Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-02 Thread Foo JH

Hi all,

Just want to share something I read today (fairly old news) at ApacheLounge:
http://www.apachelounge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1907

Since many (most?) people who use Apache from Apache Lounge also use 
mod_fcgid and/or mod_perl, it seems that 2.2.5 will remain the best 
Apache version to use until Apache 2.2.7 comes out.


It is expected that new versions of mod_fcgid and mod_perl will be 
needed for Apache 2.2.7, because the proposed changes will not be 
backward-compatible with Apache 2.2.5 and earlier.


My point is that for Win32 modperlers, you may want to check out 2.2.5, 
and hold out for 2.2.7 (and a potentially new release of modperl to 
support it).


Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-02 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Foo JH wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Just want to share something I read today (fairly old news) at
> ApacheLounge:
> http://www.apachelounge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1907
> 
> Since many (most?) people who use Apache from Apache Lounge also use
> mod_fcgid and/or mod_perl, it seems that 2.2.5 will remain the best
> Apache version to use until Apache 2.2.7 comes out.

Right.  Except there is no 2.2.5; you are best staying with 2.2.4 IF you
can live without 'rotatelogs' or other piped logs, AND you need mod_perl
or mod_fcgid.  If you don't use these modules you are best off using 2.2.6
which was released.

> It is expected that new versions of mod_fcgid and mod_perl will be
> needed for Apache 2.2.7, because the proposed changes will not be
> backward-compatible with Apache 2.2.5 and earlier.
> 
> My point is that for Win32 modperlers, you may want to check out 2.2.5,
> and hold out for 2.2.7 (and a potentially new release of modperl to
> support it).

Again, there is no 2.2.5, so there is no purpose to your struggling with
it and any associated bugs.  Also Tom Donovan has cautioned users against
using the hacks they applied to 2.2.6 to get it to work, use it if you
must but it's apropos of nothing to the final corrections.

Of course 2.2.4 essentially worked, while 2.2.7 will give the modperl'ers
on Windows something they have BEGGED for forever, the chance to see parsing
errors at startup from their httpd.conf file(!!!)

ALL 2.x versions of Apache on Windows had never hooked up the pseudo-posix
stderr of MSVCRT, which is why fprintf(stderr...) constructs from within
modperl rarely did what they were expected to do.  With the 2.2.6 version,
things broke further as stdin went away after it was consumed (it was replaced
with NULL, but not at the MSVCRT layer).

If you update to svn.apache.org/repos/asf/apr/apr/branches/1.2.x/ today,
you'll find the 80/20 has been resolved; we now plug into pseudo-posix
handles.  There are still some lingering issues to be fixed in httpd itself.
Tom Donovan and Randy have already approved with Win32 fixes, but we still
are waiting on an httpd'er to review the essential fix to log.c.  I'll
send another note to the modperl community when we believe that the
svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/ is ready for intensive
review and testing, after that patch is applied (same applies to 2.0.x, needs
patch review, while apr/branches/0.9.x/ has already been patched).

Bill


Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-03 Thread Foo JH


Right.  Except there is no 2.2.5; 
2.2.5 is not released on the Apache web site. Those who want this 
version can get it at ApacheLounge.



Of course 2.2.4 essentially worked, while 2.2.7 will give the modperl'ers
on Windows something they have BEGGED for forever, the chance to see parsing
errors at startup from their httpd.conf file(!!!)
  

Yes! It's been egging me for the longest blistering time!




Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-03 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Foo JH wrote:
> 
>> Right.  Except there is no 2.2.5; 
> 2.2.5 is not released on the Apache web site. Those who want this
> version can get it at ApacheLounge.

They can get it from SVN too, that doesn't mean it's an ASF version.

The ASF specifically rejected it, which makes it's persistence a pretty
sorry state of affairs for the hoster :)

Bill


Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-03 Thread Octavian Rasnita

Regarding the best Apache for Windows, I have a problem running Apache under
windows and I think this thread might help me.

I tried Apache 2.2.4 with and without SSL support, and Apache 2.2.6 from
apachelounge, but they still don't work.

I read that Apache 2.2.6 from apachelounge should work with mod_perl. Isn't
this true?

They all install correctly, and I can even start the server with the default
httpd.conf. It gave an error just a single time with the default httpd.conf.

If I install mod_perl, the percentage of the times when Apache doesn't want
to start and give errors is much bigger, but still most of the times it
starts and works.

If I install Catalyst and use a certain Catalyst app (that doesn't have
errors), Apache can start very rarely.

When I try to start the server, it appears an error message "Visual Studio
just in time debugger" that doesn't give any helpful information. Most of
the times in the error log is not printed absolutely anything, and sometimes
it prints that the main thread couldn't start the child thread and that the
thread was closed, or sometimes it prints that the main thread received a
kill signal and that it closes.

I had VS6 and VS.net 2005 installed, but I've uninstalled them both. I have 
no program that starts with "Microsoft" in the Add-Remove programs list, but 
that Visual Studio just in time debugger appears.


Do you have any idea what could have happened? I think it should be a
problem of Apache for Windows, or a Windows issue, or a hardware issue, but 
I don't know how to

test it.

Thank you for any idea.

Octavian

- Original Message - 
From: "Foo JH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment





Right.  Except there is no 2.2.5;

2.2.5 is not released on the Apache web site. Those who want this version
can get it at ApacheLounge.


Of course 2.2.4 essentially worked, while 2.2.7 will give the modperl'ers
on Windows something they have BEGGED for forever, the chance to see
parsing
errors at startup from their httpd.conf file(!!!)


Yes! It's been egging me for the longest blistering time!






Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-03 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> 
> I tried Apache 2.2.4 with and without SSL support, and Apache 2.2.6 from
> apachelounge, but they still don't work.

Simply put; Apache 2.2.4 did work.

The one-off build at AL of 2.2.6 isn't 2.2.6; 2.2.5 represents an aborted
attempted at a release, none of the above represents what will be in 2.2.7
for you to move forward.  In light of this;

You are best off, needing this today, to see the earlier posts on this
list of which combinations of binaries for 2.2.4 were known to work.

Bill


Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-03 Thread Foo JH

Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Regarding the best Apache for Windows, I have a problem running Apache 
under

windows and I think this thread might help me.

I tried Apache 2.2.4 with and without SSL support, and Apache 2.2.6 from
apachelounge, but they still don't work.
I'm using 2.2.4 now on Win32, and it's running good for me. Much much 
better than the 2.x.x series from the Apache site. Works on XP and W2k3.


A point to note though is that you should not use the modperl 
compilation from AL. Use the standard-issue one from theoryx5. Install 
libapreq2 from theoryx5 also.


Apache 2.2.6 is not recommended for Win32 iirc. Don't touch it.

Of course, your problems may be compounded (but I'm not sure) by the 
other components you are using (Catalyst)? For me, I'm just living off 
HTML::Template, DBI, and some other libraries. You may want to be more 
explicit on the errors you're encountering, and at which points did the 
install break.


Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-03 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Foo JH wrote:
> Octavian Rasnita wrote:
>> Regarding the best Apache for Windows, I have a problem running Apache
>> under
>> windows and I think this thread might help me.
>>
>> I tried Apache 2.2.4 with and without SSL support, and Apache 2.2.6 from
>> apachelounge, but they still don't work.
> I'm using 2.2.4 now on Win32, and it's running good for me. Much much
> better than the 2.x.x series from the Apache site. Works on XP and W2k3.
> 
> A point to note though is that you should not use the modperl
> compilation from AL. Use the standard-issue one from theoryx5. Install
> libapreq2 from theoryx5 also.

EXACTLY.

Because you used theoryx5's perl/modperl/libapreq2 built for VC8, along with
the AL build of 2.2.4 ALSO built for VC8, everything is dandy.

Equally if you used ActiveState perl (built VC6) + a VC6 build of modperl and
libapreq2 with the ASF distribution of httpd 2.2.4, everything is dandy.

Mix and match at your own risk.


Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-03 Thread Randy Kobes

On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:


Foo JH wrote:

Octavian Rasnita wrote:

Regarding the best Apache for Windows, I have a problem running Apache
under
windows and I think this thread might help me.

I tried Apache 2.2.4 with and without SSL support, and Apache 2.2.6 from
apachelounge, but they still don't work.

I'm using 2.2.4 now on Win32, and it's running good for me. Much much
better than the 2.x.x series from the Apache site. Works on XP and W2k3.

A point to note though is that you should not use the modperl
compilation from AL. Use the standard-issue one from theoryx5. Install
libapreq2 from theoryx5 also.


EXACTLY.

Because you used theoryx5's perl/modperl/libapreq2 built for VC8, along with
the AL build of 2.2.4 ALSO built for VC8, everything is dandy.

Equally if you used ActiveState perl (built VC6) + a VC6 build of modperl and
libapreq2 with the ASF distribution of httpd 2.2.4, everything is dandy.

Mix and match at your own risk.


Actually, I use VC6 to build all the ppm packages in our
theoryx5 repository, including mod_perl and libapreq2, so
as to be compatible with ActivePerl (also built with VC6).
But your point of mixing and matching at your own risk
is well-taken - the fact that the VC6 mod_perl package
appears to work with the AL build of Apache built with
VC8 may just mean that the testing done hasn't yet
encountered the problems that could in principle be
there; see, for example,
 http://search.cpan.org/src/SHAY/Win32-SharedFileOpen-3.36/INSTALL
for an instance that is known to illustrate the problem.

I haven't looked into this, but the fact that AL's
mod_perl (compiled, presumably, with VC8) doesn't
work with, again presumably, ActivePerl (compiled
with VC6) may be another example of the dangers
of mixing components compiled with VC6 and VC8.

--
best regards,
Randy


Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-03 Thread Octavian Rasnita

Here it is what it happened:

I've installed:
Apache/2.2.4 (Win32), Server built:   Jan  9 2007 23:17:20
perl, v5.8.8 built for MSWin32-x86-multi-thread built 822
latest mod_perl from TheoryX

After installing them, I started the web server and it worked fine and I 
could access the success page.

I have tried stopping and starting it for more times with success.

Then I've created a default Catalyst app named "Testing", using:

catalyst Testing

I was able to access the "Testing" application using its internal web 
server, so it is working.


Then I've created a virtual host for calling that Catalyst application. Here 
is the content of that virtualhost:



ServerName www.brk.ro
ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DocumentRoot e:/web/Testare/root

ErrorLog e:/web/Testare/logs/error.txt
CustomLog e:/web/Testare/logs/access.txt common


PerlRequire "e:/web/Testare/script/preload.pl"


Options Indexes
Order allow,deny
Allow from all

SetHandler perl-script
PerlResponseHandler Testare




Of course, I created the directory "logs" under the "Testing" app directory, 
and I also created the program preload.pl that just "use" the "Testing" 
module.


And I tried starting the server, but it appeared an error window "Visual 
Studio just in time debugger" and it also printed the following errors in 
the command prompt:


net start apache2

The Apache2 service is starting.
The Apache2 service could not be started.
A system error has occurred.
System error 1067 has occurred.
The process terminated unexpectedly.

In the error log it appeared the following errors:
...
[Wed Oct 03 20:19:38 2007] [notice] Child 3008: Starting 250 worker threads.
[Wed Oct 03 20:19:38 2007] [notice] Child 3008: Starting thread to listen on 
port 80.
[Wed Oct 03 20:19:59 2007] [notice] Parent: Received shutdown signal --  
Shutting down the server.
[Wed Oct 03 20:19:59 2007] [notice] Child 3008: Exit event signaled. Child 
process is ending.

[Wed Oct 03 20:20:00 2007] [notice] Child 3008: Released the start mutex
[Wed Oct 03 20:20:01 2007] [notice] Child 3008: Waiting for 250 worker 
threads to exit.
[Wed Oct 03 20:20:01 2007] [notice] Child 3008: All worker threads have 
exited.

[Wed Oct 03 20:20:01 2007] [notice] Child 3008: Child process is exiting

In order to be sure, I've repeated and I tried starting again the server for 
a few times.
2 times, the web server started with that Catalyst app, and I was able to 
use it.
The rest of the times it shown those errors. I didn't change absolutely 
anything between those trials, but I just tried stopping and restarting the 
server.


However it is strange that sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

Thank you.

Octavian

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Kobes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Foo JH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Octavian Rasnita" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment



On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:


Foo JH wrote:

Octavian Rasnita wrote:

Regarding the best Apache for Windows, I have a problem running Apache
under
windows and I think this thread might help me.

I tried Apache 2.2.4 with and without SSL support, and Apache 2.2.6 
from

apachelounge, but they still don't work.

I'm using 2.2.4 now on Win32, and it's running good for me. Much much
better than the 2.x.x series from the Apache site. Works on XP and W2k3.

A point to note though is that you should not use the modperl
compilation from AL. Use the standard-issue one from theoryx5. Install
libapreq2 from theoryx5 also.


EXACTLY.

Because you used theoryx5's perl/modperl/libapreq2 built for VC8, along 
with

the AL build of 2.2.4 ALSO built for VC8, everything is dandy.

Equally if you used ActiveState perl (built VC6) + a VC6 build of modperl 
and

libapreq2 with the ASF distribution of httpd 2.2.4, everything is dandy.

Mix and match at your own risk.


Actually, I use VC6 to build all the ppm packages in our
theoryx5 repository, including mod_perl and libapreq2, so
as to be compatible with ActivePerl (also built with VC6).
But your point of mixing and matching at your own risk
is well-taken - the fact that the VC6 mod_perl package
appears to work with the AL build of Apache built with
VC8 may just mean that the testing done hasn't yet
encountered the problems that could in principle be
there; see, for example,
 http://search.cpan.org/src/SHAY/Win32-SharedFileOpen-3.36/INSTALL
for an instance that is known to illustrate the problem.

I haven't looked into this, but the fact that AL's
mod_perl (compiled, presumably, with VC8) doesn't
work with, again presumably, ActivePerl (compiled
with VC6) may be another example of the dangers
of mixing components compiled with VC6 and VC8.

--
best regards,
Randy 




Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-03 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> 
> And I tried starting the server, but it appeared an error window "Visual
> Studio just in time debugger" and it also printed the following errors
> in the command prompt:

That's a crash.  Studio will give you all the info but it's harder to
navigate, for some information on obtaining the dr watson backtrace see
http://httpd.apache.org/dev/debugging.html

Note you probably want to unpack

http://archive.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/symbols/apache_2.2.4-win32-x86-no_ssl-symbols.zip
(or
http://archive.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/symbols/apache_2.2.4-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8d-symbols.zip
if you had installed the ssl version)

directly into your apache 2.2 tree.  I don't know of availability of the
ActiveState symbols, nor TheoryX's, but if they exist it will make reading
that backtrace sooo much clearer.

Bill


Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-03 Thread Octavian Rasnita
Ok, but the strange thing is that the error appears even though I've 
uninstalled both VS6 and VS.net 2005.


A few days ago I had VS6 and VS.net installed, and that error provided some 
debug information (that I couldn't understand). So I went in VS.net and I 
set it to not show the debug info because I thought that that window might 
not appear anymore.


After that moment, the "Just in time debugger" error window use to appear 
but with a different message, telling that:


"""
Visual Studio Just-In-Time Debugger
An unhandled win32 exception occurred in httpd.exe [2996]. Just-In-Time 
debugging this exception failed with the following error: No installed
debugger has Just-In-Time debugging enabled. In Visual Studio, Just-In-Time 
debugging

can be enabled from Tools/Options/Debugging/Just-In-Time.
Check the documentation index for 'Just-in-time debugging, errors' for more 
information.

OK
"""

Well, I've uninstalled VS6 and VS.net, but this message still appears, so I 
have no where to go in Tools/Options/...


Octavian

- Original Message - 
From: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Octavian Rasnita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Randy Kobes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Foo JH" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment



Octavian Rasnita wrote:


And I tried starting the server, but it appeared an error window "Visual
Studio just in time debugger" and it also printed the following errors
in the command prompt:


That's a crash.  Studio will give you all the info but it's harder to
navigate, for some information on obtaining the dr watson backtrace see
http://httpd.apache.org/dev/debugging.html

Note you probably want to unpack

http://archive.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/symbols/apache_2.2.4-win32-x86-no_ssl-symbols.zip
(or
http://archive.apache.org/dist/httpd/binaries/win32/symbols/apache_2.2.4-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8d-symbols.zip
if you had installed the ssl version)

directly into your apache 2.2 tree.  I don't know of availability of the
ActiveState symbols, nor TheoryX's, but if they exist it will make reading
that backtrace sooo much clearer.

Bill 




Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-03 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> 
> Well, I've uninstalled VS6 and VS.net, but this message still appears,
> so I have no where to go in Tools/Options/...

You didn't bother to finish reading;

>> http://httpd.apache.org/dev/debugging.html

Which tells you how to enable/override drwtsn32 as your default error handler
(-i flag I think, offhand).


Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-03 Thread Foo JH



Because you used theoryx5's perl/modperl/libapreq2 built for VC8, along with
the AL build of 2.2.4 ALSO built for VC8, everything is dandy.

Equally if you used ActiveState perl (built VC6) + a VC6 build of modperl and
libapreq2 with the ASF distribution of httpd 2.2.4, everything is dandy.
  
Is there a VC6 build of modperl + libapreq2? I've been following the 
links on the ASF site, so it's always been theoryx5.


To date I've been using ActivePerl all the way, so it's still a combo of 
VC6 Perl + VC8 modperl. But so far so good...



Mix and match at your own risk.
  




Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-03 Thread Foo JH



I haven't looked into this, but the fact that AL's
mod_perl (compiled, presumably, with VC8) doesn't
work with, again presumably, ActivePerl (compiled
with VC6) may be another example of the dangers
of mixing components compiled with VC6 and VC8.

Point taken.



Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-03 Thread Foo JH
Sorry man, I'm not too familiar with Catalyst, so I can't pinpoint the 
problem. But if your tests are good with a clean install of Apache2 + 
mp2, you may want to check compiler used to build Catalyst (see Randy's 
email on the VC used for ActivePerl, Apache, and modperl). I suppose 
Catalyst is not a pure-perl implementation?


Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-03 Thread Octavian Rasnita
Catalyst uses very many CPAN modules, and I am sure that not all of them are 
pure perl.


I've compiled Catalyst using VS6, so if ActivePerl is compiled with the same 
compiler, and Apache and mod_perl the same, I don't think it should be a 
problem.


I have also tried using an older ppm binary of Catalyst but with the same 
results.


But I think I might have a problem with the hardware, because sometimes 
right after booting the system the computer doesn't start, but just keeps 
restarting and nothing appears on the display, and I need to power it off, 
wait a little then power it up again in order to make it boot.
That problem might be the same that causes Apache not work and I think the 
issue might be the motherboard.


So I will try to change it, because it is under the warranty, and I hope 
after that Apache will also work.


Octavian

- Original Message - 
From: "Foo JH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Octavian Rasnita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment


Sorry man, I'm not too familiar with Catalyst, so I can't pinpoint the 
problem. But if your tests are good with a clean install of Apache2 + mp2, 
you may want to check compiler used to build Catalyst (see Randy's email 
on the VC used for ActivePerl, Apache, and modperl). I suppose Catalyst is 
not a pure-perl implementation? 




Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-04 Thread Octavian Rasnita

From: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Octavian Rasnita wrote:


Well, I've uninstalled VS6 and VS.net, but this message still appears,
so I have no where to go in Tools/Options/...


You didn't bother to finish reading;


http://httpd.apache.org/dev/debugging.html


Which tells you how to enable/override drwtsn32 as your default error 
handler

(-i flag I think, offhand).


Yes I've enabled DrWatson and I put the files with symbols in Apache 
directory, however I can't find something that could help me in the DrWatson 
log file.


Octavian



Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-04 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> 
> Yes I've enabled DrWatson and I put the files with symbols in Apache
> directory, however I can't find something that could help me in the
> DrWatson log file.

Good.  Don't actually interrupt the program (the example using -g {PID}
to force the program to die).  Your server is doing well at that on it's
own :)  The crash is what you want to see, you should no longer be prompted
with the JustInTime debugger.

The next question is what does the crash dump of the *guilty* thread look
like?  You are looking for the word FAULT (all caps) in the drwatson output
from a crashed program to determine which thread segfaulted.

Bill


Fw: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-05 Thread Octavian Rasnita

Hi,

Here is a message from somebody that monitors the mod_perl mailing list but 
cannot send messages to it.

Can anyone comment?

Thank you.


Octavian,

I solved it by going back to Activestate 820. I also found that the
problem is not on Vista.
Both Apache 2.22 and 2.24 have the problem.
It can also be that because of some windows update the problems started.

perlInterpStart is one of a few tuning parameters that can change the
behaviour of the perlInterpreters, see the http://modperlbook.org/html/24-
3-1-Thread-Support.html.
perlInterpStart tells how many interpreters are started at startup.
You can set these parameters in the httpd.conf file of apache.

I have tested on different hardware and the problem is seen on all of the
computers with windows 2003sp2 and XPsp2.

Can you post this on the Modper list, hopefully someone else has an
answer. I still can not send to that list and do not know who to contact.

Kind regards,

Thomas

-Original Message-
From: "Octavian Rasnita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:01:17 +0300
Subject: Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment


Hi Thomas,

Thank you for your help.

Yes, I also found that this problem appears only when running larger
projects.
If I try to run a simple "It works" web page, it works. I saw that even
running a mod_perl program that just prints an "Hello world" text it
also
works (but not always).

If I try to run a Catalyst app, which uses very many CPAN modules, most
of
the times it doesn't work.

It is strange, because I had previously used Apache 2.2.4 with
ActivePerl
built 822 and mod_perl 2.0.3 and it works successfully on other
computers
running Windows XP Pro and XP MediaCenter.

Can you tell me what hardware you are using?
I think that this issue appeared because of my combination of hardware.

I am using an Intel Core 2 duo at 3 GHz, 2 GB of RAM at 1066 MHz, an
Assus
motherboard with an Intel chipset (P35... or something with 35 in its
name),
a Creative SB X-FI EXtremeGamer sound card, an NVidia video card (7100
if I
remember well), and a SATA 2 hard disk at 1 RPM.

Another thing... Can you please tell me what perlInterpStart means? How
can
I modify that parameter of perl?

And if you told that you also had this problem, can you tell me how do
you
made to solve it? Have you solved it by using ActivePerl 820?

I have read tens of forums and asked about my problem on more mailing
lists,
but with no success. Thank you very much for helping me.

Octavian

- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'Octavian Rasnita'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:18 PM
Subject: RE: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment


Octavian,

I am send you this direct because I have problems sending emails to
modperl
list ( not sure what is happening there).

I have found similar problems with Activestate 822 an Modperl 2.03 from
TheoryX.

The problems are only whith larger modperl projects. Some times after a
fresh restart it works, some time when I lower the perlInterpStart
parameter
it also works.

These problems where not there in version 820. So maybe you can try
running
with 820 to that helps.

Regards,

Thomas den Braber

> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: Octavian Rasnita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Verzonden: woensdag 3 oktober 2007 19:38
> Aan: Randy Kobes; William A. Rowe, Jr.
> CC: Foo JH; modperl@perl.apache.org
> Onderwerp: Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment
>
> Here it is what it happened:
>
> I've installed:
> Apache/2.2.4 (Win32), Server built:   Jan  9 2007 23:17:20
> perl, v5.8.8 built for MSWin32-x86-multi-thread built 822
> latest mod_perl from TheoryX
>
> After installing them, I started the web server and it worked fine
and I
> could access the success page.
> I have tried stopping and starting it for more times with success.
>
> Then I've created a default Catalyst app named "Testing", using:
>
> catalyst Testing
>
> I was able to access the "Testing" application using its internal web
> server, so it is working.
>
> Then I've created a virtual host for calling that Catalyst
application.
> Here
> is the content of that virtualhost:
>
> 
> ServerName www.brk.ro
> ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> DocumentRoot e:/web/Testare/root
>
> ErrorLog e:/web/Testare/logs/error.txt
> CustomLog e:/web/Testare/logs/access.txt common
>
> 
> PerlRequire "e:/web/Testare/script/preload.pl"
>
> 
> Options Indexes
> Order allow,deny
> Allow from all
>
> SetHandler perl-script
> PerlResponseHandler Testare
> 
> 
> 
>
> Of course, I created the directory "logs" under the "Testing" app
> directory,
> and

Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-05 Thread Octavian Rasnita

Hi,

I've tried installing ActivePerl 5.8.8 built 820 and with mod_perl 2.03 and 
Apache 2.2.4 the web server can start and works fine.


Could Active Perl 5.8.8 build 822 have a problem?

Octavian

- Original Message - 
From: "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Octavian Rasnita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Randy Kobes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Foo JH" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment



Octavian Rasnita wrote:


Well, I've uninstalled VS6 and VS.net, but this message still appears,
so I have no where to go in Tools/Options/...


You didn't bother to finish reading;


http://httpd.apache.org/dev/debugging.html


Which tells you how to enable/override drwtsn32 as your default error 
handler
(-i flag I think, offhand). 




Re: Best version of Apache for Win32 deployment

2007-10-05 Thread Randy Kobes

On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Octavian Rasnita wrote:


Hi,

I've tried installing ActivePerl 5.8.8 built 820 and with mod_perl 2.03 and 
Apache 2.2.4 the web server can start and works fine.


Could Active Perl 5.8.8 build 822 have a problem?


Are the same versions of all modules being used with both
ActivePerl 820 and 822 (outside of the core ones)?

Could you post a minimal version of the problem?

--
best regards,
Randy