Re: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake 7.0 Complete installation
Dear all, Thank you very much for your help. Because of your help I have Linux installed and I can actually login now as user and into the root :). I have a few problems left and I am looking for answers on my own so far. One problem that I have not found an answer for is this: I have 2 printers hooked up to my computer through the Data Switch. I would like to use both of them with Linux if possible. If that is not possible then I would like to configure just one to use - the OkidataOle-400 laser printer. This is the one that I chose during the DrakX installation but it only prints out jumbled up letters when I try to print. Has anyone any suggestions? My other printer is an Epson Stylus Color. Thank you very much for your assistance. I appreciate it very much. Sincerely, Marcia
Re: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake 7.0 Complete installation
On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Marcia Waller wrote: This should be possible without a problem. You need to define both printers. I am not sure if you need to set up each of them to a different spooling directory, I would think not. And then you can direct output to either one of them, through lpr (standard port) or lpr 1 (if memory serves right) to the other one. Paul Dear all, Thank you very much for your help. Because of your help I have Linux installed and I can actually login now as user and into the root :). I have a few problems left and I am looking for answers on my own so far. One problem that I have not found an answer for is this: I have 2 printers hooked up to my computer through the Data Switch. I would like to use both of them with Linux if possible. If that is not possible then I would like to configure just one to use - the OkidataOle-400 laser printer. This is the one that I chose during the DrakX installation but it only prints out jumbled up letters when I try to print. Has anyone any suggestions? My other printer is an Epson Stylus Color. Thank you very much for your assistance. I appreciate it very much. Sincerely, Marcia -- Who cares more for information than for inspiration, prefers elevators to wings. -J.B. Opdyke )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake 7.0 Complete installation
On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Marcia Waller wrote: that it is an option but a technician told me it is not anyway. My Bios setup is C,A,SCSI. Should not that be changed to the floppy first and how do I do that? I am a true newbie and have not done much on the Setup Usually when you have moved the block-cursor to the option you want to change, you can change the value of it by pressing Page UP, Page DOWN, the grey + or the grey - keys. There is, however, no "standard" in boot sequence. I usually have it set to C/A/CD/SCSI (different Bios), because that way I can avoid errors in booting when I left a floppy in the diskette drive. :) screen. Also, may I install by graphical installation or text installation through MS-DOS? I have made the floppy for graphical with rawrite but how do I do it for text installation? I have already done The easiest way to get that done is to boot into MSDos (not inside windows, that is) and make sure that you have access to the CDrom. Then you change to the CDrom (d: or e: or whatever drive letter you have assigned to it). From there you go to the folder \dosutils\autoboot. There you can run "autoboot.bat" which should get thing going for you. I appreciate anyone's input. I do have a Pentium 200 MHZ with 2 IDE hard drives one with 2.5 gigs and the other with over 8 gigs. I have 96 megs of memory and everything else should be compatible from my research. As a reminder my hard drive is already partitioned through partition magic and Linux is not installed yet. Thank you very much for your help.Sincerely, Marcia I hope this helps Paul -- I love your body, but I love what it embodies a thousand times more... )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake 7.0 Complete installation
Larry Marshall wrote: that it is an option but a technician told me it is not anyway. My Bios setup is C,A,SCSI. Should not that be changed to the floppy first and how do I do that? I am a true newbie and have not done much on the Setup My guess is that you've got an Award BIOS. Yes, you can change it. With the cursor over this option, hit the page up/page down keys and you'll see that you can step through several options. If you want to boot from the CD, simply set it before your C drive and stick the Mandrake disk into the drive before rebooting. Don't forget the F10 Save step before leaving the BIOS. next. Linux is not installed yet. May I install Linux another way such as text installation through DOS without uninstalling bootmagic or partition magic? I appreciate your help with this. I have contacted I'm not exactly sure why you want to install through DOS. Especially if you're a newbie, your best bet is to make your CD bootable and insert the Mandrake disk. It'll step you through all the steps of creating not only a Linux installation but it'll set up LILO for you and help you make a boot floppy in case you need one. Cheers --- Larry Dear All, Thank you for your help. All of your suggestions led me to the right solution. Yes, I have an Award Bios and the technician was not correct about not being able to change it. With all of your help I was able to make the necessary changes. I am very grateful for your help and everyone seems to have very good advice. I was actually able to start the installation process and it is almost done except I chose not to do the root password, I did not know what to do about my Iomega zip drive and I have a Data Switch hooked up to 2 printers. One of the printers is connected to my UMAX Astra 610P scanner. One printer is an older EpsonStylus Color and the other is an Okidata laser printer. I am not sure how to get these configured. Also, when I got to the desktop page and it asked for my user name and password of course I supplied it but it claimed they were invalid. May I go back through the graphic installation program again and straighten some of these things out without creating a problem with what I have already installed? I think I have to go ahead with doing the root password, too. Again thank you very much for all of your help. I was just about ready to return my Linux to the store after struggling for 1 and 1/2 weeks. Marcia
Re: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake 7.0 Complete installation
Marcia Waller wrote: Larry Marshall wrote: that it is an option but a technician told me it is not anyway. My Bios setup is C,A,SCSI. Should not that be changed to the floppy first and how do I do that? I am a true newbie and have not done much on the Setup My guess is that you've got an Award BIOS. Yes, you can change it. With the cursor over this option, hit the page up/page down keys and you'll see that you can step through several options. If you want to boot from the CD, simply set it before your C drive and stick the Mandrake disk into the drive before rebooting. Don't forget the F10 Save step before leaving the BIOS. next. Linux is not installed yet. May I install Linux another way such as text installation through DOS without uninstalling bootmagic or partition magic? I appreciate your help with this. I have contacted I'm not exactly sure why you want to install through DOS. Especially if you're a newbie, your best bet is to make your CD bootable and insert the Mandrake disk. It'll step you through all the steps of creating not only a Linux installation but it'll set up LILO for you and help you make a boot floppy in case you need one. Cheers --- Larry Dear All, Thank you for your help. All of your suggestions led me to the right solution. Yes, I have an Award Bios and the technician was not correct about not being able to change it. With all of your help I was able to make the necessary changes. I am very grateful for your help and everyone seems to have very good advice. I was actually able to start the installation process and it is almost done except I chose not to do the root password, I did not know what to do about my Iomega zip drive and I have a Data Switch hooked up to 2 printers. One of the printers is connected to my UMAX Astra 610P scanner. One printer is an older EpsonStylus Color and the other is an Okidata laser printer. I am not sure how to get these configured. Also, when I got to the desktop page and it asked for my user name and password of course I supplied it but it claimed they were invalid. May I go back through the graphic installation program again and straighten some of these things out without creating a problem with what I have already installed? I think I have to go ahead with doing the root password, too. Again thank you very much for all of your help. I was just about ready to return my Linux to the store after struggling for 1 and 1/2 weeks. Marcia Login as USER ! Then type 'su' and enter your root passw. There is a way to do it, but for security raisons don't login as 'root'. If you like it, setup kdm with your KDE Control Center and log-in in X, therefor change in /etc/inittab the 3 to 5 or at boot type 'init 5'. Eric
Re: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake 7.0 Complete installation
On 2 Jul 00, at 15:15, Marcia Waller wrote: passwords. I tried the user idea but that did not work. How can I go back through the installation process and change a few things such as create a root password and set up some other things that I skipped without messing up the install?Do I put the install CD in again and I hope you are using a dual boot system with Windows using LILO. At the LiLO prompt, type linux 1. Now when Linux boots up, at the boot prompt type root. It won't ask you for a password. Then type passwd, and enter your password, enter and retype again. You are done. Reboot, normally. Login as root. Goto KDE DrakConf and manage the user settings. Remove old users and add them anew if things dont work out as a last resort. Sthitaprajna | (at)mailandnews(dot)com
[newbie] Linux-Mandrake 7.0 Complete installation
Dear All, Thank you everyone who gave me wonderful advice. Unfortunately I found out that my CD rom is not bootable. In the Bios setup it shows that it is an option but a technician told me it is not anyway. My Bios setup is C,A,SCSI. Should not that be changed to the floppy first and how do I do that? I am a true newbie and have not done much on the Setup screen. Also, may I install by graphical installation or text installation through MS-DOS? I have made the floppy for graphical with rawrite but how do I do it for text installation? I have already done the partitions with Partition magic and I have Bootmagic installed. Those applications seem to be OK but I cannot get the Linux boot disk or Linux Installation CD to boot the installation screen so that I may install Linux. In other words I have bootmagic and partitionmagic on and the next step was to boot up so that I may install Linux through the CD next. Linux is not installed yet. May I install Linux another way such as text installation through DOS without uninstalling bootmagic or partition magic? I appreciate your help with this. I have contacted Linux-Mandrake support days ago several times but I have received no answer. I have looking through everything that I can find in documentation and other Linux sources but have not found the answer yet. I appreciate anyone's input. I do have a Pentium 200 MHZ with 2 IDE hard drives one with 2.5 gigs and the other with over 8 gigs. I have 96 megs of memory and everything else should be compatible from my research. As a reminder my hard drive is already partitioned through partition magic and Linux is not installed yet. Thank you very much for your help.Sincerely, Marcia
Re: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake 7.0 Complete installation
On 1 Jul 00, at 13:36, Marcia Waller wrote: setup is C,A,SCSI. Should not that be changed to the floppy first and Is your hdd SCSI? Maybe not. Maybe its an IDE. how do I do that? I am a true newbie and have not done much on the Setup At the BIOS option where you have C,a,SCSI written, scroll through the list with the NumKeypad + or the PageUP/DN keys. One of them should work. Change it, so that the order now reads A,C, whatever.Now, your system will boot off the floppy first, if there's a system disk in the fdd. screen. Also, may I install by graphical installation or text installation through MS-DOS? I have made the floppy for graphical with rawrite but how do I do it for text installation? I have already done Grphical installation is flashy, and intuitive. The text install can reduce install times by more than half, and though not very self explanatory, is quite easy. To go the text install way, create a boot disk using rawrite.exe with txt_boot.img. as text installation through DOS without uninstalling bootmagic or partition magic? I appreciate your help with this. I have contacted Since you've already partitioned your hdd, go ahead and install. Just take care that if you have some important data in the Windows partition, it has been backed up. The loadlin based linux install script from DOS will drop you into the install program anyway, so you had better boot from the floppy. I appreciate anyone's input. I do have a Pentium 200 MHZ with 2 IDE hard drives one with 2.5 gigs and the other with over 8 gigs. I have 96 megs That is a great setup. The graphical setup program needs 32 MB RAM work, so it should be easy enough. Go ahead. Install:] Sthitaprajna | (at)mailandnews(dot)com
Re: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake 7.0 Complete installation
Marcia Waller wrote: Dear All, Thank you everyone who gave me wonderful advice. Unfortunately I found out that my CD rom is not bootable. In the Bios setup it shows that it is an option but a technician told me it is not anyway. My Bios setup is C,A,SCSI. Should not that be changed to the floppy first and how do I do that? On the start-up press 'del' key. A screen look-up and point to that line where you can chose your start-up disk. Then press an arrow-key to change to A,C, etc... I am a true newbie and have not done much on the Setup screen. Also, may I install by graphical installation or text installation through MS-DOS? I have made the floppy for graphical with For the text install copy with rawwrite (in dos) the text_install.image to a floppy. Now you can install with the floppy in text mode. Hummm the txt_install.img is found on your CD /dosutils I think. rawrite but how do I do it for text installation? I have already done the partitions with Partition magic and I have Bootmagic installed. Those applications seem to be OK but I cannot get the Linux boot disk or Linux Installation CD to boot the installation screen so that I may install Linux. In other words I have bootmagic and partitionmagic on and the next step was to boot up so that I may install Linux through the CD next. Linux is not installed yet. May I install Linux another way such as text installation through DOS without uninstalling bootmagic or partition magic? I appreciate your help with this. I have contacted Yes, boot etc. is NOT necessary. Withe the text install you can go from FDISK to DISKDRUID. FDISK is to set the partitions and DISKDRUID to set the mount-points. Linux-Mandrake support days ago several times but I have received no answer. I have looking through everything that I can find in documentation and other Linux sources but have not found the answer yet. I appreciate anyone's input. I do have a Pentium 200 MHZ with 2 IDE hard drives one with 2.5 gigs and the other with over 8 gigs. I have 96 megs of memory and everything else should be compatible from my research. As a reminder my hard drive is already partitioned through partition magic and Linux is not installed yet. Thank you very much for your help.Sincerely, Marcia
Re: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake 7.0 Complete installation
CMOS (i.e. the motherboard BIOS, what you are referring to as the setup screen) -- there are many brands, and they all differ. TYPICALLY after you get in, via DEL or F2 or F10 (the three most common ways) or whatever, look at what is displayed for options (perhaps after having to clear a warning message). 98% of the time you will find an option to exit without saving use this if you are unsure about the changes you have made. If there is there will also be an option to exit saving changes. When used, either choice will be confirmed with a box upon exit--it can be confusing, read it carefully before making a choice. Some CMOS do not give you an option to exit without saving; IN THIS CASE BE VERY CAREFUL. How to change your boot order. You are correct that normally it is desirable to seek a floppy first, then the hard drive; for many things including installing Linux it is absolutely necessary to seek the floppy drive first. Highlight the boot order field (usually by TABing down to it). F1 will often give you a list of the selections possible. Changing values will cycle through them. Stop when the one you want is displayed, then exit that page and exit CMOS saving your changes. Read the border messages on the CMOS page--It should say "info = F1" or whatever, and "to change values PgUp PgDn" or + - or whatever. Install through DOS. No, you don't install Linux through DOS, although you can do a text-based install. You can even install Linux ON the DOS filesystem, though that is undesirable for a number of reasons. Once you have made the boot order change so that the motherboard will look at the floppy drive first, the disk that you have already made should work just fine. That floppy disc will boot a small version of Linux and then find your CD ROM (be sure to have your Mandrake disk inserted when your machine is booting up), and it will transfer over to the CD and begin the graphical install directly. Be SURE that you know what partitions are Windows and which are to be for Mandrake (assuming you will be dual-booting) as the installer may need to mark your new partitions itself [meaning it may find no space and want you to delete these partitions to make space, which can be easily done within the installation]. Normally one creates "free" or "unallocated" space and the installer will divide it and set it up with "auto allocate". The only time I have been put into text install was when I booted on the Mandrake floppy and the CD was not in the drive when the floppy Linux system found the drive. It should go right into the graphical install on its own if the CD is in the drive. -Gary- In a message dated 7/1/2000 3:31:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear All, Thank you everyone who gave me wonderful advice. Unfortunately I found out that my CD rom is not bootable. In the Bios setup it shows that it is an option but a technician told me it is not anyway. My Bios setup is C,A,SCSI. Should not that be changed to the floppy first and how do I do that? I am a true newbie and have not done much on the Setup screen. Also, may I install by graphical installation or text installation through MS-DOS? I have made the floppy for graphical with rawrite but how do I do it for text installation? I have already done the partitions with Partition magic and I have Bootmagic installed. Those applications seem to be OK but I cannot get the Linux boot disk or Linux Installation CD to boot the installation screen so that I may install Linux. In other words I have bootmagic and partitionmagic on and the next step was to boot up so that I may install Linux through the CD next. Linux is not installed yet. May I install Linux another way such as text installation through DOS without uninstalling bootmagic or partition magic? I appreciate your help with this. I have contacted Linux-Mandrake support days ago several times but I have received no answer. I have looking through everything that I can find in documentation and other Linux sources but have not found the answer yet. I appreciate anyone's input. I do have a Pentium 200 MHZ with 2 IDE hard drives one with 2.5 gigs and the other with over 8 gigs. I have 96 megs of memory and everything else should be compatible from my research. As a reminder my hard drive is already partitioned through partition magic and Linux is not installed yet. Thank you very much for your help.Sincerely, Marcia
Re: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake 7.0 Complete installation
Marcia, Have you looked at the documentation on your installation CD? I'm sure you have if you've made a boot floppy. Have you tested your BiOS and tried to change the boot order to see if the 'Technician' really knew what he was taalking about? You just might be able to boot from the CD. you can try changing it to CDROM, A,C, or A, CDROM, C orjas most machines are setup - A, C, ... From here the installation should start up and you can specify text install after the installation has initialized. Eunice Thompson
Re: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake 7.0 Complete installation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CMOS (i.e. the motherboard BIOS, what you are referring to as the setup screen) -- there are many brands, and they all differ. TYPICALLY after you get in, via DEL or F2 or F10 (the three most common ways) or whatever, look at what is displayed for options (perhaps after having to clear a warning message). 98% of the time you will find an option to exit without saving use this if you are unsure about the changes you have made. If there is there will also be an option to exit saving changes. When used, either choice will be confirmed with a box upon exit--it can be confusing, read it carefully before making a choice. Some CMOS do not give you an option to exit without saving; IN THIS CASE BE VERY CAREFUL. How to change your boot order. You are correct that normally it is desirable to seek a floppy first, then the hard drive; for many things including installing Linux it is absolutely necessary to seek the floppy drive first. Highlight the boot order field (usually by TABing down to it). F1 will often give you a list of the selections possible. Changing values will cycle through them. Stop when the one you want is displayed, then exit that page and exit CMOS saving your changes. Read the border messages on the CMOS page--It should say "info = F1" or whatever, and "to change values PgUp PgDn" or + - or whatever. Install through DOS. No, you don't install Linux through DOS, although you can do a text-based install. You can even install Linux ON the DOS filesystem, though that is undesirable for a number of reasons. Once you have made the boot order change so that the motherboard will look at the floppy drive first, the disk that you have already made should work just fine. That floppy disc will boot a small version of Linux and then find your CD ROM (be sure to have your Mandrake disk inserted when your machine is booting up), and it will transfer over to the CD and begin the graphical install directly. Be SURE that you know what partitions are Windows and which are to be for Mandrake (assuming you will be dual-booting) as the installer may need to mark your new partitions itself [meaning it may find no space and want you to delete these partitions to make space, which can be easily done within the installation]. Normally one creates "free" or "unallocated" space and the installer will divide it and set it up with "auto allocate". The only time I have been put into text install was when I booted on the Mandrake floppy and the CD was not in the drive when the floppy Linux system found the drive. It should go right into the graphical install on its own if the CD is in the drive. -Gary- In a message dated 7/1/2000 3:31:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear All, Thank you everyone who gave me wonderful advice. Unfortunately I found out that my CD rom is not bootable. In the Bios setup it shows that it is an option but a technician told me it is not anyway. My Bios setup is C,A,SCSI. Should not that be changed to the floppy first and how do I do that? I am a true newbie and have not done much on the Setup screen. Also, may I install by graphical installation or text installation through MS-DOS? I have made the floppy for graphical with rawrite but how do I do it for text installation? I have already done the partitions with Partition magic and I have Bootmagic installed. Those applications seem to be OK but I cannot get the Linux boot disk or Linux Installation CD to boot the installation screen so that I may install Linux. In other words I have bootmagic and partitionmagic on and the next step was to boot up so that I may install Linux through the CD next. Linux is not installed yet. May I install Linux another way such as text installation through DOS without uninstalling bootmagic or partition magic? I appreciate your help with this. I have contacted Linux-Mandrake support days ago several times but I have received no answer. I have looking through everything that I can find in documentation and other Linux sources but have not found the answer yet. I appreciate anyone's input. I do have a Pentium 200 MHZ with 2 IDE hard drives one with 2.5 gigs and the other with over 8 gigs. I have 96 megs of memory and everything else should be compatible from my research. As a reminder my hard drive is already partitioned through partition magic and Linux is not installed yet. Thank you very much for your help.Sincerely, Marcia Thank you for your advice. I was able to get into the Bios and it had the save exit option or exiting without saving. The F1 does give me the list of boot sequences but I have not been able to scroll through the list. How do you change values to cycle through the list? I have used the arrows and nothing happens. There is a place that shows what F1 is for and other options. The one for modify is PUPD and it has/+/-. Would
Re: [newbie] Linux-Mandrake 7.0 Complete installation
Be SURE you have the correct field highlighted, move to it as necessary, usually TAB. If F1 shows you the correct set of choices, you know what is possible and the sequence you will see when you actually change values. Clear this help info, try F1 key again, then you will find that the PgUp PgDn keys (or whatever) will move the sequence one step at a time [often PgUp moves down PgDn increases the value]. Set the boot sequence to A:, (CDROM if avail), C:, and (SCSI doesn't matter if you don't have this type of drive, OK to leave it last if you don't have an option that doesn't include it). When the value for "Boot Sequence" is the way you want it back out of the CMOS page, usually ESC and "Exit Saving" the new values. The dialogue box will ask if you actually want to write the new values to the CMOS, with a "N" entered as default. Enter "Y" that you actually want to save, and the CMOS will begin the POST check from scratch again, this time seeking A:. If your Mandrake floppy is in the floppy drive and the CD is in the CD drive it should put you directly into the install. The white on black messages you will first see are a normal part of Linux booting, and will let you know whats going on. Some may fly by, but the CD ROM takes a while and things will seem to stall for 10 seconds or so. Good Luck! Keep us posted. -Gary- In a message dated 7/1/2000 7:57:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you for your advice. I was able to get into the Bios and it had the save exit option or exiting without saving. The F1 does give me the list of boot sequences but I have not been able to scroll through the list. How do you change values to cycle through the list? I have used the arrows and nothing happens. There is a place that shows what F1 is for and other options. The one for modify is PUPD and it has/+/-. Would there be a way to install with my setup as is: C,A,SCSI? I suspect that there has to be a way for me to make the changes of the boot sequence but there is something I am not doing correctly obviously. Thank you very much for your help. I will keep working on this. Thank you. Marcia