RE: [newbie] back to Windows

2005-04-01 Thread h k ball
... very entertaining, I was taken in totally, because as a month old 
newbie I went through that phase ... bought some Mandrake 10.1 disks ($6), 
they worked OK at first, but then degraded ...  ended up with:

(1) .. an old Mandrake Red Hat 6.0 that works on my desktop ..

(2) .. a SUSE 9.2 working in VMWare on my laptop ... ended up downloading 
the 3.3gig .iso file, turns out VMWare can read the .iso file right off my 
hard drive, don't have to fool with burning CD's etc ..

(3) ... the struggle getting from command mode to KDE in (1) above really 
taught me the Linux (UNIX) fundamentals, plus reading your wonderful 
mailing list each day ...

(4) .. once you get into KDE, everything's a breeze ...

HK

-Original Message-
From:   Dennis Myers [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Friday, April 01, 2005 11:52 AM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject:Re: [newbie] back to Windows

On Friday 01 April 2005 08:41 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Friday 01 April 2005 11:32 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
  I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... 
I
  can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks !
  And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP,
  which I have never used.
  Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well !

 Me too! Except I'm going to use my Atari Falcon from now on! No, even
 better, I'm going back to my Atari 800XL! Those were the days!

 carefully looking at todays date before replying

   :-)
Ron if you look at the date there is no fun in replying! Cheeez, some fun 
just
has to be had.
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[newbie] One step forward, two backward ...

2005-03-07 Thread h k Ball
Guys ...

.. well, was getting pretty comfortable with my VMware installation of 10.1 
 on my AMD64 laptop (256m3g ram 60gb hd, 2.0gH), was booting into CLI, then 
 startx (from root) into KDE, 1024x768, installed Firefox, all going well 
 ... decided it was time to change the 3 to a 5 in the inittab file to 
 boot up into KDE directly ... then all went down hill from there ...

... booted up fine, but from my user, not root, and booted into Konquerer 
 where I had made no settings of any kind, no Firefox, Bookmarks, etc ... 
 could not change the 5 back to a 3 or make any other changes in 
 inittab, because no permission from user level, have to be in root ... 
 could find no way to getback to KDE ... on each reboot try the system 
 degraded, files no longer accessable, etc ...after many failed tries of 
 getting back to root, I deleted the entire installation, 
 delete/defragged/created a new VM platform, attempted to re-installed 
 10.1...

 30 seconds into bootup I get error trying to load second stage ram 
 disk ... last few install log items read:

* trying to load /sysroot/tmp/image/stage2/mdkint_stage2.bz2 as ramdisk
* mounting /dev/ram3 on /sysroot/tmp/stage2 as type ext2
* fopen(stage1.c:383) failed: I/O error
* unsetting automatic

... have tried all the options I could think of, no luck ... looking at the 
 install log, everything seems to be going fine until the failure ...

... should have asked you guys, you probably could have gotten me back to 
 KDE just fine, I wouldn't be in this fix ...

HK

-Original Message-
From:   Mikkel L. Ellertson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Saturday, March 05, 2005 2:39 PM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject:Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

h k ball wrote:
 Kaj ...

 ... haven't given up on 6.0 yet, kind of a challenge ... have it working 
in
 partiton in CLI (you taught me that terminology) on my desktop (Intel32,
 256mb ram, 700mH, 20 gb hd), now that I have 10.1 running in VMware on my 
 new (AMD64, 500mb ram, 2.0mH, 60gb hd) laptop, with KDE running and 
Foxfire
 installed, my learning curve has accelaerated a bit, got more ideas for
 things to try on 6.0 to get KDE going ... mainly grinding through the 
1000
 different possible configuration combinations using that old 
Xconfigurator
 ...

 ... 10.1 bombed out on my desktop in the first 30 seconds of the boot-up
 install, didn't like my disk drive partitions (old machine, badly chopped 
 up with 6-7 partitons, been re-partitioned alot) ..

 ... my new laptop refuses to be partitioned by either my Partition Magic, 
 or by 10.1 when I tried to install it from bootup, that's why I had to go 
 the VMware route (very sluggish, but totally functional) ..

 ... so, think I can go back and squeeze in a small Fat32 partition on my
 desktop, along the lines of your suggestion, but cannot for 10.1 on my
 laptop ..

 .. one thought - I'm on the internet in Linux through my wireless local 
LAN
 network just fine, could Windows send stuff to Linux over that LAN 
network
 ?

 HK

I can understand the installer having a problem with this drive. You
might be able to do something in the expert mode, but you might also
delete some of your data... I would be tempted to back things up, wipe
the drive, and start over. Create one partition for Windows, and leave
the rest for the installer to play with.

Another option would be to add a second drive for Linux. Let Windows
keep the first drive, and have the installer install to the second hard
drive.

Mikkel
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RE: [newbie] Finally, Denmark gets it right

2005-03-05 Thread h k ball
Kaj ...

... that is really really good news, I would be proud too 

... don't know how much you are into this EU / New World Order thing, but 
the EU is very bad ... you all are being crushed by added controls each 
day, and your freedoms are diminishing accordingly ... not as bad here yet, 
figure the Western Hemisphere version of EU about 5 years off ..

HK

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From:   Kaj Haulrich [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Saturday, March 05, 2005 5:24 AM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] Finally, Denmark gets it right

 Once in a while I'm proud to be a Dane...:

http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=428

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RE: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-03-05 Thread h k ball
Kaj ...

... haven't given up on 6.0 yet, kind of a challenge ... have it working in 
partiton in CLI (you taught me that terminology) on my desktop (Intel32, 
256mb ram, 700mH, 20 gb hd), now that I have 10.1 running in VMware on my 
new (AMD64, 500mb ram, 2.0mH, 60gb hd) laptop, with KDE running and Foxfire 
installed, my learning curve has accelaerated a bit, got more ideas for 
things to try on 6.0 to get KDE going ... mainly grinding through the 1000 
different possible configuration combinations using that old Xconfigurator 
...

... 10.1 bombed out on my desktop in the first 30 seconds of the boot-up 
install, didn't like my disk drive partitions (old machine, badly chopped 
up with 6-7 partitons, been re-partitioned alot) ..

... my new laptop refuses to be partitioned by either my Partition Magic, 
or by 10.1 when I tried to install it from bootup, that's why I had to go 
the VMware route (very sluggish, but totally functional) ..

... so, think I can go back and squeeze in a small Fat32 partition on my 
desktop, along the lines of your suggestion, but cannot for 10.1 on my 
laptop ..

.. one thought - I'm on the internet in Linux through my wireless local LAN 
network just fine, could Windows send stuff to Linux over that LAN network 
?

HK

-Original Message-
From:   Kaj Haulrich [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Friday, March 04, 2005 6:31 PM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject:Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

On Friday 04 March 2005 19:47, h k ball wrote:

snip
 (1) ... if I'm going to migrate to Linux from Windows I need to
 transfer alot of files, there's got to be a better way from what
 I'm doing, which is sending stuff to my webpage, then
 accessing/downloading them through Firefox ... any more direct
 way (haven't figured out how to communicate on my office LAN yet)
/snip

Welcome back, h k...

I didn't realize you were running 6.0, but it induces that nostalgic
feeling in me.

If, by any chance, you are dual-booting Linux and another OS, an
easy way to transfer files is to create an extra FAT32  partition
in the middle to share files.  Most OS's can read and write to
FAT32.

HTH

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RE: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-03-05 Thread h k ball
Mikkel ...

 could only install 10.1(only paid 6 bucks, not too bad) on VM on my 
laptop (see my message just now to Kaj for the gory details) ... 1024X768 
working just fine without an nVidia card ...

... have been trying to figure out the smb4k alternative you suggested, 
read the manual, googled around, still no clue ...

... what is an example of a line of code I might try  ? (as root, I know 
that much)

HK

-Original Message-
From:   Mikkel L. Ellertson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Friday, March 04, 2005 2:32 PM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject:Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

h k ball wrote:
 ... Hi Kaj, Anne, Mikkel, Snap, et al ...

 ... I'm the newbie that showed up for the first time about 3 weeks ago, 
was
 overwhelmed with your responsiveness, but was way over my head, and felt
 guilty ... have a confession to make ...

 ... back in 1999 I bought Mandrake 6.0 ($35), tried putting it on the 
same
 machine with my Win2000, WinNT, etc, failed, gave up, put it on the 
shelf,
 forgot about it ...then, what with my wonderful experience with Firefox 
vs
 IE, etc etc, saw open sourcing in a whole new light, decided to try 
again,
 found your newbie list, and, trying harder this time, got it running in 
the
 command mode, and you all tought me a whole lot about moving around in 
that
 environment, really valuable stuff ...

 ... but I was flying under false colors ... you are all 10.1 folks, with
 10.1 problems and 10.1 solutions ... so I shut up, quit wasting your 
time,
 got on Ebay, bought 10.1 for $6.00 (thought, this is a dumb move) ... 
3-4
 days later a small envelop arrived with 4 disks, nothing else ... 
enlarged
 my Ext2, Swap partitions,etc ... total disaster, on two different 
machines
 bombed out immediately on install  (thought you got what you paid for) 
...

 ... had been hearing alot about VMware, how you don't need to partition,
 etc, lo and behold, VMware has a 5.0 in Beta testing until Apr 29 !!! ... 
 (I'm really really cheap) ...

 ... to make a 4 day story short, I have 10.1 running with a genaric VM
 video driver (nVidia card in my machine) at 1024x768, KDE up and running, 
 have installed my beloved Firefox, things are fantastic !!! ... so now
 maybe I can legitimately ask you guys some questions:

 (1) ... if I'm going to migrate to Linux from Windows I need to transfer
 alot of files, there's got to be a better way from what I'm doing, which 
is
 sending stuff to my webpage, then accessing/downloading them through
 Firefox ... any more direct way (haven't figured out how to communicate 
on
 my office LAN yet) ... ???

 (2) ... operations and webpage downloads are vey slw with one
 exception, downloaded Firefox (8.2 meg) in 30 seconds (DSL) ... I suspect 
 its the VMware's fault, but any tricks to speed things up ???

 ... again, I'm very appreciative and humbled  ...

 HK


I wish you would have told us you were running 6.0 - we could have
pointed you to where you could download the CD images for 10.1 for free,
or purchesed them fairly cheap. (You can download the first 3 CD's from
the Internet.)

Now, as far as transfering files between Windows and Linux, it depends
on how you are running Linux. If you are running it in a VMware window,
then you may want to create a share on the windows machine, and use
smb4k to map the share on Linux. You can alsu use the mount command from
the command line interface, but smb4k is probably going to work better
for you at this point.

If you are dual booting Windows and Linux on a machine, you can mount
the windows partition directly in Linux. In fact, the installer usualy
will set this up for you. Diskdrake will also do it for you. If you are
using the NT file system, then it will be mounted read only - you can
transfere files to Linux, but there are some problems writing to NT file
systems. (Has this changed?) There are no problems reading/writing FAT
file systems.

Depending on the nVidia card you have, 10.1 may work with it out of the
box, or you may have to install extra drivers. There have been a lot of
messages about this. I don't have personal experence with the cards that
require this.

As far as your install problems directly to the hardware, instead of
installing in VMware, we should be able to work around them. The bit
thing is to describe the hardware, and be willing to try a couple of
options during install. Most people don't need to do this, but some
hardware requires more effort then others... I usualy have less trouble
installing Linux then I do Windows, unless I have one of the restore CDs
for the machine that basicly restores a working image to the hard drive.

Mikkel
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RE: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-03-05 Thread h k ball
Kaj ...

... if Linux can read Windows files, that's all I need, will give it a try ..

HK

-Original Message-
From:   Kaj Haulrich [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Saturday, March 05, 2005 2:08 PM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject:Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

On Saturday 05 March 2005 18:55, h k ball wrote:
 Kaj ...

 ... haven't given up on 6.0 yet, kind of a challenge ... have it
 working in partiton in CLI (you taught me that terminology) on my
 desktop (Intel32, 256mb ram, 700mH, 20 gb hd), now that I have
 10.1 running in VMware on my new (AMD64, 500mb ram, 2.0mH, 60gb
 hd) laptop, with KDE running and Foxfire installed, my learning
 curve has accelaerated a bit, got more ideas for things to try on
 6.0 to get KDE going ... mainly grinding through the 1000
 different possible configuration combinations using that old
 Xconfigurator ...

 ... 10.1 bombed out on my desktop in the first 30 seconds of the
 boot-up install, didn't like my disk drive partitions (old
 machine, badly chopped up with 6-7 partitons, been re-partitioned
 alot) ..

 ... my new laptop refuses to be partitioned by either my
 Partition Magic, or by 10.1 when I tried to install it from
 bootup, that's why I had to go the VMware route (very sluggish,
 but totally functional) ..

 ... so, think I can go back and squeeze in a small Fat32
 partition on my desktop, along the lines of your suggestion, but
 cannot for 10.1 on my laptop ..

 .. one thought - I'm on the internet in Linux through my wireless
 local LAN network just fine, could Windows send stuff to Linux
 over that LAN network ?


h k, you can let Linux (10.1) read the Windows NT file system but 
not (safely) write to it.  If it's FAT32, no problems whatsoever.  
But Windows cannot write to Linux (I think it can't even see 
other filesystems than NT and FAT - but I'm not sure, have never 
used Windows).

Another solution : If you have the dough, by an external USB hard 
disk with at least one FAT32 partition.  Should be accessible from 
either OS.

Glad you got the other things sorted out.

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RE: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-03-05 Thread h k ball
Mikkel ...

... have a wireless network system in my office, my computers all have 
their C:, D:, etc files shared, send stuff back and forth all the time .. 
for purposes of discussion, my too main players are:

My Desktop - Workgroup: HKwork, Computer name: Faster (has MD 6.0 working 
in CLI mode, regular bootup on separate partition)

My Laptop:- Workgroup: Workgroup, Computer name: Best (has MD 10.1 working 
in KDE in Virtual Machine)

  so, on the MD 6.0 on the desktop, Linux is .HKwork.Faster
. and, on the MD 10.1 on my laptop Linux is .Workgroup.Best

... so the sharing stuff has been in place for some time, my question is
what line of code do I use employing smb4k to see Windows platforms  ?

(something) smb4k (something) ( HKwork/Faster/C something)

HK

-Original Message-
From:   Mikkel L. Ellertson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Saturday, March 05, 2005 2:30 PM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject:Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

h k ball wrote:
 Mikkel ...

  could only install 10.1(only paid 6 bucks, not too bad) on VM on my
 laptop (see my message just now to Kaj for the gory details) ... 1024X768 
 working just fine without an nVidia card ...

 ... have been trying to figure out the smb4k alternative you suggested,
 read the manual, googled around, still no clue ...

 ... what is an example of a line of code I might try  ? (as root, I know
 that much)

 HK

On your laptop, the first step is to enable file sharing in XP. Then you
have to deside how much of your XP drive you want to share. You may want
to create just one directory for moving files between the two systems.
You may also have to make some adjustments on the firewall in XP to let
Linux connect from inside VMware. I think this is still covered in the
VMware documentation. In any case, it is the same as setting up XP to
share a directory with other machines in the local network. It also
helps if you use the same workgroup name in XT and smb4k. As a test, you
should be able to see the directory you have set up from your desktop
system when both it, and the laptop are on the same network. If the two
machines running Windows can not share files, then Linux running in
VMware is probably going to have problems as well.

A second way would be to configure Samba under Linux, and have it share
out a directory. You would have to use XP to transfere files between
this directory and the XP file system.

One quick way to set up a directory for sharing is to double-click on
the hard drive icon on the desktop, navigate to the directory you would
like to share. Right click on it, pick Properties, and then Local Net
Shating. You will probably have to enter the root password, and enable
this. It may also ask to install some packages. Let it.

Mikkel
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RE: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-03-04 Thread h k ball
... Hi Kaj, Anne, Mikkel, Snap, et al ...

... I'm the newbie that showed up for the first time about 3 weeks ago, was 
overwhelmed with your responsiveness, but was way over my head, and felt 
guilty ... have a confession to make ...

... back in 1999 I bought Mandrake 6.0 ($35), tried putting it on the same 
machine with my Win2000, WinNT, etc, failed, gave up, put it on the shelf, 
forgot about it ...then, what with my wonderful experience with Firefox vs 
IE, etc etc, saw open sourcing in a whole new light, decided to try again, 
found your newbie list, and, trying harder this time, got it running in the 
command mode, and you all tought me a whole lot about moving around in that 
environment, really valuable stuff ...

... but I was flying under false colors ... you are all 10.1 folks, with 
10.1 problems and 10.1 solutions ... so I shut up, quit wasting your time, 
got on Ebay, bought 10.1 for $6.00 (thought, this is a dumb move) ... 3-4 
days later a small envelop arrived with 4 disks, nothing else ... enlarged 
my Ext2, Swap partitions,etc ... total disaster, on two different machines 
bombed out immediately on install  (thought you got what you paid for) ...

... had been hearing alot about VMware, how you don't need to partition, 
etc, lo and behold, VMware has a 5.0 in Beta testing until Apr 29 !!! ... 
(I'm really really cheap) ...

... to make a 4 day story short, I have 10.1 running with a genaric VM 
video driver (nVidia card in my machine) at 1024x768, KDE up and running, 
have installed my beloved Firefox, things are fantastic !!! ... so now 
maybe I can legitimately ask you guys some questions:

(1) ... if I'm going to migrate to Linux from Windows I need to transfer 
alot of files, there's got to be a better way from what I'm doing, which is 
sending stuff to my webpage, then accessing/downloading them through 
Firefox ... any more direct way (haven't figured out how to communicate on 
my office LAN yet) ... ???

(2) ... operations and webpage downloads are vey slw with one 
exception, downloaded Firefox (8.2 meg) in 30 seconds (DSL) ... I suspect 
its the VMware's fault, but any tricks to speed things up ???

... again, I'm very appreciative and humbled  ...

HK


-Original Message-
From:   Kaj Haulrich [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:02 AM
To: h k ball
Cc: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject:Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

On Thursday 17 February 2005 03:29, you wrote:
 Kaj ...

 ... based on today's wanderings, have concluded

 (1) ... need to connect to the net in CLI mod (how???)
 (2) ... download the Nvidia Vanta video card (how ? ... put in
 what directory so Xconfigurator can find it )
 (3) ... rerun Xconfigurator

 (4) ... maybe then stuff will work, although ...
 (5)  ... XFdrake doesn't exist
 (6) ... nothing containing auth exists

 HK

 ... looked at your web page, photos ... lovely daughter  ...
 article on healthcare, suits, accountants, etc made me laugh,
 we're not far behind you in our deterioration ...

Thanks, h k Where do you live ?

I'm a little confused about what you're trying to do...

(1) Why connect from the CLI ? - If you absolutely must then (as
root) : ifconfig eth0.  That is if you use ethernet as your
interface ?  -  Otherwise I'd recommend the GUI way for newbies,
just  : mcc, then give root password.  Go to Network  Internet
and make your choices.

(2) I don't have Nvidia, but I think you can use it in fb mode
(frame buffer) without the Nvidia drivers until you get things
sorted out.

(3) I don't thing you need to run xconfigurator, only XFdrake.

(4,5,6) You'll need to run XFdrake as root.

Lastly, a dumb question : Do you have a x server running ?

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RE: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-17 Thread h k ball
Anne, Kaj ...

... typed XFdrake in root directory, got 

program not found

... Kaj, I don't have a GUI yet, that's my main problem .. rebooted, when I got 
to sign-in, typed mcc then my root password, got

type root pasword for maintenace

... one other thing, the other day I got locked up, had to bale out without 
logoff or exit ...
since then, during boot-up, have gotten this (dev/hda5 is my root directory):

dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced
dev/hda5 unattached inode 108633
dev/hda5 unexpected inconsistancy, run fsck manually
give root password for maintenance...

... maybe need to start over, re-install Mandrake ???

HK

-Original Message-
From:   Anne Wilson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:27 AM
To: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject:Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

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On Thursday 17 Feb 2005 11:01, Kaj Haulrich wrote:

 Thanks, h k Where do you live ?

 I'm a little confused about what you're trying to do...

 (1) Why connect from the CLI ? - If you absolutely must then (as
 root) : ifconfig eth0.  That is if you use ethernet as your
 interface ?  -  Otherwise I'd recommend the GUI way for newbies,
 just  : mcc, then give root password.  Go to Network  Internet
 and make your choices.

 (2) I don't have Nvidia, but I think you can use it in fb mode
 (frame buffer) without the Nvidia drivers until you get things
 sorted out.

 (3) I don't thing you need to run xconfigurator, only XFdrake.

 (4,5,6) You'll need to run XFdrake as root.

 Lastly, a dumb question : Do you have a x server running ?

Kaj, he hasn't managed to boot into X at all - that's where this all started.  
My theory was that there was a problem with graphics drivers and/or monitor 
and that he should run the drakes from the cli to get them set up right, but 
he hasn't managed to do that, either.

Anne
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RE: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-17 Thread h k ball
Kaj ...

... I'm in Atlanta, the bean counters are destroying us all on every front ...

(1) ... I'd love to, but no GUI
(2) .. how do I get in fb (frame buffer) mode ?
(3) .. XFdrake would be lovely if I could find it ... tried whereis XF, find XF 
... nothing ..
(lastly) .. I don't know what x server is, how do I tell if it's running ?

HK
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From:   Kaj Haulrich [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:02 AM
To: h k ball
Cc: newbie@linux-mandrake.com
Subject:Re: [newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE  mode?

On Thursday 17 February 2005 03:29, you wrote:
 Kaj ...

 ... based on today's wanderings, have concluded

 (1) ... need to connect to the net in CLI mod (how???)
 (2) ... download the Nvidia Vanta video card (how ? ... put in
 what directory so Xconfigurator can find it )
 (3) ... rerun Xconfigurator

 (4) ... maybe then stuff will work, although ...
 (5)  ... XFdrake doesn't exist
 (6) ... nothing containing auth exists

 HK

 ... looked at your web page, photos ... lovely daughter  ...
 article on healthcare, suits, accountants, etc made me laugh,
 we're not far behind you in our deterioration ...

Thanks, h k Where do you live ?

I'm a little confused about what you're trying to do...

(1) Why connect from the CLI ? - If you absolutely must then (as 
root) : ifconfig eth0.  That is if you use ethernet as your 
interface ?  -  Otherwise I'd recommend the GUI way for newbies, 
just  : mcc, then give root password.  Go to Network  Internet 
and make your choices.

(2) I don't have Nvidia, but I think you can use it in fb mode 
(frame buffer) without the Nvidia drivers until you get things 
sorted out.

(3) I don't thing you need to run xconfigurator, only XFdrake.

(4,5,6) You'll need to run XFdrake as root.

Lastly, a dumb question : Do you have a x server running ?

Kaj Haulrich.
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[newbie] How get from dos mode into KDE mode?

2005-02-15 Thread h k ball
... sent this last night, but think to the wrong  place ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ...

 so far I have:

(1) made a 2.5 meg Linux Ext2 partition and a .5 meg Linux SWAP partition
with Partition Magic ...

(2) Using the Mandrake installation disks, got to Congratulations installation
is complete! ... installed about 400 meg of files, including KDE, GNOME 
and associated graphics stuff ... 

(3) have successfully logged on into what I call the dos-like mode, 
been able to use

 ls /bin -al |less, |more
 linuxconf 
 man man  
 cd, su, exit   
 Xconfigurator (struggle picking a comparable video card, finally found one)

(4) can reboot back and forth between Windows 2000, XP and Linux on same 
machine with no problem, everything still works just fine ...

(5) have not been able to get out of the dos mode and into the 
windows mode, namely KDE ... how do I do that ??

(6) 700 mHz, 256meg ram, 20 gig hd, Nvidia Vanta video card, Intel ... 

hk ball
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