Re: [MOPO] What to do?
Walter, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere on ebay about being able to make a complaint about unreasonable shipping charges. If I can find that information again, I'll post a link, but perhaps someone else on the list has more details... Cheers, Vesna From: Walter Reuben [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Walter Reuben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] What to do? Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 22:40:09 -0700 I bought 11 TV scripts from an ebay seller today, named bravo_george He listed the shipping charge as $7 for script, but he is now refusing to combine shipping and insisting that I pay him $91 for shipping them in one parcel. and what makes this more infuriating---he is about three miles from me but is refusing to let me pick them up in person, Do ebay rules about screwing people on shipping charges apply in this case? And, if they do, how do I ask that they be enforced? No, I did not ask him in advance because I could not have conceived of something so idiotic. Walter Reuben Walter Reuben, Inc. 500 North Harper Avenue Los Angeles CA 90048 USA Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (323) 651 3313 www.walterfilm.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] What to do?
Excessive Shipping Charge Policy http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-shipping.html?ssPageName=CMDV:AB __ Please visit my NEW Website for a huge range of Movie Posters, Lobby cards, Autographs and movie memorabilia: Website: www.moviemem.com Newsletter: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/newsletter.php Exhibitions: http://www.moviemem.com/pages/page.php?page=15 JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA PO Box 92 Palm Beach Qld 4221 Australia - Original Message - From: Vesna B [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere on ebay about being able to make a complaint about unreasonable shipping charges. If I can find that information again, I'll post a link, but perhaps someone else on the list has more details... Cheers, Vesna From: Walter Reuben [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Walter Reuben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] What to do? Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 22:40:09 -0700 I bought 11 TV scripts from an ebay seller today, named bravo_george He listed the shipping charge as $7 for script, but he is now refusing to combine shipping and insisting that I pay him $91 for shipping them in one parcel. and what makes this more infuriating---he is about three miles from me but is refusing to let me pick them up in person, Do ebay rules about screwing people on shipping charges apply in this case? And, if they do, how do I ask that they be enforced? No, I did not ask him in advance because I could not have conceived of something so idiotic. Walter Reuben Walter Reuben, Inc. 500 North Harper Avenue Los Angeles CA 90048 USA Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (323) 651 3313 www.walterfilm.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The MoPo Playground
Jeannie, Taking your points one at a time: 1. In order to have a private argument, both parties must mutually agree to an off-list communication. I have not done so and do not give permission to anyone to use my email address as a means to engage in private email warfare. The use of my email address to send me an uninvited email is a one-sided act and does not constitute a private argument, which requires the voluntarily participation of two or more people to mutually agree to do off-list. Wrong. One person engages another without their permission all the time in our society. You have a choice to respond... but that choice does NOT include the option of violating a clear label of privacy and going public with a private mesasge. It is the norm for one party to initiate an engagment, whether it is a postive, neutral or negative engagement. This is almost always true when the engagement is negative -- very rarely does someone say Hello. I'd like permission to engage in an argument with you. Will you agree to engage in an argument with me so that I may continue? Don't be silly. You know the world doesn't work that way -- and it doesn't work that way on any other list or forum you care to name. If one makes their email address available to other people, by participating in a list like this, they are taking their chances that one or more of those people will send them a private message without their permission. I get several a day from various MOPO members.! So do a lot of other people. It's a common occurrence. You deal with them P...R...I...V...A...T...E...L...Y People who think participating in a forum with other people doesn't mean they are exposing themselves to whatever may come along are fooling themselves. That's why there is a function in your email program to BLOCK A SENDER so that if you don't want to receive mail from a particular person you don't have to. Use it. That's why you have a DELETE key. Use it. In addition to those option, it would would have been perfectly acceptable for you to say something in public like: Hey, Claude, I got your private email flaming me the other day, and I don't appreciate it. Please don't send me anything like this again. THAT would have been acceptable. But forwarding the text of a clearly-labeled private email (or a quotation from it) is not. And yes, Claude may well have also breached email etiquette by flaming you, but he did so privately and you could have done what everyone else in a similar situation has done before you: responded, blocked him or ignored him privately -- which is PRECISELY what you should have done. 2. I have no intention of dragging any other member of MoPo into any debate or argument. Various members of MoPo do a good job of that on their own. However, I have no intention of letting any member of MoPo drag me into a personal fight. Then you should have just ignored Claude's message, blocked his email, simply ignored him or fired back privately to him if you wanted to. Instead, you DID drag all of us into it and violated accepted email protocol on this list -- and any other list I know of -- by TWICE forwarding a private email to the list. To say now you had no intention of dragging any other member of MOPO into any debate or argument simply doesn't hold water. Not only did you intend it, you have kept this debate going... even going so far as to tell Scott that you'll do it again, even after he has clearly stated as the List Owner that he considers posting private emails to the list something he does not want to see done. Proclaim your innocence to someone gullible, I'm not buying it. You knew exactly what you were doing when you forwarded those private messages to the list. 3. Any issue or argument arising from a discussion on MoPo needs to stay on MoPo rather than taken to the private email arena. It is, in fact, the reverse of what you have stated and is actually an invasion of private domain to take a public argument off the MoPo list and turn it into private email flames. Nonsense. You don't get to set the rules on MOPO, only Scott has that right. And on this list historically people take issues that arise on MOPO into private conversation every day -- and have done so for over 11 years now. Including heated arguments. Especially heated arugments. Maybe it's different on other lists you belong to, but it's commonplace here and on all the other lists I belong to. 4. In deflecting these email flames back to the MoPo list, I am forcing the sender to stay within the confines of the public arena to propagate his arguments, as it is ON MoPo and NOT in private that the argument began. I am not going to permit a public debate to be taken into the private arena with me and see the attempt to do so with such emails as over-stepping the boundaries of public participation on MoPo. You didn't have to permit anything. You could have
Re: [MOPO] The MoPo Playground and an explanation
A welldocumented effort to set the record straight and your are quite right -- we do have a long-standing"preferred option"on MOPO for people who want to bash at each other to "take it outside" and continue in private a thread which started in public. It is not always observed, but it is certainly a well-established part of "normal" activity on this list and Jeannie's claim that you somehow fraudulently usurped her private email address from this list and illegally used it to send herunlawful emails is simply bogus. Personally, Iwas surprised at the vehemence ofyourmessages to her, butyou were provokedand she did fire first -- and so if you chose to escalate youdid havethat right -- and at least you did use the "preferred option" of this group and madeyour angry commentsprivately instead of inflicting them on the entire membership. All through the ensuing discussion Jeannie has been acting as if she did nothing to provoke your messages... that she was just sitting around like Little Miss Muffet on her tuffet, minding her own business and innocent asa lamband then suddenly mean old Claude just jumped out of the bushes and started sending her nasty emails for no reason at all, oh my... Unfortunately several people seem to have fallen for heract and rushed to protect the damsel in distress by proclaiming her act of posting your private emails in public as some kind of brave and heroic effort to "out" the deadly MOPO stalker... ...yeah, right... all of which may have made for some juicy melodramaon a drowsy summer's week on MOPO, I suppose... but was hardly worth all the verbiage and bad feelings it has generated. It is worth noting that this series of unfortunate events started off as a completely valid ON-TOPIC thread about movie posters which rapidly drifted off-topic because some people felt the need to throw in unnecessary personal cracks along with their otherwise valid commentary on the topic. Rudenessbegets rudeness,folks. I think Claude was simply demonstrating that escalationcan happen -- and if you want to start that particular mud ball rollingdown the hillside, then you really can'tcomplain if you cause an avalanche. This group used to be pretty civil in the way we talked to each other, even when we strongly disagreed. I know it's been a long,hot summer... but how about we all get back to where we once belonged? -- JR - Original Message - From: Claude Litton To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 14:56 Subject: Re: [MOPO] The MoPo Playground and an explanation Phil Since you find my actions strange and disturbing I will explain it to you and the group. The group has totally lost sight of what triggered this whole thread and Jeannie would not have received the private emails had she not insulted me publically on MoPo. I do not desire to engage in nasty emails on MoPo and when someone insults me I prefer to reply privately. No matter how eloquent or convincing a person sounds the bottom line is that my response was a result of insults being fired at me on Mopo and I remained silent publically because the rules are that there shall be no personal attacks. There was a discussion going on about Rixposterz listings on ebay which deliberately omitted the fact that they were not USA posters. JR and I had made comments about thesehis listings andPhil chose to comment. However,he also chose to make a derogatory comment about me.Phil hadstated his opinionabout these types of listings and there was no need for the personal attack which belittled and insultedme. I chosea returncomment without going overboard, since Scott Burns has a rule against personal attacks. Jeannie then chose to send an email to the group with further negative sarcastic comments directed at me. This is not the first time she has tried to get me into a nasty debate.At no time in any previous emails, later emails or that particular emaildidshe make acomment about the discussion concerning poster listings. All she did was slam me. A number of years ago there were many personal attacks on MoPo and Scott Burns enacted strict rules concerning personal attacks. I have been a member of MoPo forclose to 10years, and enjoy it because it is a diversion from my business life. I am not about to engage in an open conflict with any members in violation of MoPo rules. On the other hand, when I am insulted and personally attacked, I see no problem in sending a Private Email to that person, explaining my feelings in the words I choose necessary to put my point across. Phil made a derogatory statement about me which began this situation. He is correct in statingI know nothing about him. I rebutted what he said with public words of my own and considered it publicly over. Phil did not make any further public comments which was the right thing to do. I do not mind debates, as this is what I have been trained to do, and enjoy them.
[MOPO] Dead or Alive
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Re: [MOPO] What to do?
,,but no matter whether you agree to pay or not, SELLER CAN STILL LEAVE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK.. EBAY wars are never pleasant remember, unscrupulous non-paying bidders sellers refusal to sell, can always retaliate with feedback. michael Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] GREAT PRESS KITS FOR SALE inc HARRY POTTER
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Re: [MOPO] Butch Cassidy poster question
I'm sure Bruce doesn't need me to help promote but I think he just forgot this part.If I may be so bold...Bruce has also allowed his databases to be included on personal websites. Which I have done on mine...http://www.bigtownfilmposters.us/id251.htmIf you are interested in linking directly to his Current Auctions, Image Archive, or Sales Results database on your site, you will want to e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or Phillip, or Bruce). Note that such links can improve your standing in all of the search engines, including Google.Can't thank him, and his crew, enough. Thanks fellas!pj Bruce Hershenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When wondering about whether posters exist, it ALWAYS pays to check our free Sales Results Database FIRST! Obviously, many collectors do so regularly, since over 900,000 pages have been viewed there in just over a year!Doing so in this case would yield the fact that we HAVE sold an original 1969 insert, as well as an R73 insert.The results were as follows:BUTCH CASSIDY THE SUNDANCE KID 1969 insert - UF lesser $162.50 04/26/2005BUTCH CASSIDY THE SUNDANCE KID 1969 insert - R73 G-VG $38.00 06/25/2002Therefore, it IS 100% this poster exists, since unlike any price guides or other price databases, OUR database only contains CONFIRMED results, so there is NO chance this is a "guessed at" price or result.It would next make sense to check the 59,000 images in our Poster Image Archive (over 3 MILLION pages have been viewed there in just over a year!), to see if the image of the 1969 insert is among the 59,000 images there. Alas, it is among the over 50,000 images of items we have sold that are not yet uploaded, but are waiting to be uploaded.I will try to dig out this particular image from our archives and post it on Monday.The above two databases are, for the time being, completely free and available to everyone, and it always makes sense to turn to them early with questions of "does this exist?", "what has it sold for?", and "what does it look like?"BruceVisit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] What to do?
Walter, I sympathize with you. I had a similar experience with seller legionoutpost. I bought a single, linen backed OS from him at $200 and he charged me $41 shipping from NY to Florida. I offered every alternative I could think of, including picking up the poster. He wouldnt accept any alternatives and said he wishes that Id asked his shipping charges before I bought. I guess the only way to really avoid this is to ask every possible question to every possible sellera grueling process. Avoid legionoutpost as a seller. DBT From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walter Reuben Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 1:40 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] What to do? I bought 11 TV scripts from an ebay seller today, named bravo_george He listed the shipping charge as $7 for script, but he is now refusing to combine shipping and insisting that I pay him $91 for shipping them in one parcel. and what makes this more infuriating---he is about three miles from me but is refusing to let me pick them up in person, Do ebay rules about screwing people on shipping charges apply in this case? And, if they do, how do I ask that they be enforced? No, I did not ask him in advance because I could not have conceived of something so idiotic. Walter Reuben Walter Reuben, Inc. 500 North Harper Avenue Los Angeles CA 90048 USA Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (323) 651 3313 www.walterfilm.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] What to do?
Walter, I don't if I missed it but what is the seller ID for the gouger so we can all be wary of him. Thanks Rick Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] What to do?
Walter, I guess the sellers got you by the nuts! I had a similar experience a couple weeks ago from an ebay store in California. I bought two water damaged standees for a dollar and they tried to get $45. more for shipping. I sent them a check for one dollar and told them to do what ever with the standees. I kept to my end of the transaction. I feel these type of sellers are dishonest and help give ebay a bad name! All auctions should have a shipping price, even if over inflated. At least in the end we know what is to be paid. Doug - Original Message - From: Walter Reuben To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 1:40 AM Subject: [MOPO] What to do? I bought 11 TV scripts from an ebay seller today, named bravo_george He listed the shipping charge as $7 for script, but he is now refusing to combine shipping and insisting that I pay him $91 for shipping them in one parcel. and what makes this more infuriating---he is about three miles from me but is refusing to let me pick them up in person, Do ebay rules about screwing people on shipping charges apply in this case? And, if they do, how do I ask that they be enforced? No, I did not ask him in advance because I could not have conceived of something so idiotic. Walter Reuben Walter Reuben, Inc. 500 North Harper Avenue Los Angeles CA 90048 USA Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (323) 651 3313 www.walterfilm.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Collectibles Insurance Agency
Hello Stephanie, I use this insurance agency since seven years. I had one loss almost two years ago and they paid my loss immediately. I can recommend them highly. Philipp Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The MoPo Playground and an explanation
Title: Re: [MOPO] The MoPo Playground and an explanation Jeannie has been inflicting her over-bearing, self-righteous attitude on NSFGE for several months now. I guess that wasn't enough ego boosting for her, so she's decided to take on MoPo as well. And the reason that she's never said anything useful about movie posters here (or on NSFGE, for that matter) is because she really knows nothing about them. All she collects is Star Wars. I imagine that she'll now toss back some long-winded diatribe against all of us who dare to question her righteousness, but I for one won't respond, either publicly or privately. Oh, and for those who didn't have time to read koose's novel, or who had an epileptic seizure from all the flashing colored lights, what he said, in essence, was: Jeannie, you're erudite, you make some good points, but if you don't play by the MoPo rules, Scott has every right to kick you off the mailing list. Sounds good to me. Randy --- At 6:34 AM -0400 8/27/06, JR wrote: A welldocumented effort to set the record straight and your are quite right -- we do have a long-standingpreferred optionon MOPO for people who want to bash at each other to take it outside and continue in private a thread which started in public. It is not always observed, but it is certainly a well-established part of normal activity on this list and Jeannie's claim that you somehow fraudulently usurped her private email address from this list and illegally used it to send herunlawful emails is simply bogus. Personally, Iwas surprised at the vehemence ofyourmessages to her, butyou were provokedand she did fire first -- and so if you chose to escalate youdid havethat right -- and at least you did use the preferred option of this group and madeyour angry commentsprivately instead of inflicting them on the entire membership. All through the ensuing discussion Jeannie has been acting as if she did nothing to provoke your messages... that she was just sitting around like Little Miss Muffet on her tuffet, minding her own business and innocent asa lamband then suddenly mean old Claude just jumped out of the bushes and started sending her nasty emails for no reason at all, oh my... Unfortunately several people seem to have fallen for heract and rushed to protect the damsel in distress by proclaiming her act of posting your private emails in public as some kind of brave and heroic effort to out the deadly MOPO stalker... ...yeah, right... all of which may have made for some juicy melodramaon a drowsy summer's week on MOPO, I suppose... but was hardly worth all the verbiage and bad feelings it has generated. It is worth noting that this series of unfortunate events started off as a completely valid ON-TOPIC thread about movie posters which rapidly drifted off-topic because some people felt the need to throw in unnecessary personal cracks along with their otherwise valid commentary on the topic. Rudenessbegets rudeness,folks. I think Claude was simply demonstrating that escalationcan happen -- and if you want to start that particular mud ball rollingdown the hillside, then you really can'tcomplain if you cause an avalanche. This group used to be pretty civil in the way we talked to each other, even when we strongly disagreed. I know it's been a long,hot summer... but how about we all get back to where we once belonged? -- JR - Original Message - From: Claude Litton To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 14:56 Subject: Re: [MOPO] The MoPo Playground and an explanation Phil Since you find my actions strange and disturbing I will explain it to you and the group. The group has totally lost sight of what triggered this whole thread and Jeannie would not have received the private emails had she not insulted me publically on MoPo. I do not desire to engage in nasty emails on MoPo and when someone insults me I prefer to reply privately. No matter how eloquent or convincing a person sounds the bottom line is that my response was a result of insults being fired at me on Mopo and I remained silent publically because the rules are that there shall be no personal attacks. There was a discussion going on about Rixposterz listings on ebay which deliberately omitted the fact that they were not USA posters. JR and I had made comments about thesehis listings andPhil chose to comment. However,he also chose to make a derogatory comment about me.Phil hadstated his opinionabout these types of listings and there was no need for the personal attack which belittled and insultedme. I chosea returncomment without going overboard, since Scott Burns has a rule against personal attacks. Jeannie then chose to send an email to the group with further negative sarcastic comments directed at me. This is not the first time she has tried to get me into a nasty debate.At no time in any previous emails, later emails or that particular emaildidshe make acomment about the discussion
Re: [MOPO] What to do?
Title: Re: [MOPO] What to do? With lobby cards in particular, I often pick up multiple pieces from each seller. I've learned through similar bad experiences to ALWAYS ask about combined shipping before the auctions end, with any seller I haven't dealt with before, unless the question is very specifically addressed in their auctions. Never assume anything, as there are too many jerks around who are convinced that gouging on shipping is perfectly legitimate. And this includes those who feel that they're being fair when they say something like, Shipping for the first card is $8, add ONLY $1 for each additional card. Right. So if I get 20 lobby cards, the shipping is $27. Still a rip off. Randy From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walter Reuben Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 1:40 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] What to do? I bought 11 TV scripts from an ebay seller today, named bravo_george He listed the shipping charge as $7 for script, but he is now refusing to combine shipping and insisting that I pay him $91 for shipping them in one parcel. and what makes this more infuriating---he is about three miles from me but is refusing to let me pick them up in person, Do ebay rules about screwing people on shipping charges apply in this case? And, if they do, how do I ask that they be enforced? No, I did not ask him in advance because I could not have conceived of something so idiotic. Walter Reuben Walter Reuben, Inc. 500 North Harper Avenue Los Angeles CA 90048 USA Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (323) 651 3313 www.walterfilm.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Collectibles Insurance Agency
what kind of a loss valuable item? it might be an interesting thread to see how adjusters address paper that was once valued at less than a buck nichael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Collectibles Insurance Agency Hello Stephanie, I use this insurance agency since seven years. I had one loss almost two years ago and they paid my loss immediately. I can recommend them highly. Philipp Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?
Walter, You have the advantage on him. Think about it. You've won 13 individual items from him, right? You tell him he either combines shipping for them and gives you a reasonable shipping quote or: 1) You'll report him to eBay for excessive shipping charges (something they are taking seriously right now), but MOST IMPORTANT: 2) You will leave 13 NEGATIVEFEEDBACKS for him. 13 negative feedbacks will send *any* seller's rating into the toilet, even if he has hundreds of positives. If he retaliates and it hurts your feedback to much, just open a new account on eBay and start over -- that's not a big deal for a buyer to do. For a seller it's a bigger hit. You are in the driver's seat here. Just let this bozo know that. --JR - Original Message - From: Walter Reuben To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 13:04 Subject: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? seller ID is Bravo_George, and right now he is not getting very many "bravo's" out of me Walter - Original Message - From: Richard Auras To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, I don't if I missed it but what is the seller ID for the gouger so we can all be wary of him. Thanks Rick Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] What to do?
Title: Re: [MOPO] What to do? Randy, Sorry, but the approach of saying"Shipping for the first card is $8, add ONLY $1 for each additional card." is exactly how I ran my pulp auctions on eBay and it is a perfectly good approach, not a rip-off. Yes, if you buy 20 cards $27 might seem like a lot of shipping cost to you -- but you're not looking at if from the seller's viewpoint. He has to put each item in a plastic sleeve. That costs money. He has make sure he has all of them gathered into the right package... don't want to leave one out... package them...that takes more time than a single card would...and the weight of the package will cost significantly more to ship.Maybe not so much more for 20 lobby cards, but if it were 20 pulp magazines the weight of the package would kick it up well over$20 for Priority Mail shipping. Even 20 lobby cards-- with sleeves and protective cardboard is going tobe about2 lbs... maybe a little more, which would kick the Priority Mail shipping up at least to $10 bucks. The extra $1.00 per additional item is a shipping AND handling charge. It's a very reasonable approach to take to the issue of combined shipping. Besides, your example is extreme. I you had only won 3 items from him, would you complain that he charged you $10.00 to ship -- just $2.00 more than 1 card would have cost? Unlikely you would find that excessive, but if you would, then I'm glad you didn't win any of my auctions. I'm as much against genuine shipping gouging as anyone else and have suffered it myself, but adding a lousy buck for each additional item is not anything remotely like gouging. -- JR - Original Message - From: Randall Petersen To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 14:01 Subject: Re: [MOPO] What to do? With lobby cards in particular, I often pick up multiple pieces from each seller. I've learned through similar bad experiences to ALWAYS ask about combined shipping before the auctions end, with any seller I haven't dealt with before, unless the question is very specifically addressed in their auctions. Never assume anything, as there are too many jerks around who are convinced that gouging on shipping is perfectly legitimate. And this includes those who feel that they're being fair when they say something like, "Shipping for the first card is $8, add ONLY $1 for each additional card." Right. So if I get 20 lobby cards, the shipping is $27. Still a rip off. Randy From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walter ReubenSent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 1:40 AMTo: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUSubject: [MOPO] What to do? I bought 11 TV scripts from an ebay seller today, named bravo_george He listed the shipping charge as $7 for script, but he is now refusing to combine shipping and insisting that I pay him $91 for shipping them in one parcel. and what makes this more infuriating---he is about three miles from me but is refusing to let me pick them up in person, Do ebay rules about screwing people on shipping charges apply in this case? And, if they do, how do I ask that they be enforced? No, I did not ask him in advance because I could not have conceived of something so idiotic. Walter Reuben Walter Reuben, Inc. 500 North Harper Avenue Los Angeles CA 90048 USA Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (323) 651 3313 www.walterfilm.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?
I have sent an email to ebay complaining about overcharging for shipping. In fact, the morons that run ebay seem to only have a policy in place on overcharging for one item. So I doubt that they will regard the $90+ that this scam artist is charging to ship multiple pieces as too much, but let us see. Just to put it in context---I won on ebay yesterday 12 scripts from another L.A. seller, who has already invoiced me $8.50 to ship me all of them. If ebay does not persuade the seller to change his shipping fee, then I will pay him in full, hopefully he will leave me positive feedback, and, then yes you can believe that I will leave him the feedback that he deserves. However, if he does not leave any feedback for me, I may just leave him the 11 negatives that he has earned ANYWAY. I realize that my 11 bad feedbacks will only translate into one minus in the arithmetic, but one does what one can. My feedback is now 1804, and his is 6. And, if he does leave retaliatory feedback, so what? I already have two negatives, both long ago and retaliatory. Bruce Hershenson even has a few, and he so totally bends over backward in all his shipping and return policies. If you do enough business on ebay, it will happen sooner or later. Walter Reuben - Original Message - From: JR To: Walter Reuben Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, Alternatively, if you really want the items, go ahead and pay his outrageous shipping charge and let him leave positive feedback for you. Then, you leave 13 NEGATIVE feedbacks on him, citing his shipping scam as the reason. He'll probably fall for it and you'll be able to hit him hard and escape any retaliatory feedback on your account. It might be worth the extra $75 bucks just to have the satisfaction of doing that to him. -- JR - Original Message - From: JR To: Walter Reuben ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 14:39 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, You have the advantage on him. Think about it. You've won 13 individual items from him, right? You tell him he either combines shipping for them and gives you a reasonable shipping quote or: 1) You'll report him to eBay for excessive shipping charges (something they are taking seriously right now), but MOST IMPORTANT: 2) You will leave 13 NEGATIVEFEEDBACKS for him. 13 negative feedbacks will send *any* seller's rating into the toilet, even if he has hundreds of positives. If he retaliates and it hurts your feedback to much, just open a new account on eBay and start over -- that's not a big deal for a buyer to do. For a seller it's a bigger hit. You are in the driver's seat here. Just let this bozo know that. --JR - Original Message - From: Walter Reuben To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 13:04 Subject: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? seller ID is Bravo_George, and right now he is not getting very many "bravo's" out of me Walter - Original Message - From: Richard Auras To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, I don't if I missed it but what is the seller ID for the gouger so we can all be wary of him. Thanks Rick Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?
Walter, undoubtedly you are aware that the ebayprocess of dropping items after 90 days after the listing endsis not entirely accurate insofar as it is always 90 days; if you wait until the 90th day for each item then leave negatives,there might betime left for the seller to get back and certainly he can reply in your negatives to him. I tried waiting one time to give a deserved negative for bad packing on the 90th day to avoid the relatiatory I knew would come; the listing lasted past 90 days and I got the retaliatory which was factually nonresponsive. Also, the calculation of feedback percentage via subtracting negatives (or adding positives) does not work by numbers of negatives (or positives), but is based on a per member basis, so as to remove the multiplying effect of numerous negatives (or positives) and in addition any time you deal with the same person again, that person's feedback is not counted into your percentage though it is part of the running totals. So he'd get 13 negatives but from one member that would be 1 negative in 7 feedbacks for 85.7%. So as I have stated before you must be ready toaccept unfair retaliation in order to make the point that someone is a bad actor. Most worthy sellers and buyers can see them for what they are, if they look. Craig, Vancouver - Original Message - From: Walter Reuben To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? I have sent an email to ebay complaining about overcharging for shipping. In fact, the morons that run ebay seem to only have a policy in place on overcharging for one item. So I doubt that they will regard the $90+ that this scam artist is charging to ship multiple pieces as too much, but let us see. Just to put it in context---I won on ebay yesterday 12 scripts from another L.A. seller, who has already invoiced me $8.50 to ship me all of them. If ebay does not persuade the seller to change his shipping fee, then I will pay him in full, hopefully he will leave me positive feedback, and, then yes you can believe that I will leave him the feedback that he deserves. However, if he does not leave any feedback for me, I may just leave him the 11 negatives that he has earned ANYWAY. I realize that my 11 bad feedbacks will only translate into one minus in the arithmetic, but one does what one can. My feedback is now 1804, and his is 6. And, if he does leave retaliatory feedback, so what? I already have two negatives, both long ago and retaliatory. Bruce Hershenson even has a few, and he so totally bends over backward in all his shipping and return policies. If you do enough business on ebay, it will happen sooner or later. Walter Reuben - Original Message - From: JR To: Walter Reuben Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, Alternatively, if you really want the items, go ahead and pay his outrageous shipping charge and let him leave positive feedback for you. Then, you leave 13 NEGATIVE feedbacks on him, citing his shipping scam as the reason. He'll probably fall for it and you'll be able to hit him hard and escape any retaliatory feedback on your account. It might be worth the extra $75 bucks just to have the satisfaction of doing that to him. -- JR - Original Message - From: JR To: Walter Reuben ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 14:39 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, You have the advantage on him. Think about it. You've won 13 individual items from him, right? You tell him he either combines shipping for them and gives you a reasonable shipping quote or: 1) You'll report him to eBay for excessive shipping charges (something they are taking seriously right now), but MOST IMPORTANT: 2) You will leave 13 NEGATIVEFEEDBACKS for him. 13 negative feedbacks will send *any* seller's rating into the toilet, even if he has hundreds of positives. If he retaliates and it hurts your feedback to much, just open a new account on eBay and start over -- that's not a big deal for a buyer to do. For a seller it's a bigger hit. You are in the driver's seat here. Just let this bozo know that. --JR - Original Message - From: Walter Reuben To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 13:04 Subject: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? seller ID is Bravo_George, and right now he is not getting very many "bravo's" out of me Walter - Original Message - From: Richard Auras To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27,
Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?
If you really analyze what walter is saying, he is scared because ebay will not protect him against a scammer. walter's feedback is important, because it is high and he is honorable. the scammer doesnt care. scammers come and go. ebay's feedback policy often protects scammers. i got my first bad feedback 2 weeks ago (dialmbbmbb). an enemy of mine opened an acct for the sole purpose of leaving bad feedback.he bid on my lowest priced item, a ripped poster, paid, and left bad feedback. he now has a neg one. he never bid before, will never bid on that acct, again. you should have read the canned crap ebay responded in several emails. i posted about this 2 weeks ago, and said, for $10,00, i can destroy anyone's feedback. warning to walter: fo not threaten to leave bad feedback in advance. that is grounds for ebay to remove based upon feedback extortion. read their stupid rules!!! michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? I have sent an email to ebay complaining about overcharging for shipping. In fact, the morons that run ebay seem to only have a policy in place on overcharging for one item. So I doubt that they will regard the $90+ that this scam artist is charging to ship multiple pieces as too much, but let us see. Just to put it in context---I won on ebay yesterday 12 scripts from another L.A. seller, who has already invoiced me $8.50 to ship me all of them. If ebay does not persuade the seller to change his shipping fee, then I will pay him in full, hopefully he will leave me positive feedback, and, then yes you can believe that I will leave him the feedback that he deserves. However, if he does not leave any feedback for me, I may just leave him the 11 negatives that he has earned ANYWAY. I realize that my 11 bad feedbacks will only translate into one minus in the arithmetic, but one does what one can. My feedback is now 1804, and his is 6. And, if he does leave retaliatory feedback, so what? I already have two negatives, both long ago and retaliatory. Bruce Hershenson even has a few, and he so totally bends over backward in all his shipping and return policies. If you do enough business on ebay, it will happen sooner or later. Walter Reuben - Original Message - From: JR To: Walter Reuben Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, Alternatively, if you really want the items, go ahead and pay his outrageous shipping charge and let him leave positive feedback for you. Then, you leave 13 NEGATIVE feedbacks on him, citing his shipping scam as the reason. He'll probably fall for it and you'll be able to hit him hard and escape any retaliatory feedback on your account. It might be worth the extra $75 bucks just to have the satisfaction of doing that to him. -- JR - Original Message - From: JR To: Walter Reuben ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 14:39 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, You have the advantage on him. Think about it. You've won 13 individual items from him, right? You tell him he either combines shipping for them and gives you a reasonable shipping quote or: 1) You'll report him to eBay for excessive shipping charges (something they are taking seriously right now), but MOST IMPORTANT: 2) You will leave 13 NEGATIVEFEEDBACKS for him. 13 negative feedbacks will send *any* seller's rating into the toilet, even if he has hundreds of positives. If he retaliates and it hurts your feedback to much, just open a new account on eBay and start over -- that's not a big deal for a buyer to do. For a seller it's a bigger hit. You are in the driver's seat here. Just let this bozo know that. --JR - Original Message - From: Walter Reuben To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 13:04 Subject: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? seller ID is Bravo_George, and right now he is not getting very many "bravo's" out of me Walter - Original Message - From: Richard Auras To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, I don't if I missed it but what is the seller ID for the gouger so we can all be wary of him. Thanks Rick Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the
[MOPO] CLARIFICATION about the MoPo Playground
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 at 10:32:29 -0700, Randall Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Oh, and for those who didn't have time to read koose's novel, or who had an epileptic seizure from all the flashing colored lights, what he said, in essence, was:Jeannie, you're erudite, you make some good points, but if you don't play by the MoPo rules, Scott has every right to kick you off the mailing list.Sounds good to me. I have received two e-mails reacting to my novel-length post with the carnival lights (sorry) -- and I'd like to say: 1)Randy Petersen's comments above -- have captured in less than 30 words -- what took me 3,000 to accomplish.(Thank you, Randy, for reading my novel IN TOTAL).This is EXACTLY how I feel about Jeannie's intransigient position and what Scott Burns should do if she persists.If she doesn't like Scott's rules, no matter her rationale, she shouldn't have joined -- AND, if she breaks SCOTT's rules again -- I will support her suspension.My stated "admiration" for Jeannie was mostly a response to her writing style (vs. its CONTENT).I always notice and like people who are good with the pen.But however convincing, you must sift through to find WHAT such writers advocate and WHY. 2)I also read Claude's note yesterday.Amazingly, I was asleep at the wheel.I did NOT REALIZE Jeannie's position, that is, the part I find objectionable (her justification to take private notes public) involved Claude!Had I known, I would've AMENDED my novel.I don't think I would've changed what I wrote, but I would've acknowledged that I KNOW Claude. 3)I've written about Claude in years past and I will re-state my PERSONAL view of him again.I don't always like the WAY he disagrees (even though I agree w/most everything he writes).I think the thing Jeannie (and sometimes others, especially new members) don't like -- is his way Claude can pound back in an e-mail.It can feel terse, brutal and personal, e.g., "if you don't agree, I'll hit you into tomorrow."This is his "public e-mail" persona.And while I don't condone this style, public or private -- Claude's true character, in my view, is made of granite. --- ** I have spoken to Claude -- we exchanged numbers via PRIVATE e-mail -- (it may have started over a disagreement on MoPo years ago, what else?) -- and you WILL NOT BELIEVE how different he is, one-on-one vs. in an e-mail.He is regal, gentlemanly, accomodating -- in a word, wonderful.I've also never forgotten that spectacular 2002 profile about him in Hearst's-Dow Jones' Smart Money Magazine.That's the Claude I know, not the sometimes scary, fearless and "take no prisoners" Claude others know.This is because when he surfaces at MoPo, it's usually to challenge or support someone else's view rather than praise. ** Yet this reputation is not a true reflection of how he really is.When you get to know Claude, you can disagree and discover a man with a lot of charm and charisma.In fairness, it's because we exchanged phone numbers years ago -- again, VIA PRIVATE E-MAIL -- we called each other -- and I was shocked at how he came across, almost wise and paternalistic, protective of your views, while gently explaining why he disagrees. Right out of an RKO movie. ** The suggestion, however oblique or even hidden in subtext -- that Claude Litton might have a "stalker's" mentality against people who challenge him -- is so ridiculous that it's laughable.In sum, I am one of his biggest fans.We're at opposite ends of many things, esp. politically. And thinking back, I remember not liking him at first -- in the same way people don't like me at first (and still don't today).But I got to know him and not only do I consider Claude an ace -- I consider him a friend. -koose. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] FA Ending
Hello everyone: Tonight, the last of my auctions for this month are closing! Besure to stop by and have a look soon! http://www.lindersauctions.com/ebay Titles ending this evening around 9:45 PM Eastern: Hell on Frisco Bay Japanese Grand Prix Japanese Style C Star Wars Russian "Darth Puma" Hellraiser Japanese Style A Marilyn Monroe Special RetrospectiveJapanese Blow Up Italian Fotobusta #8 Thanks, Erich == Erich Linder [EMAIL PROTECTED] (484) 318-1288 == Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] FA: CLOSING!VintageHorror/Schlock,TheJerk,SERIALS,50'sNoir,Disney,LordJim,Toho!!
Hi, I have at least 30 Auctions closing WITHIN 4 TO 6 HOURS-lots of FIRST TIME LISTED, hard to find titles plus much more--SERIALS,SCI-FI/HORROR, HORROR/SCHLOCK, GREAT DISNEY, PRINCE---SIGN O' THE TIMES Rock Roll US OS NM, Hard to Find Vintage 50's FILM NOIR, LOBBY SETS---If you have a minute, please take a look! Here's the link to ALL Auctions plus partial list just below! Thanks again to Everyone! Rick http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZrixposterz THE JERK(Steve Martin) Orig STYLE B US One Sheet BEST STYLE! THE SEA WOLF (Edw G, Robinson/John Garfield,1941) Orig US Lobby Card! INDISCRETION OF AN AMERICAN WIFE (Clift, Jones,1954) Orig US LCSet! AFFAIR WITH A STRANGER (Classic 50's FILM NOIR,1953) Orig US One Sheet! LORD JIM (Peter O'Toole,1965) Orig US One Sheet GREAT ART!! 3 CABALLEROS (Walt Disney) US 1/2 Sheet GREAT ART! NM!! THE MONSTER CLUB (Vincent Price,Carradine,1981) Orig Poster NM MONSTERS! BATTLE IN OUTER SPACE (Toho, Sci-Fi Space,1960) BEST Orig US LC! REDUCED! CABARET (Minnelli, Grey,1971) 3 Orig US Lobby Cards! REDUCED!! SIGN O' THE TIMES (Prince, Music,1987) Orig US One Sheet! NM BEST PRICE PRTRAIT BLAZING THE OVERLAND TRAIL (1956 Western Serial) Orig US TC 3 LC's!! TALL STORY (Jane Fonda, Tony Perkins, Basketball,1968) Orig US LCSet MINT! BILLY THE KID VS. DRACULA (Horror/Sclock, 1965) Orig Poster LOOK KIND LADY(Classic 50's FILM NOIR, Lansbury) Orig US Insert REDUCED! TROPICAL HEAT WAVE (Estelita,1952) Orig US 1/2 Sheet NM!!! REDUCED!!! CRAZY JOE (Peter Boyle, MAFIA,1974) Orig US One Sheet!! BLOODY MESS!!! These are LESS THAN HALF of the Auctions I have closingWITHIN 4 TO 6 HOURS-lotsof other BARGAINS AT 1/3rd THEIR VALUE OR LESS! PLEASE TAKE A LOOK! Thanks to all, Rick http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZrixposterz Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?
2) You will leave 13 NEGATIVE FEEDBACKS for him. 13 negative feedbacks will send *any* seller's rating into the toilet, even if he has hundreds of positives. I believe that is incorrect. It's my understanding that 13 negatives from the same buyer will only count as ONE hit on the seller's feedback score. And I know this to be true with positive feedback. Basically, once you've left a particular seller one positive and one negative feedback, all your future feedbacks to that seller are meaningless in terms of affecting their percentage score. Makes it much harder to hurt someone badly. Or conversely, much harder for a seller to artificially build up positive feedback artificially by bidding on thousands of their own items with another ebay ID. Sorry, but the approach of saying Shipping for the first card is $8, add ONLY $1 for each additional card. is exactly how I ran my pulp auctions on eBay and it is a perfectly good approach, not a rip-off. I was sure this would get a rise out of someone. Sorry back at you, but I still consider it to be just another way sellers gouge buyers on shipping. No matter how you try and justify it, the incremental cost of shipping each additional card will never be a dollar, or anything close to it. Therefore, the seller is making an (admittedly small) amount of additional profit from shipping for each additional item the buyer buys, which fits my definition of gouging. And in the process, punishing his or her most enthusiastic customers. Obviously the situation is totally different for items that weigh more than lobby cards do. The most reasonable way to charge shipping, imo, is to create ranges based on the number of items purchased, that reflect REAL differences in the cost of postage and time taken to put an order together. For example, $8 for 1-10 cards, $12 for 10-20 cards, and so on. As far as my example being an extreme one, that is simply not the case, particularly with lobby cards. If a seller is offering one card that I'm interested in, he's probably offering dozens more that I'm also interested in. And I'm hardly the only person who buys this way. As an example, one need only check the recent sci-fi lobby card auctions from 'brianf1242' to see that only a handful of people have purchased the majority of his several hundred card collection. Now, having said all that, I certainly don't consider the 'each additional card for a buck' approach to be the worst type of shipping gouging around. And I've definitely bought many many pieces from sellers who use this approach, although I am less inclined to bid high on multiple pieces under these circumstances. At the other end of the spectrum, of course, are sellers like da Bruce. Last week, I won 21 of his primo cards, for a total cost of over $2500. My shipping charge? Ten bucks. I'm not suggesting that everyone do this, but from a buyer's perspective, it's great. Randy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?
If ebay does not persuade the seller to change his shipping fee, then I will pay him in full, hopefully he will leave me positive feedback, and, then yes you can believe that I will leave him the feedback that he deserves. Not a chance of that happening, Walter. Sellers like this NEVER leave buyers positive feedback before they get positive feedback themselves. They know what they're doing is wrong and that it pisses off customers, even if they won't admit it. And especially since you've already exchanged 'words' with this joker. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] FA eBay auctions - Disney lobby cards, arthouse one sheets
Hi All, Twenty four hours left on a selection of Disney animation lobby cards, arthouse and indie one sheets. As always all shipping costs stated on the item pages and we'll combine shiping from our eBay auctions, eBay store and from our website sales at www.cinemarts.com Thanks for looking, Phil Mila Edwards eBay ID cinemarts if this link to auctions doesn't work. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQampq3bsspagenameZhQ3ahQ3aadvsearchQ3aUSQQfclZ3QQfromZR7QQfrppZ200QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsascsZ1QQsassZcinemartsQQsofindtypeZ15 On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:51:27 -0400, Erich Linder wrote Hello everyone: Tonight, the last of my auctions for this month are closing! Be sure to stop by and have a look soon! http://www.lindersauctions.com/ebay Titles ending this evening around 9:45 PM Eastern: Hell on Frisco Bay Japanese Grand Prix Japanese Style C Star Wars Russian Darth Puma Hellraiser Japanese Style A Marilyn Monroe Special Retrospective Japanese Blow Up Italian Fotobusta #8 Thanks, Erich == Erich Linder [EMAIL PROTECTED] (484) 318-1288 == Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- Service provided by www.nelsonbay.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?
holy mackerel - I agree with Randall !! I think that Randall is reasonably correct on this. There has to be something about the planets being in alignment. but listen.. when I ship. I charge a single fee - $8 in the USA etc. I myself think is the right thing to do because one thing for sure, when I sell multiple items to one seller - it may cost me a little more to ship the package, however the benefit of being able to ship many items to one buyer negates the need for me to send multiple buyers a single item and thusly eliminates the work of making multiple packages. the math is simple to me... I save time and so the buyer saves money. Of course this may be different if I am selling hardcover books the like because the weight issue really moves up there. But I rarely sell a box of stuff that needs to be shipped weighing 20 pounds, or even just 10. it takes myself or my girlfriend roughly 5-10 minutes to make a package (depends on what kind of package needs to be made) However it takes only a few seconds or 1 minute to find an item that sold unless I have to look through multiple areas (believe it or not, my stuff is not in order. I do have to find it - but it is in a general area- this shelf or that shelf). So to pack 10 lobby cards to different buyers will take a couple hours probably. To pull 10 lobby cards for one buyer make one package takes 10-20 minutes total and I have saved very much of my VALUABLE TIME that could be used listing more auctions I might understand sometimes adding a nominal handling fee to each extra item, but why do it in light of saved time?? Rotman auctions used to charge $1 handling fee for each item and sometimes when I bought 30 items one week, the shipping /handling became $45, but I more than saved that on my bids anyway, so I just kept it in mind when bidding I can assure everyone of one thing however.. I absolutely will not allow anyone to do what that seller is doing to Walter Rueben and if anyone sees such or is victim of such on MoviePosterBid I want to know about it I will correct that problem so fast that the need for discussion will be eliminated. I also asked Walter to please let me know who it is so I can be looking out for him if he ever signs up thanks Rich=== At 03:13 PM 8/27/2006, Randall Petersen wrote: 2) You will leave 13 NEGATIVE FEEDBACKS for him. 13 negative feedbacks will send *any* seller's rating into the toilet, even if he has hundreds of positives. I believe that is incorrect. It's my understanding that 13 negatives from the same buyer will only count as ONE hit on the seller's feedback score. And I know this to be true with positive feedback. Basically, once you've left a particular seller one positive and one negative feedback, all your future feedbacks to that seller are meaningless in terms of affecting their percentage score. Makes it much harder to hurt someone badly. Or conversely, much harder for a seller to artificially build up positive feedback artificially by bidding on thousands of their own items with another ebay ID. Sorry, but the approach of saying Shipping for the first card is $8, add ONLY $1 for each additional card. is exactly how I ran my pulp auctions on eBay and it is a perfectly good approach, not a rip-off. I was sure this would get a rise out of someone. Sorry back at you, but I still consider it to be just another way sellers gouge buyers on shipping. No matter how you try and justify it, the incremental cost of shipping each additional card will never be a dollar, or anything close to it. Therefore, the seller is making an (admittedly small) amount of additional profit from shipping for each additional item the buyer buys, which fits my definition of gouging. And in the process, punishing his or her most enthusiastic customers. Obviously the situation is totally different for items that weigh more than lobby cards do. The most reasonable way to charge shipping, imo, is to create ranges based on the number of items purchased, that reflect REAL differences in the cost of postage and time taken to put an order together. For example, $8 for 1-10 cards, $12 for 10-20 cards, and so on. As far as my example being an extreme one, that is simply not the case, particularly with lobby cards. If a seller is offering one card that I'm interested in, he's probably offering dozens more that I'm also interested in. And I'm hardly the only person who buys this way. As an example, one need only check the recent sci-fi lobby card auctions from 'brianf1242' to see that only a handful of people have purchased the majority of his several hundred card collection. Now, having said all that, I certainly don't consider the 'each additional card for a buck' approach to be the worst type of shipping gouging around. And I've definitely bought many many pieces from sellers who use this approach, although I am less
[MOPO] Before there was Disney, there was Sir John Tenniel...
...and before Sir John, there was J.J.GRANDVILLE Author: GRANDVILLE, J.J. (1803-1847) Title: Les Metamorphoses du Jour Year Published: 1854 Place Printed: Paris Printed By: Gustave Hazard He created the illustrations for Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels (1838), Daniel Defoe's Robinson Crusoe (1840) and Chevalier's Don Quichotte de la manche (1848). Grandville's fantastic anthropomorphic figures combining human and animal characteristics have been considered among the sources for Sir John Tenniel's illustrations in Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland. Precursor of surrealism. (sic) (Indeed a rare privilege to be able to view all 70 original anthropomorphic hand coloured plates.) MISS ANDERSON You have enjoyed a very rare privilege, young man. Did you find what you were looking for? THOMPSON No. Tell me something, Miss Anderson. You're not Rosebud, are you? MISS ANDERSON What? THOMPSON I didn't think you were. Well, thanks for the use of the hall. He puts his hat on his head and starts out, lighting a cigarette as he goes. Miss Anderson, scandalized, watches him. http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2038/dsc6gl2.jpg http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/5504/dsc8ap6.jpg http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/106/dsc9er9.jpg http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9445/dsc00010xh4.jpg http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9607/dsc00011zn9.jpg http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/7704/dsc00012wh5.jpg http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/7403/dsc00013dg5.jpg http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9099/dsc00014vw8.jpg http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/4889/dsc00015op2.jpg http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/3512/dsc00016ku7.jpg http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/3654/dsc00017dq7.jpg http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4798/dsc00018dk4.jpg http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8338/dsc00019jv7.jpg http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/3893/dsc00020cj7.jpg http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1831/dsc00021qt3.jpg http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7079/dsc00022kg8.jpg http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9544/dsc00023hz5.jpg http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2333/dsc00024ey2.jpg http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1345/dsc00025bf7.jpg http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/3742/dsc00026zq7.jpg http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/871/dsc00027yu0.jpg http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8894/dsc00028sw8.jpg http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7258/dsc00029dg7.jpg http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4236/dsc00030tp0.jpg http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6892/dsc00031sq0.jpg http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5272/dsc00032ne1.jpg http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5343/dsc00033fh6.jpg http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/221/dsc00034lt1.jpg http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4417/dsc00035cb7.jpg http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7731/dsc00036ke7.jpg http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7936/dsc00037ge9.jpg http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/609/dsc00038ow1.jpg http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1375/dsc00039ys9.jpg http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/4148/dsc00040rv3.jpg http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5889/dsc00041ng6.jpg http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6435/dsc00042lo7.jpg http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/4999/dsc00043eb2.jpg http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8810/dsc00044mo4.jpg http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9311/dsc00045zm6.jpg http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6249/dsc00046vx0.jpg http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1886/dsc00047qx1.jpg http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6793/dsc00048cc6.jpg http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/6976/dsc00049fu1.jpg http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/8831/dsc00050cc6.jpg http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/3740/dsc00051od7.jpg http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/4615/dsc00052ss7.jpg http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/589/dsc00053yo1.jpg http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/8686/dsc00054ml0.jpg http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9608/dsc00055pn1.jpg http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/6448/dsc00056ne2.jpg http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/269/dsc00057bx8.jpg http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2245/dsc00058jb8.jpg http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2109/dsc00059pt7.jpg http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/7751/dsc00060av4.jpg http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/562/dsc00061kf1.jpg http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5692/dsc00062rh8.jpg http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/5728/dsc00063eg6.jpg http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3462/dsc00064tn5.jpg http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9804/dsc00065dm3.jpg http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3928/dsc00066dj3.jpg http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1664/dsc00067do2.jpg http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8843/dsc00068vs4.jpg http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3705/dsc00069pk8.jpg http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4751/dsc00070ny0.jpg http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7807/dsc00071dn3.jpg http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7865/dsc00072fy0.jpg http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6606/dsc00073zu8.jpg http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9877/dsc00074xk1.jpg http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4092/dsc00075rc3.jpg
Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?
Hi Walter,You should make him send them to 11 different addresses. I'll volunteer mine and my work'sand be happy to forwardthem on to you, gratis. Let me know and I'll send you the addresses. --PeterWalter Reuben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have sent an email to ebay complaining about overcharging for shipping. In fact, the morons that run ebay seem to only have a policy in place on overcharging for one item. So I doubt that they will regard the $90+ that this scam artist is charging to ship multiple pieces as too much, but let us see. Just to put it in context---I won on ebay yesterday 12 scripts from another L.A. seller, who has already invoiced me $8.50 to ship me all of them. If ebay does not persuade the seller to change his shipping fee, then I will pay him in full, hopefully he will leave me positive feedback, and, then yes you can believe that I will leave him the feedback that he deserves. However, if he does not leave any feedback for me, I may just leave him the 11 negatives that he has earned ANYWAY. I realize that my 11 bad feedbacks will only translate into one minus in the arithmetic, but one does what one can. My feedback is now 1804, and his is 6. And, if he does leave retaliatory feedback, so what? I already have two negatives, both long ago and retaliatory. Bruce Hershenson even has a few, and he so totally bends over backward in all his shipping and return policies. If you do enough business on ebay, it will happen sooner or later. Walter Reuben- Original Message - From: JR To: Walter Reuben Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Walter,Alternatively, if you really want the items, go ahead and pay his outrageous shipping charge and let him leave positive feedback for you. Then, you leave 13 NEGATIVE feedbacks on him, citing his shipping scam as the reason. He'll probably fall for it and you'll be able to hit him hard and escape any retaliatory feedback on your account. It might be worth the extra $75 bucks just to have the satisfaction of doing that to him.-- JR- Original Message - From: JR To: Walter Reuben ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 14:39 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?Walter,You have the advantage on him. Think about it. You've won 13 individual items from him, right? You tell him he either combines shipping for them and gives you a reasonable shipping quote or:1) You'll report him to eBay for excessive shipping charges (something they are taking seriously right now), but MOST IMPORTANT:2) You will leave 13 NEGATIVEFEEDBACKS for him. 13 negative feedbacks will send *any* seller's rating into the toilet, even if he has hundreds of positives. If he retaliates and it hurts your feedback to much, just open a new account on eBay and start over -- that's not a big deal for a buyer to do. For a seller it's a bigger hit.You are in the driver's seat here. Just let this bozo know that.--JR - Original Message - From: Walter Reuben To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 13:04 Subject: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?seller ID is Bravo_George, and right now he is not getting very many "bravo's" out of me Walter - Original Message - From: Richard Auras To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, I don't if I missed it but what is the seller ID for the gouger so we can all be wary of him. ThanksRick Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content.Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content.Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?
Ditto here. I think he would reconsider this policy if we did this. Rick - Original Message From: P Molitor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUSent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 6:56:59 PMSubject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Hi Walter, You should make him send them to 11 different addresses. I'll volunteer mine and my work'sand be happy to forwardthem on to you, gratis. Let me know and I'll send you the addresses. --PeterWalter Reuben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have sent an email to ebay complaining about overcharging for shipping. In fact, the morons that run ebay seem to only have a policy in place on overcharging for one item. So I doubt that they will regard the $90+ that this scam artist is charging to ship multiple pieces as too much, but let us see. Just to put it in context---I won on ebay yesterday 12 scripts from another L.A. seller, who has already invoiced me $8.50 to ship me all of them. If ebay does not persuade the seller to change his shipping fee, then I will pay him in full, hopefully he will leave me positive feedback, and, then yes you can believe that I will leave him the feedback that he deserves. However, if he does not leave any feedback for me, I may just leave him the 11 negatives that he has earned ANYWAY. I realize that my 11 bad feedbacks will only translate into one minus in the arithmetic, but one does what one can. My feedback is now 1804, and his is 6. And, if he does leave retaliatory feedback, so what? I already have two negatives, both long ago and retaliatory. Bruce Hershenson even has a few, and he so totally bends over backward in all his shipping and return policies. If you do enough business on ebay, it will happen sooner or later. Walter Reuben - Original Message - From: JR To: Walter Reuben Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, Alternatively, if you really want the items, go ahead and pay his outrageous shipping charge and let him leave positive feedback for you. Then, you leave 13 NEGATIVE feedbacks on him, citing his shipping scam as the reason. He'll probably fall for it and you'll be able to hit him hard and escape any retaliatory feedback on your account. It might be worth the extra $75 bucks just to have the satisfaction of doing that to him. -- JR - Original Message - From: JR To: Walter Reuben ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 14:39 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, You have the advantage on him. Think about it. You've won 13 individual items from him, right? You tell him he either combines shipping for them and gives you a reasonable shipping quote or: 1) You'll report him to eBay for excessive shipping charges (something they are taking seriously right now), but MOST IMPORTANT: 2) You will leave 13 NEGATIVEFEEDBACKS for him. 13 negative feedbacks will send *any* seller's rating into the toilet, even if he has hundreds of positives. If he retaliates and it hurts your feedback to much, just open a new account on eBay and start over -- that's not a big deal for a buyer to do. For a seller it's a bigger hit. You are in the driver's seat here. Just let this bozo know that. --JR - Original Message - From: Walter Reuben To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 13:04 Subject: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? seller ID is Bravo_George, and right now he is not getting very many "bravo's" out of me Walter - Original Message - From: Richard Auras To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, I don't if I missed it but what is the seller ID for the gouger so we can all be wary of him. Thanks Rick Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL
Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?
Great idea. I'll volunteer mine as well and ship back to you for free, just write me privately and I'll send you my work address. From: Richard Auras [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: Richard Auras [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUSubject: Re: Fw: [MOPO] What to do?Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:07:55 -0700 Ditto here. I think he would reconsider this policy if we did this. Rick - Original Message From: P Molitor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUSent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 6:56:59 PMSubject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Hi Walter, You should make him send them to 11 different addresses. I'll volunteer mine and my work'sand be happy to forwardthem on to you, gratis. Let me know and I'll send you the addresses. --PeterWalter Reuben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have sent an email to ebay complaining about overcharging for shipping. In fact, the morons that run ebay seem to only have a policy in place on overcharging for one item. So I doubt that they will regard the $90+ that this scam artist is charging to ship multiple pieces as too much, but let us see. Just to put it in context---I won on ebay yesterday 12 scripts from another L.A. seller, who has already invoiced me $8.50 to ship me all of them. If ebay does not persuade the seller to change his shipping fee, then I will pay him in full, hopefully he will leave me positive feedback, and, then yes you can believe that I will leave him the feedback that he deserves. However, if he does not leave any feedback for me, I may just leave him the 11 negatives that he has earned ANYWAY. I realize that my 11 bad feedbacks will only translate into one minus in the arithmetic, but one does what one can. My feedback is now 1804, and his is 6. And, if he does leave retaliatory feedback, so what? I already have two negatives, both long ago and retaliatory. Bruce Hershenson even has a few, and he so totally bends over backward in all his shipping and return policies. If you do enough business on ebay, it will happen sooner or later. Walter Reuben - Original Message - From: JR To: Walter Reuben Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, Alternatively, if you really want the items, go ahead and pay his outrageous shipping charge and let him leave positive feedback for you. Then, you leave 13 NEGATIVE feedbacks on him, citing his shipping scam as the reason. He'll probably fall for it and you'll be able to hit him hard and escape any retaliatory feedback on your account. It might be worth the extra $75 bucks just to have the satisfaction of doing that to him. -- JR - Original Message - From: JR To: Walter Reuben ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 14:39 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, You have the advantage on him. Think about it. You've won 13 individual items from him, right? You tell him he either combines shipping for them and gives you a reasonable shipping quote or: 1) You'll report him to eBay for excessive shipping charges (something they are taking seriously right now), but MOST IMPORTANT: 2) You will leave 13 NEGATIVEFEEDBACKS for him. 13 negative feedbacks will send *any* seller's rating into the toilet, even if he has hundreds of positives. If he retaliates and it hurts your feedback to much, just open a new account on eBay and start over -- that's not a big deal for a buyer to do. For a seller it's a bigger hit. You are in the driver's seat here. Just let this bozo know that. --JR - Original Message - From: Walter Reuben To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 13:04 Subject: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? seller ID is Bravo_George, and right now he is not getting very many "bravo's" out of me Walter - Original Message - From: Richard Auras To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, I don't if I missed it but what is the seller ID for the gouger so we can all be wary of him. Thanks Rick Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of
Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?
Why bother giving 11 addresses because then they have to be forwarded to Walter which would now incur additional postage. Just have Walter pay him for one and have it shipped. When it is shipped then pay him for the next one, etc., etc., etc. (i.e. have him send each one as a separate order.) CJL Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?
I'm in too, Walter - Sounds like fun. Alan Adler On Aug 27, 2006, at 5:27 PM, Doug Taylor wrote: I’m in. You can have one sent to me. DBT From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kusumoto Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:13 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Great idea. I'll volunteer mine as well and ship back to you for free, just write me privately and I'll send you my work address. From: Richard Auras [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Richard Auras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:07:55 -0700 Ditto here. I think he would reconsider this policy if we did this. Rick - Original Message From: P Molitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 6:56:59 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Hi Walter, You should make him send them to 11 different addresses. I'll volunteer mine and my work's and be happy to forward them on to you, gratis. Let me know and I'll send you the addresses. --Peter Walter Reuben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have sent an email to ebay complaining about overcharging for shipping. In fact, the morons that run ebay seem to only have a policy in place on overcharging for one item. So I doubt that they will regard the $90+ that this scam artist is charging to ship multiple pieces as too much, but let us see. Just to put it in context---I won on ebay yesterday 12 scripts from another L.A. seller, who has already invoiced me $8.50 to ship me all of them. If ebay does not persuade the seller to change his shipping fee, then I will pay him in full, hopefully he will leave me positive feedback, and, then yes you can believe that I will leave him the feedback that he deserves. However, if he does not leave any feedback for me, I may just leave him the 11 negatives that he has earned ANYWAY. I realize that my 11 bad feedbacks will only translate into one minus in the arithmetic, but one does what one can. My feedback is now 1804, and his is 6. And, if he does leave retaliatory feedback, so what? I already have two negatives, both long ago and retaliatory. Bruce Hershenson even has a few, and he so totally bends over backward in all his shipping and return policies. If you do enough business on ebay, it will happen sooner or later. Walter Reuben - Original Message - From: JR To: Walter Reuben Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, Alternatively, if you really want the items, go ahead and pay his outrageous shipping charge and let him leave positive feedback for you. Then, you leave 13 NEGATIVE feedbacks on him, citing his shipping scam as the reason. He'll probably fall for it and you'll be able to hit him hard and escape any retaliatory feedback on your account. It might be worth the extra $75 bucks just to have the satisfaction of doing that to him. -- JR - Original Message - From: JR To: Walter Reuben ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 14:39 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, You have the advantage on him. Think about it. You've won 13 individual items from him, right? You tell him he either combines shipping for them and gives you a reasonable shipping quote or: 1) You'll report him to eBay for excessive shipping charges (something they are taking seriously right now), but MOST IMPORTANT: 2) You will leave 13 NEGATIVE FEEDBACKS for him. 13 negative feedbacks will send *any* seller's rating into the toilet, even if he has hundreds of positives. If he retaliates and it hurts your feedback to much, just open a new account on eBay and start over -- that's not a big deal for a buyer to do. For a seller it's a bigger hit. You are in the driver's seat here. Just let this bozo know that. --JR - Original Message - From: Walter Reuben To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 13:04 Subject: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? seller ID is Bravo_George, and right now he is not getting very many bravo's out of me Walter - Original Message - From: Richard Auras To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, I don't if I missed it but what is the seller ID for the gouger so we can all be wary of him. Thanks Rick Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? feedback.......
this thread would have a different tone if the feedback system was fair. why should scammers, cheats and asses have the ability to tarnish a responsible bidder? non-payers can leave bad feedback. what is a more grotesque example of feedback stupidity. a 9.00 transaction and a 900.00 transaction should not carry equal weight. but ebay is sooo stupid about this. feedback has become extortion by bad ebayers. EBAY IS NO INNOCENT BYSTANDER. I EXPLAINED MY 1ST FEEDBACK RECENTLY..ofan enemyof mine starting a new account for the sole purpose of leaving bad feedback. the facts of this scam was so glaringly vivid, but ebay only gave canned responses. ebay is s fuu---kn stupidly bureaucratic. don't you love their canned emails from people with names like ubtyut and tyuirpe and wopighty and poqwerti and riotnod? ebay.a company that has no telephone assistance. i have about 40 items (not only posters) waiting to be listed/re-listed..but i have such a bad taste, i have no inclination to sell right now!!! soebay loses? this subject surfaces all the time. but EBAY PROFITS FINANCIALLY FROM BAD FEEDBACK. i said this last week. they have a mediation center with a link similar to paypaland owned/affiliated probably by an ebay company that for a fee ofabout 20.00 will mediate the removal of feedback in "mutual feedback withdrawal" isn't possible. i posted this info last week. yikes michael Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?
Title: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Mr. Ruben, You can have one sent to me too down here in San Diego and I can take it up to either you or Woolsey on one of my Los Angeles trips (Im heading up there twice this week alone.) Ive already been to your home when you were kind enough to allow me to shoot a few Hirschfeld items. Best, Daniel Kinske 1690 Seacoast Drive, Unit A Imperial Beach, CA 91932 (401) 440-0469 On 8/27/06 20:12, David Kusumoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great idea. I'll volunteer mine as well and ship back to you for free, just write me privately and I'll send you my work address. From: Richard Auras [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Richard Auras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:07:55 -0700 Ditto here. I think he would reconsider this policy if we did this. Rick - Original Message From: P Molitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 6:56:59 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Hi Walter, You should make him send them to 11 different addresses. I'll volunteer mine and my work's and be happy to forward them on to you, gratis. Let me know and I'll send you the addresses. --Peter Walter Reuben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have sent an email to ebay complaining about overcharging for shipping. In fact, the morons that run ebay seem to only have a policy in place on overcharging for one item. So I doubt that they will regard the $90+ that this scam artist is charging to ship multiple pieces as too much, but let us see. Just to put it in context---I won on ebay yesterday 12 scripts from another L.A. seller, who has already invoiced me $8.50 to ship me all of them. If ebay does not persuade the seller to change his shipping fee, then I will pay him in full, hopefully he will leave me positive feedback, and, then yes you can believe that I will leave him the feedback that he deserves. However, if he does not leave any feedback for me, I may just leave him the 11 negatives that he has earned ANYWAY. I realize that my 11 bad feedbacks will only translate into one minus in the arithmetic, but one does what one can. My feedback is now 1804, and his is 6. And, if he does leave retaliatory feedback, so what? I already have two negatives, both long ago and retaliatory. Bruce Hershenson even has a few, and he so totally bends over backward in all his shipping and return policies. If you do enough business on ebay, it will happen sooner or later. Walter Reuben - Original Message - From: JR mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Walter Reuben mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, Alternatively, if you really want the items, go ahead and pay his outrageous shipping charge and let him leave positive feedback for you. Then, you leave 13 NEGATIVE feedbacks on him, citing his shipping scam as the reason. He'll probably fall for it and you'll be able to hit him hard and escape any retaliatory feedback on your account. It might be worth the extra $75 bucks just to have the satisfaction of doing that to him. -- JR - Original Message - From: JR mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Walter Reuben mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 14:39 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, You have the advantage on him. Think about it. You've won 13 individual items from him, right? You tell him he either combines shipping for them and gives you a reasonable shipping quote or: 1) You'll report him to eBay for excessive shipping charges (something they are taking seriously right now), but MOST IMPORTANT: 2) You will leave 13 NEGATIVE FEEDBACKS for him. 13 negative feedbacks will send *any* seller's rating into the toilet, even if he has hundreds of positives. If he retaliates and it hurts your feedback to much, just open a new account on eBay and start over -- that's not a big deal for a buyer to do. For a seller it's a bigger hit. You are in the driver's seat here. Just let this bozo know that. --JR - Original Message - From: Walter Reuben mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 13:04 Subject: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? seller ID is Bravo_George, and right now he is not getting very many bravo's out of me Walter - Original Message - From: Richard Auras mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] What to do? Walter, I don't if I missed it but what is the seller ID for the gouger so we can all be wary of him. Thanks Rick Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY
Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?
I Like Claude's idea...as long as you tell him that the next payment will be made only after you receive each item. Maybe the guy will change his tune and give in. Make him pay too! Doug Original Message - From: Claude Litton To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do? Why bother giving 11 addresses because then they have to be forwarded to Walter which would now incur additional postage. Just have Walter pay him for one and have it shipped. When it is shipped then pay him for the next one, etc., etc., etc. (i.e. have him send each one as a separate order.) CJL Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.