Re: automating login details

2009-04-17 Thread Richard Porter
On 16 Apr 2009 Rob Kendrick wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:00:16 +0100
> Jim Nagel  wrote:

>> is there any way of automatically providing my username and password
>> when i go to a certain website i need to use frequently?

> It depends.  If the site is using basic auth (ie, the browser pops up a
> dialogue box asking you for a username and password) you can often pass
> this information in the URL;

> http://username:passw...@www.foo.bar.com/

> If the user name and password is collected via a form on the web page,
> and the site doesn't have a "remember me" tick box, you'll need to use
> a browser that can automatically fill in forms and remember passwords
> for you.

For sites that use login forms I've set up mini-forms on my local home 
page. All the fields are hidden except for the 'submit' button which 
has its value changed to indicate the site. Values are inserted for 
the username and password, and any relative url is changed to 
absolute. This seems to work well for many sites, but some need two 
attempts presumably because the site expects to find a cookie set by 
the login page.

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Re: automating login details

2009-04-17 Thread Chris Newman
In article <3591db4c50@nails.ukonline.co.uk>, Jim Nagel
 wrote:
> is there any way of automatically providing my username and password when
> i go to a certain website i need to use frequently?

> i have got as far as saving a URL file so that at least i don't have to
> type that part every time.  perhaps there's a standard way (which i should
> know but don't) of including the username and password in the URL file?

I Use one of the many macro progs that are available for RiscOS. !Tags by
Thomas Baldwin is good. Can't find a current link for that but I can send you
a copy.It's freeware. !Makro - David Thomas & !TextAid - Alan Wrigley will do
the same. Again, if you can't find 'em, I have copies. You can keep one of
these apps on your desktop with the usernames & passwords. Then it's a quick
few clicks & a scroll to insert what you need. If security is a problem, keep
em in an encrypted file on the desktop then one password gets all. Stephen
Sloan's !Encrypt will do that & there are probably others. Hope this helps,

-- 
Chris



Re: automating login details

2009-04-17 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 16 Apr 2009  Rob Kendrick  wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:39:19 +0100
> Dr Peter Young  wrote:

>>> There was a hack floating about to automatically fill in forms for
>>> browsers under RISC OS, but I don't recall its name.
>> 
>> Not a hack, but Kevin Wells's FFiler (the links given in the Help
>> file and on the software database seem to be dead, and Google hasn't
>> been my friend) will keep data and transfer it into NetSurf's icons.
>> However, maybe you don't want to keep passwords in it ...

> Given NetSurf doesn't use icons for forms, I think this classes as a
> hack as it must be "typing" it in and hoping form tab ordering hasn't
> changed :)

That's too deep for me, but NetSurf's forms, if I've got the term 
right, will accept output from FFiler, and will also accept selections 
dragged and dropped from at least StrongED and OPro; I do this 
regularly. Useful feature.

With best wishes,

Peter.

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Re: automating login details

2009-04-17 Thread Jim Nagel
Rob Kendrick  wrote on 16 Apr :

> On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:00:16 +0100
> Jim Nagel  wrote:

>> is there any way of automatically providing my username and password
>> when i go to a certain website i need to use frequently?

> It depends.  If the site is using basic auth (ie, the browser pops up a
> dialogue box asking you for a username and password) you can often pass
> this information in the URL;  [oi!  you mean COLON!]
> http://username:passw...@www.foo.bar.com/


yes!  that does it!  thanks, Rob.

the website in question is the controlpanel at Neil Spellings'
Purleyhosting for one of my domains.  i'm pleased that now i can
simply doubleclick this URL file and go directly to the relevant page, 
several levels into the controlpanel.

this makes a pain-free method to quickly define a unique email alias
at my domain. (i always do this when registering with any online
service or mailinglist, so i can abandon the alias if it starts
getting spam.)

i had always presumed i had to resort to an American browser on the
laptop to do the chore, but it's great to have it set up as a mere
doubleclick in Netsurf now.

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Re: automating login details

2009-04-17 Thread Kevin Wells
In message <20090416131619.0ab71...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>
  Rob Kendrick  wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:39:19 +0100
>Dr Peter Young  wrote:
>
>> > There was a hack floating about to automatically fill in forms for
>> > browsers under RISC OS, but I don't recall its name.  
>> 
>> Not a hack, but Kevin Wells's FFiler (the links given in the Help
>> file and on the software database seem to be dead, and Google hasn't
>> been my friend) will keep data and transfer it into NetSurf's icons. 
>> However, maybe you don't want to keep passwords in it ...
>
>Given NetSurf doesn't use icons for forms, I think this classes as a
>hack as it must be "typing" it in and hoping form tab ordering hasn't
>changed :)

What it does is you have the cursor in the form tab or icon location and
hit the button and it then puts the information from the button to the
form tab or icon.

The only browser it does not work with is Oregano2.
>
>B.
>


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Re: automating login details

2009-04-17 Thread Kevin Wells
In message <7624df4c50.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
  Dr Peter Young  wrote:

>On 16 Apr 2009  Rob Kendrick  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:00:16 +0100
>> Jim Nagel  wrote:
>
>>> is there any way of automatically providing my username and password
>>> when i go to a certain website i need to use frequently?
>
>> It depends.  If the site is using basic auth (ie, the browser pops up a
>> dialogue box asking you for a username and password) you can often pass
>> this information in the URL;
>
>> http://username:passw...@www.foo.bar.com/
>
>> If the user name and password is collected via a form on the web page,
>> and the site doesn't have a "remember me" tick box, you'll need to use
>> a browser that can automatically fill in forms and remember passwords
>> for you.
>
>> There was a hack floating about to automatically fill in forms for
>> browsers under RISC OS, but I don't recall its name.
>
>Not a hack, but Kevin Wells's FFiler (the links given in the Help file 
>and on the software database seem to be dead, and Google hasn't been 
>my friend) will keep data and transfer it into NetSurf's icons. 
>However, maybe you don't want to keep passwords in it ...

I had to change the web space as the topcities one became unreliable to
change things. 

http://riscos.kevsoft.co.uk/


>
>With best wishes,
>
>Peter.
>


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Re: automating login details

2009-04-17 Thread Jim Nagel
Rob Kendrick  wrote on 16 Apr :

> On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:00:16 +0100
> Jim Nagel  wrote:

>> is there any way of automatically providing my username and password
>> when i go to a certain website i need to use frequently?

> It depends.  If the site is using basic auth (ie, the browser pops up a
> dialogue box asking you for a username and password) you can often pass
> this information in the URL;  [oi!  you mean COLON!]
> http://username:passw...@www.foo.bar.com/


yes!  that does it!  thanks, Rob.

the website in question is the controlpanel at Neil Spellings'
Purleyhosting for one of my domains.  i'm pleased that now i can
simply doubleclick this URL file and go directly to the relevant page, 
several levels into the controlpanel.

this makes a pain-free method to quickly define a unique email alias
at my domain. (i always do this when registering with any online
service or mailinglist, so i can abandon the alias if it starts
getting spam.)

i had always presumed i had to resort to an American browser on the
laptop to do the chore, but it's great to have it set up as a mere
doubleclick in Netsurf now.

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>>> no need to reply my entire message back to me ;=]
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Re: automating login details

2009-04-16 Thread Clive Bonsall

Dr Peter Young wrote:

On 16 Apr 2009  Rob Kendrick  wrote:

  

On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:00:16 +0100
Jim Nagel  wrote:



  

is there any way of automatically providing my username and password
when i go to a certain website i need to use frequently?
  


  

It depends.  If the site is using basic auth (ie, the browser pops up a
dialogue box asking you for a username and password) you can often pass
this information in the URL;



  

http://username:passw...@www.foo.bar.com/



  

If the user name and password is collected via a form on the web page,
and the site doesn't have a "remember me" tick box, you'll need to use
a browser that can automatically fill in forms and remember passwords
for you.



  

There was a hack floating about to automatically fill in forms for
browsers under RISC OS, but I don't recall its name.



Not a hack, but Kevin Wells's FFiler (the links given in the Help file 
and on the software database seem to be dead, and Google hasn't been 
my friend) will keep data and transfer it into NetSurf's icons. 
However, maybe you don't want to keep passwords in it ...

Perhaps here ... http://riscos.kevsoft.co.uk/

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Re: automating login details

2009-04-16 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:39:19 +0100
Dr Peter Young  wrote:

> > There was a hack floating about to automatically fill in forms for
> > browsers under RISC OS, but I don't recall its name.  
> 
> Not a hack, but Kevin Wells's FFiler (the links given in the Help
> file and on the software database seem to be dead, and Google hasn't
> been my friend) will keep data and transfer it into NetSurf's icons. 
> However, maybe you don't want to keep passwords in it ...

Given NetSurf doesn't use icons for forms, I think this classes as a
hack as it must be "typing" it in and hoping form tab ordering hasn't
changed :)

B.



Re: automating login details

2009-04-16 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 16 Apr 2009  Rob Kendrick  wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:00:16 +0100
> Jim Nagel  wrote:

>> is there any way of automatically providing my username and password
>> when i go to a certain website i need to use frequently?

> It depends.  If the site is using basic auth (ie, the browser pops up a
> dialogue box asking you for a username and password) you can often pass
> this information in the URL;

> http://username:passw...@www.foo.bar.com/

> If the user name and password is collected via a form on the web page,
> and the site doesn't have a "remember me" tick box, you'll need to use
> a browser that can automatically fill in forms and remember passwords
> for you.

> There was a hack floating about to automatically fill in forms for
> browsers under RISC OS, but I don't recall its name.

Not a hack, but Kevin Wells's FFiler (the links given in the Help file 
and on the software database seem to be dead, and Google hasn't been 
my friend) will keep data and transfer it into NetSurf's icons. 
However, maybe you don't want to keep passwords in it ...

With best wishes,

Peter.

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Anne\/ ____\  England.
and / /  \ | | |\ | /  _\  http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
family /  \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk



Re: automating login details

2009-04-16 Thread Tim Hill
In article <3591db4c50@nails.ukonline.co.uk>, Jim Nagel
 wrote:
> is there any way of automatically providing my username and password
> when i go to a certain website i need to use frequently?

> i have got as far as saving a URL file so that at least i don't have
> to type that part every time.  perhaps there's a standard way (which i
> should know but don't) of including the username and password in the
> URL file?

It depends entirely on the site in question. A look at the HTML of the
signing in page may give some clues - please email the page or the URL
and I'll take a look.

-- 
Tim Hill,

www.timil.com




Re: automating login details

2009-04-16 Thread John Williams
In article <3591db4c50@nails.ukonline.co.uk>,
   Jim Nagel  wrote:

> is there any way of automatically providing my username and password 
> when i go to a certain website i need to use frequently?

> i have got as far as saving a URL file so that at least i don't have 
> to type that part every time.  perhaps there's a standard way (which i 
> should know but don't) of including the username and password in the 
> URL file?

You need to look at the HTML source of the log-in page and see what the
names of the variables used are.

Then you can often add something like:

?name=Jim&pass=nagelpass

to the URL.

There is sometimes a hidden variable required as well, so add that with
another ampersand.

But, obviously, I've just made these variable names up. You need to dissect
the form on the page.

I do this a lot!

John

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Re: automating login details

2009-04-16 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:00:16 +0100
Jim Nagel  wrote:

> is there any way of automatically providing my username and password 
> when i go to a certain website i need to use frequently?

It depends.  If the site is using basic auth (ie, the browser pops up a
dialogue box asking you for a username and password) you can often pass
this information in the URL;

http://username:passw...@www.foo.bar.com/

If the user name and password is collected via a form on the web page,
and the site doesn't have a "remember me" tick box, you'll need to use
a browser that can automatically fill in forms and remember passwords
for you.

There was a hack floating about to automatically fill in forms for
browsers under RISC OS, but I don't recall its name.

B.



automating login details

2009-04-16 Thread Jim Nagel
is there any way of automatically providing my username and password 
when i go to a certain website i need to use frequently?

i have got as far as saving a URL file so that at least i don't have 
to type that part every time.  perhaps there's a standard way (which i 
should know but don't) of including the username and password in the 
URL file?

thanks.

-- 
>>> no need to reply my entire message back to me ;=]
Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
   Abbey Press   32 Norbins Rd(01458) 83 3603
   Glastonbury   BA6 9JG pocket 0797 415 3861
>> before emailing large files (>1Mb), please ask me for FTP details