Re: [newbie] Primary master hard disk fail
Dear All, I decided as a last resort to download the utility from Fujitsu and to check the drive. It failed the tests but not necessarily because it is permanently bad from what I could tell. I decided to get the utility also to do the low-level format. I am looking at my desktop and it says the format just finished successfully. What should be my next steps at this point? I do not want to install anything but LM8 on my machine. Any suggestions? Thanks. Sincerely, Marcia On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 09:23:00 +1200 skinky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Marcia I agree with Tazmun, you need to go the the drive manufacturers website and download the utility made specifically for your drive to do the low-level format. However, I would also search the manufacturer's site for a drive-testing utility and run the diagnostics test first. The test should tell you whether or not the drive is kaput and if so, as a last resort perfom the low-level format. As Civileme pointed out, low-level formats can totally finish off the drive. Good luck skinky - Original Message - From: tazmun [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip probably a long shot though. The low format utilities are not found in your bios, or at least I've never seen such a thing. I would suggest downloading the utilities offered by the hard drive manufacturer on line. The ones I've used are quite helpful and offer the proper low level format for your drive if necessary. They normally offer to help you make a bootable disk to boot on your floppy drive. The low level format is sometimes called the write test(specifically maxtor), but remember this wipes your drive completely clean and requires a fdisk and normal format afterwards. Sorry I don't know the Linux equivalents. I have had drives testing bad after a low level format test out ok. Depending on why the Tazmun _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Primary master hard disk fail
Dear Civilme, Thank you for the information. I have the Award Bios. How exactly do I do a low-level format? Thanks for the help. Sincerely, Marcia On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:07:25 + civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Monday 23 July 2001 19:30, Marcia L Waller wrote: Dear ALL, Thank you for the advice. I wonder about the possibility of correcting this hard drive problem. Oddly I can get my Northon Utilities 5.00 CD up and I am viewing things but I do not how to use Disk Editor. I am browsing with it but there do not seem to be extensive directions on how to use it. Is there anyway that I can reformat my disk either with Norton or using the HDD low level format in the BIOS? I have a feeling this hard drive is not dead but could have been hit with a virus? Strange characters show up with the boot up messages for hdb drive. I do not care about saving files at this point. I just want to be able to use my computer again and do a fresh install of LM8 again. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Sincerely, Marcia Low-level format will either fix the drive or break it totally. But if you have no retrievable data on it, it might extend the life of the drive by a little whiile while you start saving for a new drive. Civileme
Re: [newbie] Primary master hard disk fail
Thank you for your reply. I will try to find how to do the low-level format. If I do need a new hard drive what would be a good and inexpensive one that will handle Linux just fine? Thanks. Marcia On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:48:48 -0500 tazmun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there anyway that I can reformat my disk either with Norton or using the HDD low level format in the BIOS? I have a feeling this hard drive is not dead but could have been hit with a virus? Strange characters show up with the boot up messages for hdb drive. I do not care about saving files at this point. I just want to be able to use my computer again and do a fresh install of LM8 again. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Sincerely, Marcia I suspect that Civileme and the others are correct and this drive is toasted, but a couple of thoughts come to me to check possibly. Regarding a possible virus, it's possible if it was dual booting windoze, but unlikely if running only MD 8.0. I find that to cause failure to the point your describing even in windoze it would be unlikely. I have however saw the bios spit out some weird machine language before when running systems that are overclocked too far. Are you sure your bios is set right for the processor your running etc. If the onboard clock has not been keeping time correctly this is a hint towards a failing battery. If your battery died or is weak on the motherboard your bios would lose all the settings upon shutdown and a normal boot after would not be likely. The latter was probably a long shot though. The low format utilities are not found in your bios, or at least I've never seen such a thing. I would suggest downloading the utilities offered by the hard drive manufacturer on line. The ones I've used are quite helpful and offer the proper low level format for your drive if necessary. They normally offer to help you make a bootable disk to boot on your floppy drive. The low level format is sometimes called the write test(specifically maxtor), but remember this wipes your drive completely clean and requires a fdisk and normal format afterwards. Sorry I don't know the Linux equivalents. I have had drives testing bad after a low level format test out ok. Depending on why the drive got messed up it might be actually damaged and even though temporarily running right will not last for long. If this happened because of a local power outtage though I'd say the odds are in your favor of a complete permanent recovery. But worst case scenario...new hard drives are a better, cheaper buy then I've ever seen before! Tazmun
[newbie] Primary master hard disk fail
Dear All, I have had LM8 installed and running for awhile and tonight my screen went black so I rebooted and got a very unwelcome message during boot up-Primary master hard disk fail. I was sure I had made a boot disk when installing LM8 but now of course I cannot find it. I am freaking. I have no idea what I can do. Does anyone have any suggestions? I have 2 hard disks. The larger disk which has about 5 gigs is the one in trouble. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Also, I only have Linux on this machine.I tried rescuing from the CDrom but I do not know how to use the rescue. Sincerely, Marcia
Re: [newbie] hangs at Stage 1 after reinstall(7.2)
Dear All, I had remnants of Suse on my 2nd drive I believe and decided during the reinstall to delete that. ( I fdisked my 2nd drive yesterday). I did a fresh install and everything went fine so it said. In fact for the first time it actually recognized my network card during installation. After it said my installation was successful I rebooted and shortly after startup it went to stage 1 and just sat there. I reinstalled again and the same thing happened. Does anyone have any ideas. I suspect I goofed up on partitioning somehow. I have 2 harddrives and I was putting linux on the 1st and just leaving the 2nd cleared. What can I do now? I would like to add to this: my goal here is to have nothing but Linux Mandrake 7.2 on my machine. Suse seemed to mess things up for whatever reason so that is why I fdisked it away. What can I do to get my machine to accept Linux M 7.2? It took the install like a charm . Just would not boot up past stage 1. Do I need to fdisk/MBR? I cannot even get to a console now. Could I use the rescue disk for this? How does one use that in this situation (step by step)? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Marcia GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
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Dear All, I am trying to get on the internet again with Linux mandrake 7.2. I was on a few days ago until I installed Suse 7 and tried to do networking there which crashed my Linux mandrake 7.2. I then reinstalled my 7.2. I have not been able to get my internet going since. Everytime I check my eth0 config files I get a device or resource is busy. Linuxconf does not see my card and cannot load the module. I know this is because Suse stole the module, address, and or Irq. I thought the best antidote would be to use fdisk and get rid of Suse. I did that however the problem has not been resolved. All of my configuration files are set up (in LM 7.2) just as they were before Suse ruined it. What is the best remedy here? My goal is to just have Linux Mandrake 7.2 working great and on the internet again. I do not want Suse anymore. I definitely like Mandrake 7.2 better but wanted to try Suse because my mp3's would not play correctly in LM7.2 and the Hearts game shows no faces on the cards.Since my reinstall of LM7.2 my mp3's play great , but still no faces on Hearts. I can live with that as long as I get my internet back. I do have 2 IDE harddrives. Linux Mandrake 7.2 is on the first one or hda and Suse was on the second or hdb. Is there something I can do short of reformatting my drives and reinstalling Linux 7.2? Thanks for your assistance. Sincerely, Marcia GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: [newbie]
Dear Philomena, Linux M 7.2 was not sharing a partition with Suse 7. I have my 7.2 on my first drive which is over 6? gigs and I had Suse on my 2nd drive which is 2.5 gigs. I have deleted Suse with fdisk. I just cannot get onto the internet so far even with the same settings that got me on before (Linux 7.2). I imagine that Suse and LM 7.2 could coexist very harmoniously however I must have done something incorrectly. Yes, my card is listed and recognized in Harddrake but is not initialized. What next? Thanks for your help. Marcia GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: [newbie] re:vmware and Xfree86v.4
Dear Pat, That does help. I would like to try that instead of change my Xfree86v.4 back to 3.xx. I have everything downloaded now however not installed and working. Is this a difficult task? I am looking forward to trying this vmware. Thank you for your help. Marcia GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: [newbie] Modem's busy
Dear All, I installed Suse 7 a couple of days ago and it was sharing my computer with LinuxM7.2.Something I did in there made it impossible to boot back into Linux7.2. I had to reinstall Linux 7.2 Also, I made the mistake of trying to setup my internet in Suse and I think it stole my serial port or i/o or whatever because now I cannot get on the net with Linux7.2. I was on the net without a problem before with Linux 7.2. I have set up everything I can however it says my modem is busy and that there is no card found even though I have it set up as it was before in the /etc/modules.conf file and with linux conference. One benefit I got though is now my Mp'3 play great in LinuxM7.2 and they did not before. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am thinking of removing Suse and hopefully that will get my internet up in Linux7.2 again. What would be the best way to do this? Thank you very much for your help.Sincerely, Marcia GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: [newbie]7.2installation problem
Dear All, Thank you for the rapid response and help. Yes, I just needed to make the boot disk for 7.2 from Linux. It was very easy with your help. I am installing right now. The packages are being installed. Looks good so far.:) Thank you very very much. Sincerely, Marcia YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
[newbie] 7.2
Dear All, I am pleased with 7.2 as I mentioned before. I am getting things corrected and working in a few hours rather than months.:) Is StarOffice supplied with this distro? Where is Ktail? Unfortunately I lost my Hearts game in my 7 crash the other night as well as my napster clone. By the way my husband who liked the MIcrosoft Hearts really likes this Hearts for Linux. I do not remember where to get the Hearts and napster now. I believe I was using gnome napster which worked well for me. As soon as my 4000 plus emails come in I will get back on cable email. I do not know how I could get that many in 2 days. I think my cable service provider saved all of those from my previous crash and sent them back to me again. Thanks. Marcia YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: [newbie]7.2installation problem
Dear All, I am in the process of installing 7.2 over my LinuxMandrake 7. My computer only boots from floppies so I used the boot floppy from 7 to boot the 7.2 CD. It seemed to work until I got to the Hard drive detection . I got an error message that insmod'ing module ide-cd failed. What does this mean and what do I do next to install this? Thank you for your help. Marcia YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
[newbie] password for Netscape mail?
Dear Anyone, It has been a long haul and I am finally on cable internet with linux mandrake! One person in this newbie group helped me so much privately to get this going and I certainly appreciate it. I am in a hurry right now, but I will send info about the steps I had to take to get my SMC EZ ISA plug and play recognized and then finally actually on the net using Nestscape I have one problem, yet. My mail. I can send it out but when I tried to get my new mail Netscape asked for a password and I never supplied one for that and I do not know how to supply the password to retrieve my email. I used my passwords for my machine but they were not accepted. I am sure this has to be simple. If anyone knows the answer I will appreciate the help. Sincerely, Marcia YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
[newbie] Napster rpm?
Dear Anyone, Now that I am finally on cable internet with Linux I would like to get Napster going if possible. Is there a napster software for linux that is rpm? I saw one that is a tar file but I have had no luck with understanding tar yet. Thank you, Marcia YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
[newbie]error message
Dear Anyone, I have been doing alot with trying to get my ethernet SMC EZ card ISA 1660T to work. A very helpful person has been helping me along, however I think I made a goof somewhere. I edited the /etc/conf.module files to work with my nic card and I think I goofed in there. After that my zip drive no longer works and I did a modprobe -a today and got the error message: conf:1 unknown keyword "Alias". When I try to mount my zip I get the error message that /dev/hdc4 has wrong major or minor number. Does anyone have any ideas about this? Your help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Marcia YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
[newbie] internet with cable?
Dear Anyone, I am very confused. It looks like I have my SMC EZ ethernet card setup maybe but nothing happening yet. I checked one of the log files and it said device or resource busy. I have checked about every file I could such as proc/interrupts, conference modules,etc. I do not know if things look right or not because I do not understand that much of it. Is there anyway to print out these files? I did netcfg, linuxconf, edited files, etc. My sound card looks set up but again I get a message that device or resource is busy. My sound card did the same thing a couple of installs ago:) then all of a sudden started to work on its own when I was in XFce and turned on the CD player. I have no idea why it started working then. It is not doing anything in KDE right now. My SMC EZethernet card is an ISA and a SMC1660T. From my research that uses the rtl8019 driver which is supposedly a clone of NE2000. I used that driver since the rtl8019 is not listed in my Linux-Mandrake 7. I know a couple of you said you have the same card that I have and got it working eventually. It was working well in my Windows 95 before it crashed so I know the card works. I have not used ISApnp yet.I read alot about it but I do not understand how to use it. I looked into the Bios but I can't figure out how to disable the card there for plug and play. If anyone is willing to help I would greatly appreciate it. I already posted all of my card and driver information that I got from Windows in a previous email. I will send it again if I must.Maybe I chose the wrong driver or maybe it is a conflict problem but I cannot figure it out from the information I have. I am sure some of you could. I am so inexperienced with this, I guess. I have been paying for cable for a couple of months now and I cannot use it. I have spent too many days and hours on this. I am just about ready to reformat my harddrives and just put Windows 95 back on so that I can use the cable. That is an absolute last resort. I was hoping to be a Linux user. Your help is always greatly appreciated. Thank you. Marcia YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: [newbie] internet with cable?
Dear Eddie and All, Yes, I did checkout Harddrake early on before I did the 1000 steps to card setup :) and it did not detect my card. However when I went to /sbin/isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf I got this information: Board 1 has Identity 3b 29 17 b7 6b 60 16 a3 4d: SMC1660 Serial No 689420139 [checksum 3b] Board 2 has Identity 35 ff ff ff ff 00 30 32 0d: CIR3000 Serial No -1 [checksum 35] Board 3 has Identity 27 ff ff ff ff 68 18 73 16: ESS 1868 Serial No -1 [checksum 27] /etc/isapnp.conf:46 --Fatal - IO range check attempted while device activated /etc/isapnp.conf:46 --Fatal - Error occurred executing request ' IORESCHECK ' --- further action aborted This seems to say that my ethernet card, dialup CirrusLogic Modem, and sound card are all recognized by Linux. The Board 1 identity is my SMC ethernet card. UPDATE: I actually did my next to last resort and called tech support for Cox internet. Of course he said they do not support Linux. I then asked if there was anyone there who knew how to connect with Linux anyway. There was. He said that all I have to do is go to Netcfg or Linuxconf and enable DHCP and make sure DNS is disabled. He said do not put anything else down. He said everything is detected automatically through their server. He said it is very simple. From this information I assume as long as I have my card setup correctly and initialized first that if I follow his instructions afterwards I should be on. Well I probably have done alot of things I do not need to do. Please correct me here: I need to setup my card and choose the hopefully correct driver.What program is best to use, netcfg, Linuxconf, both, or manually some other way? Does the above information say that my card is already configured? I will be very grateful for anyone's help. Thank you. Marcia YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: [newbie] internet with cable?
Dear Roman and All, Thank you for your advice. I just sent an email with an UPDATE. You may see it come up soon. I mentioned that I actually called my Cox-internet cable support and found someone who knows Linux. I did not actually get to talk to him but he told my helper that all I had to do to get on is set up in Linuxconf. He said to only enable DHCP and disable DNS. He said do not put any numbers down for anything else. No IP addresses needed or anything else. He said everything is automatically detected through the server as long as I just enable DHCP and disable DNS. Does that sound right? I will try it but does not my card have to be recognized and initialized first? I checked into sbin/isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf and this is what it says: Board 1 has Identity 3b 29 17 b7 6b 60 16 a3 4d: SMC1660 Serial No 689420139 [checksum 3b] Board 2 has Identity 35 ff ff ff ff 00 30 32 0d: CIR3000 Serial No -1 [checksum 35] Board 3 has Identity 27 ff ff ff ff 68 18 73 16: ESS 1868 Serial No -1 [checksum 27] /etc/isapnp.conf:46 --Fatal - IO range check attempted while device activated /etc/isapnp.conf:46 --Fatal - Error occurred executing request ' IORESCHECK ' --- further action aborted Does this mean that my card is already recognized? It sounds like I just need to set up my card correctly. Yes, Roman, I will accept your offer for help about this . If my cable company does not need very much information from me then do I still have to do alot to get my card set up correctly? I will greatly appreciate your help. Thank you. Marcia YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
