Re: [newbie] Boot error message
At 09:06 PM 6/23/2003 -0400, you wrote: snips Femme: Give me a call when the price drops to $10. That must include the necessary adapters and drivers to upgrade the various offsprings' collection of proprietary and two-guys-and-a-goat POS. (Ever try to find a BIOS upgrade for a TMC motherboard?) Until that glorious day arrives, I'll take very good care of my floppies. -- cmg Well damn... ok you got me there... but still i understood there were diskonkeys that don't need drivers. As for $10..ya i see your point there.. sigh - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Boot error message
Never had much joy with LS120 drives - kept going out of alignment and then wouldn't read the 120MB disks or write to the floppies - Linux or Win. Ditched them after the second failure. DougB On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 18:33, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 23 Jun 2003 6:25 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Monday 23 June 2003 05:15 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 23 Jun 2003 3:40 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Good news: Floppies are becoming extinct. According to the current Dell catalog, floppy drives are now extra-cost options! This may make sense in a corporate environment, but it strikes me that it is certainly going to complicate trouble shooting a standalone home PC. -- cmg So a useful tool for your box would be a usb superfloppy. I think they are still available? Most modern bioses will boot from LS120 and zip, I think Anne Anne: Good point, and something that the laptop folks have learned to do. However, I still like the idea of a $10 floppy drive and a small stack of disks with various recovery tools on them. Floppies may be slow, and their limited capacity is a real pain, but they are simple, robust and nearly universal -- at least in the home/SOHO desktop realm. Ugly scenario: #2 Daughter buys floppy-less Dell. Something goes wrong. #2 Daughter calls Daddy for help. Daddy spends a lot of time just figuring how to get into the #$*! Dell so Daddy can use toolset while assorted grandchildren incessantly repeat that they want to help Grampa. Rinse and repeat for #1 Daughter and #1 Son. -- cmg Know the feeling g I know they're not fashionable, but I wouldn't be without my LS120. It reads standard floppies as well as the 120MB disks, so it would still do what you want. Oops - I sound as though I work for Imation g Anne __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Boot error message
On Monday 23 Jun 2003 11:29 pm, ed tharp wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 13:25, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Monday 23 June 2003 05:15 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 23 Jun 2003 3:40 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Good news: Floppies are becoming extinct. According to the current Dell catalog, floppy drives are now extra-cost options! This may make sense in a corporate environment, but it strikes me that it is certainly going to complicate trouble shooting a standalone home PC. -- cmg So a useful tool for your box would be a usb superfloppy. I think they are still available? Most modern bioses will boot from LS120 and zip, I think Anne Anne: Good point, and something that the laptop folks have learned to do. However, I still like the idea of a $10 floppy drive and a small stack of disks with various recovery tools on them. Floppies may be slow, and their limited capacity is a real pain, but they are simple, robust and nearly universal -- at least in the home/SOHO desktop realm. Ugly scenario: #2 Daughter buys floppy-less Dell. Something goes wrong. #2 Daughter calls Daddy for help. Daddy spends a lot of time just figuring how to get into the #$*! Dell so Daddy can use toolset while assorted grandchildren incessantly repeat that they want to help Grampa. Rinse and repeat for #1 Daughter and #1 Son. -- cmg only thing, even with no floppy, they can boot from CDrom, so in a word, Knopptix Some older bioses can't. so why not be safe and have both? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Boot error message
On Tuesday 24 Jun 2003 10:50 am, Douglas Bainbridge wrote: Never had much joy with LS120 drives - kept going out of alignment and then wouldn't read the 120MB disks or write to the floppies - Linux or Win. Ditched them after the second failure. It's funny, isn't it, that whatever you talk about, some have good experiences, while others have bad ones. There must be related issues that we're never aware of. All I know is that I've been using them for years (about 10, I would think), first an internal one, now a usb one, and apart from needing a cleaning tape run through now and again, it's never been a problem. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Boot error message
On Monday 23 Jun 2003 3:40 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Good news: Floppies are becoming extinct. According to the current Dell catalog, floppy drives are now extra-cost options! This may make sense in a corporate environment, but it strikes me that it is certainly going to complicate trouble shooting a standalone home PC. -- cmg So a useful tool for your box would be a usb superfloppy. I think they are still available? Most modern bioses will boot from LS120 and zip, I think Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Boot error message
On Monday 23 June 2003 05:15 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 23 Jun 2003 3:40 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Good news: Floppies are becoming extinct. According to the current Dell catalog, floppy drives are now extra-cost options! This may make sense in a corporate environment, but it strikes me that it is certainly going to complicate trouble shooting a standalone home PC. -- cmg So a useful tool for your box would be a usb superfloppy. I think they are still available? Most modern bioses will boot from LS120 and zip, I think Anne Anne: Good point, and something that the laptop folks have learned to do. However, I still like the idea of a $10 floppy drive and a small stack of disks with various recovery tools on them. Floppies may be slow, and their limited capacity is a real pain, but they are simple, robust and nearly universal -- at least in the home/SOHO desktop realm. Ugly scenario: #2 Daughter buys floppy-less Dell. Something goes wrong. #2 Daughter calls Daddy for help. Daddy spends a lot of time just figuring how to get into the #$*! Dell so Daddy can use toolset while assorted grandchildren incessantly repeat that they want to help Grampa. Rinse and repeat for #1 Daughter and #1 Son. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Boot error message
On Monday 23 Jun 2003 6:25 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Monday 23 June 2003 05:15 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 23 Jun 2003 3:40 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Good news: Floppies are becoming extinct. According to the current Dell catalog, floppy drives are now extra-cost options! This may make sense in a corporate environment, but it strikes me that it is certainly going to complicate trouble shooting a standalone home PC. -- cmg So a useful tool for your box would be a usb superfloppy. I think they are still available? Most modern bioses will boot from LS120 and zip, I think Anne Anne: Good point, and something that the laptop folks have learned to do. However, I still like the idea of a $10 floppy drive and a small stack of disks with various recovery tools on them. Floppies may be slow, and their limited capacity is a real pain, but they are simple, robust and nearly universal -- at least in the home/SOHO desktop realm. Ugly scenario: #2 Daughter buys floppy-less Dell. Something goes wrong. #2 Daughter calls Daddy for help. Daddy spends a lot of time just figuring how to get into the #$*! Dell so Daddy can use toolset while assorted grandchildren incessantly repeat that they want to help Grampa. Rinse and repeat for #1 Daughter and #1 Son. -- cmg Know the feeling g I know they're not fashionable, but I wouldn't be without my LS120. It reads standard floppies as well as the 120MB disks, so it would still do what you want. Oops - I sound as though I work for Imation g Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Boot error message
At 06:33 PM 6/23/2003 +0100, you wrote: snips a rattlesnakes rattler! OHH! Ugly scenario: #2 Daughter buys floppy-less Dell. Something goes wrong. #2 Daughter calls Daddy for help. Daddy spends a lot of time just figuring how to get into the #$*! Dell so Daddy can use toolset while assorted grandchildren incessantly repeat that they want to help Grampa. Rinse and repeat for #1 Daughter and #1 Son. -- cmg Know the feeling g I know they're not fashionable, but I wouldn't be without my LS120. It reads standard floppies as well as the 120MB disks, so it would still do what you want. Oops - I sound as though I work for Imation g Anne Wake up OLD PEOPLE! Its called DISK ON KEY! HELLO?! USB keys? you know?? recognized as a floppy device by bioses now? ;D - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Boot error message
On Monday 23 Jun 2003 8:59 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: Wake up OLD PEOPLE! Its called DISK ON KEY! HELLO?! USB keys? you know?? recognized as a floppy device by bioses now? ;D They're not old people unless they've compiled a *nix kernel to 8 inch floppy. (yes, I have, and for those who assume I mean 5 1/4: I don't) -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Boot error message
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 13:25, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Monday 23 June 2003 05:15 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 23 Jun 2003 3:40 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: Good news: Floppies are becoming extinct. According to the current Dell catalog, floppy drives are now extra-cost options! This may make sense in a corporate environment, but it strikes me that it is certainly going to complicate trouble shooting a standalone home PC. -- cmg So a useful tool for your box would be a usb superfloppy. I think they are still available? Most modern bioses will boot from LS120 and zip, I think Anne Anne: Good point, and something that the laptop folks have learned to do. However, I still like the idea of a $10 floppy drive and a small stack of disks with various recovery tools on them. Floppies may be slow, and their limited capacity is a real pain, but they are simple, robust and nearly universal -- at least in the home/SOHO desktop realm. Ugly scenario: #2 Daughter buys floppy-less Dell. Something goes wrong. #2 Daughter calls Daddy for help. Daddy spends a lot of time just figuring how to get into the #$*! Dell so Daddy can use toolset while assorted grandchildren incessantly repeat that they want to help Grampa. Rinse and repeat for #1 Daughter and #1 Son. -- cmg only thing, even with no floppy, they can boot from CDrom, so in a word, Knopptix __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Boot error message
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 22:32:56 +0100 Richard Urwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: They're not old people unless they've compiled a *nix kernel to 8 inch floppy. God, I haven't seen one of those since my mom took a computer course for work when I was 10. She used a Wang computer... I always thought that was very very funny. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Do what thou wilt, this shall be the + whole of the law. + Quote of the day from Slashdot: + God forbid the FBI go after dangerous criminals ... + I feel much safer with pot smokers and warez + kiddies behind bars. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Boot error message
On Monday 23 June 2003 03:59 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: At 06:33 PM 6/23/2003 +0100, you wrote: snips a rattlesnakes rattler! OHH! Ugly scenario: #2 Daughter buys floppy-less Dell. Something goes wrong. #2 Daughter calls Daddy for help. Daddy spends a lot of time just figuring how to get into the #$*! Dell so Daddy can use toolset while assorted grandchildren incessantly repeat that they want to help Grampa. Rinse and repeat for #1 Daughter and #1 Son. -- cmg Wake up OLD PEOPLE! Its called DISK ON KEY! HELLO?! USB keys? you know?? recognized as a floppy device by bioses now? ;D - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Femme: Give me a call when the price drops to $10. That must include the necessary adapters and drivers to upgrade the various offsprings' collection of proprietary and two-guys-and-a-goat POS. (Ever try to find a BIOS upgrade for a TMC motherboard?) Until that glorious day arrives, I'll take very good care of my floppies. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Boot error message
I have googled and archived the www and not found a decent answer to the message I get on boot since I changed out my CDROM. Message is ; A: drive error F1 to continue . I hit F1 and the system boots up and both hda and hdc are there and both cdrw and cdrom work. I am puzzled about what drive is in error. Any one seen this before? Advice? Guesses for grabs. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Boot error message
Dennis Myers wrote: I have googled and archived the www and not found a decent answer to the message I get on boot since I changed out my CDROM. Message is ; A: drive error F1 to continue . I hit F1 and the system boots up and both hda and hdc are there and both cdrw and cdrom work. I am puzzled about what drive is in error. Any one seen this before? Advice? Guesses for grabs. I had that error come up last week after installing a new CDRW on my A7N8X mobo, turned out I had dislodged the floppy drive cable and when I reconnected it the boot up message disappeared. HTH Graham -- Proudly powered by GNU/Linux Mandrake-9.1 kernel 2.4.21-0.18 Registered Linux User #309089 Machine #195076 A7N8X XP2700+ 512RAM Gf4Ti4600 80Gb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Boot error message
On Sunday 22 June 2003 07:04 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: I have googled and archived the www and not found a decent answer to the message I get on boot since I changed out my CDROM. Message is ; A: drive error F1 to continue . I hit F1 and the system boots up and both hda and hdc are there and both cdrw and cdrom work. I am puzzled about what drive is in error. Any one seen this before? Advice? Guesses for grabs. Dennis: A shot in the dark: Based on the reference to A:, it looks like a BIOS message. Is your BIOS is set to boot from floppy? -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Boot error message
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 09:04, Dennis Myers wrote: I have googled and archived the www and not found a decent answer to the message I get on boot since I changed out my CDROM. Message is ; A: drive error F1 to continue . I hit F1 and the system boots up and both hda and hdc are there and both cdrw and cdrom work. I am puzzled about what drive is in error. Any one seen this before? Advice? Guesses for grabs. Is it safe to assume that you didn't change anything in BIOS or that the jumpers on the drive are set properly? -- Mon Jun 23 09:30:00 EST 2003 09:30:00 up 1 day, 18:40, 4 users, load average: 0.82, 0.37, 0.23 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * What this country needs is a good five dollar plasma weapon. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
