Re: [newbie] crontab in 9.0

2003-02-17 Thread Miark
I set up a cron jobs to play a real stream at a certain time. It didn't.
Then I set up a job to run a Perl script every 15 minutes. It seemed like it
wasn't doing it, but when I did a ps ax at the specified times, it turns out
it _was_ doing its job. 

realplay still isn't doing its job, but I've verified cron is working, so
at least I know where to concentrate my diagnostic efforts.

Miark


On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:02:58 +
Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tell us more, please?
> 
> Anne
> 
> On Monday 17 Feb 2003 9:16 pm, Miark wrote:
> > Okay, I got it working. Thanks.
> >
> > Miark
> >
> >
> >
> > On 17 Feb 2003 12:20:31 -0500
> >
> > Anthony Abby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 12:18, Miark wrote:
> > > > Have their been any issues with crontab in 9.0? I can't get it to do
> > > > anything as a user or as root.
> > >
> > > I use cron all the time.  I run it for backups nightly.  No issues here.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Comic Book Community News |  Web Programming
> > > Inventory Control, Auction, Management|  Cold Fusion
> > >  PHP & ASP
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-17 Thread Miark
Which Java is installed? I think you need the j2re for it to work, 
which you can download from MandrakeClub.

Miark



On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:54:01 -0600
andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> I just recently installed limewire, and when i tried executing the .bin (which 
> it came in as), it came up with this message:
> [deek@localhost Documents]$ ./LimeWireLinux.bin
> Preparing to install...
> Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
> Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
> No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
> environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
> running this program.
> 
> The thing is, I have Java VM installed, and I know for sure its working, it's 
> just somehow not detecting its there. Any help?
> 
> 


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[newbie] LimeWire Problems

2003-02-17 Thread andy
Hi
I just recently installed limewire, and when i tried executing the .bin (which 
it came in as), it came up with this message:
[deek@localhost Documents]$ ./LimeWireLinux.bin
Preparing to install...
Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
running this program.

The thing is, I have Java VM installed, and I know for sure its working, it's 
just somehow not detecting its there. Any help?


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Re: [newbie] Re: Fortran compiler

2003-02-17 Thread Seedkum Aladeem
Sorry I do not have a 9-track drive.

Seedkum


On Monday 17 February 2003 02:23 pm, Terry Smith wrote:
> Sorry, no paper tape reader:-(
>
> Do you have a 9-track drive?...I still have those programs on a reel
> laying about someplace here...
>
> Terry Smith
>
> On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 14:11, Seedkum Aladeem wrote:
> > On Monday 17 February 2003 08:06 am, Terry Smith wrote:
> > > Six inches thick! musta been runnin' some paltry code :-)).
> > >
> > > Ahh.. the grand old days (late 1970s),,,   I was in grad school working
> > > in an ecosystem modeling group. We ran, and re-ran and re-ran (usually
> > > a keypuch error!) a FORTRAN IV program which simulated all the
> > > interactions in a large northeast US estuarythree boxes of cards
> > > worth!  took about 40 minutes to read the stack.
> > >
> > > This is in a room not much larger than a good-sized bathroom, with a
> > > tty console (talking to the main frame on another campus), three
> > > keypuch machines, and high speed printer...all going non-stop, 12 hours
> > > a day.
> > >
> > > No wonder I have a hearing loss!
> > >
> > > Terry Smith
> > > Cape Cod USA
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 10:38, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > > > On Monday 17 February 2003 03:48 am, civileme wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday 16 February 2003 11:53 pm, laura wrote:
> > > > > > I'm new in Linux. Before asking, I tried to use g77 or f77, but I
> > > > > > don't have them on the computer. I have the gcc installed and I
> > > > > > can compile C programs without problems, but I can't compile
> > > > > > Fortran programs. I only wanted to know where I can find this
> > > > > > compiler.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Laura.
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > > I grew up with Fortran, back in the days when there were compilers
> > > > > such as Fortran-IV, Fortran-G, Fortran-H, Fortran-IV with Watfor
> > > > > and WatFIV...  It is still an interesting compiler and language,
> > > > > but these days I use almost exclusively Python because I am a
> > > > > bd habit programmer and I need something that forces me to code
> > > > > cleanly and clearly, even at the expense of features.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If that isn't enough
> > > >
> > > > Ooh, fortran IV, nostalgia hits the brain, the good old days of punch
> > > > cards and sorters. Never , ever drop a stack of cards 6 inches thick.
> > > > Can ruin your whole day. Hehehe
> > > > --
> > > > Dennis M. linux user #180842
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
> >
> > I remember those good old days. If you guys are nostalgic on the
> > seventies, I am also nostalgic on the sixties. I remember those stacks of
> > punched cards and machines and the punched paper tapes. I still have a
> > bunch of rolls of punched paper tapes. I do not have a paper tape reader
> > though. Do you know where I can get my hands on one in the San Francisco
> > Bay area?
> >
> > Thanx,
> >
> > Seedkum



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Re: [newbie] Beta 3 and NVIDIA

2003-02-17 Thread Greg Meyer
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On Monday 17 February 2003 06:52 pm, Terry Smith wrote:
> I've got 9.1 Beta 3 installed on one of my boxes. I have to agree with
> Civileme...a very easy install and everything's working.
>
> well almost...:-)
>
> My NVIDIA Geforce 2 MX 200 is not up to snuff.
>
> I usually install the NVIDIA drivers d'l'd from their site in tarball
> form.
>
> I tried compiling the older 3123 NVIDIA_kernel and get a bunch of
> errors.
>
> I tried compiling the 4191 driver also...no go. "nvidia.o" not found.
>
> Has gcc been changed? I can send folks the error messages but the first
> question is, has anyone got this going with the new kernel
> 2.4.21pre4-1mdk ?

Yes, no problems here on a GeForce2 MX200 and a GeForce3 ti200.  Are you sure 
you have the kernel-sources installed.

/g
>
>
> Terry Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: [newbie] Re: Fortran compiler

2003-02-17 Thread David E. Fox

> http://online.linuxberg.com/system/cobol.html  -- ANSI 74 COBOL

Oh yeah, tinycobol. 
> 
> OR wait a bit--there are two GNU projects  Cobol2C and Savannah (the second 
> for Cobol85)

savannah is where GNU graze, so to speak - it's a home site kind of
like sourceforge. I checked the cobol project but there doesn't seem
to be anything done - no mailing lists, for instance.

> Civileme



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Re: [newbie] Re: Fortran compiler

2003-02-17 Thread Terry Smith
Sorry, no paper tape reader:-(

Do you have a 9-track drive?...I still have those programs on a reel
laying about someplace here...

Terry Smith

On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 14:11, Seedkum Aladeem wrote:
> On Monday 17 February 2003 08:06 am, Terry Smith wrote:
> > Six inches thick! musta been runnin' some paltry code :-)).
> >
> > Ahh.. the grand old days (late 1970s),,,   I was in grad school working
> > in an ecosystem modeling group. We ran, and re-ran and re-ran (usually a
> > keypuch error!) a FORTRAN IV program which simulated all the
> > interactions in a large northeast US estuarythree boxes of cards
> > worth!  took about 40 minutes to read the stack.
> >
> > This is in a room not much larger than a good-sized bathroom, with a tty
> > console (talking to the main frame on another campus), three keypuch
> > machines, and high speed printer...all going non-stop, 12 hours a day.
> >
> > No wonder I have a hearing loss!
> >
> > Terry Smith
> > Cape Cod USA
> >
> > On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 10:38, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > > On Monday 17 February 2003 03:48 am, civileme wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 16 February 2003 11:53 pm, laura wrote:
> > > > > I'm new in Linux. Before asking, I tried to use g77 or f77, but I
> > > > > don't have them on the computer. I have the gcc installed and I can
> > > > > compile C programs without problems, but I can't compile Fortran
> > > > > programs. I only wanted to know where I can find this compiler.
> > > > >
> > > > > Laura.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > > I grew up with Fortran, back in the days when there were compilers such
> > > > as Fortran-IV, Fortran-G, Fortran-H, Fortran-IV with Watfor and
> > > > WatFIV...  It is still an interesting compiler and language, but these
> > > > days I use almost exclusively Python because I am a bd habit
> > > > programmer and I need something that forces me to code cleanly and
> > > > clearly, even at the expense of features.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If that isn't enough
> > >
> > > Ooh, fortran IV, nostalgia hits the brain, the good old days of punch
> > > cards and sorters. Never , ever drop a stack of cards 6 inches thick. Can
> > > ruin your whole day. Hehehe
> > > --
> > > Dennis M. linux user #180842
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
> 
> I remember those good old days. If you guys are nostalgic on the seventies, I 
> am also nostalgic on the sixties. I remember those stacks of punched cards 
> and machines and the punched paper tapes. I still have a bunch of rolls of 
> punched paper tapes. I do not have a paper tape reader though. Do you know 
> where I can get my hands on one in the San Francisco Bay area?
> 
> Thanx,
> 
> Seedkum
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[newbie]

2003-02-17 Thread jpreal
Hi,

I am new to linux so I apologise in advance if this question has been asked before. 
I am trying to connect my box to an ADSL router. Normally the router should assign an 
IP address to my NIC as well as the gateway...by dhcp. When i run dhcpdc the router 
doesn't assign the IP address, nothing is happening. I try to check my NIC (realtek 
RTL8139A) by asssigning a fixe IP address and pinging it. It does reply on itself but 
it is not working when i try to ping an other machine.
Any suggestions?
JP



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Re: [newbie] crontab in 9.0

2003-02-17 Thread Anne Wilson
Tell us more, please?

Anne

On Monday 17 Feb 2003 9:16 pm, Miark wrote:
> Okay, I got it working. Thanks.
>
> Miark
>
>
>
> On 17 Feb 2003 12:20:31 -0500
>
> Anthony Abby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 12:18, Miark wrote:
> > > Have their been any issues with crontab in 9.0? I can't get it to do
> > > anything as a user or as root.
> >
> > I use cron all the time.  I run it for backups nightly.  No issues here.
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Comic Book Community News   |  Web Programming
> > Inventory Control, Auction, Management  |  Cold Fusion
> >PHP & ASP

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Re: [newbie] Print problems

2003-02-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 Feb 2003 7:45 pm, David E. Fox wrote:
> > KDirWatch:  /etc/security/fileshare.conf is a file.  Use addFile!
>
> I have gotten that message from time to time - but I don't think it's
> related to printing.  I usually seem to get it sporadicaly while in
> konqueror.
>
Hmmm - I haven't seen it anywhere but in Acrobat.

> Have you checked to see if any files get put into the printer spool?

Nothing shows up except the raft of 0 length files that I have to clean out 
from time to time.

> (type 'lpr' at a prompt). If not it may have just "printed" your file
> to a postscript document, and you can print that. Also try 'lpr  of file>.pdf to see if things are set up to print PDF files.

That doesn't seem to be the explanation either.  The files just seem to be 
printed to ether.  It's not desperate - I got things working again, as I 
said, but I do like to know what's going on.

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Re: [newbie] Re: Fortran compiler

2003-02-17 Thread civileme
On Monday 17 February 2003 10:03 am, David E. Fox wrote:
> > selections and DO NOT NEGLECT all the wonderful compilers in the flat
> > list, plus a c interpreter.
>
> But no cobol. boo hoo. :)
http://online.linuxberg.com/system/cobol.html  -- ANSI 74 COBOL

OR wait a bit--there are two GNU projects  Cobol2C and Savannah (the second 
for Cobol85)

Though I really would not recommend it for new projects that require desktop 
interaction.  www.xbasic.org provides a nice visual interface and very 
accurate fixed point calculation (64 bit)

Civileme



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[newbie] mysql

2003-02-17 Thread Robert Wideman
I just installed 3.23.52 along with the requireds.  I logged in and changed
the password.  Rebooted and now i cant login.

[root@rwideman2 root]# mysql -u root mysql
ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[root@rwideman2 root]# mysql -u mysql mysql
ERROR 1044: Access denied for user: '@localhost' to database 'mysql'
[root@rwideman2 root]# mysql --user="mysql"
Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
Your MySQL connection id is 9 to server version: 3.23.52

Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer.

mysql>

I tried the password editing options listed on
http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Access_denied.html
and still cant fix it.
I removed mysql and installed it again and i am having the same issue.
I have NO data, NO DB, nothing.  I tried to verify the files that were
installed by:
[root@rwideman2 root]# rpm -V MySQL-3.23.52-1mdk
.M.. c /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql
But i have no clue to what this means other than that is the service script.
Is there away to completely remove mysql files and start over?


Rob



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[newbie] postfix aliases

2003-02-17 Thread Peter Watson
Mail to root is currently sent to /var/spool/mail/postfix. I want to change 
this to another user so I have edited the line

root:  .  .  postfix

in /etc/postfix/aliases to

root:  .  .  newuser

The docs say execute the command newaliases to update the aliases db. 
However here /usr/bin/newaliases is a symbolic link to 
/etc/alternatives/mta-newaliases and this does not exist.

Can anyone suggest how I accomplish this please?
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Re: [newbie] petroglyph wallpaper

2003-02-17 Thread Richard Leonard
On Sunday 16 Feb 2003 7:23 pm, Charles Roberts wrote:
> In Mandrake 7.0 there was a wallpaper named petroglyph. It was a
> reproduction of the southwest American Indians rock painting of a
> dancing man playing the flute. It is not in Mandrake 9.0. Does anyone
> know what happened to it? Where can I find a copy of it?
>
> tks
> Charles

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Re: [newbie] crontab in 9.0

2003-02-17 Thread Miark
Okay, I got it working. Thanks.

Miark



On 17 Feb 2003 12:20:31 -0500
Anthony Abby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 12:18, Miark wrote:
> > Have their been any issues with crontab in 9.0? I can't get it to do
> > anything as a user or as root.
> > 
> 
> 
> I use cron all the time.  I run it for backups nightly.  No issues here.
> 
> 
> -- 
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> Comic Book Community News |  Web Programming
> Inventory Control, Auction, Management|  Cold Fusion
>  PHP & ASP
> 
> 
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RE: [newbie] Re: Fortran compiler

2003-02-17 Thread Carter Harris
Did anyone ever work on one of the old Univac computers that punched
round holes?  That was my first experience.  When you got ready to
program it you got a handful of wires and a board.  You could step
through the program using a telephone dial on the side of the beast and
you you could read the results in lights on the side of it.

Don't consider any of this to be a longing for the past ... Except maybe
the chicks ... I still  had time for them then (smile).


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Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Terry Smith
Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Fortran compiler


On Monday 17 February 2003 08:06 am, Terry Smith wrote:
> Six inches thick! musta been runnin' some paltry code :-)).
>
> Ahh.. the grand old days (late 1970s),,,   I was in grad school
working
> in an ecosystem modeling group. We ran, and re-ran and re-ran (usually

> a keypuch error!) a FORTRAN IV program which simulated all the 
> interactions in a large northeast US estuarythree boxes of cards 
> worth!  took about 40 minutes to read the stack.
>
> This is in a room not much larger than a good-sized bathroom, with a 
> tty console (talking to the main frame on another campus), three 
> keypuch machines, and high speed printer...all going non-stop, 12 
> hours a day.
>
> No wonder I have a hearing loss!
>
> Terry Smith
> Cape Cod USA
>
> On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 10:38, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > On Monday 17 February 2003 03:48 am, civileme wrote:
> > > On Sunday 16 February 2003 11:53 pm, laura wrote:
> > > > I'm new in Linux. Before asking, I tried to use g77 or f77, but 
> > > > I don't have them on the computer. I have the gcc installed and 
> > > > I can compile C programs without problems, but I can't compile 
> > > > Fortran programs. I only wanted to know where I can find this 
> > > > compiler.
> > > >
> > > > Laura.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > I grew up with Fortran, back in the days when there were compilers

> > > such as Fortran-IV, Fortran-G, Fortran-H, Fortran-IV with Watfor 
> > > and WatFIV...  It is still an interesting compiler and language, 
> > > but these days I use almost exclusively Python because I am a 
> > > bd habit programmer and I need something that forces me to 
> > > code cleanly and clearly, even at the expense of features.
> > >
> > >
> > > If that isn't enough
> >
> > Ooh, fortran IV, nostalgia hits the brain, the good old days of 
> > punch cards and sorters. Never , ever drop a stack of cards 6 inches

> > thick. Can ruin your whole day. Hehehe
> > --
> > Dennis M. linux user #180842
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

I remember those good old days. If you guys are nostalgic on the
seventies, I 
am also nostalgic on the sixties. I remember those stacks of punched
cards 
and machines and the punched paper tapes. I still have a bunch of rolls
of 
punched paper tapes. I do not have a paper tape reader though. Do you
know 
where I can get my hands on one in the San Francisco Bay area?

Thanx,

Seedkum






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Re: [newbie] Print problems

2003-02-17 Thread David E. Fox
> KDirWatch:  /etc/security/fileshare.conf is a file.  Use addFile!

I have gotten that message from time to time - but I don't think it's
related to printing.  I usually seem to get it sporadicaly while in
konqueror.

Have you checked to see if any files get put into the printer spool?
(type 'lpr' at a prompt). If not it may have just "printed" your file
to a postscript document, and you can print that. Also try 'lpr .pdf to see if things are set up to print PDF files. 








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RE: [newbie] services reports failed but working

2003-02-17 Thread Robert Wideman
>> when i do.
>> #service network restart
>> it will show
>> Shutting down interface eth0[FAILED]
>> Shutting down interface eth1[FAILED]
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> and it will bring up of course
>> but all it says
>> [FAILED]

If it never shutdown then it would obviously not start up since it is
already started.
Have you tried rebooting?

Rob



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Re: [newbie] HD

2003-02-17 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 21:51, Gil Katz wrote:
> Hi
> i had one HD 10GB which i splitt to 3 partitions
> /, swap and /home
> after a while i bought a new HD 80GB and i moved /home to it, so now i have
> one big empty partition that i want to transfer its size to swap and to /
> should i delete the partition and then resize both / and swap or there is 
> another or a better way?
> Gil

You could always make another swap on that drive, turn on swapping for
that swap, turn off swap for the old one...

As well, it's a 10gb drive, you could put your /var and /tmp on it along
with a nice swap...

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Re: [newbie] KDE3.1 totally messed up

2003-02-17 Thread David E. Fox
> Looks like I managed to mess up the system good. With the texstar KDE rpms I 
> can shut down konqueror ok, but I can no longer access my cdrom devices. The 

How are you accessing the drives? Are you using the icons? Maybe the
icons are messed up. KDE should not be interfering with the devices -
i.e., you should still be able to mount them or go to them in a
console. 

You might try right-clicking on Properties on your cdrom icon to
double-check the settings. Over here, I don't see anything wrong, and
I installed 3.1 sometime ago. FWIW, I do get a popup box about not
being able to launch kfmexec, but konqueror does pop up witht cdrom's
contents.

In previous upgrades I've had to move the old .kde over and recreate a
new .kde, but in the last upgrade I didn't do that and it seems to
have kept all the previous settings. For me, it was a relatively clean
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Re: [newbie] Re: Fortran compiler

2003-02-17 Thread Seedkum Aladeem
On Monday 17 February 2003 08:06 am, Terry Smith wrote:
> Six inches thick! musta been runnin' some paltry code :-)).
>
> Ahh.. the grand old days (late 1970s),,,   I was in grad school working
> in an ecosystem modeling group. We ran, and re-ran and re-ran (usually a
> keypuch error!) a FORTRAN IV program which simulated all the
> interactions in a large northeast US estuarythree boxes of cards
> worth!  took about 40 minutes to read the stack.
>
> This is in a room not much larger than a good-sized bathroom, with a tty
> console (talking to the main frame on another campus), three keypuch
> machines, and high speed printer...all going non-stop, 12 hours a day.
>
> No wonder I have a hearing loss!
>
> Terry Smith
> Cape Cod USA
>
> On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 10:38, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > On Monday 17 February 2003 03:48 am, civileme wrote:
> > > On Sunday 16 February 2003 11:53 pm, laura wrote:
> > > > I'm new in Linux. Before asking, I tried to use g77 or f77, but I
> > > > don't have them on the computer. I have the gcc installed and I can
> > > > compile C programs without problems, but I can't compile Fortran
> > > > programs. I only wanted to know where I can find this compiler.
> > > >
> > > > Laura.
> >
> > 
> >
> > > I grew up with Fortran, back in the days when there were compilers such
> > > as Fortran-IV, Fortran-G, Fortran-H, Fortran-IV with Watfor and
> > > WatFIV...  It is still an interesting compiler and language, but these
> > > days I use almost exclusively Python because I am a bd habit
> > > programmer and I need something that forces me to code cleanly and
> > > clearly, even at the expense of features.
> > >
> > >
> > > If that isn't enough
> >
> > Ooh, fortran IV, nostalgia hits the brain, the good old days of punch
> > cards and sorters. Never , ever drop a stack of cards 6 inches thick. Can
> > ruin your whole day. Hehehe
> > --
> > Dennis M. linux user #180842
> >
> > 
> >
> >
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I remember those good old days. If you guys are nostalgic on the seventies, I 
am also nostalgic on the sixties. I remember those stacks of punched cards 
and machines and the punched paper tapes. I still have a bunch of rolls of 
punched paper tapes. I do not have a paper tape reader though. Do you know 
where I can get my hands on one in the San Francisco Bay area?

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[newbie] A night at the Opera

2003-02-17 Thread Kaj Haulrich
Hello list. I think this will be of some interest to you :

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: re: Bork edition
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:38:17 +0100
From: Live Leer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi Kaj

Actually, we know that, but the developers working on the
 Linux edition have to make Opera 7 for Linux before they
 can start working on the Bork edition. And the timing is
 so tight that we could not allow them to work on a Bork
 edition in the middle of that. There have actually been a
 couple of users who have asked if we could release a
 Linux version as well...

Sincerely,

Live Leer
Marcom Manager
Opera Software ASA
www.opera.com

 >>  Your Bork initiative is splendid !
 >>
 >>  However, it seems that you are unaware that msn
 >>  deliberately distorts their site for users of
 >> Opera/Linux as well :
 >>
 >>  When using Opera 6.11 for linux the content is
 >> heavily distorted and unusable. I tried the same site
 >> using Mozilla 1.2.1 and Konqueror and everything was
 >> OK - as so far anything M$ is OK  - but Opera is
 >> sabotaged.
 >>
 >>  Best regards
 >>
 >>  Kaj Haulrich.
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Re: [newbie] Re: Fortran compiler

2003-02-17 Thread David E. Fox
> selections and DO NOT NEGLECT all the wonderful compilers in the flat list, 
> plus a c interpreter.

But no cobol. boo hoo. :)



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Re: [newbie] HD

2003-02-17 Thread David E. Fox
> One thing that matters on your 10G drive in the / partition.  You might
> want to copy it to your second drive and make sure you can actually

Actually that would be pointless, because the next time the OP
restarted his system it would just use the same swap partition if he
set it up to do that. There's no need to preserve swap partition
data. 

If the OP is going to reuse the drive, he doesn't need to preserve
anything on the 10GB except home. It is still a good idea to keep a
backup of some directories inside the root (i.e., /), particularly
/etc.

The last tiem I did this, I migrated from a 1.6 gig drive and a 325
meg drive to a 30 gig drive. I had previously just the 325, but I did
much the same thing as I did when I got the 1.6 -- I copied /home to a 
larger partition on the newer drive. I had / and /usr over on the 1.6,
so I reinstalled plus kept /home and gave the new /home a bigger slice
on the bigger drive. Then I retired the 323 (which just had the old
/home and /var), relegated (origianally) the 1.6 for /var/spool as
well as a swap, and carved out partitions on the 30 gig drive.

One thing is that I gave / a ratler large space on the drive, but
that has a good side, because if I need to move things around, as I
had to do a couple of times, there's enough space on / (or /tmp) to
place tar's of the other partitions ;).

Like Civilme said, it's best to balance the swap between the two
drives, but maybe the OP is retiring the 10GB - but might as well keep
it, he could have a 10 gb (more or less) /home just on that disk, and
put the remainder of stuff on 80gb - wow that's a lot of disk for
linux :). IOW, tar up the existing /home partition, back it up (very
important) somewhere, and then reformat the old drive with just one or
two partitions, /home being one, and possibly swap being the other --
then restore the /home backup into the bigger partition. That's
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Re: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand

2003-02-17 Thread robin
Robert Wideman wrote:

As the person who started this thread...How did it go from RIAA to Iraq?
Rob


All roads lead to Baghdad.

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[newbie] services reports failed but working

2003-02-17 Thread realsite internetcafe
when i do.
#service network restart
it will show
Shutting down interface eth0[FAILED]
Shutting down interface eth1[FAILED]
.
.
.
and it will bring up of course
but all it says
[FAILED]

ive checked and rechecked. the process went fine. the
network restarted.
BUT!!!

its not only network, most of my services (dhcpd,
httpd, iptables, etc...) when i restart them, it says
[FAILED] but its still working

what is it thats wrong??



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Re: [newbie] HD

2003-02-17 Thread civileme
On Monday 17 February 2003 04:35 am, Greg Meyer wrote:
> On Saturday 15 February 2003 08:26 pm, Chuck Burns wrote:
> > GACK!  *clue* You can have MORE than one swapfile!  make the other
> > partition a SECOND swapfile.. done..
>
> Not done.  Make sure you have an entry for the second swapfile in
> /etc/fstab.

Two swapfiles on same disk?  Well that is about as useful as...  No, something 
needs to break up the blankness on the male chest...

If you make two swaps, put one on each disk, then they will stripe like a 
RAID0.  If you have two swaps on the same disk you need to assign priorities 
for use orelse they will attempt to stripe with a lot of unnecessary 
head-stepping and will be the slowest swap you ever saw.

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Re: [newbie] crontab in 9.0

2003-02-17 Thread Miark
their=there

oh, the humanity of it all...  :-)



On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:18:58 -0500
Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Have their been any issues with crontab in 9.0? I can't get it to do
> anything as a user or as root.
> 
> Miark
> 
> 


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Re: [newbie] HD

2003-02-17 Thread civileme
On Monday 17 February 2003 01:51 am, Gil Katz wrote:
> Hi
> i had one HD 10GB which i splitt to 3 partitions
> /, swap and /home
> after a while i bought a new HD 80GB and i moved /home to it, so now i have
> one big empty partition that i want to transfer its size to swap and to /
> should i delete the partition and then resize both / and swap or there is
> another or a better way?
> Gil

Well with /home being a huge partition, there is a simple way and an elegant 
way.  You will have o decide which is "better"

The simple way is to drop in your install disk and reinstall, not formatting 
/home and letting diskdrake do the carving.

The elegant way is to do this
$mkdir -p /home/temproot
$su
password: (your root password)
# cp -a / /home/temproot
# emacs /home/temproot/etc/fstab
remove the / and /home entries in /etc/fstab by commenting them out, but 
remember the partition numbers
# chroot /home/temproot
# fdisk /dev/hda (or diskdrake)
(make the / and swap partitions...  I will assume you made / at /dev/hda1)
# mkdir -p /mnt/tmp
# mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/tmp
# emacs /etc/fstab
restore your entries for /home and / by deleting the sharp signs you used to 
comment them out.
# cp -a / /mnt/tmp
# chroot /mnt/tmp
# mount /home
# rm -r /home/temproot -f
# exit

Please note that the fdisk will work if you have a separate /usr but the 
diskdrake will not because /usr is inaccessible after the 1st chroot.

note also that a reboot after the copy of / to its new demesnes will work but 
will leave a copy at /home/temproot

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Re: [newbie] crontab in 9.0

2003-02-17 Thread Anthony Abby
On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 12:18, Miark wrote:
> Have their been any issues with crontab in 9.0? I can't get it to do
> anything as a user or as root.
> 


I use cron all the time.  I run it for backups nightly.  No issues here.


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[newbie] crontab in 9.0

2003-02-17 Thread Miark
Have their been any issues with crontab in 9.0? I can't get it to do
anything as a user or as root.

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Re: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand

2003-02-17 Thread Greg Meyer
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On Monday 17 February 2003 10:29 am, Rifza Adriansyah wrote:

> palestinians use suicidal bombs, it is called terorists but If
> Israeli F-16 jetfighters bomb palestinian houses, it is just called
> self-defence. Well, everyone has owned opinion. I can't do something

The difference being that if there were no suicide bombings, there would be no 
retaliations by Isreal.  I'm not sure how you can equte the two, although 
based on what you say, apparently many people do.  

If I punch someone in the arm, I expect him to punch me back.  I would bet 
that if the suicide bombings stopped, so would the retaliations.  

> to make this earth is safe, peace, prosperous to everyone alone. I
> think if we respect each other, make fair judges about something, we
> can live in this planet happily or we should leave this planet and
> build new human civilization in planet Mars :-).

We can't do that, there are no more space shuttles :-)

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Re: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand

2003-02-17 Thread Rifza Adriansyah
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On Sunday 16 February 2003 14:59, Aaron wrote:
> I don't live in the US but if the United States relays on the UN
> and doesn't do what it needs to there may be no country at all. I
> wish The Americans and Pres. Bush the strength to do whats right
> because the opinion of Jihad (Muslim holy war) is indeed the end of
> western Civilization as we know it.

Many people in my country don't agree about the war towards Iraq. They 
said Iraq is not a threat to world but Iraq is a threat towards 
Israel. They think US Govt is unfair in Middle East Conflict. If 
palestinians use suicidal bombs, it is called terorists but If 
Israeli F-16 jetfighters bomb palestinian houses, it is just called 
self-defence. Well, everyone has owned opinion. I can't do something 
to make this earth is safe, peace, prosperous to everyone alone. I 
think if we respect each other, make fair judges about something, we 
can live in this planet happily or we should leave this planet and 
build new human civilization in planet Mars :-).

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Re: [newbie] Re: Fortran compiler

2003-02-17 Thread Terry Smith
Six inches thick! musta been runnin' some paltry code :-)).

Ahh.. the grand old days (late 1970s),,,   I was in grad school working
in an ecosystem modeling group. We ran, and re-ran and re-ran (usually a
keypuch error!) a FORTRAN IV program which simulated all the
interactions in a large northeast US estuarythree boxes of cards
worth!  took about 40 minutes to read the stack. 

This is in a room not much larger than a good-sized bathroom, with a tty
console (talking to the main frame on another campus), three keypuch
machines, and high speed printer...all going non-stop, 12 hours a day.

No wonder I have a hearing loss!

Terry Smith
Cape Cod USA

On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 10:38, Dennis Myers wrote:
> On Monday 17 February 2003 03:48 am, civileme wrote:
> > On Sunday 16 February 2003 11:53 pm, laura wrote:
> > > I'm new in Linux. Before asking, I tried to use g77 or f77, but I don't
> > > have them on the computer. I have the gcc installed and I can compile C
> > > programs without problems, but I can't compile Fortran programs. I only
> > > wanted to know where I can find this compiler.
> > >
> > > Laura.
> > >
> 
> > I grew up with Fortran, back in the days when there were compilers such as
> > Fortran-IV, Fortran-G, Fortran-H, Fortran-IV with Watfor and WatFIV...  It
> > is still an interesting compiler and language, but these days I use almost
> > exclusively Python because I am a bd habit programmer and I need
> > something that forces me to code cleanly and clearly, even at the expense
> > of features.
> >
> >
> > If that isn't enough
> 
> Ooh, fortran IV, nostalgia hits the brain, the good old days of punch cards 
> and sorters. Never , ever drop a stack of cards 6 inches thick. Can ruin your 
> whole day. Hehehe 
> -- 
> Dennis M. linux user #180842
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] Chat a la Roger Wilco

2003-02-17 Thread Alan Carbutt
http://www.teamspeak.org

On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 11:59, Miark wrote:
> Is there a voice chat prog for Linux like unto 
> Roger Wilco? I don't care about public hosting and
> all that jazz. I just want to chat with one person
> over the Net.
> 
> Miark
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] Re: Fortran compiler

2003-02-17 Thread Dennis Myers
On Monday 17 February 2003 03:48 am, civileme wrote:
> On Sunday 16 February 2003 11:53 pm, laura wrote:
> > I'm new in Linux. Before asking, I tried to use g77 or f77, but I don't
> > have them on the computer. I have the gcc installed and I can compile C
> > programs without problems, but I can't compile Fortran programs. I only
> > wanted to know where I can find this compiler.
> >
> > Laura.
> >

> I grew up with Fortran, back in the days when there were compilers such as
> Fortran-IV, Fortran-G, Fortran-H, Fortran-IV with Watfor and WatFIV...  It
> is still an interesting compiler and language, but these days I use almost
> exclusively Python because I am a bd habit programmer and I need
> something that forces me to code cleanly and clearly, even at the expense
> of features.
>
>
> If that isn't enough

Ooh, fortran IV, nostalgia hits the brain, the good old days of punch cards 
and sorters. Never , ever drop a stack of cards 6 inches thick. Can ruin your 
whole day. Hehehe 
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Re: [newbie] Problem with MDK v9 and Sound Blaster Live

2003-02-17 Thread Dennis Myers
On Monday 17 February 2003 07:47 am, et wrote:
> On Sunday 16 February 2003 09:10 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> > On Sunday 16 February 2003 07:15 pm, Andrew Robert wrote:
> > > Good evening everyone,
> > >
> > > I have a Dell Dimension 4550 series Pentium 4 2.4 GHz system configured
> > > to dual boot a fully patched MDK v9 and Windows XP Professional.
> > >
> > > The PCI Sound Blaster Live card installed on the system is not
> > > functioning under MDK v9.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any ideas on how to get this working under MDK 9?
> > >
> > > Any assistance you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > I searched the FAQ list but all I could find were references to ISA
> > > cards.
> >
> > If it isn't already, install "sndconfig" and then in a console type
> > sndconfig. This will take take you into a dos like  install of the sound
> > card, hopefully.
>
> mhhhmmm, As _I_ understand it sndconfig is for ISA sound cards.
> harddrake, should be run, alsamixer and kmix should also be checked to
> insure the levels are turned up enough to hear (it may be working, but the
> default is all the way down in the volume

It is prettymuch for isa but does detect the pci cards also. I have used it in 
the past for that. It was just a shot in the dark since nothing else seemed 
to work in the more modern protocols.
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Re: [newbie] Print problems

2003-02-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 Feb 2003 3:00 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:
> On Monday 17 Feb 2003 12:54 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > From time to time I have problems printing from Acrobat.  The file goes
> > to KPrinter, then immediately disappears.   The error message that
> > appears after every (not just the failed) printjob is
> >
> > KDirWatch:  /etc/security/fileshare.conf is a file.  Use addFile!
> >
> > Does anyone understand this message?  Is it relevant to my print problem?
> > Any advice?
> >
> > Anne
>
> I get that and my printing works just fine.
>
OK - so I'll ignore it.
> Do you get the kprinter window appear?
>
> If you start acroread from a terminal you may see an error message.

I tried several attempts once it had failed, without success, but I did 
eventually beat it.  I printed out an email!  

I figured that if something needed flushing, printing something else would 
either fail also, in which case I would have to re-boot to clean up, or it 
would flush and all would be well again.  In fact that is exactly what 
happened.  After the email I was able to print the remaining 68 pages without 
problem.  (I should explain that I find Acrobat seems to fail regularly on 
very large files, so I tend to split it into sections of <=100 pages)

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Re: [newbie] Print problems

2003-02-17 Thread Derek Jennings
On Monday 17 Feb 2003 12:54 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
> From time to time I have problems printing from Acrobat.  The file goes to
> KPrinter, then immediately disappears.   The error message that appears
> after every (not just the failed) printjob is
>
> KDirWatch:  /etc/security/fileshare.conf is a file.  Use addFile!
>
> Does anyone understand this message?  Is it relevant to my print problem? 
> Any advice?
>
> Anne

I get that and my printing works just fine.

Do you get the kprinter window appear?

If you start acroread from a terminal you may see an error message.

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Re: [newbie] Installing dictionary

2003-02-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 Feb 2003 2:31 pm, Jason Guidry wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 05:10, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Monday 17 Feb 2003 2:42 am, Jason Guidry wrote:
> > > How does one install a dictionary, like for evolustion, OO, abiword and
> > > the like?
> >
> > First, go to install software, and install aspell and ispell in your
> > required language.  Then ask for specific help for each app that you have
> > a problem with , and someone will talk you through.
>
> Thanks anne.  I urpmi the ispell package, but evolution still sees no
> dictionary.  It's the cookered 1.2.2, but I've had this consistantly
> since I installed 9.0.  adn i cna't speel wel wihtout it.

I don't use Evolution, but I had a quick look and can't see any obvious way of 
calling a spellcheck, so I'll leave that to someone who does use it.

I recommended installing both aspell and ispell, as I know that applications 
don't all use the same, and I'm not sure which uses which one.  I can tell 
you, though that in OO0, if you have the dictionary installed, you then must 
go to Tools > Options > Language Settings > Languages and set those boxes 
right.  After that the spell check should work OK.

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Re: [newbie] HD

2003-02-17 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 12:57:54PM +, John Richard Smith wrote:
> Gil Katz wrote:
> 
> >Hi
> >i had one HD 10GB which i splitt to 3 partitions
> >/, swap and /home
> >after a while i bought a new HD 80GB and i moved /home to it, so now i have
> >one big empty partition that i want to transfer its size to swap and to /
> >should i delete the partition and then resize both / and swap or there is 
> >another or a better way?
> >Gil
> >  
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> Assuming that you have nothing left on the 10g hd  that matters to you, just
> delete the partitions to wipe them out entirely and remake them as you
> want them and format and install accordingly. If you intend putting a /swap
> partition on this harddrive, then it's size ought to be 1 1/2 to 2 times
> physical memory.

One thing that matters on your 10G drive in the / partition.  You might
want to copy it to your second drive and make sure you can actually boot
boot from it there (use Lilo to set up a dual boot -- original linux or
copy of linux) before you delete and resize / on your 10G drive.

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Re: [newbie] Installing dictionary

2003-02-17 Thread Jason Guidry
On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 05:10, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 17 Feb 2003 2:42 am, Jason Guidry wrote:
> > How does one install a dictionary, like for evolustion, OO, abiword and
> > the like?
> 
> First, go to install software, and install aspell and ispell in your required 
> language.  Then ask for specific help for each app that you have a problem 
> with , and someone will talk you through.

Thanks anne.  I urpmi the ispell package, but evolution still sees no
dictionary.  It's the cookered 1.2.2, but I've had this consistantly
since I installed 9.0.  adn i cna't speel wel wihtout it.


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Re: [newbie] Mdk 9.1 beta3 network problem

2003-02-17 Thread et
what does (in a text console without the quotes) "hostname" report?

On Monday 17 February 2003 03:53 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> All,
>
> I reinstalled beta 3 and it did not work again. Seems like there is a
> bit of a problem with Realtek network cards. Mine is a RTL 8139 but
> there is a guy on the cooker list with a RTL8129 with the same problem.
> The route for the gateway is setup eth0 is there everything seems fine.
> So it looks like this is a show stopper for beta 3 for me and anyone
> else with a realtek card. Yes I have done the acpi=off and so had he. It
> has been logged at bugzilla
> https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1566 so now it's wait and
> see.
>
> Tony.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Mdk 9.1 beta3 network problem
>
>
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> On Thursday 13 February 2003 06:40 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I installed beta 3 last night on my system (formatted /, /usr and /var
> > but kept /home), everything seems fine except for the internet
> > connection. I have a realtek 8139 card. The mcc says the lan is up but
> > not the internet (have to run mcc from command line as menu icon does
> > not work). I had no probs with 9.0 and when I boot into windows the
> > internet is there. I looked through cooker list last night and could
>
> not
>
> > find anything similar to my problem so I assume that it is a settings
> > problem. Do I need to remove some of the hidden directories from my
>
> home
>
> > dir, and if so which ones, as I have a lot for programs I want to keep
> > the settings for?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tony.
>
> Do you have a newer motherboard.  Some newer hardware, particularly
> mobos with
> VIA chipsets, does not have acpi implemented properly in the kernel,
> which
> causes what you are describing.
>
> Try hitting the esc key when the LILO menu comes up and typing the
> following
> at the prompt:
>
> linux noapic acpi=off
>
> and see if that solves the problem.
>
> If it does, upgrade your beta 3 kernel to the latest one in Cooker and
> see if
> that fixes the problem also.  It did for my machine.
>
> /g
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Re: [newbie] Logictech Quickcam Express

2003-02-17 Thread et
On Sunday 16 February 2003 11:24 pm, Miark wrote:
> I can get a Quickcam Express at eBay for $14.95. Sounds like a
> good deal, and it appears to be supported in Linux, but I don't
> know how well it works in Linux.
>
> What say you? Is it a good buy for a Linux user?
>
> Miark
my experience with the logitec Quickcam is that it can not stand being dropped 
at all, and is not very sturdy, I would be cautious about a used one. I like 
to suggest that if you already own a regular video cam, to hook it up with a 
TV card. you will have a thousand % better picture and color than any 
quickcam, and since you are using something you already might own and you can 
pull the cable out of the videdeo cam and use it like you would normally 


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Re: [newbie] Fun discussion question for the list

2003-02-17 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:49:12 -0500
Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> without allowing proper blood flow

shouldn't that be Beer flow


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RE: [newbie] Mdk 9.1 beta3 network problem

2003-02-17 Thread Tony S. Sykes
Greg,

Don't worry, I still struggle to remember to turn off return receipts
for posts to the lists. Thanks for trying anyway.

Tony.

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On Monday 17 February 2003 07:20 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> Greg,
>
> As mentioned in the previous mail, I have done the acpi=off. Thanks
for
> the help but you have told me to do this 3 times now, it didn't work
the
> first time and it didn't work for the guy I mentioned from cooker
> either.
>
Sorry for the duplication.  That fix has solved the problem for so many
people 
it has been an automatic response everytime I see someone with a network
problem in beta3.   I did realize after I posted that you were
responding to 
a previous post from me.  My mistake.

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Re: [newbie] Fun discussion question for the list

2003-02-17 Thread Mark Weaver
robin wrote:


Or more specifically, you build a package and upload it to the 
contribs folder that actually works and everyone else can use. for me, 
prolly a long way off. I'm still in the break it and fix it area.


Funnily enough I came within a whisker of doing that with lyx-qt-1.3, 
but someone beat me to it while I was still messing around with the spec 
file. It was fun learning how to make an RPM, though - not nearly as 
hard as I'd imagined it would be.

Sir Robin

True, but those spec files can make you go blind if you stay at it too 
long without allowing proper blood flow to the brain now and then. ;)

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Re: [newbie] unkillable process?

2003-02-17 Thread Mark Weaver
Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:

On Sun 2003-02-16 at 14:46:03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:


[...]


Correct. If it does not, there is nothing a mere user (or admin) can
do about it.


I know it's late in the thread but I thought I'd mention that when I get 
a process that I can't kill from top or using ps then I've always had 
success doing it from webmin. haven't had one yet that couldn't be 
killed from webmin.


Sorry to say so, but that makes no sense. webmin has not access to
anything that kill or top hasn't.

You made me curious enough that I installed webmin and had a look at
the source and it uses the usual kill() system call as do the CLI kill
and top. Really, if you observed this behaviour, I wonder why. You did
use signal 9 (aka SIGKILL) when trying with kill/top, didn't you?


Benjamin.



Ben,

Can't explain it and you're right when you say it doesn't have any 
access that isn't the same as ps or top, but as I said, I've not had a 
process yet that it couldn't get rid of when the others have failed. 
thats the simple fact of the experience.

As for what signal was used...pretty much any and all. the fact that 
they wouldn't die was part of what led me to try webmin. I wasn't 
physically at the machine and ssh was a bit dodgey that day, so I 
connected to webmin and viola! no more nasty-refusing-to-die process.

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Re: [newbie] Problem with MDK v9 and Sound Blaster Live

2003-02-17 Thread et
On Sunday 16 February 2003 09:10 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
> On Sunday 16 February 2003 07:15 pm, Andrew Robert wrote:
> > Good evening everyone,
> >
> > I have a Dell Dimension 4550 series Pentium 4 2.4 GHz system configured
> > to dual boot a fully patched MDK v9 and Windows XP Professional.
> >
> > The PCI Sound Blaster Live card installed on the system is not
> > functioning under MDK v9.
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas on how to get this working under MDK 9?
> >
> > Any assistance you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > I searched the FAQ list but all I could find were references to ISA
> > cards.
>
> If it isn't already, install "sndconfig" and then in a console type
> sndconfig. This will take take you into a dos like  install of the sound
> card, hopefully.
mhhhmmm, As _I_ understand it sndconfig is for ISA sound cards.
harddrake, should be run, alsamixer and kmix should also be checked to insure 
the levels are turned up enough to hear (it may be working, but the default 
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Re: [newbie] HD

2003-02-17 Thread Greg Meyer
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> GACK!  *clue* You can have MORE than one swapfile!  make the other
> partition a SECOND swapfile.. done..

Not done.  Make sure you have an entry for the second swapfile in /etc/fstab.
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Re: [newbie] HD

2003-02-17 Thread Chuck Burns
On Monday 17 February 2003 6:57 am, John Richard Smith wrote:
> Gil Katz wrote:
> >Hi
> >i had one HD 10GB which i splitt to 3 partitions
> >/, swap and /home
> >after a while i bought a new HD 80GB and i moved /home to it, so now i
> > have one big empty partition that i want to transfer its size to swap and
> > to / should i delete the partition and then resize both / and swap or
> > there is another or a better way?
> >Gil
>
> Assuming that you have nothing left on the 10g hd  that matters to you,
> just delete the partitions to wipe them out entirely and remake them as you
> want them and format and install accordingly. If you intend putting a /swap
> partition on this harddrive, then it's size ought to be 1 1/2 to 2 times
> physical memory.
GACK!  *clue* You can have MORE than one swapfile!  make the other partition a 
SECOND swapfile.. done..

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Re: [newbie] HD

2003-02-17 Thread John Richard Smith
Gil Katz wrote:


Hi
i had one HD 10GB which i splitt to 3 partitions
/, swap and /home
after a while i bought a new HD 80GB and i moved /home to it, so now i have
one big empty partition that i want to transfer its size to swap and to /
should i delete the partition and then resize both / and swap or there is 
another or a better way?
Gil
 


 

Assuming that you have nothing left on the 10g hd  that matters to you, just
delete the partitions to wipe them out entirely and remake them as you
want them and format and install accordingly. If you intend putting a /swap
partition on this harddrive, then it's size ought to be 1 1/2 to 2 times
physical memory.

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[newbie] no audio in Xine...?

2003-02-17 Thread linux
G'day,

as the sub says, I get no audio when playing VCDs in Xine.
Audio works fine in XMMS, but in Xine I get video ok but
no sound.
Clicking on the config tool and then to the audio tab reveals
the "audio driver to use" is set to "null". Well that would
do it, I guess...
Thing is, there's no way I can see to change it. Clicking
all over the window does nothing; the help tab brings up a
blank page. I've been wandering around the Mandrake control
center, but it doesn't seem to report anything wrong.

The sound chip is an AC97 onboard [a Matsonic MS9107C+
motherboard]. What other system details should I include
to enable you to help me better?

TIA, as always

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Re: [newbie] Installing dictionary

2003-02-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 17 Feb 2003 2:42 am, Jason Guidry wrote:
> How does one install a dictionary, like for evolustion, OO, abiword and
> the like?

First, go to install software, and install aspell and ispell in your required 
language.  Then ask for specific help for each app that you have a problem 
with , and someone will talk you through.

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RE: [newbie] Test

2003-02-17 Thread Tony S. Sykes
John,

One thing I found with the 3.1 upgrade was to clear the .kde directory
first.

Tony.

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Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Test


Dennis Myers wrote:

>On Sunday 16 February 2003 12:37 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
>  
>
>>On Sunday 16 Feb 2003 5:32 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sunday 16 February 2003 02:56 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
>>>  
>>>
getting nowhere


>>>Well Dennis, I read you loud and clear :-)
>>>  
>>>
>>What's more we got another test earlier
>>
>>Anne
>>
>>
>Yea sorry about that. My setup went over a cliff on me and I was going
a bit 
>bonkers myself.  KDE and LM9.0 weren't playing well together and I just
kept 
>making it worse. I'm back to ML9.0 and KDE3.0.  Tried testing 9.1b3
since 
>everything  else was messed up and could not get that thing to complete
a 
>installation. Bad Day.
>  
>
>  
>
Don't feel bad about it Dennise, it took me 3 attempts to get M91beta3 
on as a dual linux
bootup, but now I'm actually got this urpmi udate on a cooker going, all
be it painfully
slow, as I don't seem able to get the wget part of it to reconnect after
my lousy isp has
cut me off for the umpteenth time, so I have to restart manually with
 urpmi --auto-select wget -c  , but as I say wget does not restart where
urpmi update left
off updating.

John

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[newbie] Odd network behavior - HELP!!!

2003-02-17 Thread Ron Bouwhuis
All,

Using MDK 9.0 and trying to get internet connection
going through an ADSL USB modem.  Using eciadsl
package and seems to work OK - to a point.  Something
very screwy is happening.  I can ping, but only sort
of.  

For example, I seem to be ablt to ping to xx.yy.zz.aa
type addresses, though sometimes get .  However, with
written addresses, it SOMETIMES works, but often not. 
Here's an example:

[root@Auckland etc]# ping www.rosenet.ne.jp
ping: unknown host www.rosenet.ne.jp
[root@Auckland etc]# ping www.rosenet.ne.jp
PING catv01.rosenet.ne.jp (210.230.70.2) from
203.173.243.231 : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from catv01.rosenet.ne.jp (210.230.70.2):
icmp_seq=1 ttl=239 time=266 ms
64 bytes from catv01.rosenet.ne.jp (210.230.70.2):
icmp_seq=2 ttl=239 time=260 ms
64 bytes from catv01.rosenet.ne.jp (210.230.70.2):
icmp_seq=3 ttl=239 time=259 ms
64 bytes from catv01.rosenet.ne.jp (210.230.70.2):
icmp_seq=4 ttl=239 time=259 ms
64 bytes from catv01.rosenet.ne.jp (210.230.70.2):
icmp_seq=5 ttl=239 time=259 ms

--- catv01.rosenet.ne.jp ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% loss, time
5056ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 259.161/260.746/266.239/2.511
ms

You can see the first two times I got unknown host,
but the third time it worked.  Nothing was done
between attempts other than up arrow and enter in
bash!  All three attempts within 1 minute.  Why work
the third time???

Here's the contents of host.conf and resolv.conf:

[root@Auckland etc]# cat host.conf
order hosts,bind
multi on
[root@Auckland etc]# cat resolv.conf
# ppp temp entry
nameserver 203.109.252.42 # ppp temp entry
nameserver 203.109.252.43 # ppp temp entry

I don't know if they are right, but I do know that the
entries in resolv.conf are the DNS servers supplied by
my ISP through DHCP.

My route table looked odd at first, until I figured
that the hyphenated IP address was probably just the
name.  Here are two views of the route table that show
what I mean:


[root@Auckland etc]# route -e
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags 
 MSS Window  irtt Iface
203-173-243-254 *   255.255.255.255 UH
  40 0  0 ppp0
192.168.0.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 
  40 0  0 eth0
127.0.0.0   *   255.0.0.0   U 
  40 0  0 lo
default 203-173-243-254 0.0.0.0 UG
  40 0  0 ppp0
[root@Auckland etc]# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags
Metric RefUse Iface
203.173.243.254 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH   
0  00 ppp0
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U
0  00 eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U
0  00 lo
0.0.0.0 203.173.243.254 0.0.0.0 UG   
0  00 ppp0

Not sure what the UH and UG flags mean.  Actually,
don't know much about routing at all, so if anything
looks odd, please tell me.

Finally, here's the output from ifconfig.  Not sure if
the 255.255.255.255 netmask is correct for ppp0, but
that's what set up by DHCP from the ISP.  It's the
same in Windows that that seems to work OK.  

[root@Auckland etc]# ifconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr
00:90:CC:12:D2:64
  inet addr:192.168.0.2  Bcast:192.168.0.255 
Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500 
Metric:1
  RX packets:32926 errors:0 dropped:0
overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:38633 errors:0 dropped:0
overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:29 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:16790046 (16.0 Mb)  TX
bytes:6766294 (6.4 Mb)
  Interrupt:3 Base address:0x300

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:5910 errors:0 dropped:0
overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:5910 errors:0 dropped:0
overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:1949959 (1.8 Mb)  TX bytes:1949959
(1.8 Mb)

ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
  inet addr:203.173.243.231 
P-t-P:203.173.243.254  Mask:255.255.255.255
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST 
MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:3 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
frame:0
  TX packets:3 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
  RX bytes:54 (54.0 b)  TX bytes:54 (54.0 b)


Please help - this is driving me crazy and I can't
figure out why ping and DNS lookup SOMETIMES work.  Of
course, from a web browser I can't connect to anything
at all - just get a host timeout error.  I've been
forced to use W2K as my internet connection sharing
box - and I'm convinced I've already been subject to
attack from the big bad web the very first day!!!

Regards and sorry for the long post,
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[newbie] problems with non-US keyboard

2003-02-17 Thread p s
I'd like to use some central-european characters.
I used the install CDs to "upgrade", this time using
my language (Slovak - I guess it is inessential)
instead of English, and it worked. But suddenly it
stopped (I guess after I ran texconfig to add
hyphenation to latex). When I log as root and start
KDE, it still works, so the problem must be in some
hidden file in my home folder. But I have no idea
which file. Do you know? (I suppose it's somewhere in
.kde, since it concerns only kde editors; gedit works
the same way for me and for root.)

Besides, I'd be happy to be able to use slovak
keyboard without having to choose slovak as my
language (e.g. just by installing locales-sk, and
changing the corresponding file in /etc/sysconfig to
load latin2 composit characters). The problem is that
when I choose slovak as my language during
installation, kde is horribly strange and unstable
(don't have any idea why). It is not so bad, when I
first choose english and then upgrade to slovak, but
still is't a bit strange.

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Re: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand

2003-02-17 Thread Dennis & Sue
Personally, I agree with the french. More inspectors are necessary.
And Mr. Bush, although has not publicly announced his agreement, None the less  
continues to demonstrate it by sending more and more "inspectors" to iraq.
Within 30 days, There will be approximately 250,000 " inspectors" milling 
through iraq unfettered as they look under every rock, and into every 
crevice.
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[newbie] suggestion to mdk developers

2003-02-17 Thread Jozef Riha
when i click on removable media icon selecting unmount or eject but the 
media is still in use and it cannot be unmounted/ejected the new window 
apears with information about Device in use. that's just fine but there 
should be like /sbin/fuser -v /dev/scd0 and it should list processes 
which are "bothering" cdrom or it could even give an option to kill 
these process(es).

many times mdk-newbie doesn't have a clue about fuser program and would 
simply like to get the cd out of the drive. maybe this is more windows 
like approach, but what's bad about it??

please, write what you think about this and eventually how to let mdk 
developers know.

thanks. cheers,

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Re: [newbie] Re: Fortran compiler

2003-02-17 Thread civileme
On Sunday 16 February 2003 11:53 pm, laura wrote:
> I'm new in Linux. Before asking, I tried to use g77 or f77, but I don't
> have them on the computer. I have the gcc installed and I can compile C
> programs without problems, but I can't compile Fortran programs. I only
> wanted to know where I can find this compiler.
>
> Laura.
>
> Jerry Barton escriu:
> > On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 07:30:50 GMT
> >
> > "laura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I want to install a Fortran compiler. Where can I find one of them?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Laura.
> >
> > gcc-g77
> >
> > from software installer:
> >
> > Name: gcc-g77
> > Version: 3.2-1mdk
> > Size: 3746 KB
> >
> > Summary: Fortran 77 support for gcc
> >
> > Description: This package adds support for compiling Fortran 77 programs
> > with the GNU compiler.
> >
> > If you have multiple versions of GCC installed on your system, it is
> > preferred to type "g77-$(gcc3.2-version)" (without double quotes) in
> > order to use the GNU Fortran 77 compiler version 3.2.
> >
> > Files:
> > /usr/bin/f77
> > /usr/bin/g77
> > /usr/bin/g77-3.2
> > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/f771
> > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/include/g2c.h
> > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/libfrtbegin.a
> > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/libg2c.a
> > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/libg2c.so
> > /usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2
> > /usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2/ChangeLog.0.f
> > /usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2/ChangeLog.f
> > /usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2/ChangeLog.libf2c
> > /usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2/README
> > /usr/share/man/man1/g77.1.bz2
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IF you installed linuxfrom Mandrake CDs. put CD 1 in and boot, selecting 
"expert" and "Upgrade".  At package selection time, go for individual package 
selections and DO NOT NEGLECT all the wonderful compilers in the flat list, 
plus a c interpreter.

Cim--Simula
Smalltalk
hugs--Glasgow Haskell
gcc-g77
gcc-gnat (ADA by another name)
p2c -- one form of pascal  (there is another)

And when you are done with those then go here:

ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/contrib/RPMS

and you will find bigForth, f2c (fortran to C translator which can be piped 
into a compile), ftnchek (like "lint" for Fortran), and several development 
programs for lam (Local area Multicomputer which cause compiled programs to 
be run distributed over several computers).  You download the rpms and then 
install them from the command line su'ed to root with rpm -ivh, and at the 
same time you learn about the rpm packaging system and "dependencies"

There are interpreters which should not be overlooked since many of then rival 
compiled programs for speed, particularly Perl, Python, and Ruby, but you 
might want to Google for Pike.

There are also several commercial packages.  A very cursory search reveals 
these

http://www.nikhef.nl/~templon/fortran.html  -- links to many sites open source 
or commercial.

There you will find f77, f90, f95 and F (a subset which discards some things 
from f77 such as EQUIVALENCE) as well as several HPF/HPF 2.0 packages and 
comparisons of users experiences with several.  pg77 is there, too, which 
produces Pentium-class code from fortran77 programs.

Civileme

I grew up with Fortran, back in the days when there were compilers such as 
Fortran-IV, Fortran-G, Fortran-H, Fortran-IV with Watfor and WatFIV...  It is 
still an interesting compiler and language, but these days I use almost 
exclusively Python because I am a bd habit programmer and I need 
something that forces me to code cleanly and clearly, even at the expense of 
features.


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Re: [newbie] Test

2003-02-17 Thread John Richard Smith
Dennis Myers wrote:


On Sunday 16 February 2003 12:37 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 

On Sunday 16 Feb 2003 5:32 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
   

On Sunday 16 February 2003 02:56 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
 

getting nowhere
   

Well Dennis, I read you loud and clear :-)
 

What's more we got another test earlier

Anne
   

Yea sorry about that. My setup went over a cliff on me and I was going a bit 
bonkers myself.  KDE and LM9.0 weren't playing well together and I just kept 
making it worse. I'm back to ML9.0 and KDE3.0.  Tried testing 9.1b3 since 
everything  else was messed up and could not get that thing to complete a 
installation. Bad Day.
 

 

Don't feel bad about it Dennise, it took me 3 attempts to get M91beta3 
on as a dual linux
bootup, but now I'm actually got this urpmi udate on a cooker going, all 
be it painfully
slow, as I don't seem able to get the wget part of it to reconnect after 
my lousy isp has
cut me off for the umpteenth time, so I have to restart manually with
urpmi --auto-select wget -c  , but as I say wget does not restart where 
urpmi update left
off updating.

John

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Re: [newbie] Re: Fortran compiler

2003-02-17 Thread Aaron
try
urpmi f2c-20001107-4mdk.i586.rpm
Aaron

On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 03:53, laura wrote:
> I'm new in Linux. Before asking, I tried to use g77 or f77, but I don't have 
> them on the computer. I have the gcc installed and I can compile C programs 
> without problems, but I can't compile Fortran programs. I only wanted to 
> know where I can find this compiler. 
> 
> Laura. 
> 
> 
> Jerry Barton escriu: 
> 
> > On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 07:30:50 GMT
> > "laura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > 
> >> Hi, 
> >> 
> >> I want to install a Fortran compiler. Where can I find one of them?  
> >> 
> >> Thanks.  
> >> 
> >> Laura. 
> >> 
> >> 
> > gcc-g77  
> > 
> > from software installer: 
> > 
> > Name: gcc-g77
> > Version: 3.2-1mdk
> > Size: 3746 KB 
> > 
> > Summary: Fortran 77 support for gcc 
> > 
> > Description: This package adds support for compiling Fortran 77 programs with the 
>GNU compiler. 
> > 
> > If you have multiple versions of GCC installed on your system, it is preferred to 
>type "g77-$(gcc3.2-version)" (without double quotes) in order to use the GNU Fortran 
>77 compiler version 3.2. 
> > 
> > Files:
> > /usr/bin/f77
> > /usr/bin/g77
> > /usr/bin/g77-3.2
> > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/f771
> > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/include/g2c.h
> > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/libfrtbegin.a
> > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/libg2c.a
> > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/libg2c.so
> > /usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2
> > /usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2/ChangeLog.0.f
> > /usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2/ChangeLog.f
> > /usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2/ChangeLog.libf2c
> > /usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2/README
> > /usr/share/man/man1/g77.1.bz2
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> > 
>  
> 
> 
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[newbie] Re: Fortran compiler

2003-02-17 Thread laura

I'm new in Linux. Before asking, I tried to use g77 or f77, but I don't have 
them on the computer. I have the gcc installed and I can compile C programs 
without problems, but I can't compile Fortran programs. I only wanted to 
know where I can find this compiler. 

Laura. 


Jerry Barton escriu: 

On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 07:30:50 GMT
"laura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

Hi, 

I want to install a Fortran compiler. Where can I find one of them?  

Thanks.  

Laura. 


gcc-g77  

from software installer: 

Name: gcc-g77
Version: 3.2-1mdk
Size: 3746 KB 

Summary: Fortran 77 support for gcc 

Description: This package adds support for compiling Fortran 77 programs with the GNU compiler. 

If you have multiple versions of GCC installed on your system, it is preferred to type "g77-$(gcc3.2-version)" (without double quotes) in order to use the GNU Fortran 77 compiler version 3.2. 

Files:
/usr/bin/f77
/usr/bin/g77
/usr/bin/g77-3.2
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/f771
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/include/g2c.h
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/libfrtbegin.a
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/libg2c.a
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/libg2c.so
/usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2
/usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2/ChangeLog.0.f
/usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2/ChangeLog.f
/usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2/ChangeLog.libf2c
/usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2/README
/usr/share/man/man1/g77.1.bz2
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RE: [newbie] Mdk 9.1 beta3 network problem

2003-02-17 Thread Tony S. Sykes
All,

I reinstalled beta 3 and it did not work again. Seems like there is a
bit of a problem with Realtek network cards. Mine is a RTL 8139 but
there is a guy on the cooker list with a RTL8129 with the same problem.
The route for the gateway is setup eth0 is there everything seems fine.
So it looks like this is a show stopper for beta 3 for me and anyone
else with a realtek card. Yes I have done the acpi=off and so had he. It
has been logged at bugzilla
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1566 so now it's wait and
see.

Tony.

-Original Message-
From: Greg Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Mdk 9.1 beta3 network problem


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On Thursday 13 February 2003 06:40 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I installed beta 3 last night on my system (formatted /, /usr and /var
> but kept /home), everything seems fine except for the internet
> connection. I have a realtek 8139 card. The mcc says the lan is up but
> not the internet (have to run mcc from command line as menu icon does
> not work). I had no probs with 9.0 and when I boot into windows the
> internet is there. I looked through cooker list last night and could
not
> find anything similar to my problem so I assume that it is a settings
> problem. Do I need to remove some of the hidden directories from my
home
> dir, and if so which ones, as I have a lot for programs I want to keep
> the settings for?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony.
>
>
Do you have a newer motherboard.  Some newer hardware, particularly
mobos with 
VIA chipsets, does not have acpi implemented properly in the kernel,
which 
causes what you are describing.

Try hitting the esc key when the LILO menu comes up and typing the
following 
at the prompt:

linux noapic acpi=off

and see if that solves the problem.

If it does, upgrade your beta 3 kernel to the latest one in Cooker and
see if 
that fixes the problem also.  It did for my machine.

/g
  

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Re: [newbie] Update database

2003-02-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 16 Feb 2003 8:46 am, Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > I thought I had set up a cron job (using webmin) to update
> > the database every night.  Indeed, I thought I had seen
> > indication that it had run, but today I have seen
> >
> > slocate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is
> > more than 8 days old
> >
> > How can I find what went wrong?  Could it be that I have
> > set it as a user and it needs to be root?
> >
> > Anne
>
> due to complaints that vigorous disk activity was occurring
> when a system was first booted up (anacron running jobs that
> were missed because the system was turned off), anacron was
> not installed by default as of 9.0.  install it and it'll
> begin working.
>
> urpmi anacron
>
> Anacron  can be used to execute commands periodically, with a
> frequency specified in days.  Unlike cron(8), it does not
> assume that the machine is running continuously.  Hence, it
> can be used on machines that aren't running 24 hours a day,
> to control daily, weekly, and monthly jobs that are usually
> controlled by cron.

Thanks, Alan, but the puzzle is that I *do* run 24/7.  I can't see why it 
should have been more than 8 days since it updated.  There was one night with 
a long power cut when the machine was down, but that's a one-off, and in any 
case I think it was over a week ago.

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Re: [newbie] Shorewall doing its job ?

2003-02-17 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Monday 17 February 2003 04:16 am, civileme wrote:
> On Sunday 16 February 2003 02:18 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> > When doing a dmesg I get all the usual stuff, but
> > lately a new thing - at least to me - is showing up.
> > The last stanzas grow bigger and bigger and reads a
> > lot like this :
> >
> > 
> > Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
> > MAC=00:50:ba:c6:65:6a:00:08:a4:cb:f0:38:08:00
> > SRC=80.192.8.112
> > DST=80.198.60.128 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=114
> > ID=56266 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=3147 DPT=1214
> > WINDOW=64240 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
> > Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
> > MAC=00:50:ba:c6:65:6a:00:08:a4:cb:f0:38:08:00
> > SRC=217.235.136.240 DST=80.198.60.128 LEN=48 TOS=0x00
> > PREC=0x00 TTL=117 ID=53207 DF PROTO=TCP
> > SPT=24207 DPT=1214 WINDOW=16384 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
> > Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
> > MAC=00:50:ba:c6:65:6a:00:08:a4:cb:f0:38:08:00
> > SRC=217.235.136.240 DST=80.198.60.128 LEN=48 TOS=0x00
> > PREC=0x00 TTL=117 ID=53220 DF PROTO=TCP
> > SPT=24207 DPT=1214 WINDOW=16384 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
> > Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
> > MAC=00:50:ba:c6:65:6a:00:08:a4:cb:f0:38:08:00
> > SRC=217.235.136.240 DST=80.198.60.128 LEN=48 TOS=0x00
> > PREC=0x00 TTL=117 ID=53257 DF PROTO=TCP
> > SPT=24207 DPT=1214 WINDOW=16384 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
> > 
> >
> > To me it seems like shorewall is stopping someone -
> > actually a lot  -  trying to do a portscan on me. Now,
> > when I do a *whois* on all those URL's it seems that I
> > get both decent ISP's as well as more clandestine
> > ones.
> >
> > What's going on ? - Can someone decipher this ?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Kaj Haulrich.
> > ===
> > Powered by Linux- Mandrake
> > 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at
> > http://counter.li.org Source :  my 100 %
> > Microsoft-free personal computer.
> > ===
>
> Most likely that is a portscan with decoys.  Shorewall
> is good enough to catch a SYN scan apparently, with a
> little help from kernel 2.4/iptables...  I don't much
> like the scanner with the WINDOW numbers it is putting
> out  ... Way too big for most communications except an
> upload/download and too small to block a man-in-middle..
>  TCP is a 3-way handshake which can be desynched by a
> clever attacker,,,  but that is another story.
>
> You might try listening at other IP addresses in your
> subnet to see if this joker is scanning your whole
> subnet--but the DPTis always 1214?

Yes, invariably.

> I am showing some similar SYN/RST stuff but hitting
> ports 443, 1080, 1433, 2852
> 2852 is a port used by some popular windows trojans
> 1433 is MSSQL so that's probably slammer
> 1080 is socks proxy  (yep another WINexploit port)
> 443 might be respectable or it might be slapper

I don't see those ports listed in dmesg.

> 1214 is KaZaa file sharing but the Lirva Virus is trying
> to spread via KaZaa as well as by many other methods
> (and Lirva is NASTY in its payload, deactivating
> antivirus scanners and emailing all the passwords
> windows stores to one of two hardwired addresses in
> Kazakhstan,)  I think you probably encountered a Lirva
> scan as it has been internet active lately, choking many
> mailservers with crap, courtesy of Windows, Outlook,
> MSIE, mIRC, ICQ (windows client) IIS, and KaZaa.
>
>
> Civileme

So I think it's Lirva bouncing it's head against my 
shorewall. Nothing to worry about on a linux-box.
Is it worth the effort to alert those ISPs like they seem 
to imply in their *abuse* messages ?

As always : thanks, Civileme.

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Re: [newbie] Fortran compiler

2003-02-17 Thread Jerry Barton
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 07:30:50 GMT
"laura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I want to install a Fortran compiler. Where can I find one of them? 
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Laura.
> 
> 
gcc-g77 

from software installer:

Name: gcc-g77
Version: 3.2-1mdk
Size: 3746 KB

Summary: Fortran 77 support for gcc

Description: This package adds support for compiling Fortran 77 programs with the GNU 
compiler.

If you have multiple versions of GCC installed on your system, it is preferred to type 
"g77-$(gcc3.2-version)" (without double quotes) in order to use the GNU Fortran 77 
compiler version 3.2.

Files:
/usr/bin/f77
/usr/bin/g77
/usr/bin/g77-3.2
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/f771
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/include/g2c.h
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/libfrtbegin.a
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/libg2c.a
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu/3.2/libg2c.so
/usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2
/usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2/ChangeLog.0.f
/usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2/ChangeLog.f
/usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2/ChangeLog.libf2c
/usr/share/doc/gcc-g77-3.2/README
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