Re: What does your environment look like?
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Tomas Bodzar wrote: > You have Skype running > Yup :-) No Voice only chat :-( I need it so that others in one of the companies I work for can contact me in case of trouble., I wrote a howto on that here. http://www.mail-archive.com/bsd-in...@bsd-india.org/msg00350.html hope this helps :-) --Siju
Re: What does your environment look like?
You have Skype running On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Siju George wrote: > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Brynet wrote: do you >> B embrace minimalism or pure aesthetics? >> > > Minimalism on servers. On desktops some aesthetics. > >> * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like >> cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? >> > > fvwm2 but going to change to enlightenment. > >> * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar >> applets? personal customizations? >> > > customize fvwm2 to start certain programs in certain pages of desktops. > >> * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? >> > > Yes I use the same config files for other desktops too. > >> * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post >> screenshots or actual workspace photos? >> > > fvwm2 with 16 pages > > http://picasaweb.google.com/sgeorge.ml/OpenBSDDesktop#5384519398011727266 > > > --Siju > > -- http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Brynet wrote: do you > embrace minimalism or pure aesthetics? > Minimalism on servers. On desktops some aesthetics. > * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like > cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? > fvwm2 but going to change to enlightenment. > * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar > applets? personal customizations? > customize fvwm2 to start certain programs in certain pages of desktops. > * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? > Yes I use the same config files for other desktops too. > * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post > screenshots or actual workspace photos? > fvwm2 with 16 pages http://picasaweb.google.com/sgeorge.ml/OpenBSDDesktop#5384519398011727266 --Siju
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010, Brynet wrote: > Hi, > > I know not everyone uses OpenBSD for a desktop OS, but I have been for > nearly 5 years and I'm quite curious about some of your opinions? do you > embrace minimalism or pure aesthetics? are the two mutually exclusive? > > When I started using OpenBSD (..around 3.7) I was frequently switching > between window managers, tweaking.. but for 2 years now I've been using > fluxbox and I believe I'm comfortable with it. > > * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like > cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? I'm using OpenBSD since a couple of years. I was using ion, then switched to dwm not long ago, and find it kind of my ideal wm. > * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar > applets? personal customizations? roxterm/mlterm (easier with multilanguage and widechar, scim etc. but roxterm is real slow!), alpine (could never get mutt to work properly with unicode, so gave up), mpd/ncmpc, mplayer, w3m/firefox/lynx, pidgin, vim, texlive, abiword (sic!), xpdf/acroread, feh postgresql/psql/pgadmin3 I guess that's about all I need. > * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? I only have one:) > * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post > screenshots or actual workspace photos? http://imagebin.ca/view/RK07pI.html with external monitor attached on my laptop with "xrandr --output LVDS --auto --output VGA --auto --right-of LVDS" > > I realize none of this may be relevant or even useful, but I figured it > was worth asking here anyway. b There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge.b Bertrand Russell > > Anyone feel like humouring me? :-) > > Thanks. > -Bryan.
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:38:58AM -0500, Jeremy O'Brien wrote: > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 09:08:38PM -0500, Brynet wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I know not everyone uses OpenBSD for a desktop OS, but I have been for > > nearly 5 years and I'm quite curious about some of your opinions? do you > > embrace minimalism or pure aesthetics? are the two mutually exclusive? > > > > When I started using OpenBSD (..around 3.7) I was frequently switching > > between window managers, tweaking.. but for 2 years now I've been using > > fluxbox and I believe I'm comfortable with it. > > > > * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like > > cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? > > xmonad after spending a lot of time getting ghc 6.10 set up. > > > * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar > > applets? personal customizations? > > -xmobar with CPU, battery, and fuzzy clock for statusbar > -mutt > -git for config syncing > -firefox > -tmux > -irssi > -mpd/pms > > > * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? > > * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post > > screenshots or actual workspace photos? > > I always use the same programs, and the configs are generally the same > with machine-specific customizations tracked in my various git branches. > > Typical screenshot: http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu/~jeremy/obsd-screen.png > > > > > I realize none of this may be relevant or even useful, but I figured it > > was worth asking here anyway. > > > > Anyone feel like humouring me? :-) > > > > Thanks. > > -Bryan. > > I bounce between base + scrotwm, mutt, irssi, ssvnc and firefox to do what I need to do, and a full Gnome environment (with some keyboard fudging to closer match scrotwm bindings) when I get the bling itch. I find scrotwm wonderful, and the maintainers of Gnome on OpenBSD have done wonders as well. Thanks to all.
Re: What does your environment look like?
"Jeremy O'Brien" writes: > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 09:08:38PM -0500, Brynet wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I know not everyone uses OpenBSD for a desktop OS, but I have been for > > nearly 5 years and I'm quite curious about some of your opinions? do you > > embrace minimalism or pure aesthetics? are the two mutually exclusive? > > > > When I started using OpenBSD (..around 3.7) I was frequently switching > > between window managers, tweaking.. but for 2 years now I've been using > > fluxbox and I believe I'm comfortable with it. > > > > * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like > > cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? > > xmonad after spending a lot of time getting ghc 6.10 set up. They was a work in progress for that. Sad that it does not finish, and that the experimental port is not available anymore. http://www.mail-archive.com/po...@openbsd.org/msg20144.html I use xmonad too. > > * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar > > applets? personal customizations? xfce-panel, uxterms, gajim, gmpc, mpd, mplayer, irssi, screen (I have to test tmux), midori or firefox, emacs or (original) vi, xcompmgr, unclutter. > > * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? Not really. I have some config file for some special apps on a server, as .emacs, .gtkrc-2.0, .screen, .Xdefaults, .xmonad. > > * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post > > screenshots or actual workspace photos? I do not have any openbsd screenshot, But it is almost the same as my linux. Here is a screenshot. Maybe I'll update it this evening with an openbsd one. http://texitoi.eu/~texitoi/screenshot.png -- Guillaume Pinot http://www.irccyn.ec-nantes.fr/~pinot/ + Les grandes personnes ne comprennent jamais rien toutes seules, et c'est fatigant, pour les enfants, de toujours leur donner des explications... ; -- Antoine de Saint-Exupiry, Le Petit Prince () ASCII ribbon campaign -- Against HTML e-mail /\ http://www.asciiribbon.org -- Against proprietary attachments
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 09:08:38PM -0500, Brynet wrote: > Hi, > > I know not everyone uses OpenBSD for a desktop OS, but I have been for > nearly 5 years and I'm quite curious about some of your opinions? do you > embrace minimalism or pure aesthetics? are the two mutually exclusive? > > When I started using OpenBSD (..around 3.7) I was frequently switching > between window managers, tweaking.. but for 2 years now I've been using > fluxbox and I believe I'm comfortable with it. > > * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like > cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? xmonad after spending a lot of time getting ghc 6.10 set up. > * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar > applets? personal customizations? -xmobar with CPU, battery, and fuzzy clock for statusbar -mutt -git for config syncing -firefox -tmux -irssi -mpd/pms > * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? > * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post > screenshots or actual workspace photos? I always use the same programs, and the configs are generally the same with machine-specific customizations tracked in my various git branches. Typical screenshot: http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu/~jeremy/obsd-screen.png > > I realize none of this may be relevant or even useful, but I figured it > was worth asking here anyway. > > Anyone feel like humouring me? :-) > > Thanks. > -Bryan.
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:08:38 -0500 Brynet wrote: > I know not everyone uses OpenBSD for a desktop OS, but I > have been for nearly 5 years and I'm quite curious about > some of your opinions? do you embrace minimalism or pure > aesthetics? are the two mutually exclusive? I would except that I never got it to work with my dual monitor card on my primary desktop machine. So I use Linux for the monitor and when I need to, I use the X display manager to log onto an OpenBSD machine. That essentially gives me dual monitors on both. > * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like > cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? Windowmaker on everything. Eric
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 22:13:24 -0800 Gerald Chudyk wrote: > > Who'd have thought thirty years ago we'd all be sittin' here > > alt-tabin' between xterms with a windowmanager of our choice! > > > > In them days we was glad to have little rectangular pieces of paper > > (wet paper!) and would move them on our desk (at least those lucky > > bastards who had a desk! a broken desk that is) and point a pencil > > (with no grafit) into to the one we wanted to write in. > > > > And you try and tell the young people of today that > > . they won't believe you. > > > > > > Not me. Thirty years ago I was introduced to the NCR 8250. We could > hunt for wumpuses or write code or process batch files from our > customers. A couple of years later the NCR tech amazed us by switching > the console from white to a black background. This let us play > wumpuses a lot longer without the usual eye fatigue. Sadly our > customers never really noticed any productivity gain. > http://xkcd.com/378/ -- J.C. Roberts
Re: What does your environment look like?
> Who'd have thought thirty years ago we'd all be sittin' here > alt-tabin' between xterms with a windowmanager of our choice! > > In them days we was glad to have little rectangular pieces of paper > (wet paper!) and would move them on our desk (at least those lucky > bastards who had a desk! a broken desk that is) and point a pencil > (with no grafit) into to the one we wanted to write in. > > And you try and tell the young people of today that > . they won't believe you. > > Not me. Thirty years ago I was introduced to the NCR 8250. We could hunt for wumpuses or write code or process batch files from our customers. A couple of years later the NCR tech amazed us by switching the console from white to a black background. This let us play wumpuses a lot longer without the usual eye fatigue. Sadly our customers never really noticed any productivity gain.
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 09:41 +0100, Manuel Giraud wrote: > Peter Miller writes: > > > I saved and re-use my config files everywhere. All my files stay on 1 > > usb drive that I plug in to whatever cpu i'm using. I keep it backed > > up. > > I'm curious about how you deal with that. I have the same annoying > problem of little differences in config files from system to system. Do > you make this usb drive your home, or rsync, or what? > > I've once setup an usb thumb drive with a complete OpenBSD and boot on > it everywhere I can but the writes were so slow that the thing is barely > usable (I think I might try it with an external HD). > For normal files, I mount the usb drive /mnt/whatever and create a bookmark to it or set the file manager to start there by default. Sometimes i use /home/pete/temp (on the main hard disk) and then move all the files once at the end of the day to the external disk. As for the config files, i try to use the same files on all systems. When that isn't possible i create .tcshrc-base and .tcshrc-obsd-add with the extra lines i need. Then i copy and paste the contents of -add into -base as needed (i could use patch). Or i make 2 separate files, .tcshrc-server and .tcshrc-laptop These files are kept on the usb drive and copied into my /home once, after a fresh install. It's pretty easy with a -server and -laptop version. rsync is overkill. -- Later Peter
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: > :-) > > you academic types are always busy, eh? hah, only when the end-o-term is upon me, and suddenly students are so very interested in their low, low grades... it's more "the getting-married-soon" types are busy. :)
Re: What does your environment look like?
:-) you academic types are always busy, eh? On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 12:50:13PM -0500, Ryan Flannery wrote: > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: > > ryan needs to send me a patch to add to the code base... > > > > egads, i had completely forgotten about that... apologies
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: > ryan needs to send me a patch to add to the code base... > egads, i had completely forgotten about that... apologies
Re: What does your environment look like?
ryan needs to send me a patch to add to the code base... On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 06:03:17PM +0100, David Coppa wrote: > This is mine: http://62.94.26.180/2010-01-06-173523_1024x768_scrot.png > > scrotwm 0.9.20 > xstatbar (tweaked by me) > mpd + pms > > cheers, > David
Re: What does your environment look like?
This is mine: http://62.94.26.180/2010-01-06-173523_1024x768_scrot.png scrotwm 0.9.20 xstatbar (tweaked by me) mpd + pms cheers, David
Re: What does your environment look like?
On 15:32 Tue 05 Jan, Jonathan Thornburg wrote:
> Very minimalist:
>
> No xdm -- I login and type 'startx&;logout'.
startx() {
pgrep startx && wsconsctl display.focus=4 \
|| (/usr/X11R6/bin/startx >& ~/.startx.out &)
lock -pn
}
(zsh)
Might be useful and more convinient
Re: What does your environment look like?
On 2010-01-06, Manuel Giraud wrote: > Peter Miller writes: > >> I saved and re-use my config files everywhere. All my files stay on 1 >> usb drive that I plug in to whatever cpu i'm using. I keep it backed >> up. > > I'm curious about how you deal with that. I have the same annoying > problem of little differences in config files from system to system. Keeping your dotfiles in cvs works pretty well for this. http://mongers.org/dot/
Re: What does your environment look like?
> > I know not everyone uses OpenBSD for a desktop OS, but I have been for > > nearly 5 years and I'm quite curious about some of your opinions? do you > > embrace minimalism or pure aesthetics? are the two mutually exclusive? > > > > When I started using OpenBSD (..around 3.7) I was frequently switching > > between window managers, tweaking.. but for 2 years now I've been using > > fluxbox and I believe I'm comfortable with it. > > > > * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like > > cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? > > * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar > > applets? personal customizations? > > * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? > > * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post > > screenshots or actual workspace photos? > > > > I realize none of this may be relevant or even useful, but I figured it > > was worth asking here anyway. > > > > Anyone feel like humouring me? :-) Who'd have thought thirty years ago we'd all be sittin' here alt-tabin' between xterms with a windowmanager of our choice! In them days we was glad to have little rectangular pieces of paper (wet paper!) and would move them on our desk (at least those lucky bastards who had a desk! a broken desk that is) and point a pencil (with no grafit) into to the one we wanted to write in. And you try and tell the young people of today that . they won't believe you.
Re: What does your environment look like?
You can also access my site located in US here http://www.techonia.com/openbsd-4-5-screenshot-using-gnome-window-manager . It must be much faster than the .ID one.. Thanks/regards, FN On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Fuad NAHDI wrote: > I use OpenBSD-Stable with Gnome, triple-booting with Windows 7 and Centos > 5.4 > Some screenshots are here in my website > http://www.katalis.web.id/openbsd-4-5-screenshot-using-gnome-window-manager > > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Brynet wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I know not everyone uses OpenBSD for a desktop OS, but I have been for >> nearly 5 years and I'm quite curious about some of your opinions? do you >> embrace minimalism or pure aesthetics? are the two mutually exclusive? >> >> When I started using OpenBSD (..around 3.7) I was frequently switching >> between window managers, tweaking.. but for 2 years now I've been using >> fluxbox and I believe I'm comfortable with it. >> >> * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like >> cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? >> * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar >> applets? personal customizations? >> * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? >> * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post >> screenshots or actual workspace photos? >> >> I realize none of this may be relevant or even useful, but I figured it >> was worth asking here anyway. >> >> Anyone feel like humouring me? :-) >> >> Thanks. >> -Bryan.
Re: What does your environment look like?
Peter Miller writes: > I saved and re-use my config files everywhere. All my files stay on 1 > usb drive that I plug in to whatever cpu i'm using. I keep it backed > up. I'm curious about how you deal with that. I have the same annoying problem of little differences in config files from system to system. Do you make this usb drive your home, or rsync, or what? I've once setup an usb thumb drive with a complete OpenBSD and boot on it everywhere I can but the writes were so slow that the thing is barely usable (I think I might try it with an external HD). -- Manuel Giraud
Re: What does your environment look like?
I use OpenBSD-Stable with Gnome, triple-booting with Windows 7 and Centos 5.4 Some screenshots are here in my website http://www.katalis.web.id/openbsd-4-5-screenshot-using-gnome-window-manager On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Brynet wrote: > Hi, > > I know not everyone uses OpenBSD for a desktop OS, but I have been for > nearly 5 years and I'm quite curious about some of your opinions? do you > embrace minimalism or pure aesthetics? are the two mutually exclusive? > > When I started using OpenBSD (..around 3.7) I was frequently switching > between window managers, tweaking.. but for 2 years now I've been using > fluxbox and I believe I'm comfortable with it. > > * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like > cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? > * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar > applets? personal customizations? > * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? > * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post > screenshots or actual workspace photos? > > I realize none of this may be relevant or even useful, but I figured it > was worth asking here anyway. > > Anyone feel like humouring me? :-) > > Thanks. > -Bryan.
Re: What does your environment look like?
>> I generally first do:
>>
>> $ grep unclutter /usr/ports/INDEX
>>
> I generally prefer to know as much as I can about something before I try it.
I usually cd /usr/ports ; make install ; find /usr/local/ -perm -g=x -exec {} \;
-B
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 03:32:47PM -0500, Jonathan Thornburg wrote: > Very minimalist: > > No xdm -- I login and type 'startx&;logout'. Use exec startx instead same effect. Cleaner.
Re: What does your environment look like?
Very minimalist: No xdm -- I login and type 'startx&;logout'. Just twm -- it's simple & gets the job done. Multiple desktops might be nice; I've looked at vtwm, ctwm, and tvtwm at one time or another, but never gotten any of them working to the point of usability. My .xinitrc does xsetroot -solid black (I've played with grey15 at times), tweaks mouse parameters, makes caps-lock a control key, then starts: * xclock (analog, since that's more useful than digital for estimating angle-between-hands to answer questions like "how long do I have before I have to stop leave here for a 2:50pm meeting") * xbatt (for laptops) * xmeter (must be compiled from ancient K&R-C source, but it's still less-unnice than any other cpu-load-monitoring program I've seen) * 4 open xterms * a dozen more xterms pre-iconified, * and finally twm itself That's it. No desktop managers, no other bloatware started by default (although I do confess to having firefox (with adblock+noscript) on a twm left-button menu). I have lots of other software installed, but I start it by typing (eg) "openoffice&" from a shell prompt (tcsh). I don't like flashy colors. My typical xterm is xterm -g 80x38+0-0 -bw 4 -fn 7x14 -fg white -bg black -j -rw +s -sl 2000 +sb -si -sk +sf -wf -cm & i.e. the background is black, letters & frame are white. Right now as I'm typing this, the only pixels on my screen which aren't black or white are those in xbatt's battery icon. I've used this same desktop layout since c.1986 on various Suns, SGIs, Linux boxen, and various OpenBSDs. One day around 1993, at an institution which was all SGI desktops (running Irix), my boss walked into my office to talk to one of my officemates. My screen had my usual layout plus a gnuplot window displaying a graph in gnuplot's default first-plot color (red). My boss glanced at the screen, and said (deadpan) "Jonathan, your monitor's broken." I though that was very funny... -- -- "Jonathan Thornburg [remove -animal to reply]" Dept of Astronomy, Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana, USA "Only one carry on? No electronics for the first hour of flight? I wish that, just once, some terrorist would try something that you can only foil by upgrading the passengers to first class and giving them free drinks." -- Bruce Schneier
Re: What does your environment look like?
> * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like > cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? musca, it's easy to configure, and the catchall and dedicate commands are awesome http://aerosuidae.net/musca/Musca_Window_Manager http://aerosuidae.net/musca/Commands#catchall > * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar > applets? personal customizations? dmenu + conky > * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? I saved and re-use my config files everywhere. All my files stay on 1 usb drive that I plug in to whatever cpu i'm using. I keep it backed up. > * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post > screenshots or actual workspace photos? not much to show, the magic is in musca -- Later Peter
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 10:34:07 -0500 Anders Langworthy wrote: > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Brynet wrote: > > * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like > > cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? > > I wasn't going to reply, but I couldn't believe that cwm hasn't > received any love yet. It's glorious. Powerful keyboard control, > neat features, and faster than you need it to be. Its minimalism is > elegant (and absolute) with no window decoration crud to distract or > waste valuable pixels. And it's in base. > > > * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? > > No, but net/rsync is excellent for that purpose. > always -current + cwm + mrxvt + tmux = all what i need. at my netbook xfce or cwm.
Re: What does your environment look like?
Daniel Andersen wrote: > > unclutter > I'm idle enough to google for "unclutter". I hereby thank you for directing > me to yet another great utility. If you just want xterm to be uncluttered, you can simply set XTerm*pointerMode: 1 in your X11 resources. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 02:37:26AM -0600, Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda wrote: > Daniel Andersen wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 09:43:27AM +0300, Andrej Elizarov wrote: > > > > * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar > > > > applets? personal customizations? > > > unclutter > > I'm idle enough to google for "unclutter". I hereby thank you for directing > > me to yet another great utility. > > > > -- > > > > Key ID: 493FB6AE > > Key fingerprint: 3E96 7892 B56D AE27 02EF BBAA BAA6 6C78 493F B6AE > > Keyserver:pgp.mit.edu > > I generally first do: > > $ grep unclutter /usr/ports/INDEX > I generally prefer to know as much as I can about something before I try it. -- Key ID: 493FB6AE Key fingerprint: 3E96 7892 B56D AE27 02EF BBAA BAA6 6C78 493F B6AE Keyserver:pgp.mit.edu
Re: What does your environment look like?
Daniel Andersen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 09:43:27AM +0300, Andrej Elizarov wrote: > > > * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar > > > applets? personal customizations? > > unclutter > I'm idle enough to google for "unclutter". I hereby thank you for directing > me to yet another great utility. > > -- > > Key ID: 493FB6AE > Key fingerprint: 3E96 7892 B56D AE27 02EF BBAA BAA6 6C78 493F B6AE > Keyserver:pgp.mit.edu I generally first do: $ grep unclutter /usr/ports/INDEX -- DISCLAIMER: http://goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ This message will self-destruct in 3 seconds.
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 09:43:27AM +0300, Andrej Elizarov wrote: > > * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar > > applets? personal customizations? > unclutter I'm idle enough to google for "unclutter". I hereby thank you for directing me to yet another great utility. -- Key ID: 493FB6AE Key fingerprint: 3E96 7892 B56D AE27 02EF BBAA BAA6 6C78 493F B6AE Keyserver:pgp.mit.edu
Re: What does your environment look like?
love it. from first sight and 3.7-around. oh, what is it? tears?! no, just rain. > * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like > cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? awesome. and it is. really. with dual monitors. > * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar > applets? personal customizations? unclutter > * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post > screenshots or actual workspace photos? bitlbee, xchat, mpd was a long trip for picking up acceptable web-browser, (and ah, Chromium works (tnx pvalchev@) but sucks), so it's modori and firefox for some tasks. but midori is the best. mplayer, conky
Re: What does your environment look like?
Brynet wrote: > Hi, > > I know not everyone uses OpenBSD for a desktop OS, I personally run only OpenBSD on all my desktops. I spend no less than 5 hours a day working on them and no I am not a software developer. I must admit though I enjoy writing a nice AWK or a shell script. > but I have been for > nearly 5 years and I'm quite curious about some of your opinions? do you > embrace minimalism or pure aesthetics? are the two mutually exclusive? > > When I started using OpenBSD (..around 3.7) I was frequently switching > between window managers, tweaking.. but for 2 years now I've been using > fluxbox and I believe I'm comfortable with it. > > * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like > cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? I was surprised to see how few cwm users responded to your message so for the record I use cwm. My wife uses cwm. My children use cwm. We switched from OpenBox around the time cwm became the part of the base. We could not be happier. > * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar > applets? personal customizations? Please see for yourself $ more .xsession #!/bin/sh xidle -program "/usr/X11R6/bin/xlock" -timeout 300 & xclock -geometry -0+0 & feh --bg-scale /home/predrag/Desktop/ocean.jpg & exec cwm $ more .Xdefaults XTerm*loginShell: true XTerm*faceName: Mono XTerm*faceSize: 11 XTerm*background: black XTerm*foreground: gray Xft.antialias: true XClock*analog: false XClock*strftime:%T %A %e %B XClock*face:ter-d12n XClock*interval:1 XClock*margin: 0 XClock*foreground: gray XClock*background: black $ more .cwmrc # Turn on sticky-group mode sticky yes # Any entry here is shown in the application menu command Opera "opera" command Rox "rox" command Ogle"ogle" command Xfig"xfig" command Xsane "xsane" command Xcalc "xcalc" # Keybindings bind CM-m "xterm -e nail -A gmail" bind CM-space "xterm -e nail -A gsu" # Autogroup definitions autogroup 2 "xterm,XTerm" > * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? Yes, I do synchronize my desktops with unison http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ > * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post > screenshots or actual workspace photos? > There is nothing really to post. See my .xsession and .Xdefaults. For a very long time I was using default gray X server with the xclock, the xconsole, and a pile of xterms. My kids got me spoiled. Now I use eye candy in a form of a nice wallpaper set by feh. > I realize none of this may be relevant or even useful, but I figured it > was worth asking here anyway. > > Anyone feel like humouring me? :-) > > Thanks. > -Bryan. You are welcome:-) Predrag
Re: What does your environment look like?
On 2010-01-04, Nick Guenther wrote: > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Tomas Bodzar wrote: >> I use default fvwm(1) and I'm happy with that. I tried cwm(1) after >> this post http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20090502141551 >> and I found it very clean and useful, but I still use fvwm(1). Anyway >> I plan to try this one http://www.scrotwm.org/ >> > > I never figured out fvwm. It has multiple desktops and you can drag > windows between them but it jumps them too far too easily. Tell me, > what's the appeal? I'm willing to think I'm just not understanding it > (though points should always be allotted for intuitiveness). > > I use wmii with a bunch of dmenu custom menus. I haven't found a file > manager I like (xfe is the best so far, but it uses some weird custom > toolkit, thunar is nice but really wants famd, which for some reason > seems associated with trackerd spinning up and eating my CPU, the > rox-filer in packages doesn't work right). hmm, I've been using it for years, what is the problem with ROX? > doesn't work everywhere, so I keep firefox and epiphany and galeon > around (why is it that Gecko seems so much slower on OpenBSD than > Linux?). I try to use mpd but sometimes I just don't bother to set it > up locally (especially since I have a media server now), so I stick > with Totem (I hate VLC's UI and mplayer is only really any good for > one offs; totem is codewise pretty heavy but at least the interface > makes sense). I've recently discovered that smplayer is quite nice > OpenBSD on the desktop feels like a lot of compromises to me :( . If I > still got off from using the command line everywhere it wouldn't be a > problem but it is. nothing beats the command line ;) Best regards, Jona -- Worse is better Richard P. Gabriel
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 3:01 AM, Tomas Bodzar wrote: > I use default fvwm(1) and I'm happy with that. I tried cwm(1) after > this post http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20090502141551 > and I found it very clean and useful, but I still use fvwm(1). Anyway > I plan to try this one http://www.scrotwm.org/ > I never figured out fvwm. It has multiple desktops and you can drag windows between them but it jumps them too far too easily. Tell me, what's the appeal? I'm willing to think I'm just not understanding it (though points should always be allotted for intuitiveness). I use wmii with a bunch of dmenu custom menus. I haven't found a file manager I like (xfe is the best so far, but it uses some weird custom toolkit, thunar is nice but really wants famd, which for some reason seems associated with trackerd spinning up and eating my CPU, the rox-filer in packages doesn't work right). I like Midori but it doesn't work everywhere, so I keep firefox and epiphany and galeon around (why is it that Gecko seems so much slower on OpenBSD than Linux?). I try to use mpd but sometimes I just don't bother to set it up locally (especially since I have a media server now), so I stick with Totem (I hate VLC's UI and mplayer is only really any good for one offs; totem is codewise pretty heavy but at least the interface makes sense). OpenBSD on the desktop feels like a lot of compromises to me :( . If I still got off from using the command line everywhere it wouldn't be a problem but it is. -Nick
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 08:07:58PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: > I'll take patches. There are several features I don't use but still > committed; the only requirements I have are: > * ISC licensed > * not in the way of current behavior > * well written and within the scrotwm style I'll see what I can do then (first time in the scrotwm codebase). > >* No tagging > > > >Since Marco doesn't really like this, and it is his wm, I doubt this > >would be comming back (a shame, really. you can still use tags as > >regular workspaces if so inclined). > > What do you mean come back? I used a couple of ideas and lines of > code from dwm but it is essentially completly written from scratch. > It was never in there. I was under the impression that it was basically dwm with your own changes and unneeded things stripped out (at least that's how I intrepreted your webpage). > >I like the way dwm distinguishes between floating windows in a tiled > >layout and windows that are set to float because of the current > >floating > >layout, so if you switch back to a tiled layout, windows which you > >have > >explicitly set to floating will remain floating. > > > >* New windows are always pushed to the bottom of the stack, can't be > > configured > > > >I think this should be an option. > > Nah, m-enter is the magic. What about opening a window above the current one (xmonad-style)?
Re: What does your environment look like?
I'll take patches. There are several features I don't use but still committed; the only requirements I have are: * ISC licensed * not in the way of current behavior * well written and within the scrotwm style If you need things like tags write the patch an it'll go in provided you meet the requirements. On Jan 3, 2010, at 14:31, Josh Rickmar wrote: On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 07:41:04PM -0500, Ryan Flannery wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: On Jan 3, 2010, at 8:23, Chris Bennett > Josh Rickmar wrote: [snip] This may have changed in more recent version of scrotwm, but back when I last tried it, the statusbar also was not able to show you which workspaces currently had windows on them, so I ended up quiting scrotwm and X when I still had windows open... not fun. [snip] I agree, I don't like having to tab through 10 windows before shutting down. The "M+left" and "M+right" keybindings may be useful for you then. They cycle through the workspaces with windows in them (skipping those that are empty). Just FYI. -Ryan Ah, nice. Yeah, after looking through the manual again, I tried all the features, and found that out as well. Just to see what has changed since I last used it, I installed scrotwm and started writing down a list of things which I didn't really like or that I found odd: * No tagging Since Marco doesn't really like this, and it is his wm, I doubt this would be comming back (a shame, really. you can still use tags as regular workspaces if so inclined). What do you mean come back? I used a couple of ideas and lines of code from dwm but it is essentially completly written from scratch. It was never in there. * Statusbar doesn't display windows on other workspaces Same here. * Statusbar doesn't display WM_NAME(STRING). I found it odd that there are options to display things like the window's class, but not the actual title of the window. Maybe I could write a patch for this. Yeah that would be nice. Patch please. * Can't bind mouse actions on windows * Can't bind mouse actions on the statusbar I use the mouse for the tubes and cut and paste. I'll flat a patch for this too. I use surf as my browser, and prefer to use it without any other programs to handle multiple windows (ie. tabbed), besides the wm. Since my hand is almost always on the mouse anyways, I find it really convenient to use mouse bindings to perform certain actions (like right clicking the statusbar to delete the current window, for instance). * Can't switch to a specific layout, only cycle (no way to bind this). That is dwc being lazy. Make him fix this. I thought it was weird the first time I used dwm (comming from xmonad), but after using it for a while, I have really missed it in scrotwm. I think that it should be possible to at least bind keys to certain layouts so you can change to it without having to cycle through all the others first. * No layout for floating Need to spend a week on this to unfuck floats. It is a surprisingly hard problem. I will eventualy get to this. I like the way dwm distinguishes between floating windows in a tiled layout and windows that are set to float because of the current floating layout, so if you switch back to a tiled layout, windows which you have explicitly set to floating will remain floating. * New windows are always pushed to the bottom of the stack, can't be configured I think this should be an option. Nah, m-enter is the magic. * Opening or closing a window with any floating moves the floating one to center Sounds like a bug. See previous float comment. * Impossible to move any part of a floating window off screen. Not sure if this is a bug or design decision, but I find it awkward at times. By design; the reason is xrandr akwardness and it can't be gotten right. So preventing it from moving offscreen was the best option. Maybe this can be fixed with the floaters. Anyways, I tried this with the scrotwm package (-current), so some of these bugs may have been fixed in the most recent version. I wouldn't mind writing patches for some of them, but the fact that things like tagging and the changes in the statusbar have been changed for the worse (imho, of course) make me rather want to stay with dwm. Anyways, good luck with your scrotwm project. Even if I don't really care for all the changes, I know you and others do. (I will say that scrotwm makes an excellent xmonad replacement, for those of you that haven't been already spoiled by switching to dwm. :)
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 07:41:04PM -0500, Ryan Flannery wrote: > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: > > On Jan 3, 2010, at 8:23, Chris Bennett > >> Josh Rickmar wrote: > [snip] > >>> This may have changed in more recent version of scrotwm, but back when I > >>> last tried it, the statusbar also was not able to show you which > >>> workspaces currently had windows on them, so I ended up quiting scrotwm > >>> and X when I still had windows open... not fun. > [snip] > >> I agree, I don't like having to tab through 10 windows before shutting > >> down. > > The "M+left" and "M+right" keybindings may be useful for you then. > They cycle through the workspaces with windows in them (skipping those > that are empty). > Just FYI. > > -Ryan > Ah, nice. Yeah, after looking through the manual again, I tried all the features, and found that out as well. Just to see what has changed since I last used it, I installed scrotwm and started writing down a list of things which I didn't really like or that I found odd: * No tagging Since Marco doesn't really like this, and it is his wm, I doubt this would be comming back (a shame, really. you can still use tags as regular workspaces if so inclined). * Statusbar doesn't display windows on other workspaces Same here. * Statusbar doesn't display WM_NAME(STRING). I found it odd that there are options to display things like the window's class, but not the actual title of the window. Maybe I could write a patch for this. * Can't bind mouse actions on windows * Can't bind mouse actions on the statusbar I use surf as my browser, and prefer to use it without any other programs to handle multiple windows (ie. tabbed), besides the wm. Since my hand is almost always on the mouse anyways, I find it really convenient to use mouse bindings to perform certain actions (like right clicking the statusbar to delete the current window, for instance). * Can't switch to a specific layout, only cycle (no way to bind this). I thought it was weird the first time I used dwm (comming from xmonad), but after using it for a while, I have really missed it in scrotwm. I think that it should be possible to at least bind keys to certain layouts so you can change to it without having to cycle through all the others first. * No layout for floating I like the way dwm distinguishes between floating windows in a tiled layout and windows that are set to float because of the current floating layout, so if you switch back to a tiled layout, windows which you have explicitly set to floating will remain floating. * New windows are always pushed to the bottom of the stack, can't be configured I think this should be an option. * Opening or closing a window with any floating moves the floating one to center Sounds like a bug. * Impossible to move any part of a floating window off screen. Not sure if this is a bug or design decision, but I find it awkward at times. Anyways, I tried this with the scrotwm package (-current), so some of these bugs may have been fixed in the most recent version. I wouldn't mind writing patches for some of them, but the fact that things like tagging and the changes in the statusbar have been changed for the worse (imho, of course) make me rather want to stay with dwm. Anyways, good luck with your scrotwm project. Even if I don't really care for all the changes, I know you and others do. (I will say that scrotwm makes an excellent xmonad replacement, for those of you that haven't been already spoiled by switching to dwm. :)
Re: What does your environment look like?
Ryan Flannery wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: On Jan 3, 2010, at 8:23, Chris Bennett Josh Rickmar wrote: [snip] This may have changed in more recent version of scrotwm, but back when I last tried it, the statusbar also was not able to show you which workspaces currently had windows on them, so I ended up quiting scrotwm and X when I still had windows open... not fun. [snip] I agree, I don't like having to tab through 10 windows before shutting down. The "M+left" and "M+right" keybindings may be useful for you then. They cycle through the workspaces with windows in them (skipping those that are empty). Just FYI. -Ryan Well then, thats that. I didn't realize that they skipped empties! OK, I'm happy now. -- A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: > On Jan 3, 2010, at 8:23, Chris Bennett >> Josh Rickmar wrote: [snip] >>> This may have changed in more recent version of scrotwm, but back when I >>> last tried it, the statusbar also was not able to show you which >>> workspaces currently had windows on them, so I ended up quiting scrotwm >>> and X when I still had windows open... not fun. [snip] >> I agree, I don't like having to tab through 10 windows before shutting >> down. The "M+left" and "M+right" keybindings may be useful for you then. They cycle through the workspaces with windows in them (skipping those that are empty). Just FYI. -Ryan
Re: What does your environment look like?
I had it on the status bar before and hated it. I have never found any use for tagging. On Jan 3, 2010, at 8:23, Chris Bennett wrote: Josh Rickmar wrote: I tried out scrotwm, wasn't all that impressed. I really don't understand why the devs decided to remove dwm's tagging features. This may have changed in more recent version of scrotwm, but back when I last tried it, the statusbar also was not able to show you which workspaces currently had windows on them, so I ended up quiting scrotwm and X when I still had windows open... not fun. Scrotwm now has two settings : title_class_enabled Enable or disable displaying the window class in the status bar. Enable by setting to 1 title_name_enabledEnable or disable displaying the window ti- tle in the status bar. Enable by setting to 1 These show what is open in a window when AT the window. Perhaps this function could be exploited to add a prompt when quitting with windows active? Or add an optional row to status bar showing active windows. I agree, I don't like having to tab through 10 windows before shutting down. -- A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Jan 2, 2010, at 20:08, Brynet wrote: Hi, I know not everyone uses OpenBSD for a desktop OS, but I have been for nearly 5 years and I'm quite curious about some of your opinions? do you embrace minimalism or pure aesthetics? are the two mutually exclusive? When I started using OpenBSD (..around 3.7) I was frequently switching between window managers, tweaking.. but for 2 years now I've been using fluxbox and I believe I'm comfortable with it. I have used OpenBSD as my main desktop since 2.9. Wish I had discovered it earlier. * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? Scrotwm * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar applets? personal customizations? Dmenu * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktop ? The defaults are exactly what I want. * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post screenshots or actual workspace photos? http://scrotwm.org I realize none of this may be relevant or even useful, but I figured it was worth asking here anyway. Anyone feel like humouring me? :-) Thanks. -Bryan.
Re: What does your environment look like?
Anders Langworthy wrote: On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Brynet wrote: * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? I wasn't going to reply, but I couldn't believe that cwm hasn't received any love yet. It's glorious. Powerful keyboard control, neat features, and faster than you need it to be. Its minimalism is elegant (and absolute) with no window decoration crud to distract or waste valuable pixels. And it's in base. * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? No, but net/rsync is excellent for that purpose. evilwm + xbindkeys "Anything else is pure luxury."
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Brynet wrote: > * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like > cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? I wasn't going to reply, but I couldn't believe that cwm hasn't received any love yet. It's glorious. Powerful keyboard control, neat features, and faster than you need it to be. Its minimalism is elegant (and absolute) with no window decoration crud to distract or waste valuable pixels. And it's in base. > * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? No, but net/rsync is excellent for that purpose.
Re: What does your environment look like?
Josh Rickmar wrote: I tried out scrotwm, wasn't all that impressed. I really don't understand why the devs decided to remove dwm's tagging features. This may have changed in more recent version of scrotwm, but back when I last tried it, the statusbar also was not able to show you which workspaces currently had windows on them, so I ended up quiting scrotwm and X when I still had windows open... not fun. Scrotwm now has two settings : title_class_enabled Enable or disable displaying the window class in the status bar. Enable by setting to 1 title_name_enabledEnable or disable displaying the window ti- tle in the status bar. Enable by setting to 1 These show what is open in a window when AT the window. Perhaps this function could be exploited to add a prompt when quitting with windows active? Or add an optional row to status bar showing active windows. I agree, I don't like having to tab through 10 windows before shutting down. -- A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: What does your environment look like?
Sorry for the duplicate again... I really have to get used to using mutt's list-reply. - Forwarded message from Josh Rickmar - Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 08:30:26 + From: Josh Rickmar To: Tomas Bodzar Subject: Re: What does your environment look like? User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 09:01:45AM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote: > I use default fvwm(1) and I'm happy with that. I tried cwm(1) after > this post http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20090502141551 > and I found it very clean and useful, but I still use fvwm(1). Anyway > I plan to try this one http://www.scrotwm.org/ I tried out scrotwm, wasn't all that impressed. I really don't understand why the devs decided to remove dwm's tagging features. This may have changed in more recent version of scrotwm, but back when I last tried it, the statusbar also was not able to show you which workspaces currently had windows on them, so I ended up quiting scrotwm and X when I still had windows open... not fun. Anyways, each to his own. Josh - End forwarded message -
Re: What does your environment look like?
Am 03.01.10 04:11, schrieb Bryan: http://imagebin.ca/view/3JllgShA.png I will kill to learn how to use mutt... It looks great... That's vim used as editor for messages in mutt. But yes, mutt is great.
Re: What does your environment look like?
I use scrotwm with dual monitors. I really like scrotwm since it works well on even really old hardware. I adjust to make home, end, delete=delete forward work in xterm I force keypad to work numbers only I use colorls I have aliases to swap between english and spanish I have emu card so I use aucatvol + a script to change volume to known levels. pic: http://www.bennettconstruction.us/images/Desktop.jpg -- A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: What does your environment look like?
I use default fvwm(1) and I'm happy with that. I tried cwm(1) after this post http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20090502141551 and I found it very clean and useful, but I still use fvwm(1). Anyway I plan to try this one http://www.scrotwm.org/ On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Josh Rickmar wrote: > Forgot to send to list. > > Josh > > - Forwarded message from Josh Rickmar - > > Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 21:29:50 + > From: Josh Rickmar > To: Brynet > Subject: Re: What does your environment look like? > User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) > > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 09:08:38PM -0500, Brynet wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I know not everyone uses OpenBSD for a desktop OS, but I have been for >> nearly 5 years and I'm quite curious about some of your opinions? do you >> B embrace minimalism or pure aesthetics? are the two mutually exclusive? >> >> When I started using OpenBSD (..around 3.7) I was frequently switching >> between window managers, tweaking.. but for 2 years now I've been using >> fluxbox and I believe I'm comfortable with it. >> >> * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like >> cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? > > dwm (with patches) > >> * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar >> applets? personal customizations? > > dmenu > >> * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? > > I'm on a laptop, not so much of an issue. Otherwise I would. > >> * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post >> screenshots or actual workspace photos? > > http://imagebin.ca/view/3JllgShA.png > >> I realize none of this may be relevant or even useful, but I figured it >> was worth asking here anyway. >> >> Anyone feel like humouring me? :-) >> >> Thanks. >> -Bryan. >> > > Josh > > - End forwarded message - > > -- http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 09:08:38PM -0500, Brynet wrote: > Anyone feel like humouring me? :-) ScrotWM on OpenBSD-stable. The mouse is only useful for, y'know, selecting which xterm to type into (though tmux is lovely enough for me to stick to a single term). -- Key ID: 493FB6AE Key fingerprint: 3E96 7892 B56D AE27 02EF BBAA BAA6 6C78 493F B6AE Keyserver:pgp.mit.edu
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:51 PM, J Sisson wrote: > OpenBSD-STABLE with fluxbox on my work desktop. I have a laptop with a > busted LCD and keyboard, so I use it as a WinXP slave via rdesktop for > running IE (checking websites, as I work in IT for a hosting company). The > XP box runs in seamless mode, so fluxbox looks a bit weird with a Windows > task bar across the top...but it works haha. > > At home I have OpenBSD-CURRENT running on my desktop...fluxbox there as > well. > > Both have conky running as my monitor, with three instances: Left one is > RSS feeds (undeadly, milw0rm, etc...), middle is CPU/RAM/etc, right is OT: FYI milw0rm went TU quite a while ago. Another good tracker is Offensive Security: http://www.exploit-db.com/
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:08 AM, Brynet wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I know not everyone uses OpenBSD for a desktop OS, but I have been for
> nearly 5 years and I'm quite curious about some of your opinions? do you
> embrace minimalism or pure aesthetics? are the two mutually exclusive?
>
> When I started using OpenBSD (..around 3.7) I was frequently switching
> between window managers, tweaking.. but for 2 years now I've been using
> fluxbox and I believe I'm comfortable with it.
>
> * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like
> cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else?
> * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar
> applets? personal customizations?
> * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops?
> * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post
> screenshots or actual workspace photos?
>
> I realize none of this may be relevant or even useful, but I figured it
> was worth asking here anyway.
>
> Anyone feel like humouring me? :-)
>
> Thanks.
> -Bryan.
>
>
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amsn
amule
d-feet
dejavu-fonts
dosbox
dvd+rw-tools
easytag
emesene
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firefox35
galculator
gcc
gimp
gmake
gnome-games
gqview
gtk-gnutella
gtk2-clearlooks-engine
gucharmap
hydrogen
inkscape
ion
kqemu
leafpad
mercurial
mpc
mpd
mplayer
no-ip
openoffice
php5-core
pidgin
python
qemu
quake
scrot
tango-icon-theme-extras
thewidgetfactory
tightvnc
tightvnc-viewer
transmission-gui
unrar
unzip
valknut
vlc
vorbis-tools
xchat
xclip
zenity
zip
Mozilla Firefox extensions:
CheckPlaces
DOM Inspector
DownThemAll!
DownloadHelper
Firebug
LiveClick
Rotate Image
SortPlaces
GTK+ control theme: Darkilouche
GTK+ icon theme: Tango
I use ion3 as my wm, made my own skin for it. Most of the time I'm
running Mozilla Firefox, Pidgin, XChat.
Screen shot:
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1508/201001030239311024x768s.png
There I'm running:
galculator | leafpad | Mozilla Firefox
--
mpdfind | xterm |
--
xchat
Obviously not my usual layout. I have key bindings for much of those apps:
F2, xterm
F3, run
F4, galculator
F5, leafpad
F6 + file name, leafpad
F7 + file name, mplayer
+ + J, mpdfind (let's me select a file to play with mpc,
pretty cool)
+ + , mpc stop
Etc.
Greetings.
Re: What does your environment look like?
Brynet wrote: > Hi, > > I know not everyone uses OpenBSD for a desktop OS, but I have been for > nearly 5 years and I'm quite curious about some of your opinions? do you > embrace minimalism or pure aesthetics? are the two mutually exclusive? > > When I started using OpenBSD (..around 3.7) I was frequently switching > between window managers, tweaking.. but for 2 years now I've been using > fluxbox and I believe I'm comfortable with it. > > * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like > cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? > * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar > applets? personal customizations? > * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? > * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post > screenshots or actual workspace photos? > > I realize none of this may be relevant or even useful, but I figured it > was worth asking here anyway. > > Anyone feel like humouring me? :-) > > Thanks. > -Bryan. awesome, lots of xterm with 'xterm -fa efont:size=9', irssi + bitlbee (local), nail (heirloom mailx) and midori. Saludos. -- DISCLAIMER: http://goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ This message will self-destruct in 3 seconds.
Re: What does your environment look like?
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 16:04, Josh Rickmar wrote: > dmenu > >> * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? > > I'm on a laptop, not so much of an issue. Otherwise I would. > >> * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post >> screenshots or actual workspace photos? > > http://imagebin.ca/view/3JllgShA.png > I will kill to learn how to use mutt... It looks great...
Re: What does your environment look like?
Forgot to send to list. Josh - Forwarded message from Josh Rickmar - Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 21:29:50 + From: Josh Rickmar To: Brynet Subject: Re: What does your environment look like? User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 09:08:38PM -0500, Brynet wrote: > Hi, > > I know not everyone uses OpenBSD for a desktop OS, but I have been for > nearly 5 years and I'm quite curious about some of your opinions? do you > embrace minimalism or pure aesthetics? are the two mutually exclusive? > > When I started using OpenBSD (..around 3.7) I was frequently switching > between window managers, tweaking.. but for 2 years now I've been using > fluxbox and I believe I'm comfortable with it. > > * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like > cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? dwm (with patches) > * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar > applets? personal customizations? dmenu > * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? I'm on a laptop, not so much of an issue. Otherwise I would. > * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post > screenshots or actual workspace photos? http://imagebin.ca/view/3JllgShA.png > I realize none of this may be relevant or even useful, but I figured it > was worth asking here anyway. > > Anyone feel like humouring me? :-) > > Thanks. > -Bryan. > Josh - End forwarded message -
Re: What does your environment look like?
OpenBSD-STABLE with fluxbox on my work desktop. I have a laptop with a busted LCD and keyboard, so I use it as a WinXP slave via rdesktop for running IE (checking websites, as I work in IT for a hosting company). The XP box runs in seamless mode, so fluxbox looks a bit weird with a Windows task bar across the top...but it works haha. At home I have OpenBSD-CURRENT running on my desktop...fluxbox there as well. Both have conky running as my monitor, with three instances: Left one is RSS feeds (undeadly, milw0rm, etc...), middle is CPU/RAM/etc, right is network-related stuff. I sometimes run GeoXPlanet as my wallpaper setter, but it takes some tweaks to get it running on OpenBSD and I haven't uploaded the fixed version to sourceforge for that (not trying to advertise, but if anyone is interested I'll upload the fixed code). That's pretty much it.
What does your environment look like?
Hi, I know not everyone uses OpenBSD for a desktop OS, but I have been for nearly 5 years and I'm quite curious about some of your opinions? do you embrace minimalism or pure aesthetics? are the two mutually exclusive? When I started using OpenBSD (..around 3.7) I was frequently switching between window managers, tweaking.. but for 2 years now I've been using fluxbox and I believe I'm comfortable with it. * Do you use one of the bundled window managers like cwm(1)/twm(1)/fvwm(1) or something else? * What other utilities do you find useful, any "dockapps" or similar applets? personal customizations? * Do you try to keep things uniform across other desktops? * What does your environment look like? anyone willing to post screenshots or actual workspace photos? I realize none of this may be relevant or even useful, but I figured it was worth asking here anyway. Anyone feel like humouring me? :-) Thanks. -Bryan.
