Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
To be pedantic, theliquid crystals are not a polarised light source. The light comes from a uniform light at the back of the screen. This is polarised by a filter and then passed through the liquid crystal matrix. The crystals that are powered twist the polarisation 90 degrees. The light then passes through a second polarisation filter at 90 degrees to the first. If no twist is involved the light is stopped by that and the pixel is black. If the liqid crystals have twisted the light, however, the light passes through and appears bright. Colour is created by a mask layer of red, green and blue dots in register with the pixels, so each screen pixel is made up of at least three liquid crystal elements; one for each primary colour. The liquid effect when you touch the screen is caused by the pressure deforming the whole thing and compressing the liquid crystal layer, which is, after all, liquid. Nice trick: try looking at an LCD display of any sort, including a calculator or a watch, with polaroid sunglasses on. At some angle the whole display goes dark because the polarised light is at right angles to the polariod filter in the glasses. On Wednesday 27 Aug 2003 11:26 am, Tony S. Sykes wrote: Exactly. -Original Message- From: John Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 12:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen Now that is an interesting article. So a pixel is really light bent by electronic switching of the crystalls that act as polarised light sources. I quess that is why if you run your finger lightly over the serface of a LCD monitor you get a kind of watery effect of the picture. What I didn't find clear was whether each polarised light source is assigned a specific colour source or whether a given crystal can be made to emit either of the 3 primary colours. Anyway the essense of the matter as to how good a picture you are going to get is the number of pixel polarised light sources per given area and the speed by which those polarised light sources can be switched on and off. Yes ? John stormjumper wrote: hi John, er, just a slight correction here. a typical basic specfication for a crt is the vertical refresh rate. i believe that is what u're referring to when you mentioned 85. it should probably read as 85hz, ie 85 cycles per second. a typical recommended comfortable value for most pp is 75, altho that requirement goes up as the screen gets larger. fyi, this refresh rate value has nothing to do w sharpness. most consumer LCDs are generally sharper than consumer CRTs, hence being easier on the eyes. some frens in certain creative fields, namely design and architecture, claim that the pro CRTs (typically 19 and above) are equally sharp, if not sharper. these obviously come at non-consumer prices as well. also, vertical refresh rate is not really relevant for LCDs. you can refer to http://www.lcdmonitors.philips.com/lcdmonitors/articles/basics_of_lc d.a sp Why is a vertical frequency of 60 Hz optimal for an LCD monitor? which will explain far better than i can. for LCD's the more relevant spec is prolly the response time, which is a figure typically between 15-40 ms. the smaller the number, the better for watching video/playing games, as it will result is less visual streaking/smearing/watever you call it. you should also take note of the brightness and contrast ratio, which is impt esp if you work in a very well-lit environment, eg a sun lit room. otherwise, most lcds are bright enough. enuff said. hope these help. - Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 20:46 Subject: Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen I see, so in regards to TFT's it's not a case then of a beam of electrons scanning the screen top left to botton right so many times a second ( CRT of 85Mhz = 85 refershed scans per second) but a question of how many times a pixel is electronically swithced on and off electronically, that is by a circuit behind that pixel ? So a TFT with a refresh rate of 16ms is being switched on and off, 16/1000of a second each time. I guess as time goes on that time will decrease some as technology improves. Yes, I think Dell merely badge someone elses make don't they, they buy in large orders at a time at best prices and badge them, and sometimes they get a bad deal, and sell the shipment off quickly to a retailer for a knockdown price. That is why I was suspicious in the first place, and came to the list, because I have extremely limited experience with these devices. Seems like I will have to keep my old CRT's a while longer yet. John -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
John, The way I understand it, is that it only changes the pixel if it needs it. It does not refresh at all in the same way as a crt. As you say the crt beams all the lines one after another, the tft only changes a pixel when it needs changing. If I remember correctly Tom's Hardware has an article on it which will explain it a lot better than me. Tony. -Original Message- From: John Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 1:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen I see, so in regards to TFT's it's not a case then of a beam of electrons scanning the screen top left to botton right so many times a second ( CRT of 85Mhz = 85 refershed scans per second) but a question of how many times a pixel is electronically swithced on and off electronically, that is by a circuit behind that pixel ? So a TFT with a refresh rate of 16ms is being switched on and off, 16/1000of a second each time. I guess as time goes on that time will decrease some as technology improves. Yes, I think Dell merely badge someone elses make don't they, they buy in large orders at a time at best prices and badge them, and sometimes they get a bad deal, and sell the shipment off quickly to a retailer for a knockdown price. That is why I was suspicious in the first place, and came to the list, because I have extremely limited experience with these devices. Seems like I will have to keep my old CRT's a while longer yet. John Tony S. Sykes wrote: John, I am sure Dell sell rebranded monitors anyway (correct me if I am wrong). So you need to try and find out who the original manufacturer is. I've got a Hitachi 17 1280x1024 with a 16ms refresh rate. It is a lot sharper than crt's. Mine cost a little more about £400 but it was the top of the range in the 16ms bracket (6 months ago). You only need that fast a response if your gaming (and I do). The faster the response the less ghosting you get (response is the time it takes for the pixel to turn off and back on again, the system does not refresh in the same sense as a crt). There is no flicker on tft's like crt's so don't worry about that. I think they are a lot better (less power hungry too). Thanks, Tony. -Original Message- From: John Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 5:11 PM To: NEWBIE 1 Subject: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen OK, so this is an offer from a UK supplier and I asked them what resolution is it capable of. They replied, Its native resolution is 1280 x 1024. It'll go higher with interpolation but the image quality suffers. TFTs aren't like CRTs in that respect because the screen is constructed from a grid of pixels of dimensions 1280 x 1024. So this means in effect the best resolution is 1280 x 1024, right ? Well that is what I'm used to, and the price is right, though I would dearly of liked a 19 for the same money. Question , How much would you have to pay in the states for a 19 flat screen with at least 1280 x 1024 resolution and is that the same in reality as a regular CRT monitor of the same resolution ? Who has the experience to say ? because I don't. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
hi John, er, just a slight correction here. a typical basic specfication for a crt is the vertical refresh rate. i believe that is what u're referring to when you mentioned 85. it should probably read as 85hz, ie 85 cycles per second. a typical recommended comfortable value for most pp is 75, altho that requirement goes up as the screen gets larger. fyi, this refresh rate value has nothing to do w sharpness. most consumer LCDs are generally sharper than consumer CRTs, hence being easier on the eyes. some frens in certain creative fields, namely design and architecture, claim that the pro CRTs (typically 19 and above) are equally sharp, if not sharper. these obviously come at non-consumer prices as well. also, vertical refresh rate is not really relevant for LCDs. you can refer to http://www.lcdmonitors.philips.com/lcdmonitors/articles/basics_of_lcd.asp Why is a vertical frequency of 60 Hz optimal for an LCD monitor? which will explain far better than i can. for LCD's the more relevant spec is prolly the response time, which is a figure typically between 15-40 ms. the smaller the number, the better for watching video/playing games, as it will result is less visual streaking/smearing/watever you call it. you should also take note of the brightness and contrast ratio, which is impt esp if you work in a very well-lit environment, eg a sun lit room. otherwise, most lcds are bright enough. enuff said. hope these help. - Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 20:46 Subject: Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen I see, so in regards to TFT's it's not a case then of a beam of electrons scanning the screen top left to botton right so many times a second ( CRT of 85Mhz = 85 refershed scans per second) but a question of how many times a pixel is electronically swithced on and off electronically, that is by a circuit behind that pixel ? So a TFT with a refresh rate of 16ms is being switched on and off, 16/1000of a second each time. I guess as time goes on that time will decrease some as technology improves. Yes, I think Dell merely badge someone elses make don't they, they buy in large orders at a time at best prices and badge them, and sometimes they get a bad deal, and sell the shipment off quickly to a retailer for a knockdown price. That is why I was suspicious in the first place, and came to the list, because I have extremely limited experience with these devices. Seems like I will have to keep my old CRT's a while longer yet. John Tony S. Sykes wrote: John, I am sure Dell sell rebranded monitors anyway (correct me if I am wrong). So you need to try and find out who the original manufacturer is. I've got a Hitachi 17 1280x1024 with a 16ms refresh rate. It is a lot sharper than crt's. Mine cost a little more about £400 but it was the top of the range in the 16ms bracket (6 months ago). You only need that fast a response if your gaming (and I do). The faster the response the less ghosting you get (response is the time it takes for the pixel to turn off and back on again, the system does not refresh in the same sense as a crt). There is no flicker on tft's like crt's so don't worry about that. I think they are a lot better (less power hungry too). Thanks, Tony. -Original Message- From: John Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 5:11 PM To: NEWBIE 1 Subject: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen OK, so this is an offer from a UK supplier and I asked them what resolution is it capable of. They replied, Its native resolution is 1280 x 1024. It'll go higher with interpolation but the image quality suffers. TFTs aren't like CRTs in that respect because the screen is constructed from a grid of pixels of dimensions 1280 x 1024. So this means in effect the best resolution is 1280 x 1024, right ? Well that is what I'm used to, and the price is right, though I would dearly of liked a 19 for the same money. Question , How much would you have to pay in the states for a 19 flat screen with at least 1280 x 1024 resolution and is that the same in reality as a regular CRT monitor of the same resolution ? Who has the experience to say ? because I don't. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 11:40, John Richard Smith wrote: snaip Refresh rates for TFT's are behind the curve unfortunately to some degree... so waiting for an 85hz refresh might be a year or so John. But worth the wait... :) Femmeley Is that so, then what is your current TFT ? John IIRC 75hz @ 1024x768 but I could be wrong... haven't gotten it to work as dual monitor with linux yet so I cannot check right offhand. Femmebot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
John, I am sure Dell sell rebranded monitors anyway (correct me if I am wrong). So you need to try and find out who the original manufacturer is. I've got a Hitachi 17 1280x1024 with a 16ms refresh rate. It is a lot sharper than crt's. Mine cost a little more about £400 but it was the top of the range in the 16ms bracket (6 months ago). You only need that fast a response if your gaming (and I do). The faster the response the less ghosting you get (response is the time it takes for the pixel to turn off and back on again, the system does not refresh in the same sense as a crt). There is no flicker on tft's like crt's so don't worry about that. I think they are a lot better (less power hungry too). Thanks, Tony. -Original Message- From: John Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 5:11 PM To: NEWBIE 1 Subject: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen OK, so this is an offer from a UK supplier and I asked them what resolution is it capable of. They replied, Its native resolution is 1280 x 1024. It'll go higher with interpolation but the image quality suffers. TFTs aren't like CRTs in that respect because the screen is constructed from a grid of pixels of dimensions 1280 x 1024. So this means in effect the best resolution is 1280 x 1024, right ? Well that is what I'm used to, and the price is right, though I would dearly of liked a 19 for the same money. Question , How much would you have to pay in the states for a 19 flat screen with at least 1280 x 1024 resolution and is that the same in reality as a regular CRT monitor of the same resolution ? Who has the experience to say ? because I don't. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
I see, so in regards to TFT's it's not a case then of a beam of electrons scanning the screen top left to botton right so many times a second ( CRT of 85Mhz = 85 refershed scans per second) but a question of how many times a pixel is electronically swithced on and off electronically, that is by a circuit behind that pixel ? So a TFT with a refresh rate of 16ms is being switched on and off, 16/1000of a second each time. I guess as time goes on that time will decrease some as technology improves. Yes, I think Dell merely badge someone elses make don't they, they buy in large orders at a time at best prices and badge them, and sometimes they get a bad deal, and sell the shipment off quickly to a retailer for a knockdown price. That is why I was suspicious in the first place, and came to the list, because I have extremely limited experience with these devices. Seems like I will have to keep my old CRT's a while longer yet. John Tony S. Sykes wrote: John, I am sure Dell sell rebranded monitors anyway (correct me if I am wrong). So you need to try and find out who the original manufacturer is. I've got a Hitachi 17 1280x1024 with a 16ms refresh rate. It is a lot sharper than crt's. Mine cost a little more about £400 but it was the top of the range in the 16ms bracket (6 months ago). You only need that fast a response if your gaming (and I do). The faster the response the less ghosting you get (response is the time it takes for the pixel to turn off and back on again, the system does not refresh in the same sense as a crt). There is no flicker on tft's like crt's so don't worry about that. I think they are a lot better (less power hungry too). Thanks, Tony. -Original Message- From: John Richard Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 5:11 PM To: NEWBIE 1 Subject: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen OK, so this is an offer from a UK supplier and I asked them what resolution is it capable of. They replied, Its native resolution is 1280 x 1024. It'll go higher with interpolation but the image quality suffers. TFTs aren't like CRTs in that respect because the screen is constructed from a grid of pixels of dimensions 1280 x 1024. So this means in effect the best resolution is 1280 x 1024, right ? Well that is what I'm used to, and the price is right, though I would dearly of liked a 19 for the same money. Question , How much would you have to pay in the states for a 19 flat screen with at least 1280 x 1024 resolution and is that the same in reality as a regular CRT monitor of the same resolution ? Who has the experience to say ? because I don't. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 13:07, John Richard Smith wrote: snipple Thanks, You know it's so much more reassuring to hear first hand from people with experience with equipement new to oneself. I think I'm going to wait till the right offer for a 19 1280x1024 at maybe 85Hz? is that about right for the refresh rate, eventually comes along. John Refresh rates for TFT's are behind the curve unfortunately to some degree... so waiting for an 85hz refresh might be a year or so John. But worth the wait... :) Femmeley Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
Heather/Femme wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 13:07, John Richard Smith wrote: snipple Thanks, You know it's so much more reassuring to hear first hand from people with experience with equipement new to oneself. I think I'm going to wait till the right offer for a 19 1280x1024 at maybe 85Hz? is that about right for the refresh rate, eventually comes along. John Refresh rates for TFT's are behind the curve unfortunately to some degree... so waiting for an 85hz refresh might be a year or so John. But worth the wait... :) Femmeley Is that so, then what is your current TFT ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 05:38, Tom Brinkman wrote: FWIW, I wouldn't buy one on specs. You need to see it in a store's showroom. Then get the model number an buy it online after checking for Linux compatibility and performance. The one's you see in a store are runnin Winsux. Same for online reviews. That's why having a Knoppix CD is so handy - boot the showroom box with the Knoppix CD (if you can convince the sales simian that it ain't going to muck up the box); then you can see the resolution(s) and the likes...great way for telling if a box is going to give you problems as well...(or for doing forensic research on a box) (grin) You know that is a very good idea, I've got a knoppix Cd as well , so I might try that . John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
--- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so this is an offer from a UK supplier and I asked them what resolution is it capable of. They replied, Its native resolution is 1280 x 1024. It'll go higher with interpolation but the image quality suffers. TFTs aren't like CRTs in that respect because the screen is constructed from a grid of pixels of dimensions 1280 x 1024. So this means in effect the best resolution is 1280 x 1024, right ? Well that is what I'm used to, and the price is right, though I would dearly of liked a 19 for the same money. Question , How much would you have to pay in the states for a 19 flat screen with at least 1280 x 1024 resolution and is that the same in reality as a regular CRT monitor of the same resolution ? Who has the experience to say ? because I don't. John I am currently looking for a monitor myself and I have been using ebay (www.ebay.com). Found that I just mught be able to get about 2 larger thatn I would have otherwise been able to afford. Also, the reviews on www.zdnet.com can give you a general feel for how a particular manufacter's product is going to behave for you. It can be hard to get a review for the particular model you are interested in, but manufactureers tend to stick to certain styles and assumptions when they make things. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 05:38, Tom Brinkman wrote: FWIW, I wouldn't buy one on specs. You need to see it in a store's showroom. Then get the model number an buy it online after checking for Linux compatibility and performance. The one's you see in a store are runnin Winsux. Same for online reviews. That's why having a Knoppix CD is so handy - boot the showroom box with the Knoppix CD (if you can convince the sales simian that it ain't going to muck up the box); then you can see the resolution(s) and the likes...great way for telling if a box is going to give you problems as well...(or for doing forensic research on a box) (grin) -- Sun Aug 24 11:35:00 EST 2003 11:35:00 up 6 days, 14:01, 3 users, load average: 1.47, 1.43, 1.28 - |____ | illawarra computer services| | /-oo /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Were these parsnips CORRECTLY MARINATED in TACO SAUCE? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 10:45:54 +, John Richard Smith wrote: Alex Weiss wrote: I've got a samsung 191T at 1280 x 1024 it goes for $749 before a $100 rebate I like it alot see it here: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1051384581717skuId=4801753type=product Did you have any problems setting this up under Mandrake ? In particular did the test function work as expected ? I don't recall having any problems at all. The Mandrake Control center didn't have the 191T as an option listed, so i just chose the SyncMaster 800TFT and everything works great. It is a beautiful display. No complaints. - Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
Alex Weiss wrote: On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 10:45:54 +, John Richard Smith wrote: Alex Weiss wrote: I've got a samsung 191T at 1280 x 1024 it goes for $749 before a $100 rebate I like it alot see it here: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1051384581717skuId=4801753type=product Did you have any problems setting this up under Mandrake ? In particular did the test function work as expected ? I don't recall having any problems at all. The Mandrake Control center didn't have the 191T as an option listed, so i just chose the SyncMaster 800TFT and everything works great. It is a beautiful display. No complaints. Thanks, You know it's so much more reassuring to hear first hand from people with experience with equipement new to oneself. I think I'm going to wait till the right offer for a 19 1280x1024 at maybe 85Hz? is that about right for the refresh rate, eventually comes along. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
On Saturday August 23 2003 02:07 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: I think I'm going to wait till the right offer for a 19 1280x1024 at maybe 85Hz? is that about right for the refresh rate, eventually comes along. John That's what I'm doin ... waitin. Don't expect prices to come down, actually they're goin up. I'm waitin for better quality LCD's that don't cost a small fortune. FWIW, I wouldn't buy one on specs. You need to see it in a store's showroom. Then get the model number an buy it online after checking for Linux compatibility and performance. The one's you see in a store are runnin Winsux. Same for online reviews. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 10:10, John Richard Smith wrote: OK, so this is an offer from a UK supplier and I asked them what resolution is it capable of. They replied, Its native resolution is 1280 x 1024. It'll go higher with interpolation but the image quality suffers. TFTs aren't like CRTs in that respect because the screen is constructed from a grid of pixels of dimensions 1280 x 1024. So this means in effect the best resolution is 1280 x 1024, right ? Well that is what I'm used to, and the price is right, though I would dearly of liked a 19 for the same money. Question , How much would you have to pay in the states for a 19 flat screen with at least 1280 x 1024 resolution and is that the same in reality as a regular CRT monitor of the same resolution ? Who has the experience to say ? because I don't. John I have a 17 TFT screen. Its great..and keep in mind a 17 is equivalnet to an 18 CRT. NOt sure why has somethign to do witht eh way the bezel lines up the screen...Just don't expect to game with it. and a 19 in canada is still pricy.. I paid $500 on sale at Xmas last year for this one.. the TFT came in @ about $500 too. So they are still expensive either way...but and LCD is brighter smaller.. so its really your choice there. But native resolution means that it can't go higher w/out looking like shit. Or lower for that matter. Which kinda sucks for some stuff like games certain apps (Gimp for example if you want to run it higher). Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Dell TFT 17Flat Screen
I've got a samsung 191T at 1280 x 1024 it goes for $749 before a $100 rebate I like it alot see it here: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1051384581717skuId=4801753type=product On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:10:54 +, John Richard Smith wrote: OK, so this is an offer from a UK supplier and I asked them what resolution is it capable of. They replied, Its native resolution is 1280 x 1024. It'll go higher with interpolation but the image quality suffers. TFTs aren't like CRTs in that respect because the screen is constructed from a grid of pixels of dimensions 1280 x 1024. So this means in effect the best resolution is 1280 x 1024, right ? Well that is what I'm used to, and the price is right, though I would dearly of liked a 19 for the same money. Question , How much would you have to pay in the states for a 19 flat screen with at least 1280 x 1024 resolution and is that the same in reality as a regular CRT monitor of the same resolution ? Who has the experience to say ? because I don't. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com