Re: [MOSAIC] at home reading

2012-08-29 Thread Joy Ramirez
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Livingston, Marie 
mlivings...@ttsd.k12.or.us wrote:

 My 5th grade team is looking for a way to revamp our students' at home
 reading assignment/expectations.  We have asked students to read 20 minutes
 a night and write a brief summary.  What we've noticed is that some
 students continually read the same book or their summaries are boring.  A
 while back there was a similar question posted and someone spoke of goal
 setting they did with their students around pages read.  I want them to
 want to read and not just go through the motions. We would love any
 suggestions!

 thanks!
 Marie

 Marie Livingston
 5th Grade Teacher
 Tualatin Elementary School
 503-431-4764
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[MOSAIC] Visual Impairment

2011-08-31 Thread Joy
Hi. In addition to a much larger class this year, one of my students has a 
visual impairment that requires her to use Braille to read. I am struggling 
with how to teach her, as I don't have lessons written that are concrete enough 
for the VI teacher who comes to our school to help the student for 2 hours 
daily. (We don't have text books or work books.) This teacher wants detailed 
lessons, which I cannot provide, as I conference with students individually 
about their skills and strategies. She has told me that is not good enough, 
that she needs more concrete lessons. How can I do this? I don't work with the 
student, and have no idea what kind of skills she needs to read Braille. I also 
cannot spend hours each day writing plans to teach this teacher. G I feel 
like such a whiny baby. Anyone have any ideas? 
 
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[MOSAIC] OT - Four Blocks Conference

2010-09-12 Thread Joy
I used to post here frequently, but haven't in over a year. I do read posts 
from 
time to time. I hope this doesn't go against the list rules.

My school is sending all of our teachers to the Four Blocks Conference on 
Friday, and I wonder if anyone from this list will also attend? I'd love to 
meet 
you if you are! We can talk about Mosaic of Thought and how we can use it 
within 
the Four Blocks Framework. 


Send me a message off the list and we can make arrangements!

 
Joy/NC/4


  

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Re: [MOSAIC] Fluency

2010-03-10 Thread Joy Milner
My school district has also used Read Naturally, Quick Reads, and  
Fluency First.



On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Yingling wrote:

Does anyone know of an intervention program proven to improve  
fluency in upper elementary grades?  Right now we have Soar to  
Success and Great Leaps. But, these programs aren't helping our 4th/ 
5th grade fluency.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jenni

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Re: [MOSAIC] logging in

2009-07-05 Thread Joy
Lori,
Did you see the link in Keith's message? I highlighted it in greeen. You have 
to scroll all the way down.


 
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From: Ljackson ljack...@gwtc.net
To: km...@literacyworkshop.org, Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies 
Email Group mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 9:01:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] logging in

Keith (or anyone who may know...), how do I go about changing my email to 
continue to participate in this group?



Lori Jackson
District Literacy Coach and Mentor
Todd County School District
Box 87
Mission SD 5755

- Original message -
From: Keith Mack km...@literacyworkshop.org
To: 'Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group' 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Date: Friday, July 03, 2009  1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] logging in

 Before we get any more password requests, please don't send this type of
 message to the entire list. Requests about your personal information need to
 go to me or Jennifer or Ginger.
 
 We can NOT change your password. Only you can do this. You can request that
 your password be sent to you by taking the link at the bottom of every list
 message. The link is:
 http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org.
 Once you log in at this link you will find a section at the bottom of the
 page regarding changing of password.
 
 I would kindly suggest those of you that have requested passwords take the
 responsibility to change all of your passwords as soon as possible. This is
 a public list and your information could be found by ne'er-do-wells. 
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-07-03 Thread Joy
Renee,
You make such a good point, and I'm learning how true it is to step back and 
let the kids. lead me. It is astounding when you do this. This year I am going 
to try more and more to do this, making my lessons as mini as possible, 
allowing the students increasing amounts of time to actually DO what I am 
teaching them. As much as possible I am going to turn to inquiry, which I 
believe to be one of the major components of learning and understanding. Even 
my rubrics are going to have direct student input. 

 
Joy/NC/4
  

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hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 2:43:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

I'm glad my points felt so awesome to you. And we are all going to want to see 
how this works out. :-)

Here is a little more of my thinking:  I belong to a book sharing group (which 
I started, and for which I was very selective on the people involved). There 
are about eight of us and we meet once a month. We all read whatever we want 
and then come together to just share what we've read, whatever it is. Name a 
genre and at least one of us has read and shared. What's interesting though, is 
that with all the sharing of what's in the books and our impressions, we have 
also branched out into discussions of politics, religion, local issues, 
specific authors, death, Alzheimer's (one person in our group lost a husband to 
this insidious disease and we all shared the grief from its onset to his 
passing a couple of years later), food, art, . in other words you name 
it. Boy, do we make connections!

What I'm thinking is that the book sharing part. voluntary sharing is 
so valuable and so complex and can teach so much.

I was just thinking a while ago that some of the best teaching I've done was 
when I was not teaching at all.

:-)
Renee


On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Mark  Rachele' Thummel wrote:

 Renee--You make several AWESOME points--thank you!  I do need to change my 
 thinking on the whole silent reading approach and see it as an advantage.  I 
 guess I get frustrated with teachers who I see using that time to get things 
 done--which is not what I have chosen to do with that time when I've given 
 it in the past.   Also, I just see so many of these struggling readers 
 lacking in basic comprehension skills, so I've decided in the past to replace 
 that silent reading time with a more structured approach. Students are 
 certainly doing a lot of reading in this approach, but not as much 
 self-selected--which is what I want them to get hooked on.   Many middle 
 schools have 2 periods to teaching reading and writing . . . whereas I'm 
 limited to just one.  So this is an added complication to make it through my 
 curriculum.  I'd love to add another class . . . but it might be a struggle.
 
 Then of course there are the students who are scrambling to find a book two 
 minutes before class and reading something different every time.  So I'm 
 thinking that if I restructure my approach to silent reading, I might get 
 better results.  I'm planning on doing a coffee shop format with my 9th 
 graders this year--allowing them a modified reading time.  I thought that I 
 would alternate weeks--one day a week they would silent read self-selected 
 materials and the next week they would share in a group with 
 coffee/cocoa/cider?!  We have gender-grouped our 9th graders, so I will have 
 23 girls.  I have never taught to just one gender, but since I will be doing 
 this, I thought I'd try to make it a bit girlie.  Thank you for your ideas!
 
 --
 From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:54 AM
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading
 
 Hi there Mark and/or Rachele'
 
 I think one of the reasons that some teachers struggle with the concept of 
 SSR is that it seems like wasted time or time not well spent or time 
 that is better used for something more explicit and direct and I see that 
 coming through in your comment that having SSR on one day a  week would add 
 up to almost 7 weeks of silent reading in class.  But  here's a thought 
 that's a GREAT use of seven weeks! Time for  students to learn to enjoy 
 reading on their own... something that will  stay with them forever, 
 something that might turn some non-readers into  readers (and I'm not 
 talking about competency, I'm talking about  choice). But if it were me, I 
 would turn it around, and have the SSR  day be on Monday instead of Friday, 
 because then the reading on Monday  could serve as personal information from 
 each student to add to  whatever

Re: [MOSAIC] Book Talks/was Silent Sustained Reading

2009-07-02 Thread Joy
Oh yes! The sharing makes the difference! It must be structured just right, 
though. The classroom environment is so important, as is the students preparing 
themselves. So much critical thinking goes into booktalks. And, like Heather, 
my students listen to the recommendations of their peers.

 
Joy/NC/4
 
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hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: Heather Green heath...@gmail.com
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 8:11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

I think it has to be more than just SSR. SSR has to be the basis of your
classroom.  It has to created this undercurrent of a love of books and good
stories.  So just as important as silent reading time, I think is sharing
time.  I know I have read a lot of good books because people have
recommended them to me. Plus, it's more fun to read a book that you know
someone else has read so you can talk about it . So I think as part of SSR,
students should be able to spotlight books, and you should as well.  There
are some great examples of these booktalks in the book Readicide, or is it
The Reading Zone, I can't remember which one.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Mark  Rachele' Thummel 
mrthum...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I have also thoroughly enjoyed the book group that I belong to and have
 been thinking about it a lot as I get ready to approach my 9th grade English
 class of girls.  I have made great connections with women that I didn't know
 very well, and it's been great for me to get away from home to talk with
 intelligent women about all sorts of topics.  I love thinking about reading
 a new book each month. . . and I'd like to establish an environment where my
 students (girls next year) WANT to come to book group to share and listen.

 Jan--thanks for the link to Gardiner . . . I'm going to definitely look
 into that!  I like the analogy of reading and running--as a runner myself, I
 seriously suffer if I don't train on a daily level.  I can't imagine running
 5 miles just once a week!  So I can see the connection of establishing good
 reading habits through consistent and daily reading.  I just still struggle
 with the concept of only having 40 minutes left to cover reading strategies,
 vocabulary, and all the writing elements that are in my curriculum . . . .
 I'm going to take the summer to think about this!  Further ideas are
 certainly helpful:)
 --
 From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:43 AM

 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

  I'm glad my points felt so awesome to you. And we are all going to want to
 see how this works out. :-)

 Here is a little more of my thinking:  I belong to a book sharing group
 (which I started, and for which I was very selective on the people
 involved). There are about eight of us and we meet once a month. We all read
 whatever we want and then come together to just share what we've read,
 whatever it is. Name a genre and at least one of us has read and shared.
 What's interesting though, is that with all the sharing of  what's in the
 books and our impressions, we have also branched out into discussions of
 politics, religion, local issues, specific authors,  death, Alzheimer's (one
 person in our group lost a husband to this  insidious disease and we all
 shared the grief from its onset to his  passing a couple of years later),
 food, art, . in other words  you name it. Boy, do we make
 connections!

 What I'm thinking is that the book sharing part. voluntary sharing
 is so valuable and so complex and can teach so much.

 I was just thinking a while ago that some of the best teaching I've  done
 was when I was not teaching at all.

 :-)
 Renee


 On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Mark  Rachele' Thummel wrote:

  Renee--You make several AWESOME points--thank you!  I do need to  change
 my thinking on the whole silent reading approach and see it as  an
 advantage.  I guess I get frustrated with teachers who I see using  that
 time to get things done--which is not what I have chosen to do  with that
 time when I've given it in the past.   Also, I just see so  many of these
 struggling readers lacking in basic comprehension  skills, so I've decided
 in the past to replace that silent reading  time with a more structured
 approach. Students are certainly doing a  lot of reading in this approach,
 but not as much self-selected--which  is what I want them to get hooked
 on.   Many middle schools have 2  periods to teaching reading and writing .
 . . whereas I'm limited to  just one.  So this is an added complication to
 make it through my  curriculum.  I'd love to add another class . . . but it
 might

Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-06-30 Thread Joy
I think SSR is one of the most powerful tools I have as a teacher. While the 
children are reading, I'm conferencing with them one on one, and since I go to 
them, the other students near them get to eavesdrop on our discussion. This 
helps me build a relationship with the student as well as giving me a peek at 
his or her abilities and progress.

As far as student's who are not reading, they get a daily conference because 
that points to me that there is a problem of some kind that needs my attention. 
 Sometimes it's not a reading problem, but a cry for attention. I give it to 
them because I figure if they need the additional instructional time, great. If 
they need behavioral guidance, great. At any rate, they get the attention they 
need and soon I have a quiet class.

 
Joy/NC/4
 
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hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org






From: Ginger Anderson gingerander...@sbcglobal.net
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mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:35:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

Yes! If kids are actually reading - and I have to say all but two of my fourth 
graders truly would get lost in their books daily. It gives them a chance to 
use the skills that they are taught. They get to read favorite books and they 
love to talk about and recommend books to friends. It points me toward new 
mini-lessons.





From: linz...@aol.com linz...@aol.com
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:01:00 PM
Subject: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

As teachers, do?you think that Silent Sustained Reading improves?individual 
reading scores on standardized tests??
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Re: [MOSAIC] Just Finished Readacide and The Reading Zone What do you think t...

2009-06-29 Thread Joy
Jennifer,
Count me in. I am busy too, but will  find a way - somehow. It seems the busier 
I am the more I can accomplish. Email me off list so we can discuss the 
parameters. I wonder if anyone else would be interested in helping us.



 
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From: cnjpal...@aol.com cnjpal...@aol.com
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:19:58 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Just Finished Readacide and The Reading Zone What do you 
think t...


Joy
I would love for the discussion to begin again...I could use some help  
moderating though. I am teaching summer school and am taking classes this 
summer  so I have a pretty full plate. I do think Ellins' book is something 
everyone  should read and discussion only enriches its messages.
Jennifer
In a message dated 6/28/2009 10:15:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jwidm...@rocketmail.com writes:

You can  also read the archives from our two rounds discussing it, as 
Jennifer  suggested. Maybe there's enough interest to go at it again? It is 
really a  valuable book with great implications for the classroom, to me even 
more than  Mosaic of Thought.


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Re: [MOSAIC] art and literacy

2009-06-29 Thread Joy
Oh my FAVORITE book! (Actually, as I was growing up I loved any book about 
running away!)

I remember reading it when I was in 4th grade, and then when I actually got to 
go to the museum in 8th grade I was astounded! Connections popping all over the 
place. I even took the book with me! LOL, I guess I was even a geek back then!

 
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From: craigz...@aol.com craigz...@aol.com
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:58:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] art and literacy

Caitlin,
I couldn't help but mention a wonderful book called From the Mixed-Up Files 
of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler by Elaine Konigsburg.  If you live anywhere in 
the New York City area, it's a great introduction to the Metropolitan 
Museum of Art.  I've used this book with 5th and 6th graders and they loved it. 
 

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Re: [MOSAIC] Running Record/Reading Level Question(s)

2009-06-28 Thread Joy
Not a book, but here are some links:

http://www.edutopia.org/visual-thinking-strategies-art-curriculum


http://www.vtshome.org/
 

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From: caitlin fairclough caitlinann...@gmail.com
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:26:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Running Record/Reading Level Question(s)

Thanks Lori, if you find out the title let me know!
- Caitlin

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Ljackson ljack...@gwtc.net wrote:

 Hmmm... there is this terrific book out there that uses visual art to teach
 thinking strategies but everything we own is pretty much in boxes right
 now...anyone know the book?



 Lori Jackson
  District Literacy Coach and Mentor
  Todd County School District
  Box 87
  Mission SD 5755

 - Original message -
 From: caitlin fairclough caitlinann...@gmail.com
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009  6:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Running Record/Reading Level Question(s)

  I am a huge advocate for incorporating art in the classroom as much as
  possible.  I don't feel that students have enough exposure to the arts.
   ...Art is my passion..How can you bring art and literacy together??
 
 
  Thanks
  -Caitlin
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Re: [MOSAIC] Just Finished Readacide and The Reading Zone What do you think the implications are...

2009-06-28 Thread Joy
You can also read the archives from our two rounds discussing it, as Jennifer 
suggested. Maybe there's enough interest to go at it again? It is really a 
valuable book with great implications for the classroom, to me even more than 
Mosaic of Thought.

 
Joy/NC/4
 
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hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: Heather Green heath...@gmail.com
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:53:59 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Just Finished Readacide and The Reading Zone What do you 
think the implications are...

I will check that book out. Thank you.

On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Susanne Lee susannelee...@yahoo.comwrote:

 What about the book To Understand by Ellin Keene.   I have jus started
 reading it.   The theme of it is how to we teach kids to make sense of what
 they are reading and is teaching just the strategies enough to help them
 understand.

 --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Heather Green heath...@gmail.com wrote:



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[MOSAIC] OT- Looking for a teaching position?

2009-06-26 Thread Joy

FYI - (sorry for the cross posts)
Anyone looking for a teaching position:

My school has one second grade position, and one part time PE position 
available.
For more information about Crosscreek, click on the link or paste
http://www.crosscreekcharterschool.com into your browser. Information about the 
school and the positions
available can be found there. We are about 45 min to an hour from
Raleigh, NC.

 
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Cunningham Debbie Miller

2009-06-25 Thread Joy

Everything I do in literacy refers back to the work of these two. While many 
others wrote about the workshop approach, to me they provided me with a clear 
picture of exactly how this looks, sounds, and feels. I cannot imagine what my 
class would be like without the routines and procedures they helped me 
establish. They taught me that this can and should be a joyful experience.

Joy/4/NC





In a message dated 6/24/2009 9:25:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
gradeagr...@gmail.com writes:

Hi all!  I am a student taking a literacy course and have taught 5th grade.
We have  just finished Cunningham  Debbie Miller's book. While it  seems
practical, how many of you actually refer back to these texts in  your
career? Thx.  Jen


  

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Re: [MOSAIC] Cunningham Debbie Miller

2009-06-25 Thread Joy

Lori,
Now here's a title I'm not familiar with! Can you tell me the author?

 
Joy/NC/4
 



A Fresh Approach to Writing


  

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Re: [MOSAIC] Synthesizing with younger ages

2009-06-23 Thread Joy

So, Carmen, how did you manage to observe my class without me knowing? LOL!

 
Joy/NC/4
 
How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org



- Original Message 
From: Carmen Matsuura mrscma...@hotmail.com
To: MOSAIC mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:48:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Synthesizing with younger ages


I had that same boy in my class this year.  I had never met someone so arrogant 
about his intellect.  Our school has humility high on our list of expectations 
and his parents and I would always talk about this.  Throughout the year he 
would cut down students, correct me, and just about die if he wasn't choosen 
first to give an answer (maybe that's why I called on him at least after five 
other students had a chance). Over the year, with pressure from myself and his 
classmates he did change a bit for the better.  The biggest change came after a 
reading group session with an EA.  The boy was in the middle of ranting about 
what he thought and how he knew he was right when he was shot down by a 
classmate and put in his place.  The girl raised her voice and told him that he 
shouldn't talk that way because everyone has their own ideas which should be 
valued.  He doesn't have to act as if he knows everything.  Mind you, this came 
from a girl who is just as
 bright as him, but is so humble and quiet.  When she speaks she always uses 
kind words.  The EA told me that the whole group cheered for her while he sat 
there with his mouth open wide.  I shared that incident with his parents and 
that I hoped that his classmate made a lasting impression on him.

 Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:31:03 -0700
 From: jwidm...@rocketmail.com
 To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Synthesizing with younger ages
 
 This particular boy's parents never got it, went to my director and 
 complained that I wasn't pushing him hard enough. She supported me. Parents 
 chilled towards me, until his test scores came back, and they were very high 
 and showed high growth.
 
 What was more important to me than test scores was how his personality 
 developed this year. He started out as a not-so-likable smart-alack, who 
 would put down others and their ideas in a heart beat. I've never met anyone 
 with such an attitude at such a young age. He thought everyone else was dumb, 
 and it was his job to correct them in the most harsh manner possible. (wonder 
 where he got that idea?) Anyway, he went from being the person least welcome 
 in a group, to neutral. I'd be more happy if others wanted him in their 
 group, but this shift was huge for him. He still has to work on suppressing 
 that arrogance, but at least it's not automatic any more.
 
 
 
 
 Joy/NC/4
 
 How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
 hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Kathy Keyzer kkey...@carolina.rr.com
 To: beverleep...@gmail.com; Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email 
 Group mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 9:01:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Synthesizing with younger ages
 
 Amen! A dream come true would be that everyone would understand this FACT!
 
 - Original Message - From: beverleep...@gmail.com
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Synthesizing with younger ages
 
 
  And it's a dangerous habit of mind or disposition to think that all 
  learning is easy and you should never have to work To Understand. What a 
  disservice to our young minds.
  Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Joy jwidm...@rocketmail.com
  
  Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:21:10
  To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email 
  Groupmosaic@literacyworkshop.org
  Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Synthesizing with younger ages
  
  
  Sally,
  You've hit on a concept that is near and dear to my heart - approximations. 
  If more people would understand that approximations is what we're after, 
  that the growth and learning is somewhere in the approximations. It's those 
  little changes, the slight adjustments, the tiny shifts in thinking that 
  move children forward. You can't be perfect and learn at the same time, 
  is something Marv Marshall says that is so true, because if you were 
  perfect the first time, there is nothing to learn.
  
  I have this discussion with parents who are hyper-focused on their kids 
  achievement, pushing them to perfection in every task they attempt. They 
  think they are having high expectations, when in fact they aren't allowing 
  them to struggle and come to the understanding naturally.
  
  
  
  Joy/NC/4
  
  How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content 
  go hand in hand

Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm

2009-06-23 Thread Joy

OK, OK! Multi-tasking got the better of me! Ordering a new copy today, want the 
one I can write in! Kindle is def. not for me! (unless they include an 
annotations feature!)

 
Joy/NC/4
 
How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org



- Original Message 
From: creeche...@aol.com creeche...@aol.com
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:59:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm

From someone who got a chuckle out of this, and is mad about Motorcycles,  
the title is Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. 

Nancy 


In a message dated 6/21/2009 5:56:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jwidm...@rocketmail.com writes:

Zen and  the Art of Motorcycle Madness

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Re: [MOSAIC] Synthesizing with younger ages

2009-06-23 Thread Joy

Lori,
Would you please give more specific details about minutia?

 
Joy/NC/4
 
How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org



- Original Message 
From: Ljackson ljack...@gwtc.net
To: beverleep...@gmail.com, Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email 
Group mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:34:30 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Synthesizing with younger ages

Anderson and Wilhelm's research with adolescent male readers showed that kids 
WANT to feel challenged--they want to know that teachers EXPECT them to be able 
to think. What they don't want is to be overwhelmed with minutia.



Lori Jackson



 And it's a dangerous habit of mind or disposition to think that all learning 
 is easy and you should never have to work To Understand.  What a disservice 
 to our young minds.

-
 From: Joy jwidm...@rocketmail.com
 
  
 Sally,

.. . . I have this discussion with parents who are hyper-focused on their kids 
achievement, pushing them to perfection in every task they attempt. They think 
they are having high expectations, when in fact they aren't allowing them to 
struggle and come to the understanding naturally. 
 
 
  



  

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Re: [MOSAIC] themes

2009-06-21 Thread Joy
Yes, that is closer, but it has to encompass all subjects. I add in music and 
art because I value them. (our school does not have an art or music teacher)

 
Joy/NC/4
 
How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: Beverlee Paul beverleep...@gmail.com
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 11:55:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] themes

So let me take a stab at this again.  Like Oceans--Teeming with Life or
Homes and Habitats.  Is that closer?

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Joy jwidm...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 No, not for a cute sign.This is the name of my integrated thematic unit,
 and should be connected to an essential question, as well as everything we
 do. It would be connected to the literature we read, the math we do, etc.


 Joy/NC/4

 How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content
 go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org





 
 From: Beverlee Paul beverleep...@gmail.com
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 11:35:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] themes

 Joy, as I'm reading this over, I think it's dawning me on what you're
 asking, at least what I think maybe you were trying to ask us.  Are you
 maybe thinking of a slogan such as librarians, etc. put on cute bulletin
 boards?  Like at the beginning of the year when people put things by their
 door so kids can recognize their room easily?  Like Hop into our Pad, only
 not that silly?  I've now confused myself amazingly well.  I'm with
 whomever
 said to please tell us more about what you were asking.  There's something
 about the word theme that we are all defining according to our own
 schema,
 and maybe you weren't even asking anything about as deep as we're (I'm)
 thinking.  Are you thinking of a specific use for why you'd want to name a
 theme one thing or another?  Please clear up my fuzz!  Bev



 On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:28 AM, thomas sally.thom...@verizon.net wrote:

  Hi Joy, Beverlee, etc.
 
  I got some of my ideas about developing inquiry yes from Harste, Burke
 and
  Barbara Flores and others from that wonderful connected group of
 educators
  many of whom are directly connected to the Goodmans and each
 other(thinking
  here there were some great articles in the Whole Language Catalog)...But
 I
  also got ideas from Coalition of Essential Schools and maybe they were
  influenced also by the above.  Whatever, a useful way to think about
  themesespecially those that lead to an inquiry stance is to ask
  essential questions.  Find the overarching question (or several
  interrelated questions) that is rich and authentic, keeping in mind the
  interests and developmental levels of your children and yes, sometimes,
  even
  the expected curriculum at your grade level.  In other words you gain
  little by working against the science or social studies focus of your
 grade
  level per your particular state.  (Some would differ with me here and its
  not like sometimes I didn't ignore that as well)
 
  It would sometimes take me weeks to figure out what the big question was,
  one that would include the concepts and strategies and knowledge that I
  wanted to cover.  Phrasing it as a question I think automatically turns
 it
  to a sentence rather than a simple topic.  Even if you start with a
 topic,
  if you turn into a question it pushes you on that inquiry journey and to
  deeper thinking about the topic.  For example, your students would like
 to
  study horses.  Ask why do horses play such a central role in the life of
  some Native American nations?  Remember our Mosaic work and how learning
 to
  ask  good questions is more important than giving right answers??
 
  Next I think through the concepts(deeper understandings) I expect
 children
  to learn through this inquiry.  Then I figure out the critical knowledge
  that they'll work with.  Yes, knowing some stuff, some facts is
  important.
  But this forces me to narrow this down to pivotal knowledge, not just
  collections of facts, dates etc. that could be tested on a multiple
 choice
  test!
 
  Then I think through the skills and strategies they'll use to accomplish
  their inquiry - group and individual.
 
  Then and possibly throughout I consider the underlying values and
  assumptions underlying my plan and consider how they might emerge in the
  children's work.  I always ask myself the social justice, fairness kind
 of
  questions here.  How will different perspectives be privileged in this
  work?
  How will I respect the diverse children in my class and so on?
 
  Then I figure out how I will assess how we are accomplishing, whether we
  did
  accomplish (formative and summative assessment) and I run that back
 through

[MOSAIC] (no subject)

2009-06-21 Thread Joy

For some reason I'm getting posts out of order and/or delayed. Wonder what's up 
with that?

 
Joy/NC/4
 
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hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org


  

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Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm

2009-06-21 Thread Joy

Ok, let me locate my copy

 
Joy/NC/4
 
How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org



- Original Message 
From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:56:17 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm

I am definitely game, anytime.
Renee

On Jun 20, 2009, at 5:13 AM, Joy wrote:

 Me too, thanks Renee for talking about this book, and for showing me the 
 beauty of his words and thoughts. I'd even venture to say that a book talk 
 may be in order. Anybody game?


Sometimes it's a little better to travel than to arrive.
~ Robert Pirsig



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Re: [MOSAIC] themes

2009-06-21 Thread Joy

hmm, firefox can't process

 
Joy/NC/4
 
How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org



- Original Message 
From: creeche...@aol.com creeche...@aol.com
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:36:59 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] themes

Here is the Theme book list. 

_http://www.readinglady.com/mosaic/tools/A%20Profundity%20Book%20List%20for%
20Children%20by%20Deb.pdf_ 
(http://www.readinglady.com/mosaic/tools/A%20Profundity%20Book%20List%20for%20Children%20by%20Deb.pdf)
 

Nancy 


In a message dated 6/21/2009 10:30:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
creeche...@aol.com writes:

If you  look on the Mosaic Tools page, you will find some lessons on  
profundity written by Jeff Beal some time ago. I have used these in order  
to  help 
children get to theme. He might also have posted children's  literature 
that 
supports certain themes. I haven't looked it up in a  while. 

Nancy 


In a message dated 6/21/2009 9:05:45 A.M.  Eastern Daylight Time,  
jwidm...@rocketmail.com  writes:

Yes,  that is closer, but it has to encompass all  subjects. I add in music 
and art  because I value them. (our school  does not have an art or music  
teacher)


Joy/NC/4

How children learn is as important as  what  they learn: process and 
content 
go hand in hand.  http://www.responsiveclassroom.org






From:   Beverlee Paul beverleep...@gmail.com
To: Mosaic: A Reading   Comprehension Strategies Email Group  
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009  11:55:23  PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] themes

So let me take a stab  at this  again.  Like Oceans--Teeming with Life or
Homes  and  Habitats.  Is that closer?

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:52  PM, Joy  jwidm...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 No, not for a  cute  sign.This is the name of my integrated thematic unit,
 and  should be  connected to an essential question, as well as everything 

we
 do. It  would be connected to the literature we read, the  math we do,  
etc.


 Joy/NC/4

  How children learn is as  important as what they learn: process and  
content
 go hand in hand.  http://www.responsiveclassroom.org





   
 From: Beverlee Paul   beverleep...@gmail.com
 To: Mosaic: A Reading  Comprehension  Strategies Email Group 
  mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
  Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009  11:35:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC]  themes

 Joy, as  I'm reading this over, I think it's dawning me  on what you're
  asking, at least what I think maybe you were trying to  ask us.  Are  you
 maybe thinking of a slogan such as librarians,  etc. put on  cute 
bulletin
 boards?  Like at the beginning of the   year when people put things by 
their
 door so kids can recognize  their  room easily?  Like Hop into our Pad, 
only
 not  that silly?   I've now confused myself amazingly well.  I'm  with
  whomever
 said to please tell us more about what you  were asking.   There's 
something
 about the word theme  that we are all defining  according to our own
 schema,
  and maybe you weren't even asking  anything about as deep as we're  (I'm)
 thinking.  Are you thinking  of a specific use for why  you'd want to 
name 
a
 theme one thing or  another?   Please clear up my fuzz!   Bev



 On  Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:28 AM, thomas  sally.thom...@verizon.net  
wrote:

  Hi Joy,  Beverlee, etc.
  
  I got some of my ideas about  developing inquiry yes  from Harste, Burke
 and
  Barbara  Flores and others  from that wonderful connected group of
  educators
   many of whom are directly connected to the Goodmans and  each
  other(thinking
  here there were some great articles  in the  Whole Language 
Catalog)...But
 I
  also got ideas   from Coalition of Essential Schools and maybe they were
influenced also by the above.  Whatever, a useful way to think   about
  themesespecially those that lead to an inquiry  stance  is to ask
  essential questions.  Find the  overarching  question (or several
  interrelated questions)  that is rich and  authentic, keeping in mind 
the
  interests  and developmental levels  of your children and yes, 
sometimes,
   even
  the  expected curriculum at your grade  level.  In other words you  
gain
  little by working  against the science or social studies  focus of your
  grade
  level per your particular  state.  (Some would  differ with me here and 
its
  not like  sometimes I didn't  ignore that as well)
 
  It would  sometimes take  me weeks to figure out what the big question 
was,
   one  that would include the concepts and strategies and knowledge that 
  
I
  wanted to cover.  Phrasing it as a question I  think  automatically 
turns
 it
  to a sentence rather  than a simple  topic.  Even if you start with a
  topic,
  if you turn  into a question it pushes you on that  inquiry journey and 
to
   deeper thinking about the  topic.  For example, your students would  
like
  to
  study horses

Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm

2009-06-21 Thread Joy

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Madness

 
Joy/NC/4
 
How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org



- Original Message 
From: Tracy Gaestel aj...@lafn.org
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 4:53:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm

What book?  I'm intrigued

Tracy
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:04:03 -0700, Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Oh yes, you must have your own copy, for writing in the margins. I have
 three copies, myself, and that's after giving two away to my kids. If
 you do buy one, I suggest you get the *black* one with the wrench on
 the front, because the book is bigger, the print is bigger and the
 margins are wider. :-)

 Renee

 On Jun 21, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Marjory Forbes wrote:

 I'm in--I actually went to the library after reading some of the
 messages and have started reading. I suspect I will be getting my own
 copy soon.

 Margie


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Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm

2009-06-21 Thread Joy

LOL, I was talking to a friend while typing, what a slip! My hands typed what 
my mouth was saying, and the funny thing is that the conversations were totally 
different! That's what I get for multitasking!




- Original Message 
From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:42:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm

hahaha!  I love this!

But it's Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. :-)

Renee


On Jun 21, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Joy wrote:

 
 Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Madness
 
 
 Joy/NC/4
 
 How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
 hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Tracy Gaestel aj...@lafn.org
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 4:53:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm
 
 What book?  I'm intrigued
 
 Tracy
 On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:04:03 -0700, Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Oh yes, you must have your own copy, for writing in the margins. I have
 three copies, myself, and that's after giving two away to my kids. If
 you do buy one, I suggest you get the *black* one with the wrench on
 the front, because the book is bigger, the print is bigger and the
 margins are wider. :-)
 
 Renee
 
 On Jun 21, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Marjory Forbes wrote:
 
 I'm in--I actually went to the library after reading some of the
 messages and have started reading. I suspect I will be getting my own
 copy soon.
 
 Margie
 
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm

2009-06-20 Thread Joy
Me too, thanks Renee for talking about this book, and for showing me the beauty 
of his words and thoughts. I'd even venture to say that a book talk may be in 
order. Anybody game?

 
Joy/NC/4
 
How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: thomas sally.thom...@verizon.net
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 2:40:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm

I am just going to finally have to read it!  Too many people I admire have
loved it over and over.

sally


On 6/19/09 10:39 AM, Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Funny. I was at our local espresso place yesterday having lunch and my
 copy was on the table. The owner was wandering around, spied the book,
 and asked, How many times have you read this, now? I thought it was
 pretty funny that he automatically assumed I was rereading it. He said
 he hadn't read it for about twenty years and that it might be time to
 reread. He also recommended a book by Buckminster Fuller, called
 Critical Path, which he said he has read several times. I haven't
 checked that out yet.
 
 Anyway, for those who don't know ZMM, yesterday I read the part about
 how Phaedrus experimented in his university writing class by giving no
 grades until the end of the semester, how students reacted to that, and
 his assertion that we, including students, already know what quality is
 even if we can't define it, and that the writing process itself is more
 important than knowing the rules about writing. And how this is all
 wrapped up together.
 
 Sound familiar?
 
 Renee
 
 
 On Jun 19, 2009, at 10:23 AM, creeche...@aol.com wrote:
 
 In a message dated 6/19/2009 12:53:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
 phoenix...@sbcglobal.net writes:
 
 Right  now, I am rereading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance,
 which is  more about teaching than it is about motorcycles. Or Zen. Or
 Art.
 You addicted me to that book
 I would say it is much about life!
 
 Nancy
 
 El fin de toda educacion debe ser seguramente el servicio a otros.
 ~ Cesar Chavez
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Synthesizing with younger ages

2009-06-20 Thread Joy
Sally,
You've hit on a concept that is near and dear to my heart - approximations. If 
more people would understand that approximations is what we're after, that the 
growth and learning is somewhere in the approximations. It's those little 
changes, the slight adjustments, the tiny shifts in thinking that move children 
forward. You can't be perfect and learn at the same time, is something Marv 
Marshall says that is so true, because if you were perfect the first time, 
there is nothing to learn. 

I have this discussion with parents who are hyper-focused on their kids 
achievement, pushing them to perfection in every task they attempt. They think 
they are having high expectations, when in fact they aren't allowing them to 
struggle and come to the understanding naturally. 


 
Joy/NC/4
 
How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: thomas sally.thom...@verizon.net
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:44:04 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Synthesizing with younger ages

What is amazing is that the Debbie's students WERE able to think in such
beautiful and complex ways.  By not simplifying, by believing they were/are
capable, and by using some of the approaches described in the book (and
other books by keene, Harvey, et al) children can do this!  Debbie would say
don't simplify but show them how you do it, gradually release the
strategies to them, expect approximations (that's how we learn)
Watch Debbie and her class on video.

Many or most of us on this list have seen other children do it too.
Don't simplify or lower your expectations.  Children have enormous
potential.

Sally


On 6/17/09 10:27 PM, Katherine M. Salvia salv...@mville.edu wrote:

 Hello, 
 My name is Kate Salvia and I am a elementary school teacher and high school
 theatre teacher. I am taking a literacy course right now towards my masters.
 We just completed reading Reading with Meaning by Debbie Miller, and the last
 chapter struck my interest especially, Synthesizing Information. What is the
 best way to introduce synthesizing to the younger grades? Some of the
 techniques in the book seemed very advanced, and I was wondering if anyone had
 recommendations to simplifying so it can be introduced to younger grades.
 Thank you,
 Kate Salvia
  
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Re: [MOSAIC] Synthesizing with younger ages

2009-06-20 Thread Joy
This particular boy's parents never got it, went to my director and complained 
that I wasn't pushing him hard enough. She supported me. Parents chilled 
towards me, until his test scores came back, and they were very high and showed 
high growth.

What was more important to me than test scores was how his personality 
developed this year. He started out as a not-so-likable smart-alack, who would 
put down others and their ideas in a heart beat. I've never met anyone with 
such an attitude at such a young age. He  thought everyone else was dumb, and 
it was his job to correct them in the most harsh manner possible. (wonder where 
he got that idea?) Anyway, he went from being the person least welcome in a 
group, to neutral. I'd be more happy if others wanted him in their group, but 
this shift was huge for him. He still has to work on suppressing that 
arrogance, but at least it's not automatic any more.



 
Joy/NC/4
 
How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: Kathy Keyzer kkey...@carolina.rr.com
To: beverleep...@gmail.com; Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email 
Group mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 9:01:32 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Synthesizing with younger ages

Amen!  A dream come true would be that everyone would understand this FACT!

- Original Message - From: beverleep...@gmail.com
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Synthesizing with younger ages


 And it's a dangerous habit of mind or disposition to think that all learning 
 is easy and you should never have to work To Understand.  What a disservice 
 to our young minds.
 Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Joy jwidm...@rocketmail.com
 
 Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:21:10
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email 
 Groupmosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Synthesizing with younger ages
 
 
 Sally,
 You've hit on a concept that is near and dear to my heart - approximations. 
 If more people would understand that approximations is what we're after, that 
 the growth and learning is somewhere in the approximations. It's those little 
 changes, the slight adjustments, the tiny shifts in thinking that move 
 children forward. You can't be perfect and learn at the same time, is 
 something Marv Marshall says that is so true, because if you were perfect the 
 first time, there is nothing to learn.
 
 I have this discussion with parents who are hyper-focused on their kids 
 achievement, pushing them to perfection in every task they attempt. They 
 think they are having high expectations, when in fact they aren't allowing 
 them to struggle and come to the understanding naturally.
 
 
 
 Joy/NC/4
 
 How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
 hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: thomas sally.thom...@verizon.net
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:44:04 AM
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Synthesizing with younger ages
 
 What is amazing is that the Debbie's students WERE able to think in such
 beautiful and complex ways.  By not simplifying, by believing they were/are
 capable, and by using some of the approaches described in the book (and
 other books by keene, Harvey, et al) children can do this!  Debbie would say
 don't simplify but show them how you do it, gradually release the
 strategies to them, expect approximations (that's how we learn)
 Watch Debbie and her class on video.
 
 Many or most of us on this list have seen other children do it too.
 Don't simplify or lower your expectations.  Children have enormous
 potential.
 
 Sally
 
 
 On 6/17/09 10:27 PM, Katherine M. Salvia salv...@mville.edu wrote:
 
 Hello,
 My name is Kate Salvia and I am a elementary school teacher and high school
 theatre teacher. I am taking a literacy course right now towards my masters.
 We just completed reading Reading with Meaning by Debbie Miller, and the last
 chapter struck my interest especially, Synthesizing Information. What is the
 best way to introduce synthesizing to the younger grades? Some of the
 techniques in the book seemed very advanced, and I was wondering if anyone 
 had
 recommendations to simplifying so it can be introduced to younger grades.
 Thank you,
 Kate Salvia
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm

2009-06-20 Thread Joy
Ah, a most treasured text, for sure! mine looks much like Dave's Zen.

One question for Dave, you haven't turned it into a scroll? 


Joy/NC/4
 
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hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: beverleep...@gmail.com beverleep...@gmail.com
To: Dave Middlebrook davemiddlebr...@verizon.net; Mosaic: A Reading 
Comprehension Strategies Email Group mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 9:00:55 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm

And how many of us have the deceptively simple To Kill a Mockingbird, looking 
much like Dave describes above, rubber-banded together to wait for the next 
read?
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-Original Message-
From: Dave Middlebrook davemiddlebr...@verizon.net

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:55:24 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email 
Groupmosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm


Zen...  Incredible book.  I've read it with new eyes three or four times 
over the decades.  The margins of my copy are filled with scribbled notes in 
different inks and different handwritings.  Amazing to see how my 
handwriting has changed over the years!  The pages are brittle, slightly 
tea-colored (the acid in the paper, I'm thinking) and the dog ears are 
dog-eared.  Where I've run out of margin, I've got stapled bits of paper 
(from the days before sticky notes).

There are only four other books that I have worked over this intensely: The 
Greening of America by Charles Reich, a collection of the works of Karl 
Marx, The Marx Engels Reader, edited by Robert Tucker, Stephen Hall's 
Mapping the Next Millenium, and Rudolf  Arnheim's Visual Thinking.  I've 
read lots of other books, but these five keep pulling me back.  And Pirsig's 
Zen was, for me, the first book that really just stopped me in my tracks. 
It is breathtaking and emotionally powerful.

What a great thing to wake up and read Renee's post, and then to read the 
nods and smiles that followed!

Feeling good!

- Dave

Dave Middlebrook
The Textmapping Project
A resource for teachers improving reading comprehension skills instruction.
www.textmapping.org   |   Please share this site with your colleagues!
USA: (609) 771-1781
dmiddlebr...@textmapping.org

- Original Message - 
From: Joy jwidm...@rocketmail.com
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm


 Me too, thanks Renee for talking about this book, and for showing me the 
 beauty of his words and thoughts. I'd even venture to say that a book talk 
 may be in order. Anybody game?


 Joy/NC/4

 How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content 
 go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org





 
 From: thomas sally.thom...@verizon.net
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 2:40:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm

 I am just going to finally have to read it!  Too many people I admire have
 loved it over and over.

 sally


 On 6/19/09 10:39 AM, Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Funny. I was at our local espresso place yesterday having lunch and my
 copy was on the table. The owner was wandering around, spied the book,
 and asked, How many times have you read this, now? I thought it was
 pretty funny that he automatically assumed I was rereading it. He said
 he hadn't read it for about twenty years and that it might be time to
 reread. He also recommended a book by Buckminster Fuller, called
 Critical Path, which he said he has read several times. I haven't
 checked that out yet.

 Anyway, for those who don't know ZMM, yesterday I read the part about
 how Phaedrus experimented in his university writing class by giving no
 grades until the end of the semester, how students reacted to that, and
 his assertion that we, including students, already know what quality is
 even if we can't define it, and that the writing process itself is more
 important than knowing the rules about writing. And how this is all
 wrapped up together.

 Sound familiar?

 Renee


 On Jun 19, 2009, at 10:23 AM, creeche...@aol.com wrote:

 In a message dated 6/19/2009 12:53:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
 phoenix...@sbcglobal.net writes:

 Right  now, I am rereading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance,
 which is  more about teaching than it is about motorcycles. Or Zen. Or
 Art.
 You addicted me to that book
 I would say it is much about life!

 Nancy

 El fin de toda educacion debe ser seguramente el servicio a otros.
 ~ Cesar Chavez




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Re: [MOSAIC] themes- friendship vs friends help

2009-06-20 Thread Joy
It was about thematic teaching, but what's wrong with going on a tangent about 
book themes? My difficulty with themes is not limited. I think I must have a 
mental block about this, as I get stuck with book themes, too!

OMG, if you all can help me learn how to identify themes you will have 
performed a miracle. I will be a better teacher, and my students will be the 
beneficiaries. 

 
Joy/NC/4
 
How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:59:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] themes- friendship vs friends help

I thought this discussion was about thematic teaching, not book themes. Perhaps 
I'm wrong. Having said that, I think having the reader figure out what specific 
behaviors demonstrate friendship is a good thing. :-)

Renee

On Jun 20, 2009, at 8:40 AM, cfoa...@aol.com wrote:

 
  I think the difference is that Friendship covers many specific behaviors 
 whereas Friends help out in hard times is just one specific example.? So 
 the book may be about friendship ( general) and specifically about helping in 
 hard times.? If you use the general label, then the reader must figure out 
 what specific behaviors demonstrate friendship.
 
 Carolyn

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~ Barack Obama



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Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm

2009-06-20 Thread Joy
Dave,
I didn't , mean to imply that you couldn't comprehend, was just curious if you 
had turned it into a scroll. Do you wonder what it would be like? I do. I even 
think this might be the perfect book to scroll because if I copied it I'd have 
nice big margins to write on!

 
Joy/NC/4
 
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hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: Dave Middlebrook davemiddlebr...@verizon.net
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:58:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm

No, I didn't scroll it.  It's still in book form.  This was long before I 
started scrolling my books.  An interesting side effect of this is that when 
I tried to talk with those amongst my friends who had read it, they thought 
I was crazy.  The book that I had read was not the book that they had read. 
Our comprehensions were different.  But there was no grade or income at 
stake, so it didn't really matter.  I'm happy with what I comprehended.

I know that I'm more mainstream in my comprehension when I read a scroll, 
but that doesn't mean that I can't read a book and make sense of it. 
Sometimes the sense I make is, frankly, much more intersting than anything 
in the book!  But I know that there is a mainstream comprehension that 
people seem to form, and I have learned how to find this.  I have learned a 
lot about how to read bound books from reading unrolled books.  I still 
prefer scrolls, but I am now capable of anchoring my comprehension a bit 
more closely to the text when I read a book that has been fragmented into 
pages.

- Dave

Now, if I had to read something today, knowing that I would need to discuss 
it with other people,
- Original Message - 
From: Joy jwidm...@rocketmail.com
To: beverleep...@gmail.com; Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies 
Email Group mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm


 Ah, a most treasured text, for sure! mine looks much like Dave's Zen.

 One question for Dave, you haven't turned it into a scroll?


 Joy/NC/4

 How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content 
 go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org





 
 From: beverleep...@gmail.com beverleep...@gmail.com
 To: Dave Middlebrook davemiddlebr...@verizon.net; Mosaic: A Reading 
 Comprehension Strategies Email Group mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 9:00:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm

 And how many of us have the deceptively simple To Kill a Mockingbird, 
 looking much like Dave describes above, rubber-banded together to wait for 
 the next read?
 Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Middlebrook davemiddlebr...@verizon.net

 Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:55:24
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email 
 Groupmosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm


 Zen...  Incredible book.  I've read it with new eyes three or four times
 over the decades.  The margins of my copy are filled with scribbled notes 
 in
 different inks and different handwritings.  Amazing to see how my
 handwriting has changed over the years!  The pages are brittle, slightly
 tea-colored (the acid in the paper, I'm thinking) and the dog ears are
 dog-eared.  Where I've run out of margin, I've got stapled bits of paper
 (from the days before sticky notes).

 There are only four other books that I have worked over this intensely: 
 The
 Greening of America by Charles Reich, a collection of the works of Karl
 Marx, The Marx Engels Reader, edited by Robert Tucker, Stephen Hall's
 Mapping the Next Millenium, and Rudolf  Arnheim's Visual Thinking. 
 I've
 read lots of other books, but these five keep pulling me back.  And 
 Pirsig's
 Zen was, for me, the first book that really just stopped me in my tracks.
 It is breathtaking and emotionally powerful.

 What a great thing to wake up and read Renee's post, and then to read the
 nods and smiles that followed!

 Feeling good!

 - Dave

 Dave Middlebrook
 The Textmapping Project
 A resource for teachers improving reading comprehension skills 
 instruction.
 www.textmapping.org   |   Please share this site with your colleagues!
 USA: (609) 771-1781
 dmiddlebr...@textmapping.org

 - Original Message - 
 From: Joy jwidm...@rocketmail.com
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism-zmm


 Me too, thanks Renee for talking about this book, and for showing me the
 beauty of his words and thoughts. I'd even venture to say that a book 
 talk
 may be in order. Anybody game?


 Joy/NC/4

 How children learn is as important as what

Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism

2009-06-19 Thread Joy
As far as I know there are only 2 of us who do. However, we have a very small 
faculty - 8 teachers. Three of them are new to our school, so I don't have any 
experience with their habits. So 2 out of the remaining 5 isn't bad.

 
Joy/NC/4
 
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hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: beverleep...@gmail.com beverleep...@gmail.com
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 1:28:30 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Professionalism

All but one or two.
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-Original Message-
From: Stephanie Perry zeal4learn...@gmail.com

Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:00:23 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email 
Groupmosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Subject: [MOSAIC] Professionalism


Hello everyone,
I have a side question for everyone. I know that at every school you can
find at least one more more teachers that say come the end of the year that
they are not going to have anything to do with teaching all summer. I am
really curious as to how many teachers in your school, to your knowledge,
actually take it upon themselves to do their own professional development.
This can be in the form of reading, classes, or workshops.

What percentage of teachers at your school actually do this?

Thanks,
Stephanie

3rd/CA
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Re: [MOSAIC] themes

2009-06-19 Thread Joy

Beverlee,
If there is a group that can help me push my thinking, this is it. I'm 
pondering your suggestion that sentences are needed to describe themes. That is 
an interesting idea. Does the sentence narrow the concept, or does it broaden 
it?

I wonder if I struggle with this because our standards are given to us in bits 
or because I am not thinking globally? I always thought I was a big picture 
kind of person, maybe I'm mistaken. I can see how things tie together, and have 
developed projects that are integrated, but struggle with the label.

 

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Re: [MOSAIC] More on Themes--Really Long

2009-06-19 Thread Joy
Cherylle,
Not TMI at all! I want to know more!

Many of your topics overlap mine, especially in Science.

 
Joy/NC/4
 
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 This unit was a huge success even if I did provide you with TMI!!!
 
Cherylle in CA
3rd Grade
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Re: [MOSAIC] themes

2009-06-19 Thread Joy
No, not for a cute sign.This is the name of my integrated thematic unit, and 
should be connected to an essential question, as well as everything we do. It 
would be connected to the literature we read, the math we do, etc.

 
Joy/NC/4
 
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From: Beverlee Paul beverleep...@gmail.com
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 11:35:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] themes

Joy, as I'm reading this over, I think it's dawning me on what you're
asking, at least what I think maybe you were trying to ask us.  Are you
maybe thinking of a slogan such as librarians, etc. put on cute bulletin
boards?  Like at the beginning of the year when people put things by their
door so kids can recognize their room easily?  Like Hop into our Pad, only
not that silly?  I've now confused myself amazingly well.  I'm with whomever
said to please tell us more about what you were asking.  There's something
about the word theme that we are all defining according to our own schema,
and maybe you weren't even asking anything about as deep as we're (I'm)
thinking.  Are you thinking of a specific use for why you'd want to name a
theme one thing or another?  Please clear up my fuzz!  Bev



On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:28 AM, thomas sally.thom...@verizon.net wrote:

 Hi Joy, Beverlee, etc.

 I got some of my ideas about developing inquiry yes from Harste, Burke and
 Barbara Flores and others from that wonderful connected group of educators
 many of whom are directly connected to the Goodmans and each other(thinking
 here there were some great articles in the Whole Language Catalog)...But I
 also got ideas from Coalition of Essential Schools and maybe they were
 influenced also by the above.  Whatever, a useful way to think about
 themesespecially those that lead to an inquiry stance is to ask
 essential questions.  Find the overarching question (or several
 interrelated questions) that is rich and authentic, keeping in mind the
 interests and developmental levels of your children and yes, sometimes,
 even
 the expected curriculum at your grade level.  In other words you gain
 little by working against the science or social studies focus of your grade
 level per your particular state.  (Some would differ with me here and its
 not like sometimes I didn't ignore that as well)

 It would sometimes take me weeks to figure out what the big question was,
 one that would include the concepts and strategies and knowledge that I
 wanted to cover.  Phrasing it as a question I think automatically turns it
 to a sentence rather than a simple topic.  Even if you start with a topic,
 if you turn into a question it pushes you on that inquiry journey and to
 deeper thinking about the topic.  For example, your students would like to
 study horses.  Ask why do horses play such a central role in the life of
 some Native American nations?  Remember our Mosaic work and how learning to
 ask  good questions is more important than giving right answers??

 Next I think through the concepts(deeper understandings) I expect children
 to learn through this inquiry.  Then I figure out the critical knowledge
 that they'll work with.  Yes, knowing some stuff, some facts is
 important.
 But this forces me to narrow this down to pivotal knowledge, not just
 collections of facts, dates etc. that could be tested on a multiple choice
 test!

 Then I think through the skills and strategies they'll use to accomplish
 their inquiry - group and individual.

 Then and possibly throughout I consider the underlying values and
 assumptions underlying my plan and consider how they might emerge in the
 children's work.  I always ask myself the social justice, fairness kind of
 questions here.  How will different perspectives be privileged in this
 work?
 How will I respect the diverse children in my class and so on?

 Then I figure out how I will assess how we are accomplishing, whether we
 did
 accomplish (formative and summative assessment) and I run that back through
 All of the above to add, delete, refine etc.

 Then I begin work on resources and particular ways to begin the unit and so
 on.  In some ways, this last step is where I used to start my planning.
  But
 doing all the other thinking above results in much better teaching and
 learning I think.  It is open to emerging understandings and information
 because I start with the stance that the question is a real one for me, not
 just the children.

 Gosh, sorry if I've gone on to long.  It just always help to think through
 what we're doing and I love it that the whole question
  of themes has emerged here.

 Sally




 On 6/19/09 3:50 AM, Joy jwidm...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 
  Beverlee,
  If there is a group that can help me push my thinking, this is it. I'm
  pondering your suggestion

Re: [MOSAIC] Fiction v. NonFiction

2009-06-18 Thread Joy
When I taught second grade I found that the children LOVED nonfiction. 

Joy/NC/4     How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and 
content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org   

--- On Thu, 6/18/09, Lauren Fahey lfahe...@hotmail.com wrote:

From: Lauren Fahey lfahe...@hotmail.com
Subject: [MOSAIC] Fiction v. NonFiction
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 11:08 AM


 

After reading Chapter 10 (Determining Importance in NonFiction) in Debbie 
Miller's RWM. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for great 
nonfiction books to really catch the children's attention. Specifically 
nonfiction books geared toward a first or second grade. How do you begin your 
non-fiction lessons and do you find the kids are engaged, or do they just want 
to jump right back into fiction? Thanks in advance for the suggestions!

 

Lauren 

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Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy

2009-06-18 Thread Joy
http://jc-schools.net/tutorials/vocab/TN.html
Look at this website for information about Marzano's Academic Vocabulary

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content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org   

--- On Wed, 6/17/09, drmarinac...@aol.com drmarinac...@aol.com wrote:

From: drmarinac...@aol.com drmarinac...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 3:09 PM

This is unbelievably helpful


You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your
grandmother.
-Albert Einstein






-Original Message-
From: Jan Sanders jgou...@hotmail.com
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 12:42 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy










Robert Marzano is wonderful for academic vocabulary.  As a literacy coach I
did district wide staff development (3, 3 hour sessions) using his Building
Academic Background Knowledge work.  He did some work in conjunction with
Stanford University and a brain researcher.  He has DVDs, one that explains
the research and a rep from Stanford (can not remember the name and it is
probably some big shot) and the brain guy both speak on it.  It gives the
WHY we should teach academic vocab.  There is also another DVD that has the
6 step process for teaching vocabulary.
There is a book too -paperback 8 1/2 x 11.  I believe the DVDs are quite
pricey -they come together.  They are published by ASDC (Association for
Supervision and Curriculum Development).
Jan
You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your
grandmother.
-Albert Einstein


On 6/17/09 4:22 AM, kjcec...@aol.com kjcec...@aol.com wrote:

 Marzano discusses this in? great detail
 
 
 Kristine
 
 
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 From: drmarinac...@aol.com
 To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 7:17 am
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy
 
 
 Academic vocabulary. Interesting Is there an author who I can 
read up on??
 ?
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 From: cnjpal...@aol.com?
 To: mos...@literacyworkshop.org?
 Sent: Tue, Jun 16, 2009 9:50 pm?
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy?
 ?
 ?
 ?
 ?
 ?
 ?
 Academic vocabulary.?
 Jennifer?
 In a message dated 6/16/2009 7:03:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,?
 drmarinac...@aol.com writes:?
 ?
 Can anyone think of the most recent trends and key issues in reading?
 pedagogy?
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Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy -anything else new and exciting?

2009-06-18 Thread Joy
I still need help coming up with themes for my units. Don't know why, but I 
guess I can't see the big picture. Do you have any suggestions as to how to 
develop an overarching theme?

Joy/NC/4     How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and 
content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org   

--- On Thu, 6/18/09, drmarinac...@aol.com drmarinac...@aol.com wrote:

From: drmarinac...@aol.com drmarinac...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy -anything else new 
and exciting?
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:44 AM

Sounds good. So academic vocabulary, RTI, anything else new and 
exciting? I also like the textmapping but I learned about that two 
years ago on this LISTSERV. I'm a little bored:)

If there are any teachers out there...What do you NEED in terms of 
issues in your classroom?



-Original Message-
From: Stephanie Perry zeal4learn...@gmail.com
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 4:37 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy










I recommend Bring Words to Life by Isabel Beck over Marzano's. Her book 
not
only gives the research but it provides things that you can use in your
classroom immediately.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:09 PM, drmarinac...@aol.com wrote:

 This is unbelievably helpful


 You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to 
your
 grandmother.
 -Albert Einstein






 -Original Message-
 From: Jan Sanders jgou...@hotmail.com
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 12:42 pm
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy










 Robert Marzano is wonderful for academic vocabulary.  As a literacy 
coach I
 did district wide staff development (3, 3 hour sessions) using his 
Building
 Academic Background Knowledge work.  He did some work in conjunction 
with
 Stanford University and a brain researcher.  He has DVDs, one that 
explains
 the research and a rep from Stanford (can not remember the name and 
it is
 probably some big shot) and the brain guy both speak on it.  It gives 
the
 WHY we should teach academic vocab.  There is also another DVD that 
has the
 6 step process for teaching vocabulary.
 There is a book too -paperback 8 1/2 x 11.  I believe the DVDs are 
quite
 pricey -they come together.  They are published by ASDC (Association 
for
 Supervision and Curriculum Development).
 Jan
 You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to 
your
 grandmother.
 -Albert Einstein


 On 6/17/09 4:22 AM, kjcec...@aol.com kjcec...@aol.com wrote:

  Marzano discusses this in? great detail


 Kristine


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 From: drmarinac...@aol.com
 To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 7:17 am
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy


 Academic vocabulary. Interesting Is there an author who I can

 read up on??

 ?
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 From: cnjpal...@aol.com?
 To: mos...@literacyworkshop.org?
 Sent: Tue, Jun 16, 2009 9:50 pm?
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy?
 ?
 ?
 ?
 ?
 ?
 ?
 Academic vocabulary.?
 Jennifer?
 In a message dated 6/16/2009 7:03:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,?
 drmarinac...@aol.com writes:?
 ?
 Can anyone think of the most recent trends and key issues in reading?
 pedagogy?
 ?









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2009-06-18 Thread Joy
Taking Back The Classroom: Education Reform Begins With Teachers and Parents


Join our cause exploring sensible options to the madness created by 
standardized testing and NCLB mandates. Help us find solutions and 
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[MOSAIC] sorry

2009-06-18 Thread Joy
I did not mean for the message to go out to the whole group. Please accept my 
appologies.

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content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org   


  
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Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy -anything elsenew and exciting?

2009-06-18 Thread Joy
Thanks!

Joy/NC/4     How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and 
content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org   

--- On Thu, 6/18/09, Kim Catano catano8...@roadrunner.com wrote:

From: Kim Catano catano8...@roadrunner.com
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy -anything elsenew 
and exciting?
To: 'Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group' 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 9:13 PM

Jay McTighe and Grant Wiggins Understanding by Design!  There is a
professional book and workbook...it helps you with the enduring statements
and essential questions to help you with designing a unit.  McTighe's
website also has resources to help you with those units.

-Original Message-
From: mosaic-boun...@literacyworkshop.org
[mailto:mosaic-boun...@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of Joy
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:52 PM
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy -anything
elsenew and exciting?

I still need help coming up with themes for my units. Don't know why, but I
guess I can't see the big picture. Do you have any suggestions as to how to
develop an overarching theme?

Joy/NC/4     How children learn is as important as what they learn: process
and content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org   

--- On Thu, 6/18/09, drmarinac...@aol.com drmarinac...@aol.com wrote:

From: drmarinac...@aol.com drmarinac...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy -anything else
new and exciting?
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:44 AM

Sounds good. So academic vocabulary, RTI, anything else new and 
exciting? I also like the textmapping but I learned about that two 
years ago on this LISTSERV. I'm a little bored:)

If there are any teachers out there...What do you NEED in terms of 
issues in your classroom?



-Original Message-
From: Stephanie Perry zeal4learn...@gmail.com
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 4:37 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy










I recommend Bring Words to Life by Isabel Beck over Marzano's. Her book 
not
only gives the research but it provides things that you can use in your
classroom immediately.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:09 PM, drmarinac...@aol.com wrote:

 This is unbelievably helpful


 You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to 
your
 grandmother.
 -Albert Einstein






 -Original Message-
 From: Jan Sanders jgou...@hotmail.com
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 12:42 pm
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy










 Robert Marzano is wonderful for academic vocabulary.  As a literacy 
coach I
 did district wide staff development (3, 3 hour sessions) using his 
Building
 Academic Background Knowledge work.  He did some work in conjunction 
with
 Stanford University and a brain researcher.  He has DVDs, one that 
explains
 the research and a rep from Stanford (can not remember the name and 
it is
 probably some big shot) and the brain guy both speak on it.  It gives 
the
 WHY we should teach academic vocab.  There is also another DVD that 
has the
 6 step process for teaching vocabulary.
 There is a book too -paperback 8 1/2 x 11.  I believe the DVDs are 
quite
 pricey -they come together.  They are published by ASDC (Association 
for
 Supervision and Curriculum Development).
 Jan
 You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to 
your
 grandmother.
 -Albert Einstein


 On 6/17/09 4:22 AM, kjcec...@aol.com kjcec...@aol.com wrote:

  Marzano discusses this in? great detail


 Kristine


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 From: drmarinac...@aol.com
 To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 7:17 am
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy


 Academic vocabulary. Interesting Is there an author who I can

 read up on??

 ?
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 From: cnjpal...@aol.com?
 To: mos...@literacyworkshop.org?
 Sent: Tue, Jun 16, 2009 9:50 pm?
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy?
 ?
 ?
 ?
 ?
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 ?
 Academic vocabulary.?
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 In a message dated 6/16/2009 7:03:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,?
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 ?









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Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy -anything else new and exciting?

2009-06-18 Thread Joy
Sally,
I've been doing this for many years, and YES it is fun and engaging, but I 
always struggle with coming up with the overarching theme! I'm trying to help 
our third grade teacher, so if I can't understand it, I know I can't help her!

Joy/NC/4     How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and 
content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org   

--- On Thu, 6/18/09, thomas sally.thom...@verizon.net wrote:

From: thomas sally.thom...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy -anything else new 
and exciting?
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 9:10 PM

Joy,

So just bouncing off of academic vocab and RTI and on and on, thematic
teaching is a big answer in my view.  When we teach thematically, we can
involve kids in inquiry at many different levels of reading and writing and
research and modes of communication.  This allows us to differentiate while
they have a common overarching theme - thus ALL can contribute in authentic
ways. And vocabulary is going to be benefited in huge waysbecause the
words are all connected and thus easier to learn because they are meaning
based.  And they are used over and over throughout the reading and writing
and so on.

So thematic teaching is a big overarching picture that often never gets
mentioned in all this focus on different aspects of literacy!!! AND THANK
YOU FOR BRING US BACK TO THIS IMPORTANT FOUNDATION FOR LEARNING.

I teach in an American Indian school as I've mentioned.  This fall the whole
school is focusing on oceans initially.  So I've started playing with all
the ideas.  My social studies focus is communities...and I'm thinking that
connects with the ocean as an interconnected community of living things.
I'm also thinking of oceans being interconnected to planet earth so taking
care of the ocean matters.  Native American connections - the emphasis we
are all connected.  and I can use a number of traditional American Indian
stories centered on the sea.  I found a book by the son of a friend All the
Way to the Ocean connected to Save our Seas Foundation with tons of
activities and links and resources and that definitely brings activism to
the front.  And then the issue of salmon and dams and use of water are
critical issues to Native Americans in California (and further north)right
now.  In fact, the dams are coming down as a result of Native American
activism.  And on and on and on and so exciting.

And I can teach differences between fiction and non fiction and bring us
back to community and still focus on interconnections by using Swimmy and
Rainbow Fish and use those to be teaching some readingin addition to all
our non fiction.  Even thinking about a contrast between NEMO AND A NEW
MOVIE COMING TURTLE:  can't quite rmemeber the title but it's non fiction
and will be out this year.

EGAD THIS IS ALL SO MUCH FUN.  Now I will need to start pinning this down
to the actual days and shape of the unit for my second and third graders.

But just think.this is so ideal for RTI and differentiation and building
vocabulary and teaching all the language arts strategies and skills as
well as social studies and science.

This is why we need to go back to thematic teaching and many of the
approaches so advocated in whole language.  We will not neglect the skills.
We can of course do phonics and words families and fluency.  But our
foundation is a meaning-centered inquiry into something that matters!

Sorry I am just flat out getting so excited to be back to an elementary
classroom in a place that values meaning-centered learning.

Good luck Joy.  I know you will do the same.  Of course I thought at first
that oceans was just a topic.  But when I then crank it up to we are all
connected the universe is possible..

Sally




On 6/18/09 4:52 PM, Joy jwidm...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 I still need help coming up with themes for my units. Don't know why, but I
 guess I can't see the big picture. Do you have any suggestions as to how to
 develop an overarching theme?
 
 Joy/NC/4     How children learn is as important as what they learn: process
 and content go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org   
 
 --- On Thu, 6/18/09, drmarinac...@aol.com drmarinac...@aol.com wrote:
 
 From: drmarinac...@aol.com drmarinac...@aol.com
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] TRENDS and ISSUES In Literacy Pedagogy -anything else
 new and exciting?
 To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:44 AM
 
 Sounds good. So academic vocabulary, RTI, anything else new and
 exciting? I also like the textmapping but I learned about that two
 years ago on this LISTSERV. I'm a little bored:)
 
 If there are any teachers out there...What do you NEED in terms of
 issues in your classroom?
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Stephanie Perry zeal4learn...@gmail.com
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group

Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicitstrategies?

2009-06-15 Thread Joy
Blasted, it's teachers like this that give us a bad rap. 


Joy/NC/4
 
How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: Patricia Kimathi pkima...@earthlink.net
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:41:13 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach 
explicitstrategies?

Should we write a book.  I once had a second grade teacher tell me my son could 
not read.  (Of course she did not ask her best friend across the hall who had 
taught him 1st grade and knew he read above grade level)  When I pulled out a 
book he was reading.  The low level/high interest  version (middle school) of 
The Three Musketeers I opened it and he started to read pronouncing the French 
names.  She said he must have memorized it. He continued to read and told her 
what the story was about and how he had to call his Godfather to find out how 
to say the French words. He had been in her class for 3 months and refused to 
read at circle time.  She never called me and when I asked, saw her everyday, 
she said he was fine.  For spelling she had them practice dictation spelling 
sentences.  He memorized the sentences as one word.  He hated her class.  She 
said he had problems he said she bored him.  We went on and on all day.  He 
finally asked me why did she cry
 after she talked to me.  I didn't know she cried. And he was in private school.
On Jun 14, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Joy wrote:

 
 And the stories do not all have a happy ending. Many of you know the story 
 about my son, who is now 24. He had a right temporal brain tumor, which was 
 successfully removed. He was second in his class, an honor student with 2 
 part time jobs, manager of the football team, band member, good citizen of 
 his school. He didn't want to give up his standing, and insisted on going 
 right back to school, probably a little too early.
 
 He was on quite a cocktail of anti-seizure, anti-inflammatory, 
 anti-depressants, and pain meds. The school held an IEP/504 meeting where I 
 was told my son was on drugs (no kidding, they all implied that he was on 
 illicit drugs!) and was falling asleep in class (duh, he had a doctor's note 
 explaining it would happen.) They yanked him out of regular classes, sending 
 him to the alternative school. He completed a 15 hour class in a half day, 
 and aced the exit exam. Their solution, make him do word associations for the 
 rest of the term. We asked could he start another class, and they wouldn't 
 hear it (something about seat time) I asked what about just letting him take 
 the other class for enrichment, no way.
 
 Plus, they had no one who could teach him advanced calculus II, or French.
 
 Long story short, they dropped him from the rolls without telling us. He went 
 to school one day, and they said What are you doing here, you're not 
 enrolled any longer. so my son is an involuntary drop out. We looked into 
 filing a law suit, but I was advised against it since I worked for the school 
 system. He lost all respect for education, thinks it's a waste, won't get his 
 GED or Adult HS Diploma, forget going to college. So I have a 24 yr old with 
 a 180 IQ who sits at home all day playing Warcraft. Tell me about falling 
 through the cracks, my son was swallowed.
 
 
 Joy/NC/4
 
 How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
 hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 
 
 
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 From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 5:40:26 PM
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 explicitstrategies?
 
 Wow.
 Here we are teachers discussing our own children trying to survive 
 school.
 Think about that.
 
 Renee
 
 On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Ljackson wrote:
 
 Some people lack a grand scheme of anything., IMO. His old 4/5 teacher, now 
 the math coach and among the coolest people I know, called him to tell him 
 he knew all along that there was something really special about the way his 
 brain worked. Had lots of examples of brilliant, successful artists and 
 musicians with similar issues, and painted the picture in glowing and 
 positive terms--how thinking outside the boz is what makes him who he is and 
 puts him a unique position to succeed in very non-traditional ways.  One 
 look at my son, with his bleach-tipped hair dipping over one eye and his 
 funky clothing choice tells me he was right, but hearing it from a teacher 
 he (we!!)  adored made all the difference in the world.  And Isaac wants to 
 be an artist/photographer/teacher, so he can use his understanding of how to 
 understand differently to tremendous creative advantage--if he can survive 
 high school. ;-=)
 
 
 Lori

Re: [MOSAIC] 4th grade read aloud

2009-06-15 Thread Joy
Our third grade reads that, but I always include it as a Lit Circle choice 
along with Fourth Grade Rats and Jack Adrift


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Cc: Brenda White-Keller brenda...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 6:05:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] 4th grade read aloud

I always start the year with Judy Blume's Tale of a Fourth gRade Nothing.
Carol
4th grade
-- Original message from Brenda White-Keller 
brenda...@sbcglobal.net: -- 

Hi,  What read alouds do you all suggest for 4th grade.  I'm changing grades 
and want a book that will grab them the first day.  I'm thinking the theme will 
be 
 journies (from our SS).  
 Thanks, 
 Brenda 
 CA/4 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Joy
Keith can help with that. Email him off list

 
Joy/NC/4
 
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hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: thomas sally.thom...@verizon.net
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
beverleep...@gmail.com,  mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 1:54:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

Will do.  I'll take good notes and type them in for everyone - maybe in
several chunks.  Then someone will need to tell me how to put them in the
files too???

Sally


On 6/13/09 2:47 PM, beverleep...@gmail.com beverleep...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please put as much as you can in the files!!!
 Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel
 
 -Original Message-
 From: thomas sally.thom...@verizon.net
 
 Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 07:18:25
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email
 Groupmosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?
 
 
 I and several teachers from my school are going to an institute with Harvey
 and Daniels in a few weeks.  Would be glad to share back what we learn!
 
 Sally
 
 
 On 6/13/09 6:24 AM, Joanne Stano jst...@wadsnet.com wrote:
 
 I am currently reading Comprehension by Collaboration by Harvey and
 Daniels.  In chapter 2 they discuss reading is thinking .
 Comprehension is about understanding.  When we teach comprehension,
 we are teaching for understanding.  They go on to say that readers
 need explicit instruction to decode and comprehend text and that when
 teachers explicitly teach they show kids how the reading process
 happens.  The point is we need to teach the comprehension strategies
 explicitly but need to also let students respond to their reading in
 authentic ways.  I think we get caught up in the responses, thinking
 we need evidence for reporting tools. Thus the over emphasis in
 strategy instruction.
   I am really excited about this book and can't wait to put the ideas
 to work.  I also like the fact that they talk about how in the
 business world if you get 85%  participation you are a success if we
 get 85% we fret and stew.  They also give ideas for making small
 groups inquiry circles successful and lesson ideas.  The book also
 sites many sources and makes me want to look them up which is exactly
 what I want my students to feel and do.
 
 Joanne/Ohio/3rd
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Joy
LOL, they say that here (NC) too!

Along with carry as in I'm going to carry the team to soccer practice. It 
means take or transport.

 
Joy/NC/4
 
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hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: thomas sally.thom...@verizon.net
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 1:58:39 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

I just love the way you way this.  Is it from a particular dialect region??
My favorite and my children's favorite after living in the south for awhile
Was I'm fixing to  Meaning I'm starting to get started to

Anyway I truly love the way you add this!

sally


On 6/13/09 4:06 PM, Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 I'm just sayin'
 Renee
 
 On Jun 13, 2009, at 12:30 PM, cnjpal...@aol.com wrote:
 
 




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Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Joy
omg, one of the defining moments that got me to quit my job and go back to 
college and become a teacher was when camping with Girl Scouts. It was time to 
prepare dinner, and being the constructivist that I am, I pretty much left it 
up to the girls.(I didn't know that's what it is called) It wasn't very long 
before I discovered that they did not know how to slice, chop, or peel any 
vegetables or fruit. These girls were in middle school!

Last year I brought in a chef who taught each child basic cutting skills, 
allowing them to do the chopping, slicing, and peeling while he stood nearby. 
The kids made 8 large trays of sushi for our international festival. They did 
it ALL. I watched him teaching them, guiding them, and used what I learned from 
him with my class this year. I plan to always give students experiences with 
real life skills. I think parents today coddle their kids way too much.

 
Joy/NC/4
 
How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 10:51:29 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicit 
strategies?

Hi Deidra,

I agree with you and whoever said that it is also due to parents' expectations. 
I recall two years ago when I was working in a Kindergarten classroom and we 
had a certain student who was VERY bright but who sometimes just seemed to 
really lack confidence. Then one day we were making stone soup and his mom 
came in to help with the vegetable preparation, etc. She and I were working at 
a table together, calling each student over to cut up the particular vegetable 
he/she had brought. While I was guiding each child in the use of a knife, 
watching carefully while he or she did the cutting, this mom was doing ALL the 
cutting FOR the child while the child watched her. I kid you not. I got a huge 
insight that day.

Renee

On Jun 14, 2009, at 5:04 AM, djchan wrote:

 Renee,
 I am a retired teacher and I found these same problems when I taught. I think 
 it comes from adults in the child's life who are controlling and do not allow 
 the child to learn by mistakes. I once had a child (boy) in my first grade 
 classroom who was held back because of failure to perform. Trying to get him 
 to put anything on paper was a nightmare. He was so scared of making a 
 mistake that he refused to try to do anything. I later found out his previous 
 teacher stood over him while working and pointed out every mistake he made 
 and he had to do it all over. It took over half the school year for him to 
 relax and gain confidence in himself before he could write anything other 
 than his name on a piece of paper. He ended the year well but had lots more 
 'trauma' to overcome from that year with the controlling teacher. Children 
 who have issues with self confidence ie Is this right? have not been 
 allowed to feel successful after a mistake and fear being wrong
 and punished. They don't understand that it's ok to make mistakes and that 
mistakes are normal parts of learning.
 I hope you have a very successful school year next year.
 
 Deidra Chandler
 MA Reading
 MA Early Childhood Ed.
 ps. I teach adult education now and still find this same mentality among them.
 
 - Original Message - From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 10:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?
 
 
 I teach Art to Kindergarten, first, and second graders. I have many, many, 
 many students who constantly ask, Is this right? and Can I (whatever)? 
 and What do I do? and many, many, many students who say, I don't know how 
 to (whatever) and the most disconcerting of all many students who, 
 right after I give directions for whatever we are doing and send them off to 
 the tables to get started, will just sit there. Just sit, and sit, waiting 
 for me to tell them to start, even though the paper and/or other materials 
 is sitting right there in the middle of their table. I walk by and say, I'm 
 not sure what you are waiting for and they look at me.
 
 This is all AFTER I give directions, perhaps model the use of a new tool or 
 show a couple of techniques or show a few examples (which I then put away) 
 to spark some ideas. I always end my introduction (which takes place as a 
 whole group, sitting on the floor), with directions to go find a seat and 
 get started.
 
 I really think this is a direct result of way too much direct instruction 
 and focus on the right thing and the right answer and not enough 
 discovery and/or inquiry. I base this, of course, on my own deductions 
 relating to the degree of is this right? behavior among different classes

Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Joy

I would certainly be up for lurking on this one. I've overcommitted already for 
the summer and we return July 27th. 

 
Joy/NC/4
 
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hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: Waingort Jimenez, Elisa elwaingor...@cbe.ab.ca
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 8:49:29 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

Jennifer,
So, am I.  However, I could take responsibility for leading a discussion around 
a section or two of the book but not for the entire discussion.  Sally, do you 
have the book, yet?  Maybe you'd be interested in leading the discussion since 
you will be going to an institute with Harvey and Goudvis??
Elisa

Elisa Waingort
Grade 2 Spanish Bilingual
Dalhousie Elementary
Calgary, Canada

The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched. 
They must be felt within the heart. 
—Helen Keller

Visit my blog, A Teacher's Ruminations, and post a message.
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Elisa
I have it also. I would be up to a discussionbut I have too much going  
on to lead it this year. Anyone else?
Jennifer


  

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Re: [MOSAIC] Guided reading

2009-06-14 Thread Joy
Teachers Applying Whole Language
The LearningNetwork

 
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Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 10:59:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Guided reading

what are these abbreviations for?





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Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:28:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Guided reading


And there are several who are on TAWL and TLN too.



  

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Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicitstrategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Joy

And the stories do not all have a happy ending. Many of you know the story 
about my son, who is now 24. He had a right temporal brain tumor, which was 
successfully removed. He was second in his class, an honor student with 2 part 
time jobs, manager of the football team, band member, good citizen of his 
school. He didn't want to give up his standing, and insisted on going right 
back to school, probably a little too early.

He was on quite a cocktail of anti-seizure, anti-inflammatory, 
anti-depressants, and pain meds. The school held an IEP/504 meeting where I was 
told my son was on drugs (no kidding, they all implied that he was on illicit 
drugs!) and was falling asleep in class (duh, he had a doctor's note explaining 
it would happen.) They yanked him out of regular classes, sending him to the 
alternative school. He completed a 15 hour class in a half day, and aced the 
exit exam. Their solution, make him do word associations for the rest of the 
term. We asked could he start another class, and they wouldn't hear it 
(something about seat time) I asked what about just letting him take the other 
class for enrichment, no way.

Plus, they had no one who could teach him advanced calculus II, or French.

Long story short, they dropped him from the rolls without telling us. He went 
to school one day, and they said What are you doing here, you're not enrolled 
any longer. so my son is an involuntary drop out. We looked into filing a law 
suit, but I was advised against it since I worked for the school system. He 
lost all respect for education, thinks it's a waste, won't get his GED or Adult 
HS Diploma, forget going to college. So I have a 24 yr old with a 180 IQ who 
sits at home all day playing Warcraft. Tell me about falling through the 
cracks, my son was swallowed.

 
Joy/NC/4
 
How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org



- Original Message 
From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 5:40:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach 
explicitstrategies?

Wow.
Here we are teachers discussing our own children trying to survive 
school.
Think about that.

Renee

On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Ljackson wrote:

 Some people lack a grand scheme of anything., IMO. His old 4/5 teacher, now 
 the math coach and among the coolest people I know, called him to tell him he 
 knew all along that there was something really special about the way his 
 brain worked. Had lots of examples of brilliant, successful artists and 
 musicians with similar issues, and painted the picture in glowing and 
 positive terms--how thinking outside the boz is what makes him who he is and 
 puts him a unique position to succeed in very non-traditional ways.  One look 
 at my son, with his bleach-tipped hair dipping over one eye and his funky 
 clothing choice tells me he was right, but hearing it from a teacher he 
 (we!!)  adored made all the difference in the world.  And Isaac wants to be 
 an artist/photographer/teacher, so he can use his understanding of how to 
 understand differently to tremendous creative advantage--if he can survive 
 high school. ;-=)
 
 
 Lori Jackson
 
 
 - Original message -
 From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach 
 explicitstrategies?
 
 And I also have an adult son, 32, a professional musician with a very
 high IQ, whose spelling and handwriting are just about the most
 atrocious I have ever seen. Spelling is so unimportant in the grand
 scheme of things.
 
 Renee
 
 On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Jan Sanders wrote:
 
 Wow Lori, I want to respond, but don't know what to say.  It truly is
 our
 personal experiences that lead us to understanding -in reading and
 life.
 
 My oldest son (29) who has a very high IQ, can not spell correctly to
 save
 his life, and it is difficult to read his writing.
 
 
 Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that
 matter.
 ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-14 Thread Joy

I also taught kids sewing at the county extension office before becoming a 
teacher. Found out a qualifier for running a sewing machine - reading. 
Seriously, the kids who could read could handle using a machine the ones who 
couldn't read had a much harder time with it. Maybe it was more cognitively 
tied to their age, but 5-6 year olds on a Singer were not successful if they 
couldn't read.

 
Joy/NC/4
 
How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org



- Original Message 
From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net
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Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 5:42:37 PM
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strategies?

hahaha Joy.

The first year my son was in high school, his best friend's mom and I were 
helping the dozen or so girls in the marching band color guard put elastics in 
the necks of their costumes/uniforms. She and I discovered that the ONLY 
students present who knew how to thread a needle and sew a button were OUR TWO 
SONS!  :-)

Renee


On Jun 14, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Joy wrote:

 omg, one of the defining moments that got me to quit my job and go back to 
 college and become a teacher was when camping with Girl Scouts. It was time 
 to prepare dinner, and being the constructivist that I am, I pretty much left 
 it up to the girls.(I didn't know that's what it is called) It wasn't very 
 long before I discovered that they did not know how to slice, chop, or peel 
 any vegetables or fruit. These girls were in middle school!
 
 Last year I brought in a chef who taught each child basic cutting skills, 
 allowing them to do the chopping, slicing, and peeling while he stood nearby. 
 The kids made 8 large trays of sushi for our international festival. They did 
 it ALL. I watched him teaching them, guiding them, and used what I learned 
 from him with my class this year. I plan to always give students experiences 
 with real life skills. I think parents today coddle their kids way too much.
 
 
 Joy/NC/4
 
 How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
 hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 10:51:29 AM
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] ***SPAM*** Re: Do we really need to teach explicit 
 strategies?
 
 Hi Deidra,
 
 I agree with you and whoever said that it is also due to parents' 
 expectations. I recall two years ago when I was working in a Kindergarten 
 classroom and we had a certain student who was VERY bright but who sometimes 
 just seemed to really lack confidence. Then one day we were making stone 
 soup and his mom came in to help with the vegetable preparation, etc. She 
 and I were working at a table together, calling each student over to cut up 
 the particular vegetable he/she had brought. While I was guiding each child 
 in the use of a knife, watching carefully while he or she did the cutting, 
 this mom was doing ALL the cutting FOR the child while the child watched her. 
 I kid you not. I got a huge insight that day.
 
 Renee
 
 On Jun 14, 2009, at 5:04 AM, djchan wrote:
 
 Renee,
 I am a retired teacher and I found these same problems when I taught. I 
 think it comes from adults in the child's life who are controlling and do 
 not allow the child to learn by mistakes. I once had a child (boy) in my 
 first grade classroom who was held back because of failure to perform. 
 Trying to get him to put anything on paper was a nightmare. He was so scared 
 of making a mistake that he refused to try to do anything. I later found out 
 his previous teacher stood over him while working and pointed out every 
 mistake he made and he had to do it all over. It took over half the school 
 year for him to relax and gain confidence in himself before he could write 
 anything other than his name on a piece of paper. He ended the year well but 
 had lots more 'trauma' to overcome from that year with the controlling 
 teacher. Children who have issues with self confidence ie Is this right? 
 have not been allowed to feel successful after a mistake and fear being wrong
  and punished. They don't understand that it's ok to make mistakes and that 
 mistakes are normal parts of learning.
 I hope you have a very successful school year next year.
 
 Deidra Chandler
 MA Reading
 MA Early Childhood Ed.
 ps. I teach adult education now and still find this same mentality among 
 them.
 
 - Original Message - From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net
 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
 Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 10:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?
 
 
 I teach Art

Re: [MOSAIC] Strategies for Stronger Readers

2009-06-14 Thread Joy
Teaching for Deep Comprehension?
 
Joy/NC/4
 
How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content go 
hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org
 





From: beverleep...@gmail.com beverleep...@gmail.com
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
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Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:44:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Strategies for Stronger Readers

I know you probably feel like you're on reading overload -- but a little but 
mighty book on readers' workshop is by Linda Dorn and Carla Soffos and it will 
really help your confidence and sense of practicality.  Check out amazon--I 
can't remember the book's name right now.
Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel

-Original Message-
From: Darlene Cook dscook...@yahoo.com

Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:34:16 
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email 
Groupmosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Strategies for Stronger Readers


Our school is implementing Reading Workshop (7 strategies). We have read many 
books by Ellin Keene, Debbie Miller, etcbut it still feels overwhelming on 
just how to get started. Did any of  you feel the same way?

Darlene S. Cook  KindergartenLone Oak ElementaryPaducah, Kentucky  
42001http://www.mccracken.k12.ky.us/loneoak/les/Teachers/dcook/home.htm 

--- On Fri, 6/12/09, Heather Green heath...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Heather Green heath...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Strategies for Stronger Readers
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 8:13 AM

The Reading Zone sounds like a very intruiging book!  Do libraries generally
have books like this? I hate to buy another book, but I really want to read
this one!!

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Stewart, L lstew...@branford.k12.ct.uswrote:

 Kim,
 Glad you butted in.  You said what I am thinking much more eloquently.  I
 have the book The Reading Zone ready to read for summer.  Thanks for
 reminding me.
 Leslie

 I hope you don't mind my butting in...
 My understanding of the strategies is that they become instinctual.  My
 middle school readers that are fluent readers find my reminding them of the
 strategies is cumbersome and destroys the entire reading experience.
  Nancie
 Atwell, in *The Reading Zone*, says she never teaches the basic reading
 strategies to experienced readers.  It would defeat the purpose.  If I have
 one really struggling in his/her reading, I would see what strategies
 he/she
 does use judge from there as to how to use the strategies.
 Kim
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Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-13 Thread Joy

All of this rich discussion leads me back to our upcoming examination of 
strategy instruction. One of the things I hope to garner from the discussion is 
the differentiation between strategy instruction say in K vs. 4th, or even HS.

 
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Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?


I think sometimes our teaching context influences how we interpret each  
other's posts...and apparently I have misunderstood the direction this thread  
was taking. 
I am glad that the intent was not to dismiss strategy teaching.

I do, respectfully, disagree with the thought that we do not need to give  
kids explicit language for strategies. I just feel that by doing so, I have  
elevated the levels of discussion with my students. I may have been 
teaching the  kids to comprehend when I simply asked them what would happen 
next...but I did  NOT get the rich discussion I do now. I think this is part of 
the 
push in our  field now to teach academic vocabulary...we need to give kids 
the words to  describe their thinking. 

I do agree that we don't need to teach strategies the same way, year after  
year. I do agree that we have gone overboard as a profession. I simply am  
arguing, as you are I think, that we need to closely watch our kids and give 
them what they need. SO...in answer to your last question, no...you 
weren't  wrong. I would have done the same thing.

Jennifer




In a message dated 6/12/2009 10:19:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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With all  due respect, I don't think anyone in replying to this post about 
explicit  strategies is saying not to teach them but rather how we are 
teaching them.  The focus in the last number of posts has been about developing 
 
'reader's thinking' and isn't that what teaching strategies is all about?  I 
doubt very much that you did not teach comprehension strategies when  you 
were teaching readinganyone who has ever talked about what has been  read 
with their students has been teaching comprehension strategies but just  
not giving all the 'elements' a name.  Asking your two year old, 'what do  you 
think is going to happen?' is teaching a strategy.  It starts from  the day 
we start reading to and with our kids.  We just never thought to  call it 
'inference' or 'making connections' or identifying which  'megacognitive' 
strategy was being developed at a particular time.  We  never thought to teach 
a 'strategy' a week because we were using all  strategies all
the time.  Tell me a teacher who has never said to a  class with a picture 
story book, 'what do you think this is going to be  about?' or, 'what is the 
picture telling you?  Or have you ever felt like  this, when and why?  And 
I'm not talking about superficial questions and  answers but when children 
are probed to explain their thinking and why. The  questions that are coming 
up over and over about teaching strategies has to do  with the 'contrived' 
nature of it that we are feeling now with teaching  reading comprehension.  
I'll never forget one of my students saying to  me this year when he was 
deeply engrossed in reading to please, please not  talk about it or ask him to 
stop and think about it as he was so enjoying what  he was doing?  I didn't 
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[MOSAIC] Summer reading

2009-06-13 Thread Joy
I want to send home summer reading choices for the rising 3rd and 4th grade 
students. I don't want a long list of books, just 3 or 4 titles they can choose 
to have read by the first day of school. I want us to start off the year with 
book talks about their reading and thinking. Anyone have any ideas of fun 
titles for this age group? The rising 4th grade students are mostly on or above 
grade level, the 3rd grade students are at or below grade level. I'm mostly 
worried about making the book accessible to all.

 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-13 Thread Joy

Renee,
This is a question that I asked about 5 or 6  years ago! I got shot down by 
several members here!

I think it is more important to have a discussion with the student that probes 
their thinking than it is to label the strategy. While naming the strategy is 
nice, to me what the students do is more important than what they call it. I 
think there is something to be said about having  common vocabulary, but the 
action is what matters most.

You know that I'm a constructivist at heart, as well.
 
Joy/NC/4
 

From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net

. . . But I am wondering whether, especially with confident readers, the 
strategies can be *taught* largely through the kinds of questions we ask 
children, so that they are pushed to use the strategies. For example, in a book 
discussion with a child, if we ask, what did you see in your mind's eye while 
you were reading this section would/could/should inherently push a child to 
learn to visualize. I guess I am looking at more of a natural and 
constructivist direction.


  

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Re: [MOSAIC] Guided reading

2009-06-13 Thread Joy
I'd be interested in that discussion. Also, how to blend in Marzano.

 
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From: Patricia Kimathi pkima...@earthlink.net
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Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 12:54:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Guided reading

Is anyone that uses and is thinking about using Daily5 interested in looking at 
how to combine Mosaic strategies with Daily 5 procedures.  I love both, but I 
am working on how to include the best of both worldssmoothly.
On Jun 13, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Courtney Cook wrote:

 I'm going to look into the Daily 5- Thanks for the suggestion.  And as far
 as the center activites go- I have academic times for guided reading
 centers, and then centers which revolve mostly around play and creative
 exploration.
 
 
 
 On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Melissa Kile tchkg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The Daily 5 is just for my literacy block. I teach 2nd grade, so we don't
 do
 other center activities. When I taught K (for 21 years, up to a couple
 years
 ago), I had a literacy center block AND a free choice center block (art,
 painting, blocks, legos, explore table, etc). Sometimes those centers
 included an academic activity or connection.
 
 I have a colleague in K that has modified D5 a bit for the little ones, but
 her D5 time is separate from center time.
 
 When I taught 1st, they occasionally had K-type centers as part of their
 reading contract.
 
 You can see that I've tried various management systems--Daily 5 beats them
 all for ease of management and kids' independence. Love it!!
 Melissa/VA/2nd
 
 On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Susan Cronk slhcr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Do they get to play and build in blocks, work at a water table, dress up,
 have a writing center with all kinds and sizes of paper, mini books,
 markers, pencils, gel pens for creative writing???
 
 On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Courtney Cook flynnte...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I currently teach kindergarten. I am wondering what independent lessons
 would benefit my students when I am working with another group.  So far
 I
 have students copy the morning message ( filling in the missing
 letters);
 make weekly picture dictionaries (using a current theme we are
 studying);
 glue poems in order and underline any sight words or rhyming words;
 listen
 to books on tape; and complete a word family packet.  What else could I
 have
 them do that could work for the variety of levels in my classroom??
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Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-13 Thread Joy

I'm not saying don't name the strategies, I'm saying it's more important that 
they do them.That doesn't mean I don't teach the strategies explicitly, it just 
means I don't emphasize naming them at first. And honestly, if they can do them 
effectively to help them understand what they are reading, that's all I care 
about. 


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From: Patricia Kimathi pkima...@earthlink.net
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Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 6:36:32 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

Joy,
I am a constructivist, also.  I have always taught by modeling and questioning. 
Mosaic helped my to organize my teaching using terminology.  I like teaching 
the terminology so that my students can have conversations about the 
strategies.  I am believe it is important to empower students, teaching them  
responsibility for their own learning.
On Jun 13, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Joy wrote:

 
 Renee,
 This is a question that I asked about 5 or 6  years ago! I got shot down by 
 several members here!
 
 I think it is more important to have a discussion with the student that 
 probes their thinking than it is to label the strategy. While naming the 
 strategy is nice, to me what the students do is more important than what they 
 call it. I think there is something to be said about having  common 
 vocabulary, but the action is what matters most.
 
 You know that I'm a constructivist at heart, as well.
 
 Joy/NC/4
 
 
 From: Renee phoenix...@sbcglobal.net
 
 . . . But I am wondering whether, especially with confident readers, the 
 strategies can be *taught* largely through the kinds of questions we ask 
 children, so that they are pushed to use the strategies. For example, in a 
 book discussion with a child, if we ask, what did you see in your mind's eye 
 while you were reading this section would/could/should inherently push a 
 child to learn to visualize. I guess I am looking at more of a natural and 
 constructivist direction.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-13 Thread Joy

Have you read Reading With Meaning?

 
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Joy,
I have always wanted to do this with my first graders but I sometimes have a
hard time with my non/struggling readers especially when you send them off
to read on their own.  Anyone care to explain how this would look in first
grade?

Joy posted:
Here's what I'm thinking, you start with a Read Aloud/Think Aloud. Then you
ask the students what they notice about your thinking. Ask them to define
what you are doing. Send them off to read, and conference with them
individually, being more explicit with those who need the explicit
instruction. I've noticed that frequently the students near the one I'm
conferencing with will join in the conversation, or at least listen
carefully.




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Re: [MOSAIC] Guided reading

2009-06-13 Thread Joy

And there are several who are on TAWL and TLN too.



  

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Re: [MOSAIC] Do we really need to teach explicit strategies?

2009-06-12 Thread Joy
There is an interesting discussion about Readacide going on here: 
http://englishcompanion.ning.com/group/ecnbookclubreadicide/forum/topics/readicide-let-the-discussion

 
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I just ordered Readacide and The Reading Zone from Amazon today. I can't
wait to get my hands on them!

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Stewart, L lstew...@branford.k12.ct.uswrote:

 Do you think it would be enough to teach just ONE strategy which would be
 Readers think while they read.

 Join the club.  I think we are absolutely killing reading with our zeal to
 teach strategies.  I am a voracious reader and I was not taught any specific
 strategies.  I was exposed to good literature and I had friends with whom I
 still talk about books thirty years later.  I know struggling readers need
 explicit instruction and everyone needs a level of exposure, but I really
 think we are going above and beyond.  Reading should be exciting and
 purposeful.  The first book I am reading this summer is Readicide.

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[MOSAIC] Strategy discussion

2009-06-09 Thread Joy

I've read the posts about the upcoming strategy discussion, and it strikes me 
that many of you are looking for lesson ideas rather thanmore forms, templates, 
or stuff. I know that we have the best teachers on this list, and this seems 
like a natural focus for us.

I'd like to add that I'd like to hear about specific texts you use with your 
class. While the strategies work with any text, I'm particularly interested in 
learning about reading selections used in various grades that provide a clear 
example of each strategy. (Mentor texts, if you will.)

I think it would be great for us to develop a list like this to help teachers 
who are beginning with strategy instruction. I'd be willing to keep a list of 
the texts and strategies, anyone willing to revise/edit the list to make sure I 
don't miss something?

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Re: [MOSAIC] Strategy discussion

2009-06-09 Thread Joy

Gwen,
Follow the discussion, and save the posts until I send you the list. Double 
check that I got the references for the titles and the strategies used correct. 
Also check that I got the correct author and spelled everything correctly. Then 
I will send it to Jennifer for approval. (Jennifer, does this sound ok to you?) 
I guess then either she or Keith will post it on the tools page.

Thanks for your help!

 
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- Original Message 
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Joy- 



I can help in any way. I just joined this discussion group, so I'm new at this. 



Gwen 



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Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 9:31:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [MOSAIC] Strategy discussion 


I've read the posts about the upcoming strategy discussion, and it strikes me 
that many of you are looking for lesson ideas rather thanmore forms, templates, 
or stuff. I know that we have the best teachers on this list, and this seems 
like a natural focus for us. 

I'd like to add that I'd like to hear about specific texts you use with your 
class. While the strategies work with any text, I'm particularly interested in 
learning about reading selections used in various grades that provide a clear 
example of each strategy. (Mentor texts, if you will.) 

I think it would be great for us to develop a list like this to help teachers 
who are beginning with strategy instruction. I'd be willing to keep a list of 
the texts and strategies, anyone willing to revise/edit the list to make sure I 
don't miss something? 

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Re: [MOSAIC] Mentor Texts

2009-06-09 Thread Joy

Wait until we get the strategy discussion going. I'm going to collect the text 
- strategy connections and create a document based on our discussion.

 
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I would love a mentor list for 3rd... 



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I would like a list of mentor texts for 2nd grade too if anyone has one. 

--- On Mon, 6/8/09, Moyer, Rob rmo...@pvsd.org wrote: 

 From: Moyer, Rob rmo...@pvsd.org 
 Subject: [MOSAIC] Mentor Texts 
 To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org mosaic@literacyworkshop.org 
 Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 6:48 AM 
 We are beginning to write Independent 
 Reading Workshop Unit sof Study.  We are trying to 
 match grade levels up with Great literature as mentor 
 text.  Does anyone have any suggestions for great 5th 
 Grade mentor texts?  or list of mentor texts by grade 
 level. 
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Strategy discussion

2009-06-09 Thread Joy

Absolutely!

This list will not replace the running discussion, but rather serve as a quick 
reference. Anyone out there interested in chronicling our discussion?

 
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Joy and Gwen
This works for me! I would rather we not just list books though. Let's talk 
about how we use them...and how kids react!
Jennifer
In a message dated 6/9/2009 9:49:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jwidm...@rocketmail.com writes:


Gwen,
Follow the discussion, and save the posts until I send you  the list. 
Double check that I got the references for the titles and the  strategies used 
correct. Also check that I got the correct author and spelled  everything 
correctly. Then I will send it to Jennifer for approval. (Jennifer,  does this 
sound ok to you?) I guess then either she or Keith will post it on  the tools 
page.

Thanks for your  help!


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Re: [MOSAIC] Textmapping for beginners

2009-06-08 Thread Joy
I'm not trying to put a damper on the enthusiasm, but want everyone to be aware 
of the issues. My thinking is similar to Dave's, and if you go to the link he 
provided, you can decide for yourself. I've been doing textmapping for 4 or 5  
years now, and haven't had anyone deny my request.

 
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From: Dave Middlebrook davemiddlebr...@verizon.net
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mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2009 1:56:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Textmapping for beginners

Getting permission is the safest route.  Another approach is to buy two 
copies of the book, cut the spines off, and then make your scroll from that. 
That's what I do most of the time.  It's faster and easier, and the quality 
is better than you get with photocopies.

And then there's the copying route.  Infringement or Fair Use?  I can't say 
for sure where the line is on this issue.  There may never be one.  Here's 
my stab at it: http://www.textmapping.org/fairUse.html

I am a bit rushed today and so must cut this short.  But I have irons in the 
fire on this.  More another time.

Thanks for your interest,

- Dave

Dave Middlebrook
The Textmapping Project
A resource for teachers improving reading comprehension skills instruction.
www.textmapping.org   |   Please share this site with your colleagues!
USA: (609) 771-1781
dmiddlebr...@textmapping.org

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 While this is a good idea, make sure you get permission from the 
 publisher. You don't want to break copyright.


 Joy/NC/4

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 go hand in hand. http://www.responsiveclassroom.org





 
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 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
 mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
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 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Textmapping for beginners

 Love the idea of laminating the scroll on butcher paper. Then you can also
 use overhead markers to mark it each year.  Thanks for the idea, Lori!

 I wrote about using scrolls to teach nonfiction features here:
 http://www.classroom20.com/profiles/blogs/649749:BlogPost:190834

 Dave--when is your book coming out?

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Re: [MOSAIC] possible weekly study of strategies?

2009-06-07 Thread Joy
I think it's always a great idea to revisit the strategies. I'm busy this 
summer, but would like to participate. Count me in!

 
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From: Sharon Hall lh...@cinci.rr.com
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Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2009 7:37:40 PM
Subject: [MOSAIC] possible weekly study of strategies?

I am fairly new to this group and now that I'm out for the summer I feel
like I have time to really think about how to use the different strategies
as well as research more information.  Forgive me if this has been done, but
would anyone be interested in doing a weekly study of each of the strategies
- for example, one week on questioning, the next on visualizing, etc?  Each
week we could talk about different resources you use, books, strategies for
teaching and sharing any materials you have created.  I'd be willing to
create a website linking anything shared so that we could all have ready
access to the materials.



If this has been done already or you know of somewhere with all of this
information, please let me know.  If you are interested in doing a weekly
strategy study, please respond and perhaps we can set something up.



Sharon

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Re: [MOSAIC] New teacher. How do I make ELA fun?

2009-06-06 Thread Joy
Grade level? State? Have you read read Reading with Meaning, Mosaic of Thought 
or Strategies That Work?

 
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Subject: [MOSAIC] New teacher. How do I make ELA fun?




Hello:



I am a new teacher. I am looking for a position in the older grades in 
Elementary (4th, 5th) and I do not like ELA. I love math. I can teach ELA but I 
want to make it fun and interesting. If you guys have any suggestions please 
let me know. Thank you. 

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Re: [MOSAIC] 7th grade position

2009-06-06 Thread Joy
I agree with Bev, To Understand is amazing and has brought me to another level, 
but it is not a place to begin.

 
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I agree.  Exception might be that it wpould definitely NOT be introductory.
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:18:30 
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Definitely To Understand it is a must for all teachers. It would be a
great for the summer because it is deep and you'll need time to process
and reflect.

Not sure about The book whisperer I haven't read it--- yet. But Andrea
just responded on the list-serv that she has read and like it. Maybe see
what she thinks.

Enjoy,
Rhonda






Rhonda are these books written for a first grade teacher also or just
 middle school?
 Dee


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 Congrats to you! What a great opportunity.

 I'd suggest To Understand by Ellin Keene-- Since it is an advanced
 class
 you can REALLY focus on deep understanding. I have read this book twice
 and parts of it multiple times. ---Incredible approach to teaching!!!

 I also just received from Amazon today in the mail--(can't wait to dig
 in)
 A new author Donalyn Miller The Book Whisperer This teacher discusses
 how she engaged students to read 40 books a year and how reading and
 scores improved.

 Good Luck and have fun!!!

 Rhonda





  I was recently offered a position teaching an advanced 7th grade
 reading
 class! I'm very excited but also a little overwhelmed in trying to
 decide
 what I need to do to prepare. The class is new next year so it's
 pretty
 open
 as to where I take it.

 I would love to incorporate lit circles this requires ordering new
 books.
 Any suggestions on how to organize the lit circles? Based on genre?
 Author?
 Theme?

 Any suggestions on novels? The advanced 8th grade teacher is using a
 lot
 of
 classic texts so I'd like to go more contemporary.

 Any advice would be much appreciated!
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Re: [MOSAIC] (no subject)

2009-06-06 Thread Joy
Ditto what Lori said times ten!

 
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From: Ljackson ljack...@gwtc.net
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Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2009 7:55:37 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] (no subject)


Teach them to love to learn. Make them want it bad. Teach them to share, play 
nice and think deeply. Don't turn it into kindergarten--they have so little 
time to be children these days. Sing and dance. Explore. Read to them--lots. 
Play blocks, dress-up and pretend--we see so many coming to school who don't 
seem to know how to be fanciful and imaginative.  



Lori Jackson
District Literacy Coach and Mentor
Todd County School District
Box 87
Mission SD 5755

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Date: Saturday, June 06, 2009  2:43 PM
Subject: [MOSAIC] (no subject)

 Hi my name is Mary Jo and I am an early childhood educator currently working 
 in a pre-k classroom. My question is directed toward Kindergarten teachers 
 however all teaching levels are welcome to respond. My question is : What can 
 I do as a teacher in a pre-k classroom to help prepare the children for the 
 literacy expectations that occur in kindergarten. With the push down of 
 curriculm so much more is expected of kindergarteners and I want to do all 
 that I can to ensure their success in kindergarten.
  
 Mary Jo
 
 
  
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Re: [MOSAIC] Textmapping for beginners

2009-06-05 Thread Joy
Very nice, Dave. I like that you included walking on the scroll, I find that 
important.

 
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Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Textmapping for beginners

Hi Diane,

I'll start with a simple idea: Try scrolling a short novel that the students 
have read, and post the scroll on the wall somewhere in the room.  Do a quick 
walk-through summary -- literally, by walking along the scroll and saying what 
happens.  As you walk and talk, make marks or use sticky notes along the 
scroll.  You'll come back to these later.  Encourage your students to interrupt 
you as you are doing this.  They may want to mention something that you  missed 
-- for example, an observation about the plot or the characters, or some 
detail.  Others may want to weigh in, as well. Encourage conversation.  Post 
sticky notes to record student observations. Have them tell you where the notes 
should go.  If a student needs to find a particular event so that a note can be 
posted there, have the other students help -- tell them that their job is to be 
detectives.  If, for instance, one student finds an event that happened before 
the one in question, that's a
 useful clue as to where to look.  Help your students be strategic about 
bracketing and homing in on specific parts.  These are useful searching skills 
that are even more important in bound books.

If you let the students engage and share their thoughts, you will likely not 
make it through your summary.  I'd consider that a success!  Student engagement 
in the conversation is the real goal.  You're walk-through is just a 
conversation-starter.  The scroll will help your students remember the story.  
It will help them generate questions and inferences.  I will help them 
determine importance.  It will help them with sequencing, recalling details, 
and putting it all together for a much richer comprehension.

There are significant differences between the process of doing this by paging 
through a bound book and doing this on a scroll.  The spatial diimension -- the 
physical sense of the scroll's length and of where different observations tie 
to the text (the scatter-plot trail of sticky notes -- is very powerful.  The 
fact that you and your students can see it all at once is very powerful.

You can do a lot with scrolls.  If this sounds like it might work for you, then 
save it and use it.  Contact me if you want to talk through the lesson in more 
detail.  Or if this doesn't sound right for you, tell me what you might be 
starting off with next Fall and I'll suggest a way that scrolls can help 
improve the lesson.

I hope that this is helpful.  Thanks for your interest!

- Dave

Dave Middlebrook
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www.textmapping.org   |   Please share this site with your colleagues!
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Subject: [MOSAIC] Textmapping for beginners


 
 
 Hi!
 I am going to be teaching fourth graders next fall and just heard about the 
 idea of textmapping. I find it intriquing. No one I know has heard of this 
 concept at my school, so my students will not have any previous experience 
 with it. Can you give suggestions on how to begin and types of text to use?
 
 
 
 
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[MOSAIC] book suggestions

2009-05-13 Thread Joy Milner
Does anyone have any inspirational books they can recommend reading to  
elementary students?



Thanks in advance for any suggestions.


Joy

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Re: [MOSAIC] Big Words/reaching kids

2008-06-04 Thread Joy
Lori,
  I see this too, and this again points to the gap between the haves and have 
nots. The internet is another source that can impact kids experiences. Again, a 
have and have not issue. 
   
  This is why I've started trying to give kids who I know or suspect don't have 
the Internet at home first licks at the computer. I try to teach them the new 
technology skills first. In addition, I'm trying to teach kids who are 
struggling in the classroom these skills first, as well. since I've started 
doing this I've noticed gains in the kids who fit into this category. More self 
confidence (they are now the purveyors of important knowledge), more engagement 
with projects involving technology, and improvement in their projects.
   
  I'd never thought about this as being important until I heard Dr. Lieu from 
UConn speak this spring. He really opened my eyes. 
http://www.newliteracies.uconn.edu/ 
   
   
   


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Re: [MOSAIC] passion and emotion in teaching

2008-06-04 Thread Joy
Bonita,
  Yes, that awe and excitement is what I try to keep in mind when planning my 
projects for the year. (Which is what I'm supposed to be doing right now, my 
first 9 weeks unit plans are due and we haven't even ended this year yet!!!)
   
  The hard part is starting the year and discovering what excites students you 
barely know. This is why I try to plan the first 4-6 weeks with lessons that 
teach them how to. How to make books, how to use the calculator, how to write 
a reading response, how to show your work in math, how to select a topic for 
writing, how to write in your writer's notebook, how to take notes during mini 
lessons, how to be a member of a lit circle, how to (glue, paint, cut, etc.), 
how to create your own projects, etc.
   
  This year I discovered most of my students were fascinated by chemistry, so I 
tried to add a chemistry connection into every science unit, and added some 
chemistry whenever we had a bit of time. Nothing too complicated, things like 
observing molecules moving through a liquid.
   
  Next year should be interesting, my class size will be almost double, and 
there are only a few girls! Yikes!
   
  I also find it interesting that the teachers check for the awe. I'd like to 
read the wording of that, it would be interesting to track!





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[MOSAIC] Keith, I'm not getting all messages

2008-06-04 Thread Joy
Hey Keith,
  I've unsubscried from the digest, and I still don't think I'm getting all the 
emails sent out. I'll see a reply to a message and I've never seen the 
original. I wonder what's going on? Do you Have any ideas?
   
  Thanks so much,


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Re: [MOSAIC] Big Words

2008-06-03 Thread Joy
I'm finding myself smiling and nodding to everyone's posts.
   
  Vocabulary development stems from many things you've all mentioned, but I 
really think I agree most with those who mentioned reading volume as a 
vocabulary booster. When the author finds the exact specific word to describe 
the action it can raise those chillbumps on your arm, make your mind soar, or 
catch like a hiccup in your throat. This is why read aloud/think alouds are so 
important, even in the intermediate and upper grades. 
   
  Helping kids know all the different ways (for example: water can be wet) is a 
beginning for understanding (there's that pesky word again) the vast semantic 
diversity in our language. I think most of us here would agree that worksheeets 
are not the way. And sometimes experiences are not practical (For example, a 
trip to the beach for the kids in Lori's district). So how do we transfer the 
knowledge in authentic ways without the experiences? How do we teach abstract 
concepts that are not tangible? Can students learn what freedom or democracy 
are without experiencing tyranny?
   
  OK I've gone off the deep end again, but I'm enjoying floating around. Keep 
up the talk everyone!
   
   


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[MOSAIC] Big Words

2008-05-31 Thread Joy
This came through my email, and I thought it would be of interest to many on 
this list. I remember many suggesting Isabel Beck for vocabulary instruction. 
The link is to an article that further explains why this is beneficial.
   
  SATURATE BEFORE SOAK: EARLY LEARNERS CAN HANDLE BIG WORDS
Researchers now believe that students in primary grades can acquire
more advanced words earlier than previously thought, reports Laura
Pappano in her article Small Kids, Big Words: Research- Based
Strategies for Building Vocabulary from Pre- K to Grade 3 in Harvard
Education Letter. It is now felt that the mechanism for learning new
vocabulary isn't the same as that for learning new math skills, where
easier concepts are the building blocks for more complicated skills.
Words are not related hierarchically, said Isabel Beck of the
University of Pittsburgh. You can learn ˜saturated' before you learn
˜soak'. What's more, children seem to enjoy it. More advanced words
also enrich conceptual understanding and enhance reading ability as a
student progresses. It's especially important in closing the achievement
gap for students who arrive to early grades with a limited vocabulary,
and for English Language Learners. 
http://www.edletter.org/insights/bigwords.shtml


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[MOSAIC] Marzano - Margaret

2008-05-25 Thread Joy
Margaret,
  I teach at a charter school and am not familiar with training given by the 
county. It's sad, but unfortunately, charter schools are frequently left out of 
the loop when it comes to changes and their implementation. I wish NCDPI would 
do something so that information and needed training would get to teachers, or 
that there was a way that charter school teachers could attend county training 
(maybe at a nominal cost?)
   


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[MOSAIC] State Standardized tests - marking text

2008-05-24 Thread Joy
In NC students are allowed to mark in the test book, and may even use 
highlighters (if this strategy was taught and used in class). I'm not aware of 
the use of sticky notes during testing.
   
   


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[MOSAIC] State Testing - Marzano focus?

2008-05-24 Thread Joy
My fourth grade students take the NC end of grade test starting next Wednesday, 
Thursday, and Friday. I am nervous about it because we've heard that the state 
switched the emphasis from MOT strategies to Marzano and Pickering's 
strategies. (Yet I've not heard of any state sponsored training for teachers 
regarding the switch or the new strategies.)
   
  Is this something that those who have given the test have seen? Obviously, 
there is nothing I can do at this time to influence what my students do this 
year. If this is something many of us see regarding the test, then I may need 
to change my practices for next year to include this. Also, rereading the book 
with would be beneficial, as would seeking training.
   
  I also wonder what the more academic of us out there think? Have you compared 
and contrasted the strategies? What are the differences? What would you suggest 
I add to my instruction that would help me bring in this focus? Are there any 
discussion groups for this type of instruction?


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[MOSAIC] Digest Burden

2008-05-04 Thread Joy
Keith, I have to agree and disagree with you. There is a burden involved with 
being a digest subscriber, but it is not 20 off topic messages. 
   
  As a subscriber to the digest, I have to tell everyone that the biggest 
burden to digest subscribers is folks who absent-mindedly forget to delete the 
previous discussion text before posting their reply. I know it's not 
intentional, but it does scramble things up significantly. (A real 
comprehension issue for me!) Somemtimes I cannot tell who is responding, or 
what they are saying because everything is so heavily embedded in previous 
posts and all the junk that's tagged onto each post.
   
  I've been guilty of this in the past, and don't claim that I've totally 
erradicated it from my habits, but I do try to only include the most succint 
points I'm responding to when I reply. And I appreciate others who do, as well. 
   
  Just my two cents.
   
   
   


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[MOSAIC] Off Topic Math discussion

2008-05-03 Thread Joy
Jennifer, and all other Mosaic members,
   
  I love this group dearly, and respect the opinions and information shared. 
This is where I get my intellectual fix. If the discussions are taken off the 
list, then I fear I, and others will miss out in the rich discussions about 
what matters most - how to help my students understand what they need. I post 
in fits and spurts, but that doesn't mean I'm not reading and nodding my head, 
and pondering what you all are talking about.
   
  I'm hungrily eating up the discussion about EDM, and math instruction in 
general. There are no math groups that equal this group for intellegent, 
respectful discourse. As long as the OT label is included, can't folks just 
skip the message if they are not interested?
   
  Or, is there some way that a general discussion group about best practices in 
instruction could be started? Would anyone on this list be interested?
   
  I'm yearning for more,
   


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[MOSAIC] Research Reading/Writing Connection

2008-04-27 Thread Joy
Does anyone know of any research for the reading/writing connection or using 
mentor texts for reading/writing strategies?
   
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[MOSAIC] Online Comprehension

2008-04-20 Thread Joy
Maybe I didn't describe what Dr. Leu was talking about accurately enough. He's 
not talking about literacy as decoding per se, but as using specific strategies 
to understand information online. His description of these strategies brought 
connections to Mosaic and Strategies That Work to my mind. The strategies he 
outlines are:
   
  Understand and Develop Questions - both teacher and student generated
  Locate Information - Using a Search Engine
  Locate Information - Within a Website
  Critically Evaluate Information - Identifying Bias and Stance, Reliability, 
and Accuracy
  Synthesize Information
  Communicate Information
   
  He is describing a new type of literacy necessary to use the online tools to 
learn. He also talked about learning to learn.
   
  There is more information here: 
  http://www.newliteracies.uconn.edu/events.html
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[MOSAIC] Online Reading Comprehension

2008-04-18 Thread Joy
Yesterday I attended a lecture by Donald Leu, How Reading Comprehension Has 
Changed While We Weren't Looking.
   
  I learned that online reading has some novel literacy skills; however, many 
connected back to Ellin's work. Questioning is very important. Students must be 
able to identify important questions because in order to do a search or analyze 
the results they have to know what question they are trying to answer. They 
must citically evaluate the usefullness of the information, or determine 
importance. They must synthesize the information in order to answer their 
questions. Finally, they must communicate what they learn to others. Dr. Leu 
asserts that your create your own text with each click.
   
  The biggest problem he sees is that there is no correlation between state 
reading tests and online reading. Evidently the US is way behind the rest of 
the world in this respect. He showed us data that indicates that being able to 
read online well is not correlated to high/low reading abilities, and that the 
kids who tested poorly in traditional reading actually scored the highest for 
online reading. He believes teaching online reading skills to the less able 
readers is the way to go (rather than allowing students who finish first to go 
online, he suggests starting the lowest readers online, and allowing them to 
teach and scaffold their peers.)
   
  I join faculty, staff, and graduate students at NC State today for a lunch 
discussion about the New Literacies today. I hope to learn more, and make 
more connections. This is fascinating. 
   
  Has anyone else had any experience with this? Do you see the things he 
describes?


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Re: [MOSAIC] Writing to be displayed for public viewing-should it be perfect?

2008-04-13 Thread Joy
Susan,
  I attended a workshop given by J. Richard Gentry, and his suggestion was for 
the teacher to write below the child's text so the child could learn from a 
correct model. (Their words translated by you) He's done loads of research, 
and I'd bet he'd answer an email. Here's his website: 
http://www.jrichardgentry.com/
   
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[MOSAIC] NC Writing Workshop presenter

2008-04-06 Thread Joy
Hi Mary,
  I'm in NC, too. If you contact Dr. Ruie Pritchard at NCSU ([EMAIL 
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the Capital Area Writing Project. If you aren't close to Raleigh she may be 
able to direct you to another Writing Project center near you.
   
  If you contact me next year, I will be able to help as I've been selected as 
a fellow for this summer!
   
  Good Luck!
   
   
  My school division is grades 1-4. We are interested in finding a good
writing workshop leader who might come for a professional day. We are in
North Carolina. Does anyone have a suggestion about something they have
heard or worked with and felt was a great and inspiring leader?

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Re: [MOSAIC] Mosaic Digest, Vol 20, Issue 5

2008-04-05 Thread Joy
Amy and Elisa,
  Thanks. I'd never heard of him before, either. I respect the opinions of our 
members. I have a friend who teaches at UConn, but she's in the Foreign 
Language Dept, and hasn't heard of him!
   
  I guess what I want to know is if he's more of a whole language or phonics 
guy. Maybe it doesn't matter since the kind of reading he will be talking about 
is more for older students. 
   
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[MOSAIC] Need info on Donald Leu

2008-04-04 Thread Joy
Does anyone know of this man's work? I've an invitation to hear him speak in a 
couple of weeks. Just like a heads up to see if it's worth taking a personal 
day and the hour and a half drive.
   
  http://www.education.uconn.edu/directory/details.cfm?id=46
   
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Re: [MOSAIC] Book for reluctant boys and girls

2008-03-22 Thread Joy
Today's Choice Literacy message suggested some beginning graphic novels. Two 
that looked interesting were new versions of The Babysitter's Club and Time 
Warp Trio.

MaryJane Waite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  . . . What next? I hope to locate 
some similar reads, so if you know of any
other books that would continue the fire; send those titles my way.

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[MOSAIC] Book for reluctant boys

2008-03-21 Thread Joy
My fourth grade boys went ga ga for Diary of a Wimpy Kid #1 and #2 by Jeff 
Kinney. One boy read it, and couldn't keep his eyes out of it. When his friends 
finally plied him from the book, that's all he could talk about Soon, every boy 
had a copy of the book, and they had formed their own lit circle for it. About 
the time I knew what had happened, they finished the book and moved on to book 
#2 Somedays are diamonds . . . 

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Re: [MOSAIC] Taberski at MRA

2008-03-21 Thread Joy
These comments sparked a connection for me:
  
 Could that be why people think the strategies may be developmental? Because 
 of the assessments that are used?
 

 . . .  I am beginning to think that many of the comprehension problems I am 
seeing with my struggling readers stem from a lack of experience and 
conversation. If we spend more time on conversations and discussions and less 
on pencil paper activities and assessment  . . .
   
  I'm behind on my reading, but this conversation has me thinking about how I 
assess my kiddos. As many of you know, I teach at a project based school. We 
don't give grades, I write holistic narratives about each of my students. (one 
reason why I'm behind on my reading, our Report Cards went home with the 
students yesterday.)
   
  While I'm not able to give any suggestions about how to assess students in a 
way that would transfer to grades, I can speak to some of the informal things I 
do with my kids. I do assess them in more formal ways, but find the informal 
assessment is the most useful for writing narratives about individual progress 
and acheivement.
   
  Of course I conference with them during Self Selected Reading time. I have 
them read to me, and we talk about their reading and their thinking. I also 
have Book Talks where they tell the class about what they are reading during 
SSR, and the students ask them questions or offer comments about that book. 
While they are doing this, I'm taking notes on 5x7 index cards. 
   
  Because I just finished writing the narratives, these comments are fresh in 
my mind. I noticed some kids making connections in their talk, others in their 
comments. I noticed students using sensory details and metacognition in their 
talk, and others telling about questions they asked themselves while reading. 
Still others I noticed using inferences and fix up strategies when meaning 
broke down. I noticed the progression from surface questions to deeper 
questioning skills in some of the students. I really think this daily ten 
minute sharing time is some of the most valuable time we spend.




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Re: [MOSAIC] off topic Poetry title

2008-03-18 Thread Joy
I just bought:
  Poetry Speaks to Children it comes with a CD that has recordings of 50 poems.
   
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Re: [MOSAIC] Guided Reading in Intermediate?-Joy

2008-03-11 Thread Joy
Rhonda,
  I like the language she uses when talking with students. I love the respect 
she has for children, the way she honors them and their work. The Art of 
Teaching Writing is worth the time and effort. I read it for the second time 
two summers ago. If I didn't have such a deep stack of must reads I'd read it 
again this summer.

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Tell me what you like about Lucy Calkins writing. 

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Re: [MOSAIC] middle school reading assessment.

2008-03-09 Thread Joy
Personally, I'd love this discussion to stay here. It is related to literacy, 
it is important, and as long as we treat the topic and each other's opinions 
and experiences with respect, I believe we can all learn something about how to 
use Mosaic more effectively to help our students improve their reading (for 
pleasure, for adacemics, and yes, for the test.)
  
gina nunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have to chime in and agree about the need for multi-assessments. I have had 
students who scored high on the SRI (scholastic reading inventory), low on the 
state test, and middle of the road on QRI. I use a spread sheet that has all 
the data side by side so I can surmise who really needs a closer looking at.

In regards to Lori's plea for continuing discussion about middle level reading 
assessment I would be thrilled to do that. 

Moderators- Do we need to do this off this site?

Our campus is trying to create an RtI model and of course progress monitoring 
is the hurdle for us. QRI, STAR, SRI are all just to identify reading 
levelsthey don't give short term assessment for learning information.

You know I am on this list because I am a believer in MOT and strategy work. 
But I have to be honest...my attempt at using Ellin's strategy interview 
bombed. I just couldn't squeeze it in, and then I had trouble using it in a way 
that I could bring to campus meetings. 

What I think is at the core of the progress monitoring dilemma is coming to 
agreement on what you want to assess in reading. That then tells you of course 
what you will be assessing on a frequent basis. I have to speak the language of 
the campus committee but I am trying to avoid target goals like will build 
vocabularywho decides that list? 

I'll stop before I babble. Again I'd like to have this ongoing conversation. 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Online Reading Sites Needed

2008-03-08 Thread Joy
Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, we are looking for something that is 
available free, or at very low cost. Neither the school or his parents can 
afford the price of this.

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something for him.



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Re: [MOSAIC] Online Reading Sites Needed

2008-03-08 Thread Joy
Thanks for reminding me! I was so overwhelmed after our IEP meeting, and feel 
very brain dead. That will be a great place to start!
   
  I love your idea about the boys reading club. He is a real popular kid, and 
he could lead younger boys who would really look up to him. Then he wouldn't 
feel so weird reading below level books because he would have a purpose for 
having them - I envision this making him very proud.
   
  Thanks so much for this suggestion!

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This may not be what you're really looking for, but have you checked out
www.guysread.com ? It's created by Jon Scieszka - so you know it rocks!
From the website: Guys Read is a web-based literacy program made to
help boys find stuff they like to read. I absolutely LOVE the mission
statement of the website: Our Mission

Our mission is to motivate boys to read by connecting them 
with materials they will want to read, in ways they like to read. 
Our mission is to: 
1. Make some noise for boys.
We have literacy programs for adults and families. GUYS READ is our
chance to call attention to boys’ literacy. 
2. Expand our definition of reading.
Include boy-friendly nonfiction, humor, comics, graphic novels, action-
adventure, magazines, websites, and newspapers in school reading. Let
boys know that all these materials count as reading. 
3. Give boys choice.
Motivate guys to want to read by letting them choose texts they will
enjoy. Find out what they want. Let them choose from a new, wider range
of reading. 
4. Encourage male role models.
Men have to step up as role models of literacy. What we do is more
important than all we might say. 
5. Be realistic. Start small.
Boys aren’t believing that “Reading is wonderful.” Reading is often
difficult and boring for them. Let’s start with “Here is one
book/magazine/text you might like.” 
6. Spread the GUYS READ word.
Encourage people to use the information and downloads on this site to
set up their own chapters of GUYS READ, and get people thinking about
boys and reading. 


There is an anthology of stories wriiten by guys - for guys and I went
to the find a book feature, typed in 'dragons' and came up with 178
recommended books. There are also links to over a hundred websites of
authors who write 'boy-friendly' books. Maybe the site would help to
'hook' this reluctant guy reader? I teach 3rd and my boys love this
site! Even if your little guy could just use the site at school to
spark an interest in a book, he could check it out from the library that
day and might be more motivated to read it at home that night. Maybe
let him start his own little 'guys read' club and give them a few
minutes at the start of the day to talk with each other about what they
read the night before. 

I was also wondering if you thought you might be able to find funding
for one of those handheld reading devices that you can download ebooks
onto? Maybe the handheld would be motivating?

Good luck to you and him!

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Does anyone know of any good on line reading sites that don't require a
lot of bandwidth? I have a struggling fourth grade student who will do
anything on the computer. We are hoping to find him some reading
material on line. He is reading at DRA level 20. He doesn't have a
printer, and his Internet connection is dial up. e really need something
he can use with a computer to hook him.

I have a subscription to Reading A-Z, but I don't think that will
inspire him. He likes dragons and magic, and Harry Potter. He's a boy's
boy if you know what I mean. Adventure, pirates, rough and tumble. He's
well liked by his peers, and would rather be a non-reader than be seen
with a picture book, or anything he perceives as for babies.

Thanks in advance.


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[MOSAIC] Online Reading Sites Needed

2008-03-07 Thread Joy
Does anyone know of any good on line reading sites that don't require a lot of 
bandwidth? I have a struggling fourth grade student who will do anything on the 
computer. We are hoping to find him some reading material on line. He is 
reading at DRA level 20. He doesn't have a printer, and his Internet connection 
is dial up. e really need something he can use with a computer to hook him.
   
  I have a subscription to Reading A-Z, but I don't think that will inspire 
him. He likes dragons and magic, and Harry Potter. He's a boy's boy if you 
know what I mean. Adventure, pirates, rough and tumble. He's well liked by his 
peers, and would rather be a non-reader than be seen with a picture book, or 
anything he perceives as for babies.
   
  Thanks in advance.


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Re: [MOSAIC] Guided Reading in Intermediate/now K

2008-03-04 Thread Joy
Jane,
  Building Blocks is for Kindergarten.
   
  Have you read Reading With Meaning by Debbie Miller? Her book is like a road 
map for primary grades. I believe her class was second grade, but you can adapt 
what she does for your little ones.
   
   
  

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In a message dated 3/3/2008 10:40:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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Joy - I appreciate your kind words! It is so much fun hearing from people
the paths they have taken. Pat has been a blessing in my life. I don't
know if you have read Pat's and my newest book, Beyond Retelling Toward
Higher Level Thinking and Big Ideas, by Cunningham and Smith, published by
Pearson, Allyn and Bacon. It is a great comprehension teaching tool that
many teachers have found helpful.
deb


Here comes my usual questionwhat grade levels is this for? will I find 
it useful for me in Kindergarten? 
I know this is where retelling and comprehension get their foundation. 

I ordered To Understand at the end of last week and got it yesterday. WOW! 
It isn't 6AM yet, and I have already been reading this morning. WOW! Jane 
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Re: [MOSAIC] texts to teach connections

2008-03-04 Thread Joy
I also like Cynthia Rylant's The Relatives Came to teach connections.



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Re: [MOSAIC] Guided Reading in Intermediate?

2008-03-03 Thread Joy
Deb,
  The Four Blocks series of books is what led me to MOT, via Debbie Miller's 
Reading With Meaning. Although I now teach fourth grade, many of the 
procedures, strategies, and philosophies still thread their way through my 
lessons every day. 
   
  (BTW, Deb, your book led me to Lucy Calkins and the world of writing 
workshop. I can't imagine teaching any other way now!)




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Re: [MOSAIC] vowel sounds

2008-02-28 Thread Joy
Lori,
  I stand with you, but refuse to duck. My kids not only read well, but make 
unbelievable gains in their testing, across the board. (Not that testing is 
everything, but it's hard to ignore 30 and 40% gains for every single child who 
walks in my door.)

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  I am going to say this and run for cover. I never, in thirteen years in the 
primary classroom, taught long and short vowel sounds. I would say things like, 
Sometimes when we see an e at the end of a work like this (like) it sounds 
like the i we hear in vine. My kids read extremely well. This ability to 
identify sounds as long and short seems to me to oversimplify thngs 
liguistically speaking and though this requirement has resurcased in our state 
standards, I guess I don't get it.

Ducking,
Lori

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