[MMouse]: re: philly rawk / "indier than thou"
God this list seems to be losing years and braincells quite quickly. Tyler
[MMouse]: Re: E1 rhymes with leigh! (or does it?)
leigh - thanks for the tip and all, but what in the hell possessed you to check out E!Online? are you trying to keep up with "wild on" or what? love star
[MMouse]: Re: Travis Lisp?
huh? travis doesn't lisp at all... I can't imagine someone with a lisp doing "the dismemberment plan gets rich". you need pretty good diction for that. -Original Message- From: J to the R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 1:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MMouse]: THE DISMEMBERMENT PLAN ! RESPECT IS DUE ! The first time I saw Modest Mouse the Dismemberment Plan opened up for them. "The Great Lisp Show of 98" In a battle of the bands, Modest Mouse destroys The Plan, however...if it was fought only with lead singers' dueling lisps...it's a toss up. Travis could certainly hang with Isacc on the lisp front. That would make for a killer comic book hero... He'd pull out a book full of S'ss and the evil speach teachers would cringe in pain... The D-Plan slow jams suck, but if you only listen to the fast jams you can understand why...Travis is a lyrical master, but he wears his ego on his sleeve. Isacc is a lyrical master, but he wears his ego between his legs... however, they're my top two favorite bands...and what's great about both, people love them or hate them...at least you can't be ambivalent. If I were an "artist," I'd at least want people to fall on either side of the fence, rather than sitting with a white spear up their ass in metaphorical indecision. "Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >i'll jump in and just say that while their song 'the city' is one > of my > >*FAVORITE* songs out there right now, i'm kinda lukewarm about the > rest of > >their stuff. but, eh, i've only listened to the rest of that cd a > couple > >of times. maybe it'll grow on me, as was the case with modest mouse. > are > >any of their other cd's listen-worthy? > > The albums preceding 'Emergency & I' (which are 'The Dismemberment > Plan is > terrified' and '!') are mandatory listening for anyone following the > modern > era of rock n roll. However, during the time period between ...terrified > and > emergency, something magical happend..travis learned to sing !! > it > really shows on Emergencycompare standout trax from 'terrified' > suchas, > ice of boston, doing the standstill...with anything from emergency, > and you > cannot get the same level of pure sincerity. Emergency & I is one of > the > most profound albums to come out in the past few years and it will > be a > major influence on any significant musician to emerge in the near future. > it > seems the d-plan get lumped into the 'emo' category by default. They > play > with alot of the bands associated with emo... as already pointed out, > but > they cannot definitively be classified as emo. I would go so far as > to say > they are in a genre completely of their own making. Songs like 'The > City' > with its keyboards swelling into valhalla, and that drum breaking yr > back as > you swing yr body in motion with the tingling guitar. And to see them > live, > dancing, moving those hips to every pulse pounding beat. travis beckoning > for some brave soul to come up front and breakdance.ah, dear god, > is > there a better band on the planet ? Bringing influences as far ranged > as hip > hop to classic r&b to, dare i say, prog rock, the d-plan meld the sincerity > and enthusiam of life into their music and it shows. how can one deny > the > power of the d-plan ?! > > > RESPECT IS DUE > mathhue > > > p.s. http://www.dismembermentplan.com > > > > __ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com
[MMouse]: Re: THE DISMEMBERMENT PLAN ! RESPECT IS DUE !
Just to build the momentum a bit more... I've seen the Plan 3 times on this tour and every show was fucking rad; from the now-famous sold out show at the middle-east in Boston (probably one of the 3 best shows I've ever seen) to their show at the Skinny in Portland, Maine (playing for a crowd of about 10 people) they rocked the Casbah and split the diff. Travis is totally nuts; he has this look in his eyes when he's performing that makes Isaac Brock look postively boring in comparison. Add to that the fact that D-Plan crowds are the coolest around and Eric is one of the nicest band members you could meet (perhaps second only to the mighty Robert Nastanovich) and you have the makings of the most vital act in music today. But that's just my opinion. -Original Message- From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 11:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MMouse]: THE DISMEMBERMENT PLAN ! RESPECT IS DUE ! The albums preceding 'Emergency & I' (which are 'The Dismemberment Plan is terrified' and '!') are mandatory listening for anyone following the modern era of rock n roll. However, during the time period between ...terrified and emergency, something magical happend..travis learned to sing !! it really shows on Emergencycompare standout trax from 'terrified' suchas, ice of boston, doing the standstill...with anything from emergency, and you cannot get the same level of pure sincerity. Emergency & I is one of the most profound albums to come out in the past few years and it will be a major influence on any significant musician to emerge in the near future. it seems the d-plan get lumped into the 'emo' category by default. They play with alot of the bands associated with emo... as already pointed out, but they cannot definitively be classified as emo. I would go so far as to say they are in a genre completely of their own making. Songs like 'The City' with its keyboards swelling into valhalla, and that drum breaking yr back as you swing yr body in motion with the tingling guitar. And to see them live, dancing, moving those hips to every pulse pounding beat. travis beckoning for some brave soul to come up front and breakdance.ah, dear god, is there a better band on the planet ? Bringing influences as far ranged as hip hop to classic r&b to, dare i say, prog rock, the d-plan meld the sincerity and enthusiam of life into their music and it shows. how can one deny the power of the d-plan ?! RESPECT IS DUE mathhue p.s. http://www.dismembermentplan.com
Re: [MMouse]: re: califone
ok ok the music is very good, and different, but the vocal harmonies and what not, they all had nearly the same feeling. Now I liked the way they sounded, and i was about to run back and pick up the album after the first half of their set, but the songs were just so similar, that turned me off -- Dustin "keep your lamp light trimmed and burning" -- >From: tyler drosdeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [MMouse]: re: califone >Date: Tue, May 23, 2000, 9:24 AM > >> every song sounds the same > > Again I would submit that you're not listening hard enough. In my > experience when someone says this about a musician or group of musicians > it is because the person is not familiar with the genre of music. I know > that its true with me. For a long time I thought that all hip-hop music > sounded the same but now I realize that my prejudice against hip-hop was > just my own unfamiliarity with the music. > > It might also have to do with the fact that Califone's music is more about > subtlety than Modest Mouse's music is. > > Tyler > >
Re: [MMouse]: RE: philly rawwwwwk
well smarty pants i was at the boston show as well and and the mouse's just rocked philly harder dusty "there is no classic rock band called philedelphia" -- >From: George Booze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [MMouse]: RE: philly rawk >Date: Tue, May 23, 2000, 9:16 AM > > I went to the Boston show and I had a fantastical time. As such, you're > out-right bashing of the Boston show makes me sad. And I don't think Les > Savy Fav played at the Philly show, so phhhbbt to you. > > -Original Message- > From: Dustin Summers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 1:35 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [MMouse]: philly rawk > > > holy christ on a cross, the philly show had to be one of the best shows > ever, fuck boston dude, this show took boston out in the back alley and beat > the hell out of it and then pissed in bostons wounds and laughed at it, i > have pictures its nasty. They had a maniquin on stage with them and it had a > guitar and isacc kept sayin that he was the new guitarist and he was really > good with the chords, and said that the maniquin was available after the > show. And of course the thong song. And some dude came out during the encore > and did some break dancing on the stage. I got on of them window posters. > One thing i noticed was that they had more T shirts in boston, they didnt > have the dark blue ones here in philly, but they did have some free momo > postcards. I dont need to explain myself this show rocked your ass when you > were fast asleep > > the set list to you ask? > here we go: > > 1-Truckers Atlas > 2-Neverending Math Equation > 3-When Ever I Breathe Out > 4-Third Planet > 5-Breakthrough > 6-Paper Thin Walls > 7-All Night Diner > 8-What People are Made Of > 9-The Thong Song > 10-Doin the Cockroach > 11-A Different City (by request-owww hell yesss) > 12-Dramamine > 13-Polar Opposites > 14-Broke > 15-Trailer Trash > 16-Alone Down There > 17-Custom Concern > ---Encore--- > 1-Grey Ice Water > 2-Cow Boy Dan > 3-Tundra/Desert > > Dusty > "when i have sex im always thinkin bout the pavement" >
RE: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n900
that song rocks! who hasn't felt the line "the city's been dead since you've been gone". roberto -Original Message- From: Jennifer Peeters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 11:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n900 i'll jump in and just say that while their song 'the city' is one of my *FAVORITE* songs out there right now, i'm kinda lukewarm about the rest of their stuff. but, eh, i've only listened to the rest of that cd a couple of times. maybe it'll grow on me, as was the case with modest mouse. are any of their other cd's listen-worthy? later, jenny ps- btw, if you haven't rented 'american history X' go out and rent it. now. it's an amazing, amazing movie. and for some reason i've also been watching 'hackers' over and over again and yeah, i KNOW it's cheesy in that it makes it seem like every hacker out there is as gorgeous as angelina jolie and tommy lee miller, but i still liked it a lot. i don't start work until the middle of june so if anyone has any suggestions for good movies to rent, i'd be forever grateful. and the movements in your brain/that send you out into the rain On Mon, 22 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated Mon, 22 May 2000 10:58:35 PM Eastern > >>They opened for the > >Dismemberment Plan ( I didn't care for them though). > > > > >WHOA ??? > > >please xplain > >how can you not like the d-plan ?? > > > >math hue > > Agreed. With all due respect, I find it hard to see how sane people could not be insanely crazed about the D-Plan. At times, I think I like em better than Modest Mouse. > > Loring Wirbel > Monument, Colo. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >
[MMouse]: re: califone
> every song sounds the same Again I would submit that you're not listening hard enough. In my experience when someone says this about a musician or group of musicians it is because the person is not familiar with the genre of music. I know that its true with me. For a long time I thought that all hip-hop music sounded the same but now I realize that my prejudice against hip-hop was just my own unfamiliarity with the music. It might also have to do with the fact that Califone's music is more about subtlety than Modest Mouse's music is. Tyler
[MMouse]: RE: philly rawwwwwk
I went to the Boston show and I had a fantastical time. As such, you're out-right bashing of the Boston show makes me sad. And I don't think Les Savy Fav played at the Philly show, so phhhbbt to you. -Original Message- From: Dustin Summers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 1:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MMouse]: philly rawk holy christ on a cross, the philly show had to be one of the best shows ever, fuck boston dude, this show took boston out in the back alley and beat the hell out of it and then pissed in bostons wounds and laughed at it, i have pictures its nasty. They had a maniquin on stage with them and it had a guitar and isacc kept sayin that he was the new guitarist and he was really good with the chords, and said that the maniquin was available after the show. And of course the thong song. And some dude came out during the encore and did some break dancing on the stage. I got on of them window posters. One thing i noticed was that they had more T shirts in boston, they didnt have the dark blue ones here in philly, but they did have some free momo postcards. I dont need to explain myself this show rocked your ass when you were fast asleep the set list to you ask? here we go: 1-Truckers Atlas 2-Neverending Math Equation 3-When Ever I Breathe Out 4-Third Planet 5-Breakthrough 6-Paper Thin Walls 7-All Night Diner 8-What People are Made Of 9-The Thong Song 10-Doin the Cockroach 11-A Different City (by request-owww hell yesss) 12-Dramamine 13-Polar Opposites 14-Broke 15-Trailer Trash 16-Alone Down There 17-Custom Concern ---Encore--- 1-Grey Ice Water 2-Cow Boy Dan 3-Tundra/Desert Dusty "when i have sex im always thinkin bout the pavement"
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n900
i cough the cash for the 2 $10 tix, and then the 20% "convienience charge" and finally the sales tax, 2 tickets to a $10 show ended up costing me almost $30. -2 tickets for the Dallas show @ $10 each cost me $32 through ticketmaster. I hate them. Star tickets almost charges just as much, though. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n900
i'll jump in and just say that while their song 'the city' is one of my *FAVORITE* songs out there right now, i'm kinda lukewarm about the rest of their stuff. but, eh, i've only listened to the rest of that cd a couple of times. maybe it'll grow on me, as was the case with modest mouse. are any of their other cd's listen-worthy? later, jenny ps- btw, if you haven't rented 'american history X' go out and rent it. now. it's an amazing, amazing movie. and for some reason i've also been watching 'hackers' over and over again and yeah, i KNOW it's cheesy in that it makes it seem like every hacker out there is as gorgeous as angelina jolie and tommy lee miller, but i still liked it a lot. i don't start work until the middle of june so if anyone has any suggestions for good movies to rent, i'd be forever grateful. and the movements in your brain/that send you out into the rain On Mon, 22 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated Mon, 22 May 2000 10:58:35 PM Eastern > >>They opened for the > >Dismemberment Plan ( I didn't care for them though). > > > > >WHOA ??? > > >please xplain > >how can you not like the d-plan ?? > > > >math hue > > Agreed. With all due respect, I find it hard to see how sane people could not be >insanely crazed about the D-Plan. At times, I think I like em better than Modest >Mouse. > > Loring Wirbel > Monument, Colo. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n900
In a message dated Mon, 22 May 2000 10:58:35 PM Eastern >>They opened for the >Dismemberment Plan ( I didn't care for them though). >WHOA ??? >please xplain >how can you not like the d-plan ?? >math hue Agreed. With all due respect, I find it hard to see how sane people could not be insanely crazed about the D-Plan. At times, I think I like em better than Modest Mouse. Loring Wirbel Monument, Colo. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MMouse]: Re: Thursday's set list???
I was at the thursday show, (my first mm concert) and i'm pretty sure that customm concern was the last song, but i can't remember if there was one more after it. i would really like to find a setlist for the show. if anyone here went, what did you think? -GINA
Re: [MMouse]: Re: Chapel Hill/Carrboro
ill be there. if i ever get back from the midwestest area. i should be back in the great state of north carolina tuesday or wed. then thursday heading up with a friend to chapel hill. are you going to any of the bright eyes shows?? me ryan
[MMouse]: RE: the new york show
I was there last night too. I was wearing a black tshirt that said "Clam Power" And I was right in the front, in front of Isaac. I'll be there tonight, and I'm wearing a grey DEVO ringer tshirt. Say hi, My girlfriend and I had to leave after they got off stage after playing Positive Negative. We had to catch a train, so we missed Custom Concern. Oh well, life goes on. Phil
[MMouse]: RE: the new york show
>>>a. Jeremiah's butt-rock hair kicks ass! He looks like a young Howard Stern. Phil.
[MMouse]: Re: Chapel Hill/Carrboro
hey...the show at Cat's Cradle in Carrboro NC is coming soon (5/25)...should i expect some other list members to be there!? awesome *tanner total anxiety pay for variety
[MMouse]: Re:
as interesting as a documentary about the mouse would've been, thank goodness this isn't really the one. and amy: "boozin' it while pregnant" was exaggerated sarcasm too. i mostly understood what you meant, but i'm with phil on a) playin' it safe, and b) it's not my body, either. i think this topic is dead now, as i'm sure a rash of emails will probably soon attest to. and to all, a good night. or a bad one, if you prefer. star
[MMouse]: Re: todd phillips/bitersweet motel
ah, damn it! todd phillips appears to be such an asshole - i mean, really, anyone who has to fake footage in a documentary to make frat boys look like jerk-offs is missing a clue or two (that's right, i made a blanket statement about frat boys, and alluded to the majority of them being assholes. and i'd do the same for scientologists. i have no reservations about these prejudices and biases.) ... star
Re: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n891
> Yikes! While I totally disagree with what Amy has been saying re: boozin' it > while pregnant, I think the "opression against 15 year olds" bit was maybe > said a bit in jest. HEY NOW while i appreciate you standing up for me, i never said you should be boozin' it while pregnant or anything. i'm not cool with that at all :P my case to begin with was that i don't believe that having like one or two glasses of wine during pregnancy isn't gonna necessarily make your baby come out like a freak. i KNOW i've been consistant about that throughout this thread, and it's starting to frustrate me and i'm starting to not care what i type as you can probably tell and if i piss some people off well i don't give a shit. i'm just saying that i don't think that's gonna be the worst thing in the world, and if your baby happens to come out with problems out the ass then whatever. maybe it was from the alcohol, maybe it wasn't. - amy
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n891
Yikes! While I totally disagree with what Amy has been saying re: boozin' it while pregnant, I think the "opression against 15 year olds" bit was maybe said a bit in jest. i'm sure amy prolly knows what real oppression is and doesn't really compare her situation to it. ease back down, pardners. i mean, i somewhat threw my back out today and have to go to godforsaken work in an hour (the census no less!), and i wonder "why is this cursed world set against me?! why? why, god, why!" (screamed with typical chuck heston on the beach panache). i mean, i know that i'm doing alright compared to some starving ethiopian children, and a lot of other people in the world, but hey, who doesn't need a little self-aggrandizement now and then? love star > Oppression against 15 year olds...ha! Sayings like that are what make you > seem extremely naive. Oppression was black slavery and the Japanese > internment camps, Oppression was the Civil Rights movement and the Farm > Workers Union; Oppression is happening today in some sweat shop and local > liquor store to some immigrant; but alas, it is not occurring in your little > > world. > ps. you can say nothing more please
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n890
Why did Jim Knauff send a digest back to the list three times without actually commenting on anything? It makes for awfully annoying digest reading. And, I don't know what classes you're taking at college, but I certainly haven't learned that Columbus was a hero. I'm sure some institutions would say the same about Nathaniel Bedford Forrest too. Maybe you should go to a different school, if you're in such disagreement with what you're taught. just a thought or two, star
[MMouse]: Re: somewhat impaired manners of thinking.
> In college we are taught that Christopher Columbus was a hero. > >- Matt good point, matt, why believe anything at all? to that end, if you can't believe alcohol might affect pregnancy, why believe christopher columbus wasn't a hero? oh, no, truth no longer exists. >The fact that people can spend their entire lives trying to make themselves think beer tastes good makes an excellent example of what is wrong with people today.> ben, i don't like beer. you don't like the taste of beer. yet, some people do. leave it at that, for christ's sake. > My negativity is much needed on this list. For a long time I've been very > quiet (for lack of anything nice to say) and as soon as I start insulting > people some of the most interesting conversation this list has ever known > springs up. > it's nice to know that you amuse yourself so well; how often do you engage in solitary conversations? star
RE: [MMouse]: Re: People who smell bad
For fear of incurring the wrath of all those godless indie rockers out there, I will say only; good point. Though, as any good christian will tell you, god is not responsible for any act we commit after we are created, otherwise, how would they explain satan? Or John Stossel for that matter? Mark You'll fail. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 6:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [MMouse]: Re: People who smell bad > > > > And on the topic of the god v. Beer, I think I'll stick to > discussing the > > entity that makes me pee the least. > > hmm, this raises an interesting question. If god > iswell, god, then > those of you that are much more religious than I would > probably tend to think > that s/he (notice the LACK of a capital letter) is in fact > responsible for > all episodes of urination, making beer the topic which would > make you pee the > least. > > whoa... > ~Mike >
Re: [MMouse]: Re: People who smell bad
> And on the topic of the god v. Beer, I think I'll stick to discussing the > entity that makes me pee the least. this statement doesnt make sense dut to the fact that beer is god *gary*
Re: [MMouse]: Re: People who smell bad
> And on the topic of the god v. Beer, I think I'll stick to discussing the > entity that makes me pee the least. hmm, this raises an interesting question. If god iswell, god, then those of you that are much more religious than I would probably tend to think that s/he (notice the LACK of a capital letter) is in fact responsible for all episodes of urination, making beer the topic which would make you pee the least. whoa... ~Mike
[MMouse]: Re: People who smell bad
There's a dirty hippie who takes his patchouli seriously. He's obviously just out to start a war, lighten up. And on the topic of the god v. Beer, I think I'll stick to discussing the entity that makes me pee the least. Mark > It seems like you enjoy being the asshole, so I'll do what > everyone else > on the list does.ignore you. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I would have to disagree with your assertment that the > majority of mouse > > fans are hippies. Stupid indie-rock fucks, yes. Hippies? No. > > > > My negativity is much needed on this list. For a long time > I've been very > > quiet (for lack of anything nice to say) and as soon as I > start insulting > > people some of the most interesting conversation this list > has ever known > > springs up. > > > > >
[MMouse]: Re: People who smell bad
It seems like you enjoy being the asshole, so I'll do what everyone else on the list does.ignore you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I would have to disagree with your assertment that the majority of mouse > fans are hippies. Stupid indie-rock fucks, yes. Hippies? No. > > My negativity is much needed on this list. For a long time I've been very > quiet (for lack of anything nice to say) and as soon as I start insulting > people some of the most interesting conversation this list has ever known > springs up. > > ___ > The most electrifying man in mailing list entertainment: > Ben Hubbird > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > > On Wed, 17 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I'm all for free-speech and such, but I do feel that your negativity is > > not needed on this list. I'm sure you must realize this ( and if you > > don't i'll tell you), most of the people who listen to the mouse are > > "hippies" in some sense of the word. It's like my mother used to say, > > "if you don't have anything good to say then don't say it at all". > > > > > > John > > -opinions are like kittens always giving them away- > > then spade and/or neuter your cat. > > > >
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n886
Paul, I'm with you on the show at the blind pig, thanks for backing me up. and every good show i've been to has been a smoky experience. i think the one time i went to a smoke free show was when i was in seventh grade and i saw bryan adams through a pair of binoculars since the stage was so far away it couldn't been seen with the naked eye. I don't want to go back. I was kinda looking for the thong song or maybe some of issaac's sarcasm, but they just wanted to rock, and that was fine with me. russ, about the crazy gnome, you just gotta ask for it by name. throughout the show eric's eyes were glued to the floor until we started chanting "crazy gnome, crazy gnome" and he looked up with the biggest grin on his face, and issaac just loved it... I guess i'm never going to find my yellow buffalo t-shirt, i'm falling into the depths of despair... rosita Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [MMouse]: re: cities.
i agree with mike. my friends say that seattle are is way kick bck im going there next month! yay jesse
Re: [MMouse]: re: cities.
> However, the best record store ever is DEFINATELY Singles Going Steady. > ha. Singles Going Steady? That place freaks me out, i went in there once, and it looked like it was a porn shop that happened to sell records. the guy behind the counter was really freaky too, lotsa leather, LOTS of Leather. shuddering... ~Mike
[MMouse]: Re: beer, gear, and birth defects
hey all - as a non-drinker, i prefer lucky lager. i can play with the bottle-cap puzzles when my friends crack open a few bottles, when there's a lag in watching people do amusing shit. plus, the bottles look neat. and it's really damn cheap. can't believe no one mentioned it. second, in the latest gear magazine, in the records review section, they messed up and put a small photo of the new mouse cover (it is the one that was on ebay, dammit.. . blech) next to someone else's record review . . . but there's no mention of the mouse anywhere. third, i assume you're not pregnant, amy. but in the event that you ever become so, why take a chance? i mean, if you're planning on having children, it seems like the sort of thing that it's best not to fuck around with. just my opinion. star
Re: [MMouse]: re: cities.
i'm seconding (not a word) that motion. Fremont is indeed the most laid back place ever. i mean, a giant stone troll under a bridge? great. its turned into a big tourist trap though. but if you are ever in seattle, check out fremont. Broadway is also pretty laid back. However, the best record store ever is DEFINATELY Singles Going Steady. ha. .jamie.. rock and roll = www.singlesgoingsteady.com. > >Nope, not #1, Fremont in Seattle. That is the most laid back and cool >neighborhood on the planet. Portland might come in #2 but Fremont takes >the >cake. They have a giant mock-up of a rocketship labeled, "The Center of >the >Universe" and every other person is wearing tie-dye. Oh, and there is the >most kick-ass record store ever there, its called sonic boom records. > >~Mike Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [MMouse]: re: modest mouse/cleveland
Yeah, i saw them sunday night in louisville, and it was the best show ever. Isaac kept talking about the thong song, and he made fun of this one guy because he looked like a wrestler. I also got them to play truckers atlas, which wasn't on the set list. Isaac almost fell off the stage like 4 times, and we had to keep catching him. He also forgot where his beer was, so we had to point that out to him as well. Then they played a 20 minute version of tundra/desert. I can honestly say that it was a life altering experience. Basically, everyone on this list needs to see modest mouse. Even if it means killing four or five people. It's worth it. -matt
[MMouse]: re: modest mouse/cleveland
um, actually like i said, i think i forgot a couple and i didn't know a few... so that makes about 15 in all. considering they played for about two hours i thought it was a damn fine show. tyler
Re: [MMouse]: re: cities.
> As far as Portland is concerned, if you think that this city is full > of arrogant people then you really haven't been to other cities. In my > humble opinion this is one of the most friendly, laid back, cities to > exist. It just might be the most. The east coast for sure has nothing > but cities that ignore you unless you know where to go, and any of most > of the others people are just to busy to notice or care about you. > I do like New Orleans though (atleast, only for a couple of weeks at the > most). Nope, not #1, Fremont in Seattle. That is the most laid back and cool neighborhood on the planet. Portland might come in #2 but Fremont takes the cake. They have a giant mock-up of a rocketship labeled, "The Center of the Universe" and every other person is wearing tie-dye. Oh, and there is the most kick-ass record store ever there, its called sonic boom records. ~Mike
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n878
<< Newcastle is reserved for special occasions, and the Harp/Guiness black & tan combo for those very special and very inebriated occasions. >> harp and guinness isnt really a black and tan. more of a half and half. the only real black and tan is bass on the bottom, with guinness on top. the irish over the english.
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modest mouse.v001.n878
hey guys. i've sort of fallen behind in my reading but i thought i would go ahead and give you my perspective of the show at the metro. i was hoping to see some of you but it never happened. maybe next time. anyway, my friends and i were the very first people in line which helped us procure a front and center position pressed against the steel railing. i really enjoyed devil in a woodpile. they had wonderful stage presence and my roommate and i had quite a time conceptualizing what their home lives would be like. i thought that califone's music was exceptional but their performance was, at most, lacking. i could listen to their cd in the car but i have no need to ever see them live again. modest mouse was perfect. there really were few people gettin their dance on but it didn't really seem to affect the overall air of enjoyment and satisfaction in the room. it must have been a chicago thing. to assist jenny, yes at one point isaac did jump off the stage, right in front of me. he tried to keep singing lyrics towards the microphone but his voice was not reaching it, then he tried singing into the guitar pick up again but that also had little effect. then he writhed and played for a bit longer and returned to the stage. overall, i thought the show was great. like others, i could have stood to hear trailer trash or tundra/desert but i really enjoyed the new songs that they played and i found the balance between new music and old to be executed wonderfully. i only hope to see them again and be just as pleased. in regards to the T-shirts being sold. they weren't modest mouse t-shirts. they show, dubbed "noise pop 2000" was sponsored by some ".com" company and it was shirts branded with their logo and the title of the show that were being sold. i bought one only to have a memento since my will call tickets were not there, only my name on a list so i didn't have a commemorative ticket stub. anyway, rambled on too long. later. izzy Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[MMouse]: re: beer snobs.
To me there is something very scary about beer that cost less than 4 bucks (unless, of course, you like malt liqueur). i grew up in the land of piss beer and when I came up to the northwest i just couldn't see the point in drinking that kind of beer anymore. i agree with matt who said that a beer snob is someone who simply like beer that tastes good. i drink lots of black bier and the selection here is prime (Guinness is still my favorite though). Also, all of the "beer snobs" I know only talk about beer to other "beer snobs", unless of course you strike up a conversation with one on that line. I do agree though that the worlds best beer comes from across the atlantic (mainly Ireland). As far as Portland is concerned, if you think that this city is full of arrogant people then you really haven't been to other cities. In my humble opinion this is one of the most friendly, laid back, cities to exist. It just might be the most. The east coast for sure has nothing but cities that ignore you unless you know where to go, and any of most of the others people are just to busy to notice or care about you. I do like New Orleans though (atleast, only for a couple of weeks at the most). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MMouse]: real beer Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:29:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A beer snob not only insists on drinking expensive beer, but also a beer snob insists on making their preferences therein heard, and heard loudly. Nothing worse than an earful when it's already enough trouble just trying to stomach your six pack of milwaukee's best ice pounders. Another thing that bugs me is people who insist that they don't like being drunk. Drink soda pop for christs sake. ___ Ben Hubbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] _
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n875
>>"I was really impressed by the reaction the got for an encore...not >>something >>you >> usually see at an indie show" >jeez, what shows have you gone to? I have gone to many shows where there is no encore, and i found it a pleasant surprise that they were going to have one... It was nice to see what i thought was a great deal of excitement and energy come from the crowd.
Re: [MMouse]: Re: amy knows what's up...
> i haven't seen one in a while. 7-up seems to be making a > comeback, advertising wise anyway. i'm not a lemon lime soda > kid, but 7-up is the best. 7-up...make 7-UP yours! > thanks amy! you know what i'm sayin'! you got it easy, shit, my > mom smoked cigarettes and drank coffee 24/7 when she was > pregnant with me, luckily i only picked up the coffee habit. i > only drink one strong cup a day though, then it's coke or dew > the rest of the day. woah my mom doesn't smoke or drink coffee thankfully so i don't have to deal with either. waking up to coffee for me is like waking up to death. pop really kills the enamel on your teeth tho, but then again so does smoking and drinking coffee i'm sure. ugh why must processed food and beverages taste so good? has anyone heard of a place on lake st. in minneapolis called Northern Sun? they have awesome stuff...tom tomorrow crap like "SPARKY FOR PRESIDENT" and that one cartoon where the woman is like "i'd like some more THINGS please!" they just have awesome stuff. they also have cool ralph nader shirts and anti-corporation crap out the butt. > also re: american psycho. it's not that i didn't like it, i just > wanna know what the deal was at the end. i hate not knowing > endings. was he insane? or just sick? there is a > difference...like does he need medication, and then he wouldn't > kill, or is he just possessed and would kill no matter what? i think he was sick. he didn't seem insane so much as just really sick...i don't think an insane person would be able to live such a stable life and also kill. i think a sick person is much more capable of this. and the fact that it got so overwhelming by the end of the story only points him in the direction of sickness even more so. plus, i'm pretty sure the ending was that we were sort of inside his head and we were supposed to be him, in a way..unable to recognize reality and fiction. > dr. pepper sucks... YOU'VE LOST MY VOTE, MISTER. i'm addicted to diet dr. pepper and while i admit that dr. pepper is a little sweet IT'S STILL THE SHIT. ok. two weird/cool things. #1 the sheriff here in my county is in court today for beating up all these people because he's power hungry. i hope he loses. #2 i saw suburbia at alco (YES!) yesterday and yet it's not at the video stores in town. what the hell is going on with that? they don't have either at the video stores and yet it's available at a fucking wal-mart type place? anyway, the movie wasn't that great but i'm gonna buy it anyway :P - amy
[MMouse]: Re: Bad places to live... *AND* comments on cider!!
i can't completely disagree with your assesment of my choices on places to live. but, as i am a fly-by-the-seat-of-my-pants kinda girl (dear god, please don't let anyone notice that i just quoted 'pretty woman'), i am open for suggestions on where on the west coast is GOOD to live. nix on ventura, and san diego, as i've already lived there, too. but, please, someone point me in a direction. i need out of the Bay Area. Out, out, out. Now, about cider -- as i am ALLERGIC to beer, i can only drink cider. strongbow = okay in a ghetto pinch, likewise "hard cider," and i think that hornsby's tastes just like piss (ahem.) ... my favorite BRAND is "Ace" cider, out of California. And, of those, my favorite is their Honey Cider, which is really more of a mead. It's really good, swwet, but not cloying, full but not heavy. Yum. And honey has anti-oxidant properties. Oh, and it fucks me up. Mouse content: I had another weird dream about Isaac. Something about copper/brass coins that you could trade in for t-shirts, except Isaac looked at mine and told me it was invalid. Fucking jerk. love is just another word for nothing left to use, kate --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sounds to me like you've taken a tour of the shitholes on the west > coast. > No offense. As an added bonus, we get all this publicity in Rolling > Stone > and the like about being the anarchist capitol of the world, so if > any > black hooded hooligans take a holiday they hop a train here. = /// ... naked if i want to ... /// ::: http://www.zyworld.com/k8mercier/k8.htm ::: __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
RE: [MMouse]: re: modestmouse in cleveland/ticketmaster
>I doubt Modest Mouse will sell out the Agora Ballroom in >Cleveland. >Guided by Voices didn't sell it out this past December (on >a Friday night >no less). Anyways, if you want to be sure go ahead and >order from >Ticketmaster. As long as you do that within a day before I >think you'll >be fine. They'll put it on will-call. You'll just have to >show your >credit card and ID at the door I think. Mine is in the >mail...I'm happy. hey, you're right. they haven't sold out yet. i got my ticket today in fact. >Fvckclevo, if you want to meet up at the show that's cool. >I dunno what >shirt I'll wear or stuff like that. I have brown curly >hair, funny >eyebrows. I'm skinny white and tall. Hmm, sound like >every other indie >rocker on the list. OK well whatever email me back we can >figure >something out. Say meet at the bar at 10:32 or something. >Ha! ! hey, i'd like to meet you guys too. i've enjoyed meeting people from the list at shows. it's fun. you get to put faces to email names. i don't know when i'll roll in but... i'm 5'10, straight dark brown hair, tie-dyed shirt. if there's a meeting spot eventually let me know. if not, i'll just ask every tall guy with curly brown hair i see if his name is tyler. well, probably not. heh heh. later, jenny - Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere!
[MMouse]: re: modestmouse in cleveland/ticketmaster
I doubt Modest Mouse will sell out the Agora Ballroom in Cleveland. Guided by Voices didn't sell it out this past December (on a Friday night no less). Anyways, if you want to be sure go ahead and order from Ticketmaster. As long as you do that within a day before I think you'll be fine. They'll put it on will-call. You'll just have to show your credit card and ID at the door I think. Mine is in the mail...I'm happy. I'm psyched to see them. Saw them while college tripping in Seattle at RKCNDY a few months before it closed. Great show. Got in for free too because I was from Ohio. I guess they thought that was pretty cool or something because it's in a Modest Mouse song. Fvckclevo, if you want to meet up at the show that's cool. I dunno what shirt I'll wear or stuff like that. I have brown curly hair, funny eyebrows. I'm skinny white and tall. Hmm, sound like every other indie rocker on the list. OK well whatever email me back we can figure something out. Say meet at the bar at 10:32 or something. Ha! Tyler
Re: [MMouse]: Re: beer
At 04:03 PM 5/14/00 -0700, One Hundred Watt Warlock wrote: > > I have one word for everyone on this list: > > beer > >Newcastle or Caffrey's? I haven't had Caffrey's, but Newcastle used to be my favorite beer ever. It's even better on tap than from a bottle. Then I had Samuel Smith's Nut Brown Ale and everything changed. It puts Newcastle to shame in my opinion. You should give it a try sometime if you haven't already. It's worth it, promise. - Matt
[MMouse]: Re: beer
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [MMouse]: vanilla cokes and shit > > I have one word for everyone on this list: > beer Newcastle or Caffrey's? __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
[MMouse]: Re: amy knows what's up...
> From: "norske ho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MMouse]:the final cherry coke mail > > > if i only enjoyed something because advertisements told me > too, > > i'd be enjoying Pepsi which i happen to see ads for far more > > often. next thing you know you'll be telling smokers not to > > enjoy cigarettes because they'll kill them. enjoyment would > > happen to be the reason WHY people smoke or drink coke > > if advertisements decide what i should drink...it would > definitely be > sprite or pepsi and as much as i love to "obey my thirst" i > have to say > coke is the best regardless of their annoying as fuck > commercials where the > girl is like "teehee..oh carbonated cola on my nose hehe!" > fuck that. shut up mr. lupus person. pepsi is definitely the > most avid advertiser by all means, not coke. do they even > have coke commercials anymore? i haven't seen one in a while. 7-up seems to be making a comeback, advertising wise anyway. i'm not a lemon lime soda kid, but 7-up is the best. > anyway, i was born sorta addicted to caffeine. well not > really, but my > mom drank diet coke when she was pregnant with me and that's > kinda bad...so > i've been drinking pop since i couldn't even read and i'll be > damned if it was because the advertisements told me to. > i agree totally with the person on top of me..dot dot. thanks amy! you know what i'm sayin'! you got it easy, shit, my mom smoked cigarettes and drank coffee 24/7 when she was pregnant with me, luckily i only picked up the coffee habit. i only drink one strong cup a day though, then it's coke or dew the rest of the day. also re: american psycho. it's not that i didn't like it, i just wanna know what the deal was at the end. i hate not knowing endings. was he insane? or just sick? there is a difference...like does he need medication, and then he wouldn't kill, or is he just possessed and would kill no matter what? or is it just like a character study or whatever and we're not supposed really be concerned whther he gets it in the end? someone who read the book please email me how the book ends cuz i'm not gonna read it...and i heard Vig=rgin Suicides was cool, though i've yet to see it... dr. pepper sucks... __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
[MMouse]: Re: Tour Dates *New*
Disregard that I'm a dumbass... Can't even figure out a stupid tour date schedule... Adam Kind [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Adam Kind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 12:35 AM Subject: Tour Dates *New* > Hey who is Enemymine and why is MM touring with them?* > > > *See http://www.uprecords.com > > Adam Kind > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >
Re: [MMouse]: Re: off topic: slacker
In a message dated 5/11/00 10:56:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I would defintely say that the transitions are the movie are deliberate (as opposed to random). >> all i meant by random was that the people don't necessarily know each other like you would expect from another movie.
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n863
I've never heard Godspeed You Black Emperor although I've been planning to check them out for a while. However, all of you godspeed fans should check out Molasses. Molasses is made up up of memebers of Godspeed You Black Emperor. They play this amazing, quiet, haunting music. I saw them on tour last year having never heard of them before. Sadly there were only about 10 people at the show, but I have to rank it among the top 5 shows I've been to. Everyone ifn the club was completely blown away. It was great. And they played this incredible version of Amazing Grace. Molasses is on tour in June I think so if they're playing in your town I HIGHLY recommend them. -Bruce
Re: [MMouse]: re: Jones Soda
I've never heard of their vanilla cola, but the strawberry lime is great!...I really have nothing else to add... ~Mike In a message dated 2000-05-11 10:25:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > usually, i say that chocolate coke wins, hands-down, when it comes to diners. > > but, i urge all on this list to hunt down jones soda at a deli or whatnot > near you, and try their vanilla cola. m. > > it's the best brown carbonated liquid your tastebuds will ever dance in. > > star
RE: [MMouse]: Re: rollingstone
I know what you mean... little mistakes that completely discredit the author's knowledge of what they're writing about. The worst is when that sort of thing happens in a record review; the critic's entire argument just completely falls apart because a little mistake reveals that they have no idea what they're talking about. I read a review of Pavement's "Terror Twilight" and the critic was bashing it going on about how Pavement were boring and stale and irrelevent in 1999... and then he goes on to say something about "lead singer Mark Ibold"; you just want to say "ok, nevermind... forget I asked your opinion". -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 12:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MMouse]: Re: rollingstone In a message dated 5/11/00 12:44:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > In accordance with their user regulations, NAPSTER has banned 300,000 > Metallica fans from its site for allegedly trading copyrighted songs by the > band illegally it's a program that they're blocked from; not a site! why can't these people take two seconds to factcheck. sorry, i know this is prolly dead for most of you, but it just annoys the hell out of me. star
[MMouse]: Re: off topic: slacker
I agree that it's one of the best films I've seen from the 90's...I don't think that the people are "random." While there is no narrative plot which follows a particular path I would defintely say that the transitions are the movie are deliberate (as opposed to random). Tyler
[MMouse]: Re: rollingstone
In a message dated 5/11/00 12:44:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > In accordance with their user regulations, NAPSTER has banned 300,000 > Metallica fans from its site for allegedly trading copyrighted songs by the > band illegally it's a program that they're blocked from; not a site! why can't these people take two seconds to factcheck. sorry, i know this is prolly dead for most of you, but it just annoys the hell out of me. star
[MMouse]: Re: american psycho
In a message dated 5/10/00 9:49:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > American Psycho confused the hell out of me! maybe i should read > the book? there was no closure... > the book is a whole different (and much more violent) trip. the film wasn't supposed to have closure. i won't say more, because i don't want to ruin it for anyone who hasn't seen it, so email me privately if you're interested in discussing. . . thinking the film was far more brilliant than most people gave it credit for, star
[MMouse]: re: flavored cola
usually, i say that chocolate coke wins, hands-down, when it comes to diners. but, i urge all on this list to hunt down jones soda at a deli or whatnot near you, and try their vanilla cola. m. it's the best brown carbonated liquid your tastebuds will ever dance in. star
Re: [MMouse]: re: road trips
ill be driving 300 from philly to boston and back to philly to catch both those shows, and make the announcment here, ill be driving 3000 miles to see them in San Diego along with starting an internship there for the summer, so leigh better pick me up a ticket dusty "pronounced with an usty"
[MMouse]: re: road trips
I will be driving about 300 miles to Gainesville, Florida from Miami. I intended to stay in Boston to see them before I went home, but as we all know by now, tickets are like your best friend's sister. hot and flat. I have no idea what that means. Joey
[MMouse]: [MMOUSE] Re: Godspeed You Black Emperor
9.9.99 was the date. There I was, new to Boston. My first show at the Middle East. I went to see Godspeed You Black Emperor! based on a tip from my friend. I had never heard them. It remains the most amazing thing I had ever seen in my life. The middle east upstairs was packed, and NO ONE would speak. Everyone was dead silent, completely abosrbed in what was going on around them. There were about 11 people on stage, and 3 projectors broadcast images of people and streets and anything else in black and white onto a screen behind them. It was a wall of sound. So if you ever get a chance to see them, please do. Joey
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n860
The show is now at the Galaxy Club in Deep Ellum in Dallas. Tickets go on sale today through ticketmaster (at least that's what they told me at the Galaxy Club when I called. Does anyone have any info on the Denton, Tx show? I've heard it's been moved from Rubber Gloves, possibly to the Ridlea Theater in Fort Worth. Does anyone have any more info? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: Re: [MMouse]: Re: bloodhound gang
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Re: [MMouse]: Re: bloodhound gang
In a message dated 5/9/00 5:02:57 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LOL << empty promises. >>
RE: [MMouse]: Re: bloodhound gang
empty promises. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 4:04 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [MMouse]: Re: bloodhound gang > > > whawhat does az have to do with anything. and leave me out of > the drama. i wont respond anymore >
Re: [MMouse]: Re: bloodhound gang
whawhat does az have to do with anything. and leave me out of the drama. i wont respond anymore
Re: [MMouse]: Re: bloodhound gang
C'mon, man, Arizona already has a bad name! No need to make it worse. On Tue, 9 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > all this is cool. but why are we doing this philosophy?? talk about music and > other funny shit like before. peace >
RE: [MMouse]: Re: bloodhound gang
I wouldn't exactly call talking about the bloodhound gang's inability to move through adolescence philosophy. Mark ~I named all the graves in the sand. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 9:43 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [MMouse]: Re: bloodhound gang > > > all this is cool. but why are we doing this philosophy?? talk > about music and > other funny shit like before. peace >
Re: [MMouse]: Re: bloodhound gang
i read it! so im bored?? ok are you trippin? lets use bigs words and sound smart next time too. geez. i think you get an A in english if that was what you were trying to prove. damn im tired. blood hound gang is funny. has that been estalbished yet? i forget the name of the cd but i think its their first one. with koo koo ka choo. thats a rad song -Jesse (your pretty when im drunk) ** and (if you want to blow up this place like another vietnam) email me privately :)
Re: [MMouse]: Re: bloodhound gang
all this is cool. but why are we doing this philosophy?? talk about music and other funny shit like before. peace
Re: [MMouse]: Re: bloodhound gang
and if you want me to read your letters dont make them so long. they scare me
Re: [MMouse]: Re: bloodhound gang
In a message dated 5/9/00 12:07:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, JessesSecret writes: if the last "stop being an asshole" bit i wrote was misinterpreted as being aimed at someone on the list who might have voiced a non-disliking opinion of the dreaful band in question, sincerest apologies. i was referring to jimmy pop and his tribe of goons. otherwise, if that's not what you're talking about, what the hell are you talking about? i would hate to think that in saying "different opinions. . .different biases" you are expressing a tolerance of intolerance (the shield by which assholes like jimmy pop hide behind), because i call bullshit on that. yeah, free speech, sure, but it does no good to sit by and let someone disparage another on the basis of that person's sex, race, sexual orientation, etc and not say something - too much tolerance (of intolerance in particular, since it's one of my few "hangups") leads to a lack of communication. and if there is no communication, then it is less likely that someone who is narrowminded or intolerant will ever be forced to try and look at things from a different, less hurtful perspective. anger? no. or maybe. what the hell, sure. frustration? yes, definitely. frustration that people like jimmy pop exist. "but the ladies took the shirts off of their own accord. . .jimmy pop was just enjoying the view," you might say. but then i say, look at the society in which women are at times put into a situation where overt sexuality and a dehumanization of themselves is seen to them as an only or one of few options of asserting control and independence. this isn't always the case, but i think maybe has more to do with smaller, less obvious situations like this than many would think, if they thought about it at all (as in beyond, it's all in fun). and i know that ultimately, a bloodhound gang concert is unimportant, but it does exist as a microcosm that is indicative of other problems in general, as does anything else. otherwise, i didn't bring any violence into this. unless someone was willing to bring me the heads of the bloodhound gang on sticks? . . .but i hadn't asked for that. yet. love and hugs and kisses and love, star ps anybody see the virgin suicides or american psycho yet? > everyone has their own opinions and there shouldnt be any form of violent > in the chat ring. geez everyone should know that everyone has different > opinions. because everyone also has different biases so nothing will get > proved with anger... peace
Re: [MMouse]: Re: bloodhound gang
everyone has their own opinions and there shouldnt be any form of violent in the chat ring. geez everyone should know that everyone has different opinions. because everyone also has different biases so nothing will get proved with anger... peace
[MMouse]: Re: me!
In a message dated 5/8/00 8:16:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > amen, sister. er, that's amen, brother. but it's okay, happens frequently. and at times i think it'd be better (or at least more interesting) to be a girl anyway. boyishly, star
Re: [MMouse]: Re: bloodhound gang
amen, sister. >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [MMouse]: Re: bloodhound gang >Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 21:29:42 EDT > >fuck the bloodhound gang, and fuck jimmy pop. he's such a misogynist >asshole >homophobe. his band can just die. i saw him on loveline or something when >they were being noticed by the general public at large the first time, for >that godawful "the roof is on fire" song, and every other comment he made >was >an allusion to somehow belittling or abusing women. and then he hides >behind >this whole "i don't think that beating up gay frenchmen in our video is >going >to cause other people to beat up gays" or "just because i sing about women >as >inhuman objects doesn't mean other people will treat them as such" >bullshit. >stop being an asshole, or stop rationalizing it. > >goddamnit i hate him, and goddamnit i hate that band. > >star Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[MMouse]: Re: bloodhound gang
fuck the bloodhound gang, and fuck jimmy pop. he's such a misogynist asshole homophobe. his band can just die. i saw him on loveline or something when they were being noticed by the general public at large the first time, for that godawful "the roof is on fire" song, and every other comment he made was an allusion to somehow belittling or abusing women. and then he hides behind this whole "i don't think that beating up gay frenchmen in our video is going to cause other people to beat up gays" or "just because i sing about women as inhuman objects doesn't mean other people will treat them as such" bullshit. stop being an asshole, or stop rationalizing it. goddamnit i hate him, and goddamnit i hate that band. star
[MMouse]: re: modest mouse in cleveland
At the Agora Theatre in Cleveland, Ohio Modest Mouse will be playing with Califone from Chicago and the Six Parts Seven from Kent. I don't know too much about Califone only that my friend's brother (ex- Red Red Meat, currently in Those Bastard Souls) is now their bassist. The Six Parts Seven are a great instrumental group from Kent, Ohio. Sort of like Tristeza with a (to my mind) more organic feel. I'm pumped. Tyler
RE: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n855
I believe that Matador has expressed an interest in releasing the album on vinyl if Epic doesn't want to. >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 4:12 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n855 > >does anyone know what the story is with epic and vinyl? will there be vinyl >for this album or is it cd only?
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n855
<< I am SO glad my team isn't a one trick pony. :) .mer. >> fuck that. kovalev is nasty. and youve only got about 3 or 4 tricks. or is it ponies. <> califone played with mm when they played amherst for free. a dreadful band. both times ive seen modest mouse they had awful bands with them. does anyone know what the story is with epic and vinyl? will there be vinyl for this album or is it cd only?
Re: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n853
It is in Seattle, Washington on the Seattle Center Grounds. It is right next to the Space Needle. Adam Kind [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: amna a. akbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 9:12 AM Subject: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n853 > when and where is the EMP/ > > [keep on keep keep on keep on keep on keep on keep on keep on keep on] > > >
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n853
when and where is the EMP/ [keep on keep keep on keep on keep on keep on keep on keep on keep on]
Re: [MMouse]: re: t-shirt giveaway
hey everyone i just wanted to say that i entered the free t-shirt contest and i hope i win and if i do maybe one of you can but it from me of ebay for one million dollars *said in an evil tone,a dr.evil tone hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah* *gary*
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n851
pardon my asking, but what the hell is "wrong on s many levels" about a t-shirt giveaway? If you don't get it, then nevermind. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[MMouse]: re: t-shirt giveaway
Why dontcha back that azz up. Tyler
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n850
In a message dated 05/07/2000 4:33:57 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << i will agree. i saw the apples in stereo live and was bored to the core. >> Since I live in Colorado, I see Apples pretty regularly, and they're a real on/off band -- either they're superb, or they're a snoozer. When they opened for Modest Mouse a couple years ago, they sucked royally, but when they open for High Lllamas, they were great. I really think Apples' new album is good, though. Loring Wirbel Monument, Colo. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n848
In a message dated 5/5/00 4:10:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > yeah, but Cherry Coke is always better exactly! star
[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n846
<< FRont page "martinez draws five game suspension" - baseball "blood sweat, gears"- a woman in DRAG RACING a thing on the kentucky derby and something on seattle pusshin >> i love hockey as much as anyone, but baseball is king. once the bruins were out of it - november - it was baseball season for me. i just root against the flyers now, and for bourque. i'm not a penguins fan, other than kovalev and the owner. but hockey will never get more coverage than baseball. nor should it. what drives me nuts is football in may will get as much press as hockey. fuck primeau.
[MMouse]: Re: moon and a cold place
In a message dated 5/3/00 11:35:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I can't see how anyone who has been > following Modest Mouse and their music couldn't see this as a very > natural, expected, and in my opinion, GREAT progression in their course > of musical existence. I am extremely excited about this album, I think > it's absolutely great, and while of course it is hard to let go of their > old sound, and everything they've done in the past, I don't find this > album to be dissappointing at all. ryan hmmm. . .it's interesting to hear this opinion. i think it's great that you've been able to warm up to the new album; i finally sat down and listened to the thing in its entirety three times over, and it's just not hitting me. i don't know that i see the progression from the last album to this, taking all of the band's material into consideration. i s'pose it's like, to use a bad analogy, taking a drink of what you think is cherry coke, only to find out it's actually just regular coke. it's not bad, by any means, but not what you're expecting, so you're maybe taken a little aback, and wishing you had some cherry coke instead, though you'll make do with what you've got, as it's not unbearable. but i still find myself stumbling across the production, and the multitude of overdubs and studio gimmickry. a perfect example would be "your life"/"life". . .i think the original japanese ep version was a perfectly good song. . .understated, as befitted the lyrics. the added guitar parts on the moon+antarctica version, though, just don't seem to fit, and detract from the song in a cluttering sort of way. i s'pose what i'm saying is that this album is such a departure from the previous stuff that i have a hard time seeing it as a progression so much as an attempt to just outright experiment with a new recording budget and utilities. i don't think that the band has taken great pains to sound sellable, and i don't think that even factors into it (lest anyone think i'm crying "sellout," which, as previous star posts should indicate, i find a laughable concept). i just don't know that the new sound is as befitting to the band's strengths as their previous stuff. i also have to say that i've been comparatively underwhelmed by the songs. i don't mean to seem negative. i mean, it's still heads above most of the stuff out there, and much of it is amazing in its own mouse way. but something seems to be . . . missing. relishing the delicious irony in seeing scientologist wack-o travolta say "stupid humans" in the battlefield earth preview, star
Re: [MMouse]: RE: modest mouse in austin
where is this place..i live in dallas...i know the austin area pretty decently..but not familiar with this place.. -- Tour de Force, Defacto, Ayuchuco! -- chris - Original Message - From: Melanie Haupt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 2:42 PM Subject: [MMouse]: RE: modest mouse in austin > OK, Texas listers who will be at the Austin show...let's determine a place > to meet before the show that night. I'm assuming everyone who's going is of > legal drinking age (please alert me otherwise). What does everyone say to > Lovejoy's? Around 8pm? Lemme know. > > Also, I'm definitely interviewing Isaac. Tomorrow morning, to be exact. So, > if there's anything you want me to ask, let me know! > > Cheers! > > Melanie >
[MMouse]: RE: metallica eats pieces of shit like you for breakfast
I am all for a metallica boycott site, I posted the rather lengthly Metallica v. Napster diatribe on the MM List v001.n842, anything I can do to help I will. I used to be a big fan back in H.S. (yes, I have the courage to admit it) but now they seem to be sniveling, whimpering (I hate to be trite) puppets to the big labels. Also, speaking of big labels it dawned on me that metallica is on Electra Records which is a subsidiary of Warner Brothers, which is if memory serves me correctly the first major label to cave-in to Tipper Gore's PRMC (Parent's Music Resource Center, the group that is responsible for rating the content of the albums and placing the Parental Advisory labels, or Tipper Stickers on them). So in essence they didn't like free speech then (remember the raid on Jello Biafra's house?!?)and they don't like it now. Rick "I had to rant (again)" Miller __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
[MMouse]: RE: modest mouse in austin
I'm there, what is the address of Lovejoy's? Brad >From: Melanie Haupt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: modest mouse in austin >Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 12:42:16 -0700 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >OK, Texas listers who will be at the Austin show...let's determine a place >to meet before the show that night. I'm assuming everyone who's going is of >legal drinking age (please alert me otherwise). What does everyone say to >Lovejoy's? Around 8pm? Lemme know. > >Also, I'm definitely interviewing Isaac. Tomorrow morning, to be exact. So, >if there's anything you want me to ask, let me know! > >Cheers! > >Melanie >
Re: [MMouse]: RE: running
after I saw the movie Run Lola Run I got so tired of looking at her running that I just don't... unless I have to catch the shuttle to take me up the hill to class or if I'm trying to dodge an art history professor because I owe her a year old paper. In which case..blah blah blah
Re: [MMouse]: Re: emo
anything can be emo. it has been associated to a certain sound now though. on jade tree pedro the lion is emo to me so is promse ring. then there is braid on polyvinyl. and joan of arc and jets to brazil and burning airlines but who cares anyway music is music... geez this whole "emo" classification is messed up jesse
[MMouse]: RE: running
I used to run track in High School, but now I'm 24 and have developed a habit that usually involves the PBR and about a pack of cigarettes a day, so I think those nice little jogs around the track are somewhat out of the picture. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: [MMouse]: Re: emo
uh oh, i think i opened a rather large can of worms. anyone is free to debate this with me off the list, because i doubt many care, but i contend (along with a vocal minority) that emo is long dead and in the ground. i dont really want to take the time to explain that comment right now, but like i said, if you want to chat about it, email me. On Tue, 2 May 2000, tyler drosdeck wrote: > > and i hate to burst your bubble, but there are no "emo" bands on either > > jade tree or polyvinyl records. never were. that genre died in 1995 when > > portraits of past broke up. > > Hahahahahahahaha... > > I'm sorryhuh? > Aloha is great. Everything else on Polyvinyl is uninteresting to me. > I find nothing on Jade Tree of any interest. > Definetely Emo-core though. > > Tyler > >
[MMouse]: Re: emo
> and i hate to burst your bubble, but there are no "emo" bands on either > jade tree or polyvinyl records. never were. that genre died in 1995 when > portraits of past broke up. Hahahahahahahaha... I'm sorryhuh? Aloha is great. Everything else on Polyvinyl is uninteresting to me. I find nothing on Jade Tree of any interest. Definetely Emo-core though. Tyler
[MMouse]: RE: modest mouse in austin
OK, Texas listers who will be at the Austin show...let's determine a place to meet before the show that night. I'm assuming everyone who's going is of legal drinking age (please alert me otherwise). What does everyone say to Lovejoy's? Around 8pm? Lemme know. Also, I'm definitely interviewing Isaac. Tomorrow morning, to be exact. So, if there's anything you want me to ask, let me know! Cheers! Melanie
[MMouse]: RE: running
Title: RE: running No, but I know who you are. All my friends in high school did track and x-country, and I managed the track team, so I know your type; you're a nut and a chick-magnet! I can't imagine x-country/track kids being into Modest Mouse though! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 2:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MMouse]: running any other kids on this list run track or cross??or run for fun???
Re: [MMouse]: Re: Mendoza lyrics
heres a newsflash for ya, dude. i own the cd containing the lyrics i ripped. thats right, its sitting right here, alphabetized in between the new mercury program and maximillian colby. its okay if i dont like lyrics, you know? just becuase i dont like the ones on that song and think they are far from being anything more profound that some 7th grader's try at poetry doesnt mean i am automatically in need of a "fuck you" and an accusation of listening to strictly polyvinyl and jade tree records bands. it is possible, even though you seem to know that youre music is better than mine, for me to listen to both. what a concept. and i hate to burst your bubble, but there are no "emo" bands on either jade tree or polyvinyl records. never were. that genre died in 1995 when portraits of past broke up. and im actually sorry that i have the mendoza line cd. for the most part, its pretty bland. even worse, the lyrics that were quoted are almost identical to about three other songs on the album. kindercore made a good, good move. On Tue, 2 May 2000, Philip Smoker wrote: > I'd just like to say FUCK YOU to all the people who > are mocking the Mendoza lyrics as I thought they were > charming and sweet. Sometimes the simplest lyrics can > sound so profound given the right voice and backing > instrumentation. I'd love to rip open the CD > collections of those who call such lyrics "insipid" to > discover the intellectually stimulating treats that > are to be found within. Shit, I should start quoting > the simpler lyrics of any number of bands that I > constantly see worshipped on this mailing list, shall > I start with Polyvinyl, Jade Tree, or elsewhere? > > I'll take that emo to yr dome piece, son. > *phiL* > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ >
RE: [MMouse]: Re: Mendoza lyrics
Right back at cha. Without music, lyrics are poetry, and as poetry, that song is shit. If this were a poetry discussion board, I would have posted a crit. and probably said something disparaging about fourteen year olds with word processors. This isn't a poetry discussion board, and I don't think anyone wants it to become one, so we said something cynical and let it die. As for rummaging through my CD collection to find my less "intellectually stimulating" selections, I didn't post "lyrics of the day" to an open forum. I thought those lyrics were crap, and I said so. I did not (nor did anyone) pass any judgment over the person who originally posted them, as you seem so quick to do of us. Check yourself before you wreck yourself. Mark > I'd just like to say FUCK YOU to all the people who > are mocking the Mendoza lyrics as I thought they were > charming and sweet. Sometimes the simplest lyrics can > sound so profound given the right voice and backing > instrumentation. I'd love to rip open the CD > collections of those who call such lyrics "insipid" to > discover the intellectually stimulating treats that > are to be found within. Shit, I should start quoting > the simpler lyrics of any number of bands that I > constantly see worshipped on this mailing list, shall > I start with Polyvinyl, Jade Tree, or elsewhere? > > I'll take that emo to yr dome piece, son. > *phiL* > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ >
[MMouse]: Re: Mendoza lyrics
i would like to make a shout-out to my favorite mm list kid, phil. woo phil! those lyrics are adorable and i was really surprised to see people attack them like that. silly. lots of sweet lovin', stephanie >I'd just like to say FUCK YOU to all the people who >are mocking the Mendoza lyrics as I thought they were >charming and sweet. Sometimes the simplest lyrics can >sound so profound given the right voice and backing >instrumentation. I'd love to rip open the CD >collections of those who call such lyrics "insipid" to >discover the intellectually stimulating treats that >are to be found within. Shit, I should start quoting >the simpler lyrics of any number of bands that I >constantly see worshipped on this mailing list, shall >I start with Polyvinyl, Jade Tree, or elsewhere? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[MMouse]: Re: Mendoza lyrics
Title: Re: Mendoza lyrics He's right! Some of my favorite lyrics are absolutely meaningless without the soul and music to back them up. Case in point: my all-time favorite lyric is "This is the city life". Stupid, huh? Well I get shivers and nearly cry every time I hear it. -Original Message- From: Philip Smoker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MMouse]: Re: Mendoza lyrics I'd just like to say FUCK YOU to all the people who are mocking the Mendoza lyrics as I thought they were charming and sweet. Sometimes the simplest lyrics can sound so profound given the right voice and backing instrumentation. I'd love to rip open the CD collections of those who call such lyrics "insipid" to discover the intellectually stimulating treats that are to be found within. Shit, I should start quoting the simpler lyrics of any number of bands that I constantly see worshipped on this mailing list, shall I start with Polyvinyl, Jade Tree, or elsewhere? I'll take that emo to yr dome piece, son. *phiL* __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
