Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop test taking

2012-02-25 Thread Linda DeGreen
I second Pauline's thoughts. I would also add that I teach the QAR  
strategy at the beginning of the year and then we use this and other  
test taking strategies to answer questions in a test format throughout  
the year.
We teach test taking as a separate genre. Kids need to know how the  
elements or characteristics of tests work , the same way they  
understand the elements of reading a mystery or any other genre .

Linda

On Feb 24, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Pauline K Nagle wrote:

I would suggest teaching test taking as a genre, a type of reading  
that has
a specific structure and way to comprehend it.  Lucy Calkins has a  
good
book about this, but I can't recall the name.  I will find the title  
and
send it to you.  I think students need to learn how to tackle the  
text and
how to handle the type of questions, and this must be taught as a  
skill set
and practiced.  But it does not need to take over your reader's  
workshop or
reading instruction.  You just need to teach how the comprehension  
skills
they use in their independent reading texts can be applied on an  
excerpt

and how the questions are asked.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 6:58 PM, evelia cadet  
cadeteve...@hotmail.comwrote:







As I have said before, this is the first year I am following the  
Reader's
Workshop model.  My district does not follow/support reader's  
workshop.  I
am lucky to have the freedom in my school to use any teaching  
structure I
want.  Out of almost 70 teachers, only 2 teachers in my school are  
doing
reader's workshop.  We are trying to convert the other teachers in  
our
campus.  They are noticing how our students are engaged in reading  
and are

forming a reading community that is extending outside the classroom.
However, people in my school are data driven (specifically  
standardized
testing data), and they will not consider any instructional method,  
unless
there is tangible evidence they drive results (standardized state  
testing).

Ok, this was just the introduction, here is my concern.  My students
seemed to be enjoying reading and they are showing evidence of
understanding/applying the comprehension strategies/skills we are  
working
on in class.  Nevertheless, when they take one of those practice  
test we
are required to give, everything seems to go downhills.  It is like  
they
are unable to transfer what we are learning with authentic  
literature to
the context of the test.  I honestly don't know what to do.  I know  
there
are people in my school, including some in the administration,  
waiting to

see what impact reader's workshop has on test results.  Any ideas or
advices.  HELP!!  Thank you.

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Re: [MOSAIC] Guided Reading Research

2011-09-12 Thread Linda DeGreen
This sounds like the old tracking ability model. If you google that,  
lots of articles come up. Guided reading may or may not be  
specifically addressed. But GR groupings are meant to be flexible so  
how would that work if they are tracked?
And my gut feeling is this is bad for kids who have no other  
experiences for working with students at different levels. For  
example, low readers will  have few peer role models in class. My  
personal experience  to your research.


On Sep 12, 2011, at 5:17 AM, Shannon McDonald wrote:


I'm looking for research regarding guided reading.

At my school the students are grouped by reading level and then  
switch classes for guided reading (i.e.: I might have all the kids  
who are at level J-L, most of them are not in my homeroom).


I'm wondering if there is any research supporting this model.   
Alternately, I'm looking for research that supports keeping the  
students with their regular classroom teacher during the guided  
reading block (we use Reader's Workshop model along with shared  
reading).


Thanks
Shannon McDonald

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Re: [MOSAIC] Teaching mini-lessons

2011-05-16 Thread Linda DeGreen
I agree with Troy and if you're making the read aloud the minilesson  
(modeling how to stop and predict i.e.) then you can also make it an  
interactive read aloud with students actively engaged throughout. I do  
often break a good, lengthy pic book over 2 days.


Other times , the actual minilesson may be a shorter to the point  
lesson that is only 10 min. If I'm modeling how to construct a  
character map on the Smartboard, I  base it on the character from the  
read aloud  and record key facts on the map. Students would then try  
this out either in guided reading or with their book. The minilesson  
is the teaching point so it's true that some are actually a little  
more on the maxi side.

Linda
Grade 4


On May 15, 2011, at 11:18 PM, Troy F wrote:

When you use a picture book you do not have to finish it in one  
lesson. I always broke the picture book into 2-3 parts.  I  was  
taught by a great literacy coach that mini lessons should be 10-15  
minutes long. You will run long from time to time. You just have to  
keep in mind your mini lesson is one component in your whole  
literacy program. For your program to be successful all components  
have their place. Sometimes less is more. A mini lesson plants a  
seed and then you follow  up and grow the flower.


Troy Fredde

On May 15, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Rosa Roper rosaro...@hotmail.com wrote:



Hello,
I am looking for some guidance on teaching mini-lessons - mostly b/ 
c my mini's are actually maxi's...
I found a book that somewhat breaks down the structure of a mini-  
lesson, but it also says to read a picture book, now when that  
happens we are looking at about a 40 minute lesson (NOT MINI)! Is  
the mini the amount of time you spend teaching, practice with a  
book not included???
How do you keep your lessons in check? A run down would really be  
helpful - if you have a lesson already typed out that you could  
email me that would also be really helpful :-)
So is there a place for shared reading in a mini? Or even a read  
aloud? A reading coach once told me that the mini lesson came after  
a whole group shared experience (I teach 3rd) however that seems  
like way too much to teach a whole lesson and then do another one  
even if it is a mini...
I also had a question concerning the Comprehension Toolkit: those  
are really long lessons even if you use different text - to make  
them shorter I have tried breaking the components down so that one  
lesson lasts a few days - is that then considered a mini lesson?
Right now I teach about 30 minutes and then students have up to an  
hour for independent reading while I confer or pull groups. 30  
minutes seems too long and I would like to be more time effective  
so I try to a structure like Daily 5. My district allows us a 30  
minute reading block.


Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks
Rosa
3rd grade
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Re: [MOSAIC] Book Whisperer - Chapter 4

2010-08-02 Thread Linda DeGreen




Chapter 4 - Reading Freedom

Donalyn makes a strong case in this chapter for allowing our  
students to develop reading identities.  She encourages us to resist  
the temptation to teach them how to select books, and allow them  
the freedom to develop interests in books.  Donalyn describes her  
beginning of the school year throughout this chapter.  The following  
questions are meant to spark discussion about this chapter.  In  
honoring Donalyn's notion of freedom, feel free to discuss  
something else that jumped out at you in this chapter.


1) Reflect on the beginning of your school year.  What do you  
normally do to encourage reading? Lots of read alouds, blessing of  
the books/mini book talks where I've gathered books in baskets and  
briefly talk about each one, class library tour to explain the  
organization of author baskets, genre baskets, leveled baskets, etc.



What will you do differently as a result of reading Donalyn's  
descriptions in this chapter? I'm toying with the idea of a reading  
requirement based on her 40 books . I'm not sure about this in 4th  
grade. Not sure about how many books  is appropriate. THOUGHTS?


We always do genre studies and do lit circles for each main genre  
(mystery, realistic fiction, fantasy, etc.) and then I do require  
that they choose another one in that genre to read and respond to  
independently . We do a reading workshop so students have a big  
block of time for independent reading.









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Re: [MOSAIC] Book Whisperer - ch 2

2010-07-14 Thread Linda DeGreen
I love this explanation and addition to the 5 Finger Rule! I plan to  
add this in my toolkit for teaching students how to choose books.


 I had a large group of high level readers this past year in 4th  
grade. Many devoured Harry Potter and were capable of the reading  
(both readability and emotionally) but then there were several very  
low readers
 (reading about second grade level) who also wanted to be as their  
peers during reading workshop so would sit and stare or simply flip  
the pages and were just pleased to have a thick popular book on their  
desk OR who actually could discuss the books because they had seen the  
movies.


I usually suggested they take them home to read with someone there. I  
like this new idea of having them create their own plan...

thanks
Linda

On Jul 14, 2010, at 7:26 AM, judy fiene wrote:

I would never discourage a student from reading a book in which they  
were
interested. The only time this would happen is if the book was not  
at the
student's emotional level. Our goal as teachers is to find that  
magic book
that will get them hooked for life. Usually, life long readers have  
one. I
teach my preservice teachers (yes, I am one of those people) the 5  
finger
test. I'm sure all of you know of that test, but I have a different  
take on

the ending. One finger -- easy book -- good place to practice their
fluency. Two or three fingers up -- just right -- good place to  
practice
decoding and comprehension strategies. More than five fingers up --  
this is
their challenge book and they need a plan. They don't need to put  
it down
-- just find a plan. Are they going to get the book on tape? Are  
they going

to read it with someone? Are they just going to look at the pictures?
Whatever the plan, I accept it -- THEY are the keepers of the plan  
-- not
me. As readers ourselves -- we make plans when we decide to read.  
Think

about ita research paper, I need the TV off and at my desk, no
distractionsa book by Nora Roberts, I could be on the couch and  
the TV
could even be on, reading the paper, I could skim it and just look  
at the
captions for insight... So...when I conference with them -- we  
discuss the
type of book they are reading (easy, just right, challenge) and go  
from
there. As you all know comprehension is at all levels. Our ultimate  
goal is
to get our students to pick up a book and read -- because they WANT  
to not

because they HAVE to.
Judy



On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:33 PM, suzteac...@aol.com wrote:



I have trouble allowing total free choice because it is so  
important that

students are reading books at the appropriate level. We were highly
encouraged  to tell students that they could not read Harry  
Potter or

Twilight
if we  know that the book level is too difficult. We were coached  
at how we
could help  the kids come up with these conclusions on their own. I  
still

felt that I was  the one saying no. This makes me uncomfortable.


even the kids who struggle to read these can pair up with a higher  
reading


partner for interesting reading and discussions!

This sounds like a good plan, except that at books as long as the  
ones i

mentioned, it would take forever to get through them.

Suzanne/4th/NY
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Re: [MOSAIC] Reading Response Journals

2008-12-03 Thread Linda DeGreen
I think the original poster hit the nail on the head-the reason kids  
hate  the letters or don't do as well as we'd like is that it  
requires thinking:) They would love to take the easiest way out  
(worksheets, tests, etc...) but I want them to learn to think and then  
appreciate what they've read.


I do think discussions and getting kids to talk about books is  
necessary -maybe even the best prewriting step they could take. These  
talks can give them ideas as to what to write. I want them to enjoy  
reading and share ideas but writing about their reading is important  
too. We don't do letters exclusively, we use graphic organizers and  
sometimes 2 column charts, and even drawing about the reading too.


But I love the letters as a form of communication and to have a compact  
way to look at a student's work over time.
Ours are broken into 2 parts. The first paragraph is a brief summary,  
the second is the personal response (based on their stickies and the  
strategies used). Do you have them mark spots with stickies as they  
read? Those little colorful inventions can be motivating all by  
themselves!

Linda

On Tuesday, December 2, 2008, at 06:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I stopped having my kids write letters. They thought that was the only  
way
they could respond to a book. I have them record their thinking as  
they read in

 different ways. I might have them respond to a question here and there
depending on what strategy we are working on. At the end of a book we  
respond in
different waysexplain how the character changed over  
time..what was
the  message of this book  how do you know. I have even put kids from  
different
 guided reading groups together and asked them to figure out how their  
main
characters share some trait or characteristic. They have to explain  
their

story  and have a conversation to determine it.
Sue


In a message dated 12/2/2008 5:19:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

How  about a checklist or a tic-tac toe type list? Giving them a  
choice might
help  them to be more motivated. I talked with a former student of  
mine a
while back  and I asked him what he liked the most and least about my  
class. He
gave me  things he liked but one thing he hated. I hated those stupid  
letters
we  always had to write.  I have since then given them more choices  
and it

seems to make it more interesting for them.
-- Original message  from Yingling  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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I am struggling to get my students to write quality letters  within  
their

reader's notebooks. It's December and they are still  simply giving me
summaries. I ask them questions and give comments in  my letters back  
to
them yet most of my kids aren't responding to my  questions/comments.  
I've

gone to giving the kids grades and their  grades don't even seem to

motivate
some of them to do better. We've  written sample letters together,  
I've

shown them examples, I've  written examples for them, I've given them

letter
starters. What do I  do next? The kids seem to just want me to give  
them

worksheets to  complete - they don't want to think.
Help please,
Jenni


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Re: [MOSAIC] songs and fluency

2007-05-27 Thread Linda DeGreen
We, too, begin our morning meeting time singing and reading poetry.  
Each child has a copy for his own Poetry  Song folder. And each  
song/poem is on a big chart stand. We get lots of uses for these as  
Kukonis mentioned. Many minilessons refer back to our songs, lots of  
word work but also including identifying theme. We integrated some  
social studies with several Patriotic songs ( when students chose their  
favorites to sing again and we held a Poetry Cafe for parents to attend  
they overwhelmingly chose songs like America, This Land is Your Land  
and Yankee Doodle).  And like Debbie Miller, I use these songs to  
signal when to come to the carpet for read alouds and minilesson.  
Second graders love to sing!
Linda/2/OH


On Sunday, May 27, 2007, at 08:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just a reply to the concept of singing and fluency.

 I teach first grade and we begin each day with a morning sing...  
 something  I
 decided was a must after responsive training inservice. In fact, in my  
  old
 district, morning sing was a school wide affair that began each  day.

 Now I am not talking about traditional first grade ditties or nursery  
 type
 songs. We sing popular songs of yesteryear and the here and now.

 Besides the community that it builds, I have found that it really helps
 first graders in a number of ways
 many examples of working with words  are naturally built in.
 this was
 eye opening to me when an emergent reader  spelled the word  beautiful  
 in
 September... she just hummed Oh what a beautiful morning and  when  
 she came to
 beautiful she said she closed her eyes and pictured the  chartof  
 course
 there are all the other working with words strategies  that can be  
 used just as
 well as configuration and visual imagery.

 Then there's   all the reading comprehension strategies  connections,  
 mental
 images, determining importance in fact we just finished   
 inferences and
 are now working on synthesis. The kids are singing Let the day   
 begin by the
 Call  a real happening now type beat..and are doing a  marvelous  
 job of
 inferring and synthesizing how they begin their days.  Conversation  
 has been
 going on for days about attitude, thankfulness,  self-improvement,  
 perseverance,
 cooperation we taken it to writing poetry as  well as our own  
 songs... It's
 also a good jumping board for our final unit in  reading workshop:  
 planning
 our lives as strong readers and writers lots of  good stuff.

 Singing also helps with peer revision; our motto is ... if you we  
 can't  sing
 in front of each other, how could we ever peer edit? This sets such a
 wonderful tone for respect and cooperation, and understanding when  
 kids come
 together to help each other... rather than that gotcha,I'm smarter  
 than you  that
 I've seen happen with younger children. During our research reports   
 on the
 rain forest, kids would spend their time printing out articles and   
 cutting
 pictures they found for other kids' reports while searching for their   
 own info
 rmation.

 Then there's the whole aesthetic stance to text... I love when the  
 kids  pick
 songs for us to sing. They have to tell why they chosen a morning sing  
 and
 how it would help us as community member or reader or writer

 Finally, another very early benefit for first graders: stamina!  
 Children  are
 not afraid on longer text. In September my early readers often choose  
 books
 that are tad longer in length and say well it is not as long as  
 our text
 in  morning sing.

 I love morning sing... it sets up my day as well. I just don't plow  
 into  the
 day... more reflective and hopeful...



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Re: [MOSAIC] Re-replies to my fluency v. comprehension

2007-05-26 Thread Linda DeGreen
Wow Tim! What an eloquent and timely posting it is! So great to get to  
the heart of fluency and its relationship to comprehension. Our  
district is supposedly dropping DIBELS  after this year. I think  a lot  
of schools jumped on the bandwagon without really investigating it. I  
love the anecdote of Dr. Martin Luther KIng!
Linda
(a fortunate student to have had Tim for many reading classes at KSU  
and who brought his expertise to our school for some wonderful  
professional development)


On Saturday, May 26, 2007, at 08:44 AM, Tim Rasinski wrote:

 Hello Everyone.This is my first posting, so I hope you will all be
 gentle with me.  I was asked to join the conversation inasmuch as I  
 have
 been studying reading fluency for the past 27 years and have written  
 widely
 about it over  much the same period.  My interested started when I
 tried to understand the struggling readers I worked with who seemed to  
 be
 highly intelligent, yet had difficulty with reading and understanding  
 what
 they read.   When I first read about fluency it was an epiphany.

 Let me begin by saying that I don't agree with all that has been done  
 with
 fluency, particularly over the past ten years or so, in fact I strongly
 disagree with the direction it has generally been going.  Your comments
 largely reflect my own thoughts on the issue.  I do operate under the
 assumption, however naive it may be, that we are all trying to do  
 what's
 right for kids.  Even those folks who are doing odd things to reading
 fluency honestly believe they are helping children become good readers.

 Let me outline specifically my concerns and ideas related to  fluency.

 Fluency is related to comprehension, quite strongly in fact.   My own
 research has in fact found strong correlations between fluency and
 comprehension all the way through senior high school.   We found we  
 could
 predict high school students' performance on Ohio's High School  
 Graduation
 Test (a silent reading comprehension test) with a measure of reading
 fluency (see Journal of Adolescent and Adult Literacy, 2005).  We have
 found similar results in working with older kids in Chicago and
 Omaha.  Interestingly, however, policy makers are not terribly  
 interested
 in fluency with older students.It's just not issue they say.  I'd  
 like
 for them to see that 9th grader who is reading without any expression  
 or
 enthusiasm, or who reads at 25 words per minute.  Think about it - if  
 an
 average 9th grader reads at 150 words per minute, what would normally  
 be an
 hour reading assignment for an average reading 9th grader now becomes  
 a 6
 hour marathon for the student reading at such a slow rate.And, I  
 can
 tell you that we have a lot of kids in middle and high school who like  
 this.


 Don't get me wrong, I am not advocating teaching kids to read fast for  
 the
 sake of reading fast' but we have to at least consider it.

 My  interest is in struggling readers.  I run our reading clinic at  
 Kent
 State and I believe it is a huge concern for students experiencing  
 severe
 difficulty in reading.  Mike Pressley and Nell Duke and another  
 colleague
 wrote that among students experiencing severe difficulty in reading,
 between 75-90% of them have difficulties in reading fluency that are a
 significant source of their comprehension problems.


 I think that fluency is important for comprehension -- it is not
 necessarily comprehension, but it sets the stage for comprehension.

 Fluency has at least two components --

 1)  automaticity -- recognizing the words so effortlessly (in the way  
 that
 all of us are doing right now) that we can use our limited cognitive
 resources to make sense of the text, not just decode the words.

 Reading rate is a pretty good measure of automaticity, very strongly
 correlated with overall reading proficiency.  And so measures such as
 DIBELS, AIMSWEB and others have been developed.  To be honest, I use
 reading rate as a measure of automaticity in my own work.

 The problem has come when this MEASURE of automaticity has become
 SYNONYMOUS with automaticity - that is, as many of you have so clearly
 indicated, reading speed, not automaticity, has become the goal of  
 reading
 fluency instruction.Now I see kids charting their reading rates,  
 well
 meaning teachers invoking kids to read faster and faster,etc.   I don't
 blame teachers -- they are hearing this from policy makers and
 others.Last year I did a little survey of kids in my region.  I  
 would
 ask them to name the best reader in their class.  Once done, I would  
 then
 ask them to tell me why that person  is such a good reader.  The  
 number one
 answer was He or she reads fastKids get what we teach them, and I
 think, they are all getting the wrong message here.  Reading speed is a
 measure of automaticity in the same way the my dog's tail is an  
 indicator
 of her happiness.  But I don't make my dog happy by wagging her 

Re: [MOSAIC] inferences

2007-05-02 Thread Linda DeGreen
I love this idea! I'm thinking of tying it to s.s. standards and bring  
in old time gadgets too.
Linda


On Wednesday, May 2, 2007, at 12:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Here is a fun  activity that I did with my kids that they really  
 seemed to
 enjoy... but if I  know you  probably you've been there  and done  
 that
 but here  goes.
 I keep trying to make  the point that these strategies of  
 comprehension are
 not just for reading text  but are necessary life skills that help  
 everyone  to
 think deeply and  carefully so.
 I brought in five  unfamiliar kitchen gadgets and asked them to sit at  
 a
 power table so that four  kids looked at the same tool. EAch was given  
 a recording
 sheet where they drew  pictures (visual image), labeled their
 observations,(determined  importance) made connections to other tools  
 that they were reminded
 of, and  listed questions they had about the tool. Then they shared  
 their
 questions and  observations and came up with a power table inference.  
 It was a
 fun project  because although only one group actually  guessed what  
 the gadget
 was really used formany used their recordings to think creatively  
 and
 critically. Although not correct many had wonderful alternate uses.
 Then I asked each  group to make an inference  about their group  
 work.
 The overwhelming  response was that their own thinking was enhanced by
 sharing not only their  individual inferences but that their questions  
 were the ones
 that drove their  thinking. They also eluded to work habits and body  
 language
 that either made or  broke their power table's initiative.
 Not bad for first  graders!



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Re: [MOSAIC] leveling books

2007-01-04 Thread Linda DeGreen
I found the best most comprehensive is the scholastic reading counts  
site.
http://src.scholastic.com/ecatalog

On Wednesday, January 3, 2007, at 08:12 PM, Karen Shook wrote:

 Here are some I have bookmarked (I haven't used them all recently so I  
 hope they work)
   http://registration.beavton.k12.or.us/lbdb/
   http://classroom.jc-schools.net/pohlmanr/levelingbooks.html (this  
 has links to other leveling sites)
   http://home.comcast.net/~ngiansante/

   Karen
   1st/MI

 Ninfa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I did a search but was unable to locate information. Awhile back,  
 there was a discussion on leveling books and a website was mentioned,  
 or that is what I recall. Can anyone assist me by suggesting any  
 online site that might be beneficial? I was using the Fountas   
 Pinnell book today but found some titles not listed. Thanks!
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Re: [MOSAIC] Question: How do you squeeze it all in?

2006-10-09 Thread Linda DeGreen
I'm also teaching grade 2 after teaching 4th for many years. We're in  
our 6th week and I feel finally getting into true independent reading.  
I do just as you're thinking, I do my gR groups while the rest of the  
students are engaged in reading (no centers). They're either reading or  
responding in their reading response notebooks (1x weekly). I still get  
in some conferencing between GR groups while I peruse the room-I find  
that is key for keeping these younger ones on task! Keep checking in on  
how they're doing. I try to get in about 2 share times a week after  
reading so students can do book talks. I can't do it daily.
Linda/2/OH
On Sunday, October 8, 2006, at 10:42 PM, Will and Beckie Spears wrote:

 I am teaching second grade for the first time, but I have used  
 reader's and
 writer's workshop for many years with upper grades kids.  Over the  
 summer, I
 read as much as possible about the RW approach to primary grades and  
 learned
 what it should look like.

 My district, however, mandates that every k-2 teacher would teach  
 guided
 reading groups (with leveled books) each day for 90+ minutes (meeting  
 with
 groups for around 30 minutes).  The district wants us to use literacy
 stations as the work students do when not in GR groups.  I've got the  
 guided
 reading piece in practice, but I'm not yet sold on the effectiveness  
 of the
 literacy stations (which seem labor intensive).  I have been focusing
 heavily on teaching comprehension strategies explicitly in shared  
 reading
 and read alouds, and I've been linking them to our work in GR groups.
 However, I know that the most essential piece of a reader's workshop -
 independent reading practice - is missing from my day.  It doesn't  
 feel like
 reader's workshop!

 I've been toying with the idea of beginning our literacy block with a
 reader's workshop mini-lesson.  While I work with GR groups, students  
 can
 then practice the strategies and their independent reading from their  
 own
 self-selected just right books in their individual book bins.  Then,  
 at the
 end of GR time, I'd regroup everyone for sharing and reflecting on  
 their
 independent reading.  That way, we can all speak the same language and  
 get
 time to practice in a workshop format.  It may be asking too much of  
 the
 second grade brain, and I realize that by doing it this way, I would
 completely eliminate the opportunity for conferencing (which is what I  
 found
 so effective in reader's workshop with upper grade kids in the first
 place!).

 I'd like to hear from others with similar situations.  If you are  
 mandated
 to do guided reading groups, and are finding a way to also include a
 reader's workshop, please let me know.   I know it can be done.   
 Thanks!

 Beckie

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Re: [MOSAIC] help with structure and strategies - grade 2 reading instruction

2006-09-24 Thread Linda DeGreen
My experience is similar (taught 4th for 7 years) and really wanted a  
change but second grade is a whole lot different! I'm merging all the  
professional readings that you mentioned. Although I'm chomping at the  
bit to get into strategy teaching. This was our 4th week and I just  
started working with groups one a day. I'm waiting until they can  
sustain more independent reading and have built more stamina to even  
attempt more groups daily (my goal is 2 groups). I also found I needed   
many more books than I had and have been borrowing them like crazy for  
indep. rdg time. Running records do give you some info to help groups.  
I used the I PICK from Daily 5 to teach how to choose books. I loved  
the analogy of the good fit shoes and the kids really got it so if  
you haven't done that lesson you may plan that. It takes a couple of  
days. I also did a reading interest survey to find out their interests  
and tried to gather horse books for the many horse lovers and sports  
for the boys, etc. My words of wisdom are that you're certainly not  
alone!
Linda

On Saturday, September 23, 2006, at 09:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am in my first year teaching second grade. I taught fifth for two  
 years.  I
 have 17 students. We have not completed formal assessments yet,  
 although  I
 have done the Spelling Inventory from Words Their Way. I thought the  
 formal
 assessment (DIBELS and MAP) would be done by now, and am a bit  
 frustrated I
 don't have more information on my kids. But I will just do my own  
 quick reading
 inventory using the leveled word lists and a quick running record in  
 the next
 two weeks so I can start some grouping/guided reading.

 I have a huge range of abilities from kids who look at a word and just  
  guess
 it based on the first sound, to kids who are reading and comprehending  
  texts
 on a fourth or fifth grade level (of course, their writing is behind  
 their
 reading). I also have a good number of kids who are going to need a  
 lot of
 practice reading and working independently while I work with groups.

 We have an anthology with accompanying leveled readers, but I am  
 planning  to
 buy some text sets so we can read authentic literature in our groups.  
 We  are
 a new school and have no school library yet.

 I admit I am a bit overwhelmed by the diversity of needs. I have read  
 a ton
 on teaching reading in the primary grades, including Mosaic of Thought,
 Reading with Meaning, the Daily 5, etc. But implementing it is another  
 scary
 story! I look forward to learning more from this digest. If anyone  
 would care to
 be an online mentor to me off the list, I'd appreciate and  email!

 Maggi
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Re: [MOSAIC] School wide struggle with strategies

2006-09-17 Thread Linda DeGreen
The way we approach this is through the balanced literacy framework  
which includes GR during our reading time. It's basically the gradual  
release of responsibility model so that reading begins each day with  
teacher read alouds (modeling thinking, strategies, etc), moving to  
some form of a small group or partner practice of that lesson (often  
this happens in the gR groups with the teacher), and works it's way  
into the expectation that students will use it in their independent  
reading during what you are calling reading workshop. Are you saying  
you have not supported learners in small groups before and this is the  
mix you're concerned about? I usually pull just one or 2 groups to  
work with each day and spend the rest of the time  
monitoring/conferencing individual learners.  But it all happens during  
the reading workshop where students have chosen their own books to read  
and respond to.The difference is that in GR , teacher has chosen the  
text based on children's levels to help them with the strategies.
Linda/2/OH
On Sunday, September 17, 2006, at 07:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I could really use some input here!
 My school has struggled to get out of the dark ages of reading for some
 time.  We finally made the big move to strategies about three years   
 ago.  We even
 had a big group of us go to a conference with Ellin,  Debbie Miller,  
 etc.
 summer before last.  The problem is that our specialist  (who did not  
 go to the
 conference, but is the one who  started strategies school wide) has  
 not really
 followed up  with enough training, follow through, etc., and many of  
 the
 teachers who  should have been teaching strategies have not really  
 been doing it. I
 just  don't think that the teachers quite get it yet, and so they  
 end up
 falling  back on old ways.  My incoming 5th graders this year didn't  
 even know
 what  schema is.  Here is the problem.  We have a new staff member who  
  was a
 reading specialist at her old school.  We were very excited  about her  
 coming.
 She has had lots of special training,  etc.  She is  a teacher here.   
 Long
 story short, even  though I have not heard what she is expert in  
 yet, I now
 strongly  believe that she was doing guided reading in her old school.  
  Guided
 reading seems like a totally different thing to me than Reading   
 workshop.  It
 is set up differently, the timing is different,  etc.  I only have a  
 110
 minute block each day for Reading and Writing, and  so where does that  
 leave time
 for the truly independent reading that I want my  readers doing each  
 day?
 My fear is that because this is a strong personality coming in, who is
 confident in what she has been doing, and because some grade levels  
 are  struggling
 with Reading Workshop, that we will cave in to yet another  system.  I  
 don't
 want that.  I have seen the format that we are doing  work too well at  
 my
 grade level, where we have actually been doing it, albeit  imperfectly.
 I was wondering if any, many, or a few of you have leveled groups   
 during
 your independent reading time for Reading Workshop?  Do the two mix,   
 and I'm
 just not getting it?  I'm feeling that what we really need here is   
 more support
 in the school for strategy teaching in the reading workshop  format.   
 Opinions?
 Sherry
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