Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-31 Thread Tim Johnson
* Johan De Meersman vegiv...@tuxera.be [121031 07:10]:
  
 Given the different location of the datafiles and assuming the
 actual drupal does work, I'm starting to suspect that whatever
 installer you used created a second instance of mysql. Your drupal
 configfile should hold the necessary data to connect to it.

  You are correct. Running on 3307. (from settings.php) But even
  loging into that instance was not showing me the drupal
  databases - so I was stumped! I would guess that was because the
  3307 instance was using the system-wide my.cnf instead of the
  drupal my.cnf. I could not see from documentation how to invoke
  mysql or mysqldump with a specific my.cnf.
  See my response to your other email.
  thanks Johan
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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-31 Thread Tim Johnson
* Johan De Meersman vegiv...@tuxera.be [121031 07:10]:
 Tim Johnson t...@akwebsoft.com wrote:
 
 * Ananda Kumar anan...@gmail.com [121030 09:48]:
  why dont u create a softlink
  From /opt/local/var/db/mysql5/ to /opt/local/var/db/mysql5/ ???
 
  I can try that, but I am doing things to MySQL that I have never
  done before and I am reluctant to risk clobbering a complex
  development environment that has nothing to do with drupal.
  After all, I am just playing with drupal.
 
  I'd welcome your elaboration or a second opinion.
 
 If I'm right about the second instance, that will cause the files
 to be opened by both daemons. Which is rather on the bad side of
 things.
  Sounds like good judgement on your part. As I have already posted
  to the ML, I was forced to use the drupal backup_migrate module.
  When in drupal do as the drupals do.
  cheers 
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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-31 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 31.10.2012 16:34, schrieb Tim Johnson:
 * Johan De Meersman vegiv...@tuxera.be [121031 07:10]:
   
 Given the different location of the datafiles and assuming the
 actual drupal does work, I'm starting to suspect that whatever
 installer you used created a second instance of mysql. Your drupal
 configfile should hold the necessary data to connect to it.
 
   You are correct. Running on 3307. (from settings.php) But even
   loging into that instance was not showing me the drupal
   databases - so I was stumped! I would guess that was because the
   3307 instance was using the system-wide my.cnf instead of the
   drupal my.cnf. I could not see from documentation how to invoke
   mysql or mysqldump with a specific my.cnf.
   See my response to your other email.
   thanks Johan

you MUST NOT use localhost if you want to connect to
a different mysqld-port because localhost is unix-socket

mysql -h 127.0.0.1 --port=3307 -u username -p



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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-31 Thread Tim Johnson
* Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net [121031 08:12]:
 
 
 Am 31.10.2012 16:34, schrieb Tim Johnson:
  * Johan De Meersman vegiv...@tuxera.be [121031 07:10]:

  Given the different location of the datafiles and assuming the
  actual drupal does work, I'm starting to suspect that whatever
  installer you used created a second instance of mysql. Your drupal
  configfile should hold the necessary data to connect to it.
  
You are correct. Running on 3307. (from settings.php) But even
loging into that instance was not showing me the drupal
databases - so I was stumped! I would guess that was because the
3307 instance was using the system-wide my.cnf instead of the
drupal my.cnf. I could not see from documentation how to invoke
mysql or mysqldump with a specific my.cnf.
See my response to your other email.
thanks Johan
 
 you MUST NOT use localhost if you want to connect to
 a different mysqld-port because localhost is unix-socket
 
 mysql -h 127.0.0.1 --port=3307 -u username -p
  I get access denied when I do that. 
  thanks

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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-31 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 01.11.2012 01:54, schrieb Tim Johnson:
 * Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net [121031 08:12]:
 you MUST NOT use localhost if you want to connect to
 a different mysqld-port because localhost is unix-socket

 mysql -h 127.0.0.1 --port=3307 -u username -p
   I get access denied when I do that. 
   thanks

don't get me wrong - but do you have any clue about
what you are doing?

replace username with the username drupal is using
enter the password drupal is using

you got MANY options in thsi thread

* let point your default mysqld-datadir to the one
  the drupal setup used and export the data, after
  that restore /etc/my.cnf as it is now

* stop ANY mysqld instance and copy the db-folder
  to your used instance

* connect to the instance as asid with 127.0.0.1

if you are not able or/and willing to do any of these
3 options i am really out of hope that you should
do whatever you believe is your job by missing
basic understanding




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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-31 Thread Tim Johnson
* Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net [121031 17:22]:
 
 
 Am 01.11.2012 01:54, schrieb Tim Johnson:
  * Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net [121031 08:12]:
  you MUST NOT use localhost if you want to connect to
  a different mysqld-port because localhost is unix-socket
 
  mysql -h 127.0.0.1 --port=3307 -u username -p
I get access denied when I do that. 
thanks
 
 don't get me wrong - but do you have any clue about
 what you are doing?
  Did you not note that I have a solution? I am clearly
  aware of the options that you outline below.

  Let it go. You are ahead of me on your knowledge base and clearly
  you are trying to help everybody. I no longer need your help so
  don't waste your time on me. (this time)

  :) Maybe I will need you help again some day.
  In the meantime, good luck and keep up the good work!
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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-30 Thread Tim Johnson
* 小刀 13488684...@163.com [121029 18:43]:
 You can the the /etc/my.cnf and file the parameter about the data_dir
  I'm sorry. I don't understand.
  I might try cp -p -r, but need a second opinion.
  BTW: No need to CC me.

  thanks
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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-30 Thread Kishore Vaishnav
Is it the question that how to dump drupal database ? then here is one of
the option. You can look at the details mentioned in the
default/settings.php file and use mysql to export the data. Or the other
option to install a module in Drupal Backup  Restore which can you just
login thru drupal and you can take a dump of the existing database if you
have admin credentials.

*thanks  regards,*
*__*
Kishore Kumar Vaishnav
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On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Tim Johnson t...@akwebsoft.com wrote:

 * 小刀 13488684...@163.com [121029 18:43]:
  You can the the /etc/my.cnf and file the parameter about the data_dir
   I'm sorry. I don't understand.
   I might try cp -p -r, but need a second opinion.
   BTW: No need to CC me.

   thanks
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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-30 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 30.10.2012 17:17, schrieb Hassan Schroeder:
 On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Tim Johnson t...@akwebsoft.com wrote:
 
   I might try cp -p -r, but need a second opinion.
 
 If you want to dump one or more databases, presumably you know
 the name(s); just use the mysqldump utility. Copying files is not the
 optimal way to save your data for most use cases.

if it are MyISAM tables it is the best way because all data
are in a folder with the database name - i never in my life
used a dump to migrate mysql-databases while started with
MySQL-3.x long years ago and moved them between Linux,
Windows and MacOSX and we speak about some hundret databases
with 5000 tables



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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-30 Thread Tim Johnson
* Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net [121030 08:25]:
 if it are MyISAM tables it is the best way because all data
 are in a folder with the database name - i never in my life
 used a dump to migrate mysql-databases while started with
 MySQL-3.x long years ago and moved them between Linux,
 Windows and MacOSX and we speak about some hundret databases
 with 5000 tables

  Clearly, I have failed to pose my question clearly, because the
  responses indicate that I have not been understood, so I will try
  again:

  *
  mysqldump does not recognize the drupal databases!
Example :
  linus:prj tim$ mysqldump event -hlocalhost -utim
  -pXX  event.sql
  mysqldump: Got error: 1049: Unknown database 'event' when
  selecting the database

  mysql does not find the drupal databases!

  PHPMyAdmin does not find the drupal databases!

  That is to say that my invocation of the applications above fails
  to find the drupal databases!
  *
  I remain as dumb as ever, but I hope I have made myself clearer
  regards
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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-30 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 30.10.2012 17:34, schrieb Tim Johnson:
 * Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net [121030 08:25]:
 if it are MyISAM tables it is the best way because all data
 are in a folder with the database name - i never in my life
 used a dump to migrate mysql-databases while started with
 MySQL-3.x long years ago and moved them between Linux,
 Windows and MacOSX and we speak about some hundret databases
 with 5000 tables
 
   Clearly, I have failed to pose my question clearly, because the
   responses indicate that I have not been understood, so I will try
   again:
 
   *
   mysqldump does not recognize the drupal databases!
 Example :
   linus:prj tim$ mysqldump event -hlocalhost -utim
   -pXX  event.sql
   mysqldump: Got error: 1049: Unknown database 'event' when
   selecting the database
 
   mysql does not find the drupal databases!
   PHPMyAdmin does not find the drupal databases!

your first message:

The drupal mysql datafiles are located at
 /Applications/drupal-7.15-0/mysql/data

 as opposed to /opt/local/var/db/mysql5 for
 'customary' mysql.

this crap is outside your mysqldata

and that is why it was suggested that you teporary change
the datadir of your mysqld to /Applications/drupal-7.15-0/mysql/data
or if this are only MyISAM-atbles FOR SURE you can simply move
the database folders in your running mysqld-datadir

typical MacOSX-style to throw things around the whole
machine without any logical structure like applications
in the userhome.. this is the price someone has to
pay for a poor operating system without package management



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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-30 Thread Tim Johnson
* Tim Johnson t...@akwebsoft.com [121030 08:37]:
   *
   I remain as dumb as ever, but I hope I have made myself clearer
   regards
  To elaborate further : See this entry from mysql --help
  
  Default options are read from the following files in the given
  order:
  /etc/my.cnf /etc/mysql/my.cnf /opt/local/etc/mysql5/my.cnf
  ~/.my.cnf
  
  /Applications/drupal-7.15-0/mysql/my.cnf is __not__ being read.
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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-30 Thread Shawn Green

On 10/30/2012 12:34 PM, Tim Johnson wrote:

... snip ...

   Clearly, I have failed to pose my question clearly, because the
   responses indicate that I have not been understood, so I will try
   again:

   *
   mysqldump does not recognize the drupal databases!
 Example :
   linus:prj tim$ mysqldump event -hlocalhost -utim
   -pXX  event.sql
   mysqldump: Got error: 1049: Unknown database 'event' when
   selecting the database
... snip ...


Your syntax is inverted. Put the name of the database at the end.

mysqldump -hlocalhost -utim -pXX event event.sql

If you fail to do so, you would login as the 'anonymous user' if it is 
still enabled on that machine and that account typically has zero 
privileges.


Check the command-line syntax here:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/mysqldump.html


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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-30 Thread Tim Johnson
* Shawn Green shawn.l.gr...@oracle.com [121030 09:01]:
 On 10/30/2012 12:34 PM, Tim Johnson wrote:
 ... snip ...
 
Clearly, I have failed to pose my question clearly, because the
responses indicate that I have not been understood, so I will try
again:
 
*
mysqldump does not recognize the drupal databases!
  Example :
linus:prj tim$ mysqldump event -hlocalhost -utim
-pXX  event.sql
mysqldump: Got error: 1049: Unknown database 'event' when
selecting the database
 ... snip ...
 
 Your syntax is inverted. Put the name of the database at the end.
 
 mysqldump -hlocalhost -utim -pXX event event.sql
 
 If you fail to do so, you would login as the 'anonymous user' if it is 
 still enabled on that machine and that account typically has zero 
 privileges.
  You are correct of course, but that does not solve the original
  problem.
  thanks
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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-30 Thread Tim Johnson
* Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net [121030 08:49]:
 The drupal mysql datafiles are located at
  /Applications/drupal-7.15-0/mysql/data
 
  as opposed to /opt/local/var/db/mysql5 for
  'customary' mysql.
 
 this crap is outside your mysqldata
 I don't know what you mean by crap. Sorry. 
 Actually I do ... you're about to embark on a rant about Mac.
 Go for it! :)

 and that is why it was suggested that you teporary change
 the datadir of your mysqld to /Applications/drupal-7.15-0/mysql/data
 or if this are only MyISAM-atbles FOR SURE you can simply move
 the database folders in your running mysqld-datadir
  What would you suggest as a fool-proof method to accomplish this?
  I hate to tweak the 'original' my.cnf, I could add a ~/.my.cnf
  but how would I do that without clobbering my 'non-drupal' mysql?

  I want to reiterate that cp -p -r might actually be the solution,
  but have not tried that approach in the past

 typical MacOSX-style to throw things around the whole
 machine without any logical structure like applications
 in the userhome.. this is the price someone has to
 pay for a poor operating system without package management
  Oh don't get me started! Grr! If truth be told, I'm a long-time
  linux user and new to OS X. 
  
  You are preaching to the converted my friend. 
  
  I'm not certain I like the way acquaire did the setup. I
  didn't have this problem when I played with drupal on ubuntu.


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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-30 Thread Ananda Kumar
why dont u create a softlink

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Tim Johnson t...@akwebsoft.com wrote:

 * Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net [121030 08:49]:
  The drupal mysql datafiles are located at
   /Applications/drupal-7.15-0/mysql/data
  
   as opposed to /opt/local/var/db/mysql5 for
   'customary' mysql.
 
  this crap is outside your mysqldata
  I don't know what you mean by crap. Sorry.
  Actually I do ... you're about to embark on a rant about Mac.
  Go for it! :)

  and that is why it was suggested that you teporary change
  the datadir of your mysqld to /Applications/drupal-7.15-0/mysql/data
  or if this are only MyISAM-atbles FOR SURE you can simply move
  the database folders in your running mysqld-datadir
   What would you suggest as a fool-proof method to accomplish this?
   I hate to tweak the 'original' my.cnf, I could add a ~/.my.cnf
   but how would I do that without clobbering my 'non-drupal' mysql?

   I want to reiterate that cp -p -r might actually be the solution,
   but have not tried that approach in the past

  typical MacOSX-style to throw things around the whole
  machine without any logical structure like applications
  in the userhome.. this is the price someone has to
  pay for a poor operating system without package management
   Oh don't get me started! Grr! If truth be told, I'm a long-time
   linux user and new to OS X.

   You are preaching to the converted my friend.

   I'm not certain I like the way acquaire did the setup. I
   didn't have this problem when I played with drupal on ubuntu.

 
 Great minds run in the same gutter.
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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-30 Thread Tim Johnson
* Kishore Vaishnav kish...@railsfactory.org [121030 08:25]:
...snip
 Or the other option to install a module in Drupal Backup 
 Restore which can you just login thru drupal and you can take a
 dump of the existing database if you have admin credentials.
  OK. Use drupal directly? That makes sense. I see from
  http://drupal.org/node/22281 that there are backup and DB admin
  modules. I will take a look at them. 
  thanks
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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-30 Thread Tim Johnson
* Ananda Kumar anan...@gmail.com [121030 09:48]:
 why dont u create a softlink
 From /opt/local/var/db/mysql5/ to /opt/local/var/db/mysql5/ ???

 I can try that, but I am doing things to MySQL that I have never
 done before and I am reluctant to risk clobbering a complex
 development environment that has nothing to do with drupal.
 After all, I am just playing with drupal.

 I'd welcome your elaboration or a second opinion.
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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-30 Thread Tim Johnson
* Hassan Schroeder hassan.schroe...@gmail.com [121030 08:25]:
 On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Tim Johnson t...@akwebsoft.com wrote:
 
I might try cp -p -r, but need a second opinion.
 
 If you want to dump one or more databases, presumably you know
 the name(s); just use the mysqldump utility. Copying files is not the
 optimal way to save your data for most use cases.
  Hi Hassan :
  As you have probably noted, this thread has grown considerable and
  I did not post all issues in the OP, but the fact is:

  ** mysqldump, mysql, and phpmyadmin do not see the drupal DBs
 (presumably) because they are under a datadir that is not
 included in the my.cnf files that are being seached by mysql 
  **
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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-30 Thread Tim Johnson
OP :
* Tim Johnson t...@akwebsoft.com [121029 16:28]:
 I've recently unstalled drupal 7.15 on Mac OS X 10.7.
 
 I want to back up the mysql data for drupal.
 However, I can't locate those databases and tables using MySQL
 server or PHPMyAdmin, even if I start mysql on port 3307.
 
 The drupal mysql datafiles are located at
 /Applications/drupal-7.15-0/mysql/data
 
 as opposed to /opt/local/var/db/mysql5 for
 'customary' mysql.
  I will be gone for several hours.

  Then I'm going to look at a drupal-specic (modular) way of doing
  database management before anything else.  I'm an under the hood
  kind of guy, but when in drupal do as drupal does (perhaps).

  thanks for all of the replies
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Re: Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-30 Thread Tim Johnson
* Tim Johnson t...@akwebsoft.com [121030 10:40]:
 OP :
 * Tim Johnson t...@akwebsoft.com [121029 16:28]:
...snip
  I want to back up the mysql data for drupal.
  However, I can't locate those databases and tables using MySQL
  server or PHPMyAdmin, even if I start mysql on port 3307.
...snip 
   Then I'm going to look at a drupal-specic (modular) way of doing
   database management before anything else.  I'm an under the hood
   kind of guy, but when in drupal do as drupal does (perhaps).
 sigh I wanted to do this in a CLI mode and that's 'cuz I'm a CLI
 type of fellow. But as they say : when in Rome (drupal) do as the
 Romans (drupals) do. 

 So, I installed the backup_migrate module and it created a backup
 file of .mysql extension without any effort
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Dumping drupal databases

2012-10-29 Thread Tim Johnson
I've recently unstalled drupal 7.15 on Mac OS X 10.7.

I want to back up the mysql data for drupal.
However, I can't locate those databases and tables using MySQL
server or PHPMyAdmin, even if I start mysql on port 3307.

The drupal mysql datafiles are located at
/Applications/drupal-7.15-0/mysql/data

as opposed to /opt/local/var/db/mysql5 for
'customary' mysql.

How can I accomplish this?
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