Re: [newbie] ESS Audio still not working
can someone clue us in on aol using some kind of netscape downloader to gather data. i just for a moment say that someplace and cant remember what all the facts are. thanks pat
Re: [newbie] WIll this thread end?? lol
Gary wrote: On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, "Dodo2" == Brendan K Callahan wrote: Dodo1 wouldnt it be cool if we could connect to our operating systems with Dodo1 just our minds :) Dodo1 now would that be easy or not Dodo2 Until WinTelePath locks up, and you're stuck until someone else Dodo2 comes along to give you the three finger salute--then again, could Dodo2 be easier than trying to find the right "driver" for your eyes Dodo2 under Linux :) Wouldn't it be "cool" if we actually talked about something germane, and who knows, maybe even something adult-like. This is not a chat group, and I do not like wasting my time reading the above which has absolutely nothing to do with this purpose of this group. Congrats guys - you have just entered my proc(tology) mail hall of fame. Gary ok, we'll be good at least for now :)
Re: [newbie] Hard Dive info. pleas
Kathleen Dickason wrote: 20 gigs is ample room for 2 OSes or more. is there a reason you don't want to partition the main drive? are you only running windows now? Kandace Little wrote: My hard drive now is 20 gigs and the one that I canadd is only 4 gigs. I was thinking it would be nice tohave Linux on its own drive all together. I guess I woulduse the whole Hard drive for Linux, unless that wouldcause problems? Stephen -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139 i got 2 drives one 15 gig the other 20 gig and linex has em both :)
Re: [newbie] Hard Dive info. pleas
Kathleen Dickason wrote: patrick darcy wrote: Kathleen Dickason wrote: 20 gigs is ample room for 2 OSes or more. is there a reason you don't want to partition the main drive? are you only running windows now? Kandace Little wrote: My hard drive now is 20 gigs and the one that I canadd is only 4 gigs. I was thinking it would be nice tohave Linux on its own drive all together. I guess I woulduse the whole Hard drive for Linux, unless that wouldcause problems? Stephen i got 2 drives one 15 gig the other 20 gig and linex has em both :) Wow! I've got 2 drives with a combined total of 23.6 gig...and 4 OSes. Soon to be 5. Hee. -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139 how come so many operating systems. i find this fascinating. what do u do more or less with each of them
Re: [newbie] Hard Dive info. pleas
Kathleen Dickason wrote: patrick darcy wrote: Kathleen Dickason wrote: patrick darcy wrote: Kathleen Dickason wrote: 20 gigs is ample room for 2 OSes or more. is there a reason you don't want to partition the main drive? are you only running windows now? Kandace Little wrote: My hard drive now is 20 gigs and the one that I canadd is only 4 gigs. I was thinking it would be nice tohave Linux on its own drive all together. I guess I woulduse the whole Hard drive for Linux, unless that wouldcause problems? Stephen i got 2 drives one 15 gig the other 20 gig and linex has em both :) Wow! I've got 2 drives with a combined total of 23.6 gig...and 4 OSes. Soon to be 5. Hee. -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139 how come so many operating systems. i find this fascinating. what do u do more or less with each of them I have so many because I'm an OS addict. *grin* I am curious about how they work and what apps are available in each environment. And CheapBytes makes them simple to acquire as well as inexpensive. I started with Windows 98, which came preinstalled and which I keep because there are some programs I need for work that Ionly have in Windows...like Adobe PageMaker and PhotoShop. I don't like Windows much, though, so I installed Linux Mandrake 7.0 as a dual boot, then upgraded to 7.1. This is my current favorite OS. I use it for learning to program in C, for email and websurfing. I'm still exploring and learning! After that, I got curious. I have a friend who used to program for the BeOS, so I bought a 2nd hard drive and installed BeOS 5 on that. Be is my 2nd favorite OS...I use it to play with graphics programs and 3D modeling, and also for email and websurfing. Since I like the Unix aspect of Linux a lot, I got curious about other flavors, and installed FreeBSD also on the 2nd hard drive. I have only played with this a little so far, since I am currently spending most of my free time playing with C programming. I plan to install Sun Solaris in the future, since it's one of the Unices most commonly used by businesses around here. But mostly, I just like to play with them. :) -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139 wow. i had win 3.1 then 98 then 98se and after reading about what gates is all about i decided i had to make a change. im not a progammer or anything but i do like linux. i had corel which i didnt really give a chance to because it didnt support geforce cards at the time. then i had suse and i loved it. then mandrake came out and i got it and for some reason i lliked it even more. i am really excited about the 2.4 kernal coming out. i want to check out konquer and koffice. i do some writing with my machine but mainly listen to music with it while i try to get people out of cults and wierd churches on the internet. i love the sta bility of mandrake i leave my machine on all the time and use konqueror for my newsgroups and netscape for news and other stuff. and by the way my netscape only crashes about once every week or two. konquer never crashes period. later pat
Re: [newbie] (OT) An MS Linux webpage!
"Brisco County Jr." wrote: Take a look at this page, you might be surprised! :-) http://www.mslinux.org i gotta admit, u had me going for a minute thanks
Re: [newbie] Yo
Bob Harman wrote: It reminds me of my OS/2 days: Linux may (in some cases) be harder to get up and running than Win9x, but once it's where you want it, it's not going down easily. For business use and for better performance and reliability, even Microsoft recommends using Win2K instead of Win9x (or WinME). Bob clap clap clap for u and for all us penguinistas too Goldenpi wrote: Well windows does take less setting up. But linux has better memory use. And windows comes with, erm, windows. Linux comes with lots of free software. - Original Message - From: Hugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Yo And Doug you forgot to mention the pretty blue screens you get And all for free NOT! LOL On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, you wrote: Jason Ashman wrote: -- Hey Linux users. I am a Microsoft convert, Windows SUCKS! With Linux you will spend more time trying to get things up and going than you ever would using windows. If you want to wast your hartbeats getting LINUX to do stuff that windows does right out of the box so be it. -- Windows-Where Do You Want To Go Today! LINUX-Applications on linux just seem 2nd rate after using Windows, It's memory hungry and slow! * Doug Eldora,IA USA--Home Of The Bad Boys! Visit My Web Page At: http://home.earthlink.net/~neptuned/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/theneptune59/index.html E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * MHS Class Of 78 Marshalltown High School-Marshalltown,IA USA *
Re: [newbie] i486 install problem (solved)
bascule wrote: just to let people know, i went to the link carol gave http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ and following the advice about bios settings i eventually installed mandrake, i had to set all bios options regarding memory to to the least performance settings bascule bascule wrote: i have finally managed to get a copy of the i486 iso that passes the md5sum, but everytime i try to install it on my 486 i get an error: install exited abnormally - recieved signal 11... is 'signal 11' just a kill signal or does it tell me anything about what might have happened. i have made a cd of the iso and tried to install thats interesting. what mother board do u have i am running epox k7 with athlon 700. my micron memery is running at 153
Re: [newbie] Yo
Mark Hillary wrote: Why are yu on this mailing list. well mark, maybe someone will be able to read this and he will be helped. not everyone onthe planet speaks english u know In alio peduclum vides in te ricinum non vides And also Erus meus elephanti corio circumtentust, non suo, neque habet plus sapientiai quam lapis. Mark Hillary Doug wrote: Jason Ashman wrote: -- Hey Linux users. I am a Microsoft convert, Windows SUCKS! With Linux you will spend more time trying to get things up and going than you ever would using windows. If you want to wast your hartbeats getting LINUX to do stuff that windows does right out of the box so be it. -- Windows-Where Do You Want To Go Today! LINUX-Applications on linux just seem 2nd rate after using Windows, It's memory hungry and slow! * Doug Eldora,IA USA--Home Of The Bad Boys! Visit My Web Page At: http://home.earthlink.net/~neptuned/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/theneptune59/index.html E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * MHS Class Of 78 Marshalltown High School-Marshalltown,IA USA *
Re: [newbie] WIll this thread end?? lol
Mark Johnson wrote: Wow! That's really a refreshing viewpoint. I have this love/hate relationship with Linux. I started out as a GUI programmer in the NT world, and currently I write backend network management systems for Solaris/Linux as well as GUIs on NT - so I "wear two hats" so to speak in my career as a programmer. In general, I like Windows and I like Linux; however, I have not been able to afford the Linux religous zeal because my ability to eat and buy computer equipment was/is contigent on writing GUIs for Windows. I have always had this nagging feeling that the unix/linux community couldn't care less about user interfaces almost to the extent that GUIs were pretty much plain evil. If you think about it, all computer interfaces are GUIs whether it is a CLI terminal window or the GIMP. The GUIs in MAC, Windows, and BeOS are all really pretty good, they behave pretty much intuitively. Linux GUIs on the other hand are generally pretty crappy, maybe that's why a lot of Linux folks are always bemoaning GUIs? GUIs themselves are not road blocks, it's the design of a particular GUI that is a road block. I would have hoped by now, nearly 10 years, that someone out there in the Linux community would sit down an write something on par (IMHO) with MAC, Windows, and BeOS. Enlightenment is really cool, and so is KDE, but there is a consistency that is missing -- little trivial user feed-back things and navigation issues that don't have the maturity of the other GUIs on the market. I would be willing to pay as much for a decent GUI IDE for Linux as I do for Visual Studio/MSDN. KDevelop is realy great - a godsend in fact - but you get what you pay for. Just because it runs on Linux doesn't mean I will refuse to pay for it, or that I must have the source code for a particular product. Actually, for a majority of software products I could care less about owning the source code. It's not that I want an AOL-type OS, it's more that a lot of times I have other things to do than to tinker with my OS. I don't think the advancement in human-computer interfaces will ever be found within the Linux community - i think that's too bad. It will probably be this one thing that keeps Linux as a server/embedded OS or something for the OS hobbiest. I would really love it if Adobe, InstallShield, Quicken, etc, and even MS would develop products for Linux; however, if MS starting writing products for Linux I think many many people would chunk Windows in a heartbeat. ps: too bad that BeOS is de-emphasizing their place on the desktop - to me it was what Linux could be as a desktop OS... -Original Message- From: Brendan K Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 4:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] WIll this thread end?? lol OK, time for my 2 cents, lol I always enjoy having a Linux box--connecting a LAN to the internet is so stable that way! I also enjoy the *wealth* of apps available for Windows. Each OS has different consumers, and end uses in mind--the only real solution I've ever seen is to have at least two computers--one with Linux, and one with Windows. Each has it's strengths and weaknesses. Linux has gained on Windows for ease of use and installation in the last few years. WIndows, IMHO, has improved over the years. It's not perfect. Linux is not easy (but getting there very fast.). As my Canadian guest has said, the OS that combines the best of both, will win. And if you want to talk dumbing down of users by OS, I think Mac takes the cake for *that* one! Brendan K Callahan, Grinnell, IA, US K0EES, Extra Class License http://www.mp3.com/darkmare_romeo K0EES, Extra Class License dahdidah dahdahdahdahdah dit dit dididit wouldnt it be cool if we could connect to our operating systems with just our minds :) now would that be easy or not
Re: [newbie] Upgrading (was: Red hat installation problem]
Michael Scottaline wrote: Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well now...lets see. If mandrake 7.2 is in beta now, then it'll probably be out somwhere around say...Christmas? good heavens. I just installed Mandrake 7.1 this past June which means this installation will only be 6 months old, and ...ah geez how do ya keep up with this stuff? that to me is called progress. would u rather have new versions every six months or every several years. i would take the 6 months and i cant wait to throw out my 7.1 and install 8.0. koffice kernal 2.4 without all the hassles that some of u are having. a , im in dreamy land now. kde2 also, oh yea about the only reason I can think of to upgrade from 7.1 to 7.2 or 8.0 would be KDE2 - koffice. Is that a good enough reason, or do ya think we could get those modules seperately. I hate to disturb an installation when it's happy. -- Mark I'm running 7.1 on a laptop and my home computer. I think I'll wait until the distros have a STABLE version that includes kernel 2.4.x, KDE 2.0 (with KOffice) and XFree86 4.0.x (or perhaps I'll just install XiGraphics Accelerated-X). I would think for Mandrake this would be an 8.0 version, for Redhat a 7.x, Caldera a 3.0, and for Slackware an 8.0 (just pure speculation ;o) ) Mike "What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch?" --W. C. Fields Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
Re: [newbie] BSOD (fwd, fun)
Mark Weaver wrote: patrick darcy wrote: Greg Stewart wrote: i apolajise for my last post. there is a puppy in the house and he was bothering me :) I don't believe you!!! :-) --Greg its absolutely true. where i live there is a new puppy named of all things gum drop. hes a little sheltie. at this very moment he is chewing something in my room. this is where i keep all my computer stuff and im almost afraid to look :) Good heavens Patrick! give him a hunk of 2x4 to chew on. :) it always worked with the shepards, collies, and black labs i've ever known. Not to mention the rotweiler I had. Of course I had to give him truck tires to wrestle with! Mark i got him some chewy hide stuff, he seems to be happy now . he did chew up a floppy disk i had though. it was a mandrake disk for installation and i dont need it anyway. i just love puppies and penguins too.
Re: Undeliverable: Re: [newbie] Lost passwords
Gary wrote: Why have I been getting these messages for the past several days. My post does get to the newbie group, but I always get this bounce. Anybody else get these? -- Regards Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Lost passwords Sent:Sun, 20 Aug 2000 05:26:07 +0100 did not reach the following recipient(s): [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 20 Aug 2000 05:31:10 +0100 The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=NTDOMAIN1;l=NTSERVER 10008200431QXLLCM7Y MSEXCH:IMS:NTDOMAIN1:NTSERVER1:NTSERVER1 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient for the last couple of day i am getting multiiple mails and bounces also. dont know why though
Re: [newbie] Red hat installation problem
Mark Weaver wrote: patrick darcy wrote: i think u need to get Mandrake 7.1 hopefully throw out your windoz and start fresh. this is the best of the best u kow. i have heard that red hat is more difficult to install. and i have a question, is mandrake the next version gonna come with koffice or not. pat I wouldn't mind knowing the answer to that one myself. I tried installing KDE2 on my system a about a month ago and wasn't sucessful in the attempt. It didn't break anything, but I wasn't able to get it working either. I'm waiting for the final version to come out. Mark i think we should demand that Mandrake 7.2 or 8.0 or whatever they call it has koffice. and what about some of the bigger players in Linux promoting gnome. whats gonna happen to kde :)
Re: [newbie] BSOD (fwd, fun)
oh noo. we're supposed to be helping people here and now look :)
OK, now how did this "Jail" reference get in here...now I'm paranoid, too!!!
--Greg
Oh sure and all the people in Jail are innocent too.
Greg Stewart wrote:
i apolajise for my last post. there is a puppy in the house and he
was bothering me :)
I don't believe you!!! :-)
--Greg
its absolutely true. where i live there is a new puppy named of all
things gum drop. hes a little sheltie. at this very moment he
is chewing something in my room. this is where i keep all my
computer stuff and im almost afraid to look :)
patrick darcy wrote:
Greg Stewart wrote:
Ya know... I kinda like it when Windoze has to re-boot!
It means I get to walk away from the desk, visit the lu or get
my
85th
cup
of coffee, or even chat with the neighbouring engineers who had
the
same
problem the day before!
In brief, it means LESS WORK FOR ME!!! (Am I going crazy?)
--Greg
actually from what u have just said either u are or u arent crazy
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Re: [newbie] BSOD (fwd, fun)
patrick darcy wrote: Greg Stewart wrote: Ya know... I kinda like it when Windoze has to re-boot! It means I get to walk away from the desk, visit the lu or get my 85th cup of coffee, or even chat with the neighbouring engineers who had the same problem the day before! In brief, it means LESS WORK FOR ME!!! (Am I going crazy?) --Greg actually from what u have just said either u are or u arent crazy i apolajise for my last post. there is a puppy in the house and he was bothering me :) laters pat -- are you taking into account all the time it takes for rebooting EVERY time you add a new program? How often are you rebooting when you add a new RPM or upgrade one? Just food for thought :-) Patti Registered Linux User 184611 __ message envoye depuis http://www.ifrance.com emails (pop)-sites persos (espace illimite)-agenda-favoris (bookmarks)-forums Ecoutez ce message par tel ! : 08 92 68 92 15 (france uniquement)
Re: [newbie] BSOD (fwd, fun)
Greg Stewart wrote: i apolajise for my last post. there is a puppy in the house and he was bothering me :) I don't believe you!!! :-) --Greg its absolutely true. where i live there is a new puppy named of all things gum drop. hes a little sheltie. at this very moment he is chewing something in my room. this is where i keep all my computer stuff and im almost afraid to look :) patrick darcy wrote: Greg Stewart wrote: Ya know... I kinda like it when Windoze has to re-boot! It means I get to walk away from the desk, visit the lu or get my 85th cup of coffee, or even chat with the neighbouring engineers who had the same problem the day before! In brief, it means LESS WORK FOR ME!!! (Am I going crazy?) --Greg actually from what u have just said either u are or u arent crazy __ message envoye depuis http://www.ifrance.com emails (pop)-sites persos (espace illimite)-agenda-favoris (bookmarks)-forums Ecoutez ce message par tel ! : 08 92 68 92 15 (france uniquement)
Re: [newbie] Mandrake on IRC
did u know that if u dont read all those 828 emails that your computer just might blow up Paul wrote: On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Greg Stewart wrote: HEY! I can harldy deal with the remaining 828 unread messages I've gotten from this damnable message board! I couldn't possibly keep up in a chat room!!! I never realised this would be such an active board, but I guess I'm a masochist 'cause just stick sround and collect more unread messages!!! :) Then filter smart and read faster! ;-) Paul -- No one gets a second chance for a first impression )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] AOL for Linux
i believe this thread started when somone with no money or income had to use aol because their parents did. i could be wrong though, i think not, therefore i am Vic wrote: Oh I think someone was just wanting to see what would happen, except that curiosity did not kill this linuxcat. On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, you wrote: something surprises me about this thread. Since AOL sucks so bad why in the world would anyone runing an OS as rock solid want to run something as evil as AOL? -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Vic wrote: Only a rumour, but I heard that sometime in 1997 someone was experimenting with an aol client for linux, but I never saw it. On Sun, 06 Aug 2000, you wrote: I think AOL uses this annoying client software, so you cant get to to connect on linux. Either dump linux(bad idea) or dump aol(good idea). There are lots of free isps now, so you can save some money while your at it. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 2:46 AM Subject: [newbie] AOL for Linux Is there anyway that anyone knows to get AOL set up on a linux operating system(Mandrake 7.1) Thanks in advance ~Lance
Re: [newbie] Red hat installation problem
i think u need to get Mandrake 7.1 hopefully throw out your windoz and start fresh. this is the best of the best u kow. i have heard that red hat is more difficult to install. and i have a question, is mandrake the next version gonna come with koffice or not. pat Michael Khachiki wrote: Dear how ever I am a new user of Linux. I purchased a Linux book some time a go which came with three types of Linux which one of them was RedHat 6.0. I tried to install RedHat and according to this book I had boot from A: drive?? When I boot the machine successfully from A: drive I could not get RedHat to Auto detect my CDROM? I tried manual detection and it asked for parameters that I did not know about (IRQ interrupt and etc). Can any one help me with this problem? how can I get Red hat to recognize my CDROM regards
Re: [newbie] AOL for Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am only 16 and dont have a steady income so therefor I need to keep AOL because it is what my parents have. I cant get a job around here because of age limitation and a bunch of stupid stuff so I am stuck. ~Lance i wouldnt be surprised in the near future to see aol for linux. maybe u'r not as stuck as u think
Re: [newbie] Freshmeat?
A V Flinsch wrote: On Fri, 04 Aug 2000, you wrote: Works fine for me. Has anyone else besides me had trouble getting to Freshmeat.com the past few days? I have been having problems on and off for the past week. It seems to depend on which of my isp's dialup numbers I use. I can get to freshmeat using one, but not the other, while I can get to my newsserver using the dialup that can't connect to freshmeat, but not on the one that can connect. Seems to be a routing problem somewhere. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life) cant help u with your problem rolling on the floor
Re: [newbie] Install to a laptop without a CD drive?
"Austin L. Denyer (SysAdmin.) as root" wrote: Jeff Malka wrote: Is Laplink a commercial product? Yes it is. The latest release is LapLink 2k, and is available from www.laplink.com. No sign of a Linux version though... Regards, Ozz. i think it is rather cool that some of u have the ability to update your kernal to me it is rather remarkable that u could actually update your operating system while your operating system is in fact running your computer. amazing.
Re: [newbie] things other than linux (not a complaint) =)
Adrian Smith wrote: ya know there have been lots of interesting things said here about old computers, other OSs, the history of the GUI such. it really isn't about Linux, and this list seems to deal with things like this well, but as i was reading today i thought it might be interesting to have a list dedicated to dicussing the history of hardware software advanced tips, tricks, easter eggs such is Win9x an OS or a GUI (since as someone said, this is still being debated why? we don't know) things that we did on computers back in the day when "640K is more than anyone will ever need" thus, we could have a place to ramble on on about these things without bothering the people who want Linux only information. does anyone think this might be a good idea or am i just on drugs? if you would be interested, or if you think i'm an idiot, would you please drop me an email to the address below (not back at the list). thanks, and everyone have a great weekend. it's friday as i send this, who knows when it will reach the list =) Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED] well i think the history of computing is the history of linux. just talk about what ever u want and dont worry about it. some people get a little grouchy no what u say if its even a little of topic. just jump right in. u can be the computer history teacher if u want :)
Re: [newbie] HELP!!! PLEASE, I AM AT MY WITS END
Kalu Chijioke wrote: Goodday All,Please I pray and hope anyone and I mean anyone can end up helping me resolve my problem.Do take time to read this, cause it's littered with a newbie request structure.I just acquired my Mandrake 6.1, having dumped my old Slackware 2.0 version. Hoping that the device configuration problem I hadwith my slackware would have been corrected, and the manufacturers helped out in supplying all necessary tools to support this wonderful operating system.Before I get carried away, my problem is this.1. I can't seem to be able to configure my sound card to work with my motherboard(System Specifications at end), I am using a CM8738 Sound Card, which, ChenLi Tien, designed the driver that should work with the Linux Box, but I have compiled the kernel and reinstalled, yet, everything is the same, a probe with cat /dev/sndstart, produces the error "No such directory", which from the documentation states that the device is not in the kernel or is not installed. I have followed all the steps to recompile the kernel, still I am getting nowhere, I don't know if I am doin something wrong, If I am, please let someone take his/her time to clearly outline the steps again not missing a pin, I would be most grateful.2. I can't get my modem to work too. As described by the ChenLi Tien CM8738 driver, I am supposed to compile the "pctel.o" module, that, I can't find anywhere, I have gone to websites to attempt downloading the file but to no avail, and it isnt included in my distribution or the device driver accompanying the motherboard.I really need HELP!, as i can't even browse the net, I have battled with this for a week and in my last desperate attempt, gone to acyber cafe, paid their exhorbitant amount to send this SOS, anyone who has enough knowledge as to my problem or has my samesystem specification should please give me a detailed account as to how he/she setup all the devices. I really am down, and need serious assistance urgently.I have completely tried every IRQ and I/O port I can lay my hands on but with no success.Of course, I know the last option maybe to by a Sound Blaster for the sound fix and an external modem and an extra com port for it, but till then I hope someone out there has the solution.Thank youChijiokeHere are my System Specs.AMD K6 MOTHERBOARD1 COM1 PARALLELON BOARD SOUND AND MODEM (CM8738)ON BOARD DAVICOM9102 ETHERNET CARDThanks again.Please remember to be detailed in your explanation steps as it will help a great deal in eliminating problems. sorry, can help, i cant even read your post very well with the blazing white background
Re: [newbie] Linux resources online
Robert McNealy wrote: Nobody "froces" anyone to sell their company. That is a business decision, most often for the best of the business-owner. Microsoft has the clout to "buy" its expertise. None of these exchanges can happened with consent. Many of would not be in the IT, MIS, PC industires if it weren't FOR Microsoft. Through their business practices, they mass-marketed and made computers easy to use and popular. No one can argue that. Apple did not, or we would all be rooting for government to chew them a new a--hole. If you hate Windoze, don't use it. But for many of us, we have to still hybrid still because so many applications are not available in Linux, and so many customers want Win Appz. Not to mention many of our average secretary tyes would never be able to figure out how to use linux. I still know so many users to who have a hard enough time learning Outlook. Come on, in the early 80's everyone hate IBM, because they were the "Evil Empire", now it is MS. I bet it will be SUN (maybe Cisco) next. Look how they "protect" Java. Come on. MS bashing is so old. Let's ignore it and get some Linux work done. Original Message Follows From: "Ronald J. Hall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux resources online Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:11:44 -0400 Romanator wrote: I am not 100% sure but it sounds familiar. They have purchased a lot of the smaller companies that provide coding, installation, uninstall, 'dll' stuff. A fair chunk of the coding is not necessarily written inside the Microsoft building. They own many smaller companies that contribute to the general product. Can you imagine if you had a smaller software producing good software, and then you tried to challenge Microsoft. Not only will they buy your company through the courts, and, if you don't agree or conform with their philosophy, they will boot you out of your own company. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Exactly. One of the big points in the Justice Depts case against them is that they have stifled inovation through such tactics. I mean whats the point of developing a killer piece of software, knowing that MS will just take it from you, by hook or by crook? Anybody else on this list old enough to remember when the "suits" didn't run things, and games/software were ported to every single platform, just because they could/it was neat? Circa '80's with names like Tandy, Atari, Amiga, etc, etc,... ;-) -- Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com welcome to the revolution that is Linux.
Re: [newbie] How can I configure MDK7.1 with another OS usingBootMagic?
sorry i just snipped everything on this mail but... i think its about time some of u other newbies just took the plunge and started to forget about your other operating system. this newby place is covered with how to install with this system and that system. if u must have more than one os just get a second drive and leave your other system alone or if u are brave LIKE ME u just tell the mandrake install to take over everythaing and when ui do this all these problems with that other operating system will just vanish. thank u pat :) by the way i have a copy of microsoft office professional 97 cheap. i have win 98 se cheap to maybe im just one of the bravest penguins around :)
Re: [newbie] Updating kernel w/ Mandrake Updater
Victor Richardson wrote: Are there any extra steps to updating the kernel other than running the Mandrake Updater? Also, /etc/lilo had a section for the new kernels, but included a commented line that said something like "# Add using install-kernel". Which, of course, I did not do and had Lilo load that kernel anyway with disastrous results. I had to re-install. Do I need to run the command "install kernel 2.2.xxx"? (xxx being the version number) Any suggestions welcome, Victor it is not recommended u update the kernal thru mandrake updates. the idea of makefile etc etc etc is pretty spooky sounding to me. im just gonna wait for the next mandreake. have u heard, suse has a new version ofl linux out ..
Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???
Bill Hudspeth wrote: Sevatio Octavio wrote: Yes, I have a AMD 500Mhz It appears to be running fine. Why do you ask? I ask because I anticipate having an AMD 500 MHz board delivered tomorrow. I was hoping, at the time, that I had not made a mistake and might have to exchange it for an Intel. never exchange an amd motherboard and processor for an intel silly :) I've now had a lot of gracious assurance that it is a great chip. Thank you all. Bill Seve Original Message On 7/29/00, 4:21:55 AM, Hellmut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] AMD 500 CPUs???: Hi Bill. I'm very close to it, I have an AMD K6-2 450 Mhz and Mandrake runs just fine. Has anyone out there had a successful Mandrake operating on an AMD 500 CPU? TIA Bill -- , (o o) +--oOOO--(_)---+ | | |H E L L M U T | | | | www.fegefeuer-webzine.de | | | +-0OOO-+ | _ | _ | | | | | | | | | ooO Ooo
Re: [newbie] Cannot download with Netscape?
Alan Shoemaker wrote: Jeffyou should be holding down the shift key as you click on a downloadable file link. Alan Jeff Malka wrote: I know this is a dumb question, but using Netscape under Mandrake 7.1, I cannot seem to download. When I click on a downloadable file link I get the ASCII text on screen instead of normal downloading. What should I be doing to get Netscape to download into a directory? Thanks. -- Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User 348854 thanks for the tip. i had this problem once and i just gave up thanks pat
Re: [newbie] kwvdial ??????
Mike Koceja wrote: hello all. i am running Mandrake 7.1 and I have had a lot of problems getting kppp to work. So I ditched it and decided to use kwvdial. I downloaded the rpm installed it and everything seemed to be working nicely. It dials logsin and claims to have connected. The only problem is that when I go to open netscape it turns out that I'm not really connected after all. I am really at a loss here. I would hate to have to scrap Linuw now. I have everything else working nicely all I nedd is to be able to dialup and connect to the Internet. Please Someone help me out here. __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ dont scrap it. hang on and somebody will help u. in my mandrake 7.1 i had the same problem. i didnt know what to do and by the way u are connected so i reinstalled and in the installation when it asks u if u want to connect and get security answer yes, let your modem connect and then when u see the security programs just refuse them and when u first get your connection netscape and kfm will both know its there. i didnt know what else to do but at leas i got it to work. pat
Re: [newbie] Windoze
maybe if the governemt would stop and think of the money they could save the taxpayers as compared to paying so much for windoz. i honestly believe that most people are not completely stupid as far as learning. i would hope our government and military could be included here :) dacia wrote I read an interview with an airforce sysadmin where he was asked about linux and other free OS's. He replied that they use lilnux for many of their servers (in some cases against the wishes of their superiors) and windows for desktop machines. His arguement was that they have to have a standardized interface on as many machines as they can. This is so Joe Blow can be transfered from miami to germany, go into his office and do his work without retraining. He also mentioned that the majority of users are immediately familiar with a windows interface while the average user would be lost on a gnome/windowmaker/kde desktop. Dacia --- patrick darcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Romanator wrote: "Roderick F.Lazaro" wrote: On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, you wrote: counterparts. Nothing available can touch Outlook and Outlook express. Have you heard of the latest security issue with Outlook. Anybody sending you mail can run their code on your machine when you open the email. It has something to do with Outlook's ActiveX engine. Just a note, just in case somebody formats your hard drive. Yup. It's amazing what you can do to Outlook. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 whats really amazing to me is the u s governemnt along with other governments keep right on using that other operating system. i have read a while back that with the i love u virus that even some government computers were put down. it seems the viruses are getting worse and worse and the u s government just stands by and does nothing when it could make the move to Linux and have much more secure and much more powerful systems. its just amazing. and think of all the money they would save. __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] *happy sigh*
Kathleen Dickason wrote: Just got home from my first day at a new (tech writing) job! But while I think the job will be great, I must say that it was a huge relief, after wrestling with Windows and thrice-cursed Outlook all day, to come home to wonderful Linux and X and KDE and Mozilla and XChat and Applixware Office Suite and all. *happy appreciative sigh* I'm a happy lil penguinhead...don't mind me... -- Kathleen Dickason Registered Linux user #182139 now send me some penguin toys being that u'r so so reliieved :)
Re: [newbie] Windoze
Romanator wrote: "Roderick F.Lazaro" wrote: On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, you wrote: counterparts. Nothing available can touch Outlook and Outlook express. Have you heard of the latest security issue with Outlook. Anybody sending you mail can run their code on your machine when you open the email. It has something to do with Outlook's ActiveX engine. Just a note, just in case somebody formats your hard drive. Yup. It's amazing what you can do to Outlook. -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 whats really amazing to me is the u s governemnt along with other governments keep right on using that other operating system. i have read a while back that with the i love u virus that even some government computers were put down. it seems the viruses are getting worse and worse and the u s government just stands by and does nothing when it could make the move to Linux and have much more secure and much more powerful systems. its just amazing. and think of all the money they would save.
Re: [newbie] Windoze
Bob Howard wrote: Gil, To remain in computing effectively you should probably avoid linux in all its many variations and stick with the Windows environment in the flavor of your choice.. The deal is you use the apps and OS you prefer and we Linusians will use our preferences. Your assertions about all the wonderful MS apps will generally fall on deaf ears in a Linux gathering because we have made other choices. I should also point out that, despite your assertions otherwise, not EVERYONE uses MSOffice nor does everyone feel that IE 5.5, Outlook, or Outlook Express represent the best of anything. Why are you messing with Linux? If your computing environment suits... don't fix it, if it isn't broken. Bob H W5TFS Gil Baron W0MN wrote: -Original Message- From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 11:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Windoze On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 06:25:25PM -0500, Gilbert Baron wrote: Linux is so great, where are all of the applications. I will tell you where they are. They are not written because nobody can make money on it . What application do you need? They are all there! And everything is available, most even in GPL. Latest addition: StarOffice 6 will be GPL'd. Or do you mean application == games? If so, then yes, you are right; *professional* games are _still_ a weakness of Linux. But that'll change too. I mean applications for Ham Radio like Truetty RTTY and AMtor with sound cark Zakanaka PSK31 with sound card Logic 5 Logging and radio control program Fritz 6 Chess program that has beaten the world champion MS Office I don't want to convert files and everyone is using office FugawiA digital mapping program that allows me to make maps to put in my Palm for GPS use PSP5 The best low cost image processing program All this is only a start. I have 15000 files on my system. Of course not that many apps but a lot. Netscape sucks in comparison to IE5.5. Various other things that are not yet on Linux. Everyone expects everything for free on Linux. Well ad far as application choice goes, you get what you pay for. Yes, exactly! Everything I need is there: Office (KOffice, StarOffice), graphics (GIMP), browser (Netscape, Mozilla), email clients (lots and lotsa), news clients (too many to name 'em all), programming (what language do you want? I suppose that it is available), databases (MySQL, PostgreSQL, Interbase), Yes but these applications are not nearly as robust as the Usoft counterparts. Nothing available can touch Outlook and Outlook express. I am not hoping that we talk about LINUX in the past tense. I just find it is not ready for serious use yet AT HOME. So isn't Windows. That's all I'm trying to say. AGAIN though applications are the major thing, they drive the OS and not the other way around. THAT is the real world. Sure, and that's why Linux will "win". If there's something to win. Not at this time it won't. It is also MUCH harder to install for the average person. It is a fun toy and learning experience, that is all. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ: 7328191 i like this answer :)
Re: [newbie] Windoze
"F. E. Schaper" wrote: Hugh...I agree with you, Outlook is a terrible mail program I have no choice but to use it at work and keep my eyes wide open for the 2-3 viruses that I am sure to get each month. Of course when I am at home I don't really have to worry to much about viruses (thanks again Linux) In fact Windows leaves itself wide open (maybe this is how they got the name?) to anyone with a little time and intelligence to go right in and break, move, rename or destroy system files. On to the rest of the post (rant) As far as the rest of the software on that list goes...I did not know they made a software (Fritz 6) using my name...pretty cool I must admit. In regards to the rest of the list, I'm sure the Linux community is kicking themselves on a daily basis for not coming up with more Ham Radio softwaremaybe they should focus a little less on the dev software, the office software and the rest of the software that 99% of what users use to focus on what 1% of the community wants. But see the great thing about Linux is (you will find this out as you use it more often as I did) that because you have access to the kernel, you can program your own software for it...you don't have to rely on someone else (like Micosoft for example) to make an application to do what you want...you can do it yourselfand all it takes is some knowledge and sweat...no hard earned dollars have to be spent, just hard earned hours. That is the whole ideause it.develop for it...and share it Fritz - Original Message - From: Hugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 9:19 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Windoze I beg to differ, Outlook is Virus bate. We need a troll here almost as much as Outlook express. Hey ever wonder why so many companys refuse to use it? Give you a clue. It's Junk :) Now you have a real nice day and you dont forget to write. If Outlook will work that is :) Bye On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, you wrote: -Original Message- From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 11:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Windoze On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 06:25:25PM -0500, Gilbert Baron wrote: Linux is so great, where are all of the applications. I will tell you where they are. They are not written because nobody can make money on it . What application do you need? They are all there! And everything is available, most even in GPL. Latest addition: StarOffice 6 will be GPL'd. Or do you mean application == games? If so, then yes, you are right; *professional* games are _still_ a weakness of Linux. But that'll change too. I mean applications for Ham Radio like Truetty RTTY and AMtor with sound cark Zakanaka PSK31 with sound card Logic 5 Logging and radio control program Fritz 6 Chess program that has beaten the world champion MS Office I don't want to convert files and everyone is using office FugawiA digital mapping program that allows me to make maps to put in my Palm for GPS use PSP5 The best low cost image processing program All this is only a start. I have 15000 files on my system. Of course not that many apps but a lot. Netscape sucks in comparison to IE5.5. Various other things that are not yet on Linux. Everyone expects everything for free on Linux. Well ad far as application choice goes, you get what you pay for. Yes, exactly! Everything I need is there: Office (KOffice, StarOffice), graphics (GIMP), browser (Netscape, Mozilla), email clients (lots and lotsa), news clients (too many to name 'em all), programming (what language do you want? I suppose that it is available), databases (MySQL, PostgreSQL, Interbase), Yes but these applications are not nearly as robust as the Usoft counterparts. Nothing available can touch Outlook and Outlook express. I am not hoping that we talk about LINUX in the past tense. I just find it is not ready for serious use yet AT HOME. So isn't Windows. That's all I'm trying to say. AGAIN though applications are the major thing, they drive the OS and not the other way around. THAT is the real world. Sure, and that's why Linux will "win". If there's something to win. Not at this time it won't. It is also MUCH harder to install for the average person. It is a fun toy and learning experience, that is all. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ: 7328191 its posts like this that make me proud to be a little penguin :)
Re: [newbie] Windoze
sorry to cut off your name but i cant post up here if i dont for some reason. like i said many many of these browswers are in beta. some in alpha. hopefull konquer will fix u up soon. its coming out with kernal 2.4 supposedly and should do it all do it well. if u love me, send me some penguin toys :) the problem with all the browsers for Linux is the lack of Java compatability. I had a problem with Netscape crashing every time I used AIM Quickbuddy. At the time I didn't have any other choices, Opera doesn't support Java I heard Skate does, but it doesn't support Javascript! We need an IE for Linux!! --- patrick darcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roman Korcek wrote: Hey Patrick, linux has netscape, konquer, opera, mozilla to name a few. smartypants Opera isn't free and Mozilla is the successor of Netscape (at least it's trying to be). i thought it was sorta like but not netscape. /smartypants ;-) Roman thats true Roman, but there are at least 15 browsers . i am looking a t a cd from maximum linux. many are in beta. imagine when they are complete. 15 choices versus 1 for that other operting system. i understand that opera is about 40 bucks. but then its supposed to fit on one floppy and be lightning fast. na na na na na na = __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Windoze
Roman Korcek wrote: Hey Patrick, linux has netscape, konquer, opera, mozilla to name a few. smartypants Opera isn't free and Mozilla is the successor of Netscape (at least it's trying to be). /smartypants ;-) Roman thats true Roman, but there are at least 15 browsers . i am looking a t a cd from maximum linux. many are in beta. imagine when they are complete. 15 choices versus 1 for that other operting system. i understand that opera is about 40 bucks. but then its supposed to fit on one floppy and be lightning fast. na na na na na na
Re: [newbie] How to stop screen from blanking out?
this has happend to me too. what i did was change my screensaver , let it run awhile and then switched it back tox-screensaver. my machine now runs forever with the screensaver running. by th way this screensaver would cost 20 to 30 dollars on that other operating system. its in the mix with mandrake 7.1 now if i could just find a store in austin that carries penguin toys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you got power saving set in your BIOS ? On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, you wrote: I am running Mandrake 7.1 in a kde environment on a desktop. I have a screen saver installed (science). If I leave the PC unused for a time, the screensaver comes on, but a little later the screen blanks out until I reuse the PC. I thought this might be because APMD was on. Since this was a desktop I turned off APMD in startup services, but the screen still blanks out after a while. How can I stop this? Thanks. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185
Re: [newbie] Windoze
Alexander Skwar wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 04:47:21PM -0600, cjulwelling wrote: heh heh... I have had about the exact opposite luck as you. 7.0 died all the time on me where as 2000 has never crashed once... for me and I've had oh come on, be honest now :) nobody has that other operating system without crashes. are u posting this on all your own or did SOMEONE put u up to it :) Well, even if I wanted to, I couldn't try W2k, because my ISDN card, that worked perfectly fine (as long as something can work perfectly under Windoze) isn't even supported by W2k. And as long as there's no hardware support for an OS, it is no alternative to switch to. I'm running Linux for the last 3-4 years now, and don't remember when it last crashed. Windows NT I never tried at home, because I don't have a license for that. I don't care about it actually. And the only OS that I have license for (besides Linux obviously) is W98. And W98 is extremely unstable and with bad hardware suppport. E.g. it won't run my monitor at 1152x864 at 100Hz, where Linux does this pretty well. So, if someone really suggests to use Windoze, he can't have a clue. At least that's my experience. they both have weaknesses and strengths and I also enjoy having 4 OS's on my computer( Be, Linux, 2k, 98). : ) Not that it is any of my business, but what do you need 4 OS's for? W2k and Linux I can imagine, yes. But why 98 and Be? I personally need only one OS. BTW: Haven't tried Be yet, no hardware support for my ISDN card; no support == bad OS. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [newbie] Windoze
many will make money on Linux. i dont think anybody expects the latest and greatest games to be free. as far as business software goes, it seems to be mostly included. let me show u some of the strengths of linux. u can also purchase business softwarre if u wish. that other operating system has internet explorer linux has netscape, konquer, opera, mozilla to name a few. some are not complete yet and the list is growing. there are many choices in Linux, there is no one to dictate u what u have to use. and another thing do u realize the cost of that other operating system. i was in the computer store today and windoz office suite profession is 449 dollars. wait for the 2.4 kernal. u just might be pleasantly surprised. and keep in mind that it seems that Linux has only as of late begun to enter the desktop market. with people writing for Linux around the world, its just a matter of time before,welll, like Linus said ,:"World Domination" :) Alexander Skwar wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2000 at 06:25:25PM -0500, Gilbert Baron wrote: Linux is so great, where are all of the applications. I will tell you where they are. They are not written because nobody can make money on it . What application do you need? They are all there! And everything is available, most even in GPL. Latest addition: StarOffice 6 will be GPL'd. Or do you mean application == games? If so, then yes, you are right; *professional* games are _still_ a weakness of Linux. But that'll change too. Everyone expects everything for free on Linux. Well ad far as application choice goes, you get what you pay for. Yes, exactly! Everything I need is there: Office (KOffice, StarOffice), graphics (GIMP), browser (Netscape, Mozilla), email clients (lots and lotsa), news clients (too many to name 'em all), programming (what language do you want? I suppose that it is available), databases (MySQL, PostgreSQL, Interbase), I am not hoping that we talk about LINUX in the past tense. I just find it is not ready for serious use yet AT HOME. So isn't Windows. That's all I'm trying to say. AGAIN though applications are the major thing, they drive the OS and not the other way around. THAT is the real world. Sure, and that's why Linux will "win". If there's something to win. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [newbie] Printscreen?
is there one for kde On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 11:24:47PM -0700, Rob Ogilvie wrote: or even Paint. I am lost as to what to do in Linux, though. If you're using GNOME, then there's a small applet to just do that: ScreenShoter. You'll find it in Applets-Utilities. It's small, and does it's job very well. That's the way I do screenshots. Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP-Walt
Gil Baron W0MN wrote: After my troubles with 7.1 I have about the same feeling. I am doing this as a learning experience and something to play with. It is obvious that for serious work for the home user, LINUX is NOT there yet. Maybe some day. Install trouble and lack of applications are the villains. Even if install trouble vanished the lack of applications that interface with the rest of the world would do it. The lack of applications PERIOD for my ham radio uses alone mandates windows remains. i believe if the distros would upon installation of linux throw u into a low res mode and then let people pick their monitors and video cards i believe they would attract and keep a lot more people. there seems to be in my opinion this need to put u in a high res desktop just to have it crash. it doesnt make any sense to me. i do however love my Mandrake 7.1.. i think its esceptionally fast. i clicked on the hard drive optomisations when i installed mine. it seems to be much faster than that other operating system. i seem to get a feeling when the kernal. 2.4 is released we will find ourselves in a pool of software. -Original Message- From: Kathleen Dickason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 4:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP-Walt Charles A Edwards wrote: - Original Message - From: "walt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2000 2:18 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP So far I have not found anything useful on this list I wil be unsubdcribing..the right way. So far Linux can't even be compared to win2000..I don't know what all the hype is about linux..it really sucks as far as I can see... It is always hard for those who can not grasp something unless it is carried between their legs that there is life and wonder beyond their narrow minded vision. Good luck with "unsubdcribing". Charles P.S. don't forget to use fdisk/MBR to restore your boot record :-} *grin* is that like "don't let the door hit you on the way out"? Kathleen, being evil and replying on the bottom
[newbie] newbiew ?
i have installed mandrake 7.1 on the install i clicked on the ipchains. how do i check to see if they are actually running. thanks pat the newbie:)
Re: [newbie] Registered Linux User ???
Kim White wrote: HiHow do I register as a Linux User?Kind Regards Kim White Pinnacle Micro Secunda Tel: (017) 631 2668 FAX: (017) 631 3139 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] good questtion. i emailed mandrake and they couldnt help me either. i could not find a registration number and i purchased 7.0 and then 7.1 maybe someone will help us.
Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP
i love mine too :) Mark Weaver wrote: I tootally agree! :) -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 182496 On Sun, 16 Jul 2000, John Glasscock wrote: Fran Parker wrote: It is counterproductive to put new reply text below the original. The original is there to give reference to the new comments and the discussion. Bambi is correct in the realization that you put the important stuff first. That's why footnotes are at the bottom of a page, not the top. However, if you are commenting on several points in an email or discussion list, it is common and useful to set your new text below the original, again because of the context. Be logical. Sometimes directions are wrong or out-of-date. snip Alexander Skwar wrote: On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 08:03:23AM -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: And while we are at the netiquette: The netiquette also states that replies should be *BELOW* the text that you quote, and that in a reply you should only qoute the absolutely neccessary parts of the message, and not the whole message! Gosh, I wondered about that...I always put my comments at the beginning...my thinking was that it makes it easier to view the responses on an existing thread. I didn't realize it should go at the end. Guess I will need to change how I respond. Thanks for the tip. Bambi
