Re: [newbie] Digital Camera use with Linux
Dear Group I want to thank all of you for your helpful input on this subject. I wound up with an Olympus D-100 which I believe is even the Gphoto list only it shows a D-100z??? However in windows 2000 it does set up exactly like ultima notes below. So I have every reason to believe that this will work. I'm reading that one of the 8.1 features is that it will automatically put an icon on the screen when you hotplug the USB for a new driveassuming my interpretation of what they are saying is correct. That would be really nice, simple, and conveniant. So far have not had time to try the linux, but will let the group know if I get it working. Tazmun - Original Message - From: ultima To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; tazmun Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Digital Camera use with Linux USB is preferable to serial transfers, for speed and convenience. And you won't need Gphoto. I have a Fuji camera with Smartmedia cards and LM8.0, and the system reads the Smartmedia card just like a hard drive. If you get a USB smartmedia card reader, you can read and write to the card. Plg in the camera to the USB port and let the system detect it. Then you'll be able to mount it from /dev/sda1. On Tuesday 25 September 2001 01:55, you wrote: Both have USB working in Linux for printers at this point. Is the USB interface to downloading from digital cameras doable or am I better off to stay with the older serial transfer interface. I'm open to suggestions and Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
I'm not 100% sure I understand your problem correctly, but no where in this text do you mention running DOS fdisk command to resetup DOS partitions for windows support. I'm not that familiar with the linux form of fdisk but at least in the GUI disk convertors while they do a great job for linux partitions and may offer to set up fat 32 for dos, well it never worked for DOS for me. Try the DOS fdisk first and then format from the DOS disk as well, then give loading winders a try again. If this still doesn't work it's my opinion that you need to try the low level format or write test using the hard drive manufacturers utility. All data will be lost using any of these methods however. Don't mess with the low level format however until you have exhausted all other possibilities as it has been a subject on this list, that has in my opinion not been determined yet, whether or not it potentially can harm the drive. (I'm not sure if I just have really bad luck when it comes to harddrives, but it seems that every time I install any flavor of *nix on a drive that was formerly Winblows, I can't turn around and reinstall windows on the drive again without it not working or being awfully unstable. I'm not sure why this happens, it's a pity my 20gb drive no longer wants to work. I even went as far as to go back in the installer on Redhat, get in the fdisk, and create a new empty dos partition table, saved it, then rebooted, fdisk'd off a boot floppy, created a primary partition, rebooted, formatted it, then tried the installer. It didn't make it past the system checker thing at the beginning of the installer, gave some weird errors about the drive. Anyway, anyone else having this problem?)
Re: [newbie] Linux Mandrake vs RedHat
however, heavily biased towards mandrake since I tried Red Hat 7 first, on which I could get not a damn thing (zip, printer, mounting other partitions) to work, even when following the instructions in the official book. Or the fact that half the power tools won't run under 7 (i've heard this is a problem with a broken glibc). I know that it's fixable, but is that my job. I'm running Redhat 7.1 and everything was detected and installed with out problems on my box. But I've heard a lot of complaints about RedHat 7.0 were solved with the 7.1 as is common in X.0 editions as compared to later revised versions of the main version number. but every mandrake install i do, everything is detected and effortless. not to mention that I've found their tech support to be impatient with non-enormus-corporate-server problems. just my exp. I've recently contacted RedHat support with my simple problems on 2 different issues and got responce via the web in less then one business day. As far as support issues are concerned C-Nets reviews favor Redhat over Mandrake, but again I can't compare Mandrake support because this list is the only form I qualify for since I've not actually bought mandrake since 7.1. However this list can't be beat in my opinion either. Right now I think it's a horse apiece. I'm wondering about the kernel performance issues since my boxes are considered i686's though with PIII 800+ speed. That performance wise I need to compare somemore. However it is not immediately obvious to me at this point. I almost thought Redhat loaded the StarOffice 5.2 faster though.
[newbie] Domain or Workgroup
Hi Trying to figure out the networking for my 2 computers at home. Both have WIN 2000NT and dual boot linux, 1 with Mandrake 8.0 and one with Redhat 7.1. On the windows networking I never setup domains, but rather only a workgroup. Is this a windows proprietary thing? And thus do I need to change my windows boxs to a domain name and get rid of the workgroup? On the networking settings in Linux I see no provisions for workgroups at all here? If so, what will be different then I'm used to with just workgroups? Thanks ahead of time Tazmun :-)
Re: [newbie] Domain or Workgroup
Ok gang, I appreciate all of the replies and so it appears that workgroups are fine for now. However I'm completely lost here because no where in all the settings in linux do I see in either Mandrake or Redhat any provisions or field to enter the workgroup name. I'm afraid I'm pretty green on this networking issue and my total understanding is not the best. So my domain can simply stay localdomain for now and not cause any problems. I'm familiar with renaming the individual machines instead of local host. Do I not need to enter workgroups then? Presently my windows machines support file transfer on NetBEUI and TCP/IP. Previously it was only NetBEUI. Right now only a workgroup is entered, nothing about domain is even stated. Do I need to enter localdomain somehow in the windows machines? This wouldn't be easier maybe if I did start my own domain? - Original Message - From: etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tazmun [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Domain or Workgroup I think of it like this, using TCP=domain (it bee's da MAIN protacol) Winders and netbios/samba ain't for a whole DOMAIN, just for a workgroup. so, to use winders peer to peer, set workgroup. to use a OS that is ready for the whole Domain, you need to have your domian name set (the default is something like localhost (for the computer name) and localdomain (for the domain) you should have both a domain name and a workgroup name (they can be the same name but don't have to be) as well as a computer name, and a user name. On Sunday 05 August 2001 13:40, tazmun wrote: Hi Trying to figure out the networking for my 2 computers at home. Both have WIN 2000NT and dual boot linux, 1 with Mandrake 8.0 and one with Redhat 7.1. On the windows networking I never setup domains, but rather only a workgroup. Is this a windows proprietary thing? And thus do I need to change my windows boxs to a domain name and get rid of the workgroup? On the networking settings in Linux I see no provisions for workgroups at all here? If so, what will be different then I'm used to with just workgroups? Thanks ahead of time Tazmun :-)
[newbie] Fw: Linux boxes not connecting?
OOPS - Original Message - From: tazmun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jeferson Lopes Zacco [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 6:05 PM Subject: Linux boxes not connecting? TIA --Jeferson L. Zacco aka Wooky [EMAIL PROTECTED] -wrote- (I'll explain: even though I managed to configure my winmodem under LM8 it looks like my ISP won't support Linux boxes connecting to it. Sad. Even though I'm sure that getting your winmodem to work was quite a project, I suspect you may not be done there yet. I would contact your ISP if I were you and find out exactly what their standards are. The norm today as far as I know is V90 for 56K dialup. How well, even in windows, some modems support this differs. The OS being used should not make any difference just as long as the proper TCP/IP and V90 protocals are correctly handled. I think you'd find with a good modem you would connect the same in Linux as you do in winders. Winmodems typically don't connect as fast even in windows as a good modem will because the V90 standard is not correctly supported. I'm just a newbie too, but just my opinion. Tazmun
[newbie] Dual booting win 2000 with NTFS file system with aurora and lilo
Hi all I've been actually dual booting one of my systems with win 2000 NTFS file system for some time now with MD 8.0 with no problems. All seemed to work flawlessly and was set up on original install no muss no fuss. However at this point I'm also trying on another system to get Red Hat 7.1 going. This box also has win 2000 on it with NTFS file system. So far I've not figured out how to get the RedHat booted with out using the boot up disk I made. The way the Red Hat is installed is similiar to the mandrake with the Root filesystem being on hdb5hdb1 is win NTFS as well as hda is all NTFS. Is the lilo used in mandrake totally different or is it the Aurora giving me the dual boot screen at start up. I get a dark bluish screen(I'm somewhat color blind so don't quote me on this could be purple too) offering me NT, Linux, Floppy. I can edit the properties of this screen in the GUI config offered in Mandrake as well. The Mandrake distro claims that this particular version of Aurora is made especially for them in RPM information but that downloads for other distros are available as well on their site. Any idea where that site would be. In searchs thus far no luck. www.aurora.com seems to be a company of some sort not related to the aurora I speak of here. Even if I find this site is it likely it will solve my problem? I realize this is a bit off topic being it is redhat oriented, but this list seems more informative then the redhat install list. Ya gotta give Mandrake a high 5 on this issue since they seem to have left redhat in the dust on dual booting. Any suggestions here other then just run mandrake would be greatly appreciated... :-) Thanks Tazmun
Re: [newbie] Vacation Notice
I'm sure you'll be missed here Civileme by myself and others. Your contributions to help us learn are always very good. - Original Message - From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 5:23 PM Subject: [newbie] Vacation Notice I will be absent from posts to this list for the next two months. It is time from a vacation from my favorite hobby to turn my attention fully to my work tasks. LSB compliance testing, software testing, preparation of updates, and coordination of the crashtesters will replace helping people getting things running. I really enjoy this list, but I'm gone. Catch you in October. Civileme
Re: [newbie] Primary master hard disk fail
Is there anyway that I can reformat my disk either with Norton or using the HDD low level format in the BIOS? I have a feeling this hard drive is not dead but could have been hit with a virus? Strange characters show up with the boot up messages for hdb drive. I do not care about saving files at this point. I just want to be able to use my computer again and do a fresh install of LM8 again. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Sincerely, Marcia I suspect that Civileme and the others are correct and this drive is toasted, but a couple of thoughts come to me to check possibly. Regarding a possible virus, it's possible if it was dual booting windoze, but unlikely if running only MD 8.0. I find that to cause failure to the point your describing even in windoze it would be unlikely. I have however saw the bios spit out some weird machine language before when running systems that are overclocked too far. Are you sure your bios is set right for the processor your running etc. If the onboard clock has not been keeping time correctly this is a hint towards a failing battery. If your battery died or is weak on the motherboard your bios would lose all the settings upon shutdown and a normal boot after would not be likely. The latter was probably a long shot though. The low format utilities are not found in your bios, or at least I've never seen such a thing. I would suggest downloading the utilities offered by the hard drive manufacturer on line. The ones I've used are quite helpful and offer the proper low level format for your drive if necessary. They normally offer to help you make a bootable disk to boot on your floppy drive. The low level format is sometimes called the write test(specifically maxtor), but remember this wipes your drive completely clean and requires a fdisk and normal format afterwards. Sorry I don't know the Linux equivalents. I have had drives testing bad after a low level format test out ok. Depending on why the drive got messed up it might be actually damaged and even though temporarily running right will not last for long. If this happened because of a local power outtage though I'd say the odds are in your favor of a complete permanent recovery. But worst case scenario...new hard drives are a better, cheaper buy then I've ever seen before! Tazmun
Re: [newbie] CD-ROM lens cleaning?
I've never tried this, but I might be tempted to try a good blast of air with the tray open.but only if it is disfunctional already. I have never actually had one die that way yet(dusty lense). Mine all seem to just not be recognised by the motherboard bios or the operating system...even if replacing the ribbon...then its time to get a new one, or at least that has been the only fix I've found so far. Tazmun - Original Message - From: Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Frans Ketelaars [EMAIL PROTECTED]; NewbieMandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] CD-ROM lens cleaning? Just an FYI for ya. When you get a sufficient amount of dust on the lens of a CDROM drive, it's usually means that the drive is toast. Cleaning can help for a short time, but Cd cleaners usually contibute more harm to the lens than help, by knocking it out of alignment. After a few cleanings, the drive usually won't read well or at all. So the rule of thumb is that when you have to use a CD cleaner the first time, start saving for a new drive, and buy it as soon as possible. When the old one finally becomes useless, it's a 5 minute job to replace it. Oh, one more thing. DON'T put your box on the floor. That's where dust accumulates first. Put it on a desk, filing cabinet or something else. The higher the better. That'll prevent dust accumulation in your tower case. Dan LaBine On July 21, 2001 04:46 pm, you wrote: Hi, The subject says it all, unfortunately the cleaning CD I have seems to be intented for Windows users :( That's not such a problem (I can put the CD-ROM drive in someone's Windows machine). Just curious, is there a Linux solution? Thanks, -Frans
Re: [newbie] Swann SpeedDemon 56K V.90 External Modem
- Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Newbie Linux-Mandrake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Swann SpeedDemon 56K V.90 External Modem snip Heeheehee drivers needed for an external serial modem? I'll be amused for hours! Civileme snip Dang, you are easily amused, so did you hear the one about the traveling modem salesman? .eh, oh well, never mind. It really isn't as good as drivers for external serial modems. -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Careful...I think Civilme cracked a smile...heehee.me thinks he needed one :)
Re: [newbie] Managing Zip, CD-ROM, and floppy drives
I was able to change permissions for judy (user) with LinuxConf. I gave myself all the permissions I could. I still get annoying messages when I try to do things logged in as judy. Doing su at a console doesn't help alot because unless I know the command that brings up a graphical screen, I'm lost. But I'm plugging away. I may misuse the proper words here getting confused between linux and windows but I have been looking in the menu on kde.finding the target file...and thus I have the file name which is the command line. Linux doesn't seem to require the entire path of the file either which greatly surprised me. So to run kpackage I simply type kpackage after logging onto console as su. Tazmun
Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft
But regardless of whether she was a plant, she's abrasive, offensive, and utterly thankless to the Linux community as a whole. (Isolated thank yous on the list doesn't count.) And you sir are very close minded. You don't want to listen to new ideas and thinking if they don't fall into your narrow guidelines. I have reason to suspect that you would be perfectly happy if Linux remained an elite OS out of the reach of the average user putting yourself on some sort of pedestal. Sorry I don't deal well with snooty I'm better then you types. Judith gave the list some constructive criticism in hopes I'm sure that the right people might be listening. I distinctly remember her thanking the community for all the work that has been done and credited the community with developing a system with great potetial. Maybe not an exact quote but I think the meaning was close. All things change. They get better or get worse and/or die eventually. I believe the community knows this and realizes that Linux's future depends on innovation and new ideas and thinking. With that said I wouldn't be surprised if this community desires me to leave, but that's ok for I don't desire to be somewhere where speaking out for your convictions and ideas is not acceptable. Tazmun
Re: [newbie] Use of Linux
On Saturday 07 July 2001 12:43, thus spake Judith Miner: Not so! Please consider this from the perspective of the normal, standalone Windows user. We're not talking about large networks here, which Linux folks seem unable to comprehend many times. All I have ever dealt with are network of less than 100 nodes, and several were less than 10. That qualifies for small, yes? I see a major difference in the mindset here. Judith speaks of small as in stand alone or 2 or 3 computers as is my own home network I think one of the issures we are talking about security wise is the home user and how it is different from at the office network. That and how to tone things that aren't really necessary down some security wise at home for our own ease of use. A small LAN in Windows should be using the NetBEUI protocol, not TCP/IP. File and printer sharing is enabled *only* for NetBEUI. TCP/IP is *only* for your Internet connection and you do not have file and printer sharing enabled for TCP/IP. NetBIOS is not to be enabled for TCP/IP. So with no file and printer sharing for TCP/IP, your hard drive cannot be viewed by the outside world. That's nice in theory, but I've never seen such a setup. Most *small* networks are set up in one of two ways: all protocols are installed and running (the Microsoft default -- NetBEUI, IPX/SPX, and TCP/IP all at once), or else someone has gone and removed everything except TCP/IP, so that is the only protocol being used. On a home network it is not just a theory. That is exactly how my home network functions with the addition of a firewall provided by Zonealarm. I have no need to have file and printer sharing enabled for TCP/IP in my local area connection. Win 98 enables you to separately contol file and printer sharing for each protocol so it is completely practical there whether using a permanent internet connection or dialup. Now on my WIN 2K systems I can't disable file and printer sharing on TCP/IP if I'm accessing the internet via my ethernet card but when using a dialup it is very easy to do. You might be actually be able to have multiple Local area connections if you had multiple ethernet cards though...not sure how that would work out. If I see all protocols in use, I will cut out all but TCP/IP if I can, because running multiple protocols is extremely inefficient on a PC, and it hurts overall network performance. Also, NetBEUI is a very chatty protocol, in that hosts are constantly announcing themselves to the network, and so even on a small network, performance can suffer because of heavy network traffic. On my home network even though I wound up with 10/100 ethernet cards my hub is only 10T and I've never upgraded because it was always sufficient for my needs. By being chatty I assume you mean the part where under My Network Places that it has already searched and found the other computer and almost immediately snaps to the other computer without any delay. This is possibly less efficient but damn handy for me when I simply need to grab a file off the other computer in a hurry. My computers both are set to log on to the same user automatically from boot thus granting immediate file permissions from both computers. If I ever needed more speed I could always upgrade the hub. Microsoft has set up terrible defaults for someone setting up a small network. They are easily changed and you don't have to know much to do it, but out of the box the defaults are very unsafe and Microsoft is to blame for that. --Judy Miner I must agree with you there. Microsoft's defaults are horrible. And even their documentation stinks -- their own help files only show you enough to set up a basic network running all three protocols! It takes outside reading and/or experience to learn the right way of doing things. Ditto on the default settings being horrible! Tazmun
Fw: [newbie] Ghosting with Norton 2001 supports Linux EXT2 FS(mail returns)
Mine are coming back too even though they are posting on list. Tazmun - Original Message - From: Romanator [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: [newbie] Ghosting with Norton 2001 supports Linux EXT2 FS Scott, For some bizarre reason, I am getting mail returned, so I thought I'd post this for Scott and any one else asking about ghosting Linux. As I am not familiar with Ghost 6.5, Norton Ghost 2001 and Drive Image support Linux ghosting. However, if you are using Reiser FS, I'm really not sure. Why not go for a CD R writer?. In the long run, it's much cheaper. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Email Powered By Tux Email Utility
Fw: [newbie] Use of Linux
It is not perfect, but relaxation beyond that lets in the sort of nonsense you see in Windows all the time. Ok, I too am curious exactly what is meant here? I've had my computer in windows mode to all the sites I am aware of to check security and as far as I know it is secure as it is possible to be. My systems don't even allow file transfer on TCP/IP, they use another protocol for that so the TCP/IP is only for web access.My knowledge of hacking etc is very limited. It is implied that it is easier to hack a windows system then it is a Linux system...if this is so why and how?
Fw: [newbie] Use of Linux
- Original Message - From: tazmun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Matt Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Use of Linux My primary OS at this point it Win 2k, but dual booting with MD 8 on one of my systems. But even on my Win system I operate 100 % of the time as a user with administrative priviledges. I suppose this is somewhat risky but is worth the aggravation to me. I have it set so I don't even have to log in...it just goes right to my desktop from boot. MD will do this for a user but not sure about root. One of Win 2k's best points other then NT security is the included backup program which I have learned to use religiously and often. I'm not even sure how to start backing up Linux yet. But even if I blow the entire OS up in Windoze and have to reload the initial OS which I find unlikely I can have it back to it's present state in a few minutes using the backup program on another harddrive. I should use a tape drive but the hard drive is so fast it's hard to beat. Linux loads fast and easy initially from what I've seen. The point I'm making is wouldn't it be easier to just figure out how to backup the system properly and find or have the experts design a program that will do this similiarly to win 2K and be able to relax a bit on being logged in as root. This program may already exist for all I know. One of the things I find a bit confusing is I wish the file managers would show you what directories are mounted on what drive. I made a extra linux partition on my last install trying to have some backup and mounted the home directory on it. But now I'm confused because there are 2 home directories it appears. One under /root and one under / and I'm not even sure which one I have mounted on the separate partition now! Tazmun - Original Message - From: Matt Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: C.Heaven [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Use of Linux hey - being a relative linux newbie i also once switched to the always logging in as root method. i figured the same, im the only user and i am always logging in as su to do stuff anyhow so... well, after once having to ctrl alt backspace out of xwindows and subsequently loosing my whole linux install, and then later suffering ap owerloss and again losing my whole system both while logged in as root i realized the wisdom of logging in as user and then becoming su when i need to. actually between using alt f2 to run any program you want as root and the fact that mandrake 8.0 is much better at recognizing when you need to be root and prompting you for the password it isn't that much of a burden. speaking of mac, i'm curious, how does osx handle this (anyone know?) i can imagine them wanting to be as user simple as possible (ie. for software installs etc) but still maintaining the *nix system. matt --- C.Heaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On June 30, 2001 02:43 pm, you wrote: SNIP After getting mightily annoyed at having to run su in a console or run Super User file managers or give my root password time after time in order to run Mandrake Control Center or other root-only utilities, I now log in all the time as root. Before the geekoids on the list warn me of my impending eternal damnation,g let me explain my reasoning: I am the sole user. I am thus both root and judy (the only user). If I want to do something that will affect the all-important system files, I'm going to do it whether I'm logged in as user or root. So working as user does nothing but make me jump through more hoops to do what I'm going to do anyway. Why not avoid the hassle and work as root all the time? One password per session and no consoles for su-ing, I can unmount my Zip disks at will, I can deal with all files in all file managers, I can edit what I need to, I can install programs without problems. See, these security features can't stay the way they are if Linux is to attract even the Mac's share of the desktop market. Home business and consumer users will react the way I did and just get fed up and abandon Linux if they have to go through these endless permissions, logins, and passwords to manage their systems. In a home system, you're constantly installing or upgrading software or making changes to your display or your hardware. Any consumer GUI has to accommodate such usage, which is nothing at all like what a larger network requires. begin sarcastic comment Perhaps you should forward your comments to Microsoft in order to save their impending doom on the desktop due to implementing the very same super user concept in their NT based operating systems. end sarcastic comment
Fw: [newbie] Use of Linux
- Original Message - From: tazmun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jose Mirles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:06 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Use of Linux Then I think somewhere you missing the point. We know what it was originally intended for, but the modern Linux in my opinion is aimed at doing exactly that...being a single users primary OS. Nothing ever stays the same. If it does, it dies, I believe that to be universal law. If not for that law I wouldn't be trying so hard to figure out Linux because actually I'm a happy camper with Win 2K. But for how long will that be adequate? I'm guessing that I may be able to coast there until 2004 or 2005 at the longest. The base OS is greatbut Microsoft will not be happy leaving that alone so everyone of their updates is suspect to adding similiar technology that went into XP. IE 6 was a perfect example of that. Actually, it is not well said. Unix was never meant to be a single user's OS. It was then and now meant to be a networking OS. Thus the reason for the security features.
Fw: [newbie] Use of Linux
I suppose burden is in the eye of the beholder. I find constant typing of the root password to be annoying in the extreme and results in a fair amount of lost time if you have to do this several times in a few hours. Especially when it is a really goofy file name with dozens of agravating numbers and underscores altenating with dashes.ag!!! I couple of clicks would be so heavenlylol. Tazmun
Fw: [newbie] curious ....
Even though we are all newto Linux, don't you think we owe it to the Linux community in general to read up on it and see what it is all about, instead of just jumping in and then thrashing it because it isn't Windows? Don't misunderstand I am very grateful for all the work that has been done for love of Linux and the community free of charge. I'm not thrashing it at all as I think it has wonderful potiential. I'm just afraid that too many in the developement fields are holding back and resisting change at the wrong time. The windoze XP messup is the perfect opportunity to shift this thing into high gear and offer users another option if there ever was one. But for that to happen you have to have something to offer that is easy to use for the average person. It's about numbers and marketing not old school idealisms. Tazmun
Fw: [newbie] curious ....
As far as market share goes, I think you'd have to take FreeBSD out of that list. FreeBSD is the ISP UNIX. It's a downsized UNIX, but still a step above Linux. I don't know of anybody personally that's using FreeBSD as a desktop/workstation (Meanwhile I do have a FreeBSD server at home.) and I've heard of only a few that really do. I've never seen a boxed set of FreeBSD in any store, and I don't spend much time at the webpage to see if they even sell the CDs for the OS. But as a server it's amazing. Daily security reports, I love it's use of the /usr/ports making new software installs very nice and very simple. Actually a friend of mine deposted a copy of 4.4 FreeBSD Lite on my desk the other day including the approxiamately 800 page manual. I've seen boxed sets for sale at our local Staples office supply store. I threw the first cd in let it boot and took a quicky peek and it appeared to be a major pain for the unaccomplished here. MD at least from the 7.1 (first version MD I ever ran) version totally stomps this program on installation at least it appeared so to me. So I got scared and ran away and the disks still sitlonely and unused...lol. Tazmun
[newbie] /mnt/windows problem
Hi Romanator, I did download the new version of drakfont,however,i could not install any windows fonts (i have win2k on NTFS).How can i mount an NTFS partion ?. Yes how do we mount an NTFS partition since I had the same problem. I tried to mount it on install but it kept saying there was some sort of error and the only solution it provided was to erase the entire drive! Needless to say, I was not amused. Tazmun
Re: [newbie] /mnt/windows problem
Thanks Frans, I suspected as much since NTFS makes many things more difficult. Sometimes I wonder if it's worth it since win 2K can run fat32 as well. But it seems more stable in the NTFS on mine Tazmun - Original Message - From: Frans Ketelaars [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] /mnt/windows problem tazmun wrote: Hi Romanator, I did download the new version of drakfont,however,i could not install any windows fonts (i have win2k on NTFS).How can i mount an NTFS partion ?. Yes how do we mount an NTFS partition since I had the same problem. I tried to mount it on install but it kept saying there was some sort of error and the only solution it provided was to erase the entire drive! Needless to say, I was not amused. Tazmun AFAIK, it's _very_ dangerous to mount NTFS partitions (file system corruption!) -Frans
[newbie] Thank You
Hello Just wanted to take a second to thank all those here who have taken the time to answer my questions on this list in the past. Sometimes Linux winds me up for a time and I have to just go away for a few days until I'm ready to apply myself again. Due to that lag time it may seem like I've been unappreciative of the help and suggestions given here. But I do go back and read and try all the ideas given. Thank you again. I have a long ways to go to get every thing where I want it and a lot to learn yet, but due to this list I have made some definate progress. Respectfully Tazmun
Re: [newbie] TT fonts in Konqueror -- Failure?
I have been dissappointed in netscape and konqueror with the displayed fonts. Some of them are absolutely horrible to try to read. I can change the encoding to something to improve it sometimes, but it will never stay set there. I'm puzzled as to why this is such a problem compared to windoze. The problem also occurs in Staroffice's browser. This was also a problem for me in previous versions, running MD 8.0 now Tazmun Dear friends: Am I missing something or is it not the case that the same True Type fonts that look (and print) so beautifully in Netscape 4.x and Mozilla (I have a dual-boot LM 8.0/Win98) fail in Konqueror? I have tried every trick in the book (increasing the size of all the Konqueror browser fonts to Large and Huge) and still the results are very disappointing (using the N.Y. Times home page as a yardstick for comparison) compared to Netscape/Mozilla, where they are in every sense equal to the True Type fonts in Windows. By the way, the same goes for Kword's use of True Type fonts. If you increase the zoom size to 130%, Kword will render the True Type fonts with great beauty and elegance, and the printing will be just as fabulous. Why is it, may I ask, that some applications in Linux use the True Type fonts and some don't? And why is that Kword makes the TT fonts look so good, while Konqueror, from my experience, fails at this key function? I hope a Konqueror developer is listening. If I am wrong, I would like to be corrected. If I am right, I hope this problem is resolved soon. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Kword 1.0 survey -- Solid? Reliable? Feature-rich?
I haven't used it much yet, but from what I can see my only comment is that I didn't see any support for microsoft office formatted files like you see in Staroffice. Tazmun - Original Message - From: Benjamin Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 7:26 AM Subject: [newbie] Kword 1.0 survey -- Solid? Reliable? Feature-rich? Dear friends: Just taking an informal survey as I consider switching from StarOffice to Kword (the current Kword 1.0 version in LM 8.0, NOT the latest Koffice 1.1 beta). What's your verdict? Is Kword 1.0 reliable? Solid? feature-rich? Are you happy with it? If so, did you switch from StarOffice or another word processing to Kword? I personally like it a great deal but have had little experience with it. So, before I make any commitment to it, it would be good to know what you folks think of it. Thanks so much. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] java not working in Staroffice 5.2
Ok I'm looking for that version but perhaps I'm blind. Could please you provide me with a link to that software please? I had also tried just the jre previouslybut it was the new 1.3.1 version.the only other one I see is the 1.3.0 version offered at this time. tazmun - Original Message - From: Barry Premeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dave Miers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mandrake newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] java not working in Staroffice 5.2 Dave Miers wrote: I have MD 8.0 installed and also 5.2 staroffice. Everything seems to be working except for the java in Staroffice. It works fine in Netscape and Konqueror The program did find a runtime environment for jdk 1.3.1 by sun which I installed ahead of time. Well at least I ran the RPM for the JDK fileit was unclear if there were any other steps I needed to take to get the virtual machine working. I fought and fought to get this far and then the silly thing won't work in java based sites..lol. Your help is greatly appreciated! frustrated tazmun Sun's site says that it will only recognize the Blackdown 1.1.8 version. You can get by with just the jre rather than pull down the full jdk edition. I extracted the *.tar.gz in my /usr and the next time I opened so5.2, it automatically detected it. No further configuration was necessary. Barry
Re: [newbie] SNF and cable modem
I receive my internet service through Charter Pipeline here in Wisconsin. We have always had up to 3 ip addresses here available by simply using a hub with a uplink port at no extra cost. You might want to check out other ISP's for a better deal with the extra IP addresses. 3 Ten Meg mailboxes is also standard with Charter as well as a 10 meg webpage. Tazmun - Original Message - From: Ilya Sterin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] SNF and cable modem Your modem is only configured to handle on IP address and therefore you need to resink it every single time you turn on one computer or another. You can't have both on the internet at the same time, unless you have a router. I had the same problem, a quick phone call to the cable service provider and a extra 6.95 charge a month got me another IP address and now both computers can connect. Ilya Sterin From: Ryan Windham To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] SNF and cable modem Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:05:21 -0400 I am running SNF with two netgear fa-310tx. I am able to log on to the linux box with my win98 box, But I can't get to the internet. Since the modem uses a dynamic IP, how should I set up eth1? Thanks for any help. Snale _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [newbie] A good Motherboard
Civileme Are you saying the mother board will not work period? Or are you rather saying the raid portion of the motherboard will not workie. the onboard promise adaptor will be supported for the 100 ATA harddrive rate in Linux but the Raid portion will not work Tazmun - Original Message - From: OOzy Pal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Brandon Caudle [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] A good Motherboard Hi Are you saying that this motherboard will not work with Linux? If this true then I am screwed. http://tw.msi.com.tw/showroom/mainboard/eng/k7tturbo-R.htm --- Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 01 June 2001 01:25, OOzy Pal wrote: I have already ordered my system with MSI K7T Turbo-R I hope it works fine. Even though it is RAID but I am running it as a normal IDE. I hope you realize you have the right to turn it around unopened and I STRONGLY recommend you do so. I can more or less guarantee it will NOT work. Make it the manufacturer's problem not yours--you bought a board with WinIDE. Civileme --- Tim Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *sigh* HTML in email is EVIL! But back to the point... the ASUS A7V133, is a VERY NICE motherboard. That's what I'm running right now. It supports 266 FSB, it has a Promise ATA Controller on board, which will handle 4 IDE devices. IT then comes with the regular IDE controller that all motherboards come with. So you could have 8 IDE devices in the machine provided you have the room in the case and then room on the power supply for the 8 devices. But if you want recommendations for a motherboard, you really need to know what kind of processor you're looking to go with. The A7V133 is a AMD motherboard. I'm not sure if they make a motherboard like that, that supports Intel. The motherboad is about $150-$160, but it's worth it! tdh T. Holmes UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! | hy, | i dont know if there are special drivers for linux but the asus a7v133 has | 4 ide channels. 2 are normal ide's, so they work under linux for sure. | the other 2 are controlled by a promise chip (for win98 you need a driver | from promise for them). | the connectors can be used to access 4 ide peripherals, or the | 2 primary ide's can be used to build a raid-0 array. | regards | mp | | | | | Am Montag, 28. Mai 2001 00:37 schrieb Brandon Caudle: | htmlDIV | Pthe maximumis 4 ide devices//P | Pnbsp;/P | Pbrandon caudleBRBR/P/DIV | DIV/DIV | DIV/DIVgt;From: Pauwel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DIV/DIVgt;To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DIV/DIVgt;Subject: Re: [newbie] A good Motherboard | DIV/DIVgt;Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 20:04:41 +0200 | DIV/DIVgt; | DIV/DIVgt;The problem is there are no MB's who have more than 2 | IDE-connectors DIV/DIVgt;(as far | DIV/DIVgt;as I know, so the best is getting an extra card with again | two DIV/DIVgt;IDE-connectors on it) | DIV/DIVgt; | DIV/DIVgt; | DIV/DIVgt; | DIV/DIVgt; | DIV/DIVgt;Original Message Follows | DIV/DIVgt;From: OOzy Pal [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DIV/DIVgt;To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DIV/DIVgt;Subject: [newbie] A good Motherboard | DIV/DIVgt;Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 08:46:50 -0700 (PDT) | DIV/DIVgt; | DIV/DIVgt;Hello | DIV/DIVgt; | DIV/DIVgt;Anyone knows a good motherboard that works fine with | DIV/DIVgt;Linux and has more than two IDEs (because I have 2 | DIV/DIVgt;hard drives, CD, CDRW, and a zip drive, so I need more | DIV/DIVgt;than 2 IDEs) | DIV/DIVgt; | DIV/DIVgt;OOzy | DIV/DIVgt; | DIV/DIVgt;= | DIV/DIVgt;Regards, | DIV/DIVgt;OOzy | DIV/DIVgt; | DIV/DIVgt;What is the purpose of life? | DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt;__ | DIV/DIVgt;Do You Yahoo!? | DIV/DIVgt;Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices | DIV/DIVgt;http://auctions.yahoo.com/ | DIV/DIVgt; | DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt; | _ DIV/DIVgt;Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail | at | DIV/DIVgt;http://www.hotmail.com. | DIV/DIVgt; | DIV/DIVgt; | DIV/DIVbr clear=allhrGet your FREE === message truncated === = Regards, OOzy What
Re: [newbie] hang on boot right after install
This may have well been covered before but it is easy to overcomplicate things sometimes. I believe in all Linux Systems in your CMOS Setting under PNP there is a choice on most motherboards for PNP OS installed Yes or No Many windows boxes have this checked yesfor linux it must be checked no to the best of my knowledge. Tazmun On Monday 28 May 2001 06:55, Adato,Leon,SOLON,ITSS wrote: I have tried 4 times to install Mandrake 8, with the same problem each time. The installation runs fine (always recommended, but I've selected a variety of options - no networking, minimal apps, etc). I've installed on two different machines. Each time, after the installation runs (no errors) the machine restarts, and I get the following three lines: LILO 21.7 boot: loading linux After that the system just sits there. Is there something stupid I'm missing? Is there perhaps a problem with the install CD? Is there a way to check out a log file? Any help is greatly appreciated. leon adato Yes. Take the CD you used to install and boot from it then hit F1 and type rescue without the quotes. When the system comes up (I hope you remember what partition you assigne to the root (/) filesystem... In this example, I'll assume /dev/hda5), put a formatted floppy in your floppy drive and do the following: # mount /dev/hda5 /mnt(remember your / partition is to replace /dev/hda5) # chroot /mnt # mount /dev/fd0 # cp /root/dedebug.kog /mnt/floppy # dmesg /mnt/floppy/dmesg.log # sync # umount /dev/fd0 Take out the floppy (dos formatted, of course, and put it in a running system of linux or ugh that other one and send me dedebug.log and dmesg.log, and maybe we can figure out what is happening. If this does not work, we can pretty well confirm that your hardware cannot run with our system. Civileme -- There is no agony like bearing an untold story inside of you. - Maya Angelou, poet (1928- ) -- GLOBE ESM Team Nestle 440-264-6136
Re: [newbie] A good Motherboard
mandrake as early as 7.1 autodetected and setup support for my promise contoller cardworked fineI suspect it would work fine onboard as wellalthough I don'tknow for sure Tazmun - Original Message - From: mp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brandon Caudle [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] A good Motherboard hy, i dont know if there are special drivers for linux but the asus a7v133 has 4 ide channels. 2 are normal ide's, so they work under linux for sure. the other 2 are controlled by a promise chip (for win98 you need a driver from promise for them). the connectors can be used to access 4 ide peripherals, or the 2 primary ide's can be used to build a raid-0 array. regards mp Am Montag, 28. Mai 2001 00:37 schrieb Brandon Caudle: htmlDIV Pthe maximumis 4 ide devices//P Pnbsp;/P Pbrandon caudleBRBR/P/DIV DIV/DIV DIV/DIVgt;From: Pauwel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVgt;To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVgt;Subject: Re: [newbie] A good Motherboard DIV/DIVgt;Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 20:04:41 +0200 DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt;The problem is there are no MB's who have more than 2 IDE-connectors DIV/DIVgt;(as far DIV/DIVgt;as I know, so the best is getting an extra card with again two DIV/DIVgt;IDE-connectors on it) DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt;Original Message Follows DIV/DIVgt;From: OOzy Pal [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVgt;To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVgt;Subject: [newbie] A good Motherboard DIV/DIVgt;Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 08:46:50 -0700 (PDT) DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt;Hello DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt;Anyone knows a good motherboard that works fine with DIV/DIVgt;Linux and has more than two IDEs (because I have 2 DIV/DIVgt;hard drives, CD, CDRW, and a zip drive, so I need more DIV/DIVgt;than 2 IDEs) DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt;OOzy DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt;= DIV/DIVgt;Regards, DIV/DIVgt;OOzy DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt;What is the purpose of life? DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt;__ DIV/DIVgt;Do You Yahoo!? DIV/DIVgt;Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices DIV/DIVgt;http://auctions.yahoo.com/ DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt; _ DIV/DIVgt;Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at DIV/DIVgt;http://www.hotmail.com. DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVgt; DIV/DIVbr clear=allhrGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at a href=http://explorer.msn.com;http://explorer.msn.com/abr/p/html
Re: [newbie] How about processors
I'd be awfully tempted to try the AMD for finacial reasons. I believe all the P4's require the new expensive rambus where if you get the right mobo the thunderbirds can use the DDR ram that is quite cheap.(check out micostar's offering.don't have a clue for Linux though, all the chipsets etc are awfully new) BTWwith any of these processors forget all about the Abit BE6 seriesway to fast for it. Tazmun - Original Message - From: OOzy Pal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 4:34 PM Subject: [newbie] How about processors Hello Guys I am going to be running mainly Mandrake 8.0 and later and Windows 2000 Pro. Which of the following do you recommend. PIII 1.3Ghz P4 1.4Ghz AMD Thunderbird 1.33Ghz 266 OOzy = Regards, OOzy What is the purpose of life? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Modems?
That's going to depend a whole bunch on whether or not your still going to have an ISA interface in your new mobomost ISA modem would be well supported I think(I prefer 3Com-US Robotics)however if you only have PCI slots you really have to be careful your not just getting a winmodem even though the advertising says it's not because they LIE!!!. I would also check hardware compatibility lists and make sure you match the exact model number posted. - Original Message - From: OOzy Pal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 5:29 PM Subject: [newbie] Modems? Sorry guys for asking so much. I am trying to buy a new system and want to make sure that it Linux-ok. Anyone knows a good modem that work fine with Linux? = Regards, OOzy What is the purpose of life? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] A good Motherboard
http://www.abit-usa.com/english/index.htm I suggest you view the preceeding URL for info on Abit motherboards. They have a product line that supports Pentium and AMD with all the modern chipsets available today for the most part with 4 eide ports(be aware that the extra ports require another IRQ if your already starved here). The BE6 series of motherboards are slot 1 type for Pentium or celeron processors only includingthe coppermines series(FC-PPA flipchip orPPGA celeron with adaptor as well will function). They are based on a 440BX chipset that was originally designed for 100 Mhz bus only. However Abit retails one board in the 440BX that is advertised as a 133 Mhz board. In my bios setup for different processors it does automatically set the settings for the 133 processor line in my BE6 II without going into the custom overclocking settings Abit was always noted for. If I already had a processor that was 133 though I think I would choose a chipset that was designed for that speed such as the intel 815 chipset. Personally I would stay away from the 810 chipset though since it seemed extremely slow to me on the few boards I occasion to encounter. The 440BX chipset however while old by todays standards was almost too good. Intel and others had one heck of a time beating it and I feel it is still a good choice for up to 1 Gig pentium III processors. However you must make sure the bios will go that high. On abits site when taking note of the processors that each individual board will run.don't count that board out if it doesn't support your processor until after you review the bios flashes available for that board. Although you should consider availability of a lower speed processor to do the initial bios flash. Some would say that it would be a poor investment because it is not upgradable very much at this point. Personally I feel that is a rather weak argument these days because things are going so fast that the only true upgrade almost always requires replacing the whole motherboard to make enough of a change to say you really did an upgrade. Latest and greatest is not always best because it's likely to be buggy...just as the boards I'm recommending were to begin with. And I think its safe to say older reliable chipsets are much more likely to be properly support by Linux. Another one of Abit's most redeeming qualities is that their support teams continue to provide upgrades to most Abit motherboards as much as possible. Sometimes not fast enough...lol...but compared to other manufactures I personally would place them in the top 4. The other brands I like are Asus, Microstar, Supermicro, but beware on boards like Supermicro where processor multiples and bus speeds are set with pin settings thus limiting upgradeability via a simple bios flash. Good Luck Tazmun - Original Message - From: OOzy Pal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tazmun [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] A good Motherboard Does the BE6-II supports 133Mhz Bus? --- tazmun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could go with one of Abit's BE6 series..they have a total of 4 connectors for EIDE.the second 2 connectors are an onboard High Point Technologies controller that although it is not true SCSI sets itself up that way.depending on the board you buy(BE6, BE6 II, or BE6 II rev 2 with 100 ata and supposedly raid support of some sort) Personally I have used the BE6 II and had no difficulties setting it up in Linux initially. I've never really gotten all that far with Linux yet though so really can't say how well it works out as a long term solution. The SCSI ports are fine for hard drives but I wouldn't run any CD roms with them. For windows base OS's I usually formated and installed the original OSon the regular EIDE interfaces to avoid errors that have been known to occur on the HPT controller interface. Although after recent bios flashes the reliability has gone way up and I did format and install WIN ME directly from the HPT interface. There may be a work around for thisbut if you install Linux on a different interface other then you are planning to actually use big problems occur since Linux names drive names differently then Windows and the controller drives start with hde instead of hda. As far as the latest version with supposed RAID support if I remember right it was discussed on this group somewhat that some of Abits motherboards RAID is not true Raid and only works on window based boxes. Whether this causes any other problems if just used with out the raid(assuming it can be switched off somehow) I don't know and I have never had the opportunity to try this latest board of the BE6 series. Tazmun - Original Message - From: Pauwel Demeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 1:04 PM
Re: [newbie] Performance issues with Mandrake 8
These results are not for sure, because right now I'm not sure if I have a defective promise ultra 66 card or a motherboard that is having a conflict with the promise card.(abit BF6 motherboard, 20 gig 7200 rpm 100ATA Maxtor Drive, 30 gig 7200 rpm 100ATA Maxtor Drive, promise ultra 66 pci controller card non raid version).and I obtained a 100 ata maxtor harddrive same time as different motherboard. The card did work fine previously with a 66 dma harddrive until the drive died and was sent in for warranty. Approximately the same time the secondary EIDE port on the previous motherboard died(controlling cd roms only though) However the maxtor utility program is indicating that my system bios does not support large drivestake out the promise card and all is well with no errorsthe drives formated with the promise card did have problems with partition tables and were showing like 100 Mg of the drive was being unused and not formatted at all. Fdisked and reformatted and all is normal again without the promise card. My theory at this point is that there may be a possibility that some controller cards rated at 66 ata with the new 100 ata drives are not compatible, however I have no sure way to test this.but if I were in the market...I'd definately go for the 100 ATA version. Surprisingly the drives now running directly on the EIDE ports have lost little performance, in fact it seems like the access time is even better, especially for small amounts of data. The only place I notice any loss is when opening large programs that require a lot of data from the harddrive to open. Boot speed has not changed at all it seems. My computer is rock stable now in windows and MD8.0 and seems to be much better then any system I've ever had for stability...so with these controller cards are we trading off reliability and stability for the speed!!! Any other opinions on this subject? Tazmun How important is ATA 100 anyway for RAID 0??? Should I even be concerned about that. I'm think that because I have 2 ATA 100 HDs (IBMs), that it would be a waste to get the 66 controller. Am I just being foolish? Is the 66 fine?
Re: [newbie] Star Office and Netscape start faster in windows??????????? and comments about Linux practicality
Sorry Lee I'm not knowledgeable of Linux piped Office programs to have an opinion there. But from my view point the office system needs not only to be compatable with Micosoft office but work similiarly enough the users can free go back and forth between the two with out it being a big deal for it to become practical for the business world. I'm not at all sure Linux is going to serve my purposes at all. As it has been pointed out Linux is not as well suited yet for multimedia as windows and until software is actually designed for Linux and not just duplication from windows I suppose it will be hard to achieve equality. Personally I find it weird sending out email that is not html compatible and would never consider using an email client that couldn't support html since the multimedia experience is very important to me. I know some of my comments upset some of the purists here and I see their side to a point. However I am only seeking a means to a purpose. I don't like being subject to a dictator like Microsoft nor do I like their prices. But user friendly software that does not take a guru to run it is essential to me. I believe Linux has come a long ways down that road and hopefully it will continue. But those that want to promote and make Linux the new wave of the future need to remember that most of us are not guru's and nor to we desire to be. I build custom computers for sale and would love to be able to sell new and used systems with a freely distributable OS like Linux in them. However my game is more hardware and speed of that hardware, so the OS that is going to give me the best performance is more of a concern then anything else. I'm not a programmer and nor do I feel that is in my future. Mandrake has come further so far then any other distribution so far that I have seen in being able to do configuration through the graphical interface. I would plead with the guru's monitoring this list to use those graphical interfaces in their explanation's of the how to's as much as possible rather then using the command line for I believe the future of Linux becoming a major player in the industry depends on leaving the command line behind. Companys can hire a programmer to do setup if necessarybut in a world of employees used to windows...retraining all of them is not going to be a viable alternative. - Original Message - From: Lee To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Star Office and Netscape start faster in windows??? Hi Taz, Wanna ask ya,if you don't mind, what would you reccomend instead of star office ? k-office perhaps ?? Just curious..and thank you. Lee star office? CRAP. quite simply. why are you using it? that's what you really need to think about man. it does SOME things really nice but other things? it just plain SUCKS at. it's not a bad piece of software, but there's a LOT to be desired. just because it's made by Sun and it's free doesn't mean it's going to kick ass.
[newbie] Star Office and Netscape start faster in windows???????????
Hi all.just a quickie question that has been bugging me. I was under the impression that the Linux OS was a more efficient program then windowsbut the only 2 programs I have for true comparison since I run them on both OS's is Star Office Netscape 4.7. The windows OS unfortunately kicks linux ass oh so terribly bad! Does this mean I don't have the OS correctly configured or is this typical behaviour? Oh yeah, I'm still running the Mandrake 7.1 version waiting for the 8.0 to hit the stores and windows ME on a 850 PIII based system with a promise card running 66 dma hard drives. I know I had problems when I check the option for (I can't quote exactly what it was called)maximizing hard drive performance. It noted that problems with this are common and suggests that you don't try to use this option. Any thoughts on this subject?? Thanks Taz
[newbie] problems installing runtime environment file from Sun
Hi All I am very new to Linux and the command line is very intimidating yet. I have downloaded a supposedly self extracting file (.bin) as well as the rpm version of the file. They suggest in the install directions that this be done from the command line and tell you that by using a command(./) on both of the files will start a script asking if you agree to their agreement first. This command on either file just gets me a permission denied error whether I'm logged on as a user or as root. This file is to install the runtime java enviroment required by Staroffice for any java applications to function. The file will not run in kpackage in the rpm version either..if you try to execute it it will error and say is it not executeable. I am running Mandrake 7.1 for now. I've also tried the rpm -ivh and -iv commands to no avail either.help please.I hate the Redmond gang but this is driving me nuts too!! Anyone helping here please assume I know nothing of the command line in their directions. Tazmun
Fw: [newbie] problems installing runtime environment file from Sun
- Original Message - From: tazmun To: Franki Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] problems installing runtime environment file from Sun Thanks all for your suggestions on this installation. By changingpermissions and using midnight commander I was able to get it installed.Now all I have to do is get Star office to recognise it. consideringreinstalling star office hoping it will see the environment.so far nogo. Every step with Linux is a struggle, but I hope it pays off. I'mhoping 8.0 will be an improvement as far as user friendliness. Plan to buythat as soon as it comes out in the stores. Can anyone tell me if thedownloads for 8.0 have as much of the extra software included as theofficial released version that is for sale?- Original Message -From: FrankiTo: tazmunCc: Rules Address for MDKSent: Friday, May 04, 2001 3:08 AMSubject: RE: [newbie] problems installing runtime environment file from Suntype in mc at the command line, (you need to have midnight comanderinstalled, but you probably do anyway)That will ring up a lovely blue screen you can navigate around in,, (selfexplanitory when you see it..)go to where your rpm is,, then highlight in in MC (again, self explanitorywhen you see it.) and press enter...you will go into the rpm where you can see two options, upgrade and install,choose the one you want, highlight it and press enter,, it will then installor upgrade it for you...Thats they way I did things before getting more familiar with thingsmyself...I think mc is a very underrated tool considering what it adds to theconsoleregards -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tazmun Sent: Friday, 4 May 2001 2:18 PM To: newbie Subject: [newbie] problems installing runtime environment file from Sun Hi All I am very new to Linux and the command line is very intimidating yet. Ihave downloaded a supposedly self extracting file (.bin) as well as the rpmversion of the file. They suggest in the install directions that this bedone from the command line and tell you that by using a command(./) on bothof the files will start a script asking if you agree to their agreementfirst. This command on either file just gets me a permission denied errorwhether I'm logged on as a user or as root. This file is to install theruntime java enviroment required by Staroffice for any java applications tofunction. The file will not run in kpackage in the rpm versioneither..if you try to execute it it will error and say is it notexecuteable. I am running Mandrake 7.1 for now. I've also tried therpm -ivh and -iv commands to no avail either.help please.I hate theRedmond gang but this is driving me nuts too!! Anyone helping here please assume I know nothing of the command line intheir directions. Tazmun
Fw: [newbie] problems installing runtime environment file from Sun
oops sorry about the html coding..running most of my email yet from windows and much of my output requires html.. :( - Original Message - From: tazmun To: newbie Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 7:02 PM Subject: Fw: [newbie] problems installing runtime environment file from Sun - Original Message - From: tazmun To: Franki Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] problems installing runtime environment file from Sun Thanks all for your suggestions on this installation. By changing permissions and using midnight commander I was able to get it installed. Now all I have to do is get Star office to recognise it. considering reinstalling star office hoping it will see the environment.so far no go. Every step with Linux is a struggle, but I hope it pays off. I'm hoping 8.0 will be an improvement as far as user friendliness. Plan to buy that as soon as it comes out in the stores. Can anyone tell me if the downloads for 8.0 have as much of the extra software included as the official released version that is for sale? - Original Message - From: Franki To: tazmun Cc: Rules Address for MDK Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 3:08 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] problems installing runtime environment file from Sun type in mc at the command line, (you need to have midnight comander installed, but you probably do anyway) That will ring up a lovely blue screen you can navigate around in,, (self explanitory when you see it..) go to where your rpm is,, then highlight in in MC (again, self explanitory when you see it.) and press enter... you will go into the rpm where you can see two options, upgrade and install, choose the one you want, highlight it and press enter,, it will then install or upgrade it for you... Thats they way I did things before getting more familiar with things myself... I think mc is a very underrated tool considering what it adds to the console regards -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tazmun Sent: Friday, 4 May 2001 2:18 PM To: newbie Subject: [newbie] problems installing runtime environment file from Sun Hi All I am very new to Linux and the command line is very intimidating yet. I have downloaded a supposedly self extracting file (.bin) as well as the rpm version of the file. They suggest in the install directions that this be done from the command line and tell you that by using a command(./) on both of the files will start a script asking if you agree to their agreement first. This command on either file just gets me a permission denied error whether I'm logged on as a user or as root. This file is to install the runtime java enviroment required by Staroffice for any java applications to function. The file will not run in kpackage in the rpm version either..if you try to execute it it will error and say is it not executeable. I am running Mandrake 7.1 for now. I've also tried the rpm -ivh and -iv commands to no avail either.help please.I hate the Redmond gang but this is driving me nuts too!! Anyone helping here please assume I know nothing of the command line in their directions. Tazmun
