Re: [newbie] rebuild src.rpms with athlon optimizations
well I tried to rebuild a package that I had successfully built before with these commands: rpm --rebuild --target=athlon ftp-0.17-4mdk.src.rpm rpm --rebuild --target=k7 ftp-0.17-4mdk.src.rpm and neither one of them worked. Here's an out put of where it failed on every one of the packages. Generating MCONFIG... + %make /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.87677: fg: no job control Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.87677 (%build) hmmm. Anybody else have any ideas on this? Mandrake guys? Todd? Civilme? Abe --- David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed that the version of gcc included with mdk 8.0 offers some athlon specific optimizations. Really?? That is so cool. I'd really like to know if this was something that was part of gcc to begin with or was something mandrake added on. Currently I am running gcc 2.95.3 and no athlon specific stuff. Currently my system rebuilds src.rpms and source from tar balls as i686. How can I tell the compiler to use athlon optimizations? I am not sure if 'rpm --rebuild something.src.rpm --target=686 selects good optimization options or not. If I just compile without giving any options with gcc, it'll still build a 686 rpm because the compiler is hosted on a 686 platform. Anyhow, what happens if you type in 'gcc -O2 -march=athlon' or 'gcc -O2 -march=k7' ? Do those options get recognized? If it can't support those options, apparently you can get pretty close by compiling for a Pentium Pro and adding a few extra flags. I can't recall all the flags that are suggested; they'd take up a whole line or two by themselves. I seem to recall they were documented somewhere on athlonlinux.org. Please let me know what version of gcc is in Mandrake 8.0; I'd be interested in verifying whether it really knows about the Athlon or not. Abe David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- = Jesus saves. Allah forgives, Cthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. -- See my digital art at: http://www.foramenmagnum.net/images.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] rebuild src.rpms with athlon optimizations
wow man. Your as interested in this as I am! Cool. I'm running mandrake 8.0 and it reports that I have this gcc installed. 2.96-0.48mdk Everything goes fine with the builds until I get that error message then it barfs. I can see the build querying the compiler to see if it supports athlon optimizations. It gets a Yes answer and proceeds to start building the package and then it dies. I've got an /athlon directory in /usr/src/RPM/RPMS weird that you don't. Is your kernel compiled with athlon optimizations? Mine had the /athlon directory before I rebuilt the kernel though. Hopefully Todd or civilme from mandrake will see this thread and offer us some of their immense wisdom ;-) Abe --- David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rpm --rebuild --target=athlon ftp-0.17-4mdk.src.rpm rpm --rebuild --target=k7 ftp-0.17-4mdk.src.rpm OK drop the '--target=athlon part and see what happens. Do you get the same output as before? AFAIK Mandrake 8 uses a higher version of RPM than does 7.2. That may be a factor, too. I don't know if the '--target=athlon is supported in the RPM in Mandrake 7.2. And I'm still curious as to what commands that transmits to gcc and the Makefile(s). I seem to remember there's a way (maybe rpm -bt or rpm -bi) to build with a specific spec file. But you have to put the .src.rpm in a special place (/usr/src/RPM) and there are several directories underneath there for various things like source rpms, binary rpms, spec files, sources, etc. Underneath RPMS are several directories that correspond, I would think, to --target (i386,i486,i586) but on my system K7 or Athlon are not listed. after looking at an 8.0 mirror and downloading a sample small source rpm to experiment with (I chose gnu bc) just doing an 'rpm --rebuild --target=athlon appears to simply pass the 'athlon' part to the gcc so it compiles with the -mcpu=athlon flag. That's the part I wasn't clear about. I guess experimentation is the key :). Consequenty, that build fails in the .configure script run as part as the rebuild, saying my C compiler can't generate executables. That's to be expected, since the compiler flag doesn't work. Of course, when I substitute --target=i686, it works, and adds flags in the Makefile that (probably) make sense for Pentium Pro systems. /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.87677: fg: no job control Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.87677 (%build) Strange. What shell are you running? fg is bash / sh job control, it should be built in. Why a script would want to play with that, I'm not sure. By the way, I just checked ftp.gnu.org today - the latest gcc is still 2.95.3, which is what I'm running. Abe David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- = Jesus saves. Allah forgives, Cthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. -- See my digital art at: http://www.foramenmagnum.net/images.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] rebuild src.rpms with athlon optimizations
rpm --rebuild --target=athlon ftp-0.17-4mdk.src.rpm rpm --rebuild --target=k7 ftp-0.17-4mdk.src.rpm OK drop the '--target=athlon part and see what happens. Do you get the same output as before? AFAIK Mandrake 8 uses a higher version of RPM than does 7.2. That may be a factor, too. I don't know if the '--target=athlon is supported in the RPM in Mandrake 7.2. And I'm still curious as to what commands that transmits to gcc and the Makefile(s). I seem to remember there's a way (maybe rpm -bt or rpm -bi) to build with a specific spec file. But you have to put the .src.rpm in a special place (/usr/src/RPM) and there are several directories underneath there for various things like source rpms, binary rpms, spec files, sources, etc. Underneath RPMS are several directories that correspond, I would think, to --target (i386,i486,i586) but on my system K7 or Athlon are not listed. after looking at an 8.0 mirror and downloading a sample small source rpm to experiment with (I chose gnu bc) just doing an 'rpm --rebuild --target=athlon appears to simply pass the 'athlon' part to the gcc so it compiles with the -mcpu=athlon flag. That's the part I wasn't clear about. I guess experimentation is the key :). Consequenty, that build fails in the .configure script run as part as the rebuild, saying my C compiler can't generate executables. That's to be expected, since the compiler flag doesn't work. Of course, when I substitute --target=i686, it works, and adds flags in the Makefile that (probably) make sense for Pentium Pro systems. /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.87677: fg: no job control Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.87677 (%build) Strange. What shell are you running? fg is bash / sh job control, it should be built in. Why a script would want to play with that, I'm not sure. By the way, I just checked ftp.gnu.org today - the latest gcc is still 2.95.3, which is what I'm running. Abe David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
RE: [newbie] rebuild src.rpms with athlon optimizations
Rpm knows nothing about the K7 and the Athlon. You need to compile it for the i586 but pass Athlon switches to the compiler via RPM... Read the MAN... -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of abram olson Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 2:15 AM To: David E. Fox; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] rebuild src.rpms with athlon optimizations well I tried to rebuild a package that I had successfully built before with these commands: rpm --rebuild --target=athlon ftp-0.17-4mdk.src.rpm rpm --rebuild --target=k7 ftp-0.17-4mdk.src.rpm and neither one of them worked. Here's an out put of where it failed on every one of the packages. Generating MCONFIG... + %make /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.87677: fg: no job control Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.87677 (%build) hmmm. Anybody else have any ideas on this? Mandrake guys? Todd? Civilme? Abe --- David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed that the version of gcc included with mdk 8.0 offers some athlon specific optimizations. Really?? That is so cool. I'd really like to know if this was something that was part of gcc to begin with or was something mandrake added on. Currently I am running gcc 2.95.3 and no athlon specific stuff. Currently my system rebuilds src.rpms and source from tar balls as i686. How can I tell the compiler to use athlon optimizations? I am not sure if 'rpm --rebuild something.src.rpm --target=686 selects good optimization options or not. If I just compile without giving any options with gcc, it'll still build a 686 rpm because the compiler is hosted on a 686 platform. Anyhow, what happens if you type in 'gcc -O2 -march=athlon' or 'gcc -O2 -march=k7' ? Do those options get recognized? If it can't support those options, apparently you can get pretty close by compiling for a Pentium Pro and adding a few extra flags. I can't recall all the flags that are suggested; they'd take up a whole line or two by themselves. I seem to recall they were documented somewhere on athlonlinux.org. Please let me know what version of gcc is in Mandrake 8.0; I'd be interested in verifying whether it really knows about the Athlon or not. Abe David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- = Jesus saves. Allah forgives, Cthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. -- See my digital art at: http://www.foramenmagnum.net/images.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
RE: [newbie] rebuild src.rpms with athlon optimizations
if RPM can't build athlon packages then why do I have an athlon directory in /usr/src/RPM/RPMS ? The rebuild process doesn't die until: Generating MCONFIG... which happens after it has asked the compiler if it can build athlon packages and it has answered yes. I read through the man and a whole crap load of other documentation before I even asked my question. I view this list as a LAST RESORT not a starting place. My system currently defaults to building i686 packages. I know that there is a config file somewhere that I can edit to make this work I just can't remember which one ;-) I also figured I'd start this conversation since I know that a lot of people use amd processors and it's nice for everybody to get as much bang for their buck as they can *right now*. Thanks for the RTFM answer dude. Next time read the thread before you post. Abe --- Jose M. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rpm knows nothing about the K7 and the Athlon. You need to compile it for the i586 but pass Athlon switches to the compiler via RPM... Read the MAN... -JMS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of abram olson Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 2:15 AM To: David E. Fox; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] rebuild src.rpms with athlon optimizations well I tried to rebuild a package that I had successfully built before with these commands: rpm --rebuild --target=athlon ftp-0.17-4mdk.src.rpm rpm --rebuild --target=k7 ftp-0.17-4mdk.src.rpm and neither one of them worked. Here's an out put of where it failed on every one of the packages. Generating MCONFIG... + %make /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.87677: fg: no job control Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.87677 (%build) hmmm. Anybody else have any ideas on this? Mandrake guys? Todd? Civilme? Abe --- David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed that the version of gcc included with mdk 8.0 offers some athlon specific optimizations. Really?? That is so cool. I'd really like to know if this was something that was part of gcc to begin with or was something mandrake added on. Currently I am running gcc 2.95.3 and no athlon specific stuff. Currently my system rebuilds src.rpms and source from tar balls as i686. How can I tell the compiler to use athlon optimizations? I am not sure if 'rpm --rebuild something.src.rpm --target=686 selects good optimization options or not. If I just compile without giving any options with gcc, it'll still build a 686 rpm because the compiler is hosted on a 686 platform. Anyhow, what happens if you type in 'gcc -O2 -march=athlon' or 'gcc -O2 -march=k7' ? Do those options get recognized? If it can't support those options, apparently you can get pretty close by compiling for a Pentium Pro and adding a few extra flags. I can't recall all the flags that are suggested; they'd take up a whole line or two by themselves. I seem to recall they were documented somewhere on athlonlinux.org. Please let me know what version of gcc is in Mandrake 8.0; I'd be interested in verifying whether it really knows about the Athlon or not. Abe David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- = Jesus saves. Allah forgives, Cthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. -- See my digital art at: http://www.foramenmagnum.net/images.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ = Jesus saves. Allah forgives, Cthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. -- See my digital art at: http://www.foramenmagnum.net/images.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
[newbie] IP Flood possible trigger
I noticed my IP Flood starts after I print something and will continue until i reboot. Here is an excerpt from the log file. Does anyone else see their PMFirewall IP flood start similarly? Runs about a 20 second interval Apr 27 11:13:00 dhcp-195-6 DrakX: trying to load en_US.po from ./po.cz2 Apr 27 11:13:01 dhcp-195-6 DrakX: trying to load en.po from ./po.cz2 Apr 27 11:13:04 dhcp-195-6 DrakX: running: ifup lo Apr 27 11:13:04 dhcp-195-6 DrakX: running: /etc/rc.d/init.d/cups start Apr 27 11:13:04 dhcp-195-6 cups: cupsd startup succeeded Apr 27 11:13:14 dhcp-195-6 kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [SPP,PS2] Apr 27 11:13:14 dhcp-195-6 kernel: parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 720C Apr 27 11:13:14 dhcp-195-6 kernel: lp0: using parport0 (polling). Apr 27 11:13:14 dhcp-195-6 modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-4 Apr 27 11:13:17 dhcp-195-6 last message repeated 67 times Apr 27 11:13:17 dhcp-195-6 modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-180 Apr 27 11:13:17 dhcp-195-6 last message repeated 16 times Apr 27 11:13:18 dhcp-195-6 kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 209.122.154.23:631 255.255.255.255:631 L=112 S=0x00 I=10537 F=0x T=64 (#30) Apr 27 11:13:22 dhcp-195-6 DrakX: running: packdrake -x /lib/modules.cz2 /tmp parport_pc.o parport_probe.o lp.o Apr 27 11:13:22 dhcp-195-6 DrakX: missing module parport_pc Apr 27 11:13:22 dhcp-195-6 DrakX: missing module parport_probe Apr 27 11:13:22 dhcp-195-6 DrakX: missing module lp Apr 27 11:13:22 dhcp-195-6 DrakX: running: rmmod parport_probe Apr 27 11:13:36 dhcp-195-6 DrakX: running: lpadmin -p lp -E -v parallel:/dev/lp0 -m HP/DeskJet_722C-pnm2ppa.ppd Apr 27 11:13:36 dhcp-195-6 kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 209.122.154.23:631 255.255.255.255:631 L=112 S=0x00 I=10729 F=0x T=64 (#30) Apr 27 11:13:58 dhcp-195-6 kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 209.122.154.23:631 255.255.255.255:631 L=112 S=0x00 I=10924 F=0x T=64 (#30) Apr 27 15:13:59 dhcp-195-6 pnm2ppa[9348]: Starting print job Apr 27 11:14:00 dhcp-195-6 CROND[9350]: (root) CMD ( /usr/share/msec/promisc_check.sh) Apr 27 15:14:01 dhcp-195-6 pnm2ppa[9348]: Printing page 1 (PixMap) Apr 27 11:14:29 dhcp-195-6 kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 209.122.154.23:631 255.255.255.255:631 L=112 S=0x00 I=4 F=0x T=64 (#30) Apr 27 15:14:51 dhcp-195-6 pnm2ppa[9348]: Finished rendering page 1 Apr 27 15:14:51 dhcp-195-6 pnm2ppa[9348]: Printing page 2 (PixMap) Apr 27 11:15:00 dhcp-195-6 kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 209.122.154.23:631 255.255.255.255:631 L=112 S=0x00 I=11157 F=0x T=64 (#30) Apr 27 11:15:00 dhcp-195-6 CROND[9374]: (root) CMD ( /usr/share/msec/promisc_check.sh) Apr 27 11:15:31 dhcp-195-6 kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 209.122.154.23:631 255.255.255.255:631 L=112 S=0x00 I=11160 F=0x T=64 (#30) Apr 27 15:15:51 dhcp-195-6 pnm2ppa[9348]: Finished rendering page 2 Apr 27 15:15:51 dhcp-195-6 pnm2ppa[9348]: Printing page 3 (PixMap) Apr 27 11:16:00 dhcp-195-6 CROND[9412]: (root) CMD ( /usr/share/msec/promisc_check.sh) Apr 27 11:16:02 dhcp-195-6 kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 209.122.154.23:631 255.255.255.255:631 L=112 S=0x00 I=11161 F=0x T=64 (#30) Apr 27 15:16:10 dhcp-195-6 pnm2ppa[9348]: Finished rendering page 3 Apr 27 15:16:10 dhcp-195-6 pnm2ppa[9348]: Print job completed successfully. Apr 27 11:16:11 dhcp-195-6 kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 209.122.154.23:631 255.255.255.255:631 L=112 S=0x00 I=11162 F=0x T=64 (#30) Apr 27 11:16:42 dhcp-195-6 kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 209.122.154.23:631 255.255.255.255:631 L=112 S=0x00 I=11163 F=0x T=64 (#30) Apr 27 11:17:00 dhcp-195-6 CROND[9417]: (root) CMD ( /usr/share/msec/promisc_check.sh) PROTO = 17.Apr 27 11:17:13 dhcp-195-6 kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 209.122.154.23:631 255.255.255.255:631 L=112 S=0x00 I=11164 F=0x T=64 (#30) Apr 27 11:17:44 dhcp-195-6 kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 209.122.154.23:631 255.255.255.255:631 L=112 S=0x00 I=11165 F=0x T=64 (#30) Apr 27 11:18:00 dhcp-195-6 CROND[9422]: (root) CMD ( /usr/share/msec/promisc_check.sh) Apr 27 11:18:15 dhcp-195-6 kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 209.122.154.23:631 255.255.255.255:631 L=112 S=0x00 I=11166 F=0x T=64 (#30) Apr 27 11:18:46 dhcp-195-6 kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=17 209.122.154.23:631 255.255.255.255:631 L=112 S=0x00 I=11167 F=0x T=64 (#30) Apr 27 11:19:00 dhcp-195-6 CROND[9427]: (root) CMD ( /usr/share/msec/promisc_check.sh)
Re: [newbie] bloated
On Friday 27 April 2001 22:28, OOzy Pal wrote about [newbie] bloated that ... Hello I hear the word bloated alot what does it mean in Linux terms bloated (adj.) - (1) taking up too many CPU cycles, too much memory and too much hard drive space; using two bytes where one would do; adding features to a program that no-one ever asked for, just so that you can fool users into upgrading; (2) a general epithet that is normally applied to any and all Microsoft products. Reason for this: see (1) g -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC
[newbie] Fwd: Re: [expert] newbie list not runing for me
Appart from the expert list, I am (or was?) in the newbie list. 1 month ago suddently newbie messages stoped to arrive. I thought that perhaps I was down Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) -- Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) --- -- Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain)
Re: [newbie] Au secours, je suis dans la M..... (was Superblock adresses ?)
I'm in deep S. I have been working on the computer of Her Who Must Be Obeyed, and when re-booting, had a problem: No system; had a closer look, I had mixed up the primary and secondary IDE cables. I unmixed them, rebooted, and now the partition with her home dir wont mount, she's loosing three weeks email and work and my name is Mud ;-( The error message I get is e2fsck: Bad magic number in superblock while trying to open /dev/hdc Then it advises me to try e2fsck -b 8193 device I have tried it, with various block numbers, but to no avail. Any suggestion before I'm sent to spend the night in the doghouse ? -The partition shows up correctly with fdisk -l /dev/hdc -The HD is still configured in the BIOS as it always has been I'm at a loss to understand what happened; anyone who can explain/help will earn my eternal gratitude for at least ten minute. TIA, Ron the Frog, in disgrace on the banks of the Paraguay River. -- There has been of late an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about. --- http://personales.conexion.com.py/~rolgiati ---
[newbie] how to view URLs from Licq using Konqueror?
I've finally gotten the hang of using Licq as a substitute for ICQ and I'm rather impressed with it (especially once I'd compiled KDE support in - I wonder why Mandrake doesn't include it by default?). But when viewing received URLs, Licq passes the URL over to Netscape via the viewurl-netscape.sh script. It seems like if I try to view another received URL, Netscape must first be closed for the URL to be opened - otherwise nothing happens. My question is - how does one get Licq to pass along URLs to Konqueror instead? Thanks in advance,
Re: [newbie] rebuild src.rpms with athlon optimizations
I'm running mandrake 8.0 and it reports that I have this gcc installed. 2.96-0.48mdk That would account for mine (2.95.3) being different :). But isn't 2.96 the same broken compiler that Redhat packaged with their ill-fated 7.0 product? I don't see 2.96 at GNU. I suppose I could get the gcc source rpms from Mandrake 8.0 and rebuild them here see what happens -- I can always reinstall the gcc 2.95.3 source if something breaks. FWIW when I tried building an athlon-aware compiler a few weeks ago, I didn't get a working compiler - I took gcc 2.95.2 sources plus a pgcc patch plus an athlon patch, following the directions on www.athlonlinux.org. What resulted was a compiler that was seriously broken, and which didn't support Athlon flags even when they were plainly visible in the compiler's specs file. I posted these findings around the end of March on the expert list and other places but have had no substantive replies. I feel I'm one of the very few that have tried this :(. . Everything goes fine with the builds until I get that error message then it barfs. I can see the build querying the compiler to see if it supports athlon That is a good sigh. I don't know why you are getting the build problems though. I suspect it's a problem with the new RPM in 8.0. Do other builds work? I've got an /athlon directory in /usr/src/RPM/RPMS weird that you don't. Is your kernel compiled with athlon optimizations? Mine had the /athlon directory It's not really a kernel issue, although my kernel is compiled for K7. That's not really optimized for Athlon though; more simplistic things in the code that streamline it somewhat for that processor. Abe David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
[newbie] Opening ports on a firewall
I have a Mandrake box serving as a NAT/Firewall box. My IPCHAINS ruleset is as follows: default incoming policy of REJECT remote interface, any source, going to WAN interface address is valid outgoing policy of reject local interface, any source, going to LAN is valid forwarding policy is DENY If I wish to offer a service on the Linux box to the outside world, need I configure IPCHAINS to allow access to that service? For instance, if I wish to offer SSH on port 22 from the WAN, must I specifically allow access to that port? Regards, Nathan
[newbie] Modem: Multitech MT5634ZPX-PCI
Has anyone out there successfully installed a Multitech MT5634ZPX-PCI in a ML 7.2 system? I set up a 'setserial' command for my rc.local as instructed by their online documentation, but continually get a modem is busy error when trying to connect via kppp. I also found some drivers at ftp://ftp.multitech.com and they won't compile Thanks in advance.
[newbie] soundcard and 8.0
In 7.2 i just ran sndconfig to get my soundblaster and attached cdrom working. In 8.0 do I actually have to compile a custom kernel to do this? I can do this if I must but it seems that there should be a simpler way. Typing sndconfig gets me command not found. Is there a sounddrake that I'm not finding? Harddrake won't detect it. I know the module needed is sbpcd0 because I eventually configured a new 2.2 kernel with a loadable module under 7.2 If this is covered in a howto, faq or previous post kindly point me in that direction. Thanks
RE: [newbie] rebuild src.rpms with athlon optimizations
-Original Message- From: abram olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 6:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [newbie] rebuild src.rpms with athlon optimizations if RPM can't build athlon packages then why do I have an athlon directory in /usr/src/RPM/RPMS ? --- Duh, because you issued a --target=athlon command which creates it. I read through the man and a whole crap load of other documentation before I even asked my question. I view this list as a LAST RESORT not a starting place. My system currently defaults to building i686 packages. I know that there is a config file somewhere that I can edit to make this work I just can't remember which one ;-) I also figured I'd start this conversation since I know that a lot of people use amd processors and it's nice for everybody to get as much bang for their buck as they can *right now*. Thanks for the RTFM answer dude. Next time read the thread before you post. --- Next time you might just want to RTFM before -YOU- post a response like this. Just because you dislike the answer, doesn't mean it's wrong. A sophomoric attitude doesn't help to get the answer you want. As I pointed out RPM does -NOT- know anything about athlon targets. You must pass optimization switches to the compiler directly via RPM to do this... Now that I gave you (correctly) a hint about what you have to do, do a little work and read how to do this. -JMS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] restoring lilio from floppy
great thanks. Jamie From: Joel West [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jamie Kerwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] restoring lilio from floppy Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:30:25 -0400 (EDT) Hi Jamie, 1st boot into Linux and log on as root. 2nd type 'lilo'. Thats all! Regards Joel West On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Jamie Kerwick wrote: I don't actually need to do this, but was wondering for reference. If my lilo config is screwed or removed via fdisk /mbr, how do i go about restoring it. I made by boot disk during installation which allows me to boot into Linux fine. What do i do from this stage? Cheers for the info. Jamie _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
re: [newbie] soundcard and 8.0
sndconfig should be installed, if it isn't it is on one of the CDs - can't remember which, it has to be run as root BTW, trying as user will produce the command not found response. Catch-22 time. I can't access the cdrom until I run sndconfig. Anyway, I downloaded sndconfig rpm from rpmfind.net and installed Now I think I just have to add a line to /etc/fstab to mount the cdrom and all should be well. I hope. Thanks
[newbie] Idconfig Failed Message during installation.
I tried installing Mandrake 8.0 several times (and still trying). It keeps on giving me the message idconfig failed half way through installing the packages. What does that mean? What am I supposed to do? Thanx. ~Valerie
Re: [newbie] Idconfig Failed Message during installation.
On Saturday 28 April 2001 15:40, *~ Valerie ~* wrote: I tried installing Mandrake 8.0 several times (and still trying). It keeps on giving me the message idconfig failed half way through installing the packages. What does that mean? What am I supposed to do? Thanx. ~Valerie It most likely means that you need to test your memory, and your cabling. memtest-x86.bin in the /images directory of your CD can be run by booting the CD then hitting F1 at the splash screen and typing rescue without the quotes. Then from the command line ./mnt/cdrom/images/memtest-x86.bin If you can specify your hardware, there may be other suggestions that could be given. Civileme
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.0 impression -the first quicky!--
On Friday 27 April 2001 18:51, you wrote: This looked like a good place to add my impressions of 8.0 (at a glance). I've been running another distribution for many years, and thought it time for a change (owing to some objectionable decisions lately on the part of developers of that distribution). So I took a look at Mandrake. I dl'd the ISOs and burned the CDs, and set to loading it. Running in expert mode, I bumped my shins on a few things in the install manager (mostly in the disk partitioning, owing to my use of LVM). But overall, the installer looks works pretty well. Once up, I go the impression of a system that was designed to be run out of the box. It looks nice, and has lots of graphics (great for getting the Windows converts), but it seems to brittle, and easily broken. I've already had to re-load the system once). A case in point: I've been working with XFS on LVM. To put XFS on the system requires building a kernel that includes the XFS code. Not a big deal, been there, done that. I usually build my own kernels anyway, I like to strip out the stuff I'm not using, and clean it up a bit. Well, doing that on this system left me with an unbootable kernel. I went back to the original, rebooted, and tried again. The system seems far too dependent on what-ever options are in the default kernel. I've tried many things (including copying the Mandrake default .config over to my new kernel tree). But it's been a struggle to get the kernel to build, meet all the dependencies, AND get it down to a size form that will work (XFS still isn't working _ It took me one try with my old distribution). I guess you can't please all the people all the time. :) Overall, the system looks pretty good, and for the average user, it's a good distribution. But it seems far to brittle to do anything too far off the beaten track. I'll probably go back to my old distr., only because it's far more tolerant of my hacking at it, and it still keeps on ticking. You guys have a good distr.. It will do well for the mainstream users. It's just not right for me. Keep up the good work. Maybe I'll come back after a few more releases, and it stabilizes. Till then Ric Yeah, I can second all of that. Frankly I it never crossed my mind to install MDK to hack into. It's a lovely distrib to show off with, especially to convert or dazzle Mswindows adepts :o) For hacking/experiments you need one of the others like Slack or Debian IMHO, as you stated Mdk gets hurt too easily. It's the toll one pays for the easy and smooth install, and it's not a heavy one;o) -- Semper avanti,sailing on Linux, Harm Bathoorn Free evermore. Hoek. NL. |~ | _ ___|__.__\_|_||_... \___\_|__||_|__|__ _\_Triade__NL__/ --- www.elv-transport.nl ---
Re: [newbie] rebuild src.rpms with athlon optimizations
Yes I can rebuild rpms no problem on this system. In fact one of the first things I did was rebuild all the This leads me to think there are specific problems with those two src rpms and not some problem inherent in your approach :). Yea I thought that I recognized that version number from somewhere. Crap that's not good. I would wish to get more information about that before I really commit to building crucial things (especially kernels) with this new gcc. (I am rebuilding the kernel now just to see if it will go all the way through, but am dubious about doing the install.) huh. Well, I'll continue my hunt and if I learn anything new I'll pass it on to you David. Well, I was successful in building an athlon-aware gcc. It involved pulling down the source rpms for gcc from Mandrake 8.0, building it first for --target-i686, and rebuilding it for --target=athlon just to be sure. There were a few glitches, conflicts and so forth; most of them were solved by --force installing the RPMs, which is not always the best way to go. I also had to backout and reinstall the gcc-2.96 main RPM because somehow /usr/bin/gcc was still pointing to the old specs file for 2.95.3 (which didn't support -march=athlon). OK, the kernel compile went all the way through. Before when I tried this with some other code I would get internal compiler errors and such. This whole exercise is more than just getting the pgcc+athlon patches and applying them to gcc as I had done before -- what amazes me is that there are several *hundred* patches that Mandrake applies as part of the build process. Abe David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. ---
Re: [newbie] how to run kpackage not as root
Paul wrote: Never heard of an option that lets you do this. Unless you allow everyone to log in as root. sudo is the answer to this problem. It's on cd 1. Install it and experiment with it. You'll see the power of controlling what your users can do rather than giving them the unlimited power of the root password. In the graphical environment, kdesu is a great solution as well. Giving someone root priviliges does not work either (I tried). If you give them user root priveleges (uid=0), it does work. If you give them group root priveleges it does not work. If you give them group urpmi priveleges, it seems like urpmi would allow it to work since the /usr/bin/urpmi is suid, but there is a specific uid==0 check that prevents that from working. -- tlyons at mandrakesoft dot com http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en
Re: [newbie] Stormix Out of Business
Jay needs a Guinness wrote: http://www.stormix.com/ That sucks. Somewhere in Redmond a Microsoft employee is smirking. Yes, it does suck. I had no personal experience with their distro, but I heard lots of good things about them. Saddens me to see them stumbling on hard times. -- tlyons at mandrakesoft dot com http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en
Re: [newbie] bios question
s wrote: it actually works correctly now. I guess something happened to it during the transplant. ? Thnx, -s Strange things happen when you unplug previously working equipment. Congratulations on the successful brain transplant! -- tlyons at mandrakesoft dot com http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en
Re: [newbie] rebuild src.rpms with athlon optimizations
Jose M. Sanchez wrote: if RPM can't build athlon packages then why do I have an athlon directory in /usr/src/RPM/RPMS ? --- Duh, because you issued a --target=athlon command which creates it. athlon/ exists by default, along with k6, but not k7. Since I don't often rebuild SRPMs, I'm not authoritative on this. I'll experiment and get back, but I'm out of town for a few days. You'll probably have all figured out the correct procedures and answers by the time I get back. -- tlyons at mandrakesoft dot com http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en
Re: [newbie] Kernel panic,please help
Vishal Abrol wrote: There are no other operating system installed,i believe hard disk has SCSI controller and hard drive is promise ultra66 Try using the boot images provided on the cdrom instead of letting the cdrom boot directly. The images I suggest you try are in images/alternatives/. The specific image I would try is cdrom.img-2.2.19-BADZ5. Use rawrite.exe to create the boot disk if you are making it in dos. Use dd to create the boot disk if you are making it in unix/linux. Good luck! -- tlyons at mandrakesoft dot com http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en
Re: [newbie] Postfix problem
Mattias Segerdahl wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: mail for coweb.commentor.se loops back to myself Postfix is doing a dns lookup on coweb.commentor.se and finding that the ip address points back to itself, but it's not configured to accept mail for coweb.commentor.se. You need to tell postfix that coweb.commentor.se is a local domain. (notice the strong influence of sendmail terms, sendmail being my first language :) -- tlyons at mandrakesoft dot com http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en
Re: [newbie] Logrotate
Delagarza, Gilbert wrote: What in the world is logrotate and why is it taking up so much memory and making my drive just run and run and run. I had this issue earlier this week where the server was just crawling. I noticed that logrotate was active twice taking up huge amounts of memory. I ended up rebooting the server to get it to stop. Now its back again. We have Linux Mandrake 7.0 There was a bug in an old version of logrotate that didn't show up until a config file was populated with just the right configuration entry. You have two options: Easy: download logrotate updated rpm for your version of Mandrake Manual: /etc/rc.d/init.d/syslog stop rm -rf /var/log/mail/* # go get a cup of coffee rm -rf /var/log/news/* # go get a refill of that coffee vi /etc/logrotate.d/syslog change the lines that say /var/log/mail/* /var/log/news/* to /var/log/mail/*log /var/log/news/*log /etc/rc.d/init.d/syslog start Good luck! -- tlyons at mandrakesoft dot com http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en
[newbie] Help, - desktop
Help. I just installed Mandrake 7.2 and was at the very last part where you setup the desktop gui my picking resolution, monitor, graphics card etc... Somehow it popped out and failed and now all I get is text mode. Does anyone know how to get back to setup so I can setup the GUI? Thanks, Jim _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] Zip Disk Ownership
Jordan Elver wrote: Hi, How can I mount my zip disk as another user other than root? Or, how can I change the ownership of files on the zip disk, at the moment it says 'Operation Not Permitted' even as root? In your /etc/fstab file, it is specifically forbidding regular users to mount and unmount that filesystem. You can allow that by editing the file (have to be root though :) and changing it similar to this (note the users in the options column: /dev/hdc4 /mnt/zipvfat noauto,users 0 0 A great deal of info about the layout of this file can be obtained by reading 'man fstab'. -- tlyons at mandrakesoft dot com http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en
Re: [newbie] rebuild src.rpms with athlon optimizations
hmm, in total I've tried this with 6 different packages and I get the same error with all of them so I don't think it's necessarily package related. I tried rebuilding gcc as i686 and it hung at the end when it was trying to write some pdf file??? I'll try it again though and see what happens. I've built my kernel with it and a whole crap load of other tools including tar, bz2, all the RPM tools, ftp, reiserFStools and every damn program that I use daily. No problems so far. Did you see the email from Todd? It's very cool that he is going to help us figure this out if we can't figure it out ourselves. This is fun David. Abe --- David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I can rebuild rpms no problem on this system. In fact one of the first things I did was rebuild all the This leads me to think there are specific problems with those two src rpms and not some problem inherent in your approach :). Yea I thought that I recognized that version number from somewhere. Crap that's not good. I would wish to get more information about that before I really commit to building crucial things (especially kernels) with this new gcc. (I am rebuilding the kernel now just to see if it will go all the way through, but am dubious about doing the install.) huh. Well, I'll continue my hunt and if I learn anything new I'll pass it on to you David. Well, I was successful in building an athlon-aware gcc. It involved pulling down the source rpms for gcc from Mandrake 8.0, building it first for --target-i686, and rebuilding it for --target=athlon just to be sure. There were a few glitches, conflicts and so forth; most of them were solved by --force installing the RPMs, which is not always the best way to go. I also had to backout and reinstall the gcc-2.96 main RPM because somehow /usr/bin/gcc was still pointing to the old specs file for 2.95.3 (which didn't support -march=athlon). OK, the kernel compile went all the way through. Before when I tried this with some other code I would get internal compiler errors and such. This whole exercise is more than just getting the pgcc+athlon patches and applying them to gcc as I had done before -- what amazes me is that there are several *hundred* patches that Mandrake applies as part of the build process. Abe David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- = Jesus saves. Allah forgives, Cthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich. -- See my digital art at: http://www.foramenmagnum.net/images.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] VLSI Chipset for Philips Seismic Edge PCI soundcard
Thank you. What I did was to assign XMMS to use a different driver.. Do you know of a driver for the VLSI Chipset? The card that I want to use is a Philips Seismic Edge. - Original Message - From: s [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] VLSI Chipset for Philips Seismic Edge PCI soundcard What distro/version are u using? That sound like 7.2 with kde 2.0. You need to upgrade if that's the case. It was fixed in kde2.1. It was a problem with the artsd. The work around I used until the newer version came out was just not assign a sound to opening windows. -s On Friday 27 April 2001 09:22 am, you wrote: Dear Friends and Fellow Users of Linux, Is there anyone who knows how to get my Philips PCI soundcard to run in Linux? I am using a SB16 now, but the issue is if I have my system sounds enabled in enlightenment, or any other gui I cannot use any multimedia applications. Linux tells me that my card is being used by another program. I want to fix this or find a fix for my PCI sound card. I know that I should be able to do both enable sounds and use the sound apps that come with Linux. Not just one or the other. Some help would be appreciated. TIA, Jeremy Hughes Mandrake User Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1; name=Attachment: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description:
