNS implementations vulnerable to cache poisoning). In order to do this it appears that I have to download the source code re-compile the entire OS. Recompiling the OS seems to involve a lot of steps. Before I continue to read through them all, I just want to confirm that it is actually necessary to do all of this, simply to apply a security patch: Down load the tree.. Pre load the tree.. Build the Kernel.. Build the userland.. Etc. The only thing we use the server for is DNS. I dont know what Flavor we are running, since its on a production server I assume it will be * release or * stable, either way from what Ive read so far it looks like in order to apply this security patch I will have to update it to * stable. Is it true that the only way to apply this patch is to recompile the entire OS, and go through all the steps above? Im only familiar with Windows, where you just push a button to apply a security patch and you dont even have to reboot the server, so I was thinking that I may be misunderstanding what Im reading. Thanks very much for your time and any info Kyle Hi Kyle, the header of the patch available at ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/patches/4.3/common/004_bind.patch explains: Apply by doing: cd /usr/src patch -p0 004_bind.patch Then rebuild and install bind: cd usr.sbin/bind make -f Makefile.bsd-wrapper obj make -f Makefile.bsd-wrapper make -f Makefile.bsd-wrapper install that's all you need to do. HTH, Heinrich
Is it necessary to recompile OS to apply security patch?
Hello, I know nothing/very little about OpenBSD or UNIX. I have been tasked with updating our OpenBSD DNS server with a security fix (Vulnerability Note VU#800113- Multiple DNS implementations vulnerable to cache poisoning). In order to do this it appears that I have to download the source code re-compile the entire OS. Recompiling the OS seems to involve a lot of steps. Before I continue to read through them all, I just want to confirm that it is actually necessary to do all of this, simply to apply a security patch: Down load the tree.. Pre load the tree.. Build the Kernel.. Build the userland.. Etc. The only thing we use the server for is DNS. I dont know what flavor we are running, since its on a production server I assume it will be * release or * stable, either way from what Ive read so far it looks like in order to apply this security patch I will have to update it to * stable, which seems to require that the entire OS be recompiled. Is this correct? Is it true that the only way to apply this patch is to recompile the entire OS, and go through all the steps above? I dont mind doing all this since it will give me a chance to learn, its just that the more steps I have to take, the more chances there are for mistakes. I want to be sure that the way I plan to do the update is the simplest. Im only familiar with Windows, where you just push a button to apply a security patch and you dont even have to reboot the server, so I was thinking that I may be misunderstanding what Im reading. Thanks very much for your time and any info Kyle
Re: keyboard encoding
Hannah Schroeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a box that has *no* PS/2 connectors any more. But it still has a PS/2 keyboard controller. You're right: [...] That's quite unfortunate though if you can't affect the non-X11 keyboard mapping of secondary keyboards at all. If you don't want to touch the startup scripts, you can just disable pckbc in the kernel. -- Christian naddy Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it necessary to recompile just to apply a security patch?
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 08:41:36AM -0700, skogzort wrote: Is it necessary to recompile just to apply a security patch? Of course! ;) In order to do this it appears that I have to download the source code re-compile the entire OS. Recompiling the OS seems to involve a lot of steps. Before I continue to read through them all, I just want to confirm that it is actually necessary to do all of this, simply to apply a security patch: Do you use the current 4.3 or do you use a CVS snapshot ? If you use 4.3 you _have_ to download and install src.tar.gz and install it. Now download only the bind patch for 4.3 and apply the patch and rebuild and reinstall named. (Don't forget to restart named ;) ) If you use a older version check the appropriate errata page instead ;) Its OpenBSD. Its soo easy :P HTH, Andreas. -- Windows 95: A 32-bit patch for a 16-bit GUI shell running on top of an 8-bit operating system written for a 4-bit processor by a 2-bit company who cannot stand 1 bit of competition.
Re: Is it necessary to recompile just to apply a security patch?
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:41 PM, skogzort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it necessary to recompile just to apply a security patch? Hello, I know nothing/very little about OpenBSD or UNIX. I have been tasked with updating our OpenBSD DNS server with a security fix (Vulnerability Note VU#800113- Multiple DNS implementations vulnerable to cache poisoning). In order to do this it appears that I have to download the source code re-compile the entire OS. Recompiling the OS seems to involve a lot of steps. Before I continue to read through them all, I just want to confirm that it is actually necessary to do all of this, simply to apply a security patch: Down load the tree.. Pre load the tree.. Build the Kernel.. Build the userland.. Etc. The only thing we use the server for is DNS. I dont know what Flavor we are running, since its on a production server I assume it will be * release or * stable, either way from what Ive read so far it looks like in order to apply this security patch I will have to update it to * stable. Is it true that the only way to apply this patch is to recompile the entire OS, and go through all the steps above? Im only familiar with Windows, where you just push a button to apply a security patch and you dont even have to reboot the server, so I was thinking that I may be misunderstanding what Im reading. Thanks very much for your time and any info Kyle The first step is you need to identify which version of OpenBSD that you're running right now, and apply suitable patches to your system. For latest DNS patches, OpenBSD developers were releasing two version of security fixes for 4.2 and 4.3. Just follow the given instruction at the top/head of every patch. http://www.openbsd.org/errata43.html ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/patches/4.3/common/004_bind.patch http://www.openbsd.org/errata42.html ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/patches/4.2/common/013_bind.patch And you may check archive, couple of days ago, iirc someone reported they were successfully updating their DNS in 4.1 by using patch from 4.2. And finally, probably you need to read about this too (not sure either the above patches will affect DNS performance in OpenBSD, but someone just reporting it about some issue with Ironport, check archive): http://marc.info/?l=bind-usersm=121726908015389w=2 -- Thank you. Zamri Besar
Re: Is it necessary to recompile OS to apply security patch?
Assume this production server is running one of the supported releases, 4.2 or 4.3, you can obtain the latest patch via the errata page. http://openbsd.org/errata43.html For 4.2 it's errata #013, for 4.3 it's #004... if you run an earlier version, manually merging the patch may be required. From the top of the 4.3 patch file: ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/patches/4.3/common/004_bind.patch Apply by doing: cd /usr/src patch -p0 004_bind.patch Then rebuild and install bind: cd usr.sbin/bind make -f Makefile.bsd-wrapper obj make -f Makefile.bsd-wrapper make -f Makefile.bsd-wrapper install You'll only need to recompile then restart BIND, updating to -STABLE and compiling the kernel isn't required.. Now, your server may not have the source in /usr/src, you can either obtain it from the release CD-ROM or a local HTTP/FTP mirror.. src.tar.gz is the userland. sys.tar.gz is the kernel. Locate a mirror here: http://www.openbsd.org/ftp.html Take care, feel free to reply to the list for further assistance...
Re: Is it necessary to recompile OS to apply security patch?
Hi, Assuming the box is only a DNS server, then the simplest easiest (in my option) is to take a copy of the DNS related files: - /etc/rc.conf.local - /var/named/* - noting also IP address, hostname etc etc and then reinstall the o/s from a recent snapshot (downloaded here ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/ or mirror), which has all the patches pre-applied. Then restore the above files. job done. if you're paranoid and unexperienced in unix, then grab a spare machine to do a dry run on that. /Pete On 29 Jul 2008, at 18:16, skogzort wrote: Hello, I know nothing/very little about OpenBSD or UNIX. I have been tasked with updating our OpenBSD DNS server with a security fix (Vulnerability Note VU#800113- Multiple DNS implementations vulnerable to cache poisoning). In order to do this it appears that I have to download the source code re-compile the entire OS. Recompiling the OS seems to involve a lot of steps. Before I continue to read through them all, I just want to confirm that it is actually necessary to do all of this, simply to apply a security patch: Down load the tree.. Pre load the tree.. Build the Kernel.. Build the userland.. Etc. The only thing we use the server for is DNS. I dont know what flavor we are running, since its on a production server I assume it will be * release or * stable, either way from what Ive read so far it looks like in order to apply this security patch I will have to update it to * stable, which seems to require that the entire OS be recompiled. Is this correct? Is it true that the only way to apply this patch is to recompile the entire OS, and go through all the steps above? I dont mind doing all this since it will give me a chance to learn, its just that the more steps I have to take, the more chances there are for mistakes. I want to be sure that the way I plan to do the update is the simplest. Im only familiar with Windows, where you just push a button to apply a security patch and you dont even have to reboot the server, so I was thinking that I may be misunderstanding what Im reading. Thanks very much for your time and any info Kyle
rxterm replacement
In my delving into the OpenBSD system and using Xorg, I noticed that .fvwmrc contains references to rsh, rxterm, and rxvt. Replacing rsh with ssh and rxvt with xterm was easy. However creating a replacement for the rxterm not so much. From the information I was able to gather, rxterm is a shell script that creates a remote xterm (duh). The .fvwmrc line could easily be replaced with 'Exec ssh [remotehost] xterm -display $HOSTDISPLAY ' but that would defeat the intent of the original line. I have not been able in my admittedly limited search of openbsd.org and google to find a shell script that has replaced rxterm. Is there one? My intent is to provide a diff of the current .fvwmrc with references to the insecure rsh etc stuff replaced with ssh alternatives.
Re: missing clue regarding IPv6, vlans bridging
dermiste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) from curry, I try to ping6 debruijn, but it says host unreachable 2) from debruijn, I try to ping6 curry, and it works. 3) from curry, I try to ping6 debruijn, and it works. This is very typical of multicast reception failing on one box (debruijn in your case). At step 1, curry sends a neighor solicitation message by multicast, so it can map the IPv6 address to the link layer address, but debruijn doesn't see the packet and fails to respond. At step 2, everything works in the opposite direction, and debruijn caches curry's address and proceeds to use it in step 3. Link-local v6 addresses also work fine because they don't involve neighbor discovery. I tcpdump'ed hme0, vlan0 and bridge0 during curry boot, and the packets flow through all 3, showing DHCP on vlan1 and rtadv on vlan0 + bridge0. Hmm. The router solicitation message curry sends is also a multicast packet. You might want to track its way. I really can't see what's wrong with my setup, clues anyone ? Not sure. What happens if you put an IPv6 address on debruijn's vlan0 interface and try to ping6 that address? -- Christian naddy Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it necessary to recompile just to apply a security patch?
Hi skogzort, Nick Guenther wrote on Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 01:05:52PM -0400: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:41 AM, skogzort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know nothing/very little about OpenBSD or UNIX. I have been tasked with updating our OpenBSD DNS server with a security fix (Vulnerability Note VU#800113- Multiple DNS implementations vulnerable to cache poisoning). That doesn't sound all too well. You have an OpenBSD server, but you have nobody knowing more than very little about UNIX? UNIX is easier to administer than Windows, but some learning will be required... Quite probably, your server might be terribly out of date. OpenBSD servers ought to be updated at least once a year. Please look at the first line of the output of dmesg(8). If the version number is lower than OpenBSD 4.2, you should upgrade the base system before applying patches. In any case, you should establish a process for regular updates of the server. The best times to update are in May and November, just after the -stable releases. In my experience, updating twice a year is easier and less risky than just once: You get used to it. Regularly ordering the CDs and just upgrading from CD is the most convenient way to go. If your task is to maintain that server, carefully read http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/etc/root/root.mail?rev=HEAD Have a quick look at the resources referenced there, just to get an impression what is available. The man pages, the FAQ and afterboot(8) are particularly useful. In order to do this it appears that I have to download the source code re-compile the entire OS. Recompiling the OS seems to involve a lot of steps. Don't compile the whole system from source unless you are actively hacking on the base system (which clearly you aren't) or unless you want to track -current using a single build for multiple servers. As others told you, each errata patch contains instructions what exactly must be rebuilt, and how. you dont even have to reboot the server, That's indeed true in the present case, yes. After patching named, you must restart named, but rebooting would be useless. Of course, kernel patches require rebooting - which applies to Windows machines as well, by the way. ;-) Nick wrote: OpenBSD is mostly designed as a monolithic kernel. Please stop spreading misleading advice. This has nothing to do with the kernel. (Hopefully, skogzort didn't start building kernels yet.) Yours, Ingo -- Ingo Schwarze [EMAIL PROTECTED] usta.de / studis.de system operation *** Can we get a bind9 kernel module for OpenBSD any time soon? ***
Multiboot Windows XP + OpenBSD doesnt work
I want a dualboot with windows xp, and for this I used the FAQ http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting, but when I run the command installboot i get only ksh: installboot: not found and when I execute dd if=/dev/rsd0a of=openbsd.pbr bs=512 count=1 I get only dd: /dev/rsd0a: Device not configured can someone help me? --thacrazze
free plot software
Hi, do you know of a command-line, active, FREE programme to produce scientific plots? I am getting more and more used to gnuplot, but I don't like their conditions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnuplot#License I have read something about gri, but it doesn't seem to be as powerful as gnuplot is, and the license is, well, gpl. There are some other gpl-lincesed projects but they look either not active or not well-advanced, or are GUI-specific, as grace is. Supermongo -which I used in the past- is not very freedom-friendly and I don't like the ps result: Everything is converted into a curve, included the labels (letters). This makes very difficult the (potential) per-hand edition/modification of the ps. Just asking. Thanks in advance. Pau
Re: free plot software
* Pau wrote: Hi, do you know of a command-line, active, FREE programme to produce scientific plots? I am getting more and more used to gnuplot, but I don't like their conditions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnuplot#License I have read something about gri, but it doesn't seem to be as powerful as gnuplot is, and the license is, well, gpl. There are some other gpl-lincesed projects but they look either not active or not well-advanced, or are GUI-specific, as grace is. I suggest that you try out R. It is in ports, math/R and I use it a lot for statistics and graphing. Supermongo -which I used in the past- is not very freedom-friendly and I don't like the ps result: Everything is converted into a curve, included the labels (letters). This makes very difficult the (potential) per-hand edition/modification of the ps. Just asking. Thanks in advance. Pau
Re: missing clue regarding IPv6, vlans bridging
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 09:16:21PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: | dermiste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | 1) from curry, I try to ping6 debruijn, but it says host unreachable | 2) from debruijn, I try to ping6 curry, and it works. | 3) from curry, I try to ping6 debruijn, and it works. | | This is very typical of multicast reception failing on one box | (debruijn in your case). | | At step 1, curry sends a neighor solicitation message by multicast, | so it can map the IPv6 address to the link layer address, but | debruijn doesn't see the packet and fails to respond. At step 2, | everything works in the opposite direction, and debruijn caches | curry's address and proceeds to use it in step 3. | | Link-local v6 addresses also work fine because they don't involve | neighbor discovery. Uhm, why ? 23:37:41.664994 00:0c:29:e5:f9:24 33:33:ff:ff:4d:0d 86dd 86: fe80::20c:29ff:fee5:f924 ff02::1::4d0d: icmp6: neighbor sol: who has fe80::20c:29ff:feff:4d0d(src lladdr: 00:0c:29:e5:f9:24) (len 32, hlim 255) How would you determine the linklayer address of your neighbour without neighbor discovery ? Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
iwi(4) does not work with latest snapshot
Hi misc, iwi(4) does not work, it worked well with 4.3: iwi0: timeout waiting for ucode to initialize iwi0: could not load microcode iwi0: fatal firmware error iwi0: timeout waiting for firmware initialization to complete iwi0: could not load main firmware Regards, Andrea Parazzini OpenBSD 4.4-beta (GENERIC) #991: Sun Jul 27 19:14:07 MDT 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.73 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,TM,SBF,EST,TM2 real mem = 1064738816 (1015MB) avail mem = 1021317120 (974MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/27/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xffe90, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf7810 (60 entries) bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version A04 date 12/27/2005 bios0: Dell Inc. Latitude D510 acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG SSDT SSDT SSDT acpi0: wakeup devices LID_(S3) PBTN(S4) PCI0(S3) USB0(S0) USB1(S0) USB2(S0) USB4(S0) USB3(S0) MODM(S3) PCIE(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (PCIE) acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C3, C2, C1, FVS, 1733, 1333, 1067, 800 MHz acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 102 degC acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model DELL Y13385 serial 5439 type LION oem Sanyo acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT1 not present acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_ acpibtn1 at acpi0: PBTN acpibtn2 at acpi0: SBTN acpidock at acpi0 not configured acpivideo at acpi0 not configured acpivideo at acpi0 not configured bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xf800! 0xcf800/0x800 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82915GM Host rev 0x03 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82915GM Video rev 0x03 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) agp0 at vga1: aperture at 0xc000, size 0x1000 Intel 82915GM Video rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: irq 11 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: irq 10 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: irq 9 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: irq 5 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: irq 11 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb0 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0xd3 pci1 at ppb0 bus 2 bce0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Broadcom BCM4401B1 rev 0x02: irq 9, address 00:14:22:b5:6f:99 bmtphy0 at bce0 phy 1: BCM4401 10/100baseTX PHY, rev. 0 cbb0 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 TI PCI6515 CardBus rev 0x00: irq 5 vendor TI, unknown product 0x8037 (class serial bus subclass Firewire, rev 0x00) at pci1 dev 1 function 2 not configured iwi0 at pci1 dev 3 function 0 Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG rev 0x05: irq 10, address 00:13:ce:50:9c:37 cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 3 device 0 cacheline 0x10, lattimer 0x20 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 auich0 at pci0 dev 30 function 2 Intel 82801FB AC97 rev 0x03: irq 11, ICH6 AC97 ac97: codec id 0x83847652 (SigmaTel STAC9752/53) ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, 20 bit ADC, SigmaTel 3D audio0 at auich0 Intel 82801FB Modem rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 30 function 3 not configured ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801FBM LPC rev 0x03: PM disabled pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801FBM SATA rev 0x03: DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: Hitachi HTS541040G9AT00 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 38154MB, 78140160 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets, initiator 7 cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: TSSTcorp, CDRW/DVD TSL462C, DE01 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub4 at usb4 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at ichpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 biomask ef65 netmask ef65 ttymask mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support wi0 at pcmcia0
Re: FAQ License?
The BSD Documentation License see http://bsdinstall.de/misc/license.txt
Re: Multiboot Windows XP + OpenBSD doesnt work
My /etc/fstab /dev/wd0a / ffs rw 1 1 /dev/wd0h /home ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2 /dev/wd0d /tmp ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2 /dev/wd0g /usr ffs rw,nodev 1 2 /dev/wd0e /var ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2 # fdisk wd0 Disk: wd0 geometry: 3916/255/63 [62914560 Sectors] Offset: 0 Signature: 0xAA55 Starting Ending LBA Info: #: id C H S - C H S [ start:size ] --- 0: 07 0 1 1 - 1274 254 63 [ 63:20482812 ] HPFS/QNX/AUX *1: A6 1275 0 1 - 3915 254 63 [20482875:42427665 ] OpenBSD 2: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused 3: 00 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 [ 0: 0 ] unused On 7/29/08, thacrazze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want a dualboot with windows xp, and for this I used the FAQ http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting, but when I run the command installboot i get only ksh: installboot: not found and when I execute dd if=/dev/rsd0a of=openbsd.pbr bs=512 count=1 I get only dd: /dev/rsd0a: Device not configured can someone help me? --thacrazze
Re: Multiboot Windows XP + OpenBSD doesnt work
On 7/29/08, thacrazze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want a dualboot with windows xp, and for this I used the FAQ http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting, but when I run the command installboot i get only ksh: installboot: not found and when I execute dd if=/dev/rsd0a of=openbsd.pbr bs=512 count=1 I get only dd: /dev/rsd0a: Device not configured can someone help me? don't copy commands from a web page and run them without thinking. first off, installboot probably already ran, but installboot is definitely not the right way to run it. second, you need to figure out what kind of disk you installed on. if you included dmesg, somebody could tell you, but it's going to be wd.
Re: FAQ License?
On 7/29/08, thacrazze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The BSD Documentation License see http://bsdinstall.de/misc/license.txt No, that's not the license for the FAQ.
Re: Multiboot Windows XP + OpenBSD doesnt work
2008/7/29, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 7/29/08, thacrazze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want a dualboot with windows xp, and for this I used the FAQ http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting, but when I run the command installboot i get only ksh: installboot: not found and when I execute dd if=/dev/rsd0a of=openbsd.pbr bs=512 count=1 I get only dd: /dev/rsd0a: Device not configured can someone help me? don't copy commands from a web page and run them without thinking. first off, installboot probably already ran, but installboot is definitely not the right way to run it. second, you need to figure out what kind of disk you installed on. if you included dmesg, somebody could tell you, but it's going to be wd. Note: this is a really good time to remind you that blindly typing commands in you don't understand is a really bad idea. This line will not work directly on most computers. It is left to the reader to adapt it to their machine. from: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting try: dd if=/dev/rwd0a of=openbsd.pbr bs=512 count=1
Re: Multiboot Windows XP + OpenBSD doesnt work
Thanks! That works! --thacrazze On 7/30/08, Alicornio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/29, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 7/29/08, thacrazze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want a dualboot with windows xp, and for this I used the FAQ http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting, but when I run the command installboot i get only ksh: installboot: not found and when I execute dd if=/dev/rsd0a of=openbsd.pbr bs=512 count=1 I get only dd: /dev/rsd0a: Device not configured can someone help me? don't copy commands from a web page and run them without thinking. first off, installboot probably already ran, but installboot is definitely not the right way to run it. second, you need to figure out what kind of disk you installed on. if you included dmesg, somebody could tell you, but it's going to be wd. Note: this is a really good time to remind you that blindly typing commands in you don't understand is a really bad idea. This line will not work directly on most computers. It is left to the reader to adapt it to their machine. from: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting try: dd if=/dev/rwd0a of=openbsd.pbr bs=512 count=1
Re: Multiboot Windows XP + OpenBSD doesnt work
OpenBSD 4.3 (GENERIC) #698: Wed Mar 12 11:07:05 MDT 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6420 @ 2.13GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.14 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,PGE,CMOV,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2, MWAIT real mem = 536375296 (511MB) avail mem = 510599168 (486MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 06/23/99, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfad60 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: APM engage (device 1): unknown error code? (83) apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x0 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfb0a0/192 (10 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:01:0 (Intel 82371SB ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8e00 0xe2000/0x1000 cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82441FX rev 0x02 pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82371SB ISA rev 0x00 pciide0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 Intel 82371AB IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 co nfigured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: VBOX HARDDISK wd0: 128-sector PIO, LBA, 30720MB, 62914560 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: VBOX, CD-ROM, 1.0 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 InnoTek VirtualBox Graphics Adapter rev 0x00 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) pcn0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 AMD 79c970 PCnet-PCI rev 0x40, Am79c973, rev 0: irq 11, address 08:00:27:d6:f2:cc acphy0 at pcn0 phy 0: AC101 10/100 PHY, rev. 11 ifmedia_set: no match for 0x20/0x InnoTek VirtualBox Guest Service rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 not configu red auich0 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 Intel 82801AA AC97 rev 0x01: irq 9, ICH AC97 ac97: codec id 0x83847600 (SigmaTel STAC9700) audio0 at auich0 ohci0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 Apple Intrepid USB rev 0x00: irq 5, version 1.0 piixpm0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 Intel 82371AB Power rev 0x08: SMBus disabled ehci0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x00: irq 11 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pmsi0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pmsi0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec fd1 at fdc0 drive 1: density unknown usb1 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Apple OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 biomask edfd netmask edfd ttymask fdff softraid0 at root root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b auich0: measured ac97 link rate at 22020 Hz, will use 48000 Hz On 7/30/08, Alicornio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/29, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 7/29/08, thacrazze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want a dualboot with windows xp, and for this I used the FAQ http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting, but when I run the command installboot i get only ksh: installboot: not found and when I execute dd if=/dev/rsd0a of=openbsd.pbr bs=512 count=1 I get only dd: /dev/rsd0a: Device not configured can someone help me? don't copy commands from a web page and run them without thinking. first off, installboot probably already ran, but installboot is definitely not the right way to run it. second, you need to figure out what kind of disk you installed on. if you included dmesg, somebody could tell you, but it's going to be wd. Note: this is a really good time to remind you that blindly typing commands in you don't understand is a really bad idea. This line will not work directly on most computers. It is left to the reader to adapt it to their machine. from: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting try: dd if=/dev/rwd0a of=openbsd.pbr bs=512 count=1
Re: missing clue regarding IPv6, vlans bridging
Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Link-local v6 addresses also work fine because they don't involve | neighbor discovery. Uhm, why ? 23:37:41.664994 00:0c:29:e5:f9:24 33:33:ff:ff:4d:0d 86dd 86: fe80::20c:29ff:fee5:f924 ff02::1::4d0d: icmp6: neighbor sol: who has fe80::20c:29ff:feff:4d0d(src lladdr: 00:0c:29:e5:f9:24) (len 32, hlim 255) I stand corrected. How would you determine the linklayer address of your neighbour without neighbor discovery ? Well, you could, since the link-local address is reversibly constructed from the link-layer address. On further reflection, I realize that not all the world is ethernet and this relation might not be true for other types of interfaces. Vexingly, I seem to remember that at one time I actually verified this behavior. I must have made a mistake then. My interest was the influence of neighbor discovery on NTP. Some fresh tcpdumping here shows that the typical packet exchange goes like this: 0 sec NTP request --- - NTP reply +5 sec neighbor sol -- -- neighbor adv -- neighbor sol neighbor adv -- That seems counterintuitive, but it is nice for NTP. -- Christian naddy Weisgerber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spamd stopped logging
Hello I was able to reproduce this problem on second OpenBSD 4.2 Stable box. spamd was logging all verbose information until I installed 013: SECURITY FIX for Bind issue. Before patch activation, I was able to see messages like this: Jul 30 00:35:02 maronet spamd[12359]: (GREY) 146.164.48.5: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] These messages are not logged anymore. Can anyone reproduce it too? Thank you MK - Original Message - From: mk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: misc@openbsd.org Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 2:48 PM Subject: spamd stopped logging Hello all I've found that my spamd on OpenBSD 4.2 stable box stopped logging information provided by -v flag. I did not make any changes on my box in last few days at least I think. (except named build) It was working without any problem for several months. Now, all I can get from spamd into my log file is that daemon started, that's all. my syslog.conf !spamd daemon.err;daemon.warn;daemon.info /var/log/spamd /var/log/spamd exists, but spamd writes there only these messages: Jul 27 11:57:19 sra spamd[3752]: listening for incoming connections I'm starting spamd this way: spamd_flags=-v -G5:4:864 I tried to restart it manually also with syslogd but nothing changed. Thanks for any hint. MK
Re: Multiboot Windows XP + OpenBSD doesnt work
I put the openbsd.pbr to C: and made an entry in the C:/boot.ini After a reboot I can select the OpenBSD boot entry, but it doesn't starts I get only a black screen with some cryptical characters/symbols Then I testet in Windows BootPart, which was recommended in the FAQ and that says: Physical numer of disk 0 : 33fa33f9 0 : C:* type=7 HPFS/NTFS, size=10241406 KB, Lba Pos=63 1: C: type=a6 , size= 21213832 KB, Lba Pos=20482875 Can someone help me how to start OpenBSD correctly? --thacrazze On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:30 AM, thacrazze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! That works! --thacrazze On 7/30/08, Alicornio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/29, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 7/29/08, thacrazze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want a dualboot with windows xp, and for this I used the FAQ http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting, but when I run the command installboot i get only ksh: installboot: not found and when I execute dd if=/dev/rsd0a of=openbsd.pbr bs=512 count=1 I get only dd: /dev/rsd0a: Device not configured can someone help me? don't copy commands from a web page and run them without thinking. first off, installboot probably already ran, but installboot is definitely not the right way to run it. second, you need to figure out what kind of disk you installed on. if you included dmesg, somebody could tell you, but it's going to be wd. Note: this is a really good time to remind you that blindly typing commands in you don't understand is a really bad idea. This line will not work directly on most computers. It is left to the reader to adapt it to their machine. from: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting try: dd if=/dev/rwd0a of=openbsd.pbr bs=512 count=1
Re: Is it necessary to recompile just to apply a security patch?
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Ingo Schwarze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snippage] Quite probably, your server might be terribly out of date. OpenBSD servers ought to be updated at least once a year. Please look at the first line of the output of dmesg(8). If the server has been up for a while, the circular buffer may have been over-written. Try: head -1 /var/run/dmesg.boot If the version number is lower than OpenBSD 4.2, you should upgrade the base system before applying patches.
Re: Multiboot Windows XP + OpenBSD doesnt work
--- thacrazze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I put the openbsd.pbr to C: and made an entry in the C:/boot.ini After a reboot I can select the OpenBSD boot entry, but it doesn't starts I get only a black screen with some cryptical characters/symbols Then I testet in Windows BootPart, which was recommended in the FAQ and that says: Physical numer of disk 0 : 33fa33f9 0 : C:* type=7 HPFS/NTFS, size=10241406 KB, Lba Pos=63 1: C: type=a6 , size= 21213832 KB, Lba Pos=20482875 Can someone help me how to start OpenBSD correctly? OpenBSD partition must be active (flag) and try using GAG software. http://gag.sourceforge.net I'm using OpenBSD 4.4 Beta and XP together. Regards. --thacrazze On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:30 AM, thacrazze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks! That works! --thacrazze On 7/30/08, Alicornio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/29, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 7/29/08, thacrazze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want a dualboot with windows xp, and for this I used the FAQ http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting, but when I run the command installboot i get only ksh: installboot: not found and when I execute dd if=/dev/rsd0a of=openbsd.pbr bs=512 count=1 I get only dd: /dev/rsd0a: Device not configured can someone help me? don't copy commands from a web page and run them without thinking. first off, installboot probably already ran, but installboot is definitely not the right way to run it. second, you need to figure out what kind of disk you installed on. if you included dmesg, somebody could tell you, but it's going to be wd. Note: this is a really good time to remind you that blindly typing commands in you don't understand is a really bad idea. This line will not work directly on most computers. It is left to the reader to adapt it to their machine. from: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting try: dd if=/dev/rwd0a of=openbsd.pbr bs=512 count=1 --- Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come! - 2 Corinthians 5:17 (NIV) --- Francisco Valladolid Hdez. http://blog.bsdguy.net - http://flickr.com/photos/sigueme/
Re: OpenBSD 4.3 FAQ in PDF?
my mail wrote: i don't have 24 hours connection at home, and want read FAQ OpenBSD 4.3 in PDF format. in this address i can read 4.3 FAQ http://openbsd.org/faq/index.html but when i try to download from pub/OpenBSD/doc at FTP mirrors, this FAQ for 4.2 version not for 4.3 where i can download 4.3 FAQ in PDF format? thx I've put up a 4.3 version of the FAQ in PDF and text formats a day or two ago, it's out on the mirrors now, the PF user's guide was just uploaded, so give it a day or so to reach your favorite mirror. I still wonder if the occasional people asking for PDFs are actually from Adobe, trying to make people think people actually LIKE reading documents in PDF format. The idea is not bad, but the readers suck (in my opinion, of course). Personally, I'd suggest checking out the www/ tree to your local machine, then pointing your browser at the checkout. That way, when you find an error, correct it, do a cvs diff -u, send it to us, and make things better. :) However, to each their own. That's why I spin the PDFs. It's a pain, that's why I spin 'em rarely. :) Nick.
Re: free plot software
Hi Pau, You might like to look at the Generic Mapping Tools: http://gmt.soest.hawaii.edu/ GMT is a collection of UNIX utilities for making scientific plots (with a particular focus on geophysics, but widely used elsewhere). I think it meets all your requirements of being command line driven, active and free. Cheers, Tim. Hi, do you know of a command-line, active, FREE programme to produce scientific plots? I am getting more and more used to gnuplot, but I don't like their conditions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnuplot#License I have read something about gri, but it doesn't seem to be as powerful as gnuplot is, and the license is, well, gpl. There are some other gpl-lincesed projects but they look either not active or not well-advanced, or are GUI-specific, as grace is. Supermongo -which I used in the past- is not very freedom-friendly and I don't like the ps result: Everything is converted into a curve, included the labels (letters). This makes very difficult the (potential) per-hand edition/modification of the ps. Just asking. Thanks in advance. Pau
Re: OpenBSD 4.3 FAQ in PDF?
-- On Wed, 7/30/08, Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OpenBSD 4.3 FAQ in PDF? I've put up a 4.3 version of the FAQ in PDF and text formats a day or two ago, it's out on the mirrors now, the PF user's guide was just uploaded, so give it a day or so to reach your favorite mirror. I still wonder if the occasional people asking for PDFs are actually from Adobe, trying to make people think people actually LIKE reading documents in PDF format. The idea is not bad, but the readers suck (in my opinion, of course). Personally, I'd suggest checking out the www/ tree to your local machine, then pointing your browser at the checkout. That way, when you find an error, correct it, do a cvs diff -u, send it to us, and make things better. :) However, to each their own. That's why I spin the PDFs. It's a pain, that's why I spin 'em rarely. :) Nick. hi Nick, thx for you great work, really apreciate that. Yes I know, Adobe reader is to slow and to much memory usage, but i like read using XPDF no Adobe Reader thanks again for this PDF
Re: Is it necessary to recompile just to apply a security patch?
On Wednesday 30 July 2008, Andrew Dalgleish wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Ingo Schwarze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snippage] Quite probably, your server might be terribly out of date. OpenBSD servers ought to be updated at least once a year. Please look at the first line of the output of dmesg(8). If the server has been up for a while, the circular buffer may have been over-written. Try: head -1 /var/run/dmesg.boot Or: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 64]$ uname -a OpenBSD wombat.sing.id.au 4.4 GENERIC#73 sgi Or: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 63]$ config -e /bsd OpenBSD 4.4-beta (GENERIC) #73: Tue Jul 29 00:16:10 EST 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/sgi/compile/GENERIC warning: no output file specified Enter 'help' for information ukc quit If the version number is lower than OpenBSD 4.2, you should upgrade the base system before applying patches. -- = Joel Sing | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 0419 577 603 = Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time. - Terry Pratchett, Hogfather
Re: atheros - just curious, ot
* Reyk Floeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-07-28 09:53:58]: Actually, I'm confused. It carries an ISC license with an Atheros copyright. Luis Rodriguez (madwifi/ath5k) and Jouni Malinen (Linux Prism2 HostAP) are working for Atheros now. The code seems to include open source HAL-code, there is no binary blob. The only missing thing is the documentation, but even the existing driver might help to port it to OpenBSD. Actually, the ath9k stuff is very similar to ath5k which is indeed based on my ar5k driver (OpenBSD ath(4))... too bad that Atheros did not decide to use a copyright like Copyright (c) 2008 Atheros Communications Inc. Copyright (c) 2004-2007 Reyk Floeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] They neither apologized for all the trouble nor give me any credits for my work. ath9k would not exist without my work on the OpenBSD ar5k driver, it was a door opener, the base of the ath5k port, and Atheros' way into the Linux kernel. It was the reason why Luis Rodriguez got his new job. It might help Atheros to gain market shares again, after they lost so many to more open companies like Ralink Tech. Didn't someone mention they even used license.template? What's up with that? Why is this code ISC licensed anyhow? I suppose it's a bit off-topic but I was under the impression that Torvalds only _wants_ *wink* GPL code. Perhaps they're keeping ISC around to placate Reyk or perhaps make themselves feel less guilty? Despite the licensing, I'm sure it will be bundled with every linux distro out there regardless. Most of those guys just don't seem to care what the license is let alone actually understand it. Perhaps it's less of an open source push than it is for market share. That might explain the choice of ISC--more adoption, albeit painful if you don't like magic. Atheros must like magic, they could have just seded the explicitives out of their docs and put them on an ftp. They would not have needed to pay anybody and it would have taken less time. This has nothing to do about opening up--they want more market share. Incidentally, how many 802.11 stacks does linux have now? -- Travers Buda
Re: Is it necessary to recompile just to apply a security patch?
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Ingo Schwarze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick wrote: OpenBSD is mostly designed as a monolithic kernel. Please stop spreading misleading advice. This has nothing to do with the kernel. (Hopefully, skogzort didn't start building kernels yet.) Sorry. I didn't read what his specific task was, I just read oh noes recompile :(?. I jumped on trying to ease him into OpenBSD instead of scaring him off. -Nick
Re: Is it necessary to recompile just to apply a security patch?
how about this: uname -a or this: head -1 /etc/motd -- John Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Please look at the first line of the output of dmesg(8). If the server has been up for a while, the circular buffer may have been over-written. Try: head -1 /var/run/dmesg.boot
