Re: [MOSAIC] rationale..
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I really don't think anyone really wants to get rid of parents... but as someone who has taught Kindergarten, often when little ones have separation anxiety, it only gets worse the longer mom stays. Mom is, naturally, upset too, and the little one feeds off that and what started as a few tears can become a full fledged tantrum. Then you have a real disruption because that child's anxiety can spread to other little ones who begin to wonder whether or not they should be upset too. When mom gives the child a kiss and reassures them that she will return at the end of the day and leaves right away, the child usually becomes quickly interested in what the other kids are doing and has no more tears within about 5 minutes or less. I usually give the parent in question a call on my first break to reassure them that their child is indeed fine. That helps build those trusting feelings that are so needed. Jennifer In a message dated 8/24/2007 3:27:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see lingering differently, I see it as a way to reconnect school and community. I agree with Renee that disruptions have to be addressed (in fact, had to address parents attending with small children and with an unwillingness to reign in the behaviors of these kiddos), but my fear is that if we don't tread lightly and celebrate that these parents are HERE in our schools, regardless of their motivation ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
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As a parent and educator, I find the desire to get rid of lingering parents offensive. I always began the day with morning meeting and it was OPEN to all parents and family members. They will happily go away once you give them a reason to trust you. Lori On 8/24/07 6:35 AM, Chris Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to remember what book it is in that gives the rationale for letting the kids organize the classroom Library and do their own bulletin boards. Does anyone remember? Also, since I am switching from 5th down to 3rd, I'm a little worried about how to get rid of the lingering parents on the first day of school. Any ideas? ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. -- Lori Jackson District Literacy Coach Mentor Todd County School District Box 87 Mission SD 57555 http:www.tcsdk12.org ph. 605.856.2211 Literacies for All Summer Institute July 17-20. 2008 Tucson, Arizona ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
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Chris, it might be helpful to wonder why a parent might want to take some time in your classroom before handing off their child to an adult they don't yet know. Parents are very busy people. If they're lingering, there's a reason. It's a shame that parents and teachers make the serious error of treating one another as if they are a problem, rather than a partner. Pushing them out the door is likely to have some unintended consequences down the line. On Aug 24, 2007, at 8:35 AM, Chris Preston wrote: I'm trying to remember what book it is in that gives the rationale for letting the kids organize the classroom Library and do their own bulletin boards. Does anyone remember? Also, since I am switching from 5th down to 3rd, I'm a little worried about how to get rid of the lingering parents on the first day of school. Any ideas? ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] rationale..
On Aug 24, 2007, at 5:35 AM, Chris Preston wrote: I'm trying to remember what book it is in that gives the rationale for letting the kids organize the classroom Library and do their own bulletin boards. Does anyone remember? Also, since I am switching from 5th down to 3rd, I'm a little worried about how to get rid of the lingering parents on the first day of school. Any ideas? I don't remember what book gives rationale for this specifically, but then I don't think you need a book rationale to do it (nor do I think you need a book rationale for many teacher strategies. But off the top of my head I can think of a few books that would support it: Empowering the Child, Starting from Scratch, anything by John Holt. As for the parents, just stand at the door and make an announcement that it's time for moms and dads to leave now and they will be back later, after school is over. And shut the door. I taught third grade for about ten years and this was never a real problem. Now Kindergarten. hahaha Renee The thing always happens that you really believe in; and the belief in a thing makes it happen. ~ Frank Lloyd Wright ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
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On Aug 24, 2007, at 6:55 AM, ljackson wrote: As a parent and educator, I find the desire to get rid of lingering parents offensive. I always began the day with morning meeting and it was OPEN to all parents and family members. They will happily go away once you give them a reason to trust you. And of course we want to be inclusive and have our classroom open to parents, but having just gone through a Kindergarten orientation in which the teacher was trying to read the children a story and parents were in the back of the room having LOUD personal conversations that had absolutely nothing to do with school or even their children, I believe that at some point the parents need to leave the room and go have a day to themselves while the children do their school job. :-) Perhaps get rid of was not the best phrase. :-) Renee Deep down we must have real affection for each other, a clear realization or recognition of our shared human status. At the same time, we must openly accept all ideologies and systems as a means of solving humanity's problems. One country, one nation, one ideology, one system is not sufficient. ~ The Dalai Lama ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
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Wow this must be hitting a button for me. I am of two minds. Yes, we want to address parents' needs and not consider them an enemy to the classroom. On the other hand, I have experienced a LOT of parents (not just the aforementioned Kindergarten ones) who simply converse with other parents in the back of the room when I am trying to start a new year with students. These parents were the first ones that popped into my head when I read the original post. These parents do not need to be in the classroom; they are being disruptive. I feel the same about administrators who come in to observe and have a conversation. Go somewhere else. Go outside the door. Go have coffee. Or else just sit on a chair and watch. But disruption is disruption, in my opinion. Renee . who is probably sounding crotchety but really isn't. :-) On Aug 24, 2007, at 7:17 AM, Heather Blau wrote: Chris, it might be helpful to wonder why a parent might want to take some time in your classroom before handing off their child to an adult they don't yet know. Parents are very busy people. If they're lingering, there's a reason. It's a shame that parents and teachers make the serious error of treating one another as if they are a problem, rather than a partner. Pushing them out the door is likely to have some unintended consequences down the line. On Aug 24, 2007, at 8:35 AM, Chris Preston wrote: I'm trying to remember what book it is in that gives the rationale for letting the kids organize the classroom Library and do their own bulletin boards. Does anyone remember? Also, since I am switching from 5th down to 3rd, I'm a little worried about how to get rid of the lingering parents on the first day of school. Any ideas? ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. Painting is just another way of keeping a diary. ~ Pablo Picasso ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
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Renee, You're not sounding crotchety, just practical. The important, and unanswered question is: why are parents lingering? If it's to socialize with one another, ask them to leave. Parents, it's story time...please feel free to quietly pull up a chair and join us, or if you prefer, step out in the hall to continue your visit. This said, I stand by my caution. Getting rid of parents is not an accidental phrase. I think best remedy for Chris' worry and your frustration about lingering parents is to trust them, and speak honestly and openly with them. Some might get mad or critical, but if you speak clearly and in the best interests of the children, you're on firm ground. The key is to be clear within ourselves, then speak openly to them, assuming their on our side from day one. In my experience parents respect this kind of straight talk, so long as you're not laying blame on them, just enlisting their cooperation. Wow this must be hitting a button for me. I am of two minds. Yes, we want to address parents' needs and not consider them an enemy to the classroom. On the other hand, I have experienced a LOT of parents (not just the aforementioned Kindergarten ones) who simply converse with other parents in the back of the room when I am trying to start a new year with students. These parents were the first ones that popped into my head when I read the original post. These parents do not need to be in the classroom; they are being disruptive. I feel the same about administrators who come in to observe and have a conversation. Go somewhere else. Go outside the door. Go have coffee. Or else just sit on a chair and watch. But disruption is disruption, in my opinion. Renee . who is probably sounding crotchety but really isn't. :-) On Aug 24, 2007, at 7:17 AM, Heather Blau wrote: Chris, it might be helpful to wonder why a parent might want to take some time in your classroom before handing off their child to an adult they don't yet know. Parents are very busy people. If they're lingering, there's a reason. It's a shame that parents and teachers make the serious error of treating one another as if they are a problem, rather than a partner. Pushing them out the door is likely to have some unintended consequences down the line. On Aug 24, 2007, at 8:35 AM, Chris Preston wrote: I'm trying to remember what book it is in that gives the rationale for letting the kids organize the classroom Library and do their own bulletin boards. Does anyone remember? Also, since I am switching from 5th down to 3rd, I'm a little worried about how to get rid of the lingering parents on the first day of school. Any ideas? ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. Painting is just another way of keeping a diary. ~ Pablo Picasso ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
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Our school does a 'boo-hoo' breakfast. At least, that's what the staff calls it. (In our county, we have a First Day Celebration. All parents are encouraged to accompany their children to their classrooms, and 'hang-out' for a few minutes. At 9:15 (1/2 hour after school has begun) an announcement is made, inviting ALL parents to the media center for donuts. I think our PTA supplies the treats. It seems to help get the parents out of our rooms and they can commiserate with other parents. (It usually is the primary grades who have a harder time releasing their children. Hopefully, third grade parents will be used to this.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Preston Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; A Reading Comprehension Strategies Listserv; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MOSAIC] rationale.. I'm trying to remember what book it is in that gives the rationale for letting the kids organize the classroom Library and do their own bulletin boards. Does anyone remember? Also, since I am switching from 5th down to 3rd, I'm a little worried about how to get rid of the lingering parents on the first day of school. Any ideas? ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
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I think Debbie Miller talks about organizing the classroom library in Reading With Meaning (I think). I have taught 3rd grade for 4 years and have never had a lingering parentbest of luck! janelle p.s. I too am wondering about kids making the bulletin boards. I want them to do the borders...any ideas from anyone? - Original Message - From: Chris Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Listserv mosaic@literacyworkshop.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 5:35 AM Subject: [MOSAIC] rationale.. I'm trying to remember what book it is in that gives the rationale for letting the kids organize the classroom Library and do their own bulletin boards. Does anyone remember? Also, since I am switching from 5th down to 3rd, I'm a little worried about how to get rid of the lingering parents on the first day of school. Any ideas? ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
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What a nice idea! I have three boys, I cried with number one, got misty with number two, but by the time number three went (and we gained a car payment in unpaid daycare costs!!!), I was dancing on the table. Funny, I think he and I have the closest bonds, but it was easiest letting him go. Lori On 8/24/07 9:11 AM, Brown, Lisabeth L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our school does a 'boo-hoo' breakfast. At least, that's what the staff calls it. (In our county, we have a First Day Celebration. All parents are encouraged to accompany their children to their classrooms, and 'hang-out' for a few minutes. At 9:15 (1/2 hour after school has begun) an announcement is made, inviting ALL parents to the media center for donuts. I think our PTA supplies the treats. It seems to help get the parents out of our rooms and they can commiserate with other parents. (It usually is the primary grades who have a harder time releasing their children. Hopefully, third grade parents will be used to this.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Preston Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; A Reading Comprehension Strategies Listserv; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MOSAIC] rationale.. I'm trying to remember what book it is in that gives the rationale for letting the kids organize the classroom Library and do their own bulletin boards. Does anyone remember? Also, since I am switching from 5th down to 3rd, I'm a little worried about how to get rid of the lingering parents on the first day of school. Any ideas? ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. -- Lori Jackson District Literacy Coach Mentor Todd County School District Box 87 Mission SD 57555 http:www.tcsdk12.org ph. 605.856.2211 Literacies for All Summer Institute July 17-20. 2008 Tucson, Arizona ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
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I thought I might add some food for thought. There are districts where parent involvement support is low, where families feel intimidated or unwelcome because of perceived and real injustices and indifference, past and present. I teach in such a district and have seen teachers react negatively to parents for just such lingering. I see lingering differently, I see it as a way to reconnect school and community. I agree with Renee that disruptions have to be addressed (in fact, had to address parents attending with small children and with an unwillingness to reign in the behaviors of these kiddos), but my fear is that if we don't tread lightly and celebrate that these parents are HERE in our schools, regardless of their motivation. I stand that it make sense to invite them in, rather than push them away but certainly understand the need to establish ground rules. Lori On 8/24/07 1:12 PM, ljackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a nice idea! I have three boys, I cried with number one, got misty with number two, but by the time number three went (and we gained a car payment in unpaid daycare costs!!!), I was dancing on the table. Funny, I think he and I have the closest bonds, but it was easiest letting him go. Lori On 8/24/07 9:11 AM, Brown, Lisabeth L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our school does a 'boo-hoo' breakfast. At least, that's what the staff calls it. (In our county, we have a First Day Celebration. All parents are encouraged to accompany their children to their classrooms, and 'hang-out' for a few minutes. At 9:15 (1/2 hour after school has begun) an announcement is made, inviting ALL parents to the media center for donuts. I think our PTA supplies the treats. It seems to help get the parents out of our rooms and they can commiserate with other parents. (It usually is the primary grades who have a harder time releasing their children. Hopefully, third grade parents will be used to this.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Preston Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; A Reading Comprehension Strategies Listserv; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MOSAIC] rationale.. I'm trying to remember what book it is in that gives the rationale for letting the kids organize the classroom Library and do their own bulletin boards. Does anyone remember? Also, since I am switching from 5th down to 3rd, I'm a little worried about how to get rid of the lingering parents on the first day of school. Any ideas? ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. -- Lori Jackson District Literacy Coach Mentor Todd County School District Box 87 Mission SD 57555 http:www.tcsdk12.org ph. 605.856.2211 Literacies for All Summer Institute July 17-20. 2008 Tucson, Arizona ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
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In a message dated 8/24/2007 2:12:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but by the time number three went (and we gained a car payment in unpaid daycare costs!!!), I was dancing on the table. Funny, I think he and I have the closest bonds, but it was easiest letting him go. And I find parents like you are the ones who always encourage the lingering ones saying, Let's go. She'll/he'll be fine... Nancy Creech ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
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If the child (and/or the parent) is/are distressed, I have found it easier to explain the need for separation like this: The child will find security in the way the parent reacts to the separation. If the parent feels/behaves as if it is safe to leave his/her child in the classroom (says the good-byes, smiles, and turns in leaving), then the child will react with greater assurance feeling that s/he is safe and prepared to be there. If the parent is apprehensive to leave the room and behaves insecurely (keeps looking back, etc.), the child then feels the parent knows best and will feel insecure and react accordingly with crying and clinging. For the young students, it helped to explain this to parents in the introduction letter I sent home during the summer. - Original Message - From: Chris Prestonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Listservmailto:mosaic@literacyworkshop.org ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 8:35 AM Subject: [MOSAIC] rationale.. I'm trying to remember what book it is in that gives the rationale for letting the kids organize the classroom Library and do their own bulletin boards. Does anyone remember? Also, since I am switching from 5th down to 3rd, I'm a little worried about how to get rid of the lingering parents on the first day of school. Any ideas? ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.orgmailto:Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.orghttp://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchivehttp://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
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Regie Routman-Reading Essentials - Original Message - From: Chris Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Listserv mosaic@literacyworkshop.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 7:35 AM Subject: [MOSAIC] rationale.. I'm trying to remember what book it is in that gives the rationale for letting the kids organize the classroom Library and do their own bulletin boards. Does anyone remember? Also, since I am switching from 5th down to 3rd, I'm a little worried about how to get rid of the lingering parents on the first day of school. Any ideas? ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
