RE: [newbie] Recovering erased folders and files

2003-03-14 Thread Robert Wideman
There are a few howto's on the net but usually it is impossible to do.  You
have to generally know the area (inodes) on the HD that the files were on
and you read a hex dump of those inodes to verify and then you cat that
information to a file that you want to save it in.  I have read a few howtos
but i have never tested it and i think this is the only way unless you have
a trash program installed before you delete such files.
http://recover.sourceforge.net/linux/
http://lde.sourceforge.net/
http://www.r-tt.com/RLinux.shtml
Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Piero Piutti
 Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 2:45 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Recovering erased folders and files


 Yesterday I accidentally erased my Documents folder from my
 home dir while
 doing some tweaking with my newly installed Kde 3.1 desktop enviroment.

 I know this is an odd question but... is there any means to
 recover the files
 that were contained there?

 Thanks!
 --
 Piero Piutti
 ---
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RE: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO

2003-03-11 Thread Robert Wideman
I would personally install qmail.
http://www.qmail.org/top.html
Its secure, 10k reward for first problem on it.
Also its supposed to be super easy to setup.  Sendmail is known as the
largest damn
program on the face of the earth.
But other than that i would use sendmail.  I know i am going to have to
learn it
with my AIX and Solaris studying...
Rob

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Kuhn
 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:39 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO


 Ok, y'all - no flames, no laughs, no jests.

 The day before yesterday I hosed my PRIMARY linux box - running RH 7.3+.
 Because the partition table was mucked up beyond recognition, I lost my
 email, bookmarks, contacts, yadda yadda yadda...you name it, I lost it.
 Mind included.

 Resolution to the issue was at first trying to get RH 8.0 on NICELY -
 didn't work. Actually, the performance was so lousy, and setting up a
 SIMPLE BLOODY HCF MODEM was so complex, I gave up. It was sickening.
 Hours gone for nothing. Ok - so now I've installed MDK 9.1rc2 -
 installation of EVERYTHING (and some) was less than an hour. Even setup
 my / and other FS's as ReiserFS without a hitch. Changed to the NVidia
 driver (via source compilation) in no time at all. Had to dig for KPPP,
 though - cuz it wasn't installed by default and the MCC still don't play
 nicely for doing simple setups - but that's another story...even got my
 IP masquerading done rather quickly - few minutes - nice.

 I have to say that KDE 3.1 is a beaut. MDK 9.1 has quite a bit of
 polish, quite a bit of performance - quite a lot of getting used to
 because, remember, I was enslaved to the RH world - but no mo. Nada.
 Done. Finito.

 The only issues I have now are that I have to get Postfix (yech) working
 nicely as it ain't playing nicely - and I'm far from being a Postfix
 freak - so I'm wondering about blowing Postfix and putting Sendmail
 on...

 SO, if y'all got something to tell me - some bits of wisdom or advice,
 please PLEASE tell me - cuz I've already lost three days of productivity
 with this and well, I'm really tired now...(grin) BUT, I'm happy it's
 working like a champ (performance is still mind boggling for me...really
 - not a joke)

 --
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RE: [newbie] Took the plunge - CUZ I HAD TO

2003-03-11 Thread Robert Wideman
 The SENDMAIL package for MDK is only, ONLY 618k - wow - monstrously
 huge, ay? Actually, it's relatively simple - just a matter of following
 the defaults, but then again, someone that lives on Postfix will say the
 same thing...ditto on Qmail and every other mail package down the line
 (except, of course, Courier and Cyrus - GADS - that is DEFINITELY rocket
 science).

 Either which, I've got to this this fragbot working...so I can TAKE SOME
 TIME TO TAKE CARE OF MY CUSTOMERS and take care of myself, too...(g)

 (...nervous twitch in both eyes, slumped over the keyboard, tired,
 un-showered and un-shaved)

 Cheers!
 --
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OMG, an new SIG
Just kidding, kewl.

What i am talking about is the complexity of the program.  Now the
size of the program is a different thread.
Then again i have had a lot to drink tonight.No job, umemployment
was just declined (another thread), no degree (another thread), jobs
suck in Austin (not another thread), etc.  Ok, new subject here.
Sendmail, the book in the Craig Hunt Series states its another OS by itself
(then again i sold the book so i dont remember exactly).  I do remember it
could
contain about 5000 pages in a book or so.  That is the reason why i
personally
dont want to touch it but i know i will need to...

Going to bed, TTYL

Rob


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RE: [newbie] Updating GTK

2003-03-11 Thread Robert Wideman
 is there a simple way to update GTK to version 2 on a Mandrake
 8.2-system,
 the thing
 is that I do not wish to do it package by package, although
 timewise I would
 have the time
 to fix that. This is a thing where I find the RPM-system inferior to for
 example FreeBSD's portsystem.

OMG, someone has not read our posts about urpmi
try using urmpi to update everything, it will check for dependencies and
everything...


Rob


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[newbie] vmware 3.2 w/ all scsi system

2003-03-10 Thread Robert Wideman
I have installed vmware 3.2 onto my all scsi system:
p3-450mhz
512mb ram
2940u2w scsi card
ibm 18g scsi HD
pioneer scsi dvdrom

I ran the vmware-config.pl script and it seemed to get me going.  I created
a new vm w/ 176mb ram and 4g space.  The HD was setup ok inside the VM, but
the cdrom was set to IDE, so i disabled the IDE cdrom and enabled the scsi
cdrom with the options below.

The devices are setup as:
scsi 0:0 virtual disk
 4g space
scsi 0:2 cdrom
   /dev/scd0

I turn on the VM and it finds my proc and ram
then shows:
Mouse enabled
ERROR
02B1: Diskette Drive B Error

then states F1 to continue or F2 for setup.
If i do F1 it states no OS found and states
A bootable cdrom/fdd/hd was not detected, please make sure the media is in
and restart.
When i do F2 there is no info on my scsi deviecsDUH b/c my 2940u2w has
its own scsi bios where you have to enable the bootable devices at.  They
are setup correctly in the scsi bios.
I have my Win2k Pro cd in the cdrom drive.  I have tried it unmounted AND
mounted.  I have tried the cdrom option in the configuration info set to
/dev/scd0 and /mtn/cdrom (/mnt/cdrom when it was mounted).  Nothing has
worked.  I do not find any information on the net about any of this.

Any thoughts?

Rob


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RE: [newbie] DVD movies

2003-03-09 Thread Robert Wideman
 Have you got libdvdcss installed?  That seems to be important 
 for ogle, xine, 
 and mplayer.  The PLF site has RPMs, some specific to ogle. 

Go to http://rpm.pbone.net/ and get it there.
Rob

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[newbie] MDK 9.1 ProSuite/PowerPak release info

2003-03-09 Thread Robert Wideman
I am wondering if the 9.1 ProSuite or PowerPak Editions will have Win4Lin
v4.
The reason why is b/c 8.2 came with v3 and i want to totally make all my
boxes MDK, with my fastest and most powerful a win4lin win2k install to use
non-linux apps in.
For those of you who dont know what Win4Lin isit is basically VMWare
just by a different company.  Also I do know that if I were to upgrade my
current v3 win4lin to v4 it is $20 off on their website (www.netraverse.com)
since i bought the older version through a reseller of Win4Lin, but you
gotta talk to sales to get the discount.

Rob


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RE: [newbie] MDK 9.1 ProSuite/PowerPak release info

2003-03-09 Thread Robert Wideman
 Just bear in mind, Rob, that the version of win4lin shipping a
 few months ago
 was still not able to support ntfs - I'm not sure about w2k on fat32.  I
 don't know if there's a newer version, though.

Your stating that Win4Lin didnt support NTFS within its VM?

Rob




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RE: [newbie] MDK 9.1 ProSuite/PowerPak release info

2003-03-09 Thread Robert Wideman
 Whoah!  KLet's be clear about what you are all talking about.

 Win4Lin does not care what the filesystem is, because it uses
 the Linux kernel
 to handle that.  This allows you to install Windows on any filesystem
 supported by Linux.  if Win4Lin could not support NTFS it is
 because Linux
 did not support NTFS.

 Win4Lin does not support the NT based version of Windows right
 now, only the
 9x series.  This is not because of the filesystem, but because of the
 structure of the OS itself.

MMM, after looking at it more closely i am finding out that Win4Lin is not
what i thought it was.  Maybe i just never even went to their site and
actually read what it really did and i just assumed it was just another
vmware.
OK, great.  Back to square one.
Thanks


Again, once a newbie always a newbie.


Rob


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RE: [newbie] USB hard drives?

2003-03-09 Thread Robert Wideman


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of et
 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 12:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] USB hard drives?


 On Sunday 09 March 2003 11:49 am, Terry Sheltra wrote:
  Curious question ...
 
  I took a Linux server configuration class this past week, and
 one of the
  students brought up an interesting question that the instructor could
  not answer.  Can linux be put on a USB hard drive and made
 bootable from
  it?  She says that she has Window$ machines that are capable of this,
  and I was curious if it could be done in linux.  If so, how?
 
  Thanks!
 this is a function provided by the bios, and it would not matter
 what OS is on
 the drive, as long as the drive could be booted from.



The simple answer to bootable HD's on USB isNO.
Answer the question yourself...is USB bootable?NO.
Only Firewire/1394 (legally only Apple can use the term Firewire, its 1394
for any other OS/architecture) and SCSI are possible external bootable
media.
Try it yourselfif you have a USB cd-rom boot off a MDK9 cd.  Does it
work?  NO
No HD's can be bootable until the bios of the MB's are made that way or the
usb cards are made with a bootable bios option.
Just like you have to have the option of scsi to be bootable.  Also the SCSI
cards have a bios on them that give you an option to be bootable.

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RE: [newbie] Can't access my bank account!

2003-03-09 Thread Robert Wideman
The original posters problem might stem from not being 128-bit ecryption
installed.  I had the same problem the first time i tried linux and a secure
site.
Personally i have tried and tested Mozilla/Galeon with different websites.
I have not had a problem with Galeon anywhere, even bank accounts.  Mozilla
on the other hand isnt liked by many companies, even though Netscape is
based on it.  I have emailed several companies and they just remark install
Netscape or IE.

Rob


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RE: [newbie] USB hard drives?

2003-03-09 Thread Robert Wideman
 Check this out.I just bought a desknote laptop with AMI Mobile PC
 Bios and it has USB support to boot from USB Mass Storage Devices such
 as USB Floppy, USB CD-ROM, USB Zip, USB LS-120, Iomega Zip.

 Find out more here:
 http://www.ami.com/amibiosmobile/
 http://www.ami.com/support/docdl.cfm?DLFile=support/doc/amibiosmo
 bile.pdfFileID=366

MM, interesting.  I thought AMI was bought out by LSI.  Atleast thats what
happened with their raid cards when i worked at Dell Server Support.  Good
to see they are by themselves.  Or are they?
I wonder if this AMIBIOS is in any of the new MB's out there.  The only
thing is AWARD has been THE bios manu out there for years.  I dont mind
anyone stepping in but has anyone used a MB that has AMI's bios installed?

Also, which laptop (manu, model) Do you have that this is installed into?

Rob


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RE: [newbie] USB hard drives?

2003-03-09 Thread Robert Wideman
 And what about booting from a diskette THEN to a HD or CD mounted via
 USB?

That would TECHNICALLY (lol) be booting from diskette.
But would be THEORETICALLY be booting through diskette.

Every thing in computers i seem to be able to do the 
technically/theoretically comparison.

Rob

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RE: [newbie] USB hard drives?

2003-03-09 Thread Robert Wideman
   And what about booting from a diskette THEN to a HD or CD
 mounted via
   USB?
 
  That would TECHNICALLY (lol) be booting from diskette.
  But would be THEORETICALLY be booting through diskette.
 
  Every thing in computers i seem to be able to do the
  technically/theoretically comparison.
 
  Rob

 Hence, TECHNICALLY you're correct, THEORETICALLY, you're not.
 (g)

Can we put booting to a linux install cd in the same catagory?
If so, then we theorectically boot from cd...even if we boot to a floppy
first.

Rob


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RE: [newbie] VNC and 2 cards

2003-03-09 Thread Robert Wideman
  If you google on vnc ssh tunnel you will get tons of hits 
 tha t provide the 
  details on how to do this.

http://www.iodynamics.com/~fozz/presentations/VNC+SSH/


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[newbie] question on tarballing up the ~/wine folder

2003-03-08 Thread Robert Wideman
I am playing around with wine.  It is working just fine on my MDK9 install.
I also have an RH8 install on another box.  I was wondering if anyone has
tried tarballing the ~/wine directory and moving it to another box OR
distro'ed box and it still work.  My thought on doing this is that it is
linux and box MDK9 and RH8 are both LSB 1.2 certified.  So in that case as
long as the appropriate rpm's are installed on the new box then it should
work fine.  Correct?

TIA
Rob


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[newbie] ntpd issues

2003-03-08 Thread Robert Wideman
I have a Cisco 2500 router setup to deny ALL activity on port 123 (ntpd).
The Cisco router is my time server.  I have finally found out why i am
getting errors in my Cisco logs stating an NTP server is getting denied, its
b/c i had one specified in ntp.conf and its not the server that i thought it
was.  I changed the line that stated server ntpd server name to the IP
of the Cisco router and restarted NTPD and i am getting no server suitable
for syncronization found in /var/log/messages.  MCC does NOT allow me to
type in a different NTP server than what is listed thereit only lets me
choose from the drop down menu.  I do NOT want to select one of those, I
want to type in the IP of my NTP server on my Cisco router.  How do i change
this on MDK9?
TIA

Rob


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RE: [newbie] DVD movies

2003-03-08 Thread Robert Wideman
Check out this site and follow it.  It got me going.
http://www.trylinuxsd.com/dvd/
Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Sherman
 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:15 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] DVD movies


 On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 15:56:01 -0500, you wrote:

 On Saturday 08 March 2003 03:14 pm, Metamorphysical wrote:
  I've looked on some of the RPM sites for dvd patches and such
 but maybe I
  just can't do it.  I'm trying to play dvd's and just won't do
 it.  I know
  most of them are encrypted and that's why, but thought maybe there was
  something out there I could use with xine or maybe another completely
  different program.
 
 Did you look at plf.zarb.org


 I've been using a DVD player called Ogle...can't remember where I got
 it, but I'm sure a quick googling will take care of that. I like it
 better than mplayer for DVDs.





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[newbie] [OT] true alcohol stories...please read

2003-03-06 Thread Robert Wideman
I was taking a friend home Wednesday evening when on the radio was a
commercial type thing that reported a Sophomore in Lake Travis High School
was in a drunk driving accident.  He had 2 friends with him who were killed
instantly when they hit another car head on, the driver of the other vehicle
was killed as well.  The only surviving person was the student that was
drunk, due to the burns from the accident, he has no nose and ears, nor does
he have ANY use of his hands, has NO hair, and his face was completely
destroyed.  40 surgeries to this student has not helped over the years.

My friend whom I was taking home stated that she went to high school with
him and knows him personally.  After the ad was over we had kept talking
about it and she stated that the student drunk driver was 5 times over the
legal Texas limit for alcohol consumption.  She also stated that for killing
3 people while being 5 times over the legal limit got him 7 years...ONLY 7
YEARS...in Huntsville (Texas' state prison just north of Houston).

Another story.
I recently had a temporary bar job.  The first day there was a story going
that the bar owner told us that needs to be taken to heart.  One of the
regulars to the bar left one night and was in a car wreck.  I do not know
the damage of what happened but he was in the hospital for 1.5 weeks.
Legally it was the bars job to take his keys away.  After that night I have
seen several times where the bartenders do take the keys away until the
customer is sober.


The moral of these true stories is I do not care if you drink...but give up
your keys if you drove.  Be responsible, be an adult.  If you drink you take
on these responsibilities automatically.



Robert Wideman

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RE: [newbie] how to list sources for urpmi

2003-03-05 Thread Robert Wideman
 man urpmi. man 8 urpmi.update. I cant see where to output
 the list of
 sources to read.

 Reason, For a mate I wish to delete an update mirror
 urpmi.removemedia so i
 can set a new one.

See the /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg file to see the media sites/locations.
Or just check the Sources Manager and click edit on the one you want to
delete and you will see what it is named there.  If you get that far you
might as well delete it from there as well instead of clicking edit just
click delete.
Rob


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RE: [newbie] user mode linux question

2003-03-03 Thread Robert Wideman
 Are you talking about a chroot environment?

Have you used UML?  It sure doesnt sound like it.  
Its a virtual machine (OS) inside file.  
Just like VMWare but better (depending on what your doing).
Its built into the kernel and it has its own filesystem and everything.
http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/

Rob

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RE: [newbie] iptables stopped

2003-03-03 Thread Robert Wideman
 Firewalling/packet filtering/NAT is compiled into the Linux Kernel, it 
 is not a service. You don't start it, you just configure it for 
 operation. The iptables package that you installed is only a user-space 
 configuration utility - again not a service. I would not worry if 
 iptables does not show correctly in the mcc service section.
 
 There are web sites that can test your system for firewalling 
 capabilities, for example www.pcflank.com. You might try one of those 
 with iptables enabled and disabled.

If you have IPTables installed as an rpm then it is a service.
It should not be a server.  It should be DLed (the source) along with the 
kernel source and recompiled.
Unless you have DLed the sources like this and reconfigured everything
yourself then it is installed as an rpm/server like he states.
Uninstall iptables/ipchains and then DLed/install the sources.  Its much
better and you can see the list of rules/chains with iptables -L.  If
nothing is listed then nothing is loadedthis doesnt matter how you
have it installed.

Rob

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RE: [newbie] IPTABLES manually

2003-03-03 Thread Robert Wideman
iptables-save and iptables-restore
Also, put your rules into a script like /etc/rc.firewall and
just add that to the end of rc.local adn it will start every time.
Also there are lots of tutorials out there.
Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Todd Slater
 Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 8:40 AM
 To: Mandrake Newbie
 Subject: [newbie] IPTABLES manually
 
 
 I drop Nimda and Code Red infected computers with iptables, but if I
 have to reboot, or if I use a gui like Firestarter, it starts fresh and
 I lose those IPs from my rules.
 
 If you have built a firewall manually with iptables, how do you get it
 back when you reboot? I figure a script would do but I'm curious how
 other people handle it.
 
 Todd
 
 

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RE: [newbie] user mode linux question

2003-03-03 Thread Robert Wideman
 Please be a bit more patient with people on this list. I still haven't
 gotten over the id10t error statement that you made to someone on this
 list a while ago.

Dood that was a IT Industry joke.  Get over it.  I do ID-10-T issues all the
time. I even do PEPKAC issues myself.  I just get over it b/c it is life.

 With all due respect, if you can't deal with newbies on their level,
 stick to the expert list.

If you cant tell i help out a lot with everybody else on this list.  I am a
newbie in some areas.  I was asking if he had ever done it.  If he hadnt
messed with it then i wouldnt expect him to try to help.  I dont help out on
issues that i dont know about.  If you dont want me to help out then i wont.
I get info out of this list just like you do.

This email was done with all due respect as well.
Also i do not do emails very well.  I type what comes off my head just like
i would speak in person and it doesnt do the others well b/c they dont know
how to take my sarcasm.

Rob


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RE: [newbie] IPTABLES rules for Direct Connect ?

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman



Actually Stephen is correct. Of all the iptables GUI or 
configurator applications Shorewall was the worst. It took me 30 mins 
after the first time of installing MDK9 was i able to figure out what the hell 
was going on with my box...not able to get out of the local box. I 
remember that Shorewall was a firewall using IP Tables. I listed the 
current rules of iptables "iptables -L" and it listed a crap load of them by 
default from shorewall. I disabled shorewall and i was able to connect 
just normal.
So on 
your understanding of what Stephen stated that it was "dont use linux" is 
totally misunderstood. Reread his message. It stated "dont use 
shorewall"did it say anything about dont use "linux"...NO IT DID 
NOT.
You 
asked what the solution washe simply stated "dont use 
shorewall".

I 
agree with Stephen. Dont use Shorewallnot linux just 
shorewall.

Rob





  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of Bela MarkusSent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 2:57 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] 
  IPTABLES rules for Direct Connect ?Hi Stephen,you 
  advice is not very constructive. Sounds like: dont use LINUX, do not use 
  LINUX, etc.Doesn't matter is it SHOREWALL or else, the key is the 
  IPTABLES, oll others just cosmetics. Now I see, original subject was 
  misleading. The right would be " IPTABLES rules for Direct 
  Connect".Best regards... BelaStephen Kuhn wrote:
  On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 18:11, Bela Markus wrote:
  
  Hi,

I spent nights without any success to configure SHOREWALL in 9.0 to run 
Direct Connect (DC++ exactly) to run in active mode.

Is there a solution out there?

Regards... Bela, HA5DI

Yes. Don't use SHOREWALL.

  
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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Windows Update security unveiled

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
I agree with Stephen on this one as well.  How often does MS change their
EULA? EVERYDAY.  How often does MS change the story on what they are doing?
EVERY MINUTE.  I cant stand MS anymore.  I never have liked the company,
only the software which is basic and easy to use (in most cases).
To the question of Is there cause to worry?   YES, WHY DO YOU THINK HE
POSTED THIS INFO???
Its all about users privacy and truth from companies.  If i knew that MS was
doing this then it would have been ok b/c i would have agreed to it if i
kept using it.  I have been wondering where the little banner that
information isnt being passed onto MS went...into their EULA which you
have to read before updating your OS which is made insucure by the company
for the FUCKING DOLLAR that they so have to have.  This is one thing that i
have hated ever since moving to Austin, TXGOD DAMN CORPORATIONS LYING TO
EVERYONE.  Corporations are about the fucking buck, nothing about the
user/employee.  It is about saving their ass in the short term and what will
get them ahead of everyone else.  That is why i like MDK so much is that
they are a true company that is still giving their OS for free and we can
decide to purchase if we want to.  MDK might have money in the bank, BUT
they keep trying to save their ass by letting the public know they are on
the verge of losing it.
Who is it that keeps MDK up and running  IT IS US, the USERS of purchase
and LOVE what they are doing for the OSS community who actually respect what
they do.
Ok, i am on a tangent.  Then again i am just getting over being drunk from
the nite out on the town.
Have fun
Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Kuhn
 Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 3:19 AM
 To: Mandrake Newbie
 Subject: Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Windows Update security unveiled


 On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 20:06, Richard Urwin wrote:
  On Sunday 02 Mar 2003 7:19 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
   For those that still have to use M$ Windows for some reason - any
   reason; just what do YOU think M$ knows when you connect to
 the Windows
   Update site?
  
   http://www.tecchannel.de/betriebssysteme/1126/index.html
 
  All very interesting in a look what I can do way. But not
 very Open Source.
  Have you paid the E1.99? Is there cause to worry?

 What I find so shocking about the whole bit is that M$ PROMISED that
 they're not spying on your system when in fact they really are. M$ has
 consistently gone back on their promises of privacy for end-users - even
 so far as changing the entire structure of their licensing agreements
 and out-dating their original EULA's. Sad to think that you trust
 someone like M$ and the original EULA that you bought a package with and
 less than two years later the EULA is NIL and your privacy is OPENED to
 them.

 It's very sad and very Big Brother - and the public is completely
 unaware of the true lack of privacy they have - they've been lulled
 into  a false trust of a monopolistic and meglomaniacal company.

 I wonder if the Chinese - whom Big Bad Bill is going to visit, fully
 understand the gist of security issues by signing on the dotted line...

 Sorry to rant, but it's truly driving me further away from MS products.

 --
 Sun,  2 Mar 2003 20:10:01 +1100
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RE: [newbie] basic concept question

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 I've just begun reading man:wine insert glazed-eyes smiley
 and as far as I can see the idea is to run windoze programs
 within Mandrake.

Not just MDK, all any linux distro out there.

 Never mind the fact that I can't make it
 start Excel yet [I'll continue looking for a while yet before
 asking here], I thought I'd ask for the overview that perhaps
 I'm missing...

Yes, your missing something.  I have wine setup on my box, just installed an
app perfectly.
My config file is listed below all of this info here.

 I apologise if this is a really stupid question, but like several
 things when confronted with a totally new OS, if you're starting
 off with the wrong assumptions you'll just waste a lot of time.

 Can you run a windoze session *in* Linux?

Yes, www.vmware.com

 Like: you can run a DOS session in a window in windoze, and I've
 heard you can emulate a PC on a Mac.

No.

 If so, can you make the two virtual machines talk to each other?

Yes, its called virtual networking, read up on it on www.vmware.com or
whatever software your running, user-mode-linux.com is another but it wont
run windows apps, only a linux virtual server.  Also there is virtual
server, dont know the info just saw it in the latest Euro Linux Magazine at
the latest BN shelf in TX...it has SECURITY written all over it.  There are
tons others like win4lin and the main company that does wine has another
version as well.  Another called Cross-over Office.

 For example, Mandrake can't see files on the NTFS partition
 which Win2K is on, but if I had Windows running I could network
 across to it from Mandrake, just like it was on my laptop?

Yes, www.vmware.com


Rob


Here is the ~/.wine/config file, I only listed what i have changed/edited in
the file.
[Drive X]
Path=/home/rwideman   (Unix path for drive root)
Type=hd   (supported types are 'floppy', 'hd', 'cdrom' and
'network')
Label=my disk  (drive label, at most 11 characters)
Filesystem=win95 (supported types are 'msdos'/'dos'/'fat',
'win95'/'vfat', 'unix')

Here is the /etc/wine/config file, i only listed what i have changed/edited
in the file.
[Drive A]
Path = /mnt/floppy
Type = floppy
Label = Floppy
Filesystem = win95
Device = /dev/fd0

[Drive C]
Path = /mnt/windows
Type = hd
Label = Windows
Filesystem = win95

[Drive D]
Path = /mnt/cdrom
Type = cdrom
Label = CD-Rom
Filesystem = win95
; make sure that device is correct and has proper permissions !
Device = /dev/cdrom

[Drive E]
Path = /tmp/winetmp-${USER}
Type = hd
Label = Tmp Drive
Filesystem = win95

[Drive F]
Path = ${HOME}
Type = network
Label = Home
Filesystem = win95

[wine]
Windows = c:\\windows
System = c:\\windows\\system
Temp = e:\\
Path = c:\\windows;c:\\windows\\system;e:\\;e:\\test;f:\\
Profile = c:\\windows\\Profiles\\Administrator
GraphicsDriver = x11drv
; Wine doesn't pass directory symlinks to Windows programs by default.
; Enabling this may crash some programs that do recursive lookups of a whole
; subdir tree in case of a symlink pointing back to itself.
;ShowDirSymlinks = 1
ShellLinker = wineshelllink

# wineconf

[Version]
; Windows version to imitate
(win95,win98,winme,nt351,nt40,win2k,winxp,win20,win30,win31) },
Windows = win98
; DOS version to imitate
;DOS = 6.22










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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Windows Update security unveiled

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 That's the main reason that this machine is now 100% Linux. I've
 paid for all
 my previous Windows installs, but XP was a step too far. I
 decided to get off
 the wagon and get onto one going in a direction I agreed with.

For those of you who dual boot, for GOD sakes, buy a $60 computer off ebay
and save your self the hassle of rebooting and get the $50 belkin switch for
2 computers to one keyboard/mouse/monitor.

My god.  The only MS Windows I have ever paid for was the Win95 that came on
my first computer, Compaq 7180...p100 w/ 8mb ramwhich was preinstalled
before all this preinstall shit came about.
Ever since then i have gotten it free from the companies that i work for.
Actually I have gotten everything since Win98 free from MS themselves.
Other than the Compaq box, I paid $40 for Office XP Pro that came with an
$80 mouse (retail is was $80) and Office XP and a shirt came for
freethis was 1.5 years ago when i worked for Dell Linux Server
Support..HA.   Win98, Win98Se, Office 2000, Win2kall free from MS
directly, or through CompUSA whom i actually got it from through MS via
retail Not-For-Resale kits.
Thank god I am in the computer industry.


Rob


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FW: [newbie] ARTICLE: Windows Update security unveiled

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
Forgot to say thanks for this info Stephen.
Rob


 I agree with Stephen on this one as well.  How often does MS
 change their EULA? EVERYDAY.  How often does MS change the story
 on what they are doing?  EVERY MINUTE.  I cant stand MS anymore.
  I never have liked the company, only the software which is
 basic and easy to use (in most cases).
 To the question of Is there cause to worry?   YES, WHY DO YOU
 THINK HE POSTED THIS INFO???
 Its all about users privacy and truth from companies.  If i knew
 that MS was doing this then it would have been ok b/c i would
 have agreed to it if i kept using it.  I have been wondering
 where the little banner that information isnt being passed onto
 MS went...into their EULA which you have to read before
 updating your OS which is made insucure by the company for the
 FUCKING DOLLAR that they so have to have.  This is one thing
 that i have hated ever since moving to Austin, TXGOD DAMN
 CORPORATIONS LYING TO EVERYONE.  Corporations are about the
 fucking buck, nothing about the user/employee.  It is about
 saving their ass in the short term and what will get them ahead
 of everyone else.  That is why i like MDK so much is that they
 are a true company that is still giving their OS for free and we
 can decide to purchase if we want to.  MDK might have money in
 the bank, BUT they keep trying to save their ass by letting the
 public know they are on the verge of losing it.
 Who is it that keeps MDK up and running  IT IS US, the USERS
 of purchase and LOVE what they are doing for the OSS community
 who actually respect what they do.
 Ok, i am on a tangent.  Then again i am just getting over being
 drunk from the nite out on the town.
 Have fun
 Rob

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Kuhn
  Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 3:19 AM
  To: Mandrake Newbie
  Subject: Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Windows Update security unveiled
 
 
  On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 20:06, Richard Urwin wrote:
   On Sunday 02 Mar 2003 7:19 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote:
For those that still have to use M$ Windows for some reason - any
reason; just what do YOU think M$ knows when you connect to
  the Windows
Update site?
   
http://www.tecchannel.de/betriebssysteme/1126/index.html
  
   All very interesting in a look what I can do way. But not
  very Open Source.
   Have you paid the E1.99? Is there cause to worry?
 
  What I find so shocking about the whole bit is that M$ PROMISED that
  they're not spying on your system when in fact they really are. M$ has
  consistently gone back on their promises of privacy for
 end-users - even
  so far as changing the entire structure of their licensing agreements
  and out-dating their original EULA's. Sad to think that you trust
  someone like M$ and the original EULA that you bought a
 package with and
  less than two years later the EULA is NIL and your privacy is
 OPENED to
  them.
 
  It's very sad and very Big Brother - and the public is completely
  unaware of the true lack of privacy they have - they've been lulled
  into  a false trust of a monopolistic and meglomaniacal company.
 
  I wonder if the Chinese - whom Big Bad Bill is going to visit, fully
  understand the gist of security issues by signing on the
 dotted line...
 
  Sorry to rant, but it's truly driving me further away from MS
 products.
 
  --
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8:10pm  up 4 days, 10:13,  4 users,  load average: 1.30, 1.01, 0.57
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  |  .\__/ || |   |  |=|
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[newbie] PortSentry2

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 as well as
 using PortSentry2 for further monitoring.

I know this company that used to make Port Sentry is here in Austin TX.  The
company psionic.com.  Is it bought out by cisco now?  Thats all that the
website has on it.  Also the searches on google pull up mailing list items
and directs it to parts of psionic.com which also are redirected to cisco.
Where did you get PS2 from?  I knew that it was in development but didnt
know it was out yet (or was that the other software they made?).
Thanks
Rob


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RE: [newbie] Star Office Or OO.org can't save /wrong parameter

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 First, as root:
 setup -net
 Then hit setup again as user.

Also DL the latest updates from Sun for SO6.
http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/show.pl?target=patches/xprod-StarOfficenav=
pub-patches
Is the site to DL the updates.

Roc


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RE: [newbie] Re: I broke my desktop

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 I shut the machine off last night, started it back up this morning and
 everything worked great again. I guess that sometimes even Linux needs a
 restart

If you use your system everyday then  DO NOT TURN OFF THE COMPUTER.
Literally.  I have 10 computers (4 are my roomates, and this is half of the
computers we own) that are on all the time, 24/7.  It might increase the
electric bill about $20-30 BUT it beats dealing with computer problems all
the time and spending $50+ a month on replacing hardware.  Also, the turning
on and turn off everydaywould you like to be turned off and then turned
on everyday?  Wait, i woudl but thats a different story
Turned on, meaning...by the electro shocks like they use to survive people
with in the ER???  Thats how the computer hardware feels.  The more you turn
it off/on the more you wear the parts out.

Rob


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RE: [newbie] Internet Connection Problem (long, sorry!)

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 When you ping by name your machine first has to convert the name
 to numbers.
 In your case that step is failing.

 Check your DNS server setting.

Or just edit /etc/hosts.  Lots quicker and is the first place that is
checked for name-IP conversion.
Rob


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RE: [newbie] IPTABLES rules for Direct Connect ?

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 shorewall has taken a bashing on this list,
 with many suggesting alternatives,
 eg gshield, guarddog, firestarter, etc.

 i just wanna relate my own good experience.

 i was trying to configure my mdk 9.0 box to share
 my internet connection with a small home network
 consisting of 3 win9x pcs and 2 linux boxes.

 i first used the internet connection wizard in mcc,
 which didn't work.

 went to www.shorewall.net, and the quickstart guide suggested
 the two interface config.

 instead of using it wholesale, i compared the config files,
 found a few differences, opened up the ports i needed,
 restarted shorewall, and it worked.

 the entire process took me around 15 mins,
 included reading the stuff at www.shorewall.net.

 i think the essential diff was mdk 9.0 tried to
 3 zones in their shorewall config, while the two
 interface version of the quickstart guide used 2 zones.
 (if you dun understand what i'm saying,
 just spend a couple of mins with www.shorewall.net)

 i'm no expert, and i'm sure the mdk developers had
 a good reason to do what they did, but this setup worked
 easily for me.

 others trying to configure shorewall can also search
 the archives for a couple of extremely well written


I do not doubt that Shorewall can run nicely once configured properly.  I
was meaning that my experiences with it (like most) are terrible.
Most of my experiences with any firewall configurator sucks.  Thats why i
say go down to learning the actual rules and ways of iptables since it is
directly in charge of it...not any of the GUI configurators.
Rob


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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Windows Update security unveiled

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
  This isn't meant as an insult ,so don't take it that way.
 You sound like others I have heard. Almost apologetic about
 the fact that
 some distros made a profit, or intend to.
 As though they have somehow soiled the O.S. movement with money.
 Profit is not a dirty word. It is a necessary thing in order to
 pay wages,
 build infrastructure, Do R  D, build a better company, Do advertising,
 Secure a future, etc.
 It wouldn't bother me a bit if Mandrake had $40 billion in the
 bank, as it
 were. Provided they earned it honestly, And not through
 extortion, or other
 nefarious methods. Or engage in M$ tactics to further themselves
 among the
 other distros.
 If the above came, or comes to pass. I would drop Mandrake faster than I
 dropped Microsoft.
 Because Mandrake has an example of what not to do. It isn't
 right of M$ to do
 these things, Not because they are M$, But because this behaviour isn't
 morally justifiable.

I totally agree with them making a profit or if they had billions in the
bank.
I like what they have put out and will continue to do so unless they do move
to those tactics...
Rob


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RE: [newbie] /net and /misc

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 I think there is some confusion.
 LinNeighborhood is nothing to do with autofs.

 If autofs were a dependency of LinNeighborhood, then you would
 be warned when
 you tried to 'urpme autofs'.  But it isn't... So you won't..

 If you want to know what dependencies a package has. Just look it up in
 kpackage. It will also show you the files inside the package.

OR just go to command line and give it the ole command rpm -qpR
package-name.rpm
Easier for me to type than mess with the damn mouse.  Plus i type like 100
gwpm.
Rob


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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Civilme is POPULAR! Yeesh! (grin)

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 Asked like someone from a small state:-)

HAHA.  I live in the largest state there is (atleast in the continuous 48
states)...Texas.
Alaska is too far away from anything for me.
Rob


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RE: [newbie] ECS K7S6A motherboard problem with NIC

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 I spent now so much time on trying to have this board to work that I'm
 at the point of giving up.
 First a little bit of back ground, I installed mandrake 9.0 in my box:
 ECS K7S6A
 Athlon xp 1800
 256 MB ram
 NIC 3com 905 TX

Personally i will not buy ESC b/c they have jumpers to screw with.  I have
not built a computer myself unless it is jumperless b/c of these types of
issues, plus there is more control of certain devices.

 and everything was working except the NIC. I emailed the newbie mailing
 list to have some help (which was greatly appreciate by the way) and
 after trying different setting it still doesn't work. I am fairly sure
 that it's a motherboard problem because I tried different NICs without
 any success and my 3com works on another PC running mandrake 9.0.

First off, what is the NIC sharing an IRQ with?  That makes a huge
difference.  Even though NIC's can NOT share IRQ's period.  I have seen this
and be the cause of so many things when i worked at Dell Server Support,
Linux and Windows.
You can also tell the kernel to give the NIC a certain IRQ if neededin
/etc/modules.conf on the ethx line just put irq=X...X being the IRQ you
want it to have.

 I tried to install with USB,serial and parallel ports, soundcard disable
 to free a maximum of IRQ, tried different PC slots and none of that has
 worked.

Did you atleast disable serial and parrallel ports and all things NOT needed
first?

 Do I waste my time with this board and should I consider getting another
 one?

Personally i would buy an A-Bit or Asus, they are the best that i have
worked with.  Then again they are the only boards i have bought to build my
systems with.

 What else could I do to have the NIC having his own irq to check that
 this is no the problem?

Disable everything on the MB that you dont need, then go from there.

 I saw from the hardware list that mandrakelabs has certified the k7S6A
 under Mandrake-Linux prosuite Edition 8.2, could it be that Mandrake 9.0
 is not working properly with my board?

I doubt 9.0 is the issue, then again i have heard of other issues not
working due to some differences...
Rob


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RE: [newbie] Worried

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 I haven't booted in 4 months. 

And this is even AFTER system/software updates.

 I don't think boot or load time is a fair comparison. 

S true.  Again look at the # of times we boot in 4 months.


Rob

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RE: [newbie] Upgrading GTK+

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 Any comments on my original query?
 I ask because, on my KMail at least, the thread has been
 hijacked by another
 subject... or two.

 Thanks, and sorry to eat bandwidth it it isn't necessary.

 On Sunday 02 Mar 2003 10:08 am, Richard Urwin wrote:
  I was trying to install the latest sources of Glade, and found that it
  needed a newer version of GTK+ v2 than the mdk9.0 default
 install provides.
  This involves compiling glib, atk, pango and gtk+. I can compile and
  install glib, but one of the others detects that I have two
 copies of glib
  installed and refuses to continue.
 
  If I try to uninstall GTK+ v2 dpmdrake tells me
 (understandably) that it
  will have to uninstall a huge number of applications.
 
  I am sure there is a simple way to do this, but in this case
 learning by
  trial and error is likely to involve trashing a lot of functionality.
 
  So - How do I upgrade a shared library under the noses of
 dozens of apps
  that are dependent on it? And what is this likely to do to rpmdrake's
  database?

Thoughts:
why would you need to recompile anything enless its not in RPM form.  If you
redo your glib and glibc your kinda fucked.  Everything on your system
requires the version that you have installed b/c they are compiled against
that version.
2 versions of glib installed is b/c one is in source form and one is in rpm
form.   You kinda screwed yourself.
If you uninstall any window widget you will be uninstalling 90% of your GUI.
You update a shared library by updating it via rpm's.  It will test first if
it can be updated and tell you any issues.  Use the rpm -Uvh --test
rpm-filename.rpm first.

Rob


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RE: [newbie] Unofficial February stats

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 look at the bright side Anne. At least you're not still fighting 
 with Java 
 and Mozy. :P

She has a ways to catch up with me this month if i keep on like i am.
ROFL
Rob

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RE: [newbie] no sound in 9.0

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 AMD Mainboard that uses SiS 740 chipset. It also has a built in AC97
 Codec.  I am not sure what other information you might need out of the
 book.  I am very new to Mandrake Linux.  There is so much I don't
 understand.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks  Brenda

What motherboard do you have?  including model #.
Once i have that i will research fo you and give the list what i find.
Rob


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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Windows Update security unveiled

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 Tom:
 You bring up a good point. The only valid conclusion is that 
 either they are 
 perjurers and monopolists, or traitors and monopolists. Don't hold your 
 breath waiting for John Ashcroft to announce that anyone has 
 been indicted, 
 though.

I would say they are Traitors and Monopolists.  Since they take school
districts and government agencies to court over licenses for billions
of dollars
WHY in gods name take school districts to court when they are already
low on money and firing teachers left and right b/c of the type of
situation with the economy?  They are just making it worse.  They could
atleast give high schools and below (elementary and middle/junior high)
licenses for the desency of our youth trying to learn.  Does MS want
the youngsters of today to learn Linux (which is starting to happen with
RH and the RHCE program) or do they want them to learn MS, or does MS
want districts to actually purchase Apple products?  , geee, i wonder.

Seems like more and more everyday districts and colleges are going with
Linux b/c it is free/cheap.

Rob

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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Civilme is POPULAR! Yeesh! (grin)

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 Hush, rob, or we'll cut Alaska in two and make Texas the third 
 largest state.

LOLso true.  Its weird that Alaska is double the size of Texas.

Rob

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RE: [newbie] port monitor sought

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 Have you tried firestarter? It's quite simpler than
 ZoneAlarm  --it only has two tabs, one which reports
 connection attempts and blocked packets, and the other
 inside of which you can create rules for your firewall

 http://firestarter.sf.net

Ok, this is what initially got me into Linuxfirewalling and security.
I am not saying i am the shit.  God knows that i am not.  I am just saying
this is a HUGE field that you actually got to do the research yourself b/c
there are so many capabilities of apps out there.

Also, i am not stating that Damien is incorrect in his information.

Firestarter is not a port monitor.  It is a front end to IPTables.
IPTables is a firewall.  If your wanting a port monitor look into Snort
or other IDS (intrusion detection system).  Snort is the best IDS out
there, with options of a firewall.  If your wanting a firewall then go
with IPtables.  If you go with IPTables and you want a GUI configurator
then go with Firestarter.

The difference being:
firewall: you setup to block/allow certain packets going in/out of certain
ports.  For instance, if you have a web server but not an ftp server, you
allow
port 80 and block port 21.
IDS: you look at each packet and see if the insides look like an attack that
is defined by your ruleset.  For instance, if you have an ftp server you
obviously
allow port 21 BUT you look at each packet and see if it contains malformed
packets
that would possibly look like a DDoS or something else where the intruder is
trying
to actually attack the ftp server to grab your /etc/passwd file.  Thats more
or less
security of the FTP server BUT it can be configured in your IDS rules.

Just remember that a port monitor and a firewall are totally different.
IPTables and Snort can actually do monitoring and firewalling BUT
IPTables is made for firewalling and Snort is made for IDS.

If your wanting port monitor then Snort would be it.
http://www.snort.org for cabled networks
http://airsnort.shmoo.com for wifi

For IP Tables and firewall
http://www.netfilter.org

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RE: [newbie] au8830 install in 9.1

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
Do you have the kernel source installed
Just install the rpm version that your using from the RC1 DL cd's.
Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Trainor
 Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:07 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [newbie] au8830 install in 9.1


 I'm trying to instal the au8830 drivers in Mandrake 9.1rc1 under KDE 3.1

 It's not going well.  Here's some error message for ya:

 In file included from au_vortex.h:54,
  from au_audio.c:49:
 /usr/include/linux/module.h:299: parse error before UTS_RELEASE
 /usr/include/linux/module.h: In function `print_symbol':
 /usr/include/linux/module.h:433: `ESRCH' undeclared (first use in this
 function)
 /usr/include/linux/module.h:433: (Each undeclared identifier is
 reported only
 once
 /usr/include/linux/module.h:433: for each function it appears in.)
 In file included from au_vortex.h:55,
  from au_audio.c:49:
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:2:2: #error
 ===
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:3:2: #error You should not include
 /usr/include/{linux,asm}/ header
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:4:2: #error files directly for the
 compilation
 of kernel modules.
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:5:2: #error 
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:6:2: #error glibc now uses kernel
 header files
 from a well-defined
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:7:2: #error working kernel version (as
 recommended by Linus Torvalds)
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:8:2: #error These files are glibc
 internal and
 may not match the
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:9:2: #error currently running kernel. They
 should only be
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:10:2: #error included via other
 system header
 files - user space
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:11:2: #error programs should not directly
 include linux/*.h or
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:12:2: #error asm/*.h as well.
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:13:2: #error 
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:14:2: #error To build kernel
 modules please do
 the following:
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:15:2: #error 
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:16:2: #error  o Have the kernel sources
 installed
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:17:2: #error 
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:18:2: #error  o Make sure that the
 symbolic
 link
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:19:2: #error 
 /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
 exists and points to
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:20:2: #errorthe matching kernel source
 directory
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:21:2: #error 
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:22:2: #error  o Now copy
 /boot/vmlinuz.version.h
 to
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:23:2: #error/lib/modules/`uname
 -r`/build/include/linux/version.h
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:24:2: #error 
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:25:2: #error  o When compiling,
 make sure to use
 the following
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:26:2: #errorcompiler option to use the
 correct include files:
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:27:2: #error 
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:28:2: #error-I/lib/modules/`uname
 -r`/build/include
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:29:2: #error 
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:30:2: #errorinstead of
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:31:2: #error 
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:32:2: #error-I/usr/include/linux
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:33:2: #error 
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:34:2: #errorPlease adjust the Makefile
 accordingly.
 /usr/include/linux/version.h:35:2: #error
 ===
 In file included from au_audio.c:49:
 au_vortex.h:70:41: missing binary operator before '('
 In file included from au_vortex.h:73,
  from au_audio.c:49:
 /usr/include/asm/spinlock.h: At top level:
 /usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:31: conflicting types for `spinlock_t'
 /usr/include/linux/spinlock.h:73: previous declaration of `spinlock_t'
 /usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:80: parse error before do
 /usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:116: parse error before '{' token
 /usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:126: parse error before void
 /usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:157: conflicting types for `rwlock_t'
 /usr/include/linux/spinlock.h:137: previous declaration of `rwlock_t'
 /usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:182: parse error before void
 /usr/include/asm/spinlock.h:191: parse error before void
 au_vortex.h:76:41: missing binary operator before '('
 au_vortex.h:120:41: missing binary operator before '('
 au_vortex.h:126:41: missing binary operator before '('
 au_vortex.h:154:41: missing binary operator before '('
 au_vortex.h:205:41: missing binary operator before '('
 In file included from au_audio.c:50:

 it goes on like this for quite some time.  Can anyone figure out
 what the hell
 is going on there, because I'm lost.

 Thank you for your time,
 Brian Trainor




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RE: [newbie] port monitor sought

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
 Well, i made my suggestion only because he was asking
 for a ZoneAlarm-like program. As you may already know,
 ZA is a software firewall for Win32, it notifies you of blocked
 connections as they happen, and can be set up with simple
 rules. To my eyes, iptables + firestarter are pretty much the
 same thing, with the only difference that ZA is application-based
 (i.e. whenever an app wants to access a network interface
 you are presented with the option to allow that process or not)
 and Iptables is purely rule-based.

I agree with you stating that Firestarter is good for that.  I have used it
when i started to evolve in the beginning. It was broken half the time.
Then
again i should probably start playing some of the new versions to give it a
fair
shot.
You are correct and i will agree with you stating that it would be the best
for
a beginner looking for something like ZA for Linux.  Its just a huge field
where
it took me about 6 months to fully understand the concept of all the
firewalling/IDS stuff and what is what and who does what.
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RE: [newbie] au8830 install in 9.1

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
CVS is what he was using.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Meyer
 Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:55 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] au8830 install in 9.1
 
 
 On Sunday 02 March 2003 11:07 pm, Brian Trainor wrote:
  I'm trying to instal the au8830 drivers in Mandrake 9.1rc1 
 under KDE 3.1
 
 What source tarball are you using?  I had to update from aureal 
 cvs to get it 
 to build on my machine with 9.1.
 
 -- 
 Greg
 
 

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[newbie] user mode linux question

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Wideman
I have played with UML with the basic FS's that are on their site.  
I have actually DLed the MDK 8.2 FS on their site and tested it on
my MDK9 box.  It came up with a bunch of errors, guessing b/c my box
is all scsi.

Ok, down to the real issue.
The UML docs state you can install a distro into its own space and
run it inside the main OS.  Like i have MDK9 installed, i could
(supposedly) install RH8 into its own FS and run it on the same box.
This is very similar to VMWare, just not really.  I have asked on the
mIRC channels for UML and on their mailing list and that went no-where.
Has anyone done this with UML or Vserver???

TIA
Rob

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RE: [newbie] /net and /misc

2003-03-01 Thread Robert Wideman
 From /etc/mtab:
 automount(pid1561) /misc autofs
 rw,fd=5,pgrp=1561,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0
 automount(pid1574) /net autofs
 rw,fd=5,pgrp=1574,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0

 I use linneigborhood to work to access a LAN

I dont use LN.  I dont have those mount points.  I guess it is LN that is
doing this for you guys.

# cat /etc/mtab
/dev/sda1 / ext3 rw 0 0
none /proc proc rw 0 0
none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs rw 0 0
none /dev devfs rw 0 0
none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0
/dev/sda7 /home ext3 rw 0 0
/dev/sda6 /usr ext3 rw 0 0

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RE: [newbie] DIRECT CONNECT active mode and SHOREWALL

2003-03-01 Thread Robert Wideman
 Wouldn't it be easier, cheaper and wiser to ditch Shorewall and either
 manually edit the iptables scripts to allow for either ports to be
 opened or ports to be closed?
 Initially learning the basics to ipchains or iptables is a great thing
 for anyone to KNOW - as it is their city wall - and knowing where
 breaches in this wall are, or where to create strategic breaches is
 something I would suggest to everyone that has a *nix box.

I agree.  I have read over the IP Tables info ever since NetFilter started
and its the first thing that i disable/uninstall on a box.  If i want it
then i install a new kernel with it built in and then do the config
manually.
There cant be anything said for doing the GUI vs scripting when it comes
down
to knowing what the hell is going on.

 Aside from learning the basics to ipchains/iptables, you also start to
 encompass the simplicity of ip masquerading - otherwise known in the M$
 world as internet connection sharing and how that can be used to
 bridge networks - virtual and physical.

 IF you know what to do and are armed with the knowledge, it takes merely
 minutes to have your ports opened or closed for whatever reasons - and
 to have sharing turned on - it's truly amazing how simple it is - why
 do you think M$ has on Win98 thru WinXP? If it was complex, they'd
 charge for it. Because it's such a simple exercise, though, they've
 stolen the basics from *nix and added it as a feature.

I agree.  Even including Cisco routers.  My roommate has a Cisco 2500 up
and running and always has to consult me on wtf his rules are doing for
his ACL's b/c he doesnt understand the basics of his rules.  Why he has a
Cisco router up instead of me using my p266 when I KNOW IPTables?  He needs
to learn Cisco for certs

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RE: [newbie] Unofficial February stats

2003-03-01 Thread Robert Wideman
 Shit - stats are down - I'm going to have to tackle Mr. Wideman...(grin)

Lol.  Good luck.

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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Civilme is POPULAR! Yeesh! (grin)

2003-03-01 Thread Robert Wideman
 I'll agree on that point. Too bad the bastard lives in Alaska. Else I'd
 ask him to come on down here to Aussie for a tour...(g)

Alaska? WTF is up there other than dry cold weather?
Rob

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FW: [newbie] Unofficial February stats

2003-03-01 Thread Robert Wideman

  Shit - stats are down - I'm going to have to tackle Mr.
 Wideman...(grin)

 Lol.  Good luck.

I forgot to say that i am unemployed and have all the time in the world to
reply to this list.
If any of you guys live in Austin (or Dallas or Houston or San Antonio) and
have jobs that are
avail at your company or know of any jobs then PLEASE let me know.  It sucks
knowing i make more on  unemployment then i do working a 40 hour work week
making $10 /hr.

Rob


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FW: [newbie] Unofficial February stats

2003-03-01 Thread Robert Wideman


 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Wideman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 5:24 PM
 To: Newbie
 Subject: FW: [newbie] Unofficial February stats
 
 
 
   Shit - stats are down - I'm going to have to tackle Mr. 
  Wideman...(grin)
  
  Lol.  Good luck.
 
 I forgot to say that i am unemployed and have all the time in 
 the world to reply to this list.
 If any of you guys live in Austin (or Dallas or Houston or San 
 Antonio) 

Actually anywhere in Texas for that matter.

Rob

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[newbie] Linux Virtual Memory Manager posted by kerneltrap

2003-03-01 Thread Robert Wideman
Dont know if you guys follow Linux THIS much.  I know i do not, 
but if i were bored at 5am and not able to sleep I  might be 
able to understand it with about 4 cups of java (that is coffee 
for some of you non-coffee drinkers) or your favorite expresso.
http://www.csn.ul.ie/~mel/projects/vm/guide/html/understand/

Rob

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RE: [newbie] /net and /misc

2003-03-01 Thread Robert Wideman
You compiled from source, correct?
Look at the source code. Do a search for /net or /miscjust cat the files
cat file.c|grep /net
That should be the best way.
Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Kaplan
 Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 2:37 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] /net and /misc


 A good recommendation.  Short of uninstalling and breaking
 LinNeighborhood (if
 it should happen) is there a quick way to determine whether
 LinNeighborhood
 requires or creates and then uses the files?
 Paul

 On Saturday 01 March 2003 23:04, Derek Jennings wrote:
  On Friday 28 Feb 2003 9:17 pm, Paul Kaplan wrote:
   On Friday 28 February 2003 15:25, et wrote:
On Friday 28 February 2003 10:09 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Friday 28 February 2003 01:45 am, Paul Kaplan wrote:
  Anyone know what /net and /misc are?  They automount
 under m9, are
  always busy and can't be unmounted.  As a result I
 can't do a clean
  shutdown. How can I remidy?
  TIA
  Paul

 Paul, can you cd to these directories and do a ls in
 console mode?
 Might show what is in them, cause my system does not have either
 directory.
   
if I remember correctly (that might be a first) these are
 mount points
created by some wild program (like linneighborhood or
 gnomba for the
/net) and have a hard mount point in the script that
 creates them,
maybe posting fstab and mtab might help.
  
   Dennis,
   ls /misc and ls /net return nothing
  
   et,
   From /etc/mtab:
   automount(pid1561) /misc autofs
 rw,fd=5,pgrp=1561,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0
   0 automount(pid1574) /net autofs
 rw,fd=5,pgrp=1574,minproto=2,maxproto=4
   0 0
  
   I use linneigborhood to work to access a LAN
  
   Derek,
   What configuration file am I looking for w/ autofs?
 
  As I said these are the mount points for autofs
  The configuration files are /etc/auto.master  /etc/auto.net and
  /etc/auto.misc If you do not know why you have autofs
 installed, then you
  almost certainly do not need it
  urpme autofs  will get rid of it.
 
  derek





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[newbie] RE: [ctl-linux] GUI Perl Editor with color coding

2003-02-28 Thread Robert Wideman
 Don't forget about gvim.  vim.org

WOW, i like this.

HEHEHE.  Something i just noticed is the VI and VIm both point to VIM
Enhanced.  I used which and file commands and traced it back.  How
hilarious.  I thought VI was VI and VIm was VIm.

Thanks
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[newbie] dmg file in ~/ directory

2003-02-27 Thread Robert Wideman
Was wondering what these files are for and do.
They are in my home directory (/home/rwideman)

-rw---1 rwideman rwideman  13M Feb 19 09:09 gtk2.dmg
-rw---1 rwideman rwideman 6.8M Feb 19 09:09 qt3.dmg

Thanks
Rob

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RE: [newbie] Opera7

2003-02-26 Thread Robert Wideman
 now, if only i can wean myself off Outlook Express for my email.

I am with you on this one except i am using Outlook.  I cant find any way to
move data over.

However i havent setup an IMAP server, then moved my email to that and then
pull open evolution/sylpheed/etc and then pull it down.

Any other thoughts on how to move from Outlook/Express to Linux email?
I have tried Netscape/Mozilla but they dont allow exporting, GR.


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[newbie] urpmi updates

2003-02-26 Thread Robert Wideman
I have 2 systems with MDK9 installed.  One is my workstation that has been
running for a few months and urmpi/grpmi have
contrib/updates/plf/unsupported sites listed and working just fine.  Reading
the man pages for urpmi it uses the /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg file as the
configuration file of the sources.  I copied that over to the new system
that i am setting up and opened grpmi and all sources were there.  The only
problem is that contrib/updates/plf/unsupported sites were not enabled.  So
i enabled them and saved/quit.  I then opened sources manager again to check
to see if the enable took effect...NO it didnt.  I then went to CLI and
typed urpmi.update -a and it excluded the 4 sites again.  Is there away
that i can get them working and enabled?

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RE: [newbie] Opera7

2003-02-26 Thread Robert Wideman
 I'm not sure this will answer your question. i'm not sure this is your
 question, But  with Kmail  you can import Outlook Express mail.
 File / Import.

I didnt see anything about PST files.  I have attachements on a lot of my
emails.
Maybe i will give this a try since it is just a copy/paste onto my samba
drive.
Thanks
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RE: [newbie] urpmi updates

2003-02-26 Thread Robert Wideman
 You have to copy over the lists created for these sources on your system
 to the other server as well. I can't remember which directory it is, but
 search the archives as this has been asked before. (At work and Linux
 box at home)

Ah, no wonder.

Thats ok.  I installed the sources manually via urpmi.addmedia.
Thanks
Rob

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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Operating Systems to become obsolete?

2003-02-25 Thread Robert Wideman
 Subject: [newbie] ARTICLE: Operating Systems to become obsolete?

Very similar to www.linuxbios.com capabilities.  There are a few companies
starting to use Linux kernel as its bios now.
Rob


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[newbie] DVD::Rip (Video-DVDRip-0.50.3-1plf.i586.rpm)

2003-02-23 Thread Robert Wideman
Has anyone gotten Video-DVDRip-0.50.3-1plf.i586.rpm installed without
installing the gazillion transcode PLF libraries?

Rob


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RE: [newbie] plf src rpms

2003-02-23 Thread Robert Wideman
Ah, just didnt go up in the tree high enough.
Thanks.
Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles A Edwards
 Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 6:33 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] plf src rpms
 
 
 On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 03:50:20 -0600
 Robert Wideman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I would like to install DVD::Rip from the PLF's.  The problem is i
  would like to get the src rpm.  Does anyone know where i can find
  them?
 
 For DVD:Rip the src.rpm can be found on any of the PLF mirrors.
 Look in the src directory.
 
 
 Charles
 
 -- 
 Nuclear war would really set back cable.
 - Ted Turner
 -
 Mandrake Linux 9.1
 Kernel- 2.4.21pre4-10mdk
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RE: [newbie] Another one...

2003-02-23 Thread Robert Wideman
 http://sun-apple-microsoft.msconnectix.msjava.microsoft.com/j10-l
 imited-edition/beta5/eula.html

HAHA.  Funny.  Next will be www.mslinux.org is for real.

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[newbie] lots of perl scripts?

2003-02-23 Thread Robert Wideman
Is there a site, i know there is just dont know remember it, where there are
lots of perl scripts?  I have seen a developers site for scripting but cant
find it anymore.
TIA
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RE: [newbie] VNC for Mandrake

2003-02-22 Thread Robert Wideman
Try TightVNC.
Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Harv Nelson
 Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 11:27 AM
 To: Mandrake Newbie
 Subject: [newbie] VNC for Mandrake
 
 
 Is there a Mandrake specific vnc... .RPM?  Can't seem to locate 
 one anywhere.
 
 I've been trying to get RealVNC  to work across my local 
 network without 
 much success.  
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Harv
 
 
 

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[newbie] rpm installed but not showing up

2003-02-22 Thread Robert Wideman
I have mysql-3.23.52-1.3 installed as an rpm but its not showing up when i
do rpm -qa|grep mysql'.  I did a rpm --rebuilddb but nogo.  I was thinking
that doing a rpm -Uvh --force mysql-file.rpm would get it to show up in the
DB.  Any thoughts before i do that?  I dont want to mess up my DB.

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RE: [newbie] RC1 and network problem.

2003-02-21 Thread Robert Wideman
 I don't like installing programs from source confuses me too.

So how would you update a program if it was installed from source?  I have
always wondered this.

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RE: [newbie] GUI Perl Editor with color coding

2003-02-19 Thread Robert Wideman
  You might like to try kate (KDE advanced text editor),
 you've probably used
 it in it's lightweight incarnation kwrite. The feature I think you want
 [syntax highlighting] is:
  Document-Highlight Mode-Script-Perl (hence proving it is
 not a programming
 language :-)).

Wow.  Dont use KDE that much but its what i am using at the moment.  Didnt
even know that program was there.
Thanks
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[newbie] Apache and running cgi scripts

2003-02-19 Thread Robert Wideman
Apache and Perl/Mod_perl are installed.  The perl scripts work it i run
perl zipcodes.cgi.
Basically i am going through Graid Hunts Apache Server 1st Edition by
Charles Aulds.  The scripts work fine, they arent the issue.  Basically you
type in a zip code into the text box and then it runs a perl script
(zipcode.html runs zipcodes.cgi after inputing a zipcode into a text box and
clicking submit), which then access the MySQL server on the localhost.
The user/group apache owns all files in /home/httpd (this is not internet
accessible since i have another box running my outside sites) and the
permissions are set to 777.  The problem that i am having is that when i
click submit it comes up to a screen stating You do not have permission to
access /zipcodes.cgi on this server.


# tree /home/httpd/
/home/httpd/
|-- cgi-bin
|   `-- zipcodes.cgi
|-- html
|   `-- www
|   `-- zipcode.html
`-- perl
`-- cgi.pm

My httpd.conf and commonhttpd.conf are attached for info on how i have
apache setup.
]# rpm -qa|grep apache|sort
apache-1.3.26-6.1mdk
apache-common-1.3.26-6.1mdk
apache-conf-1.3.26-3mdk
apache-mod_perl-1.3.26_1.27-7mdk
apache-modules-1.3.26-6.1mdk
# rpm -qa|grep perl|sort
apache-mod_perl-1.3.26_1.27-7mdk
libpgperl-7.2.2-1.2mdk
mod_perl-common-1.3.26_1.27-7mdk
perl-5.8.0-13mdk
perl-Authen-PAM-0.13-3mdk
perl-base-5.8.0-13mdk
perl-CGI-2.810-3mdk
perl-Crypt-SSLeay-0.45-1mdk
perl-Data-ShowTable-3.3-7mdk
perl-DateManip-5.40-4mdk
perl-DB_File-1.804-3mdk
perl-DBI-1.30-2mdk
perl-devel-5.8.0-13mdk
perl-Expect-1.15-2mdk
perlftlib-1.2-16mdk
perl-GTK-0.7008-24mdk
perl-GTK-GdkImlib-0.7008-24mdk
perl-GTK-GdkPixbuf-0.7008-24mdk
perl-GTK-Glade-0.7008-24mdk
perl-GTK-GLArea-0.7008-24mdk
perl-GTK-Gnome-0.7008-24mdk
perl-HTML-Parser-3.26-3mdk
perl-HTML-SimpleParse-0.10-7mdk
perl-HTML-Tagset-3.03-5mdk
perl-IO-stringy-2.108-4mdk
perl-IO-Stty-02-2mdk
perl-IO-Tty-1.02-3mdk
perl-libwww-perl-5.65-4mdk
perl-Locale-gettext-1.01-6mdk
perl-MailTools-1.47-1mdk
perl-MDK-Common-1.0.3-16mdk
perl-MIME-tools-5.411-4mdk
perl-MP3-Info-1.01-2mdk
perl-Msgcat-1.03-12mdk
perl-Mysql-1.22_19-5mdk
perl-Net_SSLeay-1.18-3mdk
perl-Parse-RecDescent-1.80-6mdk
perl-PDL-2.3.3-4mdk
perl-Term-Readline-Gnu-1.12-6mdk
perl-Tk-800.023-9mdk
perl-URI-1.20-1mdk
perl-URPM-0.70-10mdk
perl-XML-Parser-2.31-5mdk
perl-XML-Twig-3.05-4mdk



TIA
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Re: [newbie] mysql

2003-02-18 Thread Robert Wideman
  [root@rwideman2 root]# mysql -u root mysql
  ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password:
NO)

 It should ask you for a password here (note that it said using
 password: no). The only reason I know why it wouldn't do so is when
 you have somewhere defined to use an empty password. Have a look into
 ~/.my.cnf resp. /etc/my.cnf (if either exists) and look for a line like

   password=

Nope.  No files...

 Regardless, you can force the command to ask you for a password by
 adding -p:

   mysql -u root -p mysql

WAHO, asked for password. WAHO I am in.

  [root@rwideman2 root]# mysql -u mysql mysql
  ERROR 1044: Access denied for user: '@localhost' to database 'mysql'

 Of course, some arbitrary user is not allowed to access the database
 where the access rights are stored (named mysql). But at least, it let
 you login.

Ye, i was thinkin the password just got totally corrupted then i couldnt do
anything the link i had up had on it...nothing worked.

  [root@rwideman2 root]# mysql --user=mysql
  Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.

 Same as above, it let you login as user mysql, but you have no right
 to access the database mysql.

This is my 2nd day (yesterday was my first) to mess with MySQLI am
definitely on a learning curve with this.


  I tried the password editing options listed on
  http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Access_denied.html
  and still cant fix it.

 That you have missed the part about --skip-grant-tables apparently?

Nope, i tried it, nogo.

 That is to be expected. Removing MySQL will not remove any database
 (in order to protect you from data loss) and the access rights are
 stored in a database. So you are working on the same databases with
 the same privilege settings.

I figured this but wasnt for sure.

 What do you mean by that? The database *files* should be under
 /var/lib/mysql. That you have some DB is obvious by the fact that you
 once managed to login (without any database, you would get something
 like could not find file 'host.frm as error).

Meaning i did NOT create a DB or do ANYTHING except change the root password
within MySQL.  Its the learning curve kicking in...

  I tried to verify the files that were
  installed by:

 The commands and results you quoted already show that apparently MySQL
 is installed correctly. You just have problems to login for whatever
 reason. But see the suggestions above.

  Is there away to completely remove mysql files and start over?

 If you de-install MySQL (via rpm) and then also do /var/lib/mysql,
 /etc/my.cnf and ~/.my.cnf, you should got everything MySQL-related.

MMM, will keep this in mind, but dont need it now.



Thanks a biggy.
Roba Newbie after 3 years.
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RE: [newbie] inetd.conf

2003-02-18 Thread Robert Wideman
 /etc/xinetd.conf

inetd has changed in recent months.  It used to be all configured in
inetd.conf/inetd, but it has changed to xinetd.conf/xinetd.  Inetd was all a
single file, xinetd has separated out each service into its own file in
/etc/xinetd.d/ directory.  There you will find the samething, just more of
it in a more controllable fassion.

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[newbie] GUI Perl Editor with color coding

2003-02-18 Thread Robert Wideman
I am writing a bunch of perl scripts for setting up on apache on linux.  I
am currently creating them in windows using editors b/c of the colors of
words and such.  Is there such a thing for Linux?  Obviously it is GUI.  I
love the EditPlus v2 GUI which is what i am using to do it in windows.
Thanks
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RE: [newbie] services reports failed but working

2003-02-17 Thread Robert Wideman
 when i do.
 #service network restart
 it will show
 Shutting down interface eth0[FAILED]
 Shutting down interface eth1[FAILED]
 .
 .
 .
 and it will bring up of course
 but all it says
 [FAILED]

If it never shutdown then it would obviously not start up since it is
already started.
Have you tried rebooting?

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[newbie] mysql

2003-02-17 Thread Robert Wideman
I just installed 3.23.52 along with the requireds.  I logged in and changed
the password.  Rebooted and now i cant login.

[root@rwideman2 root]# mysql -u root mysql
ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[root@rwideman2 root]# mysql -u mysql mysql
ERROR 1044: Access denied for user: '@localhost' to database 'mysql'
[root@rwideman2 root]# mysql --user=mysql
Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
Your MySQL connection id is 9 to server version: 3.23.52

Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer.

mysql

I tried the password editing options listed on
http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Access_denied.html
and still cant fix it.
I removed mysql and installed it again and i am having the same issue.
I have NO data, NO DB, nothing.  I tried to verify the files that were
installed by:
[root@rwideman2 root]# rpm -V MySQL-3.23.52-1mdk
.M.. c /etc/rc.d/init.d/mysql
But i have no clue to what this means other than that is the service script.
Is there away to completely remove mysql files and start over?


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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Windows XP password are useless

2003-02-16 Thread Robert Wideman
 On Sat 2003-02-15 at 22:48:16 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Couldn't help but LMAO when i read THIS one.
 
  http://www.briansbuzz.com/w/030213/

 There is nothing special about it. You have the same with
 Linux. Put in some install disk, choose rescue mode and you can
 access everything as root.

 With physical access to a standard PC, everything is possible
 (within about 15-30 mins), except if you encrypt your
 filesystems.

 The only new thing is, that you now have such a rescue disk for
 MS Windows XP by using a MS Windows 2000 CD, instead of having to
 make your own one.

The greatest linux rescue cd i have found to be at
ftp://ftp.redhat.de/pub/rh-addons/rescue-cd
Yes it is a Redhat disk.  Noone knows about this cd.  I know about it b/c at
Dell Server Support the RH guys told us about this for just in case
purposes.
It has everything you need on it.
Have fun.
Rob



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RE: [newbie] ARTICLE: Windows XP password are useless

2003-02-16 Thread Robert Wideman
 You can use Knoppix as well. Very easy to get hands on.

True, havent tried it yet.  Have seen it in Linuxformat the last couple of
issues.  Isnt there another bootable distro given out by LF lately?

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RE: [newbie] Test

2003-02-16 Thread Robert Wideman
Dont know about others but i miss about 1/5 of the mailing list emails.  If
you go read through the archives you will notice that you do NOT get a lot
of them. I gifured this out about amonth ago.

Rob



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RE: [newbie] Fun discussion question for the list

2003-02-16 Thread Robert Wideman
 Civileme = expert
 everyone else(self included) = newbie
 
 As always, the = operator flows to the left.

SOO true.
Thanks civilme for all the help you give.

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RE: [newbie] Logictech Quickcam Express

2003-02-16 Thread Robert Wideman
if you do a search on google.com for linux quickcam there is a crap load
of info for the express model working fine in linux for about the last 1.5
years
Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Miark
 Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:25 PM
 To: MDK Newbie list
 Subject: [newbie] Logictech Quickcam Express


 I can get a Quickcam Express at eBay for $14.95. Sounds like a
 good deal, and it appears to be supported in Linux, but I don't
 know how well it works in Linux.

 What say you? Is it a good buy for a Linux user?

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[newbie] problems with MySQL and i just installed it

2003-02-16 Thread Robert Wideman
I just installed a crap load of rpms (maybe like 20) to get Mysql installed
and updated via rpmdrake.  Its running and everything BUT rpm doesnt show it
do be installed, nor in rpmdrake.  MySQL 3.23.52 was installed at the same
time as gmysql too.

[root@rwideman2 myproj]# rpm -qa|grep mysql
libqt3-mysql-3.1.1-8mdk
libmysql10-devel-3.23.52-1.3mdk
gmysql-0.3.4-2mdk
libmysql10-3.23.52-1.3mdk
[root@rwideman2 myproj]# mysql
Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
Your MySQL connection id is 2 to server version: 3.23.52

Any thoughts??
Rob



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[newbie] tcpwrapper not installed by default on MDK 9.0

2003-02-15 Thread Robert Wideman
I thought this would have been a required package to be installed by default
but its not installed.  I have been browsing through my RH security book
Red Hat Linux Security and Optimization by Mohammed Kabir.  I was actually
going through the RH8 security section on NFS and it pointed to securing
portmon which pointed to tcpwrappers.  I then looked in the book to find
more detailed info than what i was finding on websites about NFS/tcpwrappers
and it showed that xinetd should be compiled running the configure script
with --with-libwrap=/usr/libwrap.a.  So i looked for the file libwrap.a
to see if it was installed and no it was not.  I then looked to check to see
if tcpd (tcpwrappers) was installed and no it was not.  I was wondering why
this was so.  Any thoughts?

Rob



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RE: [newbie] tcpwrapper not installed by default on MDK 9.0

2003-02-15 Thread Robert Wideman
 I'd tend to reckon because MDK is being designed and marketed as a
 desktop distro instead of a server distro - hence the emphasis on
 desktop stuff and not on dev stuff or server security stuff...but that's
 on my eyeballs...

True.  But there are still some security measures that you would want to be
able to take.
Win2k/XP/etc has IIS installed on them to be servers.
Rob



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[newbie] sound in MDK9

2003-02-15 Thread Robert Wideman
I have finally installed a soundcard (Live Value) into my linux boxthere
is a first for everything.
I installed the XMMS rpm and it plays sound fine.  The only problem is when
i switch to my windows box the windows box plays sound LOUDER than my linux
box.  I know that when i had windows on box boxes and souncards running in
box this box that linux is on played louder then the other box b/c the LIVE
card is more amplified than my A7V333 soundcard.
Other than on the XMMS display, is there anyother place in linux to adjust
the sound like in windows you have the speaker in the system tray AND the
volume coming from the program (winamp in this case).  I do not see any in
the menusconfiguration
Any thoughts?

Rob



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RE: [newbie] letting users use root commands

2003-02-15 Thread Robert Wideman
My issue is resolved.  i had tried this before but didnt work at the
time
rpmdrake has 755 permissions on it by default.  I had to change this to 775
AND add the user to wheel group.  Also i checked the groups out by group
username and made sure i was listed as correct
Working fine.  Thanks for the help Stephen.
Rob



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RE: [newbie] sound in MDK9

2003-02-15 Thread Robert Wideman
 In KDE: K - multimedia - sound -kmix.

Great, thanks.  Working.  Now its blowing MS out of the water.
Also can be used in Gnome.  Just type kmix in the CLI and an icon window
opens.  Right click it and select configure kmix.  Also left click it shows
the master volume.

Thanks
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RE: [newbie] Update database

2003-02-15 Thread Robert Wideman
 I thought I had set up a cron job (using webmin) to update the
 database every
 night.  Indeed, I thought I had seen indication that it had run,
 but today I
 have seen

 slocate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more
 than 8 days
 old

 How can I find what went wrong?  Could it be that I have set it
 as a user and
 it needs to be root?

This is to update locate's database, not the RPM database.
Do you know this?
To update RPM's database run rpm --rebuilddb, rpm --initdb to create a
new database.
Just making sure you know which one your updating.
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RE: [newbie] KDE3.1 for MD = 8.1?

2003-02-15 Thread Robert Wideman
 Will there ever be a KDE3.1 version released for 8.x?

Get the src files and rebuild them.
Rob

 Even guys that started of with 9.0 now have to be club members to get 
 kde3.1. This is a sad development. I see Mandrake more and more slip 
 away from being a free os distributor. I understand they have 
 difficulties so I payed for a regular membership  myself for 2 years in 
 a row now. You get very little with this. But more and more the regular 
 users are left out. This is very sad I find. I starts to stink for $s.

Yes, i see this happening more myself.

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RE: [newbie] Lovin' KDE 3.1

2003-02-15 Thread Robert Wideman
 we are not going to read anything from RW that is using so many caps. so
 there. PPPPpppthst.

I am just trying to get others to understand that the link that i send
should not be used.  Which it seems noone, maybe a very few, are not
actually using it.

Rob



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RE: [newbie] Tkinter widget layout question

2003-02-15 Thread Robert Wideman
 I have ordered books about this, but they take a while before
 they get here
 and I would like to get along a little in the mean time. (I
 know, patience
 is a virtue. ;)

Instead of waiting on them i usually go to BN store or something and read
them till i get them.
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RE: [newbie] tcpwrapper not installed by default on MDK 9.0

2003-02-15 Thread Robert Wideman
 Win2k/XP/etc has IIS installed on them to be serversdo you
 consider this a
 good thing? or a secure thing?

M$ knows nothing about security.  I dont even think its in their dictionary.
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RE: [newbie] choosing a new hostname

2003-02-15 Thread Robert Wideman
 I'm just a desktop user running MDK 9 but I would like to change
 the hostname
 that appears by default.

 [cyberhades@localhost cyberhades]$

 Is it possible and easy ?

hostname new-hostname will do it until you reboot.  If youw ant to change
it for good edit /etc/sysconfig/network.  Then just service network
restart.  I have done this many times and it works fine.

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RE: [newbie] Looking for good Mandrake SENDMAIL HOWTO

2003-02-15 Thread Robert Wideman
 I just wish the route was shorter.

Totally understand that one.

 I used to be happy with smail, until it started relaying other 
 people's spam.

Wow, that sux.

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RE: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand

2003-02-15 Thread Robert Wideman
 If Iraq refuses to
 comply, then Bush will give him a helping hand. As with many 
 Americans, he
 has my support.

Nuc IRAQ, NUC Iraq, Nuc IRAQ.

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RE: [newbie] compiling lame

2003-02-15 Thread Robert Wideman
Actually I was raised in Atlanta, GA. I've just lived in TX for 30
 years.  Came here in my mid 20's after a coupl'a years in Alaska, I 
 doubt I'll ever leave. Ya got'a have soul to live in The Republic of 
 Texas ;) 

GO GO GO the Lone Star State.


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RE: [newbie] This is getting way out of hand

2003-02-15 Thread Robert Wideman
 Another thing, when is america going to compensate the families
 of those who
 died in the terrorist attacks in england at the hands of the IRA which
 america supported, funded  and supplied military weapons to for
 decades???

When is Germany and the Axis powers from WWII going to compensate the entire
world for what they did?
Might want to think about that one first.

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RE: [newbie] Update database

2003-02-15 Thread Robert Wideman
 I'm running updatedb - is this not right?


What are you trying to update?
RPM or the locate command DB?

From the man page of updatedb:
   updatedb - update the slocate database
The slocate DB is not the same.  They have entirely 2 different jobs and
functions.  locate uses the DB created by updatedb, which is just a small
DB of all files on the entire system at the time updatedb was ran.
rpm --rebuilddb rebuilds the DB for the RPM's that are installed and
everything that is included in rpm files.

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