[newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
I recently bought some new hardware intended to take me into the next few years and I am having problems getting Mandrake installed. I have a Soyo KT400 Dragon Ultra Platinum MB with 1024 megs ram, Nvidia GE4 Ti4600 graphics card. I had to patch the installation kernel in order to install given the current framebuffer issues with high ram video cards and ~1024 ram machines. I did get Linux installed and running except for X. I am now having problems trying to start X with the Nvidia graphics cards and drivers that come with Mandrake boxed set. When I try to start X, I get a blank display with nothing coming up. I don't think that the machine is locked up, I can ssh into it from another machine, but X just does not do anything and the display is completely blank. I have attached my Xfree log and config file here to help with troubleshooting. Does anyone have any suggestions that might help me get X working? TIA. XFree86.zip Description: Zip compressed data Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
The first thing to do is. Download the most recent X drivers from the nvidia site. And follow the appropriate instructions for installing the driver into the kernel. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently bought some new hardware intended to take me into the next few years and I am having problems getting Mandrake installed. I have a Soyo KT400 Dragon Ultra Platinum MB with 1024 megs ram, Nvidia GE4 Ti4600 graphics card. I had to patch the installation kernel in order to install given the current framebuffer issues with high ram video cards and ~1024 ram machines. I did get Linux installed and running except for X. I am now having problems trying to start X with the Nvidia graphics cards and drivers that come with Mandrake boxed set. When I try to start X, I get a blank display with nothing coming up. I don't think that the machine is locked up, I can ssh into it from another machine, but X just does not do anything and the display is completely blank. I have attached my Xfree log and config file here to help with troubleshooting. Does anyone have any suggestions that might help me get X working? TIA. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Kevin J Citron Sr. Object Imagineer Optimized Objects, Inc. EL Paso, Texas 79930 (915) 565-5777/566-2403
Re: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
I have previously tried the most recent drivers. Makes absolutely no difference which is why I stuck with the Mandrake supplied drivers this time around. I wanted to make sure that there was no issue with using something that hadn't been proven to work and I am pretty sure that the stock drivers supplied by Mandrake are working for most others or there would be bug reports about them and I see no bug reports on Mandrakes sites about it. Thanks for the suggestion though. Any others? Anybody see something that I am missing in the log file? The first thing to do is. Download the most recent X drivers from the nvidia site. And follow the appropriate instructions for installing the driver into the kernel. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently bought some new hardware intended to take me into the next few years and I am having problems getting Mandrake installed. I have a Soyo KT400 Dragon Ultra Platinum MB with 1024 megs ram, Nvidia GE4 Ti4600 graphics card. I had to patch the installation kernel in order to install given the current framebuffer issues with high ram video cards and ~1024 ram machines. I did get Linux installed and running except for X. I am now having problems trying to start X with the Nvidia graphics cards and drivers that come with Mandrake boxed set. When I try to start X, I get a blank display with nothing coming up. I don't think that the machine is locked up, I can ssh into it from another machine, but X just does not do anything and the display is completely blank. I have attached my Xfree log and config file here to help with troubleshooting. Does anyone have any suggestions that might help me get X working? TIA. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Kevin J Citron Sr. Object Imagineer Optimized Objects, Inc. EL Paso, Texas 79930 (915) 565-5777/566-2403 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 12:56 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently bought some new hardware intended to take me into the next few years and I am having problems getting Mandrake installed. I have a Soyo KT400 Dragon Ultra Platinum MB with 1024 megs ram, Nvidia GE4 Ti4600 graphics card. I had to patch the installation kernel in order to install given the current framebuffer issues with high ram video cards and ~1024 ram machines. I did get Linux installed and running except for X. I am now having problems trying to start X with the Nvidia graphics cards and drivers that come with Mandrake boxed set. When I try to start X, I get a blank display with nothing coming up. I don't think that the machine is locked up, I can ssh into it from another machine, but X just does not do anything and the display is completely blank. I have attached my Xfree log and config file here to help with troubleshooting. Does anyone have any suggestions that might help me get X working? TIA. Well apart from a warning about not being able to read your monitors capabilities from the hardware which could lead to not having many screen resolutions available your log shows that it all came up and ought to be working. Is this a twin head card? could the display be on the other port? To get X working you could use the Opensource nv driver. Just edit the relevant parts of your XF86Config-4 like this :- Section Module Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension Load v4l # Video for Linux Load extmod Load type1 Load freetype Load glx EndSection Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName NVidia BoardName NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic) Driver nv Option DPMS EndSection In fact I am wondering if some of those options you have in your current file might be the cause of your problem? You might like to try with this : Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName NVidia BoardName NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic) Driver nvidia Option DPMS EndSection HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
Derek Jennings wrote: Well apart from a warning about not being able to read your monitors capabilities from the hardware which could lead to not having many screen resolutions available your log shows that it all came up and ought to be working. Is this a twin head card? could the display be on the other port? To get X working you could use the Opensource nv driver. Just edit the relevant parts of your XF86Config-4 like this :- Section Module Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension Load v4l # Video for Linux Load extmod Load type1 Load freetype Load glx EndSection Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName NVidia BoardName NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic) Driver nv Option DPMS EndSection In fact I am wondering if some of those options you have in your current file might be the cause of your problem? You might like to try with this : Section Device Identifier device1 VendorName NVidia BoardName NVIDIA GeForce4 (generic) Driver nvidia Option DPMS EndSection Previously, during installation, I selected and specified Opensource nv driver as well as opensource vesa driver with no glx or other additions, in each case the display fails to start x, and I actually end up with a completely garbled screen with weird ascii characters on it and a completely locked machine. Mandrake does detect the Nvidia board and recommends the Geforce4 nvidia driver and the machine doesn't get locked up using it so that seems to be working better than opensource nv or vesa drivers. I might try it again when I get back home anyway, just to be sure but I don't imagine that it will work better now, with a kernel patched for nvidia, than before when I chose those options during the original installation. The other options are either stock additions from the Mandrake install or have been added due to the framebuffer issues. For instance, the Nvagp option is to prevent agp from being used since there have been some reported problems with agpgart on kernels that have not been specifically patched for it. I don't know whether mine has been patched for it or not but just turned it completely off in case it wasn't. The ConnectedMonitor and IgnoreDisplayDevices options are there to prevent issues with long startup times as the driver tries to auto detect which display is connected to the card. I have three connections on the card, a DVI port for LCD, a TV out and CRT analog connection. I am using the CRT analog connection with standard 15 pin connector, so I disable DVI and TV in the options and specify that I am using the CRT option. I have found one small possible issue, the Mandrake specification for viewsonic A90 notes vertical of 50-180 Hz and the actual specification of the A90f (mine) is 50-150 Hz. I am going to alter that and try it again tonight but given that I tried lower resolutions that should have been under 150 Hz, I suspect that won't make much of a difference. Also, display resolutions are being autodetected on the CRT and that should be correct, even if the config top ranges are out of whack. Also, previously, I have specified unsupported ranges on the monitor and in each case I get a display error from the monitor itself telling me that the mode is unsupported by the monitor. I don't see such a message now so I suspect that this is not the issue. Anyway, I will try your suggestions just to be sure. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:17:13 -0400 (GMT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: big huge snipperama Please set your line wrap at 72 characters or less, many people's mail clients cannot handle such huge paragraphs. In your mail apps prefs, there should be something to set this. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + People say Linux is ugly. How does that make you feel? + Torvalds: They'll be the first against the wall when the revolution + comes. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
Joe Hill wrote: Please set your line wrap at 72 characters or less, many people's mail clients cannot handle such huge paragraphs. In your mail apps prefs, there should be something to set this. Sorry, there is not. I am using a webmail client currently since my Mandrake installation is down while I try to figure out the problem with X. According to the Nvidia forums, I am not the only person with this problem but that is of little comfort. I will try to put in CR's in future messages to force the wrap to some- thing more normal. How is this? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 2:23 pm, JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:17:13 -0400 (GMT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: big huge snipperama Please set your line wrap at 72 characters or less, many people's mail clients cannot handle such huge paragraphs. In your mail apps prefs, there should be something to set this. I did wonder which email client bjp used - it wasn't obvious from the headers. In kmail it scaled if you shrank the windows. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
On Tuesday 17 Jun 2003 5:26 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Hill wrote: Please set your line wrap at 72 characters or less, many people's mail clients cannot handle such huge paragraphs. In your mail apps prefs, there should be something to set this. Sorry, there is not. I am using a webmail client currently since my Mandrake installation is down while I try to figure out the problem with X. According to the Nvidia forums, I am not the only person with this problem but that is of little comfort. I will try to put in CR's in future messages to force the wrap to some- thing more normal. How is this? Very considerate Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
Tom Brinkman wrote: Short. Suggestion tho, if you have an email composer others object to, make a sig with the last character in it at 72 chars. Then you've got a guide to use CR's while typing. I appreciate the tip. I would rather get my MDK working and go back to a real email client like Kmail grin. I have two leads that I will try tonight, hopefully, at least one of them will work. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:26:33 -0400 (GMT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Sorry, there is not. I am using a webmail client currently since my Mandrake installation is down while I try to figure out the problem with X. According to the Nvidia forums, I am not the only person with this problem but that is of little comfort. I will try to put in CR's in future messages to force the wrap to some- thing more normal. How is this? Excellent! Thanks very much. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + People say Linux is ugly. How does that make you feel? + Torvalds: They'll be the first against the wall when the revolution + comes. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
You would either need to use the Enterprise kernel, or limit the mem usage to I believe less than 800MB. This from the OT list and Tom Brinkman, the absolute authority on these issues around here: I believe your video problems are E-kernel related. If you've got a lot of ram use mem=860M with the regular kernel. Your memory performance will actually be better than usin the E-kernel and tryin to use all of it. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas hm ok where do iput that command? How-to pls. :D Put mem=860M in your lilo append line for the regular kernel, run lilo, reboot an choose the regular kernel. Update: Well, I did manage to install with a patched kernel that someone else patched for the vesa framebuffer video problem, that is the Nvidia graphics card + 1gig of memory error. However, even when I get mandrake installed, I still get major errors with the video. It appears that the nvidia graphics drivers demand a patched kernel and someone the kernel patch is not compatible with the other stuff that is required to install it. When starting x, I get screen corruption and a lock of Linux. The lack of Highpoint RAID controller support is not desirable but something that I could live with but I also have issues with the onboard LAN. I can solve that by using a Dlink LAN card but the graphics problems are a show stopper. I replaced the geforce 4 with a geforce 2 with 32 meg of memory and was able to install normally. Still get the enterprise kernel but also the regular kernel as well. I can boot into either one with regular kernel limiting the memory used. However the problems with x exist with both regular and enterprise kernels and I can't figure out how to get around those. Anyone with any suggestions would be appreciated. As it is, as much as I HATE to do it, I am going to try to download Redhat ISO's in the hopes that they support higher end hardware a little better. I don't know what else to do after 2 days of trying to get Mandrake to work. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
At 07:41 AM 6/16/2003 -0400, you wrote: SNIP Anyone with any suggestions would be appreciated. As it is, as much as I HATE to do it, I am going to try to download Redhat ISO's in the hopes that they support higher end hardware a little better. I don't know what else to do after 2 days of trying to get Mandrake to work. I have time this week (Finally! after a week of Leather Gay Pride events..) so I will mess with my own setup Post here to let you know... i haven't followed this thread at all so i don't know if what i can/will do will help. I have an ATI card, a gig of RAM...so we are sorta in the same boat I gather...cept for video. I'll keep you posted. :) - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:01:56 -0600 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: after a week of Leather Gay Pride events Those are always a heap of fun. We have a pretty big one in Toronto every year. Ever been? -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + People say Linux is ugly. How does that make you feel? + Torvalds: They'll be the first against the wall when the revolution + comes. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
At 07:42 PM 6/16/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:01:56 -0600 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: after a week of Leather Gay Pride events Those are always a heap of fun. We have a pretty big one in Toronto every year. Ever been? -- Unfortunately in all the years I lived there, no. :( Sigh - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
I just bought a new system and am trying to install Mandrake 9.1 on it. Soyo KT400 Dragon Platinum MB with 1 Gig of RAM, Nvidia GE4 Ti4600 graphics card. When I try to boot the installation CD or DVD, I get a hard lock with a blank screen and Scroll and Caps Lock flashing. I read on the support board that there are issues with machines with more than 1 gig of RAM and possibly Nvidia graphics cards, so I specified text install. Now I get a kernel panic with a message NULL dereference at 000. Anyone have any ideas how I might be able to solve this problem to get the system installed. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 12:04:48 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I read on the support board that there are issues with machines with more than 1 gig of RAM and possibly Nvidia graphics cards, so I specified text install. You would either need to use the Enterprise kernel, or limit the mem usage to I believe less than 800MB. This from the OT list and Tom Brinkman, the absolute authority on these issues around here: I believe your video problems are E-kernel related. If you've got a lot of ram use mem=860M with the regular kernel. Your memory performance will actually be better than usin the E-kernel and tryin to use all of it. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas hm ok where do iput that command? How-to pls. :D Put mem=860M in your lilo append line for the regular kernel, run lilo, reboot an choose the regular kernel. We need like a Bat Signal but for Tom Brinkman! H, what would that look like? -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net 12:52:07 up 13:31, 2 users, load average: 0.03, 0.01, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.1 Installation problems
On Sunday 15 June 2003 12:04 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just bought a new system and am trying to install Mandrake 9.1 on it. Soyo KT400 Dragon Platinum MB with 1 Gig of RAM, Nvidia GE4 Ti4600 graphics card. When I try to boot the installation CD or DVD, I get a hard lock with a blank screen and Scroll and Caps Lock flashing. I read on the support board that there are issues with machines with more than 1 gig of RAM and possibly Nvidia graphics cards, so I specified text install. Now I get a kernel panic with a message NULL dereference at 000. Anyone have any ideas how I might be able to solve this problem to get the system installed. I have a Dragon Ultra Black that is basically the same board. I found I had to boot the installer with noapic and acpi=off boot parameters to get it to run through. At splash screen, hit F1 to enter additional parameters and try typing linux noapic acpi=off If that does not work, you can try one of the alternate kernels listed. Once installed, I have found this board runs very well. The only thing that does not work is the Highpoint RAID controller, which works fine as a standard IDE controller. -- Greg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
