[mythtv-users] EPG in LiveTV using SVN

2006-01-14 Thread Brad DerManouelian
I checked out the dev list and didn't see anything about this here,  
so I thought I would post here before bothering the devs.

I recently upgraded from 0.18.1 to svn as of last night.

Loading the EPG through schedule recordings takes a REALLY long time  
to load. I'd say about 15-20 seconds whereas it took about 1 second  
in 0.18.1. Scrolling to display a new listing also takes a very long  
time (several seconds). Seems like I'm having a mysql issue, but not  
sure what that issue might be. Once the record is loaded, I can  
scroll back to it without an issue and left/right scrolls are fine  
since the record is loaded for that channel.

The bigger issues is watching LiveTV and entering the EPG. It never  
shows up. It makes frontend peg one of my processors (normally runs  
VERY low since I use PVR-350's TV-out) and never displays (left it  
like this for half an hour before I realized I had tried to enter the  
EPG and it never happened). Once I choose to enter the EPG, I can't  
do anything else with front end. Won't exit. Just keeps playing  
LiveTV. So I ssh in, kill the frontend process and I get a black  
screen that I can't seem to get rid of. At that point, I reboot to  
get back to where I was.

I thought maybe it was a theme issue since I was using ProjectGrayham  
and GrayOSD which might not contain support for SVN (if additional  
support is needed?), but I had the same issues using GANT that came  
with SVN.

I have other issues, but these are the ones that don't seem to be  
solved by install the dependencies, stupid. Still sorting out what  
I need to get transcoding to work. Any tips on what needs to be  
loaded for that are appreciated!

Thanks,

Brad

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in LiveTV using SVN

2006-01-14 Thread Brad DerManouelian
On Jan 14, 2006, at 11:00 AM, Brad DerManouelian wrote:

 I checked out the dev list and didn't see anything about this here,
 so I thought I would post here before bothering the devs.

 I recently upgraded from 0.18.1 to svn as of last night.

 Loading the EPG through schedule recordings takes a REALLY long time
 to load. I'd say about 15-20 seconds whereas it took about 1 second
 in 0.18.1. Scrolling to display a new listing also takes a very long
 time (several seconds). Seems like I'm having a mysql issue, but not
 sure what that issue might be. Once the record is loaded, I can
 scroll back to it without an issue and left/right scrolls are fine
 since the record is loaded for that channel.

 The bigger issues is watching LiveTV and entering the EPG. It never
 shows up. It makes frontend peg one of my processors (normally runs
 VERY low since I use PVR-350's TV-out) and never displays (left it
 like this for half an hour before I realized I had tried to enter the
 EPG and it never happened). Once I choose to enter the EPG, I can't
 do anything else with front end. Won't exit. Just keeps playing
 LiveTV. So I ssh in, kill the frontend process and I get a black
 screen that I can't seem to get rid of. At that point, I reboot to
 get back to where I was.

 I thought maybe it was a theme issue since I was using ProjectGrayham
 and GrayOSD which might not contain support for SVN (if additional
 support is needed?), but I had the same issues using GANT that came
 with SVN.

 I have other issues, but these are the ones that don't seem to be
 solved by install the dependencies, stupid. Still sorting out what
 I need to get transcoding to work. Any tips on what needs to be
 loaded for that are appreciated!

 Thanks,

 Brad

Don't you hate it when you solve the problem almost IMMEDIATELY after  
hitting send??

I checked my logs and it couldn't find my channel icons. I copied  
them to where it was looking for them and all was well again. Sorry  
for the noise.

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in LiveTV using SVN

2006-01-14 Thread Greg Estabrooks
 Don't you hate it when you solve the problem almost IMMEDIATELY after  
 hitting send??
 
 I checked my logs and it couldn't find my channel icons. I copied  
 them to where it was looking for them and all was well again. Sorry  
 for the noise.

 Still good to know for next time someone has this problem :)

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[mythtv-users] EPG on Video Output of PVR-350

2006-01-10 Thread Brian Wood
Howdy:

I have my setup *mostly* working, my video output is going to my  
PVR-350 card and looks OK. Most onscreen graphics (like the menu from  
pressing M, the channel and program info) shows up fine on-screen.

Problem is that when I select the Program Guide The main video output  
dims, and the EPG appears on my regular LCD computer monitor.

Is it possible to get the EPG to appear on-screen with the program  
video? It would seem so since the other graphics display just fine in  
this mode..

If it matters, system is a Gentoo amd64 running MythTV 0.18.1.

Any ideas appreciated


Brian Wood
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG on Video Output of PVR-350

2006-01-10 Thread John Harvey
Where are you're menus etc.

For the 350 the OSD information is drawn directly onto the framebuffer. The
EPG however uses the Xserver to display but plays around with the
framebuffer alpha values so that you can see the X display and the video.
If your menus are appearing on your LCD monitor that would explain why this
is happening.
The way to run this is to get X running on the 350 and then run Myth so that
all the menus appear on the TV then the EPG will appear there as well.

John


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 Sent: 10 January 2006 16:46
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 Subject: [mythtv-users] EPG on Video Output of PVR-350
 
 Howdy:
 
 I have my setup *mostly* working, my video output is going to my
 PVR-350 card and looks OK. Most onscreen graphics (like the menu from
 pressing M, the channel and program info) shows up fine on-screen.
 
 Problem is that when I select the Program Guide The main video output
 dims, and the EPG appears on my regular LCD computer monitor.
 
 Is it possible to get the EPG to appear on-screen with the program
 video? It would seem so since the other graphics display just fine in
 this mode..
 
 If it matters, system is a Gentoo amd64 running MythTV 0.18.1.
 
 Any ideas appreciated
 
 
 Brian Wood
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG on Video Output of PVR-350

2006-01-10 Thread Brian Wood
Well that's what I was hoping to avoid as it means I can't use the  
machine for something else at the same time (at least in X, without  
setting up two servers, which I guess *could* be done).

Thanks.


Brian Wood
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On Jan 10, 2006, at 1:10 PM, John Harvey wrote:

 Where are you're menus etc.

 For the 350 the OSD information is drawn directly onto the  
 framebuffer. The
 EPG however uses the Xserver to display but plays around with the
 framebuffer alpha values so that you can see the X display and the  
 video.
 If your menus are appearing on your LCD monitor that would explain  
 why this
 is happening.
 The way to run this is to get X running on the 350 and then run  
 Myth so that
 all the menus appear on the TV then the EPG will appear there as well.

 John

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG on Video Output of PVR-350

2006-01-10 Thread John Harvey
I run 2 servers that way I can log in and out of the main one regardless.
Assuming that you are leaving the main x server logged in though why can't
you just add a second screen to the xserver configuration and run myth to
use the display :0.1?

John

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Wood
 Sent: 10 January 2006 20:24
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 Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] EPG on Video Output of PVR-350
 
 Well that's what I was hoping to avoid as it means I can't use the
 machine for something else at the same time (at least in X, without
 setting up two servers, which I guess *could* be done).
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Brian Wood
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 On Jan 10, 2006, at 1:10 PM, John Harvey wrote:
 
  Where are you're menus etc.
 
  For the 350 the OSD information is drawn directly onto the
  framebuffer. The
  EPG however uses the Xserver to display but plays around with the
  framebuffer alpha values so that you can see the X display and the
  video.
  If your menus are appearing on your LCD monitor that would explain
  why this
  is happening.
  The way to run this is to get X running on the 350 and then run
  Myth so that
  all the menus appear on the TV then the EPG will appear there as well.
 
  John
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG on Video Output of PVR-350

2006-01-10 Thread Brian Wood
I guess I can actually, or even run VNC and display on another machine.

Right now I'm trying to use the fbdev driver and I get:

FBDEV ioctl FBIOGET_FSCREENINFO invalid argument

I'm assuming that I should be using the fbdev driver, my 350 output  
is /dev/video17,

I'll poke around the net some more and see how to get this running on X.

Brian Wood
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On Jan 10, 2006, at 1:33 PM, John Harvey wrote:

 I run 2 servers that way I can log in and out of the main one  
 regardless.
 Assuming that you are leaving the main x server logged in though  
 why can't
 you just add a second screen to the xserver configuration and run  
 myth to
 use the display :0.1?

 John

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG on Video Output of PVR-350

2006-01-10 Thread John Harvey
I would avoid fbdev. There is very limited FB support in the 350 driver at
the moment. Just enough to get X running really.

John

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Wood
 Sent: 10 January 2006 20:49
 To: Discussion about mythtv
 Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] EPG on Video Output of PVR-350
 
 I guess I can actually, or even run VNC and display on another machine.
 
 Right now I'm trying to use the fbdev driver and I get:
 
 FBDEV ioctl FBIOGET_FSCREENINFO invalid argument
 
 I'm assuming that I should be using the fbdev driver, my 350 output
 is /dev/video17,
 
 I'll poke around the net some more and see how to get this running on X.
 
 Brian Wood
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 On Jan 10, 2006, at 1:33 PM, John Harvey wrote:
 
  I run 2 servers that way I can log in and out of the main one
  regardless.
  Assuming that you are leaving the main x server logged in though
  why can't
  you just add a second screen to the xserver configuration and run
  myth to
  use the display :0.1?
 
  John
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG Times Off

2006-01-08 Thread Kichigai Mentat

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On Jan 7, 2006, at 00.49, Joe Votour wrote:


Use the SQL query, delete from program.
Well, that happened to clear out the EPG, but the problem is that,  
while the system time is correct, the EPG times are still off by six  
hours. Any suggestions on how to fix this? Do I need to change some  
MythTV setting to adjust for the timezone difference? Or do I need to  
restart MythBackend or something?

-- Joe

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Hi. I recently attempted to fix the timezone on my
MythTV backend,
only to find out that all programs are perpetually
six hours off. I
am unable to fix my EPG timing, finding it
constantly trying to
record shows six hours earlier than they are
actually on.

To make things more annoying, I'm finding shows that
*were* scheduled
for one showing that I cannot delete after I changed
the time zone.

Is there some way to wipe *only* the EPG data so
mythfilldatabase can
refill it from scratch?

I'm using KnoppMyth R5A30.

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG Times Off

2006-01-08 Thread Kichigai Mentat

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On Jan 8, 2006, at 13.19, Kichigai Mentat wrote:


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On Jan 7, 2006, at 00.49, Joe Votour wrote:


Use the SQL query, delete from program.
Well, that happened to clear out the EPG, but the problem is that,  
while the system time is correct, the EPG times are still off by  
six hours. Any suggestions on how to fix this? Do I need to change  
some MythTV setting to adjust for the timezone difference? Or do I  
need to restart MythBackend or something?
Actually, scratch that. I managed to fix that by clearing the  
database, then downloading the show times with the UTC setting, then  
changing the time-zone back. My problem is, now, that I have a bunch  
of recordings I had scheduled for the wrong time, and I can't seem to  
fix them. I suppose I need to know how to clear the scheduled  
recording list now.

-- Joe

--- Kichigai Mentat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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Hi. I recently attempted to fix the timezone on my
MythTV backend,
only to find out that all programs are perpetually
six hours off. I
am unable to fix my EPG timing, finding it
constantly trying to
record shows six hours earlier than they are
actually on.

To make things more annoying, I'm finding shows that
*were* scheduled
for one showing that I cannot delete after I changed
the time zone.

Is there some way to wipe *only* the EPG data so
mythfilldatabase can
refill it from scratch?

I'm using KnoppMyth R5A30.

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG Times Off

2006-01-08 Thread Kichigai Mentat

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Sorry for top-posting and triple-posting, but it looks like I'm still  
wrong. It seems I've royally fouled things up now.


By clearing the program database, making sure my time-zone is set to  
UTC, and then running mythfilldatabase, then changing my time-zone  
back to CST, I am able to end up with properly timed program guide  
FOR TODAY ONLY. All other days are then set six hours off.


I am also finding myself with a long list of shows I'd like to  
record, but all the times are incorrect, so I've been forced to  
delete them. I am unable to reactivate them with the new recording  
time. I now need a way to clear them out.


I suppose it's also worth mentioning that I'm running KnoppMyth  
R5A30, and I'm also trying to find the setting to change the  
recording profiles (Live TV, High Quality, Low Quality, etc) but am  
unsuccessful so far. Can anyone help me out?


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On Jan 8, 2006, at 15.09, Kichigai Mentat wrote:


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On Jan 8, 2006, at 13.19, Kichigai Mentat wrote:


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On Jan 7, 2006, at 00.49, Joe Votour wrote:


Use the SQL query, delete from program.
Well, that happened to clear out the EPG, but the problem is that,  
while the system time is correct, the EPG times are still off by  
six hours. Any suggestions on how to fix this? Do I need to change  
some MythTV setting to adjust for the timezone difference? Or do I  
need to restart MythBackend or something?
Actually, scratch that. I managed to fix that by clearing the  
database, then downloading the show times with the UTC setting,  
then changing the time-zone back. My problem is, now, that I have a  
bunch of recordings I had scheduled for the wrong time, and I can't  
seem to fix them. I suppose I need to know how to clear the  
scheduled recording list now.

-- Joe

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Hi. I recently attempted to fix the timezone on my
MythTV backend,
only to find out that all programs are perpetually
six hours off. I
am unable to fix my EPG timing, finding it
constantly trying to
record shows six hours earlier than they are
actually on.

To make things more annoying, I'm finding shows that
*were* scheduled
for one showing that I cannot delete after I changed
the time zone.

Is there some way to wipe *only* the EPG data so
mythfilldatabase can
refill it from scratch?

I'm using KnoppMyth R5A30.

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG freeze after playing video in xine/MythVideo

2006-01-08 Thread chris
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 06:13:55PM +, Paul Faulkner wrote:
  It's because the mythfrontend window loses focus, so 
 if you're running it on a desktop then you can click to another window 
 and then back in the mythfrontend window and it will work again.

I used to have a similar problem when using mplayer from mythvideo.  
When the frontend is running there are actually three generations of 
mythfrontend in the 'ps' tree.  The external players get launched 
from the middle process, and it was common for mplayer to only accept 
keyboard input for a few seconds, after which the only way to stop it 
was to kill the xserver using ctl-alt-backspace.  I did some testing 
and discovered that if the external player sends back anything via 
stderr then the middle mythfrontend process would steal the focus.  
After that happened, even if I let mplayer go to the end of the file 
and exit on its own, the foreground mythfrontend *still* wouldn't get 
the focus.  The solution was to edit the external player command line 
in mythvideo to append   /dev/null 21 so that the middle myth 
wouldn't get any feedback and would therefore not steal the focus.

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG freeze after playing video in xine/MythVideo

2006-01-08 Thread chris
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 07:11:58PM +, Paul Faulkner wrote:
 Window managers manage window focus.   Draw conclusions from there...
 Good point - fair enough :-)

If you're looking for a minimal solution then use ratpoison.  It's a
window manager that runs everything full-screen without any frames,
widgets or mouse input.

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[mythtv-users] EPG freeze after playing video in xine/MythVideo

2006-01-07 Thread Daniel Rischar
I cannot figure out how these two are related (MythVideo/xine and the EPG), but here is my problem:Version: occured in 0.18.1 (from Gentoo portage) and the latest subversion sourcesReproducibility: Always
Steps to Reproduce:1) Start mythfrontend2) go to mythvideo and watch a video (must use xine -pfq %s command)3) Exit the movie, it does not matter how long it plays4) Switch to watching LiveTV5) bring up the program guide
6) move the selection in any directionI find that I can only move the selection once and then the EPG stops responding to my keypresses. I can still go back by pressing escape, but going into the guide again produces the same result. I can only move the selection once, but never more. The EPG works fine when I do not play a video first.
I tried to search the web, and this list for any posts relating to these problems, but could not find anything. If this has been posted about before, just point me in the right direction.-- 
Daniel RischarComputer EngineeringCase Western Reserve University[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG freeze after playing video in xine/MythVideo

2006-01-07 Thread Paul Faulkner

Daniel Rischar wrote:

I cannot figure out how these two are related (MythVideo/xine and the 
EPG), but here is my problem:


Version: occured in 0.18.1 (from Gentoo portage) and the latest 
subversion sources


Reproducibility: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1) Start mythfrontend
2) go to mythvideo and watch a video (must use xine -pfq %s command)
3) Exit the movie, it does not matter how long it plays
4) Switch to watching LiveTV
5) bring up the program guide
6) move the selection in any direction

I find that I can only move the selection once and then the EPG stops 
responding to my keypresses.  I can still go back by pressing escape, 
but going into the guide again produces the same result.  I can only 
move the selection once, but never more.  The EPG works fine when I do 
not play a video first.


I get the same problem. I've not found an actual fix for it but I do 
have a workaround. It's because the mythfrontend window loses focus, so 
if you're running it on a desktop then you can click to another window 
and then back in the mythfrontend window and it will work again.
Alternatively, after watching a video in Xine, navigate to the media 
library and go to recorded programs. Go to any recording and press 
right to bring up the list of options and you will find that you 
probably can't select any of them. Press escape and then right again and 
you should now find that the window has focus and you can select the 
options again. The EPG in Live TV will also work again now.


I tried to search the web, and this list for any posts relating to 
these problems, but could not find anything.  If this has been posted 
about before, just point me in the right direction.


--
Daniel Rischar
Computer Engineering
Case Western Reserve University
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RE: [mythtv-users] EPG freeze after playing video in xine/MythVideo

2006-01-07 Thread William
Title: Message



Your 
window is losing focus. Try setting yourwindow manager/desktopso 
that the focus follows the mouse and leave the mouse in the center of the screen 
which is its default position.

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Daniel RischarSent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:01 
  AMTo: mythtv-users@mythtv.orgSubject: [mythtv-users] EPG 
  freeze after playing video in xine/MythVideoI cannot 
  figure out how these two are related (MythVideo/xine and the EPG), but here is 
  my problem:Version: occured in 0.18.1 (from Gentoo portage) and the 
  latest subversion sourcesReproducibility: AlwaysSteps to 
  Reproduce:1) Start mythfrontend2) go to mythvideo and watch a video 
  (must use xine -pfq %s command)3) Exit the movie, it does not matter how 
  long it plays4) Switch to watching LiveTV5) bring up the program guide 
  6) move the selection in any directionI find that I can only move 
  the selection once and then the EPG stops responding to my keypresses. I 
  can still go back by pressing escape, but going into the guide again produces 
  the same result. I can only move the selection once, but never 
  more. The EPG works fine when I do not play a video first. I 
  tried to search the web, and this list for any posts relating to these 
  problems, but could not find anything. If this has been posted about 
  before, just point me in the right direction.-- Daniel 
  RischarComputer EngineeringCase Western Reserve University[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG freeze after playing video in xine/MythVideo

2006-01-07 Thread Paul Faulkner

William wrote:

Your window is losing focus. Try setting your window 
manager/desktop so that the focus follows the mouse and leave the 
mouse in the center of the screen which is its default position.


I'm having the same issue and currently issue but running mythfrontend 
without a window manager. Is the only fix to use a window manager and 
enable sloppy focus, or is there a solution without running a window 
manager?



-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Rischar
*Sent:* Saturday, January 07, 2006 11:01 AM
*To:* mythtv-users@mythtv.org
*Subject:* [mythtv-users] EPG freeze after playing video in
xine/MythVideo

I cannot figure out how these two are related (MythVideo/xine and
the EPG), but here is my problem:

Version: occured in 0.18.1 (from Gentoo portage) and the latest
subversion sources

Reproducibility: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1) Start mythfrontend
2) go to mythvideo and watch a video (must use xine -pfq %s command)
3) Exit the movie, it does not matter how long it plays
4) Switch to watching LiveTV
5) bring up the program guide
6) move the selection in any direction

I find that I can only move the selection once and then the EPG
stops responding to my keypresses.  I can still go back by
pressing escape, but going into the guide again produces the same
result.  I can only move the selection once, but never more.  The
EPG works fine when I do not play a video first.

I tried to search the web, and this list for any posts relating to
these problems, but could not find anything.  If this has been
posted about before, just point me in the right direction.

-- 
Daniel Rischar

Computer Engineering
Case Western Reserve University
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG freeze after playing video in xine/MythVideo

2006-01-07 Thread Michael T. Dean

Paul Faulkner wrote:


William wrote:

Your window is losing focus. Try setting your window manager/desktop 
so that the focus follows the mouse and leave the mouse in the center 
of the screen which is its default position.


I'm having the same issue and currently issue but running mythfrontend 
without a window manager. Is the only fix to use a window manager and 
enable sloppy focus, or is there a solution without running a window 
manager?


Window managers manage window focus.   Draw conclusions from there...

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG freeze after playing video in xine/MythVideo

2006-01-07 Thread Michael T. Dean

Daniel Rischar wrote:

I cannot figure out how these two are related (MythVideo/xine and the 
EPG), but here is my problem:


Version: occured in 0.18.1 (from Gentoo portage) and the latest 
subversion sources


Reproducibility: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1) Start mythfrontend
2) go to mythvideo and watch a video (must use xine -pfq %s command)
3) Exit the movie, it does not matter how long it plays
4) Switch to watching LiveTV
5) bring up the program guide
6) move the selection in any direction

I find that I can only move the selection once and then the EPG stops 
responding to my keypresses.  I can still go back by pressing escape, 
but going into the guide again produces the same result.  I can only 
move the selection once, but never more.  The EPG works fine when I do 
not play a video first.


I tried to search the web, and this list for any posts relating to 
these problems, but could not find anything.  If this has been posted 
about before, just point me in the right direction.


http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/82722#82722

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG freeze after playing video in xine/MythVideo

2006-01-07 Thread Paul Faulkner

Michael T. Dean wrote:


Paul Faulkner wrote:


William wrote:

Your window is losing focus. Try setting your window manager/desktop 
so that the focus follows the mouse and leave the mouse in the 
center of the screen which is its default position.



I'm having the same issue and currently issue but running 
mythfrontend without a window manager. Is the only fix to use a 
window manager and enable sloppy focus, or is there a solution 
without running a window manager?



Window managers manage window focus.   Draw conclusions from there...


Good point - fair enough :-)



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[mythtv-users] EPG Times Off

2006-01-06 Thread Kichigai Mentat

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Hi. I recently attempted to fix the timezone on my MythTV backend,  
only to find out that all programs are perpetually six hours off. I  
am unable to fix my EPG timing, finding it constantly trying to  
record shows six hours earlier than they are actually on.


To make things more annoying, I'm finding shows that *were* scheduled  
for one showing that I cannot delete after I changed the time zone.


Is there some way to wipe *only* the EPG data so mythfilldatabase can  
refill it from scratch?


I'm using KnoppMyth R5A30.

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Therefore, we can only suggest this use, not actually recomend it.

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG Times Off

2006-01-06 Thread Joe Votour
Use the SQL query, delete from program.

-- Joe

--- Kichigai Mentat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Hi. I recently attempted to fix the timezone on my
 MythTV backend,  
 only to find out that all programs are perpetually
 six hours off. I  
 am unable to fix my EPG timing, finding it
 constantly trying to  
 record shows six hours earlier than they are
 actually on.
 
 To make things more annoying, I'm finding shows that
 *were* scheduled  
 for one showing that I cannot delete after I changed
 the time zone.
 
 Is there some way to wipe *only* the EPG data so
 mythfilldatabase can  
 refill it from scratch?
 
 I'm using KnoppMyth R5A30.
 
 - 
 Duct Tape Tip No. 23:
  Tape furnace ductwork*
 *We have never actually tried this one, and have no
 idea if it works.  
 Therefore, we can only suggest this use, not
 actually recomend it.
   --The Duct Tape Book by Jim and Tim
 
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[mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

2005-12-13 Thread Matt Mossholder




Hi all,
 Two questions that have been nagging at me

 1) Is there a way to force a tuner change when the user selects a channel in the EPG that isn't available on the current tuner?

 2) Is there a way to define a single input source, but only have certain channels from the Input Source assigned to each card? I'm in the US, using Zap2It! as a data provider, and have a situation where I need to use an HD3000 card to pick up the HD stations, but want to use an analog card for everything else (freaking Comcast is encrypting all the digital channels except ETWN and Pennsylvania Cable TV Network). I can't define two data sources as Digital Cable with Zap2It!, so what would be the best way to ensure I have all the guide data? I was thinking of defining another source in the DB, and then just copying over the HD channels from the existing source and marking the originals as invisible


 Thanks!

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

2005-12-13 Thread Kevin Kuphal

Matt Mossholder wrote:



2) Is there a way to define a single input source, but only have 
certain channels from the Input Source assigned to each card? I'm in 
the US, using Zap2It! as a data provider, and have a situation where I 
need to use an HD3000 card to pick up the HD stations, but want to use 
an analog card for everything else (freaking Comcast is encrypting all 
the digital channels except ETWN and Pennsylvania Cable TV Network). I 
can't define two data sources as Digital Cable with Zap2It!, so what 
would be the best way to ensure I have all the guide data? I was 
thinking of defining another source in the DB, and then just copying  
over the HD channels from the existing source and marking the 
originals as invisible


Define your second source in zap2it with a neighboring zip code that has 
the same lineup if zap2it isn't letting you define two sources.  Should 
work fine.


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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

2005-12-13 Thread Tom Lichti

Kevin Kuphal wrote:

Matt Mossholder wrote:



2) Is there a way to define a single input source, but only have 
certain channels from the Input Source assigned to each card? I'm in 
the US, using Zap2It! as a data provider, and have a situation where 
I need to use an HD3000 card to pick up the HD stations, but want to 
use an analog card for everything else (freaking Comcast is 
encrypting all the digital channels except ETWN and Pennsylvania 
Cable TV Network). I can't define two data sources as Digital Cable 
with Zap2It!, so what would be the best way to ensure I have all the 
guide data? I was thinking of defining another source in the DB, and 
then just copying  over the HD channels from the existing source and 
marking the originals as invisible


Define your second source in zap2it with a neighboring zip code that 
has the same lineup if zap2it isn't letting you define two sources.  
Should work fine.
I have 4 tuner cards, and they all use the same zap2it source. There is 
nothing that says you can't use the same source twice, so I defined 4 
sources in Myth, with the same datadirect account info, and connected 
them via the 4 different inputs I'm using. That might get you closer to 
what you want.


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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

2005-12-13 Thread Isaac Richards
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 16:08, Tom Lichti wrote:
 Kevin Kuphal wrote:
  Matt Mossholder wrote:
  2) Is there a way to define a single input source, but only have
  certain channels from the Input Source assigned to each card? I'm in
  the US, using Zap2It! as a data provider, and have a situation where
  I need to use an HD3000 card to pick up the HD stations, but want to
  use an analog card for everything else (freaking Comcast is
  encrypting all the digital channels except ETWN and Pennsylvania
  Cable TV Network). I can't define two data sources as Digital Cable
  with Zap2It!, so what would be the best way to ensure I have all the
  guide data? I was thinking of defining another source in the DB, and
  then just copying  over the HD channels from the existing source and
  marking the originals as invisible
 
  Define your second source in zap2it with a neighboring zip code that
  has the same lineup if zap2it isn't letting you define two sources.
  Should work fine.

 I have 4 tuner cards, and they all use the same zap2it source. There is
 nothing that says you can't use the same source twice, so I defined 4
 sources in Myth, with the same datadirect account info, and connected
 them via the 4 different inputs I'm using. That might get you closer to
 what you want.

You're _supposed_ to do that, if the available channels actually match.

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

2005-12-13 Thread Tom Lichti

Isaac Richards wrote:

On Tuesday 13 December 2005 16:08, Tom Lichti wrote:
  

Kevin Kuphal wrote:


Matt Mossholder wrote:
  

2) Is there a way to define a single input source, but only have
certain channels from the Input Source assigned to each card? I'm in
the US, using Zap2It! as a data provider, and have a situation where
I need to use an HD3000 card to pick up the HD stations, but want to
use an analog card for everything else (freaking Comcast is
encrypting all the digital channels except ETWN and Pennsylvania
Cable TV Network). I can't define two data sources as Digital Cable
with Zap2It!, so what would be the best way to ensure I have all the
guide data? I was thinking of defining another source in the DB, and
then just copying  over the HD channels from the existing source and
marking the originals as invisible


Define your second source in zap2it with a neighboring zip code that
has the same lineup if zap2it isn't letting you define two sources.
Should work fine.
  

I have 4 tuner cards, and they all use the same zap2it source. There is
nothing that says you can't use the same source twice, so I defined 4
sources in Myth, with the same datadirect account info, and connected
them via the 4 different inputs I'm using. That might get you closer to
what you want.



You're _supposed_ to do that, if the available channels actually match.

Isaac
  
Good, so I did something right for a change! He should be able to then 
modify his channel listing so he only sees the available channels for 
each tuner, I would assume.


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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

2005-12-13 Thread Isaac Richards
On Tuesday 13 December 2005 16:12, Tom Lichti wrote:
 Isaac Richards wrote:
  On Tuesday 13 December 2005 16:08, Tom Lichti wrote:
  Kevin Kuphal wrote:
  Matt Mossholder wrote:
  2) Is there a way to define a single input source, but only have
  certain channels from the Input Source assigned to each card? I'm in
  the US, using Zap2It! as a data provider, and have a situation where
  I need to use an HD3000 card to pick up the HD stations, but want to
  use an analog card for everything else (freaking Comcast is
  encrypting all the digital channels except ETWN and Pennsylvania
  Cable TV Network). I can't define two data sources as Digital Cable
  with Zap2It!, so what would be the best way to ensure I have all the
  guide data? I was thinking of defining another source in the DB, and
  then just copying  over the HD channels from the existing source and
  marking the originals as invisible
 
  Define your second source in zap2it with a neighboring zip code that
  has the same lineup if zap2it isn't letting you define two sources.
  Should work fine.
 
  I have 4 tuner cards, and they all use the same zap2it source. There is
  nothing that says you can't use the same source twice, so I defined 4
  sources in Myth, with the same datadirect account info, and connected
  them via the 4 different inputs I'm using. That might get you closer to
  what you want.
 
  You're _supposed_ to do that, if the available channels actually match.
 
  Isaac

 Good, so I did something right for a change! He should be able to then
 modify his channel listing so he only sees the available channels for
 each tuner, I would assume.

Need two sources for that, as Kevin said.

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

2005-12-13 Thread Tom Lichti

Isaac Richards wrote:

On Tuesday 13 December 2005 16:12, Tom Lichti wrote:
  

Isaac Richards wrote:


On Tuesday 13 December 2005 16:08, Tom Lichti wrote:
  

Kevin Kuphal wrote:


Matt Mossholder wrote:
  

2) Is there a way to define a single input source, but only have
certain channels from the Input Source assigned to each card? I'm in
the US, using Zap2It! as a data provider, and have a situation where
I need to use an HD3000 card to pick up the HD stations, but want to
use an analog card for everything else (freaking Comcast is
encrypting all the digital channels except ETWN and Pennsylvania
Cable TV Network). I can't define two data sources as Digital Cable
with Zap2It!, so what would be the best way to ensure I have all the
guide data? I was thinking of defining another source in the DB, and
then just copying  over the HD channels from the existing source and
marking the originals as invisible


Define your second source in zap2it with a neighboring zip code that
has the same lineup if zap2it isn't letting you define two sources.
Should work fine.
  

I have 4 tuner cards, and they all use the same zap2it source. There is
nothing that says you can't use the same source twice, so I defined 4
sources in Myth, with the same datadirect account info, and connected
them via the 4 different inputs I'm using. That might get you closer to
what you want.


You're _supposed_ to do that, if the available channels actually match.

Isaac
  

Good, so I did something right for a change! He should be able to then
modify his channel listing so he only sees the available channels for
each tuner, I would assume.



Need two sources for that, as Kevin said.

Isaac
  
I'm not in front of my Myth box at the moment so I'm probably talking 
out my ass, but can't he hide the channels on one of the Myth listings? 
I know on mine, I have maybe 40 channels total in the source, so 160 
overall, and I can modify them independently as I wish. Would this not 
work for his purposes?


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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

2005-12-13 Thread Kevin Kuphal

Tom Lichti wrote:

I'm not in front of my Myth box at the moment so I'm probably talking 
out my ass, but can't he hide the channels on one of the Myth 
listings? I know on mine, I have maybe 40 channels total in the 
source, so 160 overall, and I can modify them independently as I wish. 
Would this not work for his purposes?



Source = channel list
He wants two *separate* channel lists, one for each tuner
So he needs two sources

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

2005-12-13 Thread Tom Lichti

Kevin Kuphal wrote:

Tom Lichti wrote:

I'm not in front of my Myth box at the moment so I'm probably talking 
out my ass, but can't he hide the channels on one of the Myth 
listings? I know on mine, I have maybe 40 channels total in the 
source, so 160 overall, and I can modify them independently as I 
wish. Would this not work for his purposes?



Source = channel list
He wants two *separate* channel lists, one for each tuner
So he needs two sources

Okay, I'm officially lost. I'll shut up now. :)

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

2005-12-13 Thread Matt Mossholder




On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 16:09 -0500, Isaac Richards wrote:


On Tuesday 13 December 2005 16:08, Tom Lichti wrote:

 I have 4 tuner cards, and they all use the same zap2it source. There is
 nothing that says you can't use the same source twice, so I defined 4
 sources in Myth, with the same datadirect account info, and connected
 them via the 4 different inputs I'm using. That might get you closer to
 what you want.

You're _supposed_ to do that, if the available channels actually match.

Isaac



Let me make sure I have it right... in mythtv-setup I define two separate data sources, using the same line up at Zap2It!, and then just turn off the channels that shouldn't exist within each lineup? If I'm following, that certainly sounds easier than my approach !


 --Matt


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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

2005-12-13 Thread Kevin Kuphal

Matt Mossholder wrote:


On Tue, 2005-12-13 at 16:09 -0500, Isaac Richards wrote:


On Tuesday 13 December 2005 16:08, Tom Lichti wrote:


I have 4 tuner cards, and they all use the same zap2it source. There is
nothing that says you can't use the same source twice, so I defined 4
sources in Myth, with the same datadirect account info, and connected
them via the 4 different inputs I'm using. That might get you closer to
what you want.


You're _supposed_ to do that, if the available channels actually match.

Isaac
   



Let me make sure I have it right... in mythtv-setup I define two 
separate data sources, using the same line up at Zap2It!, and then 
just turn off the channels that shouldn't exist within each lineup? If 
I'm following, that certainly sounds easier than my approach !


Create two lineups on zap2it, assign one to each card, edit channels 
appropriately for each.


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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

2005-12-13 Thread Bruce Markey

Matt Mossholder wrote:
...
Let me make sure I have it right... in mythtv-setup I define two 
separate data sources, using the same line up at Zap2It!, and then just 
turn off the channels that shouldn't exist within each lineup? If I'm 
following, that certainly sounds easier than my approach !


Possibly correct but let's clear up some terminology. At Zap2It!,
you need two of what they call lineups each with the same provider.
For each lineup, you check and uncheck the boxes for the channels
you want to have in that set of channels that you are targeting for
your inputs.

One account can have up to four lineups. You could have one lineup for
the Cable provider and one for Digital Cable provider (even though
they are the same company ;-). You can not have two lineups for Cable.
In the past, some have gotten around this by using a different zipcode
and the same provider. However, the last time I tried this it didn't
work. Worst case is that you may have to create a second Zap2It!
account for your second lineup (for your second video source) using
the same zipcode and provider.

--  bjm

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

2005-12-13 Thread Michael T. Dean

Tom Lichti wrote:

I have 4 tuner cards, and they all use the same zap2it source. There 
is nothing that says you can't use the same source twice, so I defined 
4 sources in Myth, with the same datadirect account info, and 
connected them via the 4 different inputs I'm using. That might get 
you closer to what you want.


Shouldn't you define one source in Myth and attach the same source to 
the 4 different inputs you're using?


It sounds like you're saying, There is nothing that says you can't use 
the same source twice, where you actually mean Zap2It lineup instead of 
source, so you made 4 named video sources in Myth and assigned a 
different one to each of your inputs.


However, the terminology you used is actually more correct than what it 
seems you're saying--There is nothing that says you can't use the same 
[MythTV] source twice.  Therefore, you should really define one named 
source in Myth and connect it to all your inputs.


Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG, Channel Selection, and Multiple Tuners... oh, and Data Sources too!

2005-12-13 Thread Matt Mossholder




For posterity, the way I ended up dealing with this, in the end, was that I added a Zap2It! Lineup for Digital Cable from another Comcast Head End, 
in a different Zipcode, that had the HD channels I needed on the same channel numbers. It would be nice if this could all be handled internally in Myth... maybe rather than having a Visible flag in the DB, we could have a VisibleOn row, that lists which tuners support the channel.

>From the silence on my other question (can the EPG force a tuner change when a channel not present on the current tuner is selected), I will take it that the answer is no.

 Thanks for the help, everyone!

 --Matt




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[mythtv-users] EPG missing 9pm-midnight 3day+ data

2005-11-19 Thread Steve Malenfant
I'm not sure if my zap2it source for my zip code, but it seems that
I'm always missing the 9pm-midnight guide data on the 3rd day and on.

Today is saturday, I got the full guide for saturday-sunday, but
monday+ has 9pm-midnight missing.

Is this something normal or I should change my zip code and get the
data from the nearest city zip code instead of the suburb I live in
(That's for OTA broadcast) ?

I've had problem before where shows were wrong for my zip code, but
the next city's zip code guide was OK.

Anybody has this problem?

Thanks.

Steve M.
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG missing 9pm-midnight 3day+ data

2005-11-19 Thread Bruce Markey

Steve Malenfant wrote:

I'm not sure if my zap2it source for my zip code, but it seems that
I'm always missing the 9pm-midnight guide data on the 3rd day and on.

Today is saturday, I got the full guide for saturday-sunday, but
monday+ has 9pm-midnight missing.

Is this something normal


Yes. This happens when you try to get every last bit of data but
the last day has some data for most channels but ends earlier
on others. This makes it appear that there is a full day's data
but there are holes. Use mythfilldatabase --max-days 11 so that
it doesn't grab these incomplete days and cause this problem.

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG missing 9pm-midnight 3day+ data

2005-11-19 Thread chris
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 01:17:18PM -0500, Steve Malenfant wrote:
 I'm not sure if my zap2it source for my zip code, but it seems that
 I'm always missing the 9pm-midnight guide data on the 3rd day and on.

Myth tries to get 14 days worth of data.  The 14th day is often 
incomplete because stations provide listings up to midnight in their 
own timezone.  For example, I'm in the PST zone but many of the 
stations I watch are in the EST zone so the listings stop at 9PM.  
Other stations don't provide even that much and may run out on day 13 
or early on day 14.

Each time Myth gets new listings, it looks at the database to determine 
what it already has and skips any day for which the listings are at 
least 80% (?) full, on the assumption that the remaining gaps are 
station off-air times or TBA slots.  It also automatically gets the 
next day or two so that it can catch any late schedule changes, which 
is why the problem only shows up three days away.

The easiest solution is to force mythfilldatabase to only grab 12 or 13 
days instead of 14 by changing the mythfilldatabase command in 
/etc/crond.daily/mythtv-backend from:
su mythtv -c mythfilldatabase --quiet
to:
su mythtv -c mythfilldatabase --quiet --graboptions \--days 13\
That way you are guaranteed to only get days for which a complete 
schedule exists.

Someone else on this list patched mythfilldatabase to use a higher 
cut-off percentage, but that is only practical if you track the fill 
ratios of the 13th and 14th days over a period of time, and would break 
if the lineup was changed.

Another possible solution (which I haven't tried) would be to add 
non-existing channels to your lineup to lower the percentage of 
coverage in the schedule below the threshold value.  You would want to 
only add them one at a time until the problem went away so that you 
don't end up grabbing all 14 days worth of schedule every night.

I think editing the cron task is the safest and easiest solution.

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-26 Thread Phill Edwards
 I wouldn't mind checking out that config file. I use the ninemsn grabber
 (sydney) at the moment, but wouldn't mind trying the OzTivo guide.

Here you go. Note that this is a .py file called, in my case,
tv_grab_au_tuhs.py. Also, you will need to register on
www.tvguide.org.au to get a username and password. It's free.

# This is a configure script for the tv_grab_au_tuhs XMLTV grabber.
# see: http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~willu/xmltv/tv_grab_au_tuhs.html

global channels, authinfo

# Modify the following to list the channels you wish to grab.  The 'Display'
# entry is the human readable display name (currently ignored by mythTV 0.18
# when using DVB).  The 'tuhs' entry is the channel name on the tvguide.org.au
# web site.  XMLTV ids can also be re-written by adding a 'local' entry:

channels = ({'Display': 'ABC Digital', 'tuhs': 'ABC-NSW', 'local':
'nsw.abc.gov.au'}, \
{'Display': 'ABC 2', 'tuhs': 'ABC2', 'local':
'abc2.abc.gov.au'}, \
{'Display': 'Nine Digital', 'tuhs': 'Nine-Syd',
'local': 'sydney.nine.com.au'}, \
{'Display': 'SBS Digital', 'tuhs': 'SBS-NSW', 'local':
'sydney.sbs.com.au'}, \
{'Display': 'Seven Digital', 'tuhs': 'Seven-Syd',
'local': 'sydney.seven.com.au'}, \
{'Display': 'Ten Digital', 'tuhs': 'Ten-NSW', 'local':
'sydney.ten.com.au'})

# Note: Here is an example of a re-written XMLTV ID:
#   {'Display': 'ABC Digital', 'tuhs': 'ABC-NSW',
'local': 'ABC-NSW.tvguide.org.au'}

authinfo.add_password(realm, 'minnie.tuhs.org', 'YourLogonName', 'YourPassword')


Regards,
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-25 Thread Paul Andreassen
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:21 pm, Daniel Hall wrote:
 Well actually, what I said is correct. When you say people are 'trying' to
 copyright the guide data this is not fully true, it *IS* copyrighted data,
 just because a piece of work is published online does not mean it cannot be
 copyrighted.

 Cheers,

 Daniel.


How is it that you can get guide data yet a tiny company like Microsoft can't?

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RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-25 Thread Daniel Hall
Microsoft seems to be interested in buying the guide data as opposed to
creating their own guide service from scratch (as we have). The networks
have not allowed MS to buy said data, hence no EPG for MCE from MS.

Cheers,

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Andreassen
Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 3:51 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:21 pm, Daniel Hall wrote:
 Well actually, what I said is correct. When you say people are 'trying' to
 copyright the guide data this is not fully true, it *IS* copyrighted data,
 just because a piece of work is published online does not mean it cannot
be
 copyrighted.

 Cheers,

 Daniel.


How is it that you can get guide data yet a tiny company like Microsoft
can't?

Paul
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RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-25 Thread Dean Collins
Kind of curious myself about how you are able to create from scratch and
not Microsoft?

I always assumed you had setup a sweet heart licensing deal with the
networks (or you were a partially owned consortium like Fly Buys).

Dean


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Andreassen
 Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 1:51 AM
 To: Discussion about mythtv
 Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
 
 On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:21 pm, Daniel Hall wrote:
  Well actually, what I said is correct. When you say people are
'trying'
 to
  copyright the guide data this is not fully true, it *IS* copyrighted
 data,
  just because a piece of work is published online does not mean it
cannot
 be
  copyrighted.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Daniel.
 
 
 How is it that you can get guide data yet a tiny company like
Microsoft
 can't?
 
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RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-25 Thread Daniel Hall
IceTV was started as there was no EPG in Australia. The main man behind
IceTV is Peter Vogel (one of the inventors of the Fairlight CMI). But no we
are definitely our own company. :)

I think for MS the biggest stopping point would be going to all the effort
(and cost) of setting up an EPG service from scratch just as a value added
service for MCE (sure it's pretty damn important but not really critical for
MCE).

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Collins
Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 4:54 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

Kind of curious myself about how you are able to create from scratch and
not Microsoft?

I always assumed you had setup a sweet heart licensing deal with the
networks (or you were a partially owned consortium like Fly Buys).

Dean


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Andreassen
 Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 1:51 AM
 To: Discussion about mythtv
 Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
 
 On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:21 pm, Daniel Hall wrote:
  Well actually, what I said is correct. When you say people are
'trying'
 to
  copyright the guide data this is not fully true, it *IS* copyrighted
 data,
  just because a piece of work is published online does not mean it
cannot
 be
  copyrighted.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Daniel.
 
 
 How is it that you can get guide data yet a tiny company like
Microsoft
 can't?
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-25 Thread Phill Edwards
 In Australia only the now and next information is sent via EIT as the
 stations have copyrighted the programme guide data that they use. All of the
 online guides are copyrighted with disclaimers specifically against any use
 of the data in PVR's.

 As far as I am aware there is only one legal way to get programme guide data
 in Australia and this is via us at IceTV.


I don't think that's correct. The other way is to use the OzTivo guide
data which does not have copyright issues. And it's free, unlike
IceTV's data.

Regards,
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-25 Thread Myles Eftos
 I don't think that's correct. The other way is to use the OzTivo guide
 data which does not have copyright issues. And it's free, unlike
 IceTV's data.

But how are they getting the data in the first place? Surely if the tv
stations are copyrighting the material, then OzTivo (And IceTV's for
that matter) is copyrighted as well?

Copying it out of the TV Guide doesn't constitute copyright free...
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-25 Thread Phill Edwards
 IceTV was started as there was no EPG in Australia. The main man behind
 IceTV is Peter Vogel (one of the inventors of the Fairlight CMI). But no we
 are definitely our own company. :)

 I think for MS the biggest stopping point would be going to all the effort
 (and cost) of setting up an EPG service from scratch just as a value added
 service for MCE (sure it's pretty damn important but not really critical for
 MCE).

Daniel - would you be able to tell us what information is available in
the program guide data from IceTV. I think a lot of the info in the
Aussie guides is missing compared to what folks in other countries get
- eg correct program categories (eg Movie, Current Affairs etc),
repeat, classification rating (eg PG, MA etc), subtitles, HD or SD,
programids, season etc etc. As the info is free it's understandable
that this info is missing.

Since IceTV are charging over $150/year for the data it would be nice
to know that this information is provided.

Regards,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-25 Thread Steve Hodge
On 10/25/05, Daniel Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well actually, what I said is correct. When you say people are 'trying' to
 copyright the guide data this is not fully true, it *IS* copyrighted data,
 just because a piece of work is published online does not mean it cannot be
 copyrighted.

If the situation in Oz is similar to the one in NZ then the
broadcasters are *claiming* that the guide data is copyrighted (and
copyrightable) but not everyone agrees. One of the major newspaper
owners (Fairfax) has pretty much stated that they don't believe it is,
and the situation is far from clear cut legally. See this story:
http://www.listener.co.nz/default,4797.sm

Regards,
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RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-25 Thread Dean Collins
But that doesn't explain how your data is produced outside of the
'supposed' copyright restrictions?

Cheers,
Dean


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Hall
 Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 3:01 AM
 To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
 Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
 
 IceTV was started as there was no EPG in Australia. The main man
behind
 IceTV is Peter Vogel (one of the inventors of the Fairlight CMI). But
no
 we
 are definitely our own company. :)
 
 I think for MS the biggest stopping point would be going to all the
effort
 (and cost) of setting up an EPG service from scratch just as a value
added
 service for MCE (sure it's pretty damn important but not really
critical
 for
 MCE).
 
 Daniel
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Collins
 Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 4:54 PM
 To: Discussion about mythtv
 Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
 
 Kind of curious myself about how you are able to create from scratch
and
 not Microsoft?
 
 I always assumed you had setup a sweet heart licensing deal with the
 networks (or you were a partially owned consortium like Fly Buys).
 
 Dean
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Andreassen
  Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 1:51 AM
  To: Discussion about mythtv
  Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
 
  On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:21 pm, Daniel Hall wrote:
   Well actually, what I said is correct. When you say people are
 'trying'
  to
   copyright the guide data this is not fully true, it *IS*
copyrighted
  data,
   just because a piece of work is published online does not mean it
 cannot
  be
   copyrighted.
  
   Cheers,
  
   Daniel.
  
 
  How is it that you can get guide data yet a tiny company like
 Microsoft
  can't?
 
  Paul
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-25 Thread Phill Edwards
 IceTV was started as there was no EPG in Australia. The main man behind
 IceTV is Peter Vogel (one of the inventors of the Fairlight CMI). But no we
 are definitely our own company. :)

 I think for MS the biggest stopping point would be going to all the effort
 (and cost) of setting up an EPG service from scratch just as a value added
 service for MCE (sure it's pretty damn important but not really critical for
 MCE).

Daniel - I trialled the service you sell tonight and here's some
feedback for you, and for others in the MythTV community as well.

1) When you sign up and provide an email address the web page doesn't
accept email addresses with + signs in them. Many valid email
addresses contain a + sign so this seems an odd bit of validation to
prevent people from registering with them.

2) There only seems to be program data available for 7 days which is
no different from what is already available for free.

3) Programs are not categorised correctly. For example, all movies are
marked as such by prepending the word MOVIE: to the movie name. It
would be more useful if this was recorded as the category type as
MythTV sets this field aside in the database for this type of info.

4) The perl script doesn't allow you to configure what XMLTVIDs you
want to use for each channel which is a pain if you're IDs are
something different to what the perl script assigns.

5) The web UI doesn't allow you to mark certain channels to NOT
download. Eg, I may not want the data for HD channels but it downloads
it anyway which then causes it to be uploaded into the MythTV
database, even though I don't want these channels in there.

6) The information provided generally seems to be no more than what is
already available currently for free.

7) On a more positive note, the download is very fast.

My conclusion is that I can't currently see any compelling reason to
pay over $150/year for the service as it doesn't seem to provide
anything extra than I already get for free.

Regards,
Phill
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[mythtv-users] EPG data and the program table

2005-10-25 Thread Phill Edwards
Does anyone have any docco on what the different columns in the
program table should be populated with and how htis relates to what's
in the XMLTV file? For example, I believe the users in the US get EPG
data which populates the program.category_type column with 'Movie'
which then lets other apps written for MythTV such as tvwish find
programs that are movies.

Here in Australia the EPG data is very ordinary for a number of
reasons I won't go into here. For example, we have no guide data that
allows mythfilldatabase to populate the program.category_type column.
However, if we knew what the values are supposed to go into the
program table columns then we could write scripts to do some automatic
conversions such as converting categoryMovie/category in the XML
file to category_typeMovie/category_type.

I'm just using category_type as an example. There are lots of others
such as programid, syndicatedepisodenumber, showtype, seriesid -
hopefully you get my drift. If someone could point to some docco or
provide further info on this then that would be extremely helpful for
those of us who live in EPG-challenged countries.

Regards,
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG data and the program table

2005-10-25 Thread John Pullan
On 25/10/05, Phill Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone have any docco on what the different columns in the
 program table should be populated with and how htis relates to what's
 in the XMLTV file? For example, I believe the users in the US get EPG
 data which populates the program.category_type column with 'Movie'
 which then lets other apps written for MythTV such as tvwish find
 programs that are movies.

 Here in Australia the EPG data is very ordinary for a number of
 reasons I won't go into here. For example, we have no guide data that
 allows mythfilldatabase to populate the program.category_type column.
 However, if we knew what the values are supposed to go into the
 program table columns then we could write scripts to do some automatic
 conversions such as converting categoryMovie/category in the XML
 file to category_typeMovie/category_type.

 I'm just using category_type as an example. There are lots of others
 such as programid, syndicatedepisodenumber, showtype, seriesid -
 hopefully you get my drift. If someone could point to some docco or
 provide further info on this then that would be extremely helpful for
 those of us who live in EPG-challenged countries.

 Regards,
 Phill
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http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.8

Might give you some clues. (especially the working with SQL section).
Also there's some schema doc somewhere (can't find the link) but you
could cd into docs and make devdocs

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-25 Thread William Kenworthy
How do you use the OzTivo guide in MythTV?  The two tv_grab_au scripts I
have tried so far have huge gaps, are often plain wrong and dont cover
all the available channels.  I realise its mostly not the scripts fault,
but the source material thats the problem - but what script makes the
best of whats available for Perth?

BillK

On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 18:30 +1000, Phill Edwards wrote:
  In Australia only the now and next information is sent via EIT as the
  stations have copyrighted the programme guide data that they use. All of the
  online guides are copyrighted with disclaimers specifically against any use
  of the data in PVR's.
 
  As far as I am aware there is only one legal way to get programme guide data
  in Australia and this is via us at IceTV.
 
 
 I don't think that's correct. The other way is to use the OzTivo guide
 data which does not have copyright issues. And it's free, unlike
 IceTV's data.
 
 Regards,
 Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-25 Thread Joshua King

On 26/10/05 7:40 AM, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How do you use the OzTivo guide in MythTV?

Download the tv_grab_au_tuhs script, save it to your backend, make sure it's
called tv_grab_au (this is what Myth runs). You'll then need to write a
config file for it. You should be able to do this in the mythtv-setup
program and then edit the file it creates to suit Perth.

OzTiVo's got good data (best I've used so far) for Perth, rarely any gaps.
You'll also need to register an OzTiVo account.

Links:
http://www.tvguide.org.au (guide source)
http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~willu/xmltv/tv_grab_au_tuhs.html (grabber
download)

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-25 Thread Phill Edwards
 Download the tv_grab_au_tuhs script, save it to your backend, make sure it's
 called tv_grab_au (this is what Myth runs). You'll then need to write a
 config file for it. You should be able to do this in the mythtv-setup
 program and then edit the file it creates to suit Perth.


If you need an example config file let me know and I'll send you mine.
Mine's for Sydney so you'll need to make some changes to it.

Regards,
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[mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-24 Thread Dave Oxley
I have a MythTV setup with a DVB-S and a DVB-T card. I am in Regional 
Victoria in Australia. The DVB-T is connected to Austar digital. For the 
last few weeks I have had the program guide downloading from D1 with 
tv_grab_au, but over the last few days the data from D1 has pretty much 
completely dried up and most of my channels have no data.


So a couple of questions:
1. Is there an xmltv alternative?
2. How do I go about setting up DVB-EIT and does it work in Australia?

Cheers,
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-24 Thread Phill Edwards
On 24/10/05, Dave Oxley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a MythTV setup with a DVB-S and a DVB-T card. I am in Regional
 Victoria in Australia. The DVB-T is connected to Austar digital. For the
 last few weeks I have had the program guide downloading from D1 with
 tv_grab_au, but over the last few days the data from D1 has pretty much
 completely dried up and most of my channels have no data.

 So a couple of questions:
 1. Is there an xmltv alternative?
http://immir.com/tv_grab_au or the NineMSN one. Search the archives
for heaps of stuff on these. The immir one is the best in my view.

Another alternative is to use the OzTivo database. OzTivo maintain the
program listings themselves so there's no copyright issues. They're at
http://www.tvguide.org.au/. I have a script and config all set up for
these.

More details at
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/142021?search_string=tv_grab_au%20script%20from%20this%20list.%20Anyone%20else%20had%20problems%20today;#142021

 2. How do I go about setting up DVB-EIT and does it work in Australia?

No, I don't believe it works in Oz.
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-24 Thread John Pullan
On 24/10/05, Phill Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 24/10/05, Dave Oxley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a MythTV setup with a DVB-S and a DVB-T card. I am in Regional
  Victoria in Australia. The DVB-T is connected to Austar digital. For the
snip1

  2. How do I go about setting up DVB-EIT and does it work in Australia?

 No, I don't believe it works in Oz.

Is that because
a) you don't have decent EIT information
b) we don't parse it correctly ?

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-24 Thread Paul Andreassen
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 10:53 pm, John Pullan wrote:
 On 24/10/05, Phill Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 24/10/05, Dave Oxley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I have a MythTV setup with a DVB-S and a DVB-T card. I am in Regional
   Victoria in Australia. The DVB-T is connected to Austar digital. For
   the

How do you get Austar digital over DVB-S?  I didn't know this was an option 
and I'm interested because I have Austar.


 snip1

   2. How do I go about setting up DVB-EIT and does it work in Australia?
 
  No, I don't believe it works in Oz.

 Is that because
 a) you don't have decent EIT information
 b) we don't parse it correctly ?

I haven't tried it myself but it seems that only some broadcasters transmit 
EIT (abc etc) and then only now and next information.

Paul
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-24 Thread David Whyte
On 10/24/05, Paul Andreassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I haven't tried it myself but it seems that only some broadcasters transmit
 EIT (abc etc) and then only now and next information.

 Paul

Yeah, when I asked this question, we dont get the full guide.  We
simply have channels that state what is now and next.  I don't even
think we get this info as EIT. :(

Hopefully, that will change soon...

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RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-24 Thread Daniel Hall
In Australia only the now and next information is sent via EIT as the
stations have copyrighted the programme guide data that they use. All of the
online guides are copyrighted with disclaimers specifically against any use
of the data in PVR's.

As far as I am aware there is only one legal way to get programme guide data
in Australia and this is via us at IceTV.

Cheers,

Daniel
IceTV Support Team

IceTV Pty Limited
Level 2/34-36 Chandos Street, St Leonards, NSW 2065
PO Box 698, Crows Nest, NSW 1585, Sydney, Australia 

ph: 1300 654 803
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Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 10:53 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

On 24/10/05, Phill Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 24/10/05, Dave Oxley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a MythTV setup with a DVB-S and a DVB-T card. I am in Regional
  Victoria in Australia. The DVB-T is connected to Austar digital. For the
snip1

  2. How do I go about setting up DVB-EIT and does it work in Australia?

 No, I don't believe it works in Oz.

Is that because
a) you don't have decent EIT information
b) we don't parse it correctly ?

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RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-24 Thread Dean Collins
Not entirely correct Daniel but yes you are right there are a number of
people trying to copyright program guide data as yet it hasn't been
tested in the courts.

I know from an unofficial discussion with Foxtel that for them at least
this is a low priority issue.

Cheers,
Dean



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Hall
 Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 10:45 PM
 To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
 Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
 
 In Australia only the now and next information is sent via EIT as the
 stations have copyrighted the programme guide data that they use. All
of
 the
 online guides are copyrighted with disclaimers specifically against
any
 use
 of the data in PVR's.
 
 As far as I am aware there is only one legal way to get programme
guide
 data
 in Australia and this is via us at IceTV.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Daniel
 IceTV Support Team
 
 IceTV Pty Limited
 Level 2/34-36 Chandos Street, St Leonards, NSW 2065
 PO Box 698, Crows Nest, NSW 1585, Sydney, Australia
 
 ph: 1300 654 803
 fax: 1300 654 208
 www.icetv.com.au
 
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 Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 10:53 PM
 To: Discussion about mythtv
 Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
 
 On 24/10/05, Phill Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 24/10/05, Dave Oxley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I have a MythTV setup with a DVB-S and a DVB-T card. I am in
Regional
   Victoria in Australia. The DVB-T is connected to Austar digital.
For
 the
 snip1
 
   2. How do I go about setting up DVB-EIT and does it work in
Australia?
 
  No, I don't believe it works in Oz.
 
 Is that because
 a) you don't have decent EIT information
 b) we don't parse it correctly ?
 
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RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-24 Thread Daniel Hall
Well actually, what I said is correct. When you say people are 'trying' to
copyright the guide data this is not fully true, it *IS* copyrighted data,
just because a piece of work is published online does not mean it cannot be
copyrighted.

Cheers,

Daniel.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Collins
Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 2:40 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

Not entirely correct Daniel but yes you are right there are a number of
people trying to copyright program guide data as yet it hasn't been
tested in the courts.

I know from an unofficial discussion with Foxtel that for them at least
this is a low priority issue.

Cheers,
Dean



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Hall
 Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 10:45 PM
 To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
 Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
 
 In Australia only the now and next information is sent via EIT as the
 stations have copyrighted the programme guide data that they use. All
of
 the
 online guides are copyrighted with disclaimers specifically against
any
 use
 of the data in PVR's.
 
 As far as I am aware there is only one legal way to get programme
guide
 data
 in Australia and this is via us at IceTV.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Daniel
 IceTV Support Team
 
 IceTV Pty Limited
 Level 2/34-36 Chandos Street, St Leonards, NSW 2065
 PO Box 698, Crows Nest, NSW 1585, Sydney, Australia
 
 ph: 1300 654 803
 fax: 1300 654 208
 www.icetv.com.au
 
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 Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 10:53 PM
 To: Discussion about mythtv
 Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
 
 On 24/10/05, Phill Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 24/10/05, Dave Oxley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I have a MythTV setup with a DVB-S and a DVB-T card. I am in
Regional
   Victoria in Australia. The DVB-T is connected to Austar digital.
For
 the
 snip1
 
   2. How do I go about setting up DVB-EIT and does it work in
Australia?
 
  No, I don't believe it works in Oz.
 
 Is that because
 a) you don't have decent EIT information
 b) we don't parse it correctly ?
 
 Regards
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RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?

2005-10-24 Thread Dean Collins
Ok trying to 'assert' copyright, like I said, still yet to be proven in
case law.

Cheers,
Dean


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Hall
 Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 1:21 AM
 To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
 Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
 
 Well actually, what I said is correct. When you say people are
'trying' to
 copyright the guide data this is not fully true, it *IS* copyrighted
data,
 just because a piece of work is published online does not mean it
cannot
 be
 copyrighted.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Daniel.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Collins
 Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 2:40 PM
 To: Discussion about mythtv
 Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
 
 Not entirely correct Daniel but yes you are right there are a number
of
 people trying to copyright program guide data as yet it hasn't been
 tested in the courts.
 
 I know from an unofficial discussion with Foxtel that for them at
least
 this is a low priority issue.
 
 Cheers,
 Dean
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Hall
  Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 10:45 PM
  To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
  Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
 
  In Australia only the now and next information is sent via EIT as
the
  stations have copyrighted the programme guide data that they use.
All
 of
  the
  online guides are copyrighted with disclaimers specifically against
 any
  use
  of the data in PVR's.
 
  As far as I am aware there is only one legal way to get programme
 guide
  data
  in Australia and this is via us at IceTV.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Daniel
  IceTV Support Team
 
  IceTV Pty Limited
  Level 2/34-36 Chandos Street, St Leonards, NSW 2065
  PO Box 698, Crows Nest, NSW 1585, Sydney, Australia
 
  ph: 1300 654 803
  fax: 1300 654 208
  www.icetv.com.au
 
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 information
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  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Monday, 24 October 2005 10:53 PM
  To: Discussion about mythtv
  Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] EPG in Australia?
 
  On 24/10/05, Phill Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 24/10/05, Dave Oxley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a MythTV setup with a DVB-S and a DVB-T card. I am in
 Regional
Victoria in Australia. The DVB-T is connected to Austar digital.
 For
  the
  snip1
  
2. How do I go about setting up DVB-EIT and does it work in
 Australia?
  
   No, I don't believe it works in Oz.
 
  Is that because
  a) you don't have decent EIT information
  b) we don't parse it correctly ?
 
  Regards
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG doesn't working

2005-07-05 Thread Mattia Martinello

I'm sorry, I wanted to write to dev list...

Bye,
Mattia.

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[mythtv-users] EPG resets to Channel 2

2005-07-05 Thread Benjamin Carlisle
Sometimes when I call up the EPG when watching Live TV, the channel
selection box is on Channel 2, even though I have been watching
another channel.  I have not found a pattern to when this happens
versus when it selects the currently active channel, but both
behaviors exist.

Is there logic for how the EPG first highlights a channel?  Is this
normal behavior?  It would make sense to me for the EPG to have focus
on the current channel...

I'm running current CVS from an initial Knopmyth install.
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[mythtv-users] EPG Program Guide

2005-07-03 Thread Mattia Martinello

Hi.
I'm using MythTV 0.18.1 with an Hauppauge WinTV Nova CI dvb-s card, and 
I can watch digital sat channels.

How I can get the Program Guide to use the EPG data?
At the time I can't see EPG data anymore, in the Program Guide nor in 
the now watching window.


I compiled MythTV with the following command:
./configure --enable-dvb --dvb-path=/usr/include --enable-dvb-eit

Thank you very much!
Goodbye
Mattia.

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG language confusion

2005-06-29 Thread John Pullan
On 28/06/05, Johan Heikkilä [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/29/05, John Pullan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Have you tried the prefered languages setting ?
 
  insert into settings (value, data) values ('PreferredLanguages', 'fin,eng');
  --
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 I tried. It didn't change anything. Still fetched randomly in Swedish
 and Finnish. But isn't this setting for the audio track?
 
 Johan
 
Should work for evrything. Apparently it doesn't

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG language confusion

2005-06-29 Thread Johan Heikkilä
On 6/29/05, John Pullan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 28/06/05, Johan Heikkilä [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 6/29/05, John Pullan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Have you tried the prefered languages setting ?
  
   insert into settings (value, data) values ('PreferredLanguages', 
   'fin,eng');
   --
   John
  
 
  I tried. It didn't change anything. Still fetched randomly in Swedish
  and Finnish. But isn't this setting for the audio track?
 
 Should work for evrything. Apparently it doesn't.

 --
 John


I just got a message from another MythTV user. This seems to be a
common problem in Finland and is not related just to Myth. I don't
have any standalone DVB box, that's why I didn't know that this is a
problem on those, too. Apparently the problem is on the broadcasting
side. PVRs are becoming more common now, so maybe more people notice
this problem. Sorry for bothering the list with this, although it
certainly is good to take into account when tweaking things in MythTV.

Johan
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[mythtv-users] EPG settings

2005-06-28 Thread Adrian Kladnig
Is there a way of displaying more than 5 half hour time blocks in the 
program guide?


Cheers,

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG settings

2005-06-28 Thread Phill Edwards
 Is there a way of displaying more than 5 half hour time blocks in the
 program guide?

Look in the mythfrontend setup screens under TV Settings -- Program
Guide. There is a setting for how many time blocks to display.
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG settings

2005-06-28 Thread Adrian Kladnig




Phill Edwards wrote:

  
Is there a way of displaying more than 5 half hour time blocks in the
program guide?

  
  
Look in the mythfrontend setup screens under TV Settings -- Program
Guide. There is a setting for how many time blocks to display.
  

I did that, and it would appear that 5 is the max. I was wondering if
there is an alernative way of changing this setting?




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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG language confusion

2005-06-28 Thread Antti Boman

Johan Heikkilä wrote:

I'm located in Finland and using the latest atrpms mythtv version. I
have one DVB card and I'm using the EPG. Everything works fine but the
thing that puzzles me is that sometimes the Program Guide listing is
in Finnish and sometimes in Swedish. I would like the EPG to stay in
one language only, or at least be consistent and list programs
broadcasted in Swedish in Swedish and programs broadcasted in Finnish
in Finnish.


At least my problem is xmltv grabber related. tv_grab_dvb seems to get 
the program info in both Swedish and Finnish, depending on the channel. 
The order seems to be random, and whichever language comes the last 
writes over the title and description.


I solved the problem by (not asking anyone and) making my own PHP script 
that chooses Finnish whenever there's a title or a description in 
Finnish. The script also tries to categorize movies as movies. The scrip 
is in PHP just because I've concentrated less on Perl lately.


In case you're interested, I can send it to you, along with a short 
installation instructions.


-agb
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG language confusion

2005-06-28 Thread Johan Heikkilä
On 6/28/05, Antti Boman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 At least my problem is xmltv grabber related. tv_grab_dvb seems to get
 the program info in both Swedish and Finnish, depending on the channel.
 The order seems to be random, and whichever language comes the last
 writes over the title and description.
 
 I solved the problem by (not asking anyone and) making my own PHP script
 that chooses Finnish whenever there's a title or a description in
 Finnish. The script also tries to categorize movies as movies. The scrip
 is in PHP just because I've concentrated less on Perl lately.
 
 In case you're interested, I can send it to you, along with a short
 installation instructions.
 
 -agb
 

Thanks for the offer, but I stopped using xmltv grabber a long time
ago. I am quite happy otherwise with the on-the-air EPG.

I'm still not sure if I understand how this works. At least the OTA
EPG seems to not update older data, so maybe when new data is fetched
and a channel happens to provide the other language the languages get
mixed up. But I'm not sure...

Johan
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG language confusion

2005-06-28 Thread John Pullan
Have you tried the prefered languages setting ?

insert into settings (value, data) values ('PreferredLanguages', 'fin,eng'); 



On 28/06/05, Johan Heikkilä [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/28/05, Antti Boman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  At least my problem is xmltv grabber related. tv_grab_dvb seems to get
  the program info in both Swedish and Finnish, depending on the channel.
  The order seems to be random, and whichever language comes the last
  writes over the title and description.
 
  I solved the problem by (not asking anyone and) making my own PHP script
  that chooses Finnish whenever there's a title or a description in
  Finnish. The script also tries to categorize movies as movies. The scrip
  is in PHP just because I've concentrated less on Perl lately.
 
  In case you're interested, I can send it to you, along with a short
  installation instructions.
 
  -agb
 
 
 Thanks for the offer, but I stopped using xmltv grabber a long time
 ago. I am quite happy otherwise with the on-the-air EPG.
 
 I'm still not sure if I understand how this works. At least the OTA
 EPG seems to not update older data, so maybe when new data is fetched
 and a channel happens to provide the other language the languages get
 mixed up. But I'm not sure...
 
 Johan
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG language confusion

2005-06-28 Thread Johan Heikkilä
On 6/29/05, John Pullan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have you tried the prefered languages setting ?
 
 insert into settings (value, data) values ('PreferredLanguages', 'fin,eng');
 --
 John
 

I tried. It didn't change anything. Still fetched randomly in Swedish
and Finnish. But isn't this setting for the audio track?

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[mythtv-users] EPG language confusion

2005-06-24 Thread Johan Heikkilä
Hello!

I'm located in Finland and using the latest atrpms mythtv version. I
have one DVB card and I'm using the EPG. Everything works fine but the
thing that puzzles me is that sometimes the Program Guide listing is
in Finnish and sometimes in Swedish. I would like the EPG to stay in
one language only, or at least be consistent and list programs
broadcasted in Swedish in Swedish and programs broadcasted in Finnish
in Finnish.

Currently there is no way to find out which language the program is
broadcasted in beacause the EPG has programs listed completely
randomly in both languages. This may be a different problem, though. I'm not 
sure how the standalone DVB boxes work, because I don't have any. I
think you can
choose the language to be shown in the EPG, though.

The mixing of languages in the EPG turns out like this: For instance, 
I'm recording a show broadcasted in Finnish that
sometimes comes once a day, sometimes two episodes. One day the first
episode was listed in Finnish in the EPG and the second episode of the
day in Swedish.

The smaller channels seem to stay in Finnish but the national channels
all have mixed up Finnish and Swedish randomly in the EPG.

I have my Myth set to Swedish language. I even tried changing the
system language from English to Swedish (LANG=sv_FI.UTF-8) but it
didn't matter. X locale is set to Finland Swedish.

The real problem is that I always have to have two schedules to get
every episode of a show recorded. If I mark a show that is listed in Finnish it
won't record the next episode if it is listed in Swedish. So I have to
find episodes listed in both languages and mark them to be recorded.
Then in Recorded Programs the show is listed in two places, under the
Finnish name and under the Swedish name, which is also a bit annoying.

Has anyone experienced this?

regards,
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Re: [mythtv-users] epg data and channel listing mismatch

2005-06-14 Thread Ray Lischner
On Monday 13 June 2005 09:20 pm, Joe Tsai wrote:

 I use pcHDTV 3000 card to receive the OTA contents via DVB input from
 mythtv. After finished the scan, I run mythfilldatabase to fill the
 program guide. It turns out my program guide contains two listings.
 One listing is associated with DVB scanning ( all labeled as unknown )
 and the other listing from mythfilldatabase ( with the correct program
 guide ).

I had the same problem, as have others.

If you look closely, you will see that the scanned channel number is
91 and the EPG channel number is 9_1. I think that's why
mythfilldatabase could not associate them.

Now that you have both sets of channels, I think the easiest thing to do
is to look at all the EPG channels, and write down the XMLID for each
one. Then, in mythtv-setup, select Channel Editor, and set the XMLID
for each of the scanned channels. Also, change the channel number to
match the scanned number.

Next, run mythweb, click the Setup icon, and select Channels. Delete
the EPG channels.
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Re: [mythtv-users] epg data and channel listing mismatch

2005-06-14 Thread Joe Tsai

Thanks for your reply, Ray.


If you look closely, you will see that the scanned channel number is
91 and the EPG channel number is 9_1. I think that's why
mythfilldatabase could not associate them.

 


actually the channum ( in this case 91 ) can be changed during
mythtv-setup. Unofrutnately, this will not solve the problem. It still
creates an additional entry.


Now that you have both sets of channels, I think the easiest thing to do
is to look at all the EPG channels, and write down the XMLID for each
one. Then, in mythtv-setup, select Channel Editor, and set the XMLID
for each of the scanned channels. Also, change the channel number to
match the scanned number.
 

I saw someone mentioned this work around once on some website. However, 
I am not aware that this can solve my problem since all the XMLID value 
in the mysqldump shows . Can you point me a way to obtain the correct 
XMLID?


Best regards,

tcube

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Re: [mythtv-users] epg data and channel listing mismatch

2005-06-14 Thread Stuart Morgan
On Tue 14 June 2005 16:17, Joe Tsai wrote:
 I saw someone mentioned this work around once on some website. However,
 I am not aware that this can solve my problem since all the XMLID value
 in the mysqldump shows . Can you point me a way to obtain the correct
 XMLID?

Just a small correction it is xmltvid not xmlid and it isn't a workaround but 
the way it is meant to be done.

What you are doing wrong is not associating the channels with the guide data 
grabbed from the Radiotimes site. Now I am being lazy because I won't bother 
to explain how to set this up yet. It might not be what you want anyway.

If your first email you talk about the EPG and then talk about the Radiotimes 
grabber. Well there is a common source of confusion here so I'll briefly 
explain. With DVB some channel listings are sent 'on the air' (OTA) and this 
is _generally_ referred to as the EPG (Electronic Program Guide). The 
Radiotimes grabber is an alternative to the OTA EPG, it fetches data from the 
radiotimes website instead. If you use one then usually you don't want the 
other.

The RT grabber provides slightly better but longer program descriptions, full 
reviews for films and provides 14 days data at a time. The OTA EPG provides 
just 7 days data but doesn't need the computer to be internet connected.

If you can tell me which guide source you would like to use I'll provide a 
setup guide for each one. The OTA EPG should be easier to setup.
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Re: [mythtv-users] epg data and channel listing mismatch

2005-06-14 Thread Ray Lischner
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 11:17 am, Joe Tsai wrote:

 I saw someone mentioned this work around once on some website.
 However, I am not aware that this can solve my problem since all the
 XMLID value in the mysqldump shows . Can you point me a way to
 obtain the correct XMLID?

From your original post, it looks like the xmltvid for 9_1 is 24344.
Review all the channels in the Channel Editor. The scanned ones lack an
xmltvid, and the downloaded ones have the xmltvid value.
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Re: [mythtv-users] epg data and channel listing mismatch

2005-06-14 Thread Joe Tsai

Ray, Thanks for all the help ^^  I got it working as per your direction.

tcube




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Re: [mythtv-users] epg data and channel listing mismatch

2005-06-14 Thread Joe Tsai

Thanks for clearify that, Stuart. I got it working now ^^

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[mythtv-users] epg data and channel listing mismatch

2005-06-13 Thread Joe Tsai

hi everyone,

I have a question regarding the epg data , please help me out.

I use pcHDTV 3000 card to receive the OTA contents via DVB input from 
mythtv. After finished the scan, I run mythfilldatabase to fill the 
program guide. It turns out my program guide contains two listings. One 
listing is associated with DVB scanning ( all labeled as unknown ) and 
the other listing from mythfilldatabase ( with the correct program guide 
). I cant tun to the channel that I obtained from mythfilldatabase since 
it is not really corresponding to the DVB scanned frequency and I cant 
use tv recording since I dont have a working program guide.


I looked into the mysql dump and found out there exists two entrys of 
the same channel in channel table, take KQED as an example :


-- the one from dvb scan in mythtv --
INSERT INTO channel (chanid, channum, freqid, sourceid, callsign, name, 
icon, finetune, videofilters, xmltvid, recpriority, contrast, 
brightness, colour, hue, tvformat, commfree, visible, outputfilters, 
useonairguide, mplexid, serviceid, atscsrcid) VALUES 
(1007,'91',NULL,1,'KQED-HD','KQED-HD','none',NULL,'','',0,32768,32768,32768,32768,'Default',0,1,'',1,7,3,1);


-- the one from mythfilldatabase --
INSERT INTO channel (chanid, channum, freqid, sourceid, callsign, name, 
icon, finetune, videofilters, xmltvid, recpriority, contrast, 
brightness, colour, hue, tvformat, commfree, visible, outputfilters, 
useonairguide, mplexid, serviceid, atscsrcid) VALUES 
(1043,'9_1','30-1',1,'KQEDDT','KQEDDT 
(KQED-DT)','none',NULL,'','24344',0,32768,32768,32768,32768,'Default',0,1,'',0,NULL,NULL,NULL);


I tried googling, icring, and experimenting for like 2+ weeks and still 
cant find a work around to this probelm. please help me out if you can.


Thanks in advance for any help

tcube

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG Forgets Current Channel For Some Channels

2005-06-06 Thread Rob Rosenfeld

Top posting rearranged.


--- Rob Rosenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


Second try . . . any ideas?

When watching live TV, normal behavior is that when
I enter the 
program guide, it will open with the channel I am
watching 
selected.  But, when I'm on some channels, the
current channel 
isn't selected and the guide starts on channel 1. 
It's always the 
same channels that have this problem, but I can't
figure out what 
they have in common.  I went into mythtv-setup and
deleted channel 
info and reconfigured it, but no change.


Any ideas on how to get the EPG to always open with
the current 
channel highlighted?


   


Joe Votour wrote:

I've seen this as well, but I suspect that it's not
channel related, but rather tuner related.  I have a
multi-tuner system and seem to see this anytime I
haven't watched something on the tuner yet.


 




I'm not sure about that.  I only have one tuner and it always happens on 
the same channels.  It doesn't only happen the first time I watch a 
channel either. 


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[mythtv-users] EPG not working

2005-06-06 Thread Mattia Martinello

Hi.
I'm using MythTV 0.18.1 with an Hauppauge WinTV Nova CI dvb-s card, and 
I can watch digital sat channels.
I realized that EPG data doesn't work in any way, and I can't access to 
them.
If I tune a channel, I don't see anything in the now watching window 
(the small window in the bottom of the screen).


I compiled MythTV with the following command:
./configure --enable-dvb --dvb-path=/usr/include --enable-dvb-eit

What's the problem?
Could you help me, please?

Thank you very much!
Goodbye
Mattia.

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG not working

2005-06-06 Thread Rudy Zijlstra

Mattia Martinello wrote:


Hi.
I'm using MythTV 0.18.1 with an Hauppauge WinTV Nova CI dvb-s card, 
and I can watch digital sat channels.
I realized that EPG data doesn't work in any way, and I can't access 
to them.



From which satellite?

Rudy
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG not working

2005-06-06 Thread Mattia Martinello

Rudy Zijlstra ha scritto:


From which satellite?


Hotbird (1-6).

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG not working

2005-06-06 Thread Rudy Zijlstra

Mattia Martinello wrote:


Rudy Zijlstra ha scritto:


From which satellite?



Hotbird (1-6).

_


Hm, the following works on Astra, don't know for hotbird.

In SIParser.cpp search for the following snippet:

// Descriptor 0x4A - Linkage - NIT
void SIParser::ParseDescriptorLinkage(uint8_t* buffer,int 
size,NetworkObject n)

{
   (void) size;

   n.LinkageTransportID = buffer[2]  8 | buffer[3];
   n.LinkageNetworkID = buffer[4]  8 | buffer[5];
   n.LinkageServiceID = buffer[6]  8 | buffer[7];
   n.LinkageType = buffer[8];
   n.LinkagePresent = 1;

   //The following was found to break EIT guide for
   // Kristian Kalweit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   //if (n.LinkageType == 4)
   //{
   //PrivateTypes.GuideOnSingleTransport = true;
   //PrivateTypes.GuideTransportID = n.LinkageTransportID;
   //}
}

---

As you see, i have the complete last if statement commented out. On 
Astra this makes things work (at least for german and austrian channels. 
I have not yet tested the others, will do after i have a CI module). May 
well be the same on hotbird.


Good Luck,

Rudy

P.S. Tell us if it works.
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG Program Guide

2005-06-05 Thread Stuart Morgan
On Sun 5 June 2005 12:04, Mattia Martinello wrote:
 Esa Nurmi ha scritto:
  EPG seems to work fine with DVB, with the version 0.18.1

 Ok, but if I go to Mythweb (http://192.168.1.15), I don't see any
 program in the channels list...
 All channels has not any program...
 I wish to see the EPG as the default MythTV's program guide, in MythTV's
 recording stuffs and in Mythweb too...

In mythtv-setup/mythtvsetup in the channels section have you ticked Use on 
air guide* in each channel properties page? (* Or the Italian translation)

Have you tuned to any channels to allow the data to download?
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG Program Guide

2005-06-05 Thread Mattia Martinello

Stuart Morgan ha scritto:

In mythtv-setup/mythtvsetup in the channels section have you ticked Use on 
air guide* in each channel properties page? (* Or the Italian translation)
 


I tried this, but I can't even see anything in the Program Guide...


Have you tuned to any channels to allow the data to download?
 


Yes, but I think MythTV can't access to EPG data at all...
I don't see anything in the now watching window when I select a channel.

I compiled MythTV with the following command:
./configure --enable-dvb --dvb-path=/usr/include --enable-dvb-eit

Must I recompile without --enable-dvb-eit or this isn't a problem?

Thank you very much!
Bye
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[mythtv-users] EPG Forgets Current Channel For Some Channels

2005-06-05 Thread Rob Rosenfeld

Second try . . . any ideas?

When watching live TV, normal behavior is that when I enter the 
program guide, it will open with the channel I am watching 
selected.  But, when I'm on some channels, the current channel 
isn't selected and the guide starts on channel 1.  It's always the 
same channels that have this problem, but I can't figure out what 
they have in common.  I went into mythtv-setup and deleted channel 
info and reconfigured it, but no change.


Any ideas on how to get the EPG to always open with the current 
channel highlighted?


Thanks,

Rob

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG Forgets Current Channel For Some Channels

2005-06-05 Thread Joe Votour
I've seen this as well, but I suspect that it's not
channel related, but rather tuner related.  I have a
multi-tuner system and seem to see this anytime I
haven't watched something on the tuner yet.

-- Joe

--- Rob Rosenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Second try . . . any ideas?
 
 When watching live TV, normal behavior is that when
 I enter the 
 program guide, it will open with the channel I am
 watching 
 selected.  But, when I'm on some channels, the
 current channel 
 isn't selected and the guide starts on channel 1. 
 It's always the 
 same channels that have this problem, but I can't
 figure out what 
 they have in common.  I went into mythtv-setup and
 deleted channel 
 info and reconfigured it, but no change.
 
 Any ideas on how to get the EPG to always open with
 the current 
 channel highlighted?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Rob
 
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[mythtv-users] EPG Program Guide

2005-06-03 Thread Mattia Martinello

Hi,
is it possible to get the program guide (in MythTV and Mythweb) working 
with EPG?
I don't want to use xmltv to get program informations, I'd like to use 
EPG which is automatically available...


Thank you very much!
Bye
Mattia.

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG Program Guide

2005-06-03 Thread Esa Nurmi


is it possible to get the program guide (in MythTV and Mythweb) 
working with EPG?
I don't want to use xmltv to get program informations, I'd like to use 
EPG which is automatically available...



EPG seems to work fine with DVB, with the version 0.18.1

Br,
Esa

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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG data from DVB(-T)

2005-05-31 Thread Adam Egger
It's very high on the todo list. 
Just join #dvb and you'll meet all the DVB devs there.

On 5/30/05, Dirk Aust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That might be right, but nevertheless, scanning around all DVB-EGP enabled
 channels would also be a good idea, isn't it? 
 
 Am Sonntag, 29. Mai 2005 17:41 schrieb Stuart Morgan:
  On Sun 29 May 2005 15:19, Derek Scollon wrote:
Since the EPG data capture finally works also in Germany
  
   Does anyone know if this data is transmitted in the UK?
 
  Yes it is transmitted. It is certainly useful but inferior to the data
  available from the Radiotimes website.
 
  The radiotimes covers 14 days vs 7 days for the broadcast EPG. The
  broadcast EPG also lacks ratings/reviews for films and category data.
  Overall the program descriptions available from the Radiotimes xmltv
  grabber are better too.
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG data from DVB(-T)

2005-05-31 Thread Stuart Morgan
On Mon 30 May 2005 20:34, Dirk Aust wrote:
 That might be right, but nevertheless, scanning around all DVB-EGP enabled
 channels would also be a good idea, isn't it?

Yes it is still a good idea. I may yet switch to DVB-EPG data on one of my 
backends - especially if they improve the quality of the information 
available in the UK.
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG data from DVB(-T)

2005-05-31 Thread Stuart Morgan
On Tue 31 May 2005 10:09, Adam Egger wrote:
 It's very high on the todo list.
 Just join #dvb and you'll meet all the DVB devs there.

Which network?
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPG data from DVB(-T)

2005-05-31 Thread James Stembridge
On 5/30/05, Dirk Aust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That might be right, but nevertheless, scanning around all DVB-EGP enabled
 channels would also be a good idea, isn't it?

In the UK at least there's no need, afaik the full EPG is broadcast on
all 6 multiplexes.

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