[newbie] Blackbox-Konqueror wierdness
Having a strange problem with Konqueror in blackbox...when I first boot the PC up, or restart X, if I log into blackbox, Konqueror won't start from the blackbox menu, unless I start it from a terminal first. After that, it works fine...but in KDE, it works from the menu, icons, everything. Thoughts? -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Blackbox-Konqueror wierdness
On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:11:17 -0500 (EST) Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled furiously: Having a strange problem with Konqueror in blackbox...when I first boot the PC up, or restart X, if I log into blackbox, Konqueror won't start from the blackbox menu, unless I start it from a terminal first. After that, it works fine...but in KDE, it works from the menu, icons, everything. Thoughts? = I would check the menu file to ascertain that the correct path is written there. Compare it to the path in your KDE icon or menu. HTH, Mike -- The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life. --Muhammad Ali Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Blackbox-Konqueror wierdness
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Michael Scottaline wrote: On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:11:17 -0500 (EST) Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled furiously: Having a strange problem with Konqueror in blackbox...when I first boot the PC up, or restart X, if I log into blackbox, Konqueror won't start from the blackbox menu, unless I start it from a terminal first. After that, it works fine...but in KDE, it works from the menu, icons, everything. Thoughts? = I would check the menu file to ascertain that the correct path is written there. Compare it to the path in your KDE icon or menu. HTH, Mike Sorry - I should have been more clear. After I call Konqueror once from a terminal, it will then work every other time when I call it from the menu. -- peace, Rog http://www.slammingrooves.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Blackbox-Konqueror wierdness
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 03:50, Roger Sherman wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Michael Scottaline wrote: On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:11:17 -0500 (EST) Roger Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled furiously: Having a strange problem with Konqueror in blackbox...when I first boot the PC up, or restart X, if I log into blackbox, Konqueror won't start from the blackbox menu, unless I start it from a terminal first. After that, it works fine...but in KDE, it works from the menu, icons, everything. Thoughts? = I would check the menu file to ascertain that the correct path is written there. Compare it to the path in your KDE icon or menu. HTH, Mike Sorry - I should have been more clear. After I call Konqueror once from a terminal, it will then work every other time when I call it from the menu. It's rather strange that it would/should do this, but it would appear as though some things need to be modified in order to have Konq eithe be found a bit faster, or have Konq find it's dependencies a bit faster. One thing that I ALWAYS do on EVERY system I get my grubbies on is to make sure the following lines are in the /etc/profile: KDEDIR='/usr' export KDEDIR ..and as well, I modify my /etc/ld.so.conf file so that all possible libs are in there and then re-run ldconfig to rebuild the cache (example): /usr/kerberos/lib /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/qt2/lib /usr/lib/sane /usr/lib/qt-1.45/lib /usr/lib/wine /usr/lib/mysql /usr/lib /usr/local/lib /usr/lib/qt-3.0.5/lib /usr/local/java/lib /usr/lib/qt3-gcc2.96/lib /usr/local/lib/xine/plugins/1.0.0/post /usr/lib/OpenOffice.org1.0/program /usr/i386-glibc21-linux/lib/ /opt/quasar/firebird/lib /opt/quasar/sybase/lib And even moreso - since you're running KDE applications from withing Blackbox, you might want to run kdeinit in the blackbox startup - this initialises the KDE DCOP server and services; hence when you've got it up and running already in the background as Blackbox is running, any KDE application you fire up is going to fire up quickly and more smoothly. Also check your menu files for Blackbox to make sure that the exec entries are correct and not wrapping the executable with another program...that's helpful. Meanwhile, it's now Saturday, and y'all still in Friday, so I'll go watch cartoons. -- Sat, 8 Mar 2003 07:15:01 +1100 7:15am up 1 day, 8:40, 5 users, load average: 0.23, 0.36, 0.41 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | || | linux user:267497 * RH 7.3/8.1 * Mandrake 9.1 * Microsoft Free | | PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Web/Graphics/Consulting | -- (CBG sits on a Portaloo reading Zebra Girl) CBG:Oh, it appears I will have to find a new fortress of solitude. King Of The Hill (Episode 5F16) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] blackbox config ques
Greetings, are there any blackbox users in the house? I've been experimenting with blackbox on my Mdk 9.0 a bit (0.62.1-3mdk), and I think it's pretty interesting. I also have bbconfg-1.8-2mdk installed too. I will have to do some reading up on bbconf to learn the in's and out's of it.(how to add entries to my menu primarily) However, what I would like to ask is how do I config my mouse settings, like acceleration and threshold? Do I have to edit a file or what? Nothing in bbconf for mouse settings :( Is there a plugin available to do mouse settings? TIA for any feedback. --Angus This is the Earth School..always in session. Now is the right time to learn, and teach.--A.A. * *Reg. Linux User #278931* * Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0 -- __ Download the FREE Opera browser at www.opera.com/download/ Free OperaMail at http://www.operamail.com/ Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] blackbox configuration
I've recently gotten to really enjoy using blackbox as a KDE/Gnome substitute for it's speed, but was wondering if further customization/configuration could be done, such as mouse speed, key bindings? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Blackbox
Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all: My first qestion to this list. I like light window managers, therefore am using Blackbox. In other environments one can tab through the desktops by using `control-F1' etc. How does one do this with BB? == If I'm understanding your question correctly Steve, try cntrl + - keys or cntrl + - to go the other way ;-) Blackbox has been my wm of choice for the past 10 months or so. HTH, Mike -- Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there. --Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
Re: [newbie] Blackbox
On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, Michael Scottaline wrote: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all: My first qestion to this list. I like light window managers, therefore am using Blackbox. In other environments one can tab through the desktops by using `control-F1' etc. How does one do this with BB? == If I'm understanding your question correctly Steve, try cntrl + - keys or cntrl + - to go the other way ;-) Blackbox has been my wm of choice for the past 10 months or so. That doesn't work unless it's set up in the config file. =) I was informed by another gentleman that the .blackboxrc file needs to have the proper line entered to turn this feature on. I'm perplexed it's not there by default as even XFce does it as a default. Thanks for the help Michael. -- Cheers, Steve - ICQ 35454764 Toronto
[newbie] Blackbox
Hello all: My first qestion to this list. I like light window managers, therefore am using Blackbox. In other environments one can tab through the desktops by using `control-F1' etc. How does one do this with BB? -- Cheers, Steve - ICQ 35454764 Toronto
[newbie] BlackBox
Hello! Could anybody tell me how can I add an application on the BlackBox menus? Thanks! Corrado
Re: [newbie] BlackBox
On Sunday 17 June 2001 21:08, Verysmiley wrote: Hello! Could anybody tell me how can I add an application on the BlackBox menus? Thanks! Corrado In a terminal type $ su - $ password (your root password) # DrakConf when the window comes up choose System then Menu Editor Civileme
Re: [newbie] BlackBox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Wow!! I just tried BlackBox, it was an awesomely light, but useful gui. I also installed Enlightenment. It looks like fun, but for some reason I don't get my applications menu. All that I can do is look at the help file. Any ideas why?? Are there any GUI similar to BlackBox, but with just a few more features?? Thanks!! Ammon == Blackbox is my favorite and has been for about the last 8 months. You might want to give windowmaker a try, however. HTH, Mike -- "Many loads of beer were brought. What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing, and dreadful idolatry took place there." --Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
Re: [newbie] BlackBox
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:40:04 -0700, you wrote: Hi, Wow!! I just tried BlackBox, it was an awesomely light, but useful gui. I also installed Enlightenment. It looks like fun, but for some reason I don't get my applications menu. All that I can do is look at the help file. Any ideas why?? Are there any GUI similar to BlackBox, but with just a few more features?? Hi Ammon, I'm a Blackbox user myself, and have become quite the devotee...At first, I wished for a couple more features, but now I won't use anything else (I'm suffering in Winbitesmyfatwhiteass right now, since I can't get 8.0 online)! Stick with it a week or so, and I bet you'll feel the same... Thanks!! Ammon
Re: [newbie] BlackBox
Roger, You can borrow my 7.2 disks if you want. I don't mind sending them to you. ;) Mark Rog wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:40:04 -0700, you wrote: Hi, Wow!! I just tried BlackBox, it was an awesomely light, but useful gui. I also installed Enlightenment. It looks like fun, but for some reason I don't get my applications menu. All that I can do is look at the help file. Any ideas why?? Are there any GUI similar to BlackBox, but with just a few more features?? Hi Ammon, I'm a Blackbox user myself, and have become quite the devotee...At first, I wished for a couple more features, but now I won't use anything else (I'm suffering in Winbitesmyfatwhiteass right now, since I can't get 8.0 online)! Stick with it a week or so, and I bet you'll feel the same... Thanks!! Ammon -- Mark You know...if my wife were any nicer to me I'd have to buy a new suite!
[newbie] Blackbox / pungki
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, pungki wrote: Hi May I know where I can find blackbox website , please? I need documentation about Blackbox, like FAQ, HOWTO or something like that. Because I don't understand how to use blackbox. Even I don't know how to change background. :-( Any help would be greatly appreciated. -Pungki I think it is http://alu.blackbox.com but a search for it on Google (www.google.com) would be best Paul -- The Bible was written by the same people who said the Earth was flat. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Blackbox / pungki
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, you wrote: I think it is http://alu.blackbox.com but a search for it on Google (www.google.com) would be best close, but no cigar, it is http://blackbox.alug.org/ The Bible was written by the same people who said the Earth was flat. Actually, those folks just decided what books went into the "official" bible, the actual authors were long dead at the time. http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 - Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21 on Linux Mandrake 7.1=- -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] blackbox
On Tue, 2 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using it on a mandrake box ver 7.02 with a cyrix 150mhz processor 48 megs ram and 10 gigs hdd. will that run it? I have another box PII 300 128 megs ram 16 gigs but I don't want to change it till I see if I like it. You can just start an xinit session (just starting X without any window manager) by typing xinit on a command line. If you already have a running X, add the "-- :1" (without quotes) paramter to the command line. When you have your xinit running, you can run any wm you want from within the xterm displayed in it. So, if you have blackbox installed, you just type blackbox in the xterm. and what is the easiest way to install I went to the site and there's 2 kindsSource.tar.gz download Source.tar.bz2 download which do I use? Those are exactly the same. Only the method to decompress the sources will change : with the .tar.gz file, you uncompress it with : tar zxf Source.tar.gz or gunzip -c Source.tar.gz |tar xf - With the .tar.bz2 file : tar yxf Source.tar.bz2 (I'm not sure of this one) or bzcat Source.tar.bz2 |tar xf - (this one will sure work) Whatever file you choose, you will end with a directory with the sources in it. Usually, you just have to cd to that directory, then run : ./configure make su -c "make install" But it is safe to read the README or the INSTALL file provided with the sources before doing that. But if you have a mdk distro, the easiest way would be to install the rpm package. (Isn't it provided with the mdk CD? I'm not sure, since I don't use mandrake anymore). I also noticed that there are not any docs that I can see for install instructions. I hope my above instructions will help you. But if it isn't the case, go to to the blackbox site for more info (http://blackbox.alug.org/) I am a newbie but wanted a faster X session so I would like to try it. Trust me, you'll have that with blackbox! :-) HTH Flupke Any direction or suggestions with this would be greatly appreciated. many thanks MF On Mon, 1 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just saw the message about blackbox. Has anyone tried it and if so how does it compare to say a more standard X? I usually use blackbox. I like it. It's fast and light, but of course, it's a bit 'nude' in front of KDE, GNOME, or even enlightenment. I'd advice you to try it to make your own idea. If you want to start it without quitting your currently running Xwindow, just go to a console abd type : xinit -e blackbox -- :1 and it will open a new X server running blackbox. Flupke Mike Get your own free email account from http://www.popmail.com Get your own free email account from http://www.popmail.com
Re: [newbie] blackbox
I'm using it on a mandrake box ver 7.02 with a cyrix 150mhz processor 48 megs ram and 10 gigs hdd. will that run it? I have another box PII 300 128 megs ram 16 gigs but I don't want to change it till I see if I like it. and what is the easiest way to install I went to the site and there's 2 kindsSource.tar.gz download Source.tar.bz2 download which do I use? I also noticed that there are not any docs that I can see for install instructions. I am a newbie but wanted a faster X session so I would like to try it. Any direction or suggestions with this would be greatly appreciated. many thanks MF On Mon, 1 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just saw the message about blackbox. Has anyone tried it and if so how does it compare to say a more standard X? I usually use blackbox. I like it. It's fast and light, but of course, it's a bit 'nude' in front of KDE, GNOME, or even enlightenment. I'd advice you to try it to make your own idea. If you want to start it without quitting your currently running Xwindow, just go to a console abd type : xinit -e blackbox -- :1 and it will open a new X server running blackbox. Flupke Mike Get your own free email account from http://www.popmail.com Get your own free email account from http://www.popmail.com
[newbie] blackbox
I just saw the message about blackbox. Has anyone tried it and if so how does it compare to say a more standard X? Mike Get your own free email account from http://www.popmail.com
Re: [newbie] blackbox
On Mon, 1 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just saw the message about blackbox. Has anyone tried it and if so how does it compare to say a more standard X? I usually use blackbox. I like it. It's fast and light, but of course, it's a bit 'nude' in front of KDE, GNOME, or even enlightenment. I'd advice you to try it to make your own idea. If you want to start it without quitting your currently running Xwindow, just go to a console abd type : xinit -e blackbox -- :1 and it will open a new X server running blackbox. Flupke Mike Get your own free email account from http://www.popmail.com
Re: [newbie] Blackbox Window manager
Hya. I use BB for the moment. It's easy to autostart apps, regardless which windowmanager you use. Just edit the file called .xinitrc in your homedir to start some processes in the background. Let's say I'd like to start an xterm, an xosview and a netscape together with blackbox, then my .xinitrc file would look like this: xterm xosview netscape-communicator #or whatever the command is blackbox As you can see, all commands except blackbox start in the background. At least one program must run in "foreground", otherwise the script will terminate. Read the apropriate man-pages (man startx) for more info. On Feb 27 Paul Hendrick wrote: Is there anyone who uses the BlackBox window manager, who can tell me how to autorun applications, when BB is started? TIA. -- Rial Juan http://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel: (++32) 89/856533 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org Unix IS user-friendly. It's just not ignorant-friendly or idiot-friendly. -- Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html Help bring us more Linux Drivers
[newbie] Blackbox Window manager
Is there anyone who uses the BlackBox window manager, who can tell me how to autorun applications, when BB is started? TIA.
Re: [newbie] blackbox/kde
Brent Timmer wrote: I like to log on using blackbox, and then go under themes and select blackbox/kde. Does anyone know how to either make blackbox/kde a log on choice, or to automatically choose it after getting into blackbox? If you haven't figured it out by now, configuring this is a very simple task. Just do the following: KDE Menus Settings Applications Login Manger go to the last tab and add blackbox.. that should work. Dave
Re: [newbie] Blackbox
Sean Armstrong wrote: Dennis Robertson wrote: Sean Armstrong wrote: Hello Blackbox Users, I was impressed by the supporting comments for blackbox, so I installed it with KDE enabled. Here is the dumb question. I read the install and run notes but nothing tells me how to actually start it ie get it on my desktop. Has the install not worked or am I missing something obvious? Please be kind. -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street, NOOSAVILLE, QLD, 4566, AUSTRALIA Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mobile: 0419 535539 Fax: Phone first. I just changed my Xclients file to read: #!/bin/bash kpanel kfm -d /usr/local/bin/blackbox Of course you don't have to add the lines kpanel and kfm -d , I added these so that the desktop icon for kde and the kpanel would appear. These are my own tastes. The blackbox binary was located in my /usr/local/bin file. Make sure that you place the bsetroot bin somewhere where the OS can access it ie. /bin . Then just save this to your Xclients file, remember to back up the original Xclients file in case something goes wrong. Then just run startx from the command line prompt and you will be on you way. left/right clicking the desktop will pull up the blackbox menu, which probably needs to be edited to work properly with your system (..very easy to do), or the iconify menu. Have fun, and spread the word. Blackbox is the fastest and easiest to modify GUI out there. SA Thanks Sean, It works and I am evaluating it. I appreciate the kpanel and kfm additions. It seems faster, but not markedly so. I find it cumbersome to shut down - is there a way of having it start (run level 5) and shutdown by default if I decide to go with it. Regards. -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street, NOOSAVILLE, QLD, 4566, AUSTRALIA Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mobile: 0419 535539 Fax: Phone first. If you want to shutdown from blackbox, right click the desktop and click on exit in the menu. Don't confuse the blackbox pulldown menu with the kpanel pulldown menu. If you just want to shutdown your computer, you can exit blackbox and then shutdown, or wite a little script and give it executable permissions: #!/bin/bash shutdown now Or just type in shutdown now from any command line. I don't know how fast your computer is, but mine is 133Mhz, so I am able to notice how much of a memory hog KDE is compared to Blackbox. There may be no noticable difference on faster computers. But you can use xmemon (..I think) and visually compare the two. But, again, this may not matter to folks who are running 300 + Mhz computers. I also like the way Blackbox is so small and easily configurable. But thats me. Enjoy. SA -- When GOD endowed human beings with brains, He did not intend to guaratee them. Sean, Thanks. I'm running an AMD K6 200MMX with 64mb ram. I'll ask our support group to try Blackbox and report in due course. Dennis. -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street, NOOSAVILLE, QLD, 4566, AUSTRALIA Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mobile: 0419 535539 Fax: Phone first.
Re: [newbie] Blackbox
Sean Armstrong wrote: Hello Blackbox Users, I was impressed by the supporting comments for blackbox, so I installed it with KDE enabled. Here is the dumb question. I read the install and run notes but nothing tells me how to actually start it ie get it on my desktop. Has the install not worked or am I missing something obvious? Please be kind. -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street, NOOSAVILLE, QLD, 4566, AUSTRALIA Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mobile: 0419 535539 Fax: Phone first. I just changed my Xclients file to read: #!/bin/bash kpanel kfm -d /usr/local/bin/blackbox Of course you don't have to add the lines kpanel and kfm -d , I added these so that the desktop icon for kde and the kpanel would appear. These are my own tastes. The blackbox binary was located in my /usr/local/bin file. Make sure that you place the bsetroot bin somewhere where the OS can access it ie. /bin . Then just save this to your Xclients file, remember to back up the original Xclients file in case something goes wrong. Then just run startx from the command line prompt and you will be on you way. left/right clicking the desktop will pull up the blackbox menu, which probably needs to be edited to work properly with your system (..very easy to do), or the iconify menu. Have fun, and spread the word. Blackbox is the fastest and easiest to modify GUI out there. SA Thanks Sean, It works and I am evaluating it. I appreciate the kpanel and kfm additions. It seems faster, but not markedly so. I find it cumbersome to shut down - is there a way of having it start (run level 5) and shutdown by default if I decide to go with it. Regards. -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street, NOOSAVILLE, QLD, 4566, AUSTRALIA Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mobile: 0419 535539 Fax: Phone first.
[newbie] Blackbox
Hello Blackbox Users, I was impressed by the supporting comments for blackbox, so I installed it with KDE enabled. Here is the dumb question. I read the install and run notes but nothing tells me how to actually start it ie get it on my desktop. Has the install not worked or am I missing something obvious? Please be kind. -- Dennis Robertson 2/2 Sylvia Street, NOOSAVILLE, QLD, 4566, AUSTRALIA Phone: 61 7 54742343 Mobile: 0419 535539 Fax: Phone first.
