Re: [newbie] Thanks for help with Mozilla

2005-01-27 Thread Julie Sloan
Kaj Haulrich wrote:
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 21:28, Julie Sloan wrote:
Thanks to everyone who helped with my recent Mozilla problem
(under the header locked directory).
big snip 

Congratulation, Julie.  -- Just a few remarks :
You did the whole process as root, which isn't necessary.  You can 
download it anywhere and untar it as a normal, unprivileged user.  
Only the final step, running the actual install script should be 
done as root if you want all users on the system to use mozilla.

Thanks Kaj, I didn't know that.  I thought I had to be root for it to 
work for all users.

Julie  :)
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Re: [newbie] Connecting a Linux computer to a MS Windows network

2005-01-27 Thread Paul Smith
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:35:24 -0500, Bryan Phinney
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is it straightforward to connect a Linux computer to a MS Windows
  network, allowing this Linux computer to have access to shared disks
  and printers on the MS Windows? If so, where to get information how to
  do that?
 
 Paul, certainly not to nitpick but you probably need to give a little more
 info about what kind of Windows network you want to attach to.  Domain level
 security is very different than connecting to a simple windows share network
 and Active Directory increases the complexity.
 
 Also, it is important to specify if you are the Admin of the Windows network
 in question and also if you have either permission or cooperation from said
 admin if you are not it.

Bryan,

In truth, my post was motivated by the fact that I would like to
convince the system administrator at my work that there is no
significant reason to not connect Linux computers to the MS Windows
network. He said that he has heard some people claiming that samba has
some problems with achieving the goal of having Linux computers
running inside a MS Windows network.

Thanks to you and to Derek for the information given to me.

Regards,

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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-27 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Thursday 27 Jan 2005 06:47, Mike Chalmers wrote:
 Derek,

 I clicked on the link you posted for the 2.6.8 kernel. I then clicked on
 the file kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and the download box
 appeared. It gave me the option to Open with the default application
 (Software Installer). Is that what I should click on?

Yes - Software Installer is a gui front-end for urpmi

 Also, I don't think urpmi is installed on my computer. When I check for it
 there is urpmq and urpmf. How do I get urpmi installed on the computer?
 Thnks.

Urpmq and urpmf are part of urpmi.  Don't worry about that.  To understand 
better what's happening, go to 
http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/UsingUrpmi which describes the 
command-line possibilities and what they do.  You can easily add and remove 
software with the gui (which is in Mandrake Control Center) but the command 
line gives you a lot more possibilities.  HTH

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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-27 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 27 January 2005 06:47, Mike Chalmers wrote:
SNIP

 I clicked on the link you posted for the 2.6.8 kernel. I then clicked on
 the file kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and the download box
 appeared. It gave me the option to Open with the default application
 (Software Installer). Is that what I should click on?

Yes

 Also, I don't think urpmi is installed on my computer. When I check for it
 there is urpmq and urpmf. How do I get urpmi installed on the computer?
 Thnks.

 Mike Chalmers

In Linux all system commands are only available to the system administrator 
(root user). We call this 'security'. A word that will be unfamiliar to 
anyone coming from a Windows environment ;-)

When you use the graphical software installer it will prompt you for the root 
password so it can invoke urpmi on your behalf.
When using urpmi on the command line you must become root user first with the 
command 'su' (SuperUser).

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[newbie] ATI Drivers :- Was need help patching kernel

2005-01-27 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 27 January 2005 06:47, Mike Chalmers wrote:
HUGE SNIP

Mike I have deliberately 'hijacked' this thread because, I think you may be 
losing sight of what you are trying to achieve.
This thread was started because your ATI Radeon video card was running very 
slowly and you hoped a new kernel might improve it.

I did point out that there are proprietary ATI drivers for Radeon cards that 
will not be present in **any** kernel you obtain from Mandrake or kernel.org

You can apply the ATI drivers to your current kernel by getting the drivers 
from ATI directly, but to make things easier Mandrake have already compiled 
drivers and make them available through Mandrake Club.

Perhaps an ATI user could comment and tell Mike how to get the correct drivers 
working either on his existing Mandrake 10.0, or on 10.1?

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[newbie] images in emails

2005-01-27 Thread Dave Needham
when downloading and reading emails ive noticed that the pictures or images 
dont load up.is ther something im missing {softwware}
im using kontact to recive emails on mandrake 10.1.
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[newbie] media manager

2005-01-27 Thread Dave Needham

-- in media manager ive noticed that i have 4 catogories
borgnet
installation dvd
updates
main
is this all i need or do i need to add anything else.not shore how to use it 
properly...


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Re: [newbie] images in emails

2005-01-27 Thread Charles Lee Ying
Dave Needham wrote:
when downloading and reading emails ive noticed that the pictures or images 
dont load up.is ther something im missing {softwware}
im using kontact to recive emails on mandrake 10.1.
 



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default behavior of most e-mail clients these days, attacks have been 
known to come thru images loaded from remote servers that are used in an 
e-mail.

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Re: [newbie] images in emails

2005-01-27 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Thursday 27 Jan 2005 10:49, Dave Needham wrote:
 when downloading and reading emails ive noticed that the pictures or images
 dont load up.is ther something im missing {softwware}
 im using kontact to recive emails on mandrake 10.1.

If you mean what I think you mean, try View  attachments.  Many of us prefer 
to keep attachments as icons so that they can be viewed with a click or 
ignored if not relevant to us.  Personally, I prefer to have the choice of 
viewing, saving or ditching if it doesn't look right to me.

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Re: [newbie] media manager

2005-01-27 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Thursday 27 Jan 2005 10:53, Dave Needham wrote:
 -- in media manager ive noticed that i have 4 catogories
 borgnet
 installation dvd
 updates
 main
 is this all i need or do i need to add anything else.not shore how to use
 it properly...

Get contrib - this is where not-entirely-free or commercial drivers are 
available, together with other software.  I'd also recommend getting plf 
(software whose licensing is incompatible with MandrakeSoft's policy) and 
also go to www.eslrahc.com and follow instructions on his page to get 
Charles' contributions, which are often more up-to-date than the official 
versions.

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RE: [newbie] ATI Drivers :- Was need help patching kernel

2005-01-27 Thread Mike Chalmers

From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: [newbie] ATI Drivers :-  Was  need help patching kernel
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:48:55 +
On Thursday 27 January 2005 06:47, Mike Chalmers wrote:
HUGE SNIP
Mike I have deliberately 'hijacked' this thread because, I think you may be
losing sight of what you are trying to achieve.
This thread was started because your ATI Radeon video card was running very
slowly and you hoped a new kernel might improve it.
I did point out that there are proprietary ATI drivers for Radeon cards 
that
will not be present in **any** kernel you obtain from Mandrake or 
kernel.org

You can apply the ATI drivers to your current kernel by getting the drivers
from ATI directly, but to make things easier Mandrake have already compiled
drivers and make them available through Mandrake Club.
Perhaps an ATI user could comment and tell Mike how to get the correct 
drivers
working either on his existing Mandrake 10.0, or on 10.1?

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The ones I have installed numerous times are the ATI Linux drivers from ATI. 
They didn't work so that is why I am trying to update the kernel. Thnks.

 From,

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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-27 Thread Mike Chalmers

From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:20:13 +
On Thursday 27 January 2005 06:47, Mike Chalmers wrote:
SNIP

 I clicked on the link you posted for the 2.6.8 kernel. I then clicked on
 the file kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm and the download box
 appeared. It gave me the option to Open with the default application
 (Software Installer). Is that what I should click on?

Yes
 Also, I don't think urpmi is installed on my computer. When I check for 
it
 there is urpmq and urpmf. How do I get urpmi installed on the computer?
 Thnks.

 Mike Chalmers

In Linux all system commands are only available to the system administrator
(root user). We call this 'security'. A word that will be unfamiliar to
anyone coming from a Windows environment ;-)
When you use the graphical software installer it will prompt you for the 
root
password so it can invoke urpmi on your behalf.
When using urpmi on the command line you must become root user first with 
the
command 'su' (SuperUser).

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Thank you both. I went to the web site
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/ 
, that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 kernel's 
and I get this message-

Some package requested cannot be installed:
kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[= 
1.9])
do you agree ?

I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So I 
do not know what to do?


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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-27 Thread Derek Jennings
On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote:

 Thank you both. I went to the web site
 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/
 , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 kernel's
 and I get this message-

 Some package requested cannot be installed:
 kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[=
 1.9])
 do you agree ?


 I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So I
 do not know what to do?


  From,

   Mike Chalmers

This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other packages.
This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in the two 
releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not 
recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will very 
likely demand other packages ad infinitum.

So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to either 
compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1

BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. Your 2.6.3 
kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu.
You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI.

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Re: [newbie] Hope for mandrake 10.2 include QT 3.3.4

2005-01-27 Thread Lanman
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 08:48 pm, Teddy Widhi wrote:
Hi,
I wish on the next release of Mandrake 10.2 including QT 3.3.4. its
the bug fix and backward compatibility for QT 3.3.x.
Ok Thank you.
Then you should post this message to cooker where the devs hang out, not in 
newbie where the, well, newbie's hang out.  ;)
Hey Greg! Speak for yourself, eh? There's nothing on me that's Hangin' 
Outand I suspect that this is also true for most of the list members! I 
keep it ALL nicely tucked in, OK?

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Re: [newbie] Hope for mandrake 10.2 include QT 3.3.4

2005-01-27 Thread Aron Smith
On Thursday 27 January 2005 06:10 am, Lanman wrote:
 Greg Meyer wrote:
  On Wednesday 26 January 2005 08:48 pm, Teddy Widhi wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I wish on the next release of Mandrake 10.2 including QT 3.3.4. its
 the bug fix and backward compatibility for QT 3.3.x.
 Ok Thank you.
 
  Then you should post this message to cooker where the devs hang out, not
  in newbie where the, well, newbie's hang out.  ;)

 Hey Greg! Speak for yourself, eh? There's nothing on me that's Hangin'
 Outand I suspect that this is also true for most of the list members! I
 keep it ALL nicely tucked in, OK?
I used to hang out..but the ladies all laughed at me

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[newbie] Linux, Wine and viruses

2005-01-27 Thread Anne Wilson
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Here's an amusing article:

http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/25/1430222

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[newbie] Installing a bootloader after the fact

2005-01-27 Thread Trey Sizemore
I installed Mandrake 10.1 via ftp on a second drive configured as a
slave.  It would be accessed in a multiboot environment using a boot
manager like GAG.  So I didn't install a boot loader thinking that GAG
would handle this.

But when GAG identifies the Mandrake / partition on this drive and I
attempt to boot from it, I get an error stating: Boot sector not found
or invalid.

So my question is, without reinstalling, can I go back and install a
boot loader on the / partition of the Mandrake install on the second
disk?

Thanks.

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Re: [newbie] Installing a bootloader after the fact

2005-01-27 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Thursday 27 Jan 2005 15:43, Trey Sizemore wrote:
 I installed Mandrake 10.1 via ftp on a second drive configured as a
 slave.  It would be accessed in a multiboot environment using a boot
 manager like GAG.  So I didn't install a boot loader thinking that GAG
 would handle this.

 But when GAG identifies the Mandrake / partition on this drive and I
 attempt to boot from it, I get an error stating: Boot sector not found
 or invalid.

 So my question is, without reinstalling, can I go back and install a
 boot loader on the / partition of the Mandrake install on the second
 disk?

The usual method for restoring a bootloader is to boot from CD1, and when the 
install/upgrade screen comes up hit Esc, then type 'rescue'.  From there you 
can use a menu entry to restore it.  I presume the same method would work for 
you.

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Re: [newbie] Hope for mandrake 10.2 include QT 3.3.4

2005-01-27 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Thursday 27 January 2005 08:30 am, Aron Smith wrote:
 On Thursday 27 January 2005 06:10 am, Lanman wrote:
  Greg Meyer wrote:
   On Wednesday 26 January 2005 08:48 pm, Teddy Widhi wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I wish on the next release of Mandrake 10.2 including QT
   3.3.4. its the bug fix and backward compatibility for QT
   3.3.x. Ok Thank you.
  
   Then you should post this message to cooker where the devs
   hang out, not in newbie where the, well, newbie's hang out.
;)
 
  Hey Greg! Speak for yourself, eh? There's nothing on me
  that's Hangin' Outand I suspect that this is also true for
  most of the list members! I keep it ALL nicely tucked in, OK?

 I used to hang out..but the ladies all laughed at me

  Grin! Snicker!

 Jeez, why not just answer the man's question?
qt 3.3.4 is already in 10.2

 ~ $ cat /etc/mandrake-release
Mandrakelinux release 10.2 (Cooker) for i586

~ $ frpm qt3
libqt3-devel-3.3.4-2mdk
qt3-example-3.3.4-2mdk
libqt3-3.3.4-2mdk
qt3-common-3.3.4-2mdk

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[newbie] Easiest way to transfer files from lin to win?

2005-01-27 Thread JR
I need to transfer about 15GB of data from my linux laptop to a windows 
laptop. We will both be on the same wireless network, but I dont actually 
know anything about file transfer on linux or windows!

Are there any quick pointers someone can give me to look into?

Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] Easiest way to transfer files from lin to win?

2005-01-27 Thread Paul Greene
Most linux installs now include an SSH server by default. If you get an 
SSH client installed on your Windows laptop, you can use secure file 
transfer between the two laptops.

www.ssh.com has a Windows based, free for non-commercial use, SSH client 
with an easy to use GUI interface. Then it's just like using a GUI based 
FTP program to download/upload files back and forth.

Paul
JR wrote:
I need to transfer about 15GB of data from my linux laptop to a windows 
laptop. We will both be on the same wireless network, but I dont actually 
know anything about file transfer on linux or windows!

Are there any quick pointers someone can give me to look into?
Thanks,
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Re: [newbie] Easiest way to transfer files from lin to win?

2005-01-27 Thread Anders Lind
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:54:07 -0500
Paul Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Most linux installs now include an SSH server by default. If you get
 an  SSH client installed on your Windows laptop, you can use secure
 file  transfer between the two laptops.
 
 www.ssh.com has a Windows based, free for non-commercial use, SSH
 client  with an easy to use GUI interface. Then it's just like using a
 GUI based  FTP program to download/upload files back and forth.
 
 Paul


Otherwise a FTP-client would work as well or Putty

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Re: [newbie] Easiest way to transfer files from lin to win?

2005-01-27 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
JR wrote:
I need to transfer about 15GB of data from my linux laptop to a windows 
laptop. We will both be on the same wireless network, but I dont actually 
know anything about file transfer on linux or windows!

Are there any quick pointers someone can give me to look into?
Thanks,
Jarlath
 

 

You could set up Samba, a FTP server, a web server, or SSH on the Linux 
box. Samba is probably the easyest from as far as the actual transfere. 
One you have the Samba server up and running, you simply map the share 
containing the files on the Windows machine. You can then use drag and 
drop or any other windows copy feature on the Windows machine. If you 
set up an FTP server or a web server on the Linux box, you can use a web 
browser to download the files. This can be a pain if you have a lot of 
small files. (Not too bad using a windows ftp client...)

You can use a ssh client on Windows and the ssh daemon on Linux, and 
copy files that way. I like PUtty for this. (Google can find the home 
page.) If you go this route, you will want to use sftp (psftp) to 
transfere files. It is basicly ftp over a secure connection.

All the tools to do this on the Linux side are included with Mandrake. 
SSH probably takes the least amount of setup, but takes more work to do 
the actual transfere. Samba will take a bit more setup, but is probably 
worth the effort if you will need to copy files in the future. MCC will 
take you through the basic setup.

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Re: [newbie] Re: Re: upgrade 8.2 to 10.1: Error, some other host already uses address 127.0.0.1.

2005-01-27 Thread Siposs Attila
2005. janur 27. 00.55 dtummal Mikkel L. Ellertson ezt rta:
 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  It would appear that on Jan 24, Mikkel L. Ellertson did say:
  I would like to see the output of route -n and ifconfig and
  ifconfig -a.
  Something is definitly strange here.
 
  Mikkel
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# route -n
  Kernel IP routing table
  Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
  Iface
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ifconfig
  loLink encap:Local Loopback
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
   RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ifconfig -a
  loLink encap:Local Loopback
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
   RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
 
 
  Does that help???

 Well, I can see the direct cause of the problem, but not the underlying
 cause. For some reasion the lo interface is not comming up. Now to find
 out why...

 The next step would be to look at /etc/hosts, and
 /etc/sysconfig/networking/cfg-lo and see if there is something strange
 there. (You may want to check to be sure
 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-lo is a link pointing to
 ../networking/ifcfg-lo.)

 Mikkel
it says, if you have problems, try another netmask...

# If you're having problems with gated making 127.0.0.0/8 a martian,
# you can change this to something else (255.255.255.255, for example)

maybe it could help.


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Re: [newbie] Latest security updates not listed

2005-01-27 Thread Dan Gordon
On January 26, 2005 09:55 pm, Chris wrote:

 Thanks Dan, I'll wait a few days then and try again.

I am seeing a whole bunch of updates today and even the much talked 
about new kernel yea :-)

Regards,
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[newbie] Powershell and $TERM

2005-01-27 Thread Miark
When I try to run MicroEMACS in Powershell, I get
Environment variable TERM not defined! So if I 
TERM=vt100 and then export TERM all is well. 
Unless I close and open it again, that is.

How do I make this change permanent without affecting
other working term emulators which I still use regularly?

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Re: [newbie] Powershell and $TERM

2005-01-27 Thread Paul
Op Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:00:09 -0500 schreef Miark:

How do I make this change permanent without affecting
other working term emulators which I still use regularly?

Through a script?

Paul

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[newbie] Le mot maudit - just a test

2005-01-27 Thread N. B. Day
Just a test to see if my posts aren't getting through because of
something in my new sig.  This one is clean.

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[newbie] Le mot maudit -- just a test

2005-01-27 Thread N. B. Day
Just a test to see if my posts aren't getting through because of
something in my sig.  This one has the sig.


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Re: [newbie] the easy way?

2005-01-27 Thread Ian
On Wednesday 26 Jan 2005 23:48, Derek Jennings wrote:
 On Wednesday 26 January 2005 23:10, Ian wrote:
  On Wednesday 26 Jan 2005 22:48, Derek Jennings wrote:
   On Wednesday 26 January 2005 22:43, Ian wrote:
Since the list is convinced that Home is better if it is in a
separate partition, what is the best and easiest way to accomplish
this. At present, Home is in the same partition as the rest of the
distro (standard install). How do I ensure if I move the contents of
Home to a new partition that all links will change?
  
   The easy way is simply to define your new /home partition with Mandrake
   Control Centre.
  
   It will recognise that there are already files in /home on the old
   partition and will offer to copy them to the new partition for you.
 
  I take it, the part that allows me to specify where home is in
  System/Users and groups? I'd really hate to screw up what is an extremely
  stable setup
 
  :-) But Mandrake will move release new distros and I'd also hate to make
  : an
 
  install harder...or even worse, lose all the data accumulated

 No
 Users and Groups is where you define new users.
 MandrakeControlCentreMountPointsPartitions is where you define
 partitions.

 If you have empty space on your hard drive just click on the empty space
 and define a partition on it. Select the mount point to be /home.

 If you have no free space you may resize an existing partition, but it is
 not possible to resize a partition that is currently already mounted. The
 GUI allows you to unmount a partition, but you cannot unmount a partition
 currently in use.

 If you have just a single partition consuming the whole drive then it is
 not easy to alter it unless you boot from  a Mandrakemove Live CD, or
 Knoppix if you prefer. (MandrakeMove will have the more familiar tools)

 If you have valuable data, then make a backup first.

 derek
Many thanks, Derek. my /home is now a new partition, and all worked well.
although I did cheat and used partition magic to create it, then as above :-)
Now to wait for 10.2 official .. 
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Re: [newbie] Removing KDE removes...everything?

2005-01-27 Thread JoeHill
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:56:35 -0500
JoeHill disseminated the following:

 I thought to myself, 'hey, I don't use KDE, why don't I just remove it?'.
 Well, according to MCC, that means uninstalling most of my system, including
 seemingly most of Gnome and it's associated lib's as well.
 
 WTF?

...just in case anyone was confused, this *is* actually a question, not just a
shot at KDE, though I have to say I'd be really annoyed to find that Mandrake
had so integrated everything with KDE that I can't have a working system without
it :-\

Anyone have any info on this?

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Re: [newbie] Hope for mandrake 10.2 include QT 3.3.4

2005-01-27 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 27 January 2005 09:10 am, Lanman wrote:
  Then you should post this message to cooker where the devs hang out, not
  in newbie where the, well, newbie's hang out.  ;)

 Hey Greg! Speak for yourself, eh? There's nothing on me that's Hangin'
 Outand I suspect that this is also true for most of the list members! I
 keep it ALL nicely tucked in, OK?

 Grin! Snicker!

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Re: [newbie] Connecting a Linux computer to a MS Windows network

2005-01-27 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 27 January 2005 04:27, Paul Smith wrote:

 In truth, my post was motivated by the fact that I would like to
 convince the system administrator at my work that there is no
 significant reason to not connect Linux computers to the MS Windows
 network. He said that he has heard some people claiming that samba has
 some problems with achieving the goal of having Linux computers
 running inside a MS Windows network.

Probably has heard that.  I hear it is a popular topic of conversation in the 
reeducation camp, I mean MS Developer Network.  

Well, let me run down the realities of this battle with you (Having been there 
done that and survived the glazed look of MS's stalwart evangelicals).  On 
the one hand, you have a competent System Administrator (Windows or not) in 
which case, he is aware of alternate operating systems, he is certainly aware 
that Linux has fewer security issues and problems, and he either knows enough 
to help and support you, or he knows enough to tell you that you are totally 
on your own, won't oppose you and will thank his lucky stars that he has one 
less goofball to support.  However, best guess is that if you had a Windows 
Admin like that, he is probably already running a few Linux boxen himself and 
would probably have been really happy to see another lonely face added to the 
club, share war stories and revel in liberation.

On the other hand, you are stuck with a full fledged graduate of the MS school 
of FUD, with MSCE and assorted other letters attached to his name, in which 
case, he couldn't find a power supply if his gonads were grounded to it, and 
he won't believe anything that you say anyway (cause it doesn't come straight 
from the mouth of Pope Gates or Cardinal Ballmer), in which case, there is 
pretty much nothing that you can do to convince him to even tolerate, much 
less help you put an alternate OS on his virused, wormed, swampy network.  
After all, if he let you do it, the other peons might get uppity and want to 
do it too and then next thing you know, he would have to learn something that 
doesn't involve dragging and clicking a mouse.

You have my sympathies.

Getting serious, the fact is, if you know what you are doing, you can put a 
Linux machine on a Windows network, regardless of what kind of MS crud they 
have put in place to stop you, without any problems.  Granted, you won't be 
able to attach to a Windows domain unless the admin adds you to the network, 
but connectivity with Windows virus factories is very overrated.  Between 
email and the Internet, there should be relatively no reason to connect 
directly to a windows machine or drive.  And, if you really have to, you can 
always dual boot, copy the files you need to the Win partition and then 
switch back and move them over to Linux.  Granted, waiting the eternity it 
takes for Win2k and such to boot up and shut down is a hassle, but I like to 
tell myself that it is good to have a semi-regular reminder of why I love 
Linux.  I almost guarantee that you can access network printers because in 
most companies, those will be attached via direct connect on an ethernet card 
in the printer, not running through a windows print server.  On those, you 
simply need to figure out what the IP address is, and then you are in 
business.  You don't call them for support, with problems, or ask them for 
any help and you will slip right under the zombie glaze of the MS undead.

Install a firewall and lock the ports down and Chuckles the MS Monkey won't 
even be able to tell what OS you are running when you connect to the net.  
Assuming that he is smart enough to figure that out without a blaring MS 
provided Alternate OS Detected siren wailing to clue him in.  I got away 
with it for 9 months straight until they noticed that I wasn't downloading my 
windows defects, I mean updates, and sent someone around to check on it. 

Luckily for me, the screensaver was up and I use a generic one so Goober 
didn't even know what OS I was running.  I booted back over to Windows, let 
it update and then switched right back to Linux.  After that, I told them 
that I had installed VMWare (for Testing purposes) and that it just looked 
like I had Linux installed.  With the McDonald's rejects that get hired for 
tech support these days, I am not too concerned that I am going to get 
outsmarted or called on it.

If you don't have the drive space, get Mandrake Move (Live CD) or one of the 
other varieties, put your config files on a small folder set aside for the 
purpose and boot directly from the CD.  If someone happens to come by, simply 
pull the plug, and complain that this is the 20th time today that Windows has 
crashed on your computer and I guarantee you won't see a tech around for 
another month.

Either way, where there is a will, there is certainly a way.  Just make sure 
that when everyone else's machine gets taken down by the latest worm or 
virus, that you don't keep working too hard and be sure to 

Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-27 Thread Mike Chalmers

From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:33:27 +
On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote:
 Thank you both. I went to the web site
 
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/
 , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8 
kernel's
 and I get this message-

 Some package requested cannot be installed:
 kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied bootloader-utils[=
 1.9])
 do you agree ?


 I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine. So 
I
 do not know what to do?


  From,

   Mike Chalmers

This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other packages.
This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in the 
two
releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not
recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will very
likely demand other packages ad infinitum.

So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to either
compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1
BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. Your 
2.6.3
kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu.
You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI.

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Alright, I installed Mandrake 10.1. Does it use XFree 86? If so what 
version? If not what does it use?


  From,

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Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel

2005-01-27 Thread Dennis Myers
On Thursday 27 January 2005 09:27 pm, Mike Chalmers wrote:
 From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
 To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
 Subject: Re: [newbie] need help patching kernel
 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:33:27 +
 
 On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:03, Mike Chalmers wrote:
   Thank you both. I went to the web site
 
 ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main
 /
 
   , that Derek recomended. I tried to install several of the 2.6.8
 
 kernel's
 
   and I get this message-
  
   Some package requested cannot be installed:
   kernel-2.6.8.1.12mdk-1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied
   bootloader-utils[= 1.9])
   do you agree ?
  
  
   I then tried to install one of the 2.4 kernels and it installed fine.
   So
 
 I
 
   do not know what to do?
  
  
From,
  
 Mike Chalmers
 
 This is what I meant when I said the kernel might require other packages.
 This kernel was built for Mandrake 10.1, and because of differences in the
 two
 releases it is asking for a package not available in 10.0. I would not
 recommend trying to install the bootloader-utils package. That will very
 likely demand other packages ad infinitum.
 
 So if you want a newer kernel, then I think you are restricted to either
 compiling your own, or upgrading to Mdk 10.1
 
 BTW: That 2.4 kernel you installed will now be your default kernel. Your
 2.6.3
 kernel will be an option in the Lilo menu.
 You can uninstall the kernel with the Software Uninstall GUI.
 
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 Alright, I installed Mandrake 10.1. Does it use XFree 86? If so what
 version? If not what does it use?


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that uses the original GNU license. XFree86 changed their license and made it 
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[newbie] environment variable manpath

2005-01-27 Thread Chris
When trying to read manpages with konqueror I get the following error:

KDE Man Viewer Error

No man page matching to man lilo found. You can extend the search path by 
setting the environment variable MANPATH before starting KDE.

I've tried googling for an answer, but can't seem to find the correct one.  
Could some kind soul point me in the right direction?

Thanks

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Re: [newbie] Powershell and $TERM

2005-01-27 Thread Miark
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:42:29 +0100, Paul wrote:

 Op Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:00:09 -0500 schreef Miark:
 
 How do I make this change permanent without affecting
 other working term emulators which I still use regularly?
 
 Through a script?

Got anything more specific? :-) My Perl is better than my bash,
so I tried to get the following Perl one-liner on every shell:

  $ENV{TERM} = xterm if `echo \$TERM` =~ m/dumb/i;

which works, but only as long as the script--a split second, and
then Powershell continues to run without TERM.

What's the proper way to do this with bash? (Although I am also
curious as to how to make this work in Perl, too.)

Miark


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Re: [newbie] Powershell and $TERM

2005-01-27 Thread Paul
Op Fri, 28 Jan 2005 00:45:25 -0500 schreef Miark:

 Through a script?

Got anything more specific? :-) My Perl is better than my bash,
so I tried to get the following Perl one-liner on every shell:

  $ENV{TERM} = xterm if `echo \$TERM` =~ m/dumb/i;

which works, but only as long as the script--a split second, and
then Powershell continues to run without TERM.

What's the proper way to do this with bash? (Although I am also
curious as to how to make this work in Perl, too.)

In a bash-script it would look like this:


TERM=vt100
MicroEMACS  # Insert proper command if this is wrong.


When this is together in the script, you do not need to export the TERM
variable, it will hold only for the session of that script.

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Re: [newbie] Powershell and $TERM

2005-01-27 Thread Miark
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 06:52:48 +0100, Paul wrote:

 Op Fri, 28 Jan 2005 00:45:25 -0500 schreef Miark:
 
  Through a script?
 
 Got anything more specific? :-) My Perl is better than my
 bash, so I tried to get the following Perl one-liner on every
 shell:
 
   $ENV{TERM} = xterm if `echo \$TERM` =~ m/dumb/i;
 
 which works, but only as long as the script--a split second,
 and then Powershell continues to run without TERM.
 
 What's the proper way to do this with bash? (Although I am
 also curious as to how to make this work in Perl, too.)
 
 In a bash-script it would look like this:
 
 
 TERM=vt100
 MicroEMACS  # Insert proper command if this is wrong.
 
 
 When this is together in the script, you do not need to export
 the TERM variable, it will hold only for the session of that
 script.

Ah, that's good. But there are other things that need it too,
such as less and god knows what else. Is there a way to export
the variable permanently?

Miark


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