MySQL AB has reached a settlement with NuSphere Corporation
Hi! MySQL AB is pleased to announce that it has settled its lawsuit with Progress Software Corporation and NuSphere Corporation. For more information, see the joint press release at http://www.mysql.com/press/release_2002_14.html Regards, Monty -- __ ___ ___ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ /Mr. Michael Widenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ MySQL AB, CTO /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ Helsinki, Finland ___/ www.mysql.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: MySQL AB has reached a settlement with NuSphere Corporation
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Michael Widenius wrote: MySQL AB is pleased to announce that it has settled its lawsuit with Progress Software Corporation and NuSphere Corporation. For more information, see the joint press release at http://www.mysql.com/press/release_2002_14.html The press release sounds like typical PR puffery. Is any meat going to come out beyond it's settled? -- /chris Programming is a Dark Art, and it will always be. The programmer is fighting against the two most destructive forces in the universe: entropy and human stupidity. They're not things you can always overcome with a methodology or on a schedule. -Damian Conway, Perl God - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: MySQL AB has reached a settlement with NuSphere Corporation
Can someone post the piece of News, for the folks that cant get into the page (I dont have access to web from where I am now...) Thanks, Leo. - Original Message - From: Christopher Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Widenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mysql List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: Re: MySQL AB has reached a settlement with NuSphere Corporation On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Michael Widenius wrote: MySQL AB is pleased to announce that it has settled its lawsuit with Progress Software Corporation and NuSphere Corporation. For more information, see the joint press release at http://www.mysql.com/press/release_2002_14.html The press release sounds like typical PR puffery. Is any meat going to come out beyond it's settled? -- /chris Programming is a Dark Art, and it will always be. The programmer is fighting against the two most destructive forces in the universe: entropy and human stupidity. They're not things you can always overcome with a methodology or on a schedule. -Damian Conway, Perl God - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: MySQL AB has reached a settlement with NuSphere Corporation
MySQL AB and Nusphere Corporation Announce Settlement07 Nov 2002 UPPSALA, Sweden and BEDFORD, Massachusetts, (November 7, 2002) - MySQL AB, developer of the world's most popular open source database, and NuSphere Corporation, an independent operating company of Progress Software Corporation, today announced a settlement of the dispute between the two companies regarding use of the MySQL trademarks, copyrights, and compliance with the GNU General Public License (GPL). The settlement resolves all outstanding issues between the two companies including ownership and use of trademarks and domain names and assignment to MySQL AB of copyrights for all NuSphere contributions to the MySQL program, and MySQL AB has issued a letter to NuSphere Corporation verifying GPL compliance. We are happy to resolve this dispute, said Olivier Beutels, Sales Executive, Northern Europe, MySQL AB. These past months of discussion with NuSphere regarding trademark rights and GPL issues have confirmed for us all that open source software can flourish free under the GPL license and commercially when the situation merits it. We are pleased to reach this amicable settlement and resolve the issues between the two companies, said Dmitri Dmitrienko, General Manager Europe, NuSphere Corporation. We look forward to getting back to the normal run of business and plan to continue shipping the MySQL database in the NuSphere Technology Platform, and remain focused on our flagship product. About MySQL AB MySQL AB develops, markets and supports the MySQL database server, the world's most popular open source database. With over 4 million installations and 27,000 downloads per day, MySQL is the de facto open source database leader and is quickly becoming the core of many high-volume, business-critical applications. The MySQL database is available under the free software/open source GNU General Public License (GPL) or a non-GPL commercial license. For more information about MySQL, please go to www.mysql.com. MySQL is a registered trademark of MySQL AB in Sweden and other countries. MySQL is a trademark in the United States and other countries. About NuSphere Corporation NuSphere delivers the first Internet Application Platform (IAP) based on open source components, providing an integrated foundation that allows companies to deploy reliable, cost-effective, enterprise-class applications across Windows, UNIX and Linux environments. NuSphere® PHPEd(tm) Advantage is an integrated software suite that pairs the reliability and cost-effectiveness of PHP, Apache, Perl and open source databases with PHPEd, the leading PHP development environment for building business-critical web applications and web services. Based in Bedford, Mass., the company's commercial software services include technical support, consulting and training. For more information, visit www.nusphere.com or call +1-781-280-4600. NuSphere is a registered trademark of NuSphere Corporation in the United States and other countries. PHPEd is a trademark of NuSphere Corporation in the United States and other countries. Other marks mentioned in this press release are the trademarks of their respective owners. -Original Message- From: Leonardo Javier Belén [mailto:lbelen;afip.gov.ar] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 2:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MySQL AB has reached a settlement with NuSphere Corporation Can someone post the piece of News, for the folks that cant get into the page (I dont have access to web from where I am now...) Thanks, Leo. - Original Message - From: Christopher Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Widenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mysql List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: Re: MySQL AB has reached a settlement with NuSphere Corporation On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Michael Widenius wrote: MySQL AB is pleased to announce that it has settled its lawsuit with Progress Software Corporation and NuSphere Corporation. For more information, see the joint press release at http://www.mysql.com/press/release_2002_14.html The press release sounds like typical PR puffery. Is any meat going to come out beyond it's settled? -- /chris Programming is a Dark Art, and it will always be. The programmer is fighting against the two most destructive forces in the universe: entropy and human stupidity. They're not things you can always overcome with a methodology or on a schedule. -Damian Conway, Perl God - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check
Re: MySQL AB has reached a settlement with NuSphere Corporation
hi, MySQL AB is pleased to announce that it has settled its lawsuit with Progress Software Corporation and NuSphere Corporation. For more information, see the joint press release at http://www.mysql.com/press/release_2002_14.html Here's some background-info on the lawsuit: http://www.mysql.com/news/article-75.html http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/07/1942254mode=nestedtid=123 -daniel - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Help Migrating from NuSphere
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 16 October 2002 20:50, Mark Graves wrote: Previously I had been a NuSphere subscriber for MySQL (and PHP and Apache). As you probably know, NuSphere no longer produces or supports the MySQL product. How do I migrate out of the NuSphere? I currently have: RH Linux 7.2 (kernel 2.4.9-34) MySQL 3.23.44-100.nusphere Location: /usr/local/nusphere/mysql/bin I would like to move everything over to the current version of MySQL directly from MySQL without loosing all my databases and/or creating other problems. What the best (easiest) way to do this? The easiest way I can think of is to dump the tables into a separate file (using mysqldump), remove the Nushpere MySQL installation and install one of the MySQL packages. Afterwards you can simply pipe the dumped files into the new database. Bye, LenZ - -- For technical support contracts, visit https://order.mysql.com/?ref=mlgr __ ___ ___ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ /Mr. Lenz Grimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ MySQL AB, Production Engineer /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ Hamburg, Germany ___/ www.mysql.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9rpB2SVDhKrJykfIRAgssAJ9w9ptqvrOXG2jzTJCHIgadbZ02WQCdESia vU2cVFV+Nz02LCQUHphsh9w= =a+8+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Help Migrating from NuSphere
Previously I had been a NuSphere subscriber for MySQL (and PHP and Apache). As you probably know, NuSphere no longer produces or supports the MySQL product. How do I migrate out of the NuSphere? I currently have: RH Linux 7.2 (kernel 2.4.9-34) MySQL 3.23.44-100.nusphere Location: /usr/local/nusphere/mysql/bin I would like to move everything over to the current version of MySQL directly from MySQL without loosing all my databases and/or creating other problems. What the best (easiest) way to do this? Thanks in advance, mg - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: NuSphere v. MySQL 4
Hi! martinG == martin tunggorono [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: martinG Thanks for the article it is definitely helpful and narrow down my choice. martinG Anything against the 4.0 MAX here? MySQL 4.0.1 max should be quite safe to use Note that as InnodB is already included in the standard MySQL 4.0.1 version, I would suggest that you use this instead... Regards, Monty -- For technical support contracts, goto https://order.mysql.com/ __ ___ ___ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ /Mr. Michael Widenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ MySQL AB, CTO /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ Helsinki, Finland ___/ www.mysql.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
MySQL AB vs NuSphere Court Case Decision (ongoing)
In case anyone is interested, here is the link for the on going saga of MySQL AB vs NuSphere court case, soon to be made in a TV mini-series (just joking). http://newsforge.com/ Brent _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: NuSphere v. MySQL 4
Please be careful of reading only half of the story, unfortunately the article in question only talks about -Original Message- From: Tyler Longren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 3:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NuSphere v. MySQL 4 I suggest you use MySQL from MySQL AB. Progress Software (parent of NuSphere), is having some legal troubles. http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/02/26/1825200 Tyler - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:01 PM Subject: NuSphere v. MySQL 4 Hello, I'm not sure if this list is appropriate for this issue but I'll go ahead ask for your input anyway. We're trying to decide to choose DBMS as a backend of our web portal. The portal will take online orders and other requests from end users and this is going to be available enterprise wide (WAN) for approx. 19,000 employees. As Oracle license cost is getting too high for this purpose, I'm thinking of using MySQL instead. However, I saw two different versions here (NuSphere vs. MySQL AB) and cannot decide which one is better to use. Now, my questions are: 1. What would be your recommendation for me to use, what are the advantages / disadvantages of using NuSphere's (or MySQL AB's) products other than the different pricing here? 2. Is it true that Gemini type table from NuSphere is much better than other types (e.g. InnoDB). How about the installation and config themselves, any issues I should know about from each product? We're going to install it on a W2000 server on the same box as the web portal. 3. Is it safe enough to use MySQL v.4.0.1 instead of 3.23.49. How about the MAX 4.0.1., is this better? Although reliability is important this application is not mission critical. Sorry for the many questions, but I'm really new to MySQL and I want to feel comfortable with it before I decide to use this. I'd greatly appreciate any input from all of you. Thanks, Martin **Disclaimer** This Memo and any attachments, may be confidential and legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this in error, kindly destroy this message and notify the sender. Thank you for your assistance. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: NuSphere v. MySQL 4
Please be careful of reading only half of the story, unfortunately the article in question only talks about half of the issues. See http://www.nusphere.com/releases/index.htm for more information and related documents. Britt... -Original Message- From: Tyler Longren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 3:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NuSphere v. MySQL 4 I suggest you use MySQL from MySQL AB. Progress Software (parent of NuSphere), is having some legal troubles. http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/02/26/1825200 Tyler - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:01 PM Subject: NuSphere v. MySQL 4 Hello, I'm not sure if this list is appropriate for this issue but I'll go ahead ask for your input anyway. We're trying to decide to choose DBMS as a backend of our web portal. The portal will take online orders and other requests from end users and this is going to be available enterprise wide (WAN) for approx. 19,000 employees. As Oracle license cost is getting too high for this purpose, I'm thinking of using MySQL instead. However, I saw two different versions here (NuSphere vs. MySQL AB) and cannot decide which one is better to use. Now, my questions are: 1. What would be your recommendation for me to use, what are the advantages / disadvantages of using NuSphere's (or MySQL AB's) products other than the different pricing here? 2. Is it true that Gemini type table from NuSphere is much better than other types (e.g. InnoDB). How about the installation and config themselves, any issues I should know about from each product? We're going to install it on a W2000 server on the same box as the web portal. 3. Is it safe enough to use MySQL v.4.0.1 instead of 3.23.49. How about the MAX 4.0.1., is this better? Although reliability is important this application is not mission critical. Sorry for the many questions, but I'm really new to MySQL and I want to feel comfortable with it before I decide to use this. I'd greatly appreciate any input from all of you. Thanks, Martin **Disclaimer** This Memo and any attachments, may be confidential and legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this in error, kindly destroy this message and notify the sender. Thank you for your assistance. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
NuSphere v. MySQL 4
Hello, I'm not sure if this list is appropriate for this issue but I'll go ahead ask for your input anyway. We're trying to decide to choose DBMS as a backend of our web portal. The portal will take online orders and other requests from end users and this is going to be available enterprise wide (WAN) for approx. 19,000 employees. As Oracle license cost is getting too high for this purpose, I'm thinking of using MySQL instead. However, I saw two different versions here (NuSphere vs. MySQL AB) and cannot decide which one is better to use. Now, my questions are: 1. What would be your recommendation for me to use, what are the advantages / disadvantages of using NuSphere's (or MySQL AB's) products other than the different pricing here? 2. Is it true that Gemini type table from NuSphere is much better than other types (e.g. InnoDB). How about the installation and config themselves, any issues I should know about from each product? We're going to install it on a W2000 server on the same box as the web portal. 3. Is it safe enough to use MySQL v.4.0.1 instead of 3.23.49. How about the MAX 4.0.1., is this better? Although reliability is important this application is not mission critical. Sorry for the many questions, but I'm really new to MySQL and I want to feel comfortable with it before I decide to use this. I'd greatly appreciate any input from all of you. Thanks, Martin **Disclaimer** This Memo and any attachments, may be confidential and legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this in error, kindly destroy this message and notify the sender. Thank you for your assistance. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: NuSphere v. MySQL 4
I suggest you use MySQL from MySQL AB. Progress Software (parent of NuSphere), is having some legal troubles. http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/02/26/1825200 Tyler - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:01 PM Subject: NuSphere v. MySQL 4 Hello, I'm not sure if this list is appropriate for this issue but I'll go ahead ask for your input anyway. We're trying to decide to choose DBMS as a backend of our web portal. The portal will take online orders and other requests from end users and this is going to be available enterprise wide (WAN) for approx. 19,000 employees. As Oracle license cost is getting too high for this purpose, I'm thinking of using MySQL instead. However, I saw two different versions here (NuSphere vs. MySQL AB) and cannot decide which one is better to use. Now, my questions are: 1. What would be your recommendation for me to use, what are the advantages / disadvantages of using NuSphere's (or MySQL AB's) products other than the different pricing here? 2. Is it true that Gemini type table from NuSphere is much better than other types (e.g. InnoDB). How about the installation and config themselves, any issues I should know about from each product? We're going to install it on a W2000 server on the same box as the web portal. 3. Is it safe enough to use MySQL v.4.0.1 instead of 3.23.49. How about the MAX 4.0.1., is this better? Although reliability is important this application is not mission critical. Sorry for the many questions, but I'm really new to MySQL and I want to feel comfortable with it before I decide to use this. I'd greatly appreciate any input from all of you. Thanks, Martin **Disclaimer** This Memo and any attachments, may be confidential and legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this in error, kindly destroy this message and notify the sender. Thank you for your assistance. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: NuSphere v. MySQL 4
Thanks for the article it is definitely helpful and narrow down my choice. Anything against the 4.0 MAX here? |-+ | | Tyler Longren | | | tyler@captainjac| | | k.com | | || | | 02/26/2002 12:24 | | | PM | | || |-+ --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: NuSphere v. MySQL 4 | --| I suggest you use MySQL from MySQL AB. Progress Software (parent of NuSphere), is having some legal troubles. http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/02/26/1825200 Tyler - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:01 PM Subject: NuSphere v. MySQL 4 Hello, I'm not sure if this list is appropriate for this issue but I'll go ahead ask for your input anyway. We're trying to decide to choose DBMS as a backend of our web portal. The portal will take online orders and other requests from end users and this is going to be available enterprise wide (WAN) for approx. 19,000 employees. As Oracle license cost is getting too high for this purpose, I'm thinking of using MySQL instead. However, I saw two different versions here (NuSphere vs. MySQL AB) and cannot decide which one is better to use. Now, my questions are: 1. What would be your recommendation for me to use, what are the advantages / disadvantages of using NuSphere's (or MySQL AB's) products other than the different pricing here? 2. Is it true that Gemini type table from NuSphere is much better than other types (e.g. InnoDB). How about the installation and config themselves, any issues I should know about from each product? We're going to install it on a W2000 server on the same box as the web portal. 3. Is it safe enough to use MySQL v.4.0.1 instead of 3.23.49. How about the MAX 4.0.1., is this better? Although reliability is important this application is not mission critical. Sorry for the many questions, but I'm really new to MySQL and I want to feel comfortable with it before I decide to use this. I'd greatly appreciate any input from all of you. Thanks, Martin **Disclaimer** This Memo and any attachments, may be confidential and legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this in error, kindly destroy this message and notify the sender. Thank you for your assistance. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Gemini Tables and NuSphere Update
I am a new MySQL user, so forgive my stupidity for asking the following question (perhaps taboo). What is the latest on NuSphere vs MySQL AB? What about Gemini. I have searched everywhere for info, but can't seem to find anything after November of last year. I have serious needs for transaction processing, but don't know which way to turn. Should I undertake using NuSphere's (supposedly stable) Gemini tables. There seems to be a lack of info on these tables now. I am trying to get a grasp on what happened to this MYSQL AB vs NuSphere deal, but all of the posts about it seem to have vanished. In addition, my first impression of Gemini was not good as I did some simulated crash test and corrupted the tables without much trouble. Perhaps it was unrelated. But it is worth further investigation. Or should I look at the InnoDB tables (which are still considered beta). Any opinions? Craig sql,query - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Gemini Tables and NuSphere Update
On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 10:17:52AM -0600, Scalper wrote: I am a new MySQL user, so forgive my stupidity for asking the following question (perhaps taboo). What is the latest on NuSphere vs MySQL AB? What about Gemini. I have searched everywhere for info, but can't seem to find anything after November of last year. They're in the midst of lawsuits and cannot discuss it. Thus, you'll see little if any public comment about it. Or should I look at the InnoDB tables (which are still considered beta). Any opinions? InnoDB is in pretty heavy use. Give it a try and see how it works for you. Jeremy -- Jeremy D. Zawodny, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Yahoo - Yahoo Finance Desk: (408) 349-7878 Fax: (408) 349-5454 Cell: (408) 685-5936 MySQL 3.23.47-max: up 14 days, processed 454,496,815 queries (372/sec. avg) - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Gemini Tables and NuSphere Update
Hi! Or should I look at the InnoDB tables (which are still considered beta). InnoDB tables are classified as gamma by Innobase Oy and MySQL AB. The text on the MySQL-Max download page is lagging behind (says beta), but to balance it, on the front page MySQL AB classifies MySQL-Max as stable :). A December quickpoll at the MySQL website showed InnoDB market share at 10 %, BDB 3 %, MyISAM 80 %, ISAM 5 %, of 3000 people who responded. Mytrix, Inc. is maybe the largest MySQL database site in the world (if someone has more than 1 TB data, please step forward), and they use InnoDB tables. See http://www.innodb.com/userstories.html. Best regards, Heikki Tuuri Innobase Oy --- InnoDB - transactions, row level locking, and foreign key support for MySQL See http://www.innodb.com, download MySQL-Max from http://www.mysql.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Nusphere is spamming me
Hi! Sandeep == Sandeep Murthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sandeep Have been spammed too by NuSphere earlier on.. so junked my earlier mail id Sandeep and switched to the present one... Sandeep let all the subscribers carry a vote to hv this spammer banned from this Sandeep list... Sandeep sandeep As you probably know, we don't allow spams to be posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (In some extreme cases we have agreed to forward spam-like information when we think the information is of general nature that we think it will benefit a large part of MySQL users, but we have been very restricted with this). The problem in this case is that the spams are not posted through the public MySQL lists, but harvested from email posted to this list and is thus almost impossible to control. I have now unsubscribed all @nusphere.com addresses from this list to make it a bit harder for NuSphere to get email addresses; Unfortunately this will not help in the long run because it's so easy to generate 'fake' email addresses for this purpose :( Thanks for all the support and the interesting links that has been forward to us regarding this thread! Regards, Monty CTO of MySQL AB PS: If anyone has some other interesting links or information that concerns NuSphere's recent behavior, please forward them to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] As it is likely that we will soon be in court regarding this, we are thankful for all information we can get! - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: Nusphere is spamming me
Thanks for taking the time to clarify the situation. It appears that my response did not however convince the judge or jury on this manner and I've been bannished from the list. Rather interesting development. Britt... -Original Message- From: Michael A. Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 5:20 PM To: Britt Johnston Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Nusphere is spamming me I would like to offer my very deepet apologies. This is what happened- About a year ago or so (maybe longer) when NuSphere was new I tried their product and did not want to use my regular e-mail address to register, so I used my username@host e-mail address on my linux box. In fact, it was a completely different box than I am using now, but the IP address was the same. I never used that e-mail address for anything. About three weeks ago I installed a clean system and then about a week ago, the Sylpheed gtk+ mail client. I was completely unaware that Sylpheed also incorporates the local system mailbox in its inbox. No one has an e-mail to my username@host address in that time. Until Nusphere did. Looking at the headers of the mail I got, though, that is the e-mail address to which the e-mail from Nusphere was sent. They did not steal my new e-mail address. This is what the header of the message says: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from pscgate.progress.com (pscgate.progress.com [192.77.186.1]) by c36988-a.ptbrg1.sfba.home.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAJMwtg28381 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:58:57 -0800 That is what happened. My deepest apologies to NuSphere and the MySQL list for this mix up. I jumped to a conclusion I should not have. On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:48:24 -0500 Britt Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] mentioned: Michael, et al: I want to assure everyone that there is no attempt to spam anyone on this email list, this email list is a valuable community service and not to be abused. Regardless, I'm sorry that anyone even has that impression. If you have any concerns after reading this please feel free to contact me directly. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Nusphere is spamming me (Interesting Stuff)
If you use MySQL I respectfully ask to to avoid NuSphere. Do not support spammers. Here Here !!! This really ticks me off, I mean really ticks me off big time. Have they no shame? Wait until you read this. For a long time now Nusphere has been treading on far too many peoples toes (who do they think they are) not only are they annoying MySQL users with their exasperating antics they are also trying to steal MySQL from the very people that actually wrote the software. Dont forget,they have registered http://www.mysql.org for some very bizzare reasons. You don't have to take my word for it either there is some info about it at http://searchdatabase.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid13_gci75904 5,00.html Also, http://www.linuxgram.com/156/ states that NuSphere, the MySQL start-up and offshoot of Progress Software, has hired itself a president. NuSphere, the MySQL start-up ??? whats that all about. http://boston.internet.com/people/article/0,1928,2041_593741,00.html has this to say; NuSphere was founded in June and is a subsidiary of Progress Software (NASDAQ:PRGS). Its products include MySQL, an open source Web development platform. Come on guys who do they think they are trying to fool. And finaly, the distributor of MySQL is complaining about the antics of Microsoft, oh dear. http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2781638,00.html?chkpt=zdnnp1tp 02 Microsoft can't beat us technically, so they've decided to strangle us in legal paperwork, said Lorne Cooper, president of NuSphere, distributor of the MySQL open source database system. So, what do you think we should do about all this. Regards Andy Woolley. - Original Message - From: Michael A. Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 11:55 PM Subject: Nusphere is spamming me This e-mail address is brand new. I used it to subscribe to the MySQL list. I sent one e-mail to the MySQL list. I used it to send two e-mails to my web hosting provider. I used it to send one e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's it! No others yet. I know my web hosting provider did not sell my e-mail address to nusphere. I know that php.net did not. They got my brand spanking new e-mail address of of the one post I made to this list. I'm sure that is a violation, it is with most mail lists. If you use MySQL I respectfully ask to to avoid NuSphere. Do not support spammers. This really ticks me off, I mean really ticks me off big time. Have they no shame? If someone at mysql.com would like the e-mail they spammed me with for further investigation, I would be happy to provide it. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Nusphere is spamming me (Interesting Stuff)
Andy Woolley wrote: For a long time now Nusphere has been treading on far too many peoples toes (who do they think they are) not only are they annoying MySQL users with their exasperating antics they are also trying to steal MySQL from the very people that actually wrote the software. Dont forget,they have registered http://www.mysql.org for some very bizzare reasons. yeah, i unsubscribed from that list, after that jillwotshername? given in the temptation of publishing a rant of her colleague(?!?!?!) a rant that is easily verified as bogus and false,im terms of chronology and matter. i believe someone from Mysql.com has posted a quite objective reply. After that i did investigate what fact's are available (wonder of the internet:) ) and i have to say, i find the Nusphere people and their apparent businessmotives a wee bit of suspicious. --By the way, i can't remember ever to subscribe to their list, but got flood by mails after visiting www.mysql.org You don't have to take my word for it either there is some info about it at http://searchdatabase.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid13_gci75904 5,00.html Also, http://www.linuxgram.com/156/ states that NuSphere, the MySQL start-up and offshoot of Progress Software, has hired itself a president. NuSphere, the MySQL start-up ??? whats that all about. http://boston.internet.com/people/article/0,1928,2041_593741,00.html has this to say; NuSphere was founded in June and is a subsidiary of Progress Software (NASDAQ:PRGS). Its products include MySQL, an open source Web development platform. Come on guys who do they think they are trying to fool. And finaly, the distributor of MySQL is complaining about the antics of Microsoft, oh dear. http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2781638,00.html?chkpt=zdnnp1tp 02 Microsoft can't beat us technically, so they've decided to strangle us in legal paperwork, said Lorne Cooper, president of NuSphere, distributor of the MySQL open source database system. So, what do you think we should do about all this. Regards Andy Woolley. shun them utterly janB - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Nusphere is spamming me (this is cheese)
It looks like this site is designed to fool a newcomer into thinking that they've stumbled onto the MySQL site -- there is a tiny mention on the splash page that 'if you are looking for MySQL AB, click here'. I'm sorry, but when I was first looking into MySQL, I had no idea what 'MySQL AB' was. I would probably have assumed that it was some kind of open-source claim-jumper. Oh wait, that's what NuSphere is. At any rate, becoming a member of NuSphere looks like a great way to get your email address harvested. Apart from that, the site doesn't offer anything that you can't get at www.mysql.com (and you can get a lot more at the latter). Nothing technically illegitimate, but shifty nonetheless. -- Erik --- Andy Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a long time now Nusphere has been treading on far too many peoples toes (who do they think they are) not only are they annoying MySQL users with their exasperating antics they are also trying to steal MySQL from the very people that actually wrote the software. Dont forget,they have registered http://www.mysql.org for some very bizzare reasons. = Microsoft e[X]tra [P]roprietary -- Is this where you really wanted to go today ? -- http://www.redhat.com/about/opinions/xp.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Nusphere is spamming me
It'd be interesting to know if A LOT of people have had this happen. If so, maybe we should apply some social pressure and see if they're see the error of their ways. Thoughts? Yeah.. I think I remember there was a Federal Trading.. thing (forgot it's name) somewhere in the USA which was interested to hear about spammers. Perhaps anyone who received spam from NuShere could drop them an e-mail.. mysql, query Bye, B. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: Nusphere is spamming me
Michael, et al: I want to assure everyone that there is no attempt to spam anyone on this email list, this email list is a valuable community service and not to be abused. Regardless, I'm sorry that anyone even has that impression. If you have any concerns after reading this please feel free to contact me directly. Any email NuSphere sends directly is to email addresses entered by individuals themselves registering at www.nusphere.com which thousands do every week. There is no other way to get a name into our database. All emails should provide clear instruction on how to be removed from the mailing list if desired. While there were some creative suggestions in the other messages in this thread, none are being used by NuSphere. In Michael's specific case the address that you received email from I believe is not the address you have registered at our site, so perhaps you are forwarding mail from another account to your new account? If you send me the specific email I can further double check our records and we can determine where it came from. NuSphere also has other marketing programs including a worldwide seminar series and as part of presenting that series we do work with well known publishers in specific geographic areas to promote the seminar and that may include both paper and electronic mail to their readers. It is possible some of you might have seen these emails as well - they are not directly from NuSphere. Given other questions, I'll provide a quick update on NuSphere. Our product line has been expanding recently and we are pleased to now provide the leading PHP IDE - NuSphere PHPEd - which won Best Developer Tool award from LinuxWorld and was popular at the recent 2001 International PHP Conference in Frankfurt. NuSphere is focused on providing a complete software platform for building applications which is based on a solid foundation of open source technology - MySQL being one part. Our most popular product is NuSphere Pro Advantage which appeals to those users who want a complete integrated platform for building and deploying applications - it might not be appealing to the experts that read this list, but people that ask you to setup a system for them probably would benefit from the approach. See the following for more info: http://nusphere.com/releases/083001.htm BTW, our seminar series is in the UK next week for more info see the following: http://nusphere.com/education/class.php?id=48 In the future, please do not hesitate to contact me directly with any concerns. Sincerely, Britt... -- D. Britton Johnston 603-578-6707 Nashua Chief Technology Officer 781-280-4954 Bedford NuSphere Corporation 781-280-4600 Main 14 Oak Park 781-280-4646 Fax Bedford, MA 01730 www.nusphere.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: Nusphere is spamming me
What a shameless plug. Given other questions, I'll provide a quick update on NuSphere. Our product line has been expanding recently and we are pleased to - Jonathan Speaking of green eggs and ham, that is the breakfast of choice for our developers - the ones who made our new product: NuSense. -Original Message- From: Britt Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 1:48 PM To: Michael A. Peters Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Nusphere is spamming me Michael, et al: I want to assure everyone that there is no attempt to spam anyone on this email list, this email list is a valuable community service and not to be abused. Regardless, I'm sorry that anyone even has that impression. If you have any concerns after reading this please feel free to contact me directly. Any email NuSphere sends directly is to email addresses entered by individuals themselves registering at www.nusphere.com which thousands do every week. There is no other way to get a name into our database. All emails should provide clear instruction on how to be removed from the mailing list if desired. While there were some creative suggestions in the other messages in this thread, none are being used by NuSphere. In Michael's specific case the address that you received email from I believe is not the address you have registered at our site, so perhaps you are forwarding mail from another account to your new account? If you send me the specific email I can further double check our records and we can determine where it came from. NuSphere also has other marketing programs including a worldwide seminar series and as part of presenting that series we do work with well known publishers in specific geographic areas to promote the seminar and that may include both paper and electronic mail to their readers. It is possible some of you might have seen these emails as well - they are not directly from NuSphere. Given other questions, I'll provide a quick update on NuSphere. Our product line has been expanding recently and we are pleased to now provide the leading PHP IDE - NuSphere PHPEd - which won Best Developer Tool award from LinuxWorld and was popular at the recent 2001 International PHP Conference in Frankfurt. NuSphere is focused on providing a complete software platform for building applications which is based on a solid foundation of open source technology - MySQL being one part. Our most popular product is NuSphere Pro Advantage which appeals to those users who want a complete integrated platform for building and deploying applications - it might not be appealing to the experts that read this list, but people that ask you to setup a system for them probably would benefit from the approach. See the following for more info: http://nusphere.com/releases/083001.htm BTW, our seminar series is in the UK next week for more info see the following: http://nusphere.com/education/class.php?id=48 In the future, please do not hesitate to contact me directly with any concerns. Sincerely, Britt... -- D. Britton Johnston 603-578-6707 Nashua Chief Technology Officer 781-280-4954 Bedford NuSphere Corporation 781-280-4600 Main 14 Oak Park 781-280-4646 Fax Bedford, MA 01730 www.nusphere.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Nusphere is spamming me
This e-mail address is brand new. I used it to subscribe to the MySQL list. I sent one e-mail to the MySQL list. I used it to send two e-mails to my web hosting provider. I used it to send one e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's it! No others yet. I know my web hosting provider did not sell my e-mail address to nusphere. I know that php.net did not. They got my brand spanking new e-mail address of of the one post I made to this list. I'm sure that is a violation, it is with most mail lists. If you use MySQL I respectfully ask to to avoid NuSphere. Do not support spammers. This really ticks me off, I mean really ticks me off big time. Have they no shame? If someone at mysql.com would like the e-mail they spammed me with for further investigation, I would be happy to provide it. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Nusphere is spamming me
I can confirm that NuSphere subscribes to mailing lists and spams its posters, as this has happened to me too, under similar circumstances. Perhaps the admins of this list should remove NuSphere. On Monday 19 November 2001 04:55 pm, Michael A. Peters wrote: This e-mail address is brand new. I used it to subscribe to the MySQL list. I sent one e-mail to the MySQL list. I used it to send two e-mails to my web hosting provider. I used it to send one e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's it! No others yet. I know my web hosting provider did not sell my e-mail address to nusphere. I know that php.net did not. They got my brand spanking new e-mail address of of the one post I made to this list. I'm sure that is a violation, it is with most mail lists. If you use MySQL I respectfully ask to to avoid NuSphere. Do not support spammers. This really ticks me off, I mean really ticks me off big time. Have they no shame? If someone at mysql.com would like the e-mail they spammed me with for further investigation, I would be happy to provide it. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Nusphere is spamming me
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:55:48PM -0800, Michael A. Peters wrote: If you use MySQL I respectfully ask to to avoid NuSphere. Do not support spammers. This really ticks me off, I mean really ticks me off big time. Have they no shame? I suspect they're getting desperate. Maybe their parent company wants to see more of a return on their investment--not that spamming will help in the long term if it just pisses people off. If someone at mysql.com would like the e-mail they spammed me with for further investigation, I would be happy to provide it. It'd be interesting to know if A LOT of people have had this happen. If so, maybe we should apply some social pressure and see if they're see the error of their ways. Thoughts? Jeremy -- Jeremy D. Zawodny, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Yahoo - Yahoo Finance Desk: (408) 349-7878 Fax: (408) 349-5454 Cell: (408) 685-5936 MySQL 3.23.41-max: up 74 days, processed 1,613,533,564 queries (249/sec. avg) - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: NuSphere final speaks out
Our customers have asked us to comment on the writing by Lorne Cooper in NuSphere's latest newsletter. I will respond to the three primary issues raised in the newsletter: (1) The June 2000 agreement between Progress and MySQL AB; (2) the mysql.org website; and (3) Gemini. For those of you interested in the details, the counterclaim we filed is a public document with the Federal Court of Massachusetts in Boston. The Interim Agreement is an exhibit to the counterclaim. First, NuSphere's president claims that for a large sum of money NuSphere acquired rights to various mysql related trademarks. On 21 June 2000, MySQL AB entered into an agreement with Progress that was an interim agreement only. Under the Interim Agreement, MySQL AB agreed to allow Progress to participate in the GPL announcement of MySQL. We agreed that Progress would be permitted limited use of the MySQL mark and three combination marks (limited to NuSphere MySQL, Enhanced MySQL, and Rocket MySQL) in starting to provide MySQL-related products and services. In exchange for this there would be monthly payments of $104,167 to MySQL AB. NuSphere made three such payments and then stopped paying. (They claim to have purchased permanent rights to 3 specific MySQL-related names for $312,501.) Because we had agreed that the Interim Agreement was intended to serve a short-term purpose only, we further agreed to work toward a final, definitive agreement concerning the business relationship. We at MySQL AB have made every effort to reach a final agreement and we have been patient with NuSphere despite numerous delays in taking matters forward and despite breaches by NuSphere of the Interim Agreement. Now NuSphere has claimed perpetual, exclusive ownership of the combination marks and others. We are confident that the evidence will show that the Interim Agreement did not give either Progress or NuSphere perpetual, exclusive ownership of any MySQL combination marks. This dispute is squarely before a federal court in Massachusetts. Second, NuSphere's president claims that mysql.org is a non-profit initiative. mysql.org is clearly not a non-profit initiative. The domain name mysql.org was registered by NuSphere and the mysql.org website is operated by NuSphere, a subsidiary of Progress, a publicly traded company. NuSphere's operation of the mysql.org website is one example of how they continue to intentionally trade on the MySQL name and goodwill. This has caused actual confusion in the marketplace and injury to MySQL AB. NuSphere continues to operate the mysql.org site for its own commercial purposes. Third, NuSphere's president states that MySQL AB claims that Gemini is a 'derivative work' of MySQL. MySQL AB does not claim that Gemini is a derivative work of MySQL. Rather, we claim that NuSphere has distributed a work based on the MySQL server without making all the underlying source code available, as required by the GPL. NuSphere's violation of the GPL automatically terminated its rights under the GPL. This means that NuSphere no longer can modify or distribute the MySQL server. Please see the Free Software Foundation website for further details on this. We invited NuSphere to settlement talks on neutral soil for as long as it would take. NuSphere responded by claiming they accepted the invitation but actually offered only to meet in a two-hour conference call where they refused to discuss the lawsuit and where no decision-making power of theirs was present. At OSCON they wanted a new meeting, but again they would not discuss the substantive issues and they had no decision maker present. Finally I would like to thank our users for your interest in this case and for the great support we have received and continue to receive. Marten Mickos CEO, MySQL AB (database,sql,query,table) - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
NuSphere final speaks out
News from NuSphere -- #8This came from the NuSphere newsletter sent today. I would like hear from MySQL AB on this issue again since nothing has been said since the two company meet. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 1:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: News from NuSphere snip News from NuSphere Tuesday, August, 14 2001 The monthly newsletter of www.nusphere.com Topics this month: a.. NuSphere Forced to Sue MySQL AB: A Note from NuSphere's President, Lorne Cooper /snip snip NuSphere Forced to Sue MySQL AB: A Note from NuSphere's President, Lorne Cooper In June of 2000 we signed a contract with MySQL AB. In exchange for a large sum of money, NuSphere acquired rights to various mysql related trademarks. In May, MySQL AB unilaterally decided the contract was no longer valid, and started proceedings to take away our trademark rights. After considerable unproductive negotiations, we were forced to sue MySQL AB, this past June, to give us back the trademark rights we had purchased. MySQL AB has filed counterclaims against us and our parent company, alleging that we don't have the rights to the trademarks, can't finance the mysql.org non-profit organization, and have broken their (GPL) software licensing rules. None of these are true. We've been quiet up to now, believing that public arguing will only make it harder to eventually resolve the problem. MySQL AB has been more vocal, and some of our customers, having only heard their side of the story, have asked us to elaborate. First, the contract specifically gives us the rights to the trademarks. The agreement does not give MySQL AB the right to unilaterally terminate the agreement. Would you buy something the seller could get back any time they wanted? Second, we can, and have, provided support and funding for the non-profit mysql.org initiative. Mysql.org is committed to improving the mysql product without being hampered by commercial considerations, just like Apache.org, Linux.org, Perl.org, PostgreSQL.org, etc. We want the best open source products, and will continue to support the open source community. Third, MySQL AB claims that Gemini is a derivative work of MySQL, and thus cannot be sold by NuSphere. Most of Gemini was licensed from Progress Software, where it has been in use for over ten years. Gemini copyrights date back to 1985. That software developed from 1985-1994 can be derivative of software first written in 1994 is ridiculous. Some people have asked, Sure you have a strong case, but you never know. What if you lose? Well, we will certainly win the lawsuit. We wouldn't be suing if we weren't sure we were in the right. If, in some miscarriage of justice, we were to lose the case, our customers and our company are not at risk. Our risk is limited to our naming of our products, our method of installing the MySQL portion of our software and some relatively small amount of money. You, our customers, have no risk at all. /snip
Re: NuSphere final speaks out
trademarks. In May, MySQL AB unilaterally decided the contract was no longer valid, and started proceedings to take away our trademark rights. After Actually, the rights would belong to MySQL AB unless the contract was drawn up horribly. past June, to give us back the trademark rights we had purchased. I would also assume that they did not purchase the TM rights, but were given some form of limited rights to use MySQL AB's rights (which MySQL AB owns). don't have the rights to the trademarks, can't finance the mysql.org non-profit organization, and have broken their (GPL) software licensing The first is probably a fun piece of contract lawyer arguing, but seems silly enough. Financing mysql.org was considered a problem, AFAICS, because it didn't clearly point out that it wasn't run by MySQL AB or acknowledge the latter's ownership of the name. First, the contract specifically gives us the rights to the trademarks Does anyone know if this contract available for viewing online anywhere? Third, MySQL AB claims that Gemini is a derivative work of MySQL, and thus cannot be sold by NuSphere. Most of Gemini was licensed from Progress Software, where it has been in use for over ten years. So Gemini in its current distribution style would be a derivative work of Progress' database software and MySQL ... it comes down to how its linked and the GPL's enforcability. If, in some miscarriage of justice, we were to lose the case, That's not a great way to get judges on your side ... ;-) company are not at risk. Our risk is limited to our naming of our products, our method of installing the MySQL portion of our software and some relatively small amount of money. You, our customers, have no risk at all. Which begs the question of how valuable this lawsuit is to NuSphere then. If all they'll gain is naming rights and an easier distribution of MySQL, where is the value? -- Michael T. Babcock, IANAL http://www.fibrespeed.net/~mbabcock/ - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: NuSphere final speaks out
My humble response to NuSphere, sent this morning to various and sundry of their email addresses. Please make your opinions known to NuSphere, it can't hurt. Dear Sirs: I believe that your decision to sue MySql AB, the creators of one of the most popular products to come from the Open Source movement, is ill advised for you, and the Open Source user community at large. I think that you will agree that MySql has a substantially larger portion of 'mind share' than Nusphere has at the moment, and that the open source community will side, by default, with MySql AB. Hence, even if you had a strong legal case, this lawsuit would be a public relation nightmare for you. Furthermore, a cursory review of the facts stated on both sites of the dispute indicates that you have a very weak case against MySql AB, and the lawsuit that you have launched appears to be no more than legal black mail to this impartial observer. Regardless of the eventual outcome of such a lawsuit, it will drain a large volume of mental energy and resources from NuSphere and MySql AB, and will inevitably be brandished by the media at large and the larger closed-source software players as undeniable proof of the failings of the Open Source Movement, thus harming your clients as well as ALL members of the Open Source community at large. I respectfully request that you immediately cease your reckless course of action and negotiate with MySql an agreement that is mutually beneficial. Sincerely, Philippe Paravicini Open Source eCommerce Developer * Their official reply: I've included our formal response to our isses with MySQL AB. Well, what a mess. It is regretable that this legal issue needs to be aired so publically that was certainly not my preference. I also will not get into a flame war, it is not in the best interest of mysql. I appreciate all the email I've received with advice and/or support - thanks. It is important that everyone realize that there is a legal agreement that both Monty and David personally signed that provides NuSphere broad rights around the use of the MySQL name. That agreement also allows NuSphere to release MySQL under the GPL license forever and print and distribute the manual. We paid significant money to Monty and David in exchange for that agreement which was central to forming NuSphere. This is public record. Please consider these facts when you try to understand NuSphere's rights and motivations - we actually worked hard to get the details in writing before we even started the company and we paid real money. It is under this agreement that we believe we have a clear right to use mysql.org. Now it appears there is a need by MySQL AB to characterize that agreement as no longer in effect - I hope you can respect the fact that NuSphere believes it is fully in effect and we wish to continue to abide by it. This is the central issue and public debate will not resolve it. As far as mysql.org goes, what NuSphere would like to see is a non-profit organization running that site - we have been consistent in this desire for over a year, but it has been opposed by Monty and David. I discussed this with Monty as recently as a few weeks ago in June and July and as always he was not interested - I appreciate he is entitled to that opinion as I am entitled to believe that it is time to take this step in the MySQL community. I invite all those who are skeptical to join mysql.org and be part of its formation. [BTW, the first community action was to get rid of the registration requirement at the site - it is no longer required for downloading files rather it is a membership registration only now.] As far as NuSphere's contribution to MySQL, it is disappointing to see our efforts discounted so quickly. At a minimum there are specific bug fixes, features, and language statements focused around transaction support in the server that are in MySQL due to NuSphere's efforts in cooperation with Monty. The Gemini table handler itself is already part of MySQL and is licensed under the GPL - go find ha_gemini.cc and you will see it we checked it in long ago in V4 and again in 3.23 when V4 was late. The Gemini component itself will be released via mysql.org as GPL as previously announced - note that Gemini itself is not a derivative of MySQL in any way - it's roots date back to long before MySQL existed. Finally independent of the rest of this. I have the highest respect for Monty and what he has done creating MySQL. I'm certain we can move beyond this and make MySQL an even stronger open source project and I encourage everyone move to a constructive dialog. -Original Message- From: Michael T. Babcock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 10:38 AM To: MySQL Subject: Re: NuSphere final speaks out trademarks. In May, MySQL AB unilaterally decided the contract was no longer valid, and started proceedings to take away our trademark rights. After Actually
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mySql.org's position (whomever they are) *** Dear Philippe: mySQL.org is a not for profit organization dedicated to promoting and further enhancing the mySQL database engine. Like all open source projects we welcome community input to help enhance the product. The MySQL AB company is a commercial entity that sells licensed versions of the mySQL database. They can do this because they own the copyright of all the source code they license and do not accept community contribution unless they can obtain the copyright from the contributor. Obviously you can see that this goes against the spirit of Open Source development, hence mySQL.org has been formed. mySQL.org is not involved in any litigation with either NuSphere or MySQL AB. While it is true that NuSphere and MySQL AB are involved in a legal battle over some sort of contract, we here at mySQL.org have chosen not to take sides or speculate on the issue. If you have questions or concerns over the NuSphere/MySQL AB lawsuit (which it appear that you do), please address your questions to either NuSphere or MySQL AB. Regards, Mike Furgal - mySQL.org - Where mySQL is your SQL. Dear Sirs: I believe that your decision to sue MySql AB, the creators of one of the most popular products to come from the Open Source movement, is ill advised for you, and the Open Source user community at large. I think that you will agree that MySql has a substantially larger portion of 'mind share' than Nusphere has at the moment, and that the open source community will side, by default, with MySql AB. Hence, even if you had a strong legal case, this lawsuit would be a public relation nightmare for you. Furthermore, a cursory review of the facts stated on both sites of the dispute indicates that you have a very weak case against MySql AB, and the lawsuit that you have launched appears to be no more than legal black mail to this impartial observer. Regardless of the eventual outcome of such a lawsuit, it will drain a large volume of mental energy and resources from NuSphere and MySql AB, and will inevitably be brandished by the media at large and the larger closed-source software players as undeniably proof of the failings of the Open Source Movement, thus harming your clients as well as ALL members of the Open Source community at large. I respectfully request that you immediately cease your reckless course of action and negotiate with MySql an agreement that is mutually beneficial. Sincerely, Philippe Paravicini Open Source eCommerce Developer - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: NuSphere final [sic] speaks out
At 01:38 PM 8/15/2001 -0400, Michael T. Babcock wrote: trademarks. In May, MySQL AB unilaterally decided the contract was no longer valid, and started proceedings to take away our trademark rights. After Actually, the rights would belong to MySQL AB unless the contract was drawn up horribly. past June, to give us back the trademark rights we had purchased. I would also assume that they did not purchase the TM rights, but were That's the problem with this whole discussion. You shouldn't be assuming anything. You haven't seen the contract; neither have I. Regardless, everyone (with few exceptions) has been slamming NuSphere based on absolutely no knowledge whatsoever. I'm very sad this is all happening. But however you may feel about NuSphere, I find it a bit unsettling that MySQL AB, as an open-source organization, would claim a trademark in the first place. From what I've seen, it looks like both sides are being equally childish. Now please, unless all contracts and legal documents are published on this list, let's all stop declaring one side or another Satan incarnate. | - | Church of the Heavenly Wood --- http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/9565/ | Our Lord and Savior --- Te Wood laudamus! - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: NuSphere final speaks out
Everyone, please: Let's not have another round of Let's all go bash NuSphere. Yes, I too, am interested in the case -- but let's have the details - and not least *facts* - from the people who are actually involved in this dispute. I think some of Justin Farnsworth wise words from July 18 bear repeating: Perhaps there are three to seven people on this list that know what is really going on, and what the true facts are behind this dispute ... ... to take very emotional sides on this issue only validates that non-productive bromide, the enemy of my friend is my enemy, something senseless in law, and thankfully so. ... Now, guys, be fair. NuSphere paid MySQL AB $325K for _something_. NuSphere just didn't come out of the woodwork and claim the goldmine with no prior contact, discussions, and understandings... Back when I was to select between MySQL and PostgreSQL DBMS years ago, part of my research involved simply joining the mailing lists / newsgroups that were used by the two camps. I very quickly came to the conclusion that on one list, most of the discussion centered around Why our DBMS is better than theirs, People using [the other system] are *s* stupid, they haven't got a clue, while at the other one, people were discussing SQL, bug reports, fixes, etc. I leave you to guess which one was which.* Please, do not let this list take the same turn. *In all fairness, I must say that I've never looked back since I decided on MySQL, and I have no idea what's going on in the PostgreSQL community today. / Carsten -- Carsten H. Pedersen keeper and maintainer of the bitbybit.dk MySQL FAQ http://www.bitbybit.dk/mysqlfaq - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: NuSphere final [sic] speaks out
[snip] I'm very sad this is all happening. But however you may feel about NuSphere, I find it a bit unsettling that MySQL AB, as an open-source organization, would claim a trademark in the first place. From what I've seen, it looks like both sides are being equally childish. I dont think there is a correlation between open source and the use (or non use) of trademarks to protect ones brand. I think it is very import for an opensource company/group/product to trademark their name. Otherwise what would stop someone from taking the source code and releasing it under the same name (im just throwing this point in there, no need for whatifs in further threads). Also, dont forget another open source project linux(tm) is trademarked to protect the name from being used in a 'bad' way. Just some ideas to think about. I dont mean to further the thread any more than it already has. ryan - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: NuSphere final [sic] speaks out
On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 04:22:47PM -0500, C. Bond wrote: I'm very sad this is all happening. But however you may feel about NuSphere, I find it a bit unsettling that MySQL AB, as an open-source organization, would claim a trademark in the first place. From what I've seen, it looks like both sides are being equally childish. There's nothing wrong with holding a trademark on a name, even if it IS tied to an open source product. Linus Torvalds holds a trademark on Linux, for example. I normally laugh when I hear about companies suing over what looks like a stupid trademark dispute. No doubt, just because it happens so often, whenever we hear about a trademark lawsuit, we're inclined to go oh brother. In the case of MySQL AB, however, it couldn't be more justified. Could you imagine what would happen if 4 other companies came along and started offering their own version of mysql, also calling it simply MySQL? That's more misinformation than I could bear. The list already receives about 5 e-mails a week from people asking when MySQL will support transactions. Another example: mysql.org used to require users to register before they could download mysql. What happens when mysql.org decides to start spamming? What happens when they resell the list to the highest bidder? It's not unreasonable to expect that users will think that The MySQL Company is spamming them. MySQL AB had nothing to do with the domain, but they would suffer on behalf of someone else's actions. -- Michael Bacarella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Staff / System Development, New York Connect.Net, Ltd. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Nusphere - mySQL dispute
Hi All - I dont have a say in a lot of things but want to just give my support to mySQL and in whatever it decides to do with this ugly sutiation. MySQL was the first Linux app that I have setup and runned sucessfully when I started working on linux and it was always a dream of mine to make a product that could equal or live to the LEGEND that mySQL has made for iteself. Monty and his crew has and will always be one of my GREATES insperation's . And I will always strive to follow in there footprints. In this I mean that thanks for all that you have done for us as a community and I hope and believe that all will turn to your favour for hours of hardwork and dedication is not allowed to be stolen because you have a BIG HEART that is not fear and not right. I just wanted to get this off my chess for as another programmer. I know how it feals if people steals your hardwork and take the credit for it. So I hope you the best of luck .. Good luck and thanks for all that you have done to all us mySQL peeps out here. Thanks Johannes Pretorius (Development Department - Promed) Tel : +27 11 263-5920 website : http://www.promed.co.za - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
NuSphere
What exactly is now the relationship between NuShpere and MYSQL/TSX. Who is working on the Gemini COde and the documentation? Ruben -- Brooklyn Linux Solutions http://www.mrbrklyn.com http://www.brooklynonline.com 1-718-382-5752 - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: ArabiaSoft and NuSphere
NuSphere is cheaper, comes with a printed MySQL manual, and IMHO, installs easier. - Original Message - From: "Frank J. Schmuck" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 6:45 AM Subject: ArabiaSoft and NuSphere Any comments on the packages from ArabiaSoft and NuSphere? Thanks Frank - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
ArabiaSoft and NuSphere
Any comments on the packages from ArabiaSoft and NuSphere? Thanks Frank - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: ArabiaSoft and NuSphere
I've found Abriasoft SQL Standard to be really really great. I've made apache/ssl/php etc. systems from source tarballs, and it takes hours, and there is all kinds of frustration and hassle. You can do the same, and it takes minutes, and really does it _almost right_. They seemed to miss the functions.js file that belongs in phpMyAdmin, but it's easily picked up and placed by grabbing a copy of the phpMyAdmin tarball from phpwizards.net. The other is you'll want to grab the MySQL updates due to security issues and bugs in the version of MySQL in the Abriasoft package. b.t.w. I was using the the RH7 Linux version. Installing Abriasoft SQL on top of a fresh RH7 install will solve you a lot of hassle due to bugs in key RH7 packages. --Dylan Shea "Frank J. Schmuck" wrote: Any comments on the packages from ArabiaSoft and NuSphere? Thanks Frank - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: ArabiaSoft and NuSphere
Dylan, Can you comment on the use of Perl vs. PHP with either of these? Thanks Frank -Original Message- From: Dylan Shea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:06 AM To: Frank J. Schmuck Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ArabiaSoft and NuSphere I've found Abriasoft SQL Standard to be really really great. I've made apache/ssl/php etc. systems from source tarballs, and it takes hours, and there is all kinds of frustration and hassle. You can do the same, and it takes minutes, and really does it _almost right_. They seemed to miss the functions.js file that belongs in phpMyAdmin, but it's easily picked up and placed by grabbing a copy of the phpMyAdmin tarball from phpwizards.net. The other is you'll want to grab the MySQL updates due to security issues and bugs in the version of MySQL in the Abriasoft package. b.t.w. I was using the the RH7 Linux version. Installing Abriasoft SQL on top of a fresh RH7 install will solve you a lot of hassle due to bugs in key RH7 packages. --Dylan Shea "Frank J. Schmuck" wrote: Any comments on the packages from ArabiaSoft and NuSphere? Thanks Frank - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
