Re: [MOPO] On Topic - What should I do?

[Craig Goebel]

It's an interesting discussion - and as a buyer and someone who pays lots to 
have posters restored - I see a great difference between posters restored by 
Dario, for instance, using the more supple canvas and those on the stiff stuff 
used by other backers and that are sometimes the subject of large scale 
auctions of all-backed posters on ebay. These stiff linenbacked posters often 
need to be counter-rolled for long periods of time to flatten. I don't see much 
point in buying these posters.

It might be worth knowing what kind of canvas was used, if there's an 
opportunity to ask the seller, as better materials improve the outcomes of a 
good restorer. 

I expect that many sellers and buyers might not know the types of canvas. Maybe 
someone can describe the various types being used in a manner that would allow 
both parties to know what is being asked and answered.

Craig 
Vancouver
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dario Casadei 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 2:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] On Topic - What should I do?


  Guys,
  There is a few tricks to eliminate the ripple effect, in fact there is no 
excuse why a one sheet should be rippled. One of them is, when stretching the 
Canvas on to frame, staple much less than an inch between each staple. wet 
before putting paper down.

  Also, I use  a high end 13 Duck canvas, and with a few tweaks of the trade, 
all my linen backed posters has a very soft manageable roll, rather than a 
stiff unmanageable roll to it.

  The bigger the poster the harder to control the ripple.

  Best,
  dario.


  Susan Heim wrote:

Hi Channing,
  It is actually more of a product of the person doing the linenbacking 
than the actual material itself. Now I do get some linenbacked posters to frame 
that are on very inferior material. By that, I mean it is often very coarse and 
you can tell it is very cheap canvas. Sylvia uses a canvas that actually 
includes a bit of a silky thread content and that makes the fabric lay much 
nicer and the fabric is much more supple. Often in the linenbacking process, 
less experienced restorers use too much glue and/or too much water. In 
combination with the different types of fabrics, the "rippling" can be minimal 
all the way up to a mess to deal with. So, that's the scoop. Hope it helps.

Sue
  - Original Message - 
  From: channinglylethomson 
  To: MOPO ; Susan Heim 
  Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 9:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] On Topic - What should I do?


  Hi Sue -- are there certain canvases that have less memory and  
  consequently have less rolling over time?

  Thanks, Channing

  On Mar 17, 2007, at 9:25 AM, Susan Heim wrote:

  > Hi Tom and Michael,
  > It is not uncommon for linenbacked posters of any size to do a bit  
  > of rippling, especially out at the edges. It will sometimes reduce as  
  > the poster "grows" into it's new environment. A linenbacked poster,  
  > and even a non linenbacked poster, rarely lays flat when you put it on  
  > a table. That waviness will not magically disappear when you frame it.  
  > It is part of the paper and/or fabric. Remember, these posters are  
  > linenbacked with water and glue and that combination with fabric  
  > causes a bit of "quilting" as I call it. It is just the nature of the  
  > beast and will be different with pretty much every poster. If you have  
  > your framer put in some additional pieces of foamcore strips along the  
  > back edge of the frame and staple it in tightly, that rippling at the  
  > edge will diminish a bit. In actually it is really just pushing the  
  > "waviness" to other parts of the poster that are less noticeable. When  
  > you have a matted piece, the bevel of the mat becomes a focus point  
  > and if the poster isn't laying flat right behind the bevel it is more  
  > noticeable. The larger the poster is the more noticeable "waviness"  
  > is. So, don't fret. This exact situation is why so many people  
  > drymount posters to get them as flat as possible. Since we don't do  
  > that with collectables, we have to deal with paper's little  
  > idiosynchrocies. However, this situation is also one of the reasons I  
  > always say "an experienced linenbacker" is the most important person  
  > to your poster's longevity.
  > 
  > Sue Heim
  > www.hollywoodposterframes.com
  > (800) 463-2994
  >> - Original Message -
  >> From: Tom A. Pennock
  >> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  >> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 6:15 PM
  >> Subject: Re: [MOPO] On Topic - What should I do?
  >>
  >>
  >> Andrea:
  >> 
  >> I have a 45" x 59" subway poster from "You Only Live Twice" that I  
  >> bought linenbacked. It is buckling around the edges with a mat. It  
  >> was professionally

Re: [MOPO] I Saw 300 Last Night

[Craig Goebel]

Apparently the cast spent 2 or 3 months in a Montreal studio in front of blue 
and green screens and without context must have reacted like simple-minded 
people do when speaking to the hearing-impaired - they shout and gesticulate 
broadly. Sad really, because properly-used CGI is a valuable tool in support of 
the prospective story, but a lame substitute if there is nothing on which to 
hang the action. 

Considering that about 9 years ago novelist / screenwriter Steven (The Legend 
of Bagger Vance) Pressfield wrote an impressive, literary account of the 
Spartans and the battle in the novel Gates of Fire, which I have been hoping 
would be done as a more-than-worthy follow-up to the original film, this 
dully-shot, loudly-shouted, characterless vanity-piece comic is a pale, unhappy 
experience by comparison. Read a book! What a thing to say to a movie crowd.

Craig, Vancouver

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirby McDaniel 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] I Saw 300 Last Night


  Sounds dreadful.  Give me HELEN OF TROY.
  Or at least CLASH OF THE TITANS.
  Hell, I'd even settle for ALONE AGAINST ROME.
  I'll just stay home and watch ROME on HBO.
  In HD.
  and HIFI.
  Kirby

  On Mar 11, 2007, at 1:32 PM, Craig Miller wrote:

  > At 03:45 PM 3/10/07 -0800, channinglylethomson wrote:
  >> It was a terrific night at the big Imax theatre.  One thing  
  >> crossed my
  >> mind -- celebrating Sparta is a little like toasting Nazi Germany.  I
  >> hope the film inspires young viewers to learn about the reality of  
  >> the
  >> times and some of the deeper meanings of  the history involved.
  >
  > I saw 300 a few weeks ago, albeit not in Imax.  It was pretty
  > amazing although, as drama goes, pretty poor.  No one
  > speaks.  Everything is shouted.  There's pretty much no
  > characterization.  And it's like a video game, except you
  > don't get to actually play.  Half an hour of story set up
  > followed by level after level, oops, I mean wave after wave of
  > different enemies come marching toward our heroes who
  > fight them off.  First one kind of soldier than another kind of
  > soldier than this kind of animal than that kind of behemoth
  > then that kind of animal.  The only interesting parts -- other
  > than visually -- were the encounters between Leonidas, the
  > leader of the Spartans and Xerxes, leader of the Persians.
  >
  > It's visually stunning, well capturing the Frank Miller imagery
  > from the comic it's based on.  The movie will do huge
  > business with the high school and college set.  But it is
  > strictly a violent popcorn movie.
  >
  > (A friend said "two hours of homo-erotic action", which it
  > surely is.)
  >
  > Craig.
  >
  >
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Re: [MOPO] THE MAMAS AND THE PAPAS

[Craig Goebel]

interesting - the tie in is that the irrepressible Denny Doherty passed away 
last week in Mississauga, Ontario at 67 years of age.

>From imdb - Denny Doherty was born and reared in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada 
>and began his musical career there in a local rock band, The Hepsters, while 
>working in a pawn shop. He had started singing in public at age 15, on a dare 
>by performing "Love Letters In The Stand" in a skating rink-turned-dance-hall. 
>In 1959 he formed his first folk trio, The Colonials, and after changing their 
>name to The Halifax Three, signed a recording contract in New York. After 
>recording two albums, the trio broke up, and Denny linked with Cass Elliot as 
>a member of her group, The Big Three, which later became The Mugwumps, the 
>first folk-rock group. Cass and Denny later joined John and Michelle Phillips 
>of The New Journeymen to become The Mamas and The Papas. In 1965 the group 
>relocated to Los Angeles where, over the next four years, they turned out a 
>score of top-selling albums and singles featuring Doherty and Elliot's lead 
>vocals, including "California Dreamin'," "Monday Monday" and "I Saw Her 
>Again." Upon the collapse of the group, Denny recorded two solo albums, and 
>material for an unreleased third. (One of these albums reunited him with 
>former Mamas Michelle and Cass as they sang background vocals for 1974's 
>Waiting For A Song.). 

Doherty played the lead in Andy Warhol and John Phillips' Man on the Moon on 
Broadway in 1975 and Doherty was cast in The Irish Art Centre's Juno and the 
Paycock. In 1978 he returned to Canada and hosted "Denny's Sho" on Canadian 
television. During the 1980s he reunited with fellow Papa, John Phillips in The 
New Mamas and Papas and toured the United States as well as Europe and Asia. 
Having returned to home in Canada, Doherty's many stage credits there include 
North Mountain Breakdown, Needfire and Paul Ledoux's Fire as well as The Secret 
Garden. Film/TV credits include "Pit Pony" and The Harbourmaster in "Theodore 
Tugboat." Denny was inducted into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame in 1996; The 
Mamas and The Papas were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1998, 
and the Vocal Group Hall of Fame in 2001. In recent years, Doherty told the 
tale of his life with The Mamas and The Papas, in Dream A Little Dream which 
ran in Halifax, Toronto, and finally Off-Broadway in 2003. Doherty was married 
briefly to Linda Woodward in the early seventies with whom he had a daughter, 
Jessica. He lived outside Toronto with his other two children, Emberly and 
John, to whose mother Jeannette, Doherty was married for twenty years until her 
death in 1998. He died on January 19, 2007, following kidney problems. 
  - Original Message - 
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  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:41 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] FS: not a movie poster: THE MAMAS AND THE PAPAS standee




  
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:31&item=320077258762




  Not a film poster, but possibly of interest to collectors also
  interested in music stuff.  Record store standee display for
  FAREWELL TO THE FIRST GOLDEN ERA, the first "Best of"
  album of The Mamas and the Papas.







  Kirby McDaniel

  MovieArt Original Film Posters

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Re: [MOPO] EBAY DOES IT AGAIN!

[Craig Goebel]

If  the change as Bruce suggests is to curb ebay-generated off-site deals, then 
that will never happen because ebay is a market and a market by definition is 
only a forum for offering and is always of limited time, goods or buyers. 
People seek opportunities and will pick or make a market based on enlightened 
fiscal self-interest and there will always be unethical substrata seeking to 
exploit that. Now and then someone sends me an ebay email or non-ebay email 
offering an  item similar to that on which I have bid and which I delete.

On the other hand, few efforts to protect a market by indirect action or by 
trying to corner it through controlling a significant component have been 
successful. Ebay should do a better job monitoring its email system and dealing 
with those people and it's not by hiding bidder id's because most solicitations 
are for stuff worth less than $200 and my id is still viewable on those 
auctions. 

If someone has been bidding as a shill to get the price to $200 and other 
bidders have taken note of their competitors before that, then a shill might be 
found out; it might be too risky for a seller not to have a shill come in until 
after $200. Of course that means watching auctions earlier or not bidding if 
the price has exceeded $200.

However, before now I could check out the seller and other bidders whose 
feedback and info might give me a small indication of the propriety of the 
auction. Now I might NOT bid on big ticket auctions of a seller with any degree 
or certain types of negative feedback, but so too bad for that seller. If an 
item worth at least $200 is set to start at $200 or goes past $200 from a lower 
start, then the bidder is going to have to set his max and stay at it however 
the bidding progresses. 

There's no big difference in the new system than with a private auction, except 
now at least there's an idea of how many bidders there are and how each of 
their bids go, which is actually an inprovement from the anonymity of private 
auctions.

Craig, Vancouver




  - Original Message - 
  From: Bruce Hershenson 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 9:49 AM
  Subject: [MOPO] EBAY DOES IT AGAIN!


  I see Kirby asked for my opinion of the latest eBay change. I just wrote 
about this in my latest e-mail club message. For any MoPo members not in my 
e-mail club, here are my thoughts on eBay's latest mis-adventure:

  EBAY DOES IT AGAIN! eBay is constantly tinkering with their site (you know 
the old expression, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"?; eBay's motto seems to 
be, "If it ain't broke we will tinker with it until we finally break it!"). 
What is their latest misadventure? They have taken all eBay auctions and made 
them "semi-private"! Their stated purpose is to stop all of the fake second 
chance offers that are made all the time, and they SAY that they are limiting 
this move to just items over $200 (because that is where the most fraud is), 
but I don't believe them for a second! If that were true, they would not have 
made the "view seller's other items" page not show the high bidders' IDs, only 
a weird "Bidder One", "Bidder Two", etc., because any scammer can still see all 
the bids on any sub-$200 item (and those that are still under $200, but will 
end up over). Only honest bidders are hassled by this latest development, 
because they can no longer see the list of high bidder IDs (the!
   y have to click on items one by one to see the high bidder, and they can't 
even do that if the item is over $200).
   What do I think is really going on? I think eBay has finally realized 
that a huge amount of sales take place "off site" and that many people only 
LIST items on eBay, but then contact the bidders (or prospective buyers contact 
them) and then a deal is made off eBay. I think eBay wants to stop this, and is 
using the "scammer defense" as an excuse to soon make ALL auctions private. I 
think that eventually buyers and sellers will not see very much about each 
other until AFTER the deal is completed (much as things currently are for 
sellers on Amazon).
   What does this mean for sellers on eBay, and for me personally? I think 
it will likely have little effect on my sales, since all of my sales were 
completely "private" for a couple of years (and before that, all my major sales 
were "private" as well). It was only a few months ago that I returned to all 
"public" sales, and there was little difference in them then, and I would think 
therefore this latest change will mostly be a "non-event" for me personally, 
especially since most of my items stay under $200 for almost the entire time 
they are for auction (and since all start at 99 cents, you can see the bids of 
those that end up over $200 while they are still under $200). For instance, 
this week just FOUR of my items are currently over $200 as of right now. The 
only likely change I can see is that those people who used to place early bi

Re: [MOPO] Ritchies Auction

[Craig Goebel]

Ritchie's Auction is a large industrial auction house in 
Vancouver, which has over the years expanded world-wide and is 
publically-traded, but I doubt it has enough expertise in paper 
collectibles to give comfort to an experienced collector. 
Craig

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  David Kuspa 
  
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:36 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Ritchies 
Auction
  Wow, I didn't see that one. It's in very poor shape. 
  "Condition: A???!!" REDFLAG.I'll pass on this 
  auction.-_Davidon 10/28/06 6:43 PM, Sean Linkenback at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:>>From: David Kuspa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> Does 
  anyone have experience with Ritchies Auctions in Canada?> > I 
  would be extremely careful with this auction unless I was attending in> 
  person.  It is quite obvious that a majority of images are NOT of the 
  posters> they are selling, and then the grading on the items they do 
  have real images> of appears to be horrible.  Look at the Invasion 
  of the Body Snatchers lobby> set for example that is graded A-.  
  It has cards with pieces missing and tape> stains.  How in the 
  world do you get an A- out of this?  With the super-steep> buyers 
  premium, plus having to arrange your own 3rd party shipping, this is> 
  one I would definitely avoid.> > Sean> 
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Re: [MOPO] Best Poster Find!!

[Craig Goebel]

ok - some people are nuts for bad 50s sci-fi flix posters, 
strange but true. But where are the people declaiming that their best find is 
Cool Hand Luke? It is regularly the subject of intense bidding and goes for 
several hundreds of dollars. Why? Virtually no other Newman than Butch/Kid sells 
for anything. It's a good flick sure, but no award for the star, though George 
Kennedy got one. The poster's a few ziggy orange lines with a poor pic of 
Paul, so what gives? There are some others like this. There is no accounting for 
taste of course. Craig

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Smith, Grey - 367 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 9:36 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Best Poster 
  Find!!
  Small comic store in Houston, 1985. Forbidden Planet one sheet 
  $300, Invaders from Mars one sheet $50, Attack of the Fifty Foot Woman $50. 
  Flash Gordon's Trip to Mars Chapter 14, one of the best chapter sheets for 
  $400. All in great condition. I passed on the $500 Day the Earth Stood 
  Still!-Original Message-From: MoPo List 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of GregFerlandSent: 
  Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:02 PMTo: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUSubject: 
  Re: [MOPO] Best Poster Find!!I've had a few back when it seemed so 
  easy:Breakfast At Tiffany's 1-sheet on Ebay Buy it Now 
  for$300.1932 Mickey Mouse 1-sheet for Whoopee Party for $1500Bride 
  of Frankenstein window card for $5,000Spartacus set of 10 22x28 posters in 
  Big Reel for $30,sold for $3500.And a few 
  othersGreg--- Kirby McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> 
  Ugliest poster for the best price!!!> > Kirby> > 
  > On Sep 19, 2006, at 8:36 PM,> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:> > > For me I would have to say "Grand Hotel."> 
  > Cheers,> > Brek> >> > -- 
  Original message --> > From: Kirby McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > and a 
  great poster it is, too> >> > Kirby> >> 
  >> > On Sep 19, 2006, at 6:49 PM, pj angel wrote:> 
  >> >> Best poster find?> >>> >> 
  Easy. WRITTEN ON THE WIND,> Universal-International, one sheet 
  for  > >> $10.> >>> >> When? Would 
  you believe last month?> >>> >> http://www.bigtownfilmposters.us/id821.htm> 
  >>> >> Okay, not in the best shape, I know, but come 
  on!> 10 bucks?> >>> >> Dario does his magic 
  and turns this ugly duckling> into a beautiful  > >> 
  swan.> >>> >> pj> >>> >> 
  Susan Heim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:> >> Original Spellbound one sheet for $6.00. Now, 
  of> course, it was  > >> 1974, but I also bought 
  Funny Lady with Barbra> Streisand at the  > >> same 
  time for $6.00 (still worth $6.00). The> killer is, the guy  
  > >> had three copies of Spellbound in the folder, but> I 
  was a poor  > >> college student and only bought one 
  copy.> >>> >>> >>> >> 
  Sue> >>> >>> >> - Original Message 
  -> >> From: Eric Melanson> >> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> 
  >> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 3:28 PM> >> Subject: 
  [MOPO] Could we please move on to> posters!> >>> 
  >> I enjoy many intelligent postings from this> Forum, and 
  have  > >> learned an> >> awful lot about the 
  movie poster collecting hobby> as a result.> >>> 
  >> The last few days of diatribes going back and> forth is 
  not  > >> enhancing the> >> list.> 
  >>> >> Could someone start a good new 
  thread.here's> one...what is the  > >> 
  best> >> poster find you ever made?> >>> 
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Re: [MOPO] Best Poster Find!!

[Craig Goebel]

I've been collecting RCMP posters, one of which is 
Saskatchewan and that's a great find for me. It's in poor condition. Based on 
what Dario's done to restore other old posters for me, I've given it to him. The 
pix shown of Written on the Wind are representative of what Dario can do. 
Craig
 
 
 
 
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Richard Del Belso 
  
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:11 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Best Poster 
  Find!!
  WOW..THAT WAS A GREAT 
  BUY...AND A GREAT PLUG FOR DARIO. NOW I'M READY TO GIVE HIM A 
  TRY!  RICHARDPS: i got a great buy on the Spanish one-sheet for 
  WRITTEN ON THE WIND. it seems that Spanish posters don't command the big 
  bucks even when they're perfect, but this poster is as nice as the US 
  version...and I do love the movie. Oh, and the poster, though vintage, was 
  almost perfect.Richard Del 
  Belso>From: 
  pj angel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: 
  pj angel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>Subject: 
  Re: [MOPO] Best Poster Find!!>Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:49:05 
  -0700>>Best poster find?>>   Easy. 
  WRITTEN ON THE WIND, Universal-International, one sheet for 
  $10.>>   When? Would you believe last 
  month?>>   http://www.bigtownfilmposters.us/id821.htm>>   
  Okay, not in the best shape, I know, but come on! 10 
  bucks?>>   Dario does his magic and turns this ugly 
  duckling into a beautiful swan.>>   
  pj>>Susan Heim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:    
  Original Spellbound >one sheet for $6.00.  Now, of course, it was 
  1974, but I also bought Funny >Lady with Barbra Streisand at the same 
  time for $6.00 (still worth $6.00).  >The killer is, the guy had 
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Re: [MOPO] So let me ask you this...

[Craig Goebel]

It seems there are color locadinas that have no info on 
them - one assumes that they served the same purpose as the smaller B&W 
stills had in North American theatres - once your past the box office you don't 
really need to be reminded of the name of the flick but it's still nice to see 
some scenes. I have some Brannigan and some Hellfighters like that. 
Craig

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  Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 5:05 
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  Subject: [MOPO] So let me ask you 
  this...
  
  How many posters feature no words at all; not 
  even a title?
   
  I have a Cleopatra OS and I recently saw a 
  OS portrait shot of Butch Cassidy.
   
  Any others?
   
  Just curious,
  Andrea
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Re: [MOPO] wicker man

[Craig Goebel]

I saw the movie a couple months ago and enjoyed it yet again, 
so yes Phil, like Andrew, I am interested in what Britons know about Witchfinder 
General and Price's antipathy, that we others do not.  Craig

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:13 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] wicker man
  
  Phil
   
  I`m into British horror, but I don`t know the score as to why Vincent 
  Price wouldn`t talk about Witchfinder General, (an absolutely brilliant film 
  and one of Price`s best performances with a fantastic but harrowing 
  ending).
   
  Please, do tell...
   
  Regarding the remake of The Wicker Man.  Why oh why does Hollywood 
  tamper with these classics?  Films like The Wicker Man and the 
  original Psycho cannot be improved, so why attempt to do so?
   
  I`m sure Nicolas Cage has enough scripts dropping through his letterbox, 
  and enough money in the bank, so he doesn`t have to even entertain 
  remaking this classic.
   
  But then, what do I know?  
   
  Best 
   
  Andy Roberts
   
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Re: [MOPO] Glenn Ford Dies at 90 - Why no Lifetime Oscar?

[Craig Goebel]

Glenn is one of my favourite actors. His filmography 
partially noted below is a list of accomplishments that would gladden the 
heart of any film goer who wants to see good work and good stories. He would 
have had to have been proud. Gilda and The Blackboard Jungle sure are good. Most 
of the westerns are great as are his performances - Cowboy in particular. 

 
I sometimes wonder about the judgments accorded to actors' 
work by the AMPAS voters. The Oscars are widely known for being bestowed on 
those whose performances are big and showy and tragic. Naturalistic actors who 
didn't chew the scenery, like Ford don't even get nominated. Now sadly he'll 
just be one of the 3 second subjects of the in memorium at the next Oscars. He 
deserves better than that.
 

Of interest is that as a native son of Canada, he has 
never been accorded any cultural recognition by Canada, such as an Order of 
Canada for achievement in the arts. Shortsighted really. 

 
Craig, Vancouver
 

  Heaven with 
  a Gun (1969)  Jim Killian/Pastor Jim 
  Day of the Evil Gun 
  (1968)  Lorne Warfield  
  A Time for Killing 
  (1967)  Maj. Tom Wolcott
  Rage (1966)  Doc 
  Reuben
  Paris brûle-t-il? 
  (1966)  Lt. Gen. Omar N. Bradley... aka Is Paris Burning? (USA) 
  The Money Trap (1965) 
   Joe Baron 
  The Rounders (1965) 
   Ben Jones  
  Fate Is the Hunter 
  (1964)  Sam C. McBane 
  Advance to the Rear 
  (1964)  Capt. Jared Heath
  The Courtship of Eddie's 
  Father (1963)  Tom Corbett
  Experiment in Terror 
  (1962)  John 'Rip' Ripley
  Four Horsemen of the 
  Apocalypse (1962)  Julio Desnoyers 
  Pocketful of Miracles 
  (1961)  Dave 'the Dude' Conway 
  Cry for Happy (1961) 
   CPO Andy Cyphers 
  Cimarron (1960)  
  Yancey 'Cimarron' Cravat 
  The 
  Gazebo (1959)  Elliott Nash 
  It Started with a Kiss 
  (1959)  Sgt. Joe Fitzpatrick 
  Torpedo Run (1958)  
  Lt. Cmdr. Barney Doyle 
  Imitation General 
  (1958)  MSgt. Murphy Savage 
  The Sheepman (1958) 
   Jason Sweet
  Cowboy (1958)  Tom 
  Reese 
  Don't Go Near the Water 
  (1957)  Lt. J.G. Max Siegel 
  3:10 to Yuma (1957) 
   Ben Wade 
  The Teahouse of the August 
  Moon (1956)  Capt. Fisby 
  The Fastest Gun Alive 
  (1956)  George Temple/George Kelby, Jr. 
  Jubal (1956)  Jubal 
  Troop 
  Ransom! (1956)  
  David G. 'Dave' Stannard
  Trial (1955)  David 
  Blake 
  Interrupted Melody 
  (1955)  Dr. Thomas 'Tom'King 
  Blackboard Jungle 
  (1955)  Richard Dadier
  The Violent Men (1955) 
   John Parrish
  The Americano (1955) 
   Sam Dent 
  Human Desire (1954) 
   Jeff Warren 
  Appointment in Honduras 
  (1953)  Steve Corbett
  The Big Heat (1953) 
   Det. Sgt. Dave Bannion 
  Plunder of the Sun 
  (1953)  Al Colby 
  The Man from the Alamo 
  (1953)  John Stroud 
  Time Bomb (1953)  
  Maj. Peter Lyncort
  Affair in Trinidad 
  (1952)  Steve Emery 
  Young Man with Ideas 
  (1952)  Maxwell Webster
  The Green Glove (1952) 
   Michael 'Mike' Blake 
  The Secret of Convict 
  Lake (1951)  Jim Canfield 
  Follow the Sun (1951) 
   Ben Hogan 
  The Redhead and the 
  Cowboy (1951)  Gil Kyle 
  The Flying Missile 
  (1950)  Cmdr. William A. Talbot
  Convicted (1950)  
  Joe Hufford 
  The White Tower (1950) 
   Martin Ordway
  The Doctor 
  and the Girl (1949)  Dr. Michael Corday 
  Mr. Soft Touch (1949) 
   Joe Miracle
  Lust for Gold (1949) 
   Jacob 'Dutch' Walz
  The Undercover Man 
  (1949)  Frank Warren
  The Return of October 
  (1948)  Prof. Bentley Bassett Jr.
  The Loves of Carmen 
  (1948)  Don José Lizarabengoa 
  The Man from Colorado 
  (1948)  Col. Owen Devereaux 
  The Mating of Millie 
  (1948)  Doug Andrews 
  Framed (1947)  Mike 
  Lambert
  Gallant Journey (1946) 
   John J. Montgomery 
  A Stolen Life (1946) 
   Bill Emerson 
  Gilda (1946)  
  Johnny Farrell/Narrator 
  Destroyer (1943)  
  Mickey Donohue 
  The Desperadoes (1943) 
   Cheyenne Rogers 
  Flight Lieutenant 
  (1942)  Danny Doyle 
  The Adventures of Martin 
  Eden (1942)  Martin Eden
  Go West, Young Lady 
  (1941)  Sheriff Tex Miller 
  Texas (1941)  Tod 
  Ramsey 
  So Ends Our Night 
  (1941)  Ludwig Kern 
  Blondie Plays Cupid 
  (1940)  Charlie 
  The Lady in Question 
  (1940)  Pierre Morestan 
  Babies for Sale (1940) 
   Steve Burton aka Oscar Hanson 
  Men Without Souls 
  (1940)  Johnny Adams 
  Convicted Woman (1940) 
   Jim Brent (reporter)
  My Son Is 
  Guilty (1939)  Barney
  Heaven with a Barbed Wire 
  Fence (1939)  Joe 


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  P 
  Molitor 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 9:01 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Glenn Ford Dies at 90 
  - Why no Lifetime Oscar?
  
  Freaky.
   
  I was just checking 

Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?

[Craig Goebel]

Walter, undoubtedly you are aware that the ebay process 
of dropping items after 90 days after the listing ends is not entirely 
accurate insofar as it is always 90 days; if you wait until the 90th day for 
each item then leave negatives, there might be time left for the 
seller to get back and certainly he can reply in your negatives to him. I tried 
waiting one time to give a deserved negative for bad packing on the 90th day to 
avoid the relatiatory I knew would come; the listing lasted past 90 days and I 
got the retaliatory which was factually nonresponsive. Also, the calculation 
of  feedback percentage via subtracting negatives (or adding positives) 
does not work by numbers of negatives (or positives), but is based on a per 
member basis, so as to remove the multiplying effect of numerous negatives (or 
positives) and in addition any time you deal with the same person again, that 
person's feedback is not counted into your percentage though it is part of the 
running totals. So he'd get 13 negatives but from one member that would be 1 
negative in 7 feedbacks for 85.7%. So as I have stated before you must be ready 
to accept unfair retaliation in order to make the point that someone is a 
bad actor. Most worthy sellers and buyers can see them for what they are, if 
they look.
 
Craig, Vancouver

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Walter 
  Reuben 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 12:12 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to 
  do?
  
  I have sent an email to ebay complaining about 
  overcharging for shipping.
  In fact, the morons that run ebay seem to only 
  have a policy in place on overcharging for one item.  So I doubt that 
  they will regard the $90+ that this scam artist is charging to ship multiple 
  pieces as too much, but let us see.
  Just to put it in context---I won on ebay 
  yesterday 12 scripts from another L.A. seller, who has already invoiced me 
  $8.50 to ship me all of them.
  If ebay does not persuade the seller to change 
  his shipping fee, then I will pay him in full, hopefully he will leave me 
  positive feedback, and, then yes you can believe that I will leave him the 
  feedback that he deserves.
  However, if he does not leave any feedback for 
  me, I may just leave him the 11 negatives that he has earned 
  ANYWAY.   I realize that my 11 bad feedbacks will only translate 
  into one minus in the arithmetic, but one does what one can.
  My feedback is now 1804, and his is 
  6.   
  And, if he does leave retaliatory feedback, so 
  what?
  I already have two negatives, both long ago and 
  retaliatory.  Bruce Hershenson even has a few, and he so totally bends 
  over backward in all his shipping and return policies.  
  If you do enough business on ebay, it will happen 
  sooner or later.
  Walter Reuben
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
JR 

To: Walter Reuben 
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:42 
AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to 
do?


Walter,
 
Alternatively, if you really want the items, go ahead and pay his 
outrageous shipping charge and let him leave positive feedback for you. 
Then, you leave 13 NEGATIVE feedbacks on him, citing his shipping scam as 
the reason. He'll probably fall for it and you'll be able to hit him hard 
and escape any retaliatory feedback on your account. It might be worth the 
extra $75 bucks just to have the satisfaction of doing that to him.
 
-- JR
 
- Original Message - 
From: JR 
To: Walter Reuben ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 14:39
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?

Walter,
 
You have the advantage on him. Think about it. You've won 13 individual 
items from him, right? You tell him he either combines shipping for them and 
gives you a reasonable shipping quote or:
 
1) You'll report him to eBay for excessive shipping charges (something 
they are taking seriously right now), but MOST IMPORTANT:
 
2) You will leave 13 NEGATIVE FEEDBACKS  for him. 13 negative 
feedbacks will send *any* seller's rating into the toilet, even if he has 
hundreds of positives. If he retaliates and it hurts your feedback to much, 
just open a new account on eBay and start over -- that's not a big deal for 
a buyer to do. For a seller it's a bigger hit.
 
You are in the driver's seat here. Just let this bozo know that.
 
--JR
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Walter 
Reuben 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 13:04
Subject: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] What to do?

seller ID is Bravo_George, and right now he is 
not getting very many "bravo's" out of me
Walter
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Auras 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

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Re: [MOPO] Nicks, chips and paper loss - A question.

[Craig Goebel]

What auction isn't buyer beware, viz., use your own 
judgment but even that is ameliorated by fair sellers offering 
unconditional refunds. So there's generally an out for buyers and 
sellers avoid negative feedback, if mistakes are made.
 
If there's a substitute - a photo -  for having to 
explain what the relative condition of a poster is, then why have grading? 
 
 
If there's a time cost savings by not having to spend time or 
thought explaining the condition of the front, then why bother describing the 
back? Why not spend the money saved in time and use a photo of the back as well? 

 
Many times, having bought an older poster, I have been taken 
aback by the large amount of tape and usually bad tape at that, on the back, 
plus writing, both of which are often described as "some tape on back" and 
"small amount of writing that might bleed thru". I'd rather have had a picture 
of the back.
 
Sellers might well use a photo of the back (and a photo of the 
front) rather than expect people to read through dense explanations that relate 
- sometimes -  to a series of condition opinions on which not everyone 
agrees and that really just are meant to state - look at the photo(s) and make 
your own judgment. Most buyers end up doing that anyway. 
 
Craig
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  JR 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 9:31 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Nicks, chips and 
  paper loss - A question.
  
  The word "chip" come from the world book collecting, where it has been 
  used to describe paper loss forever. Many auctioneers sold books before moving 
  into other areas of paper collecting the term carried over. 
   
  But there's no question that condition and condition terms/description 
  are so subjective that to really do a good job you often make the poster sound 
  far worse than it really is. This is why I think Bruce has the right idea -- 
  don't give much of a written condition description at all, just put up an 
  extremely large-size, well-lit and well-photographed high-resolution picture 
  and tell people to examine it closely and let them make their own 
  condition evaluation. That way you only have to mention anything unusual on 
  the back. If you try to be conscientious and accurately describe every tiny 
  little condition detail of a poster, you always end up with something that 
  makes your C8 sound like a C5.
   
  -- JR
   
  - Original Message - 
  From: Phil Edwards 
  Cinema Arts 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 21:02
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Nicks, chips and paper loss - A 
  question.
  
  Just my personal take on 
  descriptions:
  I'd place a"nick" at 1/8" or less and not 
  necessarily mean that it was including paper loss.
  A "small" border tear means that there's no paper 
  loss and the tear does not intrude into the image area of the poster. Any 
  paper loss would be indicated. If  a poster has  a wide white 
  border, and has tear/tears over an inch, I'd probably be inclined to 
  give  a better idea of size of tear/s.
   
  Paper loss means missing paper, whether coursed 
  through fold separations (i.e. not a clean split, but actually missing image 
  or white border paper loss) or tears. Anything bigger than that comes more 
  under the term "papr out" or "paper missing".
   
  Of course the more detail one gives often gives a 
  misleading idea of the overall condition of a poster making it sound far, far 
  worse than itactually is. We routinely receive feedback that says, "far better 
  condition than described". Maybve we'd sell more if we were less pedantic 
  about describing condition issues. Even big digital images "lie" as to seeing 
  what's what with a poster, and while it takes longer, we prefer a verbal 
  description. If we say Near Mint-Mint (our top rating, rarely given) it means 
  that there's nothing discernible. Of course when one is wading through several 
  hundred items a week and not using a batallion of "buddy graders" to do the 
  work, itis possible that through eyestrain one misses something.
   
  But we  also live in the age of "condition 
  freak" where 50, 60, 70 year old posters are supposed to still look perfect. 
  And if they don't, through the fact that they were used for the purpose for 
  which they were designed, and were never intended for public 
  collectability, they can have a facelift through linen backing and cosmetic 
  enhancement so they LOOK perfect. It has to look "perfect" because we live in 
  an age of "perfection". One only has to look at the degree that many films are 
  "cleaned up" to for DVD release, but where the "clean-up" has actually removed 
  detail through removal of grain texture from the film as it was shot. It's 
  like the hard, cold sound that so many CDs have when conpared to the "warmth" 
  of the original analog vinyl versions.
   
  There are some collectors who cannot stand the 
  sight

Re: [MOPO] eBay Buyers Will Be Next...

[Craig Goebel]

Todd, the discussion that has been carried on has related to 
the excessive costs of doing business charged by many sellers, not the value of 
posters high or low. Part of the problem in regard to the former is that 
buyers HAVE sanctioned overcharging by sellers on the non-substantive items 
that make up the total, by saying to themselves "well the item was less than I 
expected", so I'll pay the overcharges. That's the point - the market has been 
skewed.
 
Thus the posters that are sold can be at revenue levels lower 
than what fair dealers might consider retail or market. But no one 
discusses poster prices when they are published as any more than a 
guide. What is the market price of a Barbarella B? This week 
it was $550 - because I didn't get a final bid in. Maybe it could have 
been $1000, but not when the market is half-dozen people - on ebay or 
anywhere. And the condition dictated caution. 
 
But ebay jacking fees or interdicting high shipping charges 
just because they are high (albeit properly set by fair sellers) make no sense 
as tools to "level the field". These are the wrong approaches. Though maybe if 
they have the effect of stimulating more auctions rather than the static 
pricing of ebay stores with the same items circulating for the same prices, 
never bought, then maybe that might enliven the site. 
 
I still look forward to the results of Bruce's survey. If his 
regular customers suggest they'll follow him off ebay - as many were going to do 
when ebay shut him down a while back and he mused about that, then other dealers 
should consider it too - maybe a connoisseur auction site is the way to 
go.
 
 
Craig
 
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Todd 
  Feiertag 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:58 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] eBay Buyers Will Be 
  Next...
  
  
  ... "you'll [buyers'll] have something to 
  squawk about" ... WE are already squawking!  And have no expectation that 
  things'll get better on ebay - Craig
   
  For the most part it's been a "buyers 
  market" on Ebay for quite some time now, so I don't understand what the 
  problem is as far as buyers are concerned.  All of my collector "Buyer" 
  friends love Ebay since they get great vintage posters for less than what the 
  current ones sell for.  
   
  Todd 
  Feiertag/Poster City 
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Craig 
Goebel 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:36 
PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] eBay Buyers Will Be 
Next...

... "you'll [buyers'll] have something to squawk about" 
... WE are already squawking!  And have no expectation that things'll 
get better on ebay - Craig 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dave 
  Rosen 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 4:23 
  PM
  Subject: [MOPO] eBay Buyers Will Be 
  Next...
  
  For those of you who only make 
  purchases on eBay and are wondering what the big hoo-ha about fee 
  increases for sellers is all about, be forewarned: Given its past 
  behaviour, it's only a matter of time before eBay starts 
  applying BUYER'S premiums/fees to its auctions as well. Then you'll 
  have something to squawk about, too (and rightly so)...
   
  Dave
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Re: [MOPO] eBay Buyers Will Be Next...

[Craig Goebel]

... "you'll [buyers'll] have something to squawk about" ... WE 
are already squawking!  And have no expectation that things'll get better 
on ebay - Craig 

  - Original Message - 
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  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 4:23 
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  Subject: [MOPO] eBay Buyers Will Be 
  Next...
  
  For those of you who only make 
  purchases on eBay and are wondering what the big hoo-ha about fee 
  increases for sellers is all about, be forewarned: Given its past behaviour, 
  it's only a matter of time before eBay starts applying BUYER'S 
  premiums/fees to its auctions as well. Then you'll have something to squawk 
  about, too (and rightly so)...
   
  Dave
  Posteropolis
  www.posteropolis.com
   
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Re: [MOPO] EBAY Sucks

[Craig Goebel]

Ebay doesn't suck per se, those who do suck BIG TIME 
are the people who spend their time trying to circumvent and often are 
successfully circumventing the rules that are designed to ensure fairness 
between sellers and buyers and their forum ebay. 
 
How many times have I decried here the 
unmitigated gall of many sellers - not most poster dealers - who elevate 
their shipping and handling and insurance fees possibly to "compensate" for ebay 
fees, which is purely evasion. Again I state that these costs are paid by 
the buyers to be held in trust by the sellers to pay for getting the item safely 
to the buyers - no more no less. 
 
Because they do not represent revenue, in fairness no 
fees should be exacted on these payments. But when they DO provide revenue and 
the listing and selling prices are low to further evade fees, then the 
market is being skewed. 
 
Instead of complaining the fair dealers should be joining 
forces with ebay to stamp out the abuses of the bad sellers and then fee 
increases would not be implemented to try to fix a problem that cannot be fixed 
by jacking fees.
 
Maybe the survey Bruce is doing now about getting off ebay 
together with this problem will encourage him and other dealers to make the MOPO 
auction site work. 
 
There needs to be a mart because buyers will not have the time 
to go from seller's site to site and then open up a series of portals to bid. 
Too much work.
 
I have a batch of bids on the special auctions and look 
forward to getting some good pieces (maybe).
 
Craig, Vancouver
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  channinglylethomson 
  
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 4:57 
  PM
  Subject: [MOPO] EBAY Sucks
  In case you haven't checked your EBAY messages today, they just 
  raised listing fees and final value fees for EBAY store owners.  Some 
  of the listing fees have gone up by 500%.  Hefty increases for the 
  final value fees as well.  Also, I have been having items pulled down 
  by EBAY over the weekend due to what they consider high shipping 
  charges.  Basically, insurance on a $2,500. poster is pretty 
  expensive through USPS but EBAY just sees a big dollar amount for 
  shipping.  Naturally, they want to make sure they don't loose any 
  sales fees that might apply to shipping charges so they're making a big 
  stink about it.  One way to avert this problem is to break out your 
  shipping charge and your insurance charge.  It's a hassle and feels 
  like a waste of time to someone like me but I can't be spending all my 
  time playing catch-up with items EBAY has thrown off of my store.  
  Also, I mentioned to them that I had over 1000 feedbacks and zero 
  negatives and had been selling on EBAY for 10 years and wanted that taken 
  into consideration before removing listings without my approval.  
  They told me that made no difference and they didn't take those kinds of 
  things into consideration so as to be fair to everyone.  
  Ughh!Channing Thomson in San 
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Re: [MOPO] EBAY AND EXCESSIVE SHIPPING CHARGES

[Craig Goebel]

JR makes many good comments. 
 
I think there are two lessons to be learned AND put into 
practice from them. 
 
One is the actual use of fact based negative feedback, 
impediments to which are ebay's limit of 80 characters for an entry and the 
obsessive desire to maintain as high a rating as possible, so people who offend 
should be held to account. I have 2 negatives - one a mistaken identity and 
another a retaliation for a fact based negative. If I felt more comfortable that 
sellers take the time to look at what a negative is about and not be dismissive 
(wary is ok), then I might be more inclined to go public with my 
dissatisfaction. Of course sellers' monitoring vast numbers of items for buyers' 
feedback is not possible. Buyers and sellers must make better use of the program 
by being less afraid of the consequences. 
 
The second is that different business models are possible for 
ebay and online sales, but if sellers are going to move from consolidating 
standard costs of selling as overhead, which are included in the price of the 
item at its minimum / start, then they should describe what and how much those 
extras are in shipping and handling, etc. For instance, transportation costs to 
get to the PO or courier can easily be determined as can wages, so these would 
go into the price, but with the cost of oil rising, the extra gas cost can 
justifiably be taken out of fixed costs and put into a special handling charge, 
so buyers and ebay can see it and it can be visibly removed if the costs go 
down. Recently a seller admitted that he routinely added extra unidentified 
costs into shipping to recoup paypal charges, even though this is interdicted. 
He agreed to give me an equivalent discount - free shipping - on my next 
purchase. Needless to state all he will get IS one more buy from 
me.
 
I try to patronize sellers who make an effort to set accurate 
charges and whose fare is well described. 
 
I suppose I just have to take - finally - the next step of 
being brave about negative feedback.
 
Craig, Vancouver

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  JR 
  To: Craig Goebel ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:52 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] EBAY AND EXCESSIVE 
  SHIPPING CHARGES
  
  I agree with what Craig and others have been saying about pumped-up 
  "shipping and handling" charges that some sellers implement. But I'd like to 
  point out a couple of  things:
   
  1) This is a common practice for non-eBay mail-order companies and has 
  been for decades. How many times have you seen the TV ad where they're going 
  to send you a "$75 dollar value for ONLY $9.95" and you look at the screen and 
  it says "$9.95 plus shipping & handling" and when you place the order you 
  discover that shipping and handing is $19.95 or more? Using the shipping and 
  handling charge as a way to offer absurdly low retail prices and still end up 
  getting paid closer to a genuine retail price is a 
  common practice,even with the big brand-name catalogs -- let's not 
  pretend it's just an eBay issue. It's just that more and more of those sellers 
  who have been doing regular mail-order and charging excessive 
  shipping charges have now moved to doing business on eBay and have 
  brought their decades-old techniques with them.
   
  2) In a way, eBay encourages this kind of thing by prohibiting sellers 
  from charging users who pay with PayPal or Credit Cards a processing fee. The 
  seller is  charged the processing fee -- it is a cost of doing 
  business -- but they are not allowed to pass it on to the customers, at least 
  not up front and honestly. They can't add it to the starting bid, because on 
  all this low-cost stuff that makes their starting bids non-competitive with 
  the 99-cent starting bids of their rivals on eBay. So, the only place left for 
  them to recoup genuine cost-of-business expenses is by pumping up the 
  "shipping and handling" charge. Note the "handling" term attached to "shipping 
  and handling" -- that very clearly means they are not claiming that 
  all of the charge will be spent on the actual shipping cost, but some of it is 
  also for covering "handling" -- a code word for "our cost of doing business 
  and making the profit we feel we need to make to stay in business."
   
  So, pumped-up shipping and handling charges are nothing new and there's 
  really nothing that eBay is going to be able to do about it, despite their 
  public posturing. The only thing a buyer can do is be a smart shopper and 
  check out various sellers and compare what their "shipping and handling" 
  charges are -- then do business with the ones who seems to be the most 
  reasonable in this area. I remember several years ago when Bruce was publicly 
  criticized because he was charging a flat $8.00 shipp

Re: [MOPO] EBAY AND EXCESSIVE SHIPPING CHARGES

[Craig Goebel]

As (mostly) a buyer on ebay and other sites, I have, on many 
occasions and more than once on this posting site, decried exactly the same 
problems noted by ebay. 
 
Sellers state that shipping and handling costs are the 
responsibility of the buyer. I regularly receive parcels on which the postal 
cost is much less than I have been charged and the materials are recycled, plus 
in the last year or so, many more sellers demand that insurance payment be made 
but there is no way to verify that it actually was bought by the seller. I'd bet 
many big volume sellers, such as for autographs and dvds, etc., don't buy 
insurance and "self-insure" by pocketing the proceeds of $1.30 per $100 over and 
over to do so.
 
Many sellers, mostly those who sell dvds and the like, refuse 
to initiate socalled discounts for multiple buys to bolster revenue even though 
ALL shipping is based on weight and volume classifications, so several 
items can often be shipped in one class - meaning there really is no discount 
but properly a number of items can be sent for set prices.
 
The position I maintain is that these funds are NOT 
profit centres for sellers, nor an extra way to defray paypal or any other 
payment processing charges; these funds are sent to the seller so the seller can 
send the item to me; in effect these funds are held in trust for the buyer for 
the purpose of shipping only and they should be accurately estimated. Now 
with oil prices being so high, fuel surcharges are made - in Canada they are 
about 10% of the postage and couriers charge this too. Since oil is unlikely to 
get cheaper, actual costs will only go up. So a buyer doesn't want to pay more 
than necessary. 
 
More than an effort to subvert the market place by avoiding 
fees and only apparently lowering the "price" of the item, the sellers who 
extract extra money are breaking trust with the buyer and should be made 
pariahs. Good for ebay, it's about time - whatever the motivation, the 
result might be of benefit to buyers.
 
Craig, Vancouver

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Movielegends 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:28 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] EBAY AND EXCESSIVE 
  SHIPPING CHARGES
  
  Channing,
  Their latest updates & detals for this policy are here:
   
  Trust & Safety: Excessive Shipping Policy Update:
  http://www2.ebay.com/aw/core/200606.shtml#2006-06-27092621
   
  Excessive Shipping Charges Policy:
  http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-shipping.html?ssPageName=CMDV:AB
  channinglylethomson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  I've 
gotten a phone call and an e-mail from EBAY today regarding their new 
policy on excessive shipping charges (gross example would be $0.99 item 
with $50. shipping). These seem to be some sort of group call/e-mail 
sent out by EBAY. I'm wondering if other EBAY dealers in MOPO are 
hearing about this new policy.Channing Thomson in SFVisit 
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Re: [MOPO] Lawsuit threatened

[Craig Goebel]

Bob, (and others) a very short and therefore imprecise lesson. 
Every person who contends against someone else's position, in order to be safe 
from a successful law suit for libel (written) or slander (oral), must be able 
to prove his/her argument with true facts from which the opinion is derived; so 
truth is a complete defence. 
 
Hollywood movie critics have qualified privilege to make 
negative comments only because the movie business is public and expects and 
encourages debate - part of the the qualified privilege is absence of 
malice. This is different than a private person or enterprize selling to the 
public.
 
This go-round is at least the second time the libel and Loce 
issue has been raised since I've been on mopo, with the same result, much worry 
and no outcome. Just be sure you're right.
 
On the issue of legal costs - in the US mostly each party 
covers its own; in the UK the winner's are recouped from the loser and in Canada 
the winner gets partial recompense - each system is designed to encourage 
settlement because of what's at stake over the damages and/or 
principle.
 
Craig, Vancouver

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bob Brooks 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 11:43 
PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Lawsuit 
  threatened
  
  Hey Steve:
   
  That's all it is, just a threat.  He 
  will NEVER, ever follow through - or else he'll have every expert in the 
  business lining up to testify about the 'product' he sells (and the loser is 
  often responsible for court costs).  
   
  If he ever is stupid enough to sue, 
  just give me a shout, and I'll be happy to testify (or write a notarized 
  letter) for you about my opinion of his business practices.
   
  By the way, I didn't just call Miramax, I talked 
  with someone who had access to the room in Miramax's office where they 
  stored some of their posters - and, surprise, surprise, they never had a 
  stamp (and none of the posters they had there had a stamp 
either).
   
  There's also someone on the list here who worked 
  at the printers (Consolidated or Continental, I always mix those two 
  up) at the time the poster was printed - and he has confirmed (on Mopo, I 
  believe) that the stamped Pulp Fictions WEREN'T from the run they 
  printed...  Of course, Loce gets around this fact by claiming that the 
  posters were printed by NSS.
   
  And, here's another thing, if you say you 
  'believe' something - that's not the same as saying you 'know' 
  something.  And, as long as you said it was your opinion, I doubt that 
  you are liable (even if what you said was wrong, which I would doubt).  
  And, you also can't be sued for calling someone an 'asshole' or a 'douche bag' 
  - both of which he is in spades.
   
  Cheers,Bob
   
  PS.  Watch out, the new reprints of that 
  poster have fixed the white specks (check Dan's site, I'm sure he has a list 
  of other things to look for).
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
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To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 11:06 
PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Lawsuit 
threatened
Hello all,I am hoping that someone can give me some 
advice.  I recently mentioned Thomas Loce and that I believed he is 
selling Pulp Fiction Lucky Strikes reprints, because he stands behind his 
claim that the "Miramax Stamp" is the proof of a guaranteed original, and 
even proposed that I call Miramax to prove it.  Personally I have read 
enough to know that this is not the case, so I posted on MOPO that both he 
and another seller on eBay, postergalleries, are knowingly selling 
reprints.  It is obvious in the case of postergalleries, as he outright 
refuses to send a detail picture of the area in Uma's cleavage, which on at 
least every reprint that I've bought (no less than six) have the tell-tale 
white flecks which are the result of a printing flaw in the 
reprints.Anyway, Thomas has now threatened me with a libel lawsuit, 
and was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction on how to 
handle this.  I am simply trying to educate the community about known 
reprint resellers (not necessarily the ones who print them), as this is a 
part of the hobby that is nothing short of fraud, and since eBay does not 
know how to handle it (as some of these people are Power Sellers, and eBay 
won't take action against the hand that feeds it), I am addressing it in an 
open forum.I am more than happy to retract my statements if he can 
prove that he is selling originals.Thoughts?Best 
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Re: [MOPO] Blade Runner "Final Cut" Arrives in Theaters 2007

[Craig Goebel]

I suppose there'll be at least 3 more versions of the poster 
all likely to be bootlegged. Fraudbusters will have a field day too looking for 
the offline printing and fuzzy gaus. I locked up my originals - rolled and 
folded years ago - and Dario has done great backing, but one wonders about the 
taint of replicant posters. If only they'd die off in 6 
years!  Craig

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:46 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] Blade Runner "Final Cut" 
  Arrives in Theaters 2007
  From Variety, below.What's confusing is a DVD 
  "Director's Cut" -- the 1992 re-tooled issue WITHOUT Harrison Ford's 1982 
  voice-over -- arrives in stores this September.The "true final" cut -- 
  which director Ridley Scott says represents his original version -- 
  under-no-rush conditions -- gets a box office release next year (followed 
  by yet another DVD issue with all three versions of Blade Runner).  
  Included is an "international version" previously unseen in the 
  USA.-koose.=VARIETY MAGAZINEMAY 
  26, 2006Blade Runner Final Cut is ComingWarner Home Video has 
  disentangled the rights issues for Blade Runner to pave the way for a 
  September reissue of the remastered "Director's Cut" version, followed by 
  a theatrical release of a version promised to be truly Ridley Scott's 
  final cut.Variety says that Warner's rights to Blade Runner lapsed a 
  year ago, but the studio has since negotiated a long-term 
  license.The film, now considered a sci-fi classic, has had a troubled 
  history from the start: When Scott ran overbudget, completion bond 
  guarantors took control of it and made substantial changes before its 1982 
  theatrical release, adding a voiceover and happy ending.That 
  version was replaced by the much better-received director's cut in 1992, 
  but Scott has long been unhappy with it, complaining that he was rushed 
  and unable to give it proper attention.The helmer started working on 
  the final cut version in 2000, but that project was shelved by Warner soon 
  after, apparently because the studio couldn't come to terms with Jerry 
  Perenchio over rights issues.The trade adds that the restored 
  "Director's Cut" will debut on home video in September, and remain on sale 
  for four months only, after which time it will be placed on 
  moratorium."Blade Runner: Final Cut" will arrive in 2007 for a limited 
  25th anniversary theatrical run, followed by a special edition DVD with 
  the three previous versions offered as alternate viewing:  Besides 
  the original theatrical version and director's cut, the expanded 
  international theatrical cut will be included. The set will also contain 
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Re: [MOPO] illiteracy and control

[Craig Goebel]

hi Joe - I remember that movie - quite disturbing.  How 
about the Lord of the Flies - Goldings' novel spoke truth and the first movie 
visualised it well. 
 
Of course anti-social behaviour has been a facet of society 
forever. The worst of it is the waste of young humanity that is escalated by not 
being able to get the most vulnerable and the most 
capable interested in each other - the former to accept and the 
latter to give help. 
 
A friend of mine has a 19 year old son whose last 10 
years have been spent playing video games, failing at school, getting fired from 
or quitting labour jobs, smoking dope and worse, avoiding responsibility and 
eye-contact, hating his parents and stealing and trashing their cars and finally 
pleading guilty to robbing a 12 year old behind a convenience store. That's a 
waste and he KNOWS, but doesn't seem connected enough to his family or 
society to care what happens. 
 
There was a recent segment on 60 Minutes about the male-female 
imbalance in China due to the one child policy producing more males than 
females. Societies in which there is even some imbalance say 51+/ 49- leads to 
fewer men married and more lawlessness as they form gangs outside civil society. 
There are so many more unmarriagable men in China - already at a plurality of 
nearly 20 million men! - 53/47 or so - that in the face of so much undirected 
and misdirected energy - producing lawlessness, 
the maintenance of all civil society is in doubt. That's 
why the communist repression will actually be needed to 
keep their society intact - that and massive induction into the armed 
services and a war to thin the ranks - I hope not. 
 
On the other hand there is a positive potential - small though 
it might be - to there being single men. The ancient Norse used 
"unattached" men as their shock troops - berserkers. Michael Crichton in 
The Andromeda Strain posed the "odd man" protocol - there was an 
unmarried male who was part of the group sent to quell the outbreak - which 
premised that only he would have enough dispassion (disconnectedness from the 
group with appreciation of what had to be done for the greater good which itself 
is an abstract) to terminate the group if required to solve the problem, 
because he had nothing outside himself to lose.
 
We need to reach out over and over - this is not an abstract problem.
 
Craig
 
- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Joseph 
  Bonelli 
  To: Craig Goebel 
  Cc: MOPO 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:43 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] illeteracy and mind 
  control
  
  Hi, Craig, from Joe Bonelli.
  You are so correct.
  And it is most interesting that the age group you refer to is just that 
  one that can be so easily controlled by appealing to that sense of "power" 
  that those games, etc., give them.
  A perfect illustration is Louis Malle's chilling film "Lacombe, Lucien," 
  at last released on dvd.  It is about a hulky and rather slow French 
  teenager who finds "importance" as a collaborater during World War II.  
  Superb and disturbing viewing-- and more pertinent than ever. 
   
  Joe B
  Craig Goebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  



Interesting comments about the loss of reading skills - 
even as recreation, as its use in schools is diminishing; only 
home-based, parent-endorsed and exemplified reading of books and newspapers 
might hold back the erosion of these skills or even the desire to attend to 
them minimally. 
 
Literacy - mostly in males - is falling off dramatically - 
as an entire group from 6 to 16 years has serially for nearly 20 
years spent its time slouching, actually and intellectually, 
through mindnumbing - usually violent - video games - parental efforts and 
exasperation notwithstanding. These are the new wasted generations. And 
with the need for these people to support the bigger group of retiring baby 
boomers, the whole civic compact could be in fraught sooner than we think. 

 
Friend is not spelled freind - has everyone just been 
"ironic" about this? 
 
Craig

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Vaughn K. 
  Mann 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 6:42 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] DEAR OLD OLD OLD 
  OLD FREINDS and all the Ships at Sea!!!
  
  "Good evening, Mr. and Mrs. Nawth Americur and all the ships at 
sea"?.whoops, think I plagiarized 
  that!Ok, I want to play! who remember the announcer 
  that usually began his 1/2 with, ""Ah, there's good 
  news tonight!"  even if there wasn't.you have to dig 
  deep for this one.VaughnAt 09:24 
  AM 5/16/2006 -0400, Dave Rosen wrote:
  JR: Agree with what you 
say. My real

Re: [MOPO] How do you think this poster was held in place?

[Craig Goebel]

I'VE DEALT SEVERAL TIMES W INTERGALACTIC TRADING CO FOR POSTERS AND 
ARTEFACTS AND ALL HAS GONE WELL. POSTERS WERE WELL PACKED. CRAIG

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Planetbiz 

  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 4:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] How do you think this 
  poster was held in place?
  
  
  Just heard from 
  seller.  They are magnets..  I guess shaped like Star Trek Enterprise..
   
  Thanks 
  goodness..
   
  Bill
   
   
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  Planetbiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 6:53 
  PMTo: 'MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU'Subject: How do you think this poster was 
  held in place?
   
  Take a look at this 
  link to an ebay auction.  It looks to me like the seller held the poster 
  in place with duct tape but I can’t be sure.  I sent a message but 
  haven’t received a response.  What do you think?  By the way, he’s 
  got lots of posters listed with pics using this type of 
  mounting.
   
  Bill
   
  http://tinyurl.com/zo556
   
  or
   
  http://cgi.ebay.com/1-Sheet-Movie-Poster-1998-LOST-IN-SPACE-Advance_W0QQitemZ9113727237QQcategoryZ1419QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
   
   
   
   
   
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Re: [MOPO] I have just seen MISSION IMPOSSIBLE III

[Craig Goebel]

Seems the Austin Chronicle review left a little da Vinci-like 
code for the cognescenti - if you get the code it's stating that 
everything in the movie is done twice-over! So M:I:III is twice as long as it 
needs to be? How boring. Craig

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  MISSION IMPOSSIBLE III
  Not in Austin - doing bonkers business, and reviewed in the 
  lefty  Austin Chronicle with 3.5 STARS.  Savlov writes "It's all 
  poppycock,  of course, but it's done with such vim and vigor and both 
  narrative  and visual flair that you care not a jot. Summer has 
  arrived."Kirby McDanielwww.movieart.netOn May 7, 2006, at 
  1:05 PM, channinglylethomson wrote:> Sunday, 5/7/2006 (11:04 AM 
  PT)>> Oh Adrian -- please, say it isn't so.  The film has 
  opened to  > lukewarm reviews in the US and has underperformed at 
  the box  > office.   My take is that the American public 
  is just sick to death  > of Tom Cruise.  Maybe his nutty, 
  Scientology-fed antics haven't  > gotten as much publicity 
  overseas but the film seems to be doing   > very well in the 
  foreign market.  Here's the latest news flash on  > the 
  disappointing weekend boxoffice of MISSION IMPOSSIBLE III (as  > 
  of 14 minutes ago on the Reuters New Service):>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060507/en_nm/leisure_boxoffice_dc_3>> 
  Channing Thomson in San Francisco>> P.S.  Just because I 
  didn't want to give that creepy thespian a  > nickel of my money, 
  I personally skipped the film at the theatre  > and immediately 
  put it into my Netflix queue for when it comes out  > on 
  DVD.  By the way, Adrian, the parts I saw that take place in  
  > Shanghai did look kind of cool!   :)>> On May 
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Re: [MOPO] The Graduate

[Craig Goebel]

I DUNNO BRUCE - A QUICK LOOK AT IMDB SHOWS BUCK'S ECLECTIC, 
INTERESTING WRITTEN OUTPUT OVER 30 YEARS - SOME OF WHICH ARE - 


  To Die 
  For (1995) (screenplay)
  The Nude Bomb (1980) 
  (characters) 
  A Star Is Born (1976) 
  (uncredited) 
  The Day of the Dolphin 
  (1973) 
  What's Up, Doc? (1972) 
  (screenplay) 
  The Owl and the 
  Pussycat (1970) 
  Catch-22 (1970) 
  (screenplay) 
  Candy 
  (1968) (screenplay)  
  The Graduate 
(1967)
 
MEDIOCRE? THEN WHOSE ISN'T BY THAT MEASURE? SEVERAL GOODS 
POSTERS IN THAT LIST TOO.
 
I.A.L. Diamond, Ben Hecht, Ring Lardner Jr. - THREE OF THE 
BEST OF THE OLD SCHOOL - ALL HAD ONE OR TWO FINE EFFORTS AND MORE ROUTINE FARE 
TOO.
 
CRAIG

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  Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Graduate
  Marty Davis is right (as usual) that the movie The Graduate was 
  far better than the source novel. But the move DID (as Marty points out) 
  lift a huge amount of the great lines and several excellent scenes 
  directly from the book. I agree that Mike Nichols and the actors made all 
  the difference (a pretty good book became a masterpiece of a movie), but 
  it is a complete joke that Buck Henry and Calder Willingham got an Academy 
  Award nomination for their "screenplay", when they mostly just photocopied 
  pages of the novel and added bits and pieces to them!It is 
  especially sad that the writer of the book, Charles Webb, was apparently a 
  real-life Benjamin Braddock (he was 28 when the book was published), but 
  with even more troubles, and after one more far stranger book, The 
  Marriage of a Young Stockbroker in 1971 (it is the Citizen Kane of 
  voyeurism movies!), he vanished into obscurity and I believe he soon was 
  working as a clerk in a bookshop, while Buck Henry parlayed his 
  photocopying success with The Graduate into a long mediocre career as both 
  a screenwriter and an actor (Calder Willingham had previously been 
  credited for the magnificent screenplay for Paths of Glory and screenplay 
  for the enjoyable The Vikings, among others, but his post-Graduate career 
  was pretty mediocre as 
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Re: [MOPO] Films Better Than the Books?

[Craig Goebel]

Marty's right, The Graduate was a novel before the 
movie.
 
Love Story was certainly a novel before the movie. Recall the 
rain of negative criticism on Eric Segal - his book was lachrymose and 
obtuse - but it brought us Ali - also in Goodbye, Columbus, 1969. And in the 
early 70s those movie unleashed Richard Benjamin in a whole series of excellent, 
angst-ridden movies like The Marriage of a Young Stockbroker, The Steagle, 
Portnoy's Complaint, Diary of a Mad Housewife; plus Charles Grodin in 
Heartbreak Kid, and Richard Dreyfuss in The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz, 
many of which were adapted from novels. 
 
True Grit was a novel by Charles Portis that was barely read - 
I read a library edition - and would never have been filmed but for the 
Duke, whose performance was staggeringly adept and transcended the source 
material. Those who huffed that his Oscar was a (dubious) lifetime 
achievement award just never appreciated that performance or his work anyway. 
The startled reaction, like being slapped, when called a "one-eyed fat man" 
by Lucky Ned Pepper (Robert Duvall) and his challenge "well fill your hands, you 
sonofa bitch" - pure theatricality - who'd have thought. Even better was using 
Ned's words in his goodbye to Mattie. Worth the price of admission then and 
still fun to see today. 
 
Some good posters too: Columbus and Marriage (the alternate 
with Richard and the ineffably beautiful Joanna Shimkus drapped in a towel 
running away) certainly. True Grit regular not so much with the floating heads 
which creep me out, but there's another image on the quad that's 
iconic.
 
Craig

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  Books?
  That would make Angelica Huston Jesus' sister.
  
  K.
  
  
  On May 6, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Joseph Bonelli wrote:
  
<"Do any of you think that the movie THE BIBLE was better than the 
book?">
 
Are you kidding, Kirby??  With John Huston as the Deity of COURSE 
the movie was better!!
 
Joe BKirby McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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  Oz" is better > than the book? Or have none of you read 
  it?>> Were "The Graduate" and "Love Story" films before 
  books or the > other way around? Both followed the stories so 
  closely that it was > almost like reading the movie scripts instead 
  of the novels.>>> 
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Re: [MOPO] Films better than the books?

[Craig Goebel]

Combining both matters -
 
Jacob Two-Two Meets the Hooded Fang 1978, from the story by 
the late, great Mordecai Richler both fine efforts, with Alex Karras as the 
Hooded Fang and then remade, poorly, in 1999, perhaps because the 
Hooded Fang was performed (?) by Gary Busey!
 
How about novels considered unfilmable but made into films? 
Here are some of my favorites.
 
 Novel    
            
            Movie    
                
                
            Posters
Candy   cheeky fun cringe-inducing 
but can't look away     busy, fun
Catch 
22sardonic, HILARIOUS  cutdown, 
to mildly ironic            
        too hairy
The 
Magus cerebral, 
moralisticdull, 
sanctimonious            
            
 colorful
Myra Breckinridge  unreadable, 
vulgar cringe-inducingly awful    
Raquel!
Seven Minutes    
prurient            
            
 dull, 
overwrought   
too wordy
Slaughterhouse 5effervescent, 
pointed disturbing, 
disjointed   bit 
dull
Steppenwolf   portentousboring 
too cool
 
The two Candy posters are fine and I am looking for a unique 
Argentine version.
The better Catch 22 is the French poster of Yossarian caught on the Catch 
22 rather than the naked Yossarian with his medals.
The Magus has the small pix and a good color scheme.
Myra has Raquel - 'nuff said.
7M had Edy Williams and didn't exploit her - how shortsighted was 
that.
S5 has a good pictorial theme, but the black wavy lines are a bit 
distracting.
Steppenwolf is psychedelic fun.
 
 
 
Craig
 

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  Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 5:27 PM
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  books?
  At 05:07 PM 5/5/06 -0700, David Kusumoto wrote:>** More 
  than "Star Wars," Spielberg's "Jaws" -- for better or worse -- began 
  >the concept of opening "wide" (gasp, 400 theaters vs. today's 4,000 
  >screens!) -- hastening the demise of single-screen movie-houses and 
  the >"blockbuster" mentality that nearly buried Hollywood in the late 
  1970s.Since Star Wars opened on 32 screens, it had quite little to 
  do with the concept of "opening wide".  Prior to the 1970s, there 
  were lots of "wide" openings.  In fact, one of the things that killed 
  true Technicolor and resulted in the dismantling of the old imbubition 
  machines is that studios stopped doing wide openings.  They did 
  platform releases, regional rollouts and roadshows.  The old machines 
  weren't economical for striking that few prints.  It wasn't until a 
  few years into the '80s, I believe, that the studios really started trying 
  to do big wide releases, to the point that they were taking out trade 
  ads announcing just how wide they were 
  opening.Craig.~Craig 
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Re: [MOPO] Do you receive your own MOPO messages?

[Craig Goebel]

unless i copy the email to myself i don't get my posts - 
Craig

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  MOPO messages?
  
  
  
  I posted a message 
  last night and received a confirmation for the List server.  However, I 
  never received the message itself.  It was concerning contacting Brian 
  Lind.  Are we supposed to get a copy of our own messages?  Did 
  anyone receive it?  
   
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Re: [MOPO] Poster grading

[Craig Goebel]

One question that comes to mind is why have a system at all 
when Bruce has essentially abandoned a grading system for describing the flaws 
and providing one scalable scan of the front only (!), leaving the buyer 
to imagine the back (and he can get 3X and more for Modesty Blaise than anyone 
else). 
 
Narrative truth and visual proof, then verification on 
receipt, giving enough comfort to patronize the seller again, more than a scale, 
are what attract a buyer. A system can augment, but cannot substitute for, 
this set of circumstances.
 
Craig, Vancouver

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  I took from many sources on grading and put a guide on ebay 
  about posters to make it less subjective i used stuff found off dave 
  liberman's site see what you thinkhttp://reviews.ebay.com/Selling-posters-How-should-i-grade-my-poster-listing_W0QQugidZ100756376please 
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Re: [MOPO] Oscars 2006

[Craig Goebel]

Title: Message



THE BEST MOVIE OF THE YEAR BAR NONE - AND WITH A MESSAGE MADE 
GOOD AND PROPER - WAS "A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE" (SCANDALOUSLY UNNOMINATED FOR ANY 
MAJOR AWARD: WILLIAM HURT NOTWITHSTANDING). DAVID CRONENBERG'S NOIR THRILLER 
ABOUT A MAN'S PAST BECOMING HIS FUTURE AND WHICH POINTEDLY IS BEYOND HIS CONTROL 
IS HYPER, SCARY, VIOLENT AND DETERMINEDLY HUMANISTIC;  APPARENTLY, 
DESPITE ITS UNFLINCHING VISION IT WAS NOT UNFORGETTABLE TO THE WIDER 
ACADEMY!
 
FURTHER, IT IS ARGUABLY THE FINEST MOVIE MADE ABOUT THE 
CONTEMPORARY LIFE (OF A MAN) IN AT LEAST THE LAST 10 YEARS. JUST LOOK THRU 
THE TOP 100 MOVIES PER YEAR ON THE IMDB FOR SOMETHING MORE TELLING. 

 
CRAIG

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:15 
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  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Oscars 2006
  
  What would you say was the best message 
  movie of the year?  
  

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On Behalf Of JRSent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:26 
AMTo: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUSubject: 
Re: [MOPO] Oscars 2006

The Oscars were distributed with 
politically-correct diversity this year, spread around the field, except: 
 A total snub for what I considered by far the "most important" of the 
message movies, GOOD NIGHT AND GOOD LUCK. 
 
I mean, making observations about tolerance and 
racial fears is all good and well, but is a film that handles it as 
gently as CRASH did likely to change this most basic aspect of human 
nature? Is a movie about gay sheepherders (not cowboys) going to alter 
people's gut-level reaction to non-traditional sexual preference? No, 
probably not much... but a film about the 
fanaticism and unconstitutional persecution of people during the McCarthy 
era *could* make a difference in this country's current dalliance with 
something all too similar in our "war on terrorism" if enough people 
saw it -- and an Oscar might have caused some more folks to give 
it a look. Whereas CRASH, the lightweight of the message films this year, 
isn't even at the theaters anymore and future viewings will be on DVD 
(exactly the thing the Academy was bitching about all night 
long).
 
So, do as I say for the Academy this year, 
don't do as I do.
 
And don't even get me started about giving a 
cleaned-up gangsta rap song the Award for Best Song of the 
Year.
 
Best song of the year? Yo' 
momma...!
 
-- JR
 
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Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:31
Subject: [MOPO] Oscars 2006

And the Winners are...
 
Best 
PictureWinner: Crash Brokeback MountainGood Night and Good LuckMunichCapote
 


Best Director 
Winner: Ang Lee - 
Brokeback 
MountainSteven Spielberg - 
Munich Paul Haggis - 
CrashBennett Miller - 
CapoteGeorge Clooney - 
Good Night and Good Luck
 


Best 
ActorWinner: Philip Seymour Hoffman - 
CapoteDavid Strathairn - Good Night and Good LuckHeath Ledger - Brokeback 
Mountain Joaquin Phoenix - 
Walk the LineTerrence 
Howard - Hustle and Flow
 


Best 
ActressWinner: Reese Witherspoon - Walk the LineDame Judi 
Dench - Mrs Henderson PresentsFelicity Huffman - TransamericaCharlize Theron - North CountryKeira Knightley - Pride and Prejudice
 


Best Supporting 
ActorWinner: George Clooney - SyrianaJake Gyllenhaal - Brokeback 
MountainPaul Giamatti - Cinderella ManMatt Dillon - 
CrashWilliam Hurt - 
A History of Violence
 


Best Supporting 
ActressWinner: Rachel Weisz - The Constant GardenerMichelle Williams - Brokeback 
MountainFrances McDormand - North CountryAmy Adams - 
JunebugCatherine Keener - Capote
 


Best Documentary Feature 
Winner: March of the PenguinsDarwin's NightmareEnron: The Smartest Guys in the Room MurderballStreet 
Fight
 


Best Foreign Language Film 
Winner: Tsotsi (South Africa) Don't 
Tell (Italy) Joyeux Noel (France) Paradise Now 
(Palestinian territories) Sophie Scholl - The Final Days(Germany)
 


Best Film 
EditingWinner: Crash Cinerella 
Man The Constant Gardener 
Munich Walk the Line
 
Best Cinematography 
Winner: Memoirs of a GeishaBatman BeginsBrokeback 
MountainGood Night and Good LuckThe 
New World
 


Best Adapted 
ScreenplayWinner: Brokeback 
Mountain CapoteThe Constant GardenerA History of Violence 
Munich
 
Best Original Screenplay 
Winner: CrashGood Night and Good LuckMatch PointThe Squid and 
the WhaleSyriana
 


Best Visual 
EffectsWinner: King KongThe Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, 

Re: [MOPO] the extra folds

[Craig Goebel]

LIVE-AND-LEARN; ASK-AND-LEARN; COLLECT-AND-LEARN! THANKS FOR 
THE TUTELAGE FROM ALL. CRAIG

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  To: Craig Goebel ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:14 
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  Subject: Re: [MOPO] the extra folds
  
  
  Craig,
   
  I wonder, how long have you been collecting? It is well 
  known, and well-documented, going back forever, that the folding of inserts 
  and half-sheets by the National Screen Service (NSS) for distribution to the 
  theaters was, indeed, standard procedure until the mid-1970's -- 
  just as it was for one sheets. The reason most of the inserts and 
  half-sheets were folded when the larger 30x40s were not is *because* they were 
  smaller -- they could be folded and placed in the same size envelopes they 
  used to sent the folded one-sheets to the theaters. Often they were included 
  in the same envelope with the folded one-sheets. The reason the 30x40's and 
  larger were not usually folded is that they could not be practically folded 
  small enough to fit in the envelopes without being ruined and so they 
  were usually shipped in a mailing tube. Most of the heavy-paper 30x40s 
  and 40x60s were intended for Drive-In theaters, which often had exposed, 
  outside display areas -- and that is why they were on heavier paper... 
  because they were going to be exposed more to the weather than regular 
  thin-paper posters.
   
  I've been collecting posters for over 40 years, and inserts 
  and half-sheets were almost always found folded, except for the few that 
  didn't get sent out by the NSS and ended up getting in collectors and dealers 
  hands directly from the warehouses. Also, a few theaters paid extra to have 
  their posters sent unfolded -- including the one sheets -- so you could 
  sometimes come across an unfolded insert or half-sheet that way. But not 
  usually.
   
  Now, once you got into the late 70's and early 80's it 
  became much more common for posters to be shipped rolled in tubes, including 
  the one-sheets, inserts and half-sheets (which were fading away by that time 
  anyway).
   
  Many consider the "factory folds" to be small defects, even 
  if it was standard procedure. Obviously, a genuine vintage poster which 
  was never folded is more desirable than one which was. But since most were 
  folded, many collectors do not consider normal factory folds to be a 
  defect. I certainly don't.
   
  But to suggest that most vintage inserts and half-sheets 
  were not normally folded as standard practice when they were originally issued 
  by the NSS through the 1960's is just absurd. They most definitely were. 
  The NSS printing plants had mechanical folding machines to do the 
  job -- which is why you will find that the fold lines are almost always 
  exactly in the same place on an insert or half sheet, even if you compare 
  posters that were produced many years or even decades apart.
   
  Now, sometimes you will find a poster (of any size) that has 
  an extra fold or two. This usually happened when a poster was quickly and 
  carelessly re-folded by someone down the line... perhaps the guy at the 
  theater when he took it down to send it back to NSS or put it on a shelf... 
  perhaps by  a careless collector (unlikely that a professional 
  dealer would ever have introduced an extra fold).
   
  But rest assured that the normal factory folds found on 
  vintage inserts and half-sheets were put there by the NSS as part of their 
  standard procedure when the posters were originally printed and 
  distributed.
   
  -- JR
   
   
  - Original Message - 
  From: Craig Goebel 
  
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:38
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] the extra folds
  
  TWO THINGS ABOUT WHICH I'M NOT ENTIRELY 
  COMFORTABLE ARE DEALERS' STATEMENTS TO THE EFFECT THAT FOLDING INSERTS 
  AND 1/2 SHEETS WAS "STANDARD" AND THE READY ACCEPTANCE  BY BUYERS OF 
  THAT ALLEGATION AS PROOF OF THE TRUTH OF THE FACT ALLEGED WITHOUT 
  SUBSTANTIATION. 
   
  IT SEEMS TO ME THE HEAVY GAUGE PAPER MILITATES 
  AGAINST THE FACT THAT THEY WERE FOLDED AT THE PRINTERS. SO DOES THE FACT THAT 
  SO FEW OF THE SAME GAUGE 30X40 AND 40X60 POSTERS ARE FOLDED. (I HAVE AROUND 20 
  OF THE 30X40 AND 40X60 POSTERS AND NONE ARE FOLDED.) HOW DID THEY GET SENT 
  AROUND THEATRES UNFOLDED AND SMALLER POSTERS DID NOT, WHEN THE LATTER 
  COULD HAVE FIT ROLLED IN THE SAME CONTAINERS AS THE BIG ONES? 
   
  BUT THEY MUST HAVE BEEN FOLDED BY SOMEONE, SO MANY ARE IN 
  THAT CONDITION. I WONDER WHETHER MOST INSERTS AND HSs HAVE 
  NOT JUST BEEN FOLDED BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD THEM STORED WITH LESS CARE 
  FOR THE RESULTS OF DOING SO OR BY COLLECTORS LOOKING TO SAVE STORAGE 
  SPACE. 
   
  CERTAINLY THESE FOLDS ARE DEFECTS - "STANDARD" OR 
  NOT.
   
  CRAIG, VANCOUVER
  
- Original Me

Re: [MOPO] the extra folds

[Craig Goebel]

TWO THINGS ABOUT WHICH I'M NOT ENTIRELY 
COMFORTABLE ARE DEALERS' STATEMENTS TO THE EFFECT THAT FOLDING INSERTS AND 
1/2 SHEETS WAS "STANDARD" AND THE READY ACCEPTANCE  BY BUYERS OF THAT 
ALLEGATION AS PROOF OF THE TRUTH OF THE FACT ALLEGED WITHOUT SUBSTANTIATION. 

 
IT SEEMS TO ME THE HEAVY GAUGE PAPER MILITATES 
AGAINST THE FACT THAT THEY WERE FOLDED AT THE PRINTERS. SO DOES THE FACT THAT SO 
FEW OF THE SAME GAUGE 30X40 AND 40X60 POSTERS ARE FOLDED. (I HAVE AROUND 20 OF 
THE 30X40 AND 40X60 POSTERS AND NONE ARE FOLDED.) HOW DID THEY GET SENT AROUND 
THEATRES UNFOLDED AND SMALLER POSTERS DID NOT, WHEN THE LATTER COULD HAVE 
FIT ROLLED IN THE SAME CONTAINERS AS THE BIG ONES? 
 
BUT THEY MUST HAVE BEEN FOLDED BY SOMEONE, SO MANY ARE IN THAT 
CONDITION. I WONDER WHETHER MOST INSERTS AND HSs HAVE NOT 
JUST BEEN FOLDED BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD THEM STORED WITH LESS CARE FOR THE 
RESULTS OF DOING SO OR BY COLLECTORS LOOKING TO SAVE STORAGE 
SPACE. 
 
CERTAINLY THESE FOLDS ARE DEFECTS - "STANDARD" OR 
NOT.
 
CRAIG, VANCOUVER

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Michael B 
  
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:14 
  PM
  Subject: [MOPO] the extra folds
  
  i have about 4 inserts that each have two extra horizontal 
  folds.
   
  isn't it ironic that i find it more offensive on my 10/15.00 Compulsion 
  poster, than on my $1800 Rebecca?  
   
  .and, extra folds on inserts seems to me to 
  be the biggest undisclosed defect on that size poster.  
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Re: [MOPO] Shilly me

[Craig Goebel]

What about "shill-sniping"? And "shilly-shalling"? And 
"snap-sniping"? And "snap-shilling"? Should we be afraid, be very afraid? Duke, 
Vancouver

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  JR 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 11:35 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Shill me, 
  Seymour
  
  Dario,
   
  You know, even though I think of myself as worldly-wise, you point out a 
  technique I had never even thought of.  If we postulate 
  that the seller is in on the deal, then yes, I suppose that with Private 
  auctions (where the bid history is never visible either during or after the 
  auction), it would be possible to "flush out" people's maximum bids by having 
  the shill simply bid until he is top bidder, then quickly retract or reject 
  the shill's last bid and leave the item sitting right at the real bidder's 
  maximum bid. That would be a fairly elaborate technique to orchestrate on 
  a large scale, however, and I suspect it would draw eBay's attention pretty 
  quickly if it were done hundreds of times during a single auction. Still, 
  it could happen. Another reason to snipe at the last second.
   
  Taking the logic of this idea one step further,  I suppose the 
  potential for this kind of abuse would be greater in private internet 
  auctions taking place in an non-eBay environment where there 
  was no "watchdog" behind the scenes who would ever see "something not quite 
  right here" like eBay might (I emphasize "might"). *Sigh* As Cat 
  Stevens said, baby, it's a wild world. As Ron very helpfully explained, at 
  least there are techniques you can use in a live floor auction to protect 
  yourself to some extent against shilling that simply aren't available in an 
  on-line environment.
   
  But again, this is where the sniper programs come in handy and are an 
  excellent hedge against auction manipulation. You place a maximum bid that is 
  far lower than what you are actually willing to pay during the early days of 
  the auction. If it gets trumped -- for whatever reason -- you are waiting in 
  the wings with a sniper bid that will be placed in the last seconds which 
  contains your REAL maximum bid. Since all the snipes go off at the virtually 
  same time in cyberspace where no one -- not even the seller or eBay itself -- 
  has any way of seeing what's happening in those last few seconds or 
  controlling it, trying to shill during the last few seconds would be foolish 
  and ineffective. Except in the case where all the shill is trying to do is 
  guarantee that the item doesn't sell to a genuine bidder for less than the 
  seller or consigner is willing to let it go for.
   
  In truth, I think that most of the shilling which does occur, wherever it 
  occurs, is not so much evil intent as it is trying to make sure an item sells 
  for at least the minimum amount the seller wants to let it go for. Why not use 
  a reserve then? Well, because as we've seen on this list, most people will not 
  bid on an item with a reserve. So, the only other thing a seller/consigner can 
  do is place a minimum starting bid on the item that is the true minimum amount 
  that they are willing to let the item go for. But that discourages bidding as 
  well, as so many people won't bid on an item where the minimum is close to the 
  market value -- we've seen that on MPB -- because they want to believe they 
  can snap up a great item cheap, for a super-bargain price. This is 
  not realistic thinking on the part of bidders when it comes to quality vintage 
  posters, but that doesn't stop people from thinking way -- and 
  choosing which auctions to bid on based on that idea. As Bruce realized and 
  proved so many years ago.
   
  So, you throw in massive competition from so many other sellers and you 
  end up in a situation where sellers/consigners feel they have no choice but to 
  start their items off at absurdly low minimum bids... even something as 
  insipid as a 99-cent starting bid on an original FRANKENSTEIN one-sheet. 
  But... honestly now... who is going to take a chance on that FRANKENSTEIN 
  one-sheet -- or any other valuable poster, even one worth "only" several 
  hundred dollars -- being sold for way below what it is worth just because 
  during that one 7-day period not enough people wanted it that bad... or had 
  the money that week... or saw the auction at all? 
   
  All of this can lead to "reserve shilling" where the shill is instructed 
  to get the price up to X dollars (the amount the seller/consigner is willing 
  to let the item go for) and then stop pushing and let the true 
  market take the item higher than that, if it turns out there is 
  enough interest in the item to do so.
   
  It's a crazy situation -- people shouldn't feel they have to start 
  out valuable posters at absurdly low minimum bids and so be forced to resort 
  to this kind of thing to protect their investment, but sadly, 
  that's the auction en

Re: [MOPO] Buryer Beware - paypal thwarts legitimate requests for help

[Craig Goebel]

I wish the statement that paypal operates in a manner designed 
to recompense for nondelivery in a reasonable manner was true, but such is not 
the case. 
 
I have just gone round the mulberry bush for 2 months with 
paypal trying to recoup a mere $30 for the nondelivery of a set of lobby cards 
from Philip Weiss Auctions. All the seller had to do - well after paypal's own 
time period for a reply to my complaint had elapsed - in the face of a 
customs and delivery notice prepared by Weiss specifying only one of two items 
was in the parcel  - was deny the claim and that's it. 
 
Paypal never even bothered to advise why the mere denial by 
Weiss was enough to reject my claim or whether it was based on any evidence of 
shipping the cards under separate cover or delivery to some other address or why 
the customs information, (which actual evidence was refused when tendered in 
place of a false report of theft but a scan of which I embedded in an email and 
sent anyway), was of no consequence compared to a demand for a fax of a report 
to my city's police of a claim be me that Weiss committed a crime by not 
delivering an item worth $30!
 
Oh yes paypal insisted over and over without 
explanation why it was required or would advance the understanding and 
resolution of the claim that I file a police report in order to have the 
socalled (non)investigation proceed. 
 
Of course filing a police report of a criminal activity 
requires that I have some evidence to support the notion that there was 
criminal intent behind the mere nondelivery, which I could not in good 
conscience state. So I asked repeatedly of 5 "people" how filing a criminal 
report for $30 with Vancouver police, never to be acted upon by a foreign 
force, would advance the mediation of a civil remedy by paypal. Never a 
response. In fact they never, ever acknowledged the questions.
 
This insistence of a criminal report was of 
 particular concern because threatening criminal sanctions in the 
collection of a civil debt may itself be cause for sanctions - so paypal 
was in effect trying to get me to compromise myself - file a false 
statement and use the criminal law to collect a debt - for no good reason. 

 
I flatly refused to file a false report and finally for that 
refusal this week after 2 months the 6th "person" - it might be one person using 
aliases for all I know - rejected my claim - not on the merits because paypal 
refused to adjudicate on the merits - but for my "failure" to follow a rule 
which was not published in the complaint guide or brought 
up until well after the complaint was made and the time for the seller's 
reply had lapsed and for which there was never any reason given . 
 
This was never required when I had sought recompense before 
from not-so-big sellers as Weiss. The other 2 times that I have sought to 
recover for nondelivery, paypal's timing allowed the sellers to empty their 
accounts so that paypal could close the complaints by stating there were no 
funds against which to draw, so why go ahead?
 
If anyone wants to see the whole sorry email thread and have 
their worst fears of shameless corporate nonfeasance and malfeasance borne out, 
please let me know. 
 
Craig 
Vancouver
 
 
- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Natalie 
  Elliott 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:37 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Buryer Beware!
  Not just Paypal, any credit card payment provides the exact 
  same insurance. Ifit doesn't arrive, you simply ring 'em up and say you 
  want a chargeback.NatalieQuoting JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> 
  John,>> This is why I urge everyone to pay for auctions with 
  PayPal (unless you know> the seller well). At least with PayPal you can 
  file a transaction dispute> within 30 days and most of the time PayPal 
  will get your money back for you.> There is no other payment method 
  where you can do this. This is also why all> honest sellers should 
  accept PayPal (you can make up for the small PayPal> transaction fee by 
  adding 50 cents or a buck to your shipping charge).>> I hate to 
  say it, but since you sent a check, you're probably screwed.> Report 
  the problem to eBay if you haven't already and hope for the best> 
  (there isn't much they can do if the guy entered bogus account 
  information> when he registered).>> I have no idea why 
  eBay even allows feedback to be made private, it seems to> be a 
  complete denial of their own claim that "feedback is the heart of> 
  eBay", as there is no reason to make your feedback private unless you 
  are> trying to hid bad feedback. Of course I realize that this bozo 
  made his> feedback private *after* you sent him the 
  check.>> -- JR>>   - Original 
  Message ->   From: John Sears>   To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>   
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 7:19>   Subject: [MOPO] Buryer 
  Beware!>>>   Having problems with the following 
  individual:>   Ebay user ID - rickmonroe>   
  S

Re: [MOPO] Shipping valuable posters to Canada

[Craig Goebel]




Walter, I have seen your recent 
offerings and love the Barbarella quad.
 
Almost all goods imported into Canada 
are subject to (excise) sales tax to ensure there is a similar treatment as to 
cost of goods from outside the country compared to those 
bought inside the country if they are of similar kinds. This is only 
fair to workers in the country. Also, that way people are at least encouraged to 
buy in-country. 
 
What this means for an expensive 
poster is that there are sales taxes imposed as if the purchase were 
capable of being made in-country, which it might not be. No one seems to have 
made an effort to contest the imposition of sales taxes on the basis 
that the item was not capable of being obtained in-country, at least 
to my knowledge. But even an expensive poster is by definition a mass produced 
poster and therefore unlikely to be "unique" until all the other 
copies are gone.
 

There is federal 7% Goods and Services 
Tax and depending on the province into which the item is being sent 
provincial sales taxes of about 7 - 8%. In addition to that there is a $5 admin 
fee for rooting through the parcel and charging the taxes. This is so that 
people who can afford to buy from outside the country pay for the taxation 
service moreso than those who don't and thus the taxes on everyone are somewhat 
lower than they might otherwise be if all taxpayers were subsidizing the 
purchases from outside the country of the well-to-do.
 
The consideration for Canadian 
buyers is to balance the chance to evade the government's taxes and to 
ensure that an expensive poster is properly valued for insuring it. Generally 
enlightened fiscal self-interest prevails for expensive posters and proper 
declarations of value are made and the coincidental tax charges for doing that 
are an accepted, expected part of the transaction before the purchase is made. 
Cheaper posters that are easily replaced if lost are likely the subject of much 
preverication.
 
Most countries have a value-added tax 
imposed on goods and services which targets consumption, not income, (giving 
rebates to the poor who can least afford to spend money on other than 
necessities), but which is not imposed on goods destined for export. That way 
exports which also create jobs are not harmed by being made more expensive 
before they leave the country making them less competitive elsewhere. Tax 
regimes that have changed to this basis are much fairer than those that persist 
in mostly taxing income. Sadly, twenty years after making these kinds of 
changes many Canadians still miss the points behind them. Every province 
and most other local jusidictions in other countries have a sales tax that 
try to accomplish similar things for the good of the people.
 
So if you have a buyer who can afford 
to obtain your expensive poster it is likely that person will want 
to have the item properly valued for insurance purposes and will 
accept that coincidental taxes are a price to pay for that peace of 
mind.
 
Craig, Vancouver
 
 
 
Walter Reuben wrote: 

  

hey thereCan one of our Canadian friends help me out here? 
I know that, if properly declared, there 
is no duty in the US or the UK on old movie posters.What is the law in Canada? thanks!  
Walter Reuben
Walter Reuben, Inc. 
urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" 
/>500 North Harper Avenue 
Los 
AngelesCA90048USA 

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Re: [MOPO] EBay's PayPal to buy VeriSign unit for $370 mln

[Craig Goebel]

If Paypal corners any more of the online payment market 
everyone, particularly an individual who is more buyer than seller, is 
really in trouble. The so-called resolution program is worthless when it 
comes to trying to recoup payment when there is nondelivery by a big 
seller. There is a more concerted effort by Paypal at obfuscation than even in 
eBay's program, from which I was referred. More to follow in due course. Craig, 
Vancouver

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Richard 
  Halegua Comic Art 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 12:22 
  PM
  Subject: [MOPO] EBay's PayPal to buy 
  VeriSign unit for $370 mln
  EBay's PayPal to buy VeriSign unit for $370 mlnBy 
  Eric AuchardSAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - EBay Inc. (EBAY.O:Quote,Profile,Research)will 
  buy VeriSign's payment processing business for $370 million andmerge it 
  with its PayPal unit as part of a wider e-commerce paymentservices and 
  security alliance, the companies said on Monday.The move was seen as 
  letting PayPal, already the largest onlinepayments company, expand faster 
  beyond its core audience ofeBay-based transactions and to compete better 
  with credit cards as anonline-payment system, analysts 
  said.VeriSign's payment gateway software connects Web businesses 
  withpayment processors generally run by major banks. VeriSign also is 
  thedominant supplier of software used to manage secure credit 
  cardtransactions between consumers and Web sites.PayPal said the 
  payment gateway business would generate anincremental $100 million of 
  revenue for it in 2006.VeriSign Inc. (VRSN.O:Quote,Profile,Research)shares 
  rose 5.2 percent to $21.08 in after-hours trade following theannouncement 
  of the deal.Shares of eBay were unchanged, after closing up 56 cents, 
  or 1.4percent, to $40.46 in Nasdaq trading ahead of the 
  news.SECURITY TOKENSAs part of the deal, eBay will buy up to 
  one million tokens fromVeriSign that display constantly-changing numbers 
  used as passwordsto increase security. So-called 'two-factor 
  authentication' relies ona set password and a number from the token, which 
  is synchronizedwith a central server.Rival RSA Security Inc. 
  (RSAS.O:Quote,Profile,Research)pioneered 
  the market for such digital security tokens, but VeriSignhas been 
  expanding, and the tokens are being embedded in computers,mobile phones or 
  offered as key chain accessories."We are working furiously to make 
  customers as safe as they can beand to give them the tools to make their 
  transactions as secure aspossible," Jeff Jordan, PayPal's president, said 
  in a phone interview.PAYPAL EXPANSIONLegg Mason analyst Scott 
  Devitt said the deal promises to give PayPala leg-up in becoming the 
  accepted payment mechanism system onVeriSign's 100,000 or so small 
  business sites."Strategically the deal absolutely makes sense," and 
  was at afavorable price, relative to revenue acquired, for 
  eBay.VeriSign's payment software system -- which handled more than 
  $40billion in payments during 2004 -- will help PayPal expand its 
  pushinto the merchant services market, analysts said.Two-thirds of 
  PayPal's $6.5 billion in payment transactions were doneon eBay during the 
  second quarter. EBay wants to expand the remainingthird, called merchant 
  services."Given the early stage revolt among retailers against rising 
  creditcard processing fees, particularly among online retailers, we 
  believePayPal is well positioned to take share in this market," CSFB 
  analystHeath Terry said in a note to investors.Some 22 percent of 
  U.S. e-commerce transactions passed through theVeriSign software gateway 
  in 2004, eBay spokeswoman Amanda Piressaid. PayPal payments accounted for 
  9 percent of e-commerce paymentservice volumes, she said.The 
  gateway competes with software from CyberSource Corp. (CYBS.O:Quote,Profile,Research)and 
  Authorize.net, a Lightbridge Inc. (LTBG.O:Quote,

Re: [MOPO] Ebay help. Buyer claims MO sent & not recieved. What to do?

[Craig Goebel]

Postal money orders are treated like 
cheques and must be endorsed by the payee to be cashed and if the payor wants to 
find out if the MO was lost or cashed by the seller, a trace for it by the PO 
can be asked for usually by filling out a trace form using the number from the 
receipt /flimsy (that's one reason why there is a cost for buying it) and the 
postal service will send advice it has not been returned (so a refund is made) 
or will send a copy showing the front and back. Postal MOs are cashable at 
the main POs in virtually every town. They are quite servicable provided 
everyone is operating on good faith.
 
Unless there is some 
postal employee who is tracking the envelopes to a person and assuming 
that there are some with money in them or cheques or MOs, the automated sorting 
systems mean there is very little touching of the envelopes and a properly 
wrapped MO would be impossible to "find". So it's much less likely there is 
theft by PO employees, that is compared to unscrupulous sellers who pretend they 
didn't get the MO. Even if the buyer fails to send payment the seller always 
still has the item, even if out a small amount of 
money.
 
Of course the scam that the item was 
"sent" is still a favourite of bad sellers. And the buyer is 
always out a substantial sum by comparison. 
 
Craig, Vancouver
 
 
 
- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Movie Poster Bid 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:13 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Ebay help. Buyer 
  claims MO sent & not recieved. What to do?
  
  Evan,
   
  Although it doesn't help you with this case, I have started 
  recommending to seller that they no longer accept money order for this very 
  reason. At least with a personal check the buyer would be obligated to present 
  a copy of the back of the check showing who cashed it and what bank it was 
  process through. In the case of money orders, you have no real evidence like 
  this (at least, I'm not aware of how you could get it).
   
  Also, there have been more and more cases of fake money 
  order being passed off lately. Once again, this is where PayPal comes in 
  handy, despite their fairly stiff processing fees. At least with PayPal you 
  know the payment you receive is real money and you don't have to wait for 
  anything to clear. Yes, there is the remote possibility that a buyer will 
  institute a charge-back or "buyer complaint" against you and that you will 
  have to hassle with PayPal about that, but those cases are much more rare than 
  the cases of checks/money orders bouncing or disappearing in the 
  mails.
   
  -- JR
   
  
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From: 
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To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 
9:07
Subject: [MOPO] Ebay help. Buyer claims 
MO sent & not recieved. What to do?

Anyone have any suggestion as what to do when a buyer claims a money 
order was sent and say he checked on it and it was cashed, but I never 
recieved it? I have little experience with money orders. Anyone know how to 
actually check if one is cashed or how to request a copy of a 
signature?  I would hate to get negative feedback for something like 
this and not sure what to do. Thanks to anyone for help. Evan
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Re: [MOPO] [off topic re crypt

[Craig Goebel]

The overwhelming majority of North American TVs are NTSC 
(color) format compatible only, so even with a player that can play PAL and NTSC 
discs, the NTSC TV 24f/sec cannot accept PAL 25f/sec projection and the image 
perpetually skips. The requirement is for a TV that has dual compatibility to 
function with the two projection systems. Of course that then means another 
/ new TV, if they're selling them in NA (maybe they are). 
 
Even then, someone is still going to try to figure out another 
way to change things for the sake of obsolesence and making money.
 
Don't forget that the studios, the software and hardware 
mfgers and the talent are vitally interested in implementing another dvd system, 
timed for just when this one peaks - moving from white laser to competing 
red and blue lasers, with, of course more, new and different incompatibilities - 
Beta vs. vhs redux.
 
Craig, Vancouver
 
 
 - Original Message - 

  From: 
  Colin 
  Hunter 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:43 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Tales from the Cypt 
  NEWS
  Why not get a multi-region DVD player so you'renot beholden 
  to the studios' artificial regionrestrictions?  The Pioneer DVD-575 
  is only £100from  
  andit can transcode from NTSC to PAL (and PAL toNTSC) if your TV is 
  PAL-only, and it plays SACDsand DVD-A disks.  I   had one 
  shipped from the UKa few months ago so I could buy all the great UKTV 
  DVDs that'll never see the light of day in theUS.Colin 
  Hunter>Hi Philipp>>Thanks for this piece of 
  news!  I guess the PAL region 2 version won't be>too long  
  behind it .. but still enough behind to give me the needle.>>I 
  know the thinking behind staggered region releases, but that doesn't 
  mean>I have to like 
  it.-- 
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Re: [MOPO] Bruce's Explanation of The Situation with eBay

[Craig Goebel]

In regard to an associate bidding - I have little doubt that 
Bruce's associate's bidding was meant for himself and not otherwise intended to 
advance any ulterior agenda. However, having only been made aware of this 
now, bidders can only wonder what better knowledge and information Phillip 
might have had being an associate than they have had? 
 
In dealings where there is a fiscal interest among some 
parties different than others, there should be no possible way for anyone to be 
advantaged unless all other participants agree to that or that there really is 
no advantage. There certainly could be an appearance that fairness was 
not the same across the board, even moreso, when the bidding was "removed" to 
another mode, whatever ebay suggested. 
 
This element of the complaint by ebay was partly facilitated 
by ebay so shouldn't necessarily have been any of the basis for 
deregistration. Nevertheless, all parties seemed to have made lapses 
of judgment. Surely Phillip could have exercised his collecting via other means 
(everything comes up sometime on ebay) or other bidders should have been told 
and given the option to bid or not, or voice an opinion. Bruce has extolled his reputation for fairness and bidders have been 
asked to accept that proper judgment was applied in this matter and 
otherwise - and maybe nothing bad happened vis-a-vis other bidders; 
but bidders don't know for sure and have no way to determine that 
beneficence prevailed, though they might have faith it was based on 
what else he has demonstrated.
 

Having practiced law for 25 years, the one thing that must be 
understood by all counsel when considering whether to act for parties with 
possibly contending interests is: if it looks like it might be a 
conflict of interest, it actually IS, until it is not. To paraphrase the 
legal maxim about how to proceed: not only must fairness be done among the 
parties, it must be seen to be done. 
 
Hopefully, this particular matter should be something that can 
be resolved by Bruce and his customers.
 
Craig
Vancouver
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  J R 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:46 
  PM
  Subject: [MOPO] Bruce's Explanation of 
  The Situation with eBay
  Since Bruce is no longer a member of MOPO I am taking it upon 
  myselfto foward this message from him , which he just sent to his 
  newslettersubscribers, to this list:"This is Bruce 
  Hershenson.  This morning (April 6th), withoutwarning, eBay closed 
  all of my 1,500+ newly listed items, and calledme totell me I was 
  about to be "indefinitely suspended from eBay".  I askedif Icould 
  have an hour to appeal this decision to eBay, and was told 
  thatwasimpossible. 
  Thirty minutes later all the auctions were closed and myaccountnow 
  reads "not a registered user".  This after 160,000+ sales in 
  fiveyears, with 110,000 positive feedbacks (against only 12 
  negatives,likelyan eBay 
  record!). I called eBay 
  and was told that I had been indefinitelysuspendedbecause I had 
  "repeatedly violated their rules" (selling items thatwere intheir VERO 
  program, selling items not allowed, such as a "Mein Kampf"movieposter, 
  etc) and that they believed they had located a second accountthatI was 
  using to place bids on my items, and that this, combined with 
  mymanypast offenses, was why I was being "indefinitely suspended from 
  eBay". Let me explain 
  about the second account.  My main computerexpertis Phillip Wages 
  and he is a poster collector.  When Phillip startedworking for me 
  four years ago, he started bidding on a few of myitems, toadd to his 
  collection. This worked 
  out fine for a few months, until eBay called meandtold me he could not 
  bid on my items using his own name.  The personexplained that what 
  mattered was the appearance of impropriety.  Iaskedwhat would be 
  the difference if Phillip had a friend bid on items forhim,and the 
  person said that would be fine, as long as he wasn't biddingthrough his 
  own account. Phillip began 
  to bid with a friend's account.  Over the nextcouple of years he 
  purchased items on this account for his collection.Healso used this 
  account to place some bids for people who did notregisterfor our major 
  auctions in time, giving those who had missedregistering thechance to 
  bid. I feel that this 
  bidding on Phillip's part was sanctioned byeBay,given that they said 
  he could bid through a friend's account and 
  hedid. As to the 
  "numerous other violations" the eBay employeecited,they were all minor 
  items where I unknowingly violated one of theirmanyconfusing rules, 
  and in every case I chose to let eBay end the auctionrather that contest 
  their ruling, even though I believed it to beincorrectin almost all 
  cases, for I might well have spent hours writing manye-mailsto get 
  them to allow me to sell a five or ten dollar

Re: [MOPO] New Mandatory Address Requirements for Canada

[Craig Goebel]

There are international postal conventions to which virtually 
every country with postal services belongs. If the Candian service has 
introduced any new addressing requirements they are, as Bob notes, essentially 
variations of those already in use. The prospect that the postal service is 
turning back truckloads for minor "noncompliance" seems somewhat unlikely. 
Anyway, the paypal address info setup that many sellers seem to copy and paste 
onto parcels works fine. If paying by mail buyers should include their own 
label. 
 
Return addresses though have to be as clear as the 
recipient's. So there is an issue related to legibility of that - make sure it's 
complete or else that will result in a rejection of receipt. And that's the same 
for the US and other countries now.
 
Starting and since late Fall the US and Canadian services have 
been a loggerheads and I'm not sure who is to "blame", over where the US will 
deliver parcel post in Canada - there was a change from Winnipeg, Calgary and 
Vancouver Customs depots to Vancouver only for all of western Canada, so there 
has been a long backlog - first for Christmas; possibly now there is no room 
for MORE parcels and there is a turnaround of trucks / other delay - 
as FEWER Customs agents check many more parcels than before for, as Phil 
states, contraband and explosives. 
 
Going the other way of course, there is the interdiction of 
homemade foodstuffs such as cookies and fudge and horrors (!?) farm-drawn 
bottles of maple syrup from Gramma that have not been preapproved (tasted by 
Gitmo prisoners?).
 
Still, the mail does leak through.
 
Craig, Vancouver

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Vaughn K. 
  Mann 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 1:16 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] New Mandatory Address 
  Requirements for Canada
  Hello,What are the specific 
  requirements?I just sent about 10 up 
  thereThanks, VaughnAt 03:04 PM 3/9/2005 -0600, Captain 
  Bijou wrote:
  Are all 
MoPOers aware of the recently instituted mandatory addressing requirements 
on all mail sent to Canada?? A 
worker at my local post office gave me a inter-office bulletin outlining the 
new requirements, which begins with the following paragraph: 
 "Canada has 
instituted mandatory addressing requirements on all incoming mail. Canada is 
refusing all mail that does not conform to the new requirements and has been 
returning truckloads to us every day." I've had two packages to Canada recently returned for no 
apparent reason. The culprit must have been the way the labels were 
addressed. Any other MoPoers have this experience recently?? 
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Re: [MOPO] sniping

[Craig Goebel]

Perhaps only a old (and dab) hand like Phil would be 
aware of all the invidious minsitrations that impede the virtuous bidder's 
progress to his well-deserved end (item). 
 
Is there really much shill bidding? The last round of 
discussion dealt with issues of one-bid auctions and a plethora of buy-it-now 
selling, so that doesn't support the notion of widespread underhanded running-up 
of items' prices. Mainly I see one-two-three bid auctions for autographs, 
stills, lobbies and sometimes posters on most well-respected and -patronised 
sites, with spirited, multiple bidding on posters when they are rare or 
otherwise interesting (or even mundane if on Bruce Hershenson's site). Mostly I 
bid against a variety of people who focus on certain items or genres and I 
see them regularly - their feddback is generally + and consistent. I don't 
really worry about shilling, but really should I? 
 
As for sniping, if a bidder does not use a service, as I do 
not, then the whole auction process is fraught with interest, excitement and 
yes, heartbreak, (remedied shortly thereafter with a good single malt and 
the recollection that virtually everything comes around again). 
 
And, if the recently excpressed anxiety about the precipitous 
drop-off of prices and minimum values is actually true, then the longer I go 
without the more likely I'll get what I want for less than I am willing to pay 
now. What could be better: not having with the delicious anticipation 
that if I wait long enough (or underbid often enough) eventually "sellers" 
will be clamoring to pay me to take their stuff (deflationary disacquisitionary 
markets rule!). Mind, I might die in the process of sublimating all that 
anticipation for the Barbarella B, but what a way to go: poised at 3AM 
bleary-eyed and addle-pated enough to bid more than I can afford against a 
computer in Vanuatu knowing I will not be fast enough on a 128bit machine to 
post a (winning?) bid starting any closer to the end than about 25 seconds. I 
much prefer the fun of being there than the sterility of double absentee 
bidding. And, again, if I miss the piece, then fortune dictates 
that it will come up again and I can try to get it for less than I numbly 
bid in the nether hours. Plus look at all the money I have saved by not winning, 
which oddly goes for food and shelter and good malt scotch (not necessarily in 
that order) with some for Dario to fix the likes of Aussie onesheet "Quebec". 
Even then, using this particularly ill-regimented process, I have managed to 
amass a few of the items in which I am interested and along the way many more 
bits of ill-considered detritus, (though the horrormeisters and sci-fi geeks 
need not fear that I'll be aiming down any sniper scope at their 
drool-encrusted treasures). 
 
Craig, Vancouver

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Phil 
  Edwards Cinema Arts 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:39 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] sniping
  
  I used to do my own sniping years ago but now 
  use a sniping program for two reasons - neither of which have to do with the 
  guarantee of winning the item. Firstly, I'm too old and too over it to be 
  bothered setting the clock for 3 a.m. to snipe it myself, and secondly I got 
  sick of sellers running up my early-placed high bid by some obvious shills (as 
  in registered two days after the auction started, or have a buying history 
  that reflected nothing - and I mean nothing - in their  interest in the 
  current item) not to mention all those IDs that bid on the same auctions 
  week in and week out and never win anything.
   
  Phil
   
  Phil Edwards Cinema Arts Pty Ltd26 Vista AvenueSoldiers 
  PointNSW 2317AUSTRALIAEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Phone/Fax 
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To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 

Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:18 
AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] MOPO/ see! there we 
go with the watchers again

Randall,
 
Think about it for a second:
 
On eBay, you *have* to use a sniper program if you want to win -- 
because other bidders are using them and you don't stand much of a chance if 
you don't as well.
 
On MPB, you don't have to use a sniper program -- because no one else 
is using them either! So you can enter your maximum bid at any time (from 
your watchlist if you like) and know that it will be processed against 
others bids in a timely fashion -- and that as the auction closes 
if anyone wants to try and put in a last-minute bid that they need to 
do it without "cutting it too close" or their last-second bid won't get in 
before the auction closes. So you can actually watch the item you want close 
and bid competitively at the end (manually) and have a "real auction" 
instead of

Re: [MOPO] WWII items mystery partly solved

[Craig Goebel]

 
I would expect that the reasons include the probable 
interdiction of -
- Holocaust denial and anti-Semitism often put 
out under the guise of trade in war artifacts
- the trade in Nazi, fascist and Stalinist items (if not 
the latter then there should be)
- illegal and restricted weaponry
 
Some countries limit the export of historical items like 
medals without there being an offer made to local buyers, so maybe it's easier 
to generally prevent the offer. 
 
There are other reasons I'm sure, many of which might not 
stand up to notions of free trade, but that's the conundrum and the wonder of 
the internet.
 
Craig, Vancouver, BC

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tom 
  Johnson 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:20 
  AM
  Subject: [MOPO] WWII items mystery partly 
  solved
  Well, this is still strange, but as has been suggested, seems 
  to be abrowser related issue.  I tried the same searches wioth 
  Internet Explorer,and everything worked fine.  It's Safari--another 
  browser that comes withMac OS 10--that has this strange restriction on all 
  WWII Militariacollectibles, at least when I try to get to them. I'm not 
  even a WIIcollector--just stumbled into this phenomenon while trying to 
  look at theimage of one poster.  --Tom"Dear 
  User:Unfortunately, access to this particular category or item has 
  been blockeddue to legal restrictions in your home country. Based on our 
  discussionswith concerned government agencies and eBay community members, 
  we have takenthese steps to reduce the chance of inappropriate items being 
  displayed.Regrettably, in some cases this policy may prevent users from 
  accessingitems that do not violate the law. At this time, we are working 
  on lessrestrictive alternatives. Please accept our apologies for any 
  inconveniencethis may cause you, and we hope you may find other items of 
  interest oneBay.  Thank You".The question is, 
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Re: [MOPO] eBay Announces Upcoming Fees Changes

[Craig Goebel]

With other venues not offering the same high level of exposure 
and "viewings", the cost increases that cut into net revenue have to be measured 
against the "cost" of no revenue or substantially reduced revenue. Do the 
(large) sellers have records of what the comparisons to pre-ebay sales are? 

 
Going from local, state or even country exposure via newspaper 
ads, flyers and other paper-based modes of announcing business through 
selling via mail order catalogs or brick and mortar to potential buyers 
stumbling-upon a proprietary website (with no-fraud-recourse) to focused ebay 
exposure to millions and millions of possible clients world-wide, is the 
extreme exposure that ebay is trying to make the BUYERS pay for - because most 
sellers will do whatever they can to pass the increases on to their clients. 

 
Indeed sellers' fee avoidance is happening all the time by 
every seller who sets low minimum prices and charges relatively large shipping 
and handling amounts mostly unrelated to the cost of sending and overhead 
costs but designed to make-up for "underpricing" at the outset.
 
If ebay is to be "brought down", then the sellers (exercising 
enlightened fiscal self-interest) on behalf of their buyers to whom they do 
not want to pass on the (constant?) cost increases must collectively move their 
business to some other site that gives similar degrees of exposure, 
regularity (no downtime) and protection to both sides to the transaction. 
Buyers (exercising enlightened fiscal self-interest) will follow. 
 
But sellers must appreciate they are operating for (to get AND 
keep) buyers, which (as I see all these postings and most others that have gone 
before them on similar topics) almost never discuss the buyer part of the 
equation. (And every time I post something like this there is a loud crescendo 
of non-responsiveness - why is that?)
 
If sellers abandon their ebay stores and try selling 
hundreds of items that potential buyers cannot readily sort, in no time buyers 
WILL move on from that seller and not come back. Most buyers will not labor 
through a long listing as most have SOMETHING in mind and limited time. Why else 
would Bruce Hershenson spend so much of his time and effort in making it easier 
for buyers to get specifically into his listings? I'd suggest he knows this is 
vital. ( I bought several items at his recent auction of 100s of items but got 
right to what I was thinking of getting right away and had them ready for 
bidding - without wading through stuff in which I had no interest. I do the same 
with several other very good sellers on this list and buy from then 
repeatedly.)
 
Craig, Vancouver
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Richard 
  Halegua Comic Art 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:54 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] eBay Announces 
  Upcoming Fees Changes
  these are pretty hefty increases.if I sell a 
  $10,000 piece of art, my costs will have increased by justabout double due 
  to the final auction fee increases which are a few centsunder 
  double..  They just make it more & more dis-advantageous to 
  sellstuff all the time and maybe this will have the effect of  
  reducing theitems listed by a considerable number which would also have 
  the result ofmaybe other, pre-ebay sources of revenue could wind up seeing 
  an increaseover time. I predict that someday in teh next 2 years, that 
  ebay willpotentially price itself right out of the market as the bigger 
  sellers, whoare really hithard by the increases, look for other avenues to 
  sell..Rich==At 09:16 AM 
  1/12/05, Movielegends wrote:>eBay Announces Upcoming Fees 
  Changes>January 12, 2005>>eBay will be changing fees for 
  certain features and>categories on eBay.com and eBay Motors 
  effective>February 18, 2005. eBay also raised 
  monthly>subscription fees for eBay stores from $9.95 per 
  month>to $15.95 per month.>>Among the fee changes 
  are:>>Gallery Fee Changes for eBay.com and eBay Motors 
  Parts>& Accessories Listings>Gallery fees will be raised 
  from $0.25 to $0.35 per>listing. eBay will also be increasing the size 
  of the>Gallery image on search and listings pages by 
  56%.>>Buy It Now (BIN) Fees>BIN fees will be determined 
  based on the amount of the>Buy It Now price. Fees will be charged as 
  follows:>>BIN Price / Fee>$0.01-9.99 / 
  $0.05>$10-24.99 / $0.10>$25-49.99 / $0.20>$50+ / 
  $0.25>>10-Day Duration Fee>The fee for 10-day duration 
  listings will be raised>from $0.20 to $0.40 per 
  listing.>>eBay Stores>The fee for the Basic eBay Stores 
  subscription will be>raised from $9.95 to $15.95 per month. The fee 
  for>Featured and Anchored Stores will be unchanged.>>eBay 
  Stores insertion fees will remain unchanged. The>Final Value Fee for 
  Stores items will change as>follows:>>Closing Price / 
  Fee>$0.01-$25 / 8% of the closing price>>$25.01-$1000 / 
  8% of the initial $25.00, pl

Re: [MOPO] capitol

[Craig Goebel]

I agree with Phil regarding the fine people who run Capitol - 
I've bought many posters from Tom and Strother and recently some stills throught 
the adjunct operation and have always had excellent dealings. On that basis one 
of these days I'll get a poster restored. Craig, Vancouver
 
- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Phil 
  Edwards Cinema Arts 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:33 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] capitol
  No, I don't have shares in Capitol! And as another dealer I 
  have nothing togain by recommending other sellers, something I do with 
  extreme caution andonly after I feel comfortable dealing with them myself. 
  I've been dealingwith Tom and Strother for some time now (and Fontaine via 
  default, so tospeak) and I must say they are they among the squarest guys 
  I've ever dealtwith. No B.S. and very friendly and upfront.There 
  are definitely some very god guys in the business, and Strother, Tomand 
  Fontaine are easily in the top 10.PhilPhil Edwards Cinema Arts Pty 
  Ltd26 Vista AvenueSoldiers PointNSW 2317AUSTRALIAEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Phone/Fax 
  (International Dial) 0011 61 2 49847233Phone/Fax  (Domestic Dial) 02 
  4984 7233Website: www.cinemarts.com- Original 
  Message -From: "chris quarles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
  Sent: 
  Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:25 AMSubject: Re: [MOPO] Linenbacker 
  Malaise> Saul-> I've used Fontaine at Capitol & she 
  is fantastic! She> did outstanding work on my Drums Along the 
  Mohawk,> Mummy's Ghost, Dr. No, Barry Lyndon, & White Heat.> 
  They also sell great stuff, frequently at bargain> prices! I just 
  bought several posters from them.>> Additionally, I've been to 
  their shop in Tampa.> Fontaine & her brother Strother, their dad, 
  Tom, are> the nicest people you'd ever want to meet! I spent> 
  several hours with them talking about posters. They> were all too 
  willing to show me the process they use> in backing posters. I highly 
  recommend!>> Chris Quarles>> --- "Saul H. Chapman 
  PhD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
  wrote:>> > Did I say "malaise?"  I meant PRAISE!  
  Rather than> > linenbacker mashing I just feel like its time to 
  do> > a bit of linenbacker Splashing!  I've had some> 
  > really nice linenbacking and restoration work done> > by two of 
  our more outstanding artisans and> > craftsman, Jaime Mendez and 
  Dario Casadei.  These> > guys are truely exacting and 
  passionate in their> > work and turn out very good quality 
  product.  I> > highly recommend both of these gentleman and 
  will> > continue to send posters to them.> >> > 
  If you haven't yet sent something to Jaime or Dario> > perhaps you 
  should give them a try.  I don't think> > you will be 
  disappointed.  Examples of their> > restoration work can be 
  found on each of their> > websites.> > You can find Dario 
  at www.vintagemovieart.ca 
  and> > Jaime at www.restorationbyjm.com> 
  >> > Also, I recently purchased an old Italian Foglio> 
  > from Capitol Posters & Restoration.  At the time of> > 
  this purchase I had a chance to talk to Fontaine> > Ayala, a young 
  and apparently quite talented> > linenbacker and restoration artist 
  with Capitol.> > She sent me some photos of her restoration 
  work> > which appears very impressive and I certainly plan> 
  > to give her a chance to show her stuff and will have> > her 
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Re: [MOPO] Linenbacker praise

[Craig Goebel]

I concur with Saul's recommendation of Dario. Dario's 
done nearly 50 posters for me - one sheets and Oz d/bs - to excellent effect and 
prices related to the effort. Several have been reclamation projects, including 
a couple old, rare items that needed much work - Quebec and Blood and Sand. 
Knowledgable and oh so courteous. Craig, Vancouver.

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  From: 
  Saul 
  H. Chapman PhD 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:57 
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  Subject: [MOPO] Linenbacker Malaise
  
  Did I say "malaise?"  I meant PRAISE!  
  Rather than linenbacker mashing I just feel like its time to do a bit of 
  linenbacker Splashing!  I've had some really nice linenbacking and 
  restoration work done by two of our more outstanding artisans and craftsman, 
  Jaime Mendez and Dario Casadei.  These 
  guys are truely exacting and passionate in their work and turn out very 
  good quality product.  I highly recommend both of these gentleman 
  and will continue to send posters to them.  
   
  If you haven't yet sent something to Jaime or 
  Dario perhaps you should give them a try.  I don't think you will be 
  disappointed.  Examples of their restoration work can be found on each of 
  their websites.
  You can find Dario at www.vintagemovieart.ca and 
  Jaime at www.restorationbyjm.com
   
  Also, I recently purchased an old Italian Foglio 
  from Capitol Posters & Restoration.  At the time of this purchase I 
  had a chance to talk to Fontaine Ayala, a young and 
  apparently quite talented linenbacker and restoration artist with 
  Capitol.  She sent me some photos of her restoration work which appears 
  very impressive and I certainly plan to give her a chance to show her stuff 
  and will have her linenback and do restoration work on the Italian 
  piece.
   
  Okay, give 'em a try!
   
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Re: [MOPO] Paypal and people

[Craig Goebel]

I commiserate with John and am glad it was a small amount 
lost. I have done business with him successfully, despite the vagaries of 
delivery. I am delighted to deal with John and other topline poster sellers who 
care about the transaction in all its phases and their customers. When things 
sometimes go wrong, there's always a reasonable prospect for 
resolution.
 
There really is no other way to look at this issue than as 
part of the cost of doing business when the item is consigned to any third party 
for delivery. 
 
Secure, virtually instant on-line payments have been a boon to 
sellers surely, by mostly eliminating lost letters containing money orders and 
the time-cost of getting them cashed and so-called lost letters from 
fraudulent buyers. 
 
These services have benefited buyers too: protecting them 
from those sellers who falsely deny receipt of the MO - some still do as I 
have recently noted regarding a Turkish poster seller. 
 
Now buyers still deal with sellers who state the item was 
sent, but it wasn't and, still, negligent and indifferent 
packaging and ruined items on delivery. I just got an 05 calendar from a seller 
who failed to put any stiffeners into the packaging and the postal services of 
two counties bent and creased it to a useless state. The seller required a 
substantial "shipping AND HANDLING" sum and had 100s of positive feedback. 
While I generally expect a bad result and am pleasantly surprised on the receipt 
of an item intact in a reasonable time, I didn't figure specifically 
for a bad result for that item. 
 
And sellers who list hundreds and hundreds of items then have 
NO system for even internally tracking when items are sent are another huge 
problem, because all buyers can do is wait and hope against hope usually past 30 
days and no recourse. These sellers often do not reply to inquires either, 
because they're so busy listing MORE stuff and don't know when the stuff goes 
out and DON'T CARE because they have been paid - by paypal - and 
don't expect repeat business. 
 
So the feeble recourse for buyers is to give the 
o-so "dreaded" negative or "scaredy-cat" buyer's neutral feedback. But 
these same sellers have time for retaliatory negatives which are 
specious. 
 
Buyers should build those kinds of problems and sellers into 
their economic model and use them very sparingly (only for items they MUST have, 
but, ironically, can live without), because they'll never go away. 

 
Buyers would assume that the sellers' business models take 
nondelivery and the occasional refund for good customer relations into account 
when the opening price is set against the reasonably expected end price even if 
it is the opening price. Buyers should be able to expect that the sellers' 
overhead costs are included in the price. 
 
However, the effort by many sellers to avoid ebay and 
paypal sellers' FEES (most of which are calculable and should form part of 
overhead and the price) has reached such a feverish pace as to 
approach fees evasion. These sellers have low opening prices and 
charge unduly high shipping and handling charges to get more money for their 
items without paying fees. Of course their packaging has to be 
minimal to keep as much of the backend as 
possible.
 
I don't include in this bad group sellers whose business model 
is proven to be based on market-forces driving the bidding, so they can start 
low, because the fees are higher at the end and likely are at least commensurate 
with start and end fees together (some sellers use a straight buying 
model with the same result) AND who charge reasonable shipping costs AND do 
a good job of packaging.  
 
Ebay and Paypal could do much better of course if they were to 
consult and ACCEPT recommendations from longtime respected sellers and buyers of 
many kinds of items and business models on these issues.
 
But the issue really is not Paypal per 
se, it's the people with whom we 
(all) deal.
 
Can anyone can find a prophylatic for toxic people such 
as those noted? Not likely, so we're all engaging in various degrees of "risky 
business" and have to find some level of comfort for doing so.
 
As I move closer to completing (if that will ever really 
happen) a poster collection with which I am pleased, I am limiting the sellers 
with whom I deal to those who my risk assessment gives me good 
comfort.
 
John and others with substantial inventories, have 
to deal with a much larger selection of buyers and thus their risk 
assessments must result in and account for higher probabilities that 
problems will occur. Good buyers pay for that as well.
 
Craig, Vancouver

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  JOHN REID 
  Vintage Movie Memorabilia 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 12:42 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Paypal
  
  Hi JR
   
  The amount was only 16.99 but I was more 
  concerned that someone else could be caught this way over a large transaction. 
  Lets say a US seller se

[MOPO] USPS delivery to western Canada

[Craig Goebel]

Title: Message




Wondering what has happened to the items that I have purchased from US 
buyers in the last month or so, I was about to initiate contact with each of 
them who used USPS to see whether there was a prospective delivery time / date. 
Before doing so I was made privy to the following information.
 
This morning in the Vancouver "Sun"  daily newspaper there was a brief 
article advising that the USPS had apparently unilaterally decided to route all 
parcels destined for western Canada (presumbaly from Manitoba to British 
Columbia) through Vancouver's main post office!  As a result of this 
decision there has been an ongoing backup of parcels required to go through 
Canada Customs, so much so that there are now in excess of 150,000 parcels 
waiting for clearance; Canada Customs states that it hopes to clear these 
parcels before Christmas(!). 
 
So, a parcel sent from Green Bay to Winnipeg is now not going through a 
direct or even mid-west US route, but is going to the west coast then back east 
- incredible but true, sadly. Who knows what protocols are in place in these 
circumstances for parcels to be lined-up to wait to clear Customs. 
 
If the time estimate is accurate and there is the usual rush for parcels 
being sent for Christmas, then it is likely that these too will fall well 
behind. 
 
The backup also means the 30 day so-called "protections" for fraud or 
non-delivery offered by ebay, Paypal and others, such as they are - could 
probably be "frustrated", which in contract law generally means useless and 
inaccessible due to circumstances not in the parties' control and not the 
parties' fault.
 
As if the whole delivery "thing" weren't fraught enough. 
 
Patience and perhaps a tracking number on all more recent purchases might 
be a comfort though more costly.
 
Craig, Vancouver
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Re: [MOPO] A Tale of Two Feedback Ratings

[Craig Goebel]

 

  
  JR - I'm not being coy, just careful. 
   
  But, if some members of the list buy dvds they can ask me 
  and by-the-way dvdforfun611 has been booted. 
   
  If some members buy Turkish posters, then I'd be 
  pleased to advise them. 
   
  Interestingly, anyone thinking of buying from 
  salamon34 might want to check the feedback: Score 863 / 97.1% 
  / Members who left a negative: 27 / Past Month -3 / Past 6 Months -10 
  / Past 12 Months -11 / neutrals total 14
  


   
  
   
  
  It seems with some sellers there are always some 
  random buyers who don't get anything nor any communication. Strange how 
  that is. Never enough problems to warrant scrutiny let alone action by ebay, 
  but enough to warrant caution. 
   
  Craig
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
J R 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 10:40 
AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] A Tale of Two 
Feedback Ratings

I do wish Craig would post the names of sellers he knows are bad. Why 
only offer to provide them privately? Why not let everyone know? Why would 
you protect these sellers? They are not going to sue you for mentioning 
their seller names on MOPO, even if they read MOPO, which is highly 
unlikely.
 
In the case of the magically re-appearing seller, it does sound like 
eBay is trying pretty hard to stop this guy. it was pointed out that 
they booted him, then he comes back the next day under a different name and 
they boot him again, yet he comes back the next day under yet another name. 
It seems eBay is booting him as soon as they become aware of him operating 
under a new name. This is actually pretty good reaction time for eBay -- 
which usually waits months to take action (if they ever do).
 
The problem is sheer volume. There are probably 1 million items PER DAY 
being listed on eBay. How would you check each one for fraud or repetition 
of phrases used in previous fraudulent descriptions? Virtually impossible to 
go through them all and then have humans evaluate them against past problems 
-- at least in any reasonable time.
 
If the seller has registered a bunch of different names with eBay, that 
makes it really tough. How are they to know that the new seller name is the 
same person as the old outlawed name? At least at first. 
 
In theory, they should be able to identify these people by the credit 
card number that they have to provide in order to be a seller. In practice, 
it appears these bad guy sellers have access to a whole lot of different 
credit card numbers and have no trouble coming up with a new one for each 
new seller name they create.
 
It's pretty scary and the only real solution is to deal either with 
sellers you know to be safe from past transactions or to at least make sure 
the feedback on a seller you are trying for the first time is way up there 
in the 99.5% and above area. It should be closers to 99.8% if the 
seller has  thousands of feedbacks. There should only be one or 
two negatives and they should not be the serious "non-delivery" kind. I know 
this approach really penalizes newbie sellers, but that's unavoidable in the 
kind of mass-market mess and free for all that eBay has become.
 
Sure, you will have to pass up some "real bargains" with this approach 
-- which is a shame -- but on the other hand, it is the "real bargains" that 
the crooks dangle in front of people in their bogus auctions to lure them 
in.
 
-- JR
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 
  10:43
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] A Tale of Two 
  Feedback Ratings
  forget about feedback ratings-look at the crooks 
  mgagalli sells dvds and gets booted the very next day the 
  exact ad appears under the name stereoproductions  and is so 
  brazen that  mgagalli@  I forgot the internet address is listed 
  in the description. then steroproductions gets booted off and the 
  very next day the same ad appears under   seller name 
    tyguyz this seller lists a huge amount of dvds daily 
  and who knows how many other sellers do the same thing.   To 
  make matters worse, I bought dvds from mgagalli and the auction was 
  cancelled.  I had already paid with paypal but pay was not notified 
  by ebay and the money was given to the seller.  I called him and was 
  told they had been shipped and I did receive them.  However, what if 
  he did not ship them.  Paypal is owned by ebay, their auction sales 
  ask you to pay immediately and are coordinated but lo and behold, are they 
  coordinated when the reverse happens.  Of course not.  You are 
  now on your own trying to get your money bac

Re: [MOPO] A Tale of Two Feedback Ratings

[Craig Goebel]

 
I recently, among many others, had dealings with a dvd and a 
poster seller both of whom, like some other international sellers, hid behind 
the minor flaws in the world-wide delivery systems, to both deny the receipt of 
mailed payment and disavow my claim for nonreceipt of items. I 
can provide names privately. As disturbing as the 
do-nothing attitude of ebay is the inability to prevent 
the re-emergence of someone in a different guise to cause trouble. I have 
little doubt the rip-off dvd seller now kicked off will come back with a new 
name. The poster seller is still at it.
 
Outside Canada, the US, western Europe 
and Australia much care should be had to check sellers' feedback 
for persistent nonreceipt on both sides of the delivery transaction; 
this can also happen with sellers who take Paypal.  
 
Another issue that irks buyers are terms for payment 
and delivery that are so dense as to be incomprehensible and do more to 
prevent interest from blossoming than encourage bidding. Simply put: the buyer 
must agree to pay for all the elements of delivery before delivery. Many sellers 
refuse to acknowledge that their receipt of this money should be in 
trust for the seller and should be expended solely on proper packaging and 
shipping. More often than not, with these sellers, the actual costs of delivery 
including packaging and handling (materials and travel to the PO) are much less 
than the amount demanded. Of course this is to reduce ebay's commissions on the 
amount of the sale price. But because so many sellers do this, it skews the 
market and the forces at work in selecting sellers. I usually shy away from the 
back-end-cost-build-up sellers. 
 
Fortunately the original movie paper sellers with whom I deal 
have delivery costs that are the actual costs, all used in favour of the 
buyer. Having a proper business model does wonders for customer 
loyalty.
 
Craig, Vancouver

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bruce 
  Hershenson 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 6:55 
  AM
  Subject: [MOPO] A Tale of Two Feedback 
  Ratings
  Look at my (emovieposter.com's) eBay feedback 
  rating (14,440) and "Positive Feedback" score (99.9%) and compare it with that 
  of "superposters", which is 12,849 and 97.8%. They seem very close to 
  each other, in both numbers, and I would think most casual eBay users would 
  think we are similar sellers in terms of volume of sales and customer 
  satisfaction, WHICH IS JUST WHAT EBAY WANTS THEM TO THINK.Look closer. 
  I have 95,258 total feedbacks, indicating that a huge percentage of my buyers 
  have gone on to buy many times. Superposters has 15,831 total feedbacks, 
  indicating a tiny percentage of their buyers have ever bought even one more 
  time.Look at negatives and neutrals. In the six months, I have 17,728 
  feedbacks, and I received one negative and no neutrals in that time, and going 
  back a full year I have received 34,513 feedbacks, and have received 3 
  negatives and 7 neutrals. In the past six months, superposters has received 
  1,470 feedbacks, and they received 21 negative and 38 neutrals in that time, 
  and going back a full year they have received 4,311 feedbacks, and have 
  received a whopping 156 negatives and 89 neutrals!So these two sellers 
  are about as different as night and day in every possible way, and yet eBay 
  purposely presents the data in such a way as to cover up the differences as 
  much as possible. Why? I contend it is because they are more concerned with 
  making money than with screening their site in any way, and so they not only 
  don't kick off bad sellers, they go out of their way to help them find more 
  victims, so as to increase their "bottom line"!I believe this is a 
  major flaw in eBay that surely will greatly hurt them in the long run. I don't 
  believe you can run a business where you gather together sellers, and you do 
  next-to-nothing to stop the dishonest ones. Eventually, as word gets out, the 
  site is sure to be overrun with thieving sellers. I hope eBay wakes up before 
  it is too late!Note that I am not posting this message to boast about 
  how good my feedback is, but rather to point up what I think is a terrible 
  flaw in the eBay system.  Imagine a shopping mail where they rented some 
  of their stores to outright crooks who sold fake items as real.  Imagine 
  that when you discovered you had been cheated you reported to the mall owners 
  that you had been cheated in their mall, and their response was that they 
  didn't care!  How often would you return to that mall, and how long do 
  you think it would be before the mall went out of business?If this was 
  not the Internet, there would be a criminal investigation of how eBay allows 
  crooks to operate freely.  But because politicians are afraid to be seen 
  as "anit-Internet", no one does anything, which is a 
  shame.Bruce 
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Re: [MOPO] Where have all the sellers gone, long time passing

[Craig Goebel]

Some months ago in Bruce's club email, there were consensus 
lists of better and apparently less-so poster sellers, the total for each 
of which was about 10 or so. I have been looking at posters for 3 1/2 years on 
ebay mostly and elsewhere and there seem (to me) to be far fewer than the 
number of sellers Bruce has been patronising. For me, by my trials and 
errors, there are really only some in North America, England, Australia and 
one or two in Europe with whom I feel reasonably comfortable dealing (certainly 
not some Turkish vendors). These good sellers have consistently 
been fair in their descriptions, pricing, shipping, etc. 
 
Given there is a finite amount of good, i.e., for type, 
age, condition, titles, product that is available, whether there are still some 
vast amounts of paper in warehouses or not, sooner than later collectors, not 
dealers, with specific notions (obsessions) will fulfill 
their desires. Some dealers are now moving Pakistani posters, more 
than regular product (having less conventional product?) and maybe that's a 
good thing, I pass no judgment on that.
 
Or, maybe what Bruce is experiencing, aside from a diminution 
of posters / sellers or a change of products, is that his collection 
is topping up. 
 
My collection certainly is, even after just 3 years; for 
instance, I have been collecting John Wayne posters and when 
I looked through Bruce's Duke auction I realised that quite a few of 
them were not particularly pleasing (to me), so I'll never have a complete 
collection, nor now wish to. I'll end up with fewer posters, unless I 
augment the types of themes, actors, genres of posters I might 
want.
 
But consider how many posters from movies starring Lancaster, 
Douglas, Hepburn, Tracy, Monroe, Brando, et 
al. are esthetically-challenged. Name five movie posters from 
Dustin Hoffman's or DeNiro's movies that anyone would really want. Think of 
how small each of Kubrick's, McQueen's or Peckinpah's ouvre really is. 
Aside from Cleopatra who'd want many of Taylor's or Burton's movies' posters. 

 
I've made the comment before that much of the poster art in 
the last two decades and longer is mediocre photography, designed to attract and 
last no more than a month. So the artistic elements, such as those in older 
posters that are attractive, in addition to a poster being 
commemorative of a fond, perhaps profound, experience they have had, are not 
there. More than just the content of the 
iconclastic, sometimes bombastic, auteur-driven and realised 
flicks of the 70's and earlier has been lost with the ascendency of egregious 
first-weekend-then-50%-drop-off-less-than-one-month-in-the-theatre "tent-pole" 
pix and their photo-posters. You can't nourish the hobby through younger people 
if what they have to go on is the Matrix posters for heaven's sake!
 
 
 
A regular lament of some dealers is that there seems not to be 
a large pool of people in or entering the movie poster collecting hobby. But an 
"echo-boomer" kid growing up on Topher Grace TV is not likely to be looking for 
an original The Manchurian Candidate poster (and less so for the remake poster!) 
or anything else that antedates ID4, because they mostly don't know those 
earlier eras (50's, 60's, 70's) for squatting in front of the computer 
playing execution games or being toted around to team sports by their parents. 

 
If you want "bad girl" or horror or sci-fi, there's 
more of that stuff being sold by more people than there is of Elvis's posters, 
so the array of product and purveyors (good, bad, mediocre) is wider. But 
the boomer age group, who are often the kids' parents, driving the 
hobby now, has eclectic and limited interests.  Once you have your four 
decent Ann-Margret posters, if the wife let's you display them at all, where are 
you going to go - not likely to Jane Fonda (Barbarella only) - but Sophia, 
Verna, Jayne, 4 posters among them? So maybe MM, but her 4 are too 
expensive, with health insurance to buy. It's a finite older group of 
collectors, either with narrow interests or chasing too few pieces of the same 
thing. 
 
AND the group members' tastes for collecting 
will change and to whom is that group going to sell posters anyway: 
their peers' and friends' rapper wanna-be, X-box progeny? (I don't think 
so).  But the studios don't care about movies past 
making money during the first couple of weeks when their cut's the largest and 
the best flicks are frozen out to poster-less flim festivals the advertising for 
which is catalogs.
 
Ah! Fudge it! 
 
Let's see if I can help move some produce: Does anyone have a 
style B Barbarella or an Alien advance? How about a Saskatchewan one sheet or an 
original Perri?
 
Craig, Vancouver
 
 - Original Message - 

  From: 
  Bruce 
  Hershenson 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 8:53 
  PM
  Subject: [MOPO] Where have all the 
  sellers gone, long time passing
  I used to check a group of eBay sellers on

Re: [MOPO] Incomplete Listings -- My Pet Peeve

[Craig Goebel]

Since ebay must extract 95%+ of its revenue from (buyers via) 
sellers, from their auction end amounts, having eliminated categories 
regularly, why, in its obvious enlightened fiscal 
self-interest, would it persist in doing so, if it 
(apparently) reduces revenues? Craig, Vancouver

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bruce Hershenson 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 6:32 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Incomplete Listings 
  -- My Pet Peeve
  All the higher-ups at eBay told me was that the elimination of 
  poster categories was "on the schedule for early 2005".  Those of you who 
  think eBay is a disorganized mess now won't believe the confusion that will 
  set in when this takes place.  If posters are anything like books or 
  records, then most dealers' sales will drop by 90% for a few months.  No 
  fooling.BruceAt 02:40 AM 8/16/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  Bruce, You're right 
of course, there is a definite "style" to some descriptions that one can 
learn to recognize as a give-away to avoid clicking on them. I do have to 
sort-of apologize publicly to Jim Dietz, however. He pointed out to me 
privately that all of the listing of his which "triggered" my little rant 
were listed only in the appropriate Lobby Card section of eBay. I didn't 
realize that since I went to his listing pages directly by clicking on the 
link he had provided in his MoPo post. So, actually, he was being pretty 
straightforward in his Titles if they were only listed in the Lobby Card 
category and nowhere else. But putting in an identifier is 
going to become critical for everyone, isn't it? I mean, what the heck else 
are people going to do when eBay eliminates all the of the poster 
sub-categories and lumps everything into one gigantic "Movie Poster" 
category? Are they still planning to do such a terrible thing -- and if so, 
when?  I think you mentioned a target date a while back, but I've 
forgotten what it is. -- JRnote: replied all 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bruce 
  Hershenson 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 1:09
  Subject: [MOPO] Incomplete Listings -- My Pet Peeve
  JR
  You just have to learn to read between the lines!  If the listing 
  doesn't
  say "one-sheet" then there is no chance that it is one, for everyone 
  is
  proud to have a one-sheet.  If it doesn't say anything about what 
  it is,
  then it is almost surely a scene lobby card, or a herald, or a 
  still.  If
  it says "rare style" it is probably an Australian daybill.  If it 
  says
  "original" without a year then it is probably an "original" 
  reissue.  If it
  says "rare" it is virtually a certainty it ISN"T.
  Eventually you get where you can recognize some dealers just by the 
  way
  they list, and you can then just ignore them without even clicking on 
  a
  single auction!
  Bruce
  eMoviePoster.com
  JR wrote:
  Jim,
  Hey, I got a bone to pick with you -- and all the other sellers who 
  neglect
  to put LC on a lobby card listing on eBay or MoPoBid (or to put OS or 
  INS
  or HS for that matter).  I'm not just addressing you here -- but 
  I went to
  look at your noir listings and that set me off on this rant -- I'm 
  talking
  to quite a few other sellers as well (you KNOW who you are) and this 
  is
  what I want to say:
  Look, we're all busy people, right? You want us to look at your 
  listing
  pages on a regular basis? You want us to pay attention to the FA posts 
  you
  send to MoPo? Then how about helping us out and IDENTIFYING your 
  stuff
  properly in the Title of the listing, huh? I don't have time to be 
  looking
  at something I'm not going to buy, and I don't think very many other 
  people
  do these days -- not with the huge amount of material to go through 
  every
  week. You have to trust your customers to know if they want an LC an 
  OS a
  HS or an INS or whatever. Don't try to "trick" them into looking 
at
  something by not properly identifying it. That may work once or twice 
  until
  I notice what you're doing -- but what happens when I run across  
  4 or 5
  pages of listings and I see that most of them are not correctly 
  identified
  as to what type of poster they are in the title? Aw...  you 
  guessed!
  -- JR
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Re: [MOPO] Who owns the rights to a poster?

[Craig Goebel]

It seems a bit odd for anyone who actually 
has  comprehensive permission to release the dvd to not have 
contracted for the collorary rights like those for related packaging or to have 
tried and failed to do so. I would wonder then why that seemingly obvious 
element was not part of the package, if I were the person to whom recourse was 
being had for use of a poster: did the copyright owners demur? In that case 
my use of others' poster images for 
commercial purposes (even if I got nothing) would open me up to an action. This 
sort of issue is what is most often behind the failure to release all those 
so-called OOP and rare-cult movies like The 300 Spartans (which was thisclose to 
a dvd release last year when someone or someone's estate demurred for image use 
and payment, music usage, etc. and that ended that).
 
Who owns the rights is not the question if you do 
not. 
 
But check out the copyright laws of the relevant countries: if 
all of the poster's rights owners have had their rights lapse, then that's 
a different issue. 
 
Generally the use of copyright material for 
educational or merely incidental to other (commercial) use is 
usually permissible under most countries copyright laws. This is how the images 
can be placed in texts and in catalogs for sale of the poster (not for sale 
of the dvd!) without having to reimburse the copyright owners. Craig, 
Vancouver

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Robert D. Brooks 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:43 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Who owns the rights 
  to a poster?
  I've had a couple distributors come calling about using images 
  of my postersin their DVD's.  I just sent them to Bruce (saying he 
  probably already hadthe images they wanted - and professionally 
  photographed to boot)...Bruce (or Nourmand, or a few others) would be 
  the ones to ask.  I have afeeling that they don't license the images 
  for their books (or there'd be apage in all their books listing copyrights 
  and permissions for each imageand studio).  Wasn't it not too long 
  ago Bruce posted here saying somethingto the effect of:  "I can do 
  whatever I want with a photograph of MYposter."???I'd love to know 
  all the legalities myself?Good day all,Bob- 
  Original Message -From: "Lynch Posters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: 
  Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:01 AMSubject: [MOPO] Who owns the rights to a 
  poster?>I was contacted by a distribution company today that is 
  releasing two David> Lynch films on DVD for the foreign market. They 
  enquired about using> several> of the foreign posters on my 
  website for either the cover, the insert or> the> DVD 
  extras.>> This brought up the question of who owns the rights to 
  a movie poster?> (Domestic posters, re-releases, foreign posters, 
  re-issues, etc, etc)> Who owns the rights to an image of a movie 
  poster?>> In the post NSS era, it seems obvious that the studio 
  releasing the film,> likley commissioned the production and printing of 
  the poster and would> have> the rights to it. Examples of Disney 
  posters and perhaps Miramax seem> relatively clear, especially with 
  their small print disclaminers. But what> about the Polish version of 
  "WIld At Heart" or the German A1 for "Lost> Highway"? What about my 
  personal photograph of these poster?>> Any 
  thoughts?>>> Lynch Posters>> Specializing 
  in US and Foreign posters from the films of David Lynch.>> www.LynchPosters.com>> 
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Re: [MOPO] [Style-b] eBay allows people to HIDE feedback now? (!)

[Craig Goebel]

While the concept of hidden feedback 
seems antithetical to good relations among users - buyers and sellers - if you 
ask these private feedback folks to see their feedback, which is there, 
behind the scrim of "private", and it's not worthy of reliance then a more 
informed decision can be made. (Not all are doing this to perpetrate scams or 
avoid actual scrutiny.) If they decline to be forthcoming, then they 
are a must to avoid. I have had good dealings with a few "private" 
folks (and even some whose f/b is below 98%). But why they do this is 
actually more than a bit obtuse, because enlightened fiscal self-interest 
suggests the first and perhaps better response is to just not deal and not 
investigate, so they lose custom and are blocked from bidding. Craig, 
Vancouver

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Susan 
  Heim 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 3:55 
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  Subject: Re: [MOPO] [Style-b] eBay allows 
  people to HIDE feedback now? (!)
  
  
  Dear JR,
     I totally agree. I was going to bid on something last week 
  and went to have a look at the person's feedback and there it was "hidden". 
  I'm thinking, "why have feedback, if you can hide it". I can't even understand 
  the concept. It's like our past governor voting to give illegal aliens valid 
  California driver's licenses. I mean, isn't there something wrong with this 
  picture. 
   
  Sue Heim
  
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MessageI dunno... I guess I just don't pay close enough 
attention -- but when the heck did eBay start allowing users the option to 
HIDE their feedback? I just had someone bid on one of my sci-fi pulp 
auctions on eBay and I look at the bid and see that instead of a feedback 
score showing up next to the user name like normal, instead there is the 
word "(private)" displayed!So I went in and cancelled the guy's bid 
-- even if eBay thinks it is OK for a user to hide their feedback, I won't 
be allowing those who do to bid on my stuff, nope... sorry.What is 
the point of having a public feedback system if you're going to allow people 
to hide their feedback from view?Exasperated minds want to 
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