Re: logical operator
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Heiko Heil wrote: > Hello Mutt-users, > taken from my ~/.muttrc: > save-hook "~t [EMAIL PROTECTED]|~c [EMAIL PROTECTED]" +tux > Is it possible to use an logical or operator in order to avoid > redundancy? > I didn't succeed with this attempt: > save-hook "(~t|~c) [EMAIL PROTECTED]" +tux Try this one: save-hook ~[EMAIL PROTECTED] +tux msg25531/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: Re: attribution and quotes
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, David T-G wrote: > Rob, et al -- > ...and then Rob Reid said... > % [snip] > % Netscape/LookOut users, and David himself seems to enjoy the attention. > Actually, I don't, but that doesn't seem to keep it from coming my way, > does it? If such attention is the price I pay for using my desired indent > string then so be it. Here of all places I'm surprised to get such flack; > mutt has a configurable $quote_regexp with a bunch of other chars in > there already, and if I used : or | I'd probably never hear this crap. Actually, I'm concidering using < for replies. :P msg25530/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Per-list configuration of PGP?
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, David T-G wrote: > Shawn -- > ...and then Shawn McMahon said... > % > % Is there a way to tell Mutt to never PGP-sign messages to a certain > % address, but continue to sign them otherwise, other than just remembering > % to hit "pf" before sending? > Do you mean something like > send-hook . set pgp_autosign > send-hook . unset pgp_autoencrypt > send-hook (addr1|addr2) unset pgp_autosign > send-hook (addr3) set pgp_autoencrypt > or so? Modify to folder-hook as you see fit. ^^^ What folder-hook? I'm guessing that the first 2 should have been folder-hooks. :) > :-D msg25437/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: Re: attribution and quotes
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, darren chamberlain wrote: > Quoting Rob Reid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Mar 12, 2002 18:43]: > > Modified Julian Dates are completely numeric and therefore > > suitable for all Earthlings (not just astronomers) but > > unfortunately my /bin/date, from Red Hat's sh-utils-2.0-11 RPM, > > doesn't support them. It really should. > Completely unrelated to the rest of this thread, but: > $ rpm -qi sh-utils | head -2 | cut -c-30 > Name: sh-utils > Version : 2.0.11 > $ /bin/date +%j > 072 > The sh-utils on my RH 7.2 box seems to support julian dates just > fine. That is not a julian date! It's the day of the year! $ man date |grep j Reformatting date(1), please wait... %j day of year (001..366) -- Knute msg25415/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can I open a folder with all threads collapsed?
On Sat, 09 Mar 2002, Michel wrote: > Hello folks, maybe the subject tell for yourself... > I'm interested in this feature: open a folder with old mails collapseds (or all mail >if only it's function)... > Thanks Add this to your ~/.muttrc file: folder-hook . 'push \eV' #collapse all threads when entering a folder msg25379/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: attribution and quotes
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Rob Reid wrote: > At 3:19 PM EST on March 12 Sven Guckes sent off: > > I am aware that the short date form like 020312 could be mistaken for > > 1902-03-12 or 2102-03-12 - but so far it has not been a problem. ;-) > You sound like a 1970s COBOL programmer ;-> Anyway, if I didn't know that > today is March 12, 2002, I'd be tempted to read 020312 as an American zip code, American zip codes are either 5 or 9 digits, not 6! :) > or Feb. 3, 2012. 6 digits just aren't very robust when taken out of context, > or read with someone else's context. -- Knute msg25371/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: building question
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: > On Sun, Mar 10, 2002, Knute wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: > > [snip] > Thanks, but I was thinking more about how mutt will know to look for > everything in the system directories. I was thinking of building mutt > and just copying the binary into ~/bin. The ~/.muttrc will take care of that, and if you are building it on that machine, the rest will be taken care of. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg25248/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: building question
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Ken Weingold wrote:
> I am getting a new shell account where I am limited 50 megs of space.
> Even though I use my own patched version of mutt, they do have it
> installed. What I want to do is use the mutt binary from ~/bin, but
> use the rest of the stuff from the system directories. What is the
> best way to do this? I am thinking I guess about compile parameters,
> etc.
> Thanks.
One option would be to put ~/bin into your $PATH statement.
I use bash and it is setup in my ~/.bash_profile file.
# set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
if [ -d ~/bin ] ; then
PATH="./:~/bin:/usr/lib/xscreensaver:${PATH}"
fi
HTH
--
Knute
You live, You die. Enjoy the interval!
-- Clarence
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Re: set hostname
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi guys, Hello. > I'm curious about the "set hostname" option. It works > like a charm, no complains, but I'm wondering how it > can work if sendmail doesn't allow to a regular user > to set the "from" line. That is, I run mutt as a > regular user and without the "set hostname" opton, my > messages have: > From: my_username@my_host_name > I don't want my_host_name and use "set hostname" to > replace it with email.uc.edu. Like I said, it > works but how can it work if a regular user can't set > the "from" address? In general, how can mutt obtain enough permissions > to also set those other custom headers (like Organization, etc)? > Can somebody please explain it to me? Are you using the my_hdr option to set the from line and any other headers that you want to use? There is also the set from= option as well. Mine is set from="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and it gets set w/o a problem. For Organiazation and things here are some examples: # Attention: !!! No comments in the (un)my_hdr lines !!! #unmy_hdr * #my_hdr Organization: Wonderland #my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] They are commented sections of my .muttrc file that I used to get me started. :) > Thanks -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg25234/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: system hang, lost mutt function
On Sat, 09 Mar 2002, MuttER wrote: > * Nicolas Rachinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-09-02 21:03] crowed: [snip] > Knute, later in this thread solved my problem. The .signature file was missing! > tks, LOL I'm glad that it was something so simple. Your welcome. -- Knute msg25218/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: system hang, lost mutt function
On Sat, 09 Mar 2002, MuttER wrote: > I had a system hang with xcdroast. That's never a good sign. > SuSE 7.3 pro, uptodate 2.4.10-4GB, i686, kde 2.2.2 > mutt 1.3.27i (2002-01-22) > Since restarting, trying to post mail from within mutt or the command line, mutt >hangs. The rest of mutt's functions, afaict, function properly. Ok. > I removed mutt, then reinstalled. I removed my personal .muttrc, then replaced it. >The only difference I noticed was that without my .muttrc, when I tried to post, mutt >accepted the TO:, and then hung after I completed the SUBJECT: line. It would not >accept keystroke after on the SUBJECT: line. I've had this happen to me before. > With my .muttrc, mutt hangs when I enter to begin a post. > Just noticed, mutt also hangs when I enter to post to the mailgroup, status line >indicates: Including quoted message... > Same thing with . > I can kill mutt with . Not much else you can do. I ended up writing a script that I could kill it with the program name. Made things much easier. > This would seem to indicate that the editor was hanging, but the same thing happens >when I comment out the editor line in .muttrc. Not necessarily the editor. When this happened to me, it was a corrupt signature file. A while back I had instaled sigrot, and then thru a whole mess of bad shutdowns by people that know nothing about linux, I had to reinstall root, and lost sigrot. once I created a ~/.signature (actually a ~/.sig/signature) file, everything worked again. It's something to check on anyway. > HELP, please I just hope that I have. > pat > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg25215/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Re: Setting the hostname used in HELO
On Fri, 08 Mar 2002, Charles Cazabon wrote: > MuttER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > No, it would mask your problem (`man band-aid`). The real solution is > > > > to configure your MTA to use an "acceptable" argument to the HELO > > > > command, or to tell it to forward your mail to your ISP's smarthost. > > > > This is possible with sendmail or any other MTA. > > Where do I 'configure my MTA to use an "acceptable" argument to the > > HELO COMMAND ?? > If you're running qmail, it's set in the control file "helohost". If you're > running sendmail, I haven't the foggiest idea, but it's probably buried > somewhere in that 1000+ line monstrosity known as sendmail.cf. So read the man page for whatever MTA you are using to find out what the name of the config file is, then you can issue the command (in my case for exim): cat /etc/exim/exim.conf |grep helo It will show you the line and what variable you need to be looking for. -- Knute I like greps. Especially the green ones! :) msg25203/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: use another email address
On Thu, 07 Mar 2002, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: > Hi. I'm new to the list (however I did have a quick look at the archives > before sending this!). > Is there a way of using another From: (and Reply-To:) email address > without using the folder-hook system? You could always set up an alternate compose macro that will set the ^From Address using my_hdr. An example could be (and bear with me, I'm not very good at this yet.): macro index '\n set my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Of course, you may need to have another macro to reset your default from address back to your default. I haven't tested this macro to see if it would even work, so I have no idea if it will or not. > Thanks for any help I just hope that I did help! :) -- Knute msg25181/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Is mutt really "handicapped"?
On Thu, 07 Mar 2002, darren chamberlain wrote: > Quoting Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Mar 07, 2002 16:30]: > > On 07/03/02 MuttER did speaketh: > > > Goodness... Open several xterm windows with mutt and look at all > > > the different msgs you wish. > > > > I just tried "xterm -e mutt", and I get a "no such file or > > directory" error. Any idea what that is? I'd like to put > > opening mutt in an xterm on an IceWM keybinding. Are you sure that you have xterm installed on your computer? or the path to xterm in your $PATH statment? > Try xterm -e /path/to/mutt When I tried xterm -e Somerandomfilenamethatdoesn'texist the xterm window came up and the error message was in that xterm window. So where is the error message showing up? -- Knute msg25176/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: A bit OT, mail notification tool to go with mutt
On Tue, 05 Mar 2002, Thomas Hurst wrote: > * Adam Byrtek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 11:05:26AM -0600, Knute wrote: > > > I use gkrellm to show me what mailbox I have mail in. It can be set > > > up for an audible alarm as well. > > > > Me too... but it only supports single mailbox... > gkrellmmailwatch is one solution to this. > http://gkrellm.luon.net/mailwatch.phtml, > /usr/ports/mail/gkrellmmailwatch/ in FreeBSD. This is what I use in debian. It's cool. -- Knute
Re: A bit OT, mail notification tool to go with mutt
On Mon, 04 Mar 2002, Adam Byrtek wrote: > I wonder if you could advice me some *good* mail notification tool > (with support for different mailboxes and new message count for each > mailbox)? GTK preferred... I use gkrellm to show me what mailbox I have mail in. It can be set up for an audible alarm as well. -- Knute
Re: My Mutt Won't Bark
On Sun, 03 Mar 2002, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: > On Sun, 3 Mar 2002 22:05:33 -0600 > Knute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 03 Mar 2002, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: > > > > > set spoolfile=~/Mail/inbox > > > mailboxes ! +suse-linux > > > > > I set these two commands. Now every time I start Mutt, go to folder > > > "/home/jerry/Mail/inbox", Mutt says that "/home/jerry/Mail/inbox" is not a > > > mailbox. What else do I have to set to get Mutt to recognize inbox as a > > > mailbox. > > > > > > Is /home/jerry/Mail/inbox a folder or a file? > It's a file I created as user jerry in a xterm. I did: "touch inbox". Then I set > the perms to 0600. I had this same issue when I first set up my mail, but I can't remember what I did. I believe that I started out the same way that you did. Do you have a line like this in your ~/.muttrc file? set mbox_type=mbox the mbox_type can be either mbox, MMDF, MH, or Maildir. Don't ask me what the diffs are cause I don't know off the top of my head. That came from man muttrc. I hope it's as simple as setting that variable though, I'm not sure. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: My Mutt Won't Bark
On Sun, 03 Mar 2002, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: > set spoolfile=~/Mail/inbox > mailboxes ! +suse-linux > I set these two commands. Now every time I start Mutt, go to folder > "/home/jerry/Mail/inbox", Mutt says that "/home/jerry/Mail/inbox" is not a > mailbox. What else do I have to set to get Mutt to recognize inbox as a mailbox. Is /home/jerry/Mail/inbox a folder or a file? -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: Downloading messages
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Michel wrote: > Hello Folks > I'm trying to download messages with command, but I need help with this feature: > - Can I filter messages with procmail or similar program? > - Can I manipulate multiples accounts? (I know about account-hook, but my mutt 1.2.5 >doesn't work with this function, he said: invalid command - or something like this) > Thanks for any help Mutt doesn't deal with filters and such. That is the job of othre programs to do, like fetchmail or getmail, or whatever you use. I use fetchmail, so that is what I'm putting the example for. These are lines right out of my .muttrc file (well a file that is sourced by the .muttrc anyway. :) ) #bind index G fetch-mail macro index G "!fetchmail" macro pager G "!fetchmail" I included the default keybinding in there as well. With this setup, it does show you the message progress as well, and sometimes asks you to press return to continue. It's a small price to pay to get my email filtered for me. :D
Re: Is mutt really "handicapped"? - ha!
On Fri, 01 Mar 2002, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > On 01/03/02 Ken Wahl did speaketh: > > Mutt + vim + fetchmail + procmail + lbdb + gnupg + mixmaster = nirvana > I know all of these except lbdb and mixmaster. What are they? lbdb is the little brothers data base. What that does is to record email addy's that you recieve from once it is set up. It is searchable as well. Mixmaster, from what I understand, is something to allow an annonymous address to send mail from, but I don't know that much about it. -- Knute msg24898/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hooks & order of precedence
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Erik Rothwell wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 10:28:49AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 11:06:39AM -0500, Rob Reid wrote: > > > > > Maybe it could be made folder specific by tying the send-hook to an alias, or > > > even user+folder@domain, that is only used when emailing user from folder. > > > > You can have a folder-hook set a send-hook, like this: > > > > folder-hook .unhook send-hook > > folder-hook folder1 send-hook . 'my_hdr From: One Me ' > > folder-hook folder2 send-hook . 'my_hdr From: Another Me ' > > folder-hook . 'send-hook "~t somebody" "unmy_hdr From:"' > > > Still, if I'm in a folder & I send to somebody, the send-hook has taken > control *until* I re-enter the folder... then it's reset. Or am I > reading the above wrong? > What I'm trying to do is this: > If I'm in a folder, set my from address for the folder, *unless* I'm > emailing to user@domain, then, use a different address. Ok, if I follow you up to this point, you need to use a send-hook that makes sure that it doesn't match something. send-hook !~t user@domain "my_hdr From: address C" then another send-hook send-hook ~t user@domain "my_hdr From: address whatever" You could embed these send-hooks into a folder-hooks for the appropriate folder, and then it should set up dynamically as you have covered the cases that you mention later in your email. > Now, after using the send hook, I don't want it to persist. I'd like it > to "reset" as it were. I haven't tested my above examples, but they should work. > I can do this with folder hooks -- use address A if in folder A, but, > address B in folder B, or address C by default... but it's the *unless* > exception I can't seem to set. (For instance, folder hooks are read > again when I enter another folder... I can then use a defaults.global to > unset headers before setting them based on folder. If I do the same for > send-hooks, while also using folder-hooks, I cannot use folder-hooks at > all... the send-hooks will always get used. OTOH, if I use a send-hook > in a folder, the folder-hook is not re-asserted on the next send... as: > folder hooks are evaluated only on folder entry, whereas send-hooks are > evaluated on each send.) > Does that make any more sense? So embedding the changes to the send-hooks inside folder-hooks may be what you are looking for then. > What would be nice is something equivalent to Pine's roles, then I could > decide what address to send from when I hit 'm', but, automation based > on address would be superior in my case, if it were possible. Sorry, don't know enough about pine for that to help me as a reference any. :( HTH -- Knute msg24869/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Setting the hostname used in HELO
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Bob McLaren wrote: > Please help a mutt newbie out. > I have searched through archives and I am still not able to find the > answer to this. > I am using Mutt inside our network to send emails out to the internet. > Because it is an internal PC hidden behind a firewall, it does not have > a resolvable hostname. > This causes problems because many mail system refuse the email if the > hostname used in HELO is not resolvable. > What can I do to force the HELO generated by mutt to use my outside SMTP > hostname? I ran into this same thing. Here's the line from my .muttrc file: set from="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" # From: address (see send-hook my_hdr From) I don't have a my_hdr line but that can easily be set for addresses outside your network. HTH -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg24841/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt paints over background image
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, darren chamberlain wrote: > Quoting Dominik Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [27 Feb-02 08:22]: > > I have been using mutt in an rxvt window with a background xpm > > for a long time, using the version from the SuSE distribution > > withouth compilling myself. Since SuSE 7.2 however, rxvt > > covers the background image with a black character background > > itself. I guess this has something to do with slang vs. > > ncurses. The older versions were using ncurses and the new > > ones are compiles with slang. > Are you defining colors? If so, are you using a background color > of "black", rather than "default"? I started fiddling with this, and I had black as the background in my /etc/Muttrc file. After I changed that to default, and fiddled with my keyboard shortcuts, I have a transparent aterm with mutt running inside it, and my background image shows thru just fine! Now I just need to find a shading color that doesn't conflict with any of the colors I have setup for quotes and such! :) -- Knute msg24833/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mbox-hooks and dates
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Michael Tatge wrote: > Knute muttered: > > I have some mbox-hooks set up that move read mail into archive files. > > What I wanted to do was to leave messages that I've read from the past > > few days in the current mailbox, and have them moved after a certain > > amount of time. I tried setting it up, but they aren't working. > > > > One of the hooks is: > > mbox-hook '=mutt ~r>2d' ~/Mail/mutt.gz > 3.10 Using Multiple spool mailboxes > Usage: mbox-hook [!]pattern mailbox > [...] pattern is a regular expression specifying the mailbox to treat as > a ``spool'' mailbox > So the answer is: You can't do that, well not with mbox-hooks at least. > folder-hooks or a macro might work. > macro index ~r>2d\ > ~/Mail/mutt.gz So a folder-hook would be set up almost the same way then? > This is untested but should work. > HTH, Thanks > Michael msg24814/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SMTP Authorization
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Knute wrote: > I've been following this thread, and I thought I sent a message in, but > apparently it never made it. > On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: > > Newbie to Mutt here. I'm just getting started, and I'm trying to get a working > > rc file set up. I think I have all the basics except that my ISP requires me to > > login with username and password to read my mail. I can't get Mutt to login. > > Here's a copy of my POP section: > > set pop_host = "pop3.ispwest.com" > This line needs to be modified as follows: > set pop_host = "jerryvb:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" That should be @pop3.ispwest.com! Sorry need to proofread before I send again! msg24812/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SMTP Authorization
I've been following this thread, and I thought I sent a message in, but apparently it never made it. On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: > Newbie to Mutt here. I'm just getting started, and I'm trying to get a working > rc file set up. I think I have all the basics except that my ISP requires me to > login with username and password to read my mail. I can't get Mutt to login. > Here's a copy of my POP section: > # POP # > set pop_user = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Comment this entry out. > set pop_pass = "password" Comment this one out as well. > set pop_delete = no > set pop_host = "pop3.ispwest.com" This line needs to be modified as follows: set pop_host = "jerryvb:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" It's the same format that I have mine set to and it works just fine, at least it did, till I started using fetchmail to get my mail. > #set pop_port = 110 > #set pop_last = no > Every time I try to read my mail Mutt says that login failed: > "Login failed. USER: unknown or invalid command in this state [USER]" > What do I have to set to get this to work? > Thanks You're welcome. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg24811/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
mbox-hooks and dates
I have some mbox-hooks set up that move read mail into archive files. What I wanted to do was to leave messages that I've read from the past few days in the current mailbox, and have them moved after a certain amount of time. I tried setting it up, but they aren't working. One of the hooks is: mbox-hook '=mutt ~r>2d' ~/Mail/mutt.gz They all follow this same pattern. What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg24803/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Error in RegExp ?
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, Michael Seiwert wrote: > Hi, Hello > mutt detects an error in one of the following lines but I can't find > an error maybe you see the error. > color body green black "((;|:|8\\:|\\=)(-|=|~|_|-'|%|<|)(\\)|Q|P|\\)%))" > color body redblack "(*)(ACK|ROTFL|LOL|SCNR|BRB|BTW|C|CWYL|FWIW|g|G|b > g|vbg|GIWIST|G,D&R|HHOK|HTH|HTHBE|IMHO|IMNSHO|IOW|IRL|ITRW|OTP|OTF|OIC|OTOH|POV|RL|R > TFM|ROTFL|TTFN|TTYL|U|WAEF|Y|TIMTOWTDI)(*)" Don't you have to put a backslash (\) before the ampersand (&) and possibly the comma so that they are literally those rather then special characters. The ampersand is a global reset command for the variables according to the manual. > The error message: Wrong RegExp in Line ... -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg24734/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SMTP Authorization
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: > On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 12:27:15 +0100 > Martin Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri Feb 22, 2002 at 11:54:38PM -0800, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: > > [...snip...] > > > # POP # > > > set pop_user = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > [...snip...] > > > Every time I try to read my mail Mutt says that login failed: > > > > > > "Login failed. USER: unknown or invalid command in this state [USER]" > > > > > > What do I have to set to get this to work? > > > > The 'USER: unknown' bit makes me think you should try just: > > > > set pop_user = "jerryvb" > I tried this: set pop_user = "jerryvb" ; got the same error message. Try this setting; set pop_host=pop://jerryvb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Comment out your pop_user and pop_password things, and go from there. This is what I used till I reset the fetch routine to use fetchmail. What this does is send your username and password to the domain right away, rather than waiting to be prompted for it. If it still doesn't work you may need to change the pop:// part of it to pops:// depends on if they are using a secure server or not. > Am I using Mutt correctly? > 1. I open up a xterm window, using KDE 2.2.2 on SuSE 7.3. > 2. At command prompt I type "mutt", press Enter. Mutt opens up, no errors. > 3. I press Shift+G > 4. Mutt goes through several attempts to login to my mail server before it > finally stops and reports the error message above. > I'm brand new to Mutt, so any advice is welcome. Cool. You can spend hours setting mutt up, then weeks tweaking that setup. I like it. > Thanks Your welcome. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg24733/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: searching across mailboxes
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Thomas Baker wrote: > On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Adam Byrtek wrote: > > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 18:56:20 +0100 > > From: Adam Byrtek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: Adam Byrtek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: searching across mailboxes Well that was fun. Made me wonder what I broke in mutt! :) hehehe... > > > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 09:43:42AM -0800, Carl B. Constantine wrote: > > > Is there a way in mutt to search across all my local mailboxes for a > > > message that is from a specific person and then display the list of > > > matches so I can go through and look for the message I want? > > > > You should try grepm at > > http://www.barsnick.net/sw/grepm.html > I understand grepmail (http://sourceforge.net/projects/grepmail) does > something like this, but I haven't tried it myself (and am curious). grepm is a wrapper for grepmail. It works well, but grepm only searches one mailbox for matches. Grepmail -- according to the manpage has the option for recursion though. When I've used grepm, it works great, and is easier to find matches than searching thru the index to find it. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg24690/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mailboxes list
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: > * On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 11:29:17PM -0500, > * Kyle Rawlins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there some way to clear the mailbox list? i.e. the list that is added to by > > the 'mailboxes' command. > AFAIK there is no such way. At least in the discussion about this > feature some time ago nobody knew such a feature. > > I want to have two different sets of mailboxes (one for each mailing list) and > > have a keybinding to cycle through them; i.e. a set of work-related mailboxes > > and a set of music-related mailboxes. I find that there are times where I want > > to check the work related stuff and spend too much time skipping over the music > > mailing lists and getting distracted, and when I'm reading the less serious > > lists I'm rarely interested in hearing about the work stuff. > Similar situation here. I'm curious if you can't score the mailboxes somehow and then sort by score. Or maybe a priority somehow in the mailbox command. There is already coding to sort the headers in a particular order, so why couldn't that be applied to mailboxes as well as the format is already familiar. mailbox_order =very_important_work_box =important_inbox\ =music_stuff =spam etc Then any that aren't listed in the mailbox_order would show up with new mail afterwards when you hit c to change mailboxes. I don't even know where to begin with something like this, but it would do what you are looking for. HTH -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg24677/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: The & operator for patterns?
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Danie Roux wrote: > Hi, > I want to specify something like > ~C (domain & !user@domain) > i.e. Match everyone from domain except a certain user. How would I do > this? Not to good at this but this is what I'ld do: ~Cdomain !~Cuser@domain Or you could try: ~C(domain !user@domain) Not sure about that one, but it just came to mind, so I included it. If I've totally screwed up that second one please explain what I did wrong. Thanks msg24663/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Colorizing collapsed threads with new messages
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Rob Reid wrote: > Hi, Hello > At 9:49 PM EST on February 20 Andre Berger sent off: > > Is it possible to colorize the parent message of a collapsed thread > > if the thread contains new messages? (color preferred: magenta) > This is just a guess until some new mail comes in, and I haven't checked the > manual but here goes: > Put > color index magenta ~N > or whatever the correct line is for coloring new messages in your .muttrc > *after* the thread coloring line. If you also: unset collapse_unread #Don't collapse threads w/unread mail folder-hook . 'push \eV' #Collapse all threads when entering folder What will happen is that only threads with new mail will be uncollapsed threads will stand out. And the color thing above would make it magenta, but needs to be: color index magenta default ~N (Background color wwas missing.) HTH msg24626/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 'clicking links'
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Nick Wilson wrote: > Hi all, hey > I regularly use urlview and lynx with mutt but am frustrated because > I've not been able to work out how to avoid having to manually type in > the URL when I want to view something in a graphical browser. Hummph! > I use NS6 for my crimes if that is of any use. You can change the default app that urlview uses in your ~/.urlview file. The one drawback that I saw when I changed it to mozilla is that you have to close the browser to get back to reading your mail. I haven't tried putting an ``&'' after the %s yet though. HTH -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg24595/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Folder-hook question
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Carlos Laviola wrote: > Hi, I'm wanting to do something like this guy did (apparently): > http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/dot-mutt/folderhooks > And have a rule that makes it so that when I press m while in a certain > folder, the message already has the list (say, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) at > the To: header for me. Since the method used by Han doesn't seem to > work, I ask you now: do you know if what I'm trying to do is possible? folder-hook mutt my_hdr To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You do have to hit enter to get it to accept the To: field, but at least you don't have to type it. Don't know how to set it up so that it automagically enters it though. msg24532/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Multiple colors in the index line
I was curious if there is or will be a way to have the index lines in differing colors in the future. I'm not talking the whole line one single color, but if you have a collapsed thread only that part (C 18) or whatever would be blue for instance, and the date be another color depending on how far in the past it was, and the subject be yet a different color by whom-ever sent it. That way, I can simply glance at the index and tell which are spam, and which are important, and how long ago it was sent, etc... I've found with my own experimentation that it will take the color of the last color line that matches, so it can be a pain at times. 8o) I currently have colors by how long ago the message was sent. Sent today is green, Sent Yesterday or up to a week ago is yellow. And Sent more than a week to a month ago is red, and anything else is white. I also have a color for messages from certain ppl, and one or the other gets over-ridden. 8o( And yes, I want my cake and eat it to that's why I started using mutt! 9o) -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg24382/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: People who don't wrap their lines
On Sat, 09 Feb 2002, Christopher S. Swingley wrote:
> On Sat Feb 09, 2002 Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thusly:
> > * and then Christopher S. Swingley declared
> > > > map {!}par 72^M}j
> > >
> > > But this wouldn't do much of anything when reading a message in mutt
> > > would it? Or do you have your pager set as vim?
> >
> > No, my apologies, I misunderstood/misread the Q.
[snip]
> But to get back to the original question -- how can you take apart and
> put back together a message without line breaks (those messages that
> show up with a + at the end of the line)? It seems like a
> display_filter would be the solution, except that you probably only want
> the filter applied to messsages with this condition. Is there a way to
> map / bind a key such that wil will redisplay the current message, but
> this time pass it through a display_filter first?
I just got an email with the long lines thing. I didn't even realize it
till I replied to the message and the reply indicator only showed up at
the beginning of each paragraph! Pretty wierd!
Knute
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Re: mutt_dotlock and permissions of spooldir
On Fri, 08 Feb 2002, Johannes Zellner wrote: > Hi, > I've the following permissions ($USER == joze) > -rw--w 1 y1zlnmail 508 Feb 7 09:10 /var/mail/joze > drwxrwxr-x 3 root mail 8192 Feb 7 09:09 /var/mail > I can't change anything at /var/mail as I've no root priviledges. > I found out, that the lock file can't be created in /var/mail and > therefore my mailbox is opened read-only. I've also found a hack > set dotlock_program="true" > as mutt checks the return status of the dotlock_program. > My question: is there a 'clean' way, that is for example creating a > lock file in a $USER readable directory ? I ran into that myself, so I simply set a spool file in my home directory, and had procmail deliver my mail to that spool instead of the default. Works very well. Knute msg24350/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail doesn't go
On Thu, 07 Feb 2002, Dion E Viglione wrote: > Hi, I'm using fetchmail to get my email from my > ISP, and reading it with mutt. I want to send > messages, but it says: > Error sending message, child exited 65 (Data > format error.). > and I receive an email that says: > ...Domain of sender address does not exist > I understand that Mutt isn't like Pine, but I > thought sendmail can send stuff out...? Is it > Mutt that I have to configure or sendmail? Or > use yet another program to send the email out? Basically it's saying that your computer doesn't have a registered domain name. That's easy enough to fix. Add this to your .muttrc file: set from="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" You will have to put your email address in, and it should take care of it. If you have multiple email addresses, you can use a send hook to set it dynamically as well. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg24311/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Breaking News: Lusers _want_ to quote email replies The Right Way.
On Wed, 06 Feb 2002, Jeremy Blosser wrote: [snip] > Don't know to change or even if they do, can't really. If I started > quoting the right way at work, it would confuse people to no end... they > wouldn't know where to find my response inside of Outlook's awful message > display interface (marking replies inline with [name] tokens? WTF is > that?). I had to hobble my copy of Mutt there to mimic Outlook's reply > style as closely as possible with the existing variables. There's a > serious "when in Rome" factor to consider. Or as the Apostle Paul put > it... "I have become all things to all men, in the hopes that I might > somehow save some of them". ;) Well, at least you have the OPTION of being able to mimic Outlook with out to much problems. hehehehe... Imagine the poor IT guy who tries to make Outlook mimic Mutt! *big grin* -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg24261/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: send-hook fails on alias addresses
On Sun, 03 Feb 2002, Steffen Evers wrote: > send-hook '~t my@address\.com' 'unmy_hdr bcc' > This hook fails, when I use an alias like: > alias my [EMAIL PROTECTED] > autoedit is not set. > Another hook to recognize the address before using the alias does not > help either: > send-hook '~t ^my$' 'unmy_hdr bcc' > Solutions? > Bye, Steffen Have you tried double quites? send-hook "~t my@address\.com" 'unmy_hdr bcc' Knute msg24144/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: problems with text wrappin?
On Sat, 02 Feb 2002, David T-G wrote: > Nick -- > ...and then Nick Wilson said... > % Hi everyone. > % Prompted by a really dumb argument on another list I sent myself a mail > % from Outhouse with the text/plain settings set to wrap at 72chars > % > % Problem is, /I'm/ getting it like it's not wrapped at all? > I admit that this is confusing. I don't have a good answer. > % What gives? > Well, my half-baked answer is that you might not be using text/plain even > though you think you are. I have found that I have to really, really, > really work hard to convince Outhouse to do so. Don't forget to turn off > any stationery settings and to have not only new mail but replies and > forwards use plain text. Another thing to check would be to make sure that it isn't using the rtf format (Rich Text Format). It shows up as text for all intents and purposes, but the characters used for linebreaks and such somewhat resemble the html format. And I think to turn that off is a check box that is burried deep in the menus somewhere. I'll look here in a bit when I have to reboot to windows so that my kids can play their games. 8o) Knute msg24132/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: problems with text wrappin?
On Sat, 02 Feb 2002, Nick Wilson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > Hi everyone. > Prompted by a really dumb argument on another list I sent myself a mail > from Outhouse with the text/plain settings set to wrap at 72chars > Problem is, /I'm/ getting it like it's not wrapped at all? > What gives? Did you set Outhouse to do just a carriage return or a carriage return and a line feed? My understanding is that M$ environments see a carriage return and a line feed as the same things, where as a *nix environment sees them as 2 separate entities. If I am mistaken in this, I welcome feedback. 8o) -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg24119/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt and NFS
On Fri, 01 Feb 2002, MuttER wrote: > On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 10:39:06PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2002, MuttER wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:26:22PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote: > > > > This is really irritating. I am currently in a loop between two > > > > mailboxes. Change to one. Status bar says there is new mail in a > > > > folder. Change to it. No new mail. Status bar says there is new > > > > mail in a folder. Change to that. No new mail. And again and again. > > > > So mutt might not actually say there is new mail in the mailbox, but > > > > it just says Inc:1 in the status bar. So it's not losing whatever > > > > marker it has for unread mail in a mailbox. Could this help with > > > > troubleshooting? > > > > > > > check your system time. > > > > Could it be that the box is in Portland, OR, and I am in NYC, so I set > > my TZ env variable to EST? > > > That might do it. I'm not that good, just had a similar problem when I > was with MD8. Now SuSE 7.3 professional and love it. > good luck, maybe someone here more knowledgable will comment. Don't know about that, but I do have an idea. Do you know if the box in Portland is using GMT or not? If it is, then you can set yours to GMT as well, then they should be in sync. Either that or have mutt change the TZ variable to West Coast time (Don't know the abreviation.) Knute msg24118/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Moving (not saving) a message to another folder
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Philip Mak wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 07:25:41PM +0100, Adam Byrtek wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 01:03:32PM -0500, Philip Mak wrote: > > > So, it makes sense for me to keep my inbox clean so that it only > > > contains messages that I still have to "do something" about. Any > > > messages that I have finished, I move them into my "done" folder. > > > > folder-hook mbox "macro index d '=archive\n' 'archive message'" > > folder-hook mbox "macro pager d '=archive\n' 'archive message'" > > > > But I'm not sure is this what are you looking for. If you want to, you > > could add 'synchronize' at the end of this macro, but I prefer not to > > - I tend to delete sometimes some mail by mistake. > That's not quite what I wanted to do. I wouldn't want to save *every* > message to the archive (some messages are not useful to keep around, > e.g. spam etc.). > Making a hook macro to save the message to the archive mailbox would > make it slightly faster, but the synchronize part is also a problem. > Right now, in order to make the moved message disappear immediately > from the message listing, I would have to synchronize, which would > also delete any messages (and also takes a second or two; synchronize > is not instantaneous). > I suspect what I'm talking about would not be possible without hacking > the mutt source code. Anyone have ideas on how to do this (and how > many other people are interested in having such a feature? :). Have you tried to simply set the color for deleted messages to black on black (or whatever bg color you are using)? Here's what I have in mine: color index black black "~D" # Deleted It's quick, easy to set up, and removes it from sight. Then once you are done, you can synchronise your box, and get rid of them. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg24031/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: folders ?
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Prahlad Vaidyanathan wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 Knute spewed into the ether: > [-- snip --] > > There are others, but procmail is what i use with fetchmail, and it > > seems to work well for me. The one thing that I have found is that > > Mutt's own getmail function doesn't send it thru procmail. Don't know > > how to change that, so I simply set up a macro to run fetchmail. 8o) > Hmm .. I thought fetchmail injected things into your MTA. So, it should > have the same route as if you called it from the command-line. ie : > fetchmail -> MTA -> procmail -> folder(s) > or am I missing something ? What I meant was that when you hit G for the default getmail function that mutt has, it doesn't run it thru procmail, it just gets it. So in my keybindings I have : #bind index G fetch-mail macro index G "!fetchmail" macro pager G "!fetchmail" So then when I hit G it will run the program fetchmail instead of using mutt's version. If there is a way to route mutt's fetchmail thru procmail, I'll try it, but with it set up this way you do get the verbosity on the screen though. "!fetchmail -q" may work better, but I just haven't done it yet. msg24010/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2 Q's about printing...
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Justin R. Miller wrote: > Thus spake Igor Pruchanskiy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I am using muttprint. It is superior. I have used a2ps and enscript > > before, but i ended up with muttprint and i love it. Even though my boss > > makes fun of a cute little penguin :) > Penguin? Bah! How about the Debian swirl? ;-) You know, it wouldn't take to much to put your companies logo on the top (held by the penguin of course), then see what your boss says! 8o) -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg23999/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: folders ?
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Nico Schottelius wrote: > Hello dear list! > Is it possible to use folders with mutt ? Yes. > If yes, is autosort possible ? > Like mails for nicos-mutt goto mutt/, mails to > mailing lists goto lists/gpm lists/lkml ? Depends on when you want it sorted. Mutt does have the capability to save read mails to certain folders automagically, but that is after it has already been delivered to your spool file. If you want them sorted before you read them, then you will need software such as procmail. You set up a recipe, and fetchmail sends the mail to procmail to sort it into the appropriate mailbox depending on content. There are others, but procmail is what i use with fetchmail, and it seems to work well for me. The one thing that I have found is that Mutt's own getmail function doesn't send it thru procmail. Don't know how to change that, so I simply set up a macro to run fetchmail. 8o) Knute msg23998/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: S/MIME patch for Mutt-1.3.26
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Brian Clark wrote: > * Knute ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 28. 2002 16:26]: > [...] > > When I do a dpkg -S mutt.ncurses it was the mutt-utf8 package that > > created it. Since that is the one that is linked to slang. > OK, here's what I get: > (~)% dpkg -S mutt.ncurses > dpkg: *mutt.ncurses* not found. > (~)% dpkg -l mutt | egrep ii > ii mutt 1.3.27-1 Text-based mailreader supporting MIME, GPG, > Maybe what you decribe is done when one installs both packages (mutt and > mutt-utf8) on the same machine. Yeah, I think so. I didn't know the issues that both could have, so I figured I'ld try them both out. The exact output of the dpkg -S mutt.ncurses is: diversion by mutt-utf8 from: /usr/bin/mutt diversion by mutt-utf8 to: /usr/bin/mutt.ncurses (So I paraphrased before!) msg23935/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: S/MIME patch for Mutt-1.3.26
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Brian Clark wrote: > * Knute ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 28. 2002 11:04]: > > I'm currently using debian, so I don't know about other distros. What > > I've found is that with debian, there is mutt (linked with slang), > > and mutt.curses (linked with ncurses). As I use kbd shortcuts anyway, > > I simply set up a shortcut to mutt.curses and it took care of the > > problems that I was having with the color. And setting up an alias > > named mutt to point to /usr/bin/mutt.curses isn't to hard either. 8o) > What version/release of Debian are you using? I'm running a mix of woody > and sid and my mutt is using ncurses rather than slang, and I didn't > have to download any special version: > (~)% ldd `which mutt` > libncurses.so.5 => /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x4001e000) > (There is no mutt.curses on my machine) > The package I'm using is mutt_1.3.27-1_i386.deb from sid. > Not being a smart arse, just pointing out that there may be > differences in stable/testing/unstable. The name is mutt.ncurses, and I didn't have do dl anything extra to have it on here. Don't actually know where it came from to be honest with you. I do have both slang and ncurses on my machine. And I am using unstable as well. And I'm using the same package version as well, I am also using the urf8 one as well. (Don't quite know the diff atm, but it's there.) When I do a dpkg -S mutt.ncurses it was the mutt-utf8 package that created it. Since that is the one that is linked to slang. msg23921/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: aol question
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, David T-G wrote: > Knute, et al --- > ...and then Knute said... > % > % I haven't tried sending to an AOL Address lately, as it has failed in > % the past. > Interesting. Right after I sent this last message, I sent an email to a friend of mine that uses aol, and so far it hasn't been returned. > % > % > I presume, though, that she can get mail from others and it's just mail > % > from you that bounces, right? > % > % Now that I think about it, I could send directly from yahoo, but it > % was my own machine that had problems with it. > Well, *I* can send to AOL, so it's not all Linux boxes :-) hehehe... Yeah, that I know, as I just did it. > % > % Knute > HTH & HAND > :-D msg23908/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: S/MIME patch for Mutt-1.3.26
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Mike Schiraldi wrote: > > I know nothing about Ncurses, not even how to see it's version, but > > tried to link with it: The indicator seems to react well. It takes the > > reversed colors the current index line should be. But, for an unrelated > > to your patch reason, the color scheme of all the screen is messed up: > > in foreground what should be white appears black, red appears cyan, > > yellow is green, and blue is magenta... > I have the same problems with slang, regardless of whether the indicator > patch is applied. Is there a fix for this, or is it a limitation of slang? I'm currently using debian, so I don't know about other distros. What I've found is that with debian, there is mutt (linked with slang), and mutt.curses (linked with ncurses). As I use kbd shortcuts anyway, I simply set up a shortcut to mutt.curses and it took care of the problems that I was having with the color. And setting up an alias named mutt to point to /usr/bin/mutt.curses isn't to hard either. 8o) Knute msg23905/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: aol question
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, David T-G wrote: > Dale -- > ...and then Dale Morris said... > % > % I have FreeBSD and redhat 7.2 running on my athalon machine. On the > % redhat os I am using sendmail configured using the install-sendmail 5.5 > % script from freshmeat and on the FreeBSD os I have sendmail installed, > % but configured just as it came out of the box. Sending mail to myself > % @yahoo.com works fine (both os's), sending mail to my friend @aol.com > % seems to bounce on both os's. > How so? What's the bounce message? There are diagnostics; cough 'em up. Actually, I've experienced the same thing in the past. I'ld check to make sure you don't have an aolserver running on your machine as well. 8o) I haven't tried sending to an AOL Address lately, as it has failed in the past. > % > % The aol machine is a new windows xp (yeah, I know it sucks) that she > % just got. > That shouldn't matter (well, aside from her eternal torture and damnation, > I mean); AOL catches the mail and then later hands it down to her. > I presume, though, that she can get mail from others and it's just mail > from you that bounces, right? Now that I think about it, I could send directly from yahoo, but it was my own machine that had problems with it. Knute msg23903/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: html email
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > Yeah... there's a little more to that... we'd just switched from a Novell > Groupwise system to using Exchange for the group mail stuff with qmail on > the border handling the real incoming/outgoing mail (talk about your bad > news/good news situations). This was pretty much the first Friday after we > switched. When he heard the story, one of the old Groupwise admins > commented that the Groupwise system used to go down every Friday at about > the same time, and they never quite knew why... they just bounced the > server and it was fine again. So the theory (among managers anyway) became > that this was some kind of regular mail that had been going on all along, > but had never been a "problem" before because Groupwise just crashed and it > died there. It seems to me there would still be a queue with those > messages waiting to go out again that would keep causing problems til they > fixed it, but I don't know Groupwise. Isn't that what logs are for? You know, to help diagnose issues such as that. But checking log files was never a strong point for windows though. Even in NT where logs are actually kept, I'm not sure how often they were actually checked. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg23849/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: html email
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Nick Wilson wrote: > * and then Michael Maibaum blurted > > My favorite was the last bi-monthly report from our (win NT > > dominated...) IT dept...It was a 4Mb word document for about a page and > > a half, plus some high res pics, plus all the revisions in the word > > document. It was sent to every email address in the institution > - From the /IT/ department? Sheesh, even my mum sends text only, /and/ > understands why. How can you work in an IT department and be so > monumentally ignorant? Hr Well, as it is an NT dominated environment, anybody know what NT stands for? No Thoughts By the way, why didn't they just put links to the pics instead? Isn't that the reason for a wan or a lan? -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg23848/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: text-input-problem
So set it up to edit your headers in your text editor, that way you can see what it is and make sure it's right. On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've a really curious problem with mutt. When I compose a new mail > mutt asks for the recipient (To:) and for the Subject in the last line > of my screen. > If I enter a value here and mistype something and use the > delete-button to correct this issue, the cursor is moving funny. > lets say: (* indicates current cursor-pos) > Subject: 1234567890123456790* > I press the del-key 7 times and have > Subject: 1234567890123* > Then I press del del-key again and get: > Subject: 1234567890123 * > If I press enter now the acceptes Subject is nevertheless "Subject: > 123456789012" which is correct, so only the display is weird. This > makes me cracy, cause if you mistype an emailadress you cant correct > it, cause you never know where the cursor is now > mutt 1.3.23 - dont have any problem like this with any other > terminalapplication. > thnx, > peter -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: Folder Format
On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Nick Croft wrote: > Mutt Users, > I'm trying to get a uniform look and feel to mutt on 3 machines, all running > Debian. Version is 1.3.25i. > The folder_format is set to the standard > "%F %-8.8u %-8.8g %d %8s %N %f" > on all three machines, yet the %N value only shows up on one of them > when I do c ? to the see the folders. Obviously it's very useful to be > able to see which folders have new mail in them. > Is there another value to be set to get this to work on the 2 machines > which don't show it? This may sound rather trite, but are you sure that there are new emails on the other 2 machines when you try it? -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: setting Reply-To header
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Nick Wilson wrote: > Certainly seems to be it although I'm having a little trouble getting it > to work. I keep getting a 'error missing parameter in line 316' (first > line of the code below) > send-hook . "my_hdr Reply-To: Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" > send-hook ~t "[EMAIL PROTECTED] set my_hdr Reply-To: Mutt-Users ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" > Any thought? > Thanks You have your quotes in the wrong place. Try this: send-hook ~[EMAIL PROTECTED] "my_hdr Reply-To: Mutt-Users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" They way you had it, was telling mutt to only look in the to field for the entire string, and no command. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: mutt + ssl
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Theo Bierman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 02:42:59PM +0100, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 03:32:18PM +0200, Theo Bierman wrote: > > > > You need to install openssl-dev as well :) > > (and ncurses-dev etc.) > tried an apt-get install openssl-dev/ncurses-dev, but nothing, the "-dev" >extension, firstly what is it and secondly, where can I find it, or should I not be >searching for it as openssl-dev and ncurses-dev? ncurses-dev is actually libncurses5-dev. > > > > Debian rules :) > loving it to :) You said it!
Re: mutt + ssl
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Theo Bierman wrote: > Downloaded mutt-1.3.26, I have installed ncurses, slang and openssl. Then ran >./configure --enable-imap --with-ssl and I'm getting an error as follows: > checking for X509_new in -lcrypto... no > configure: error: Unable to find SSL library > I'm using debian right, so I did not download the tar.gz for openssl, I just ran a >apt-get install openssl and it installed openssl_0.9.4-5_i386.deb. So whether it can >find libcrypto I don't know, should I be using a diffeent version of ssL do an "apt-get install openssl-dev" You need the dev, cause you are trying to build against the openssl package. The openssl package doesn't contain the headers you need.
Re: how to keep threads collapsed, in a mailbox index, when mail arrives?
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, parv wrote: > can anybody tell me how to keep threads collapsed when new mail > arrives in a mailbox? > say, i am looking at the mailbox index. all the threads are > collapsed. as soon as new mail arrives, the thread receiving the > new mail gets un-collapsed ... which is highly annoying. > i am using mutt 1.3.25i on freebsd 4.5-prerelease. below is some of > the muttrc, hopefully w/ least of the irrelevant portion... ... > set collapse_unread=yes ... > thanks much. > - parv Change the above to : set collapse_unread=no According to the manual, that's the option that prevents mutt from collapsing threads with new mail in them.
Re: Altering an attachment
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Michael Montagne wrote: > >I need to modify an attachment (delete a hyphen) and then reattach it to >the original email and bounce it to the original recipient. >The people in our office who use Outlook (which is everyone but me) need >to be able to read ical attachments sent by a client. But some have a >hyphen that renders them unreadable by our previuos version of Outlook. >I'm hoping I can come up with a slick solution to leverage my Linux/mutt >combo and route mails through my box, fix the attachment, and then send >them to the original recipient, without changing the To: or From: >headers. >Can it be done? Couldn't that be done with procmail and some sort of recipe that includes sed or something? (Don't know sed, so when it comes to that I'm lost!)
Re: charset conversion on sending
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Paulius Bulotas wrote: > >Hello mutt users, > >I need a simple (seems ;) thing - for some recipients, convert >outgoing email with national chars into iso-8859-1... >tried send-hook '~t ^paulius@kaktusas\.org$' 'set charset="iso-8859-1"' >and setting set send_charset="us-ascii:iso-8859-1:iso-8859-13", but that >doesn't work... >Any ideas? >After searching google I found similar examples, which should work (but >not for me). >FreeBSD, libiconv-1.7_1, locale is iso-8859-13... > >TIA >Paulius Well do you have iso-8859-1 installed? -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: grepm
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Michael Montagne wrote: > >I was just reading about grepmail and was led to a wrapper for it >specifically for mutt called grepm. Sounds like something that might be >neat. After installing the software, how do I implement it in mutt? >thanks. Basically all it does is call mutt to read the results of grepmail so that you can see the mail that you are searching. When I called it from the command line, it started mutt with the results of the search. my search was: grepm free Mail/mbox It seems that the last argument has to be the box you are searching.
Re: Command parsing within my_hdr
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Drew Raines wrote: >Knute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> > my_hdr Reply-To: `/path/to/some-command-output` >> >> It wasn't designed to execute commands, though it could trigger a >> command to be done, depending on that header. Depends on how it is >> set up. > >Actually, the above does work. It fails within a send-hook (which is >where I need it): > > send-hook . "my_hdr Reply-To: `/path/to/some-command`" hehehe... well you didn't say that before. 8o)
Re: virus
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Carl B . Constantine wrote: > >Some nut is actually using Outlook for this list. I just got an email in >response to one I posted from [EMAIL PROTECTED] that had a virus >attached to it (.mp3.pif). LOL... That's not even a virus, it's a shortcut to the executable! Hrmmm... Wonder what executable it was pointing to! 8o)
Re: Command parsing within my_hdr
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Drew Raines wrote: > >Inserting a command within a my_hdr doesn't seem to work; should it? > > my_hdr Reply-To: `/path/to/some-command-output` > >mutt complains with ``/path/to/some-command-output: unknown command.'' My understanding of the my_hdr command is to simply create a header that is sent with outgoing mail. Something in the form of: my_hdr Nonsense Header: Follow the yellow-brick road! It wasn't designed to execute commands, though it could trigger a command to be done, depending on that header. Depends on how it is set up. So what is it that you are attempting to do?
Re: Controlling when new mail appears in boxes?
Very nice. Now I just need to figure out how to get it all set up in my
environment! ;)
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Cameron Simpson wrote:
>
>On 17:49 16 Jan 2002, Michael Montagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>| > On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Cameron Simpson wrote:
>| > >Well, this isn't strictly an "in mutt" solution, but I don't use
>| > >$mailboxes to monitor email. Instead my procmail recipe runs a small
>| > >shell script when delivering to particular folders, and that script
>| > >writes a line to a file I'm monitoring in a small always-open xterm
>| > >citing folder, author and subject.
>| >
>| > I wouldn't mind taking a look at both the script and the recipe, if you
>| > don't mind. I've been wondering how to do that.
>|
>| Me too, that sounds very interesting. Can you share it to the list?
>
>Well, bear in mind you did ask this of someone with a heavily customised
>environment.
>
>Also note that I automgenerate my .procmailrc with this tool:
>
> http://freshmeat.net/projects/cats2procmailrc/
>
>so the apprently painful verbosity is done by a program from this single line:
>
> !attn CSKK[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>The "!" means "make an alert line, "attn" is the folder, "CSKK" is a tagline
>and "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" is a target email address to match on.
>
>So on to the example procmail recipe:
>
> : 0
> * ^(to|cc|bcc):.*cskk@optushome\.com\.au
> {
>
> : 0hc
> | mhdrs | { while read hdr body; do eval "HDR_$hdr=\$body"; done; alert -c
>yellow "`timecode` +attn $HDR_FROM; $HDR_SUBJECT"; }
>
> : 0hf
> | sed -e 's/^Subject: *\[[^ ]*\] */Subject: /' -e 's/^Subject: *[Rr][Ee] *:
>*\[[^ ]*\] */Subject: Re: /' -e 's/^Subject:/& [CSKK]/'
>
> : 0
> attn/.
> }
>
>Now, note that only the first bit matters. This recipe does three things
>on detection of email for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>
> - generates an alert for my window
>
> - hacks the subject line to mark it with [CSKK] and tidy it up a bit
>
> - drops it in my +attn folder when my high priority email goes
>
>So the core trick is to use the {...} stuff to do a few things in a
>given recipe, and thus to have an alert action for specific rules.
>
>That said, mhdrs is a tiny perl script to crudely grab header lines from
>the mail message (supplied on stdin by procmail):
>
> http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/scripts/mhdrs
>
>and write them out in shell friendly form. The while loop sucks them up
>and makes variables like $HDR_SUBJECT etc for use by the alert command,
>which is just a script:
>
> http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/scripts/alert
>
>to deposit the supplied line onto the logfile, in yellow in this instance.
>
>Then my FvwmButtons at the screen top has a 3 line transparent rxvt
>which runs "tail -f" on the logfile.
>
>And lo, when such email arrives it's mentioned quietly but obviously at
>the top of my screen.
Re: Controlling when new mail appears in boxes?
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Cameron Simpson wrote: >Well, this isn't strictly an "in mutt" solution, but I don't use >$mailboxes to monitor email. Instead my procmail recipe runs a small >shell script when delivering to particular folders, and that script >writes a line to a file I'm monitoring in a small always-open xterm >citing folder, author and subject. > I wouldn't mind taking a look at both the script and the recipe, if you don't mind. I've been wondering how to do that.
Re: Address books and mutt
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Derek D. Martin wrote: > At some point hitherto, Sam Carleton hath spake thusly: > > How does one implement an address book in mutt? > > One implements them as a list of aliases. See the alias command in > the manual. When you are prompted for the To: address, you then hit > the tab key to bring up the list of aliases. > So that's how those are used! I thought you simply typed the alias that you wanted into the to field. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg23043/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Address books and mutt
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Sam Carleton wrote: > > How does one implement an address book in mutt? I use abook -- which is console based as well. When I want to send an email to someone in that list, I simply start abook, hilight who I want to send the email to, and hit m. Then Mutt starts and goes directly to a compose window. It's part of the config file to set up an email client. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: Suggestion for List Etiquette
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Anh Lai wrote: > > > ... On 01/10/02, Knute decided to write ... > > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Nick Croft wrote: > > > > This is quoted text: > > This is quoted text: > > This is quoted text: * Imre Vida ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > This is quoted text: > somewhat different but related: > > This is quoted text: > > > This is quoted text: > wouldn't it be better to use > as a quote-marker char > > This is quoted text: > consistently? > > This is quoted text: > some of the alternatives like "%" i realy dislike > > This is quoted text: > > > This is quoted text: > imre > > This is quoted text: > > > This is quoted text: As Tom Gilbert has it in his sample .muttrc: > > This is quoted text: set indent_str="> " # change this and I'll kill you! ;-) > > This is quoted text: > > This is quoted text: - End forwarded message - > > > > So what do you think? > > (I think I need to put on my asbestos long john's!) > > > > (Note, I merely edited the message, I didn't actually change my reply > > thinggy-ma-jiggy.) 9o) > > > > LOL, that is too funny. It probably would have been easier to change > your reply thinggy-ma-jiggy just to write that email. > > -- > Anh Lai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Yeah, but if I would have done that, I would have probably forgotten about it, and then it would have been afew days before I got around to changing it back! Plus with a couple of the flames I've gotten from a couple of ppl, well.. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: mailboxes command confusion.
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, David T-G wrote: > Mike, et al -- > > ...and then mike ledoux said... > % > % On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:35:29PM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > % > Alas! Andreas Reinhold spake thus: > % > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:47:01PM -0500, Samuel Padgett wrote: > % > > > Wow. You have a 462+ line .muttrc? > % > > > % > > come on, who's got the longest? Mine ist just 192 lines. > % > > % > Mine appears to be 310, broken up across a few files. > % > % Never one to not jump on a vanity thread, mine's 628 lines (and growing) > % across 25 files. Only 30 of those lines are aliases. :) > > Oh, you want to include aliases, too? That makes a big difference... > Actually, I don't have any aliases in my ~/.muttrc file. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: mailboxes command confusion.
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Gerhard Siegesmund wrote: > > > Well, I think mines longest so far but like Knute I downloaded and then > > modified. (That's kinda like an artificial extension or implants: Just > > as impressive visually but we all know they're fake!) > > Weighing in at a whopping 2036 not counting aliases. > > I wonder if all the very long .muttrc-Files (or more files) have to be > that long. With 2036 lines I would believe it reads the mails to you and > deletes spam mail be scanning your brain. Can't this .muttrc-files be > made smaller? Do they really have to be that great or couldn't you > improve a lot of it. Like for example change > > ignore bla > ignore blu > ignore foo > ... > ignore bar > > with > > ignore * > unignore from date subject to cc > > Maybe there is room for improvement here? Or are you forced to this long > .muttrc-files by mutt? I mean ok, my files are together 188 lines. Not > very much. But 900 to 2000 lines. Wow... :-) > > -- > cu > --== Jerri ==-- > Homepage: http://www.jerri.de/ ICQ: 54160208 It could be, but mine sets everything, I suppose that alot of the settings could be put into /etc/Muttrc, but I just haven't yet... -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: fcc by recipient name to a subdir
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Michael Maibaum wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 11:45:20PM -0600, Knute wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 02:00:18PM -0500, David T-G wrote: > > > > % called outbox/ > > > > % this seems easy enough to do if you are saving all the mail to a single > > > > % mailbox, but is there a way to do it if you are saving to recipeint > > > > % named mailboxes? > > > > > > > > Use the %O expando (that's an oh and not a zero, mind you) as outlined in > > > > section 6.3.80 (index_format) in a hook something like > > > > > > > > fcc-save-hook . =outbox/%O > > > > > > OK, in theory, this is exactly what I want... except it doesn't work, it > > > always saves to my name :(outbox/mike > > > > > > looking at the manual, it says fcc-save-hook will match the author or > > > the recipient, although the way it is written it looks like it is > > > supposed to match recipients alone if you are the author (maybe?). > > > if this is looking at both from and the to fields, then the save-hook > > > implicit in fcc-save-hook will overide the mailbox and put it in mike > > > as that is what it matches first > > So then set it up like this: > > fcc-save-hook ~f. =outbox/%O > > > > That should tell it to match anything in the from field. > > (Unless I have even less of a clue as to setting these up than I think!) > but surely I want to match To fields > > well I tried that, and ~C (to match to/cc) and I get the same behavior, > I do notice now though when I *reply* it works properly, just not when I > compose new messages from scratch. > I'm sorry, I don't know where my mind is. I did a search for fcc in the muttrc man page, and there are record and save-address options that you could look into setting, and see if one or the other would help. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: fcc by recipient name to a subdir
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Michael Maibaum wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 02:00:18PM -0500, David T-G wrote: > > Michael -- > > > > ...and then Michael Maibaum said... > > % > > % Hi all, > > % name to the top level of my Mail dir and to please my slightly > > % obbsessive sense of tidieness I would like to move them to a subdir > > % called outbox/ > > % this seems easy enough to do if you are saving all the mail to a single > > % mailbox, but is there a way to do it if you are saving to recipeint > > % named mailboxes? > > > > Use the %O expando (that's an oh and not a zero, mind you) as outlined in > > section 6.3.80 (index_format) in a hook something like > > > > fcc-save-hook . =outbox/%O > > OK, in theory, this is exactly what I want... except it doesn't work, it > always saves to my name :(outbox/mike > > looking at the manual, it says fcc-save-hook will match the author or > the recipient, although the way it is written it looks like it is > supposed to match recipients alone if you are the author (maybe?). > if this is looking at both from and the to fields, then the save-hook > implicit in fcc-save-hook will overide the mailbox and put it in mike > as that is what it matches first > > commenting out the save hook restores the saving to the correctly named > file, just in the wrong place. > > so, still confused... > > Michael > So then set it up like this: fcc-save-hook ~f. =outbox/%O That should tell it to match anything in the from field. (Unless I have even less of a clue as to setting these up than I think!) -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: Suggestion for List Etiquette
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Nick Croft wrote: This is quoted text: This is quoted text: This is quoted text: * Imre Vida ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This is quoted text: > somewhat different but related: This is quoted text: > This is quoted text: > wouldn't it be better to use > as a quote-marker char This is quoted text: > consistently? This is quoted text: > some of the alternatives like "%" i realy dislike This is quoted text: > This is quoted text: > imre This is quoted text: > This is quoted text: As Tom Gilbert has it in his sample .muttrc: This is quoted text: set indent_str="> " # change this and I'll kill you! ;-) This is quoted text: This is quoted text: - End forwarded message - So what do you think? (I think I need to put on my asbestos long john's!) (Note, I merely edited the message, I didn't actually change my reply thinggy-ma-jiggy.) 9o) -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: Suggestion for List Etiquette
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > Alas! Imre Vida spake thus: > > wouldn't it be better to use > as a quote-marker char consistently? > > some of the alternatives like "%" i realy dislike > > This point has come up before. Although I personally like to use '>' > just because I think it's a good character for quoting (it looks like an > arrow, denoting indentation, denoting it was written by somebody else). > > However, in the spirit of Unix, I take comfort in the fact that I am > using a powerful and robust mail client that is intelligent enough to > handle the '%' character properly, unlike some braindead mail clients > that Windows users have been known to love... > > Freedom of expression! More power to David! ;) > > -- > Rob 'Feztaa' Park > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > "Either he's dead or my watch has stopped." > -- Groucho Marx Hrmmm... Maybe I should set mine up to say "This a quoted line: " That would be good huh? 9o) -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: char % as quote
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Jeremy Blosser wrote:
> On Jan 11, Cameron Simpson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > | > set quote_regexp="^([ \t]*([>|:}#%]|[A-Z]{2,3}>))+"
> >
> > the outer (.)+ is two things: a grouping "()" and "one or more"
> > (the "+");
> > BTW this is unneeded guys since this is purely for recognising
> > quoted lines, not matching the entire quoted marker
> > ...
> > The outer "(...)+" is superfluous in my opinion.
>
> Mutt is able to match multiple levels of quoting if you use the ()+. This
> is useful for coloring them different ways:
>
> color quoted greendefault
> color quoted1 yellow default
> color quoted2 greendefault
> color quoted3 yellow default
I have mine set up that way. It's sweet!
It's also easier to follow who wrote what.
--
Knute
You live, You die. Enjoy the interval!
-- Clarence
Re: mailboxes command confusion.
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, mike ledoux wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:35:29PM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > > Alas! Andreas Reinhold spake thus: > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:47:01PM -0500, Samuel Padgett wrote: > > > > Wow. You have a 462+ line .muttrc? > > > > > > come on, who's got the longest? Mine ist just 192 lines. > > > > Mine appears to be 310, broken up across a few files. > > Never one to not jump on a vanity thread, mine's 628 lines (and growing) > across 25 files. Only 30 of those lines are aliases. :) > Mines 995 lines. It's one that I downloaded, then modified. It has tons of comments and whitespace in it though. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: new user
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Michael Tatge wrote: > > Knute muttered: > > On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Daniel & Rachel Bomsta wrote: > > > Thanks Knute it was a bad .signature file! > > > > > > > Well that's 2 cases now of that happening. Maybe a message could be put > > in so that after a timeout of say 5 seconds, that it would post a > > message saying what it is looking for. > > Just a thought. > > ??? > Can you explain that a bit more, please? What do you mean by "bad > .signature file"? I guess, the file was corrupted? > If I point $signature to a non-existing file the only thing that happens > is that there won't be a signature in my message?! > > Michael > -- > Your job is being a professor and researcher: That's one hell of a good excuse > for some of the brain-damages of minix. > (Linus Torvalds to Andrew Tanenbaum) > > PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key In my case, I had set up a signature rotating program... sigrot I think... That was along time ago, and simply forgot about it with everything else going on. I remembered having that, so I decided to set up a signature file, and see if that would take care of it. And it did. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: new user
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Daniel & Rachel Bomsta wrote: > > Thanks Knute it was a bad .signature file! > > Dan Well that's 2 cases now of that happening. Maybe a message could be put in so that after a timeout of say 5 seconds, that it would post a message saying what it is looking for. Just a thought. I'm glad that I could help. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: Possible to get the mail fetched by getmail filtered?
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Charles Jie wrote: > 7. It takes no hard work to prepare man page but it's a big convenience. >Without it, I need to run "$ rpm -ql getmail" to find out the right >document every time, and then copy and paste to run "less" to check it. >Do you have a better approach to do it? Have you tried "rpm -ql getmail > getmail.txt"? It may just put it into a text file for you. It's only a guess as I haven't used rpm in ages myself. 8o) -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: new user
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Nick Wilson wrote: > * On 10-01-02 at 17:58 > * Knute said > > > The signature thing wasn't in the muttrc though. I'm still not sure > > where it is located. And I've checked most of the files in my home > > directory. > > > > And I know that it isn't a global setting because I've reloaded / twice > > since it was set that way. > > > > Weird, Not sure about that. > It's almost as weird that we must have both been posting at the same > time on this thread :) > - -- > > Nick Wilson That it is! :) -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: envelope ?
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Todd Kokoszka wrote: > > > > > What is the envelope_from setting and how is it > > > different from the From: field? Does anyone know > > where > > > I can learn how these function? > > > > It is documented in the manual (section 6.3.43 in > > the manual for Mutt 1.3.25). > > I found the entry for envelope_from, but that doesn't > tell me what an envelope is or does and how that's > different from a From: field. The only thing I know is > that when I include envelope_from, more of mail gets > to where I want it to. I'm trying to figure out what > an envelope is and why it exists. Then I can figure > out what else I should know about mutt and mail. > My understanding may be flawed, but it's the same as using an envelope to mail a letter via snail mail. It's the information that is needed to get it from your mail client to it's reciepient. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: new user
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Nick Wilson wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > * On 10-01-02 at 17:30 > * Daniel & Rachel Bomsta said > > > I am a relatively new user to mutt ( about 2 months ). I have a recent > > problem with mutt-1.3.24. When I compose a message I get the To: prompt and > > enter the address, then I get the Subject: prompt and can enter a subject, I > > hit enter and mutt is frozen. I must kill it and I am still not able to > > compose a message. > > > > Any ideas? > > > Yeah, mutt is probably trying to invoke/run something that is not doing > what it should. With me it was the editor being set to 'vim' not 'vi' > (RedHat weirdity) and this fella knute's mutt was looking for a > signiture that didn't exist. > > Time to sift through that .muttrc! > - -- The signature thing wasn't in the muttrc though. I'm still not sure where it is located. And I've checked most of the files in my home directory. And I know that it isn't a global setting because I've reloaded / twice since it was set that way. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: new user
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Daniel & Rachel Bomsta wrote: > > I am a relatively new user to mutt ( about 2 months ). I have a recent > problem with mutt-1.3.24. When I compose a message I get the To: prompt and > enter the address, then I get the Subject: prompt and can enter a subject, I > hit enter and mutt is frozen. I must kill it and I am still not able to > compose a message. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Dan I had that exact same problem. Turned out that I had set it up to use a signature -- err, actually a signature rotating program, and when that wasn't there anymore, mutt would just sit and wait for a response. I made a signature, and set up my ~/.muttrc file to use it, and now it works. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: send-hook ~t and autoedit
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Hanspeter Roth wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 09:46:32PM -0600, Knute wrote: > > > > Don't you have to define a default hook in the config file before you > > call the send-hook so that mutt knows what it needs to look at first? > > I have: > > set default_hook="~t %s" > send-hook . set record=+sent > > Is there another default hook? > > -Hanpseter Try this: send-hook . 'set record=+sent' -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: send-hook ~t and autoedit
On Tue, 08 Jan 2002, Hanspeter Roth wrote: > > It seems to me send-hook ~t is not working with autoedit and > edit_headers set. > Only the answer from the initial send-menu seems to be considered. > Changes from the invoked editor and the compose menu don't seem to > have any effect. > This is a bug, isn't it? > > -Hanspeter Don't you have to define a default hook in the config file before you call the send-hook so that mutt knows what it needs to look at first? -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: deleted mail folder
On Wed, 09 Jan 2002, Matt Gumbel wrote: > Hi, I'm new to mutt and mutt-users and have been spending the > afternoon configuring mutt the way I want it, but there's a > couple things I can't figure out how to do and was wondering if > anyone here could help me. > > 1) Save deleted messages to a folder instead of deleting them > permanently. I found a patch to do this here: > http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/index.php3#trash > but I'd really rather not recompile mutt. I figure I could do it > be remapping the 'd' key to save the message to a folder or > something, but I have no idea how I would do that. Any ideas? I'm kinda new at this myself, but maybe: bindgeneral d "+trash" \ "Send Message to trash" Don't know if it will work, but you could give it a shot! > 2) When mutt quits, it asks, "Move read messages to > /home/mgumbel/mbox? ([n]/y):" but I don't want it to ask that. I > just want it to leave the messages in my inbox. How do I make it > do that? in your ~/.muttrc file (if there isn't one make it) and then: set move=no > thanks! > > -Matt > > -- > Matt Gumbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Computer Engineering student at the University of Illinois > UNIX sysadmin for Calculus and Mathematica at the University of Illinois -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: From Header, and other questions
My best guess would be to use send-hooks. Maybe something along the lines of: set default_hook="~C %s" send-hook . \ 'my_hdr From: Benjamin Pharr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>' send-hook .*[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ 'my_hdr From: Benjamin Pharr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>' Hope that works. It should, I took it out of some comments from my .muttrc file that I downloaded. 8o) On Wed, 09 Jan 2002, Benjamin Pharr wrote: > > I am fairly new to Mutt, but I have RTFM and done a Google search, so > this is my last resort. I have a few questions I was hoping someone > could answer for me. > > First of all, I have several different e-mail addresses I use for > different purpose. Is there a "right" way to switch between "From" > addresses? > > Also, I have this in my .muttrc: > > set reverse_name = yes > set reverse_realname = yes > > , but Mutt doesn't seem to be honoring it. For instance, when I have an > e-mail come in to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I reply to it, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is put >in the From header. I want the e-mail address that it was sent to to be used in the >reply. > > Finally, I get lots of signed messages off the Debian lists, so I have > automatic verification turned off. Now I can't figure out how to > manually verify a message. I did it once, but I don't remember how. > > If anyone can help me with any of this, I would appreciate it. Thanks! > > Ben Pharr > -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: to_chars question
On Wed, 09 Jan 2002, Michael Tatge wrote: > > %Z includes the to_chars characters > Ok, that's what I needed to know. Thanks! -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: to_chars question
On Wed, 09 Jan 2002, MuttER wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 01:31:45AM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > > Jim Mock wrote: > > > > > > Is there a flag for to_chars to display whether or not the message > > > contains an attachment? I looked through the manual, but don't see > > > one (appears there's only " +TCFL"). Am I missing something or is > > > there some other way to do this? > > > > i use a patch from: > > > > http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/mutt/#attach > > > > that might do what you want. > > > > it adds a new variable for index_format to show either message size, or > > (if there are attachments), the number of attachments. > > > > it looks something like this, the way i have it setup: > > > > 69 L Dec 25 Philip Mak (1*) "Perfect" mbox to Maildir converter > > > > where '1' is the number of attachments. > > > > HTH > > > > w > ---end quoted text--- > > This should be considered for incorporation as an included > feature/option/whatever. > -- > Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 > Registered at: http://counter.li.org Since this came up here, I'm going to ask, since I'm curious. I added the %T for the to_chars stuff in my index. What I noticed is that the Message Statuses seem to echo that to a certain extent. (I only did it today, and have yet to see difference.) What is the diff between the to_chars (%T) and the message status flags (%Z)? -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: How do I set up Mutt to reply to lists
On Wed, 09 Jan 2002, Nick Wilson wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > * On 09-01-02 at 17:59 > * Knute said > > > Now that I can send mail from my computer again, I'm running into a > > frusterating issue. This issue also prevented me from telling you how I > > fixed that before, cause the message only went to one person! > > > > When I hit r to reply to a message, the To: field is set to whoever > > sent the message, rather than the group. I can edit the fields, that's > > not a problem, but it's just an ease of use type of thing. > > Any ideas? > > Yeah, the manual :) > > in your muttrc > > subscribe mutt-users > > to list reply the default binding is 'L' I had read about the list_reply, but didn't know about the binding for it. > or you can use 'g' for group. > > There is quite a lot of stuff on lists at www.mutt.org > I'm sure you'll find it interesting. I'll have to do some reading later today. Thanks. > > Oh and don't forget > > set sort=threads > Always! > H > > Nick Wilson > > Tel: +45 3325 0688 > Fax: +45 3325 0677 > Web: www.explodingnet.com > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE8PHgwHpvrrTa6L5oRAvClAJ45t0T5FjVhOs9A3KUaFVsyV29TjQCfetlk > 7/gzgscPLr9201nVJk8lxkE= > =NZDC > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: How do I set up Mutt to reply to lists
LOL Glad it was only a short between the keyboard and chair! Thanks to both of you. 8o) On Wed, 09 Jan 2002, Dave Smith wrote: > On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 09:50:57AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Now that I can send mail from my computer again, I'm running into a > > frusterating issue. This issue also prevented me from telling you how I > > fixed that before, cause the message only went to one person! > > > > When I hit r to reply to a message, the To: field is set to whoever > > sent the message, rather than the group. I can edit the fields, that's > > not a problem, but it's just an ease of use type of thing. > > Any ideas? > > Tell mutt about the mailing list, and then use 'L' instead of 'r'. > > Instructions in the manual at www.mutt.org. > > -- > David Smith Tel: +44 (0)1454 462380 (direct) > STMicroelectronicsFax: +44 (0)1454 617910 > 1000 Aztec WestTINA (ST only): (065) 2380 > Almondsbury Home: 01454 616963 > BRISTOLMobile: 07932 642724 > BS32 4SQ Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Home Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
How do I set up Mutt to reply to lists
Now that I can send mail from my computer again, I'm running into a frusterating issue. This issue also prevented me from telling you how I fixed that before, cause the message only went to one person! When I hit r to reply to a message, the To: field is set to whoever sent the message, rather than the group. I can edit the fields, that's not a problem, but it's just an ease of use type of thing. Any ideas? Oh yeah. The problem that was keeping me from sending mail was that it was looking for a signature. Once I made on, it was fine. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence
Re: Can't send mail from my profile
Ok, so then how to I get vim into my profile. I use vim all the time from w3m, and on it's own from the command line, even, so I'm not sure why it isn't working for mutt. --- Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Knute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020108 08:39]: > > Ok, I've been fighting this for awhile now and I'm > getting > > tired of it. > > > > It was actually the reason that I joined his list > anyway. > > 8o) > > > > I can't send mail from mutt on my computer, and I'm not > > sure why. > > > > I know that my config files are ok, cause I can send > mail > > from mutt from my son's login, using my config files! > > > > When I try to send mail, it comes up with the To: > > I put that in, then the Subject: comes up, and when I > put > > something in there and hit enter, it just stays there. > > Any ideas? > > Hi > Sounds like the editor you've chosen does'nt exist in > your profile. > I suggest this because it took me a while to work out > that my call to > vim should actually be to vi (same thing but on my redhat > box this is > how it's done) If the editor won't run then nothing > happens, > > Check the editor you call is in your profiles path as it > clearly is with > your sons. > > HTH. > -- > > Nick Wilson > > Tel: +45 3325 0688 > Fax: +45 3325 0677 > Web: www.explodingnet.com > > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature = Knute 8~) +-+ | You live. You die. Enjoy the interval.| | -- Swiftey (Clarence) | +-+ __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
Can't send mail from my profile
Ok, I've been fighting this for awhile now and I'm getting tired of it. It was actually the reason that I joined his list anyway. 8o) I can't send mail from mutt on my computer, and I'm not sure why. I know that my config files are ok, cause I can send mail from mutt from my son's login, using my config files! When I try to send mail, it comes up with the To: I put that in, then the Subject: comes up, and when I put something in there and hit enter, it just stays there. Any ideas? = Knute 8~) +-+ | You live. You die. Enjoy the interval.| | -- Swiftey (Clarence) | +-+ __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
Re: A warning about mbox-hooks
Actually, I tried the mbox-hook, cause I wanted to compress the read messages in certain folders to one with the same name except have the .gz extension. Well, my messages didn't show up in my ~/Mail folder. As it was a compressed file it was easy to find. Basically it defaulted to saving it in my /home directory. The way that I fixed it was to do this: mbox-hook mbox ~/Mail/mbox-read.gz It then saved it in my Mail file without any problem. Your messages are most likely in your home directory in the file python-list-save. 8o) --- Ben Logan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry if this is pointed out in the manual...I missed it. > > For those who might not think about it (like me), do NOT > save your > messages (using an mbox-hook) to a mailbox which matches > the regular > expression used in the same hook. For example: > > mbox-hook python-list python-list-save > > This will delete all the messages you think you are > saving. At least > it wiped out several hundred saved messages for me. :( > > It might work to do > > mbox-hook ^python-list$ python-list-save > > but I haven't tried it. > > Regards, > Ben > > -- > Ben Logan: ben at wblogan dot net > OpenPGP Key KeyID: A1ADD1F0 = Knute 8~) +-+ | You live. You die. Enjoy the interval.| | -- Swiftey (Clarence) | +-+ __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
