Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
Just thought this may give you some info, you may know already, when LiLo boots up all files are set to READ ONLY until boot is completed. This may be what you are seeing flash on the screen. I have installed Linux/ManDrake 7.0 Complete about 12 times, trying out different installs to see which was good for me. Have not had any problems except where I have made errors in my choices. I have a locally put together CPU AMD K6 II 350meg 32m RAM 3D Sound/w modem video on the MOBO. My modem is a Barfmodem, have not been on the NET with Linux yet. Have not given up. You may have a problem with some part of your H/W check it out very carefully then try it again. Just for your info I have been working on a Packard 'Barf' Bell that has had a H/D problem, Conner CFA850A (850m) H/D, died the other day and am attempting to recover the software if possible. I have a friend that works on CPU's for living that has 13 1.2 gig Conner H/D's that have died on peoples CPU's he has repaired, I hope your H/D is NOT a Conner. My $3.01 worth, don I thought I knew that I knew what I thought But now I know that what I thought I knew Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew. On Sun, 14 May 2000 09:32:51 -0700 X Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks JD. I haven't quite decided what to do yet. I feel kind of like a guy who's house just got wiped out by a tornado, and still picking through the debris trying to figure out what the hell happened. What you said about not being able to mount in read/write mode reminds me of something I saw flash on the screen early in the boot process. I was paying extra close attention to everything at bootup after this happened, and so I'm not sure if it was new or not, but I saw something about read-only. It was only on the screen for like a split second. I'll try it again and see if I can catch anything more. At 03:25 PM 05/14/2000 +, you wrote: i'm sorry you have to go. i had a similar problem, but my harddrive wouldn't remount in read/write mode. so i basically had a harddirive that i could only read off of. the only answer i could get where things like edit the fstab file, etc. but i couldn't cause it was a read only hd. finally after a week of spending a least 3 hours a day, i gave up and reinstalled. unfortunatly, that was about a month ago, and this weekend was the first chance i've had to play around and set up mandrake. if you decide that mandrake is worth one more try, great. but if you decide not, we're sorry to lose ya. good luck jd From: X Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] No more Mandrake. Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 01:39:54 -0700 I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So I went to use the Kill tool on it, but I couldn't because all the desktop icons had disappeared, leaving only black outlines of where they would normally be. I still wasn't overly concerned because this happens from time to time anyway. I tried to shutdown, but the shutdown message just came up and froze, along with everything else except the mouse. So I manually rebooted. The "not cleanly unmounted" errors came up, as they have been every time for the past couple months - it usually seems to just delay the boot process slightly. But then something different popped up: "/dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced. /dev/hda5: inode 43199 has illegal block(s)" and then: "/dev/hda5: Unexpected Inconsistency: run fsck manually (without -a or -p options)". Then in red, it says "[FAILED]", followed by: "An error occurred during the file system check dropping you to a shell. The system will reboot when you leave the shell. Give root password for maintenance or ctrl-D for normal startup". So I entered the root password, and it said, "BASH: ID: command not found". It repeated that bash message for about 5 or 6 lines. I tried the fsck, and then it said: "Parallelizing fsck version 1.14...". I manually rebooted again, got the same results. Another time I tried the ctrl-D but it just rebooted back into the same thing. When it rebooted I saw something about "..cannot unlink..." and "..var/unlock file.." but it scrolled too fast to make out the whole message. It took a lot of time and effort over several months to get things to finally work right, and I still had work left to do. I had previously experimented with Slackware, which took forever just to get the basics setup, but
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
These are problems that I've had on in the development kernels, not the 2.2 series.
Loosing the inturupt means you have a timming problem. ARE YOU OVER-CLOCKING. Some
MB's and Hard-drives can get the timmng right some can't. What type of hardware are
you running. If Slackware also caused problems with your harddrive you may just have
buggy hardware.I noticed that your dealing with hda5 is this your / partition? Is
your /boot below the 1024 cylinder.
Also if you do "one last re-install" don't select specific packages. Let Xdrake
install what it wants. But choose the "Developer" install or you'll have to add a
bunch of -devel packages later to compile anything.
John
-- Original Message --
From: Romanator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:49:50 -0400
Hi folks,
My install keeps booting to text install and then does not recognize my
partition table.
Sample message:
hdb: drive not ready for command
hdb: status error: status = 0x00 {}
unable to read partition table
hdd:hdd: lost interrupt
hdd: lost interrupt
The line: 'hdd: lost interrupt' keeps repeating and repeating until I have to
do a CNTRL+ALT+DELETE.
How do you get into graphical mode? I have the Linux Mandrake 7.0 Power Pack.
Roman
Registered User
Eduardo Arauz wrote:
i haved the same problem a month ago.. try first to run :
fsck/dev/hda5.. once you ve got into root.. and see if that solve the
problem... i am about to quit mandrake too but because other problems
finally i reinstalled all ... and upgraded my PC but it still doesnt work
100% i cant mount either a cd rom or a diskette )
-Original Message-
From: X Drake [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 3:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] No more Mandrake.
I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything
is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with
Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the
browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So
I went to use the Kill tool on it, but I couldn't because all the desktop
icons had disappeared, leaving only black outlines of where they would
normally be. I still wasn't overly concerned because this happens from time
to time anyway. I tried to shutdown, but the shutdown message just came up
and froze, along with everything else except the mouse. So I manually
rebooted. The "not cleanly unmounted" errors came up, as they have been
every time for the past couple months - it usually seems to just delay the
boot process slightly. But then something different popped up:
"/dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced. /dev/hda5:
inode 43199 has illegal block(s)" and then:
"/dev/hda5: Unexpected Inconsistency: run fsck manually (without -a or -p
options)". Then in red, it says "[FAILED]", followed by: "An error occurred
during the file system check dropping you to a shell. The system will
reboot when you leave the shell. Give root password for maintenance or
ctrl-D for normal startup". So I entered the root password, and it said,
"BASH: ID: command not found". It repeated that bash message for about 5 or
6 lines. I tried the fsck, and then it said: "Parallelizing fsck version
1.14...".
I manually rebooted again, got the same results. Another time I tried the
ctrl-D but it just rebooted back into the same thing. When it rebooted I
saw something about "..cannot unlink..." and "..var/unlock file.." but it
scrolled too fast to make out the whole message.
It took a lot of time and effort over several months to get things to
finally work right, and I still had work left to do. I had previously
experimented with Slackware, which took forever just to get the basics
setup, but then a couple of unexpected severe crashes requiring
reinstallation finally sent me back out in search of something better.
Mandrake seemed to be it, but this latest disaster has me pretty bummed
with the whole thing. It seems like, although Linux may not crash everytime
you turn around, the way Windows does, eventually it is going to crash, and
crash HARD, and not necessarily for any obvious good reason. It's after 1
AM and I've been struggling with this for several hours, so maybe I'll feel
different tomorrow and do another reinstall if I have to. But right now I'm
thinking maybe I might just look for some other OS, maybe FreeBSD or
something. Don't get me wrong - Mandrake has been great, and it's
definitely the best distribution of the 3 I've tried, but it just seems
like there's some inherent unstableness of a different kind lurking in
Linux in general. Maybe I've just been having a string of bad luck. I may
still be a 'newbie' but this one came completely ou
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So I went to use the Kill tool on it, but I couldn't because all the desktop icons had disappeared, leaving only black outlines of where they would normally be. I still wasn't overly concerned because this happens from time to time anyway. I tried to shutdown, but the shutdown message just came up and froze, along with everything else except the mouse. So I manually rebooted. The "not cleanly unmounted" errors came up, as they have been every time for the past couple months - it usually seems to just delay the I sympathize with you, i just recently re-installed LM, after hosing up the system so bad , fschk could not recover. First, what version of LM are you using. LM 6.0 had a problem that caused it not to unmount file systems properly during shutdown. Second, if you are getting 'not cleanly unmounted' errors on later versions, than you are not shutting down correctly, Linux does not like resets any more that Windows, and it is likely to cause greater problems. The best solution is insure that you have telnet capability in to your machine, when you get a lockup, telnet into your machine from another machine and kill the offending processes, kill the login shell if you have to. I understand this solution is not practical if your are running a home system and using the only phone line to connect to the Internet from the locked-up machine. Maybe the gurus on this list can come up with a useable solution in those circumstances. Joseph H. Perry Oracle DBA Columbus State University 4225 University Ave Columbus, GA 31907-5645 (706) 568-2063 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
If you haven't already done so, edit your /etc/lilo.conf to mount your root partition as read-only (If I remember correctly there's an option for this at installation time), then run lilo to write the stuff to the MBR. For help on this, you can type 'man lilo.conf' at the console. If you can't boot into Linux at all now, you may need a boot disc. The Mandrake CD can be used as a boot disc by typing 'boot root-/dev/hda1' (without the quotes) at the LILO boot prompt. Change the 'hda1' part to suit your setup (where your boot partition is, normally the same as your root direcory). fscks will then re-mount your partition as read-write during boot-up. I had a very similar problem and this did the trick. BTW, have you checked to see if your hardware is fully linux-compatible (this also means compatibility with XFree86, etc.)? As Paul has stated below, another likely problem is a hard drive failure. This is rare, and often caused by defects in manufacturing. I've had that problem once, and I had to replace my HDD in the end. I think that one reason why Linux and Unix are so much stabler than M$ Windos is that they are less tolerant of faulty hardware. Also, their diagnostic programmes are far more sophisticated than their Windoze equivalents (e.g. fsck vs ScanDisk) and are far more likely to pick up errors. On Sun, 14 May 2000, Paul wrote: On Sun, 14 May 2000, X Drake wrote: I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So Did you have no trouble to get back into Windows? This sounds so strange... If you did not have to reformat all kinds of things, then I am puzzled. If you did have to reformat your disk, then I could imagine that the harddisk itself has a problem. I have had that once too, a 3 year old disk just crapped out on me with no reason. Reformat went well, but a month later it was down again. I threw it away. Paul )0(---)0( Silence. Do you remember how that sounds? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -- _ Sridhar Dhanapalan "Capitalism is the exploitation of man by man. Communism is the reverse." _
RE: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
i haved the same problem a month ago.. try first to run : fsck/dev/hda5.. once you ve got into root.. and see if that solve the problem... i am about to quit mandrake too but because other problems finally i reinstalled all ... and upgraded my PC but it still doesnt work 100% i cant mount either a cd rom or a diskette ) -Original Message- From: X Drake [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 3:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] No more Mandrake. I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So I went to use the Kill tool on it, but I couldn't because all the desktop icons had disappeared, leaving only black outlines of where they would normally be. I still wasn't overly concerned because this happens from time to time anyway. I tried to shutdown, but the shutdown message just came up and froze, along with everything else except the mouse. So I manually rebooted. The "not cleanly unmounted" errors came up, as they have been every time for the past couple months - it usually seems to just delay the boot process slightly. But then something different popped up: "/dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced. /dev/hda5: inode 43199 has illegal block(s)" and then: "/dev/hda5: Unexpected Inconsistency: run fsck manually (without -a or -p options)". Then in red, it says "[FAILED]", followed by: "An error occurred during the file system check dropping you to a shell. The system will reboot when you leave the shell. Give root password for maintenance or ctrl-D for normal startup". So I entered the root password, and it said, "BASH: ID: command not found". It repeated that bash message for about 5 or 6 lines. I tried the fsck, and then it said: "Parallelizing fsck version 1.14...". I manually rebooted again, got the same results. Another time I tried the ctrl-D but it just rebooted back into the same thing. When it rebooted I saw something about "..cannot unlink..." and "..var/unlock file.." but it scrolled too fast to make out the whole message. It took a lot of time and effort over several months to get things to finally work right, and I still had work left to do. I had previously experimented with Slackware, which took forever just to get the basics setup, but then a couple of unexpected severe crashes requiring reinstallation finally sent me back out in search of something better. Mandrake seemed to be it, but this latest disaster has me pretty bummed with the whole thing. It seems like, although Linux may not crash everytime you turn around, the way Windows does, eventually it is going to crash, and crash HARD, and not necessarily for any obvious good reason. It's after 1 AM and I've been struggling with this for several hours, so maybe I'll feel different tomorrow and do another reinstall if I have to. But right now I'm thinking maybe I might just look for some other OS, maybe FreeBSD or something. Don't get me wrong - Mandrake has been great, and it's definitely the best distribution of the 3 I've tried, but it just seems like there's some inherent unstableness of a different kind lurking in Linux in general. Maybe I've just been having a string of bad luck. I may still be a 'newbie' but this one came completely out of left field. The worst part of it - I was just about ready to start spending most of my time in Linux. I had just downloaded (not installed) a program that could do what one of my primary windows programs does, and I had just downloaded VMware (also not installed yet). But now here I am back in Windows full time it looks like. I can almost hear Bill laughing :-(
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
control + alt + backspace has always worked for me and I haven't lost a thing
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
On Sun, 14 May 2000, X Drake wrote: Yeah Windows seemed to boot and run as usual, but I'll run Scandisk. One thing I just thought of - I just installed an anti-virus program in Windows earlier in the day. I didn't think it could have any affect on the Linux partition because Windows ignores it. But now I wonder, considering this happened right after that. I sure hope the HD is ok because it's only about a year old! Running scandisk won't help the Linux partition, because this is, as you already said, not recognized by Windows. Also an anti-windows- eh virus program has no effect on Linux. Very strange... Wish I could help you further. Paul )0(---)0( Silence. Do you remember how that sounds? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
Hi folks,
My install keeps booting to text install and then does not recognize my
partition table.
Sample message:
hdb: drive not ready for command
hdb: status error: status = 0x00 {}
unable to read partition table
hdd:hdd: lost interrupt
hdd: lost interrupt
The line: 'hdd: lost interrupt' keeps repeating and repeating until I have to
do a CNTRL+ALT+DELETE.
How do you get into graphical mode? I have the Linux Mandrake 7.0 Power Pack.
Roman
Registered User
Eduardo Arauz wrote:
i haved the same problem a month ago.. try first to run :
fsck/dev/hda5.. once you ve got into root.. and see if that solve the
problem... i am about to quit mandrake too but because other problems
finally i reinstalled all ... and upgraded my PC but it still doesnt work
100% i cant mount either a cd rom or a diskette )
-Original Message-
From: X Drake [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 3:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] No more Mandrake.
I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything
is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with
Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the
browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So
I went to use the Kill tool on it, but I couldn't because all the desktop
icons had disappeared, leaving only black outlines of where they would
normally be. I still wasn't overly concerned because this happens from time
to time anyway. I tried to shutdown, but the shutdown message just came up
and froze, along with everything else except the mouse. So I manually
rebooted. The "not cleanly unmounted" errors came up, as they have been
every time for the past couple months - it usually seems to just delay the
boot process slightly. But then something different popped up:
"/dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced. /dev/hda5:
inode 43199 has illegal block(s)" and then:
"/dev/hda5: Unexpected Inconsistency: run fsck manually (without -a or -p
options)". Then in red, it says "[FAILED]", followed by: "An error occurred
during the file system check dropping you to a shell. The system will
reboot when you leave the shell. Give root password for maintenance or
ctrl-D for normal startup". So I entered the root password, and it said,
"BASH: ID: command not found". It repeated that bash message for about 5 or
6 lines. I tried the fsck, and then it said: "Parallelizing fsck version
1.14...".
I manually rebooted again, got the same results. Another time I tried the
ctrl-D but it just rebooted back into the same thing. When it rebooted I
saw something about "..cannot unlink..." and "..var/unlock file.." but it
scrolled too fast to make out the whole message.
It took a lot of time and effort over several months to get things to
finally work right, and I still had work left to do. I had previously
experimented with Slackware, which took forever just to get the basics
setup, but then a couple of unexpected severe crashes requiring
reinstallation finally sent me back out in search of something better.
Mandrake seemed to be it, but this latest disaster has me pretty bummed
with the whole thing. It seems like, although Linux may not crash everytime
you turn around, the way Windows does, eventually it is going to crash, and
crash HARD, and not necessarily for any obvious good reason. It's after 1
AM and I've been struggling with this for several hours, so maybe I'll feel
different tomorrow and do another reinstall if I have to. But right now I'm
thinking maybe I might just look for some other OS, maybe FreeBSD or
something. Don't get me wrong - Mandrake has been great, and it's
definitely the best distribution of the 3 I've tried, but it just seems
like there's some inherent unstableness of a different kind lurking in
Linux in general. Maybe I've just been having a string of bad luck. I may
still be a 'newbie' but this one came completely out of left field. The
worst part of it - I was just about ready to start spending most of my time
in Linux. I had just downloaded (not installed) a program that could do
what one of my primary windows programs does, and I had just downloaded
VMware (also not installed yet). But now here I am back in Windows full
time it looks like. I can almost hear Bill laughing :-(
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
Romanas I believe I said before, run partinfo.exe.
I believe you have errors in your partition table that can be
identified by partinfo.exe and fixed with ptedit.exe (both are
part of PM).
Concerning the lost interrupt errors, they are usually
associated with hard drives and cdroms. The best fix for that
is to download the i486 version of mandrake 7.0. If you wish,
it's available on CD at:
http://www.lland.com
It seems that some mass storage devices are out-of-spec timing
wise and this problem with the hardware has shown up because
the i586 optimizations that Mandrake is compiled with push the
limits of the out-of-spec timing parameters of some devices.
The i486 optimizations do not push the hardware as hard in
this area.
Alan
P.S. By the way, buying a MacMillan boxed set will not help,
as all disc 1's in all boxed distros of Mandrake 7.0 and all
GPL CD's (except for the 1486 version) are exactly the same.
Romanator wrote:
Hi folks,
My install keeps booting to text install and then does not recognize my
partition table.
Sample message:
hdb: drive not ready for command
hdb: status error: status = 0x00 {}
unable to read partition table
hdd:hdd: lost interrupt
hdd: lost interrupt
The line: 'hdd: lost interrupt' keeps repeating and repeating until I have to
do a CNTRL+ALT+DELETE.
How do you get into graphical mode? I have the Linux Mandrake 7.0 Power Pack.
Roman
Registered User
Eduardo Arauz wrote:
i haved the same problem a month ago.. try first to run :
fsck/dev/hda5.. once you ve got into root.. and see if that solve the
problem... i am about to quit mandrake too but because other problems
finally i reinstalled all ... and upgraded my PC but it still doesnt work
100% i cant mount either a cd rom or a diskette )
-Original Message-
From: X Drake [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 3:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] No more Mandrake.
I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything
is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with
Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the
browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So
I went to use the Kill tool on it, but I couldn't because all the desktop
icons had disappeared, leaving only black outlines of where they would
normally be. I still wasn't overly concerned because this happens from time
to time anyway. I tried to shutdown, but the shutdown message just came up
and froze, along with everything else except the mouse. So I manually
rebooted. The "not cleanly unmounted" errors came up, as they have been
every time for the past couple months - it usually seems to just delay the
boot process slightly. But then something different popped up:
"/dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced. /dev/hda5:
inode 43199 has illegal block(s)" and then:
"/dev/hda5: Unexpected Inconsistency: run fsck manually (without -a or -p
options)". Then in red, it says "[FAILED]", followed by: "An error occurred
during the file system check dropping you to a shell. The system will
reboot when you leave the shell. Give root password for maintenance or
ctrl-D for normal startup". So I entered the root password, and it said,
"BASH: ID: command not found". It repeated that bash message for about 5 or
6 lines. I tried the fsck, and then it said: "Parallelizing fsck version
1.14...".
I manually rebooted again, got the same results. Another time I tried the
ctrl-D but it just rebooted back into the same thing. When it rebooted I
saw something about "..cannot unlink..." and "..var/unlock file.." but it
scrolled too fast to make out the whole message.
It took a lot of time and effort over several months to get things to
finally work right, and I still had work left to do. I had previously
experimented with Slackware, which took forever just to get the basics
setup, but then a couple of unexpected severe crashes requiring
reinstallation finally sent me back out in search of something better.
Mandrake seemed to be it, but this latest disaster has me pretty bummed
with the whole thing. It seems like, although Linux may not crash everytime
you turn around, the way Windows does, eventually it is going to crash, and
crash HARD, and not necessarily for any obvious good reason. It's after 1
AM and I've been struggling with this for several hours, so maybe I'll feel
different tomorrow and do another reinstall if I have to. But right now I'm
thinking maybe I might just look for some other OS, maybe FreeBSD or
something. Don't get me wrong - Mandrake has been great, and it's
definitely the best distribution of the 3 I've tried, but it just seems
like there's some inherent unstablenes
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
Alan,
I tried to purchase the CD but there was some sort of billing address discrepency.
If I download the ISO file to one of my partitions, that is the one that I want to
have Linux Mandrake installed to, do I still have to run rawwrite.exe again.
I checked the FAQ section and there appears to be a patch for Autoboot.bat. It
appears that original was wrong.
I have another computer running WinNT4 with 2 FAT partitions (C and D)and the third
partition E is NTFS. This is a Pentium III 733 MHz. I will clear everything out on
the D partition, and try to install on it.
How about it?
Roman
Alan Shoemaker wrote:
Romanas I believe I said before, run partinfo.exe.
I believe you have errors in your partition table that can be
identified by partinfo.exe and fixed with ptedit.exe (both are
part of PM).
Concerning the lost interrupt errors, they are usually
associated with hard drives and cdroms. The best fix for that
is to download the i486 version of mandrake 7.0. If you wish,
it's available on CD at:
http://www.lland.com
It seems that some mass storage devices are out-of-spec timing
wise and this problem with the hardware has shown up because
the i586 optimizations that Mandrake is compiled with push the
limits of the out-of-spec timing parameters of some devices.
The i486 optimizations do not push the hardware as hard in
this area.
Alan
P.S. By the way, buying a MacMillan boxed set will not help,
as all disc 1's in all boxed distros of Mandrake 7.0 and all
GPL CD's (except for the 1486 version) are exactly the same.
Romanator wrote:
Hi folks,
My install keeps booting to text install and then does not recognize my
partition table.
Sample message:
hdb: drive not ready for command
hdb: status error: status = 0x00 {}
unable to read partition table
hdd:hdd: lost interrupt
hdd: lost interrupt
The line: 'hdd: lost interrupt' keeps repeating and repeating until I have to
do a CNTRL+ALT+DELETE.
How do you get into graphical mode? I have the Linux Mandrake 7.0 Power Pack.
Roman
Registered User
Eduardo Arauz wrote:
i haved the same problem a month ago.. try first to run :
fsck/dev/hda5.. once you ve got into root.. and see if that solve the
problem... i am about to quit mandrake too but because other problems
finally i reinstalled all ... and upgraded my PC but it still doesnt work
100% i cant mount either a cd rom or a diskette )
-Original Message-
From: X Drake [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 3:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[newbie] No more Mandrake.
I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything
is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with
Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the
browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So
I went to use the Kill tool on it, but I couldn't because all the desktop
icons had disappeared, leaving only black outlines of where they would
normally be. I still wasn't overly concerned because this happens from time
to time anyway. I tried to shutdown, but the shutdown message just came up
and froze, along with everything else except the mouse. So I manually
rebooted. The "not cleanly unmounted" errors came up, as they have been
every time for the past couple months - it usually seems to just delay the
boot process slightly. But then something different popped up:
"/dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced. /dev/hda5:
inode 43199 has illegal block(s)" and then:
"/dev/hda5: Unexpected Inconsistency: run fsck manually (without -a or -p
options)". Then in red, it says "[FAILED]", followed by: "An error occurred
during the file system check dropping you to a shell. The system will
reboot when you leave the shell. Give root password for maintenance or
ctrl-D for normal startup". So I entered the root password, and it said,
"BASH: ID: command not found". It repeated that bash message for about 5 or
6 lines. I tried the fsck, and then it said: "Parallelizing fsck version
1.14...".
I manually rebooted again, got the same results. Another time I tried the
ctrl-D but it just rebooted back into the same thing. When it rebooted I
saw something about "..cannot unlink..." and "..var/unlock file.." but it
scrolled too fast to make out the whole message.
It took a lot of time and effort over several months to get things to
finally work right, and I still had work left to do. I had previously
experimented with Slackware, which took forever just to get the basics
setup, but then a couple of unexpected severe crashes requiring
reinstallation finally sent me back out in search of something better.
Mandrake seemed to b
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
As a technician I used to see hard drives act flakey but keep working. It was a warning that they were going to fail. If you can verify that you do not have a temperature problem (is the power supply fan working!), put in a new data cable. If problems continue consider yourself twice warned. As an example, Windows 98 scandisk was having problems completing a surface scan over the last couple of months. I do this regularly once a month, and thus was warned that the drive was beginning to get flakey. I replaced it a month ago before any data loss, and before it caused me any grief on installing Linux. -Gary-
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
Romandid you try the below when you had web ordering
problems?
"Please call Net10.net at (800) 338-6192 if you are
experiencing problems with the shopping cart."
Unless you have better than a dial-up (dsl or cable at a
minimum) connection downloading the iso is close to impossible
(a single 650 meg file).
If you do have an iso on your hard drive the only thing I'm
aware of that you can do with it is to burn it onto a CD (an
iso is a disc image and makes a bootable CD [if the original
image was bootable] when burned onto one).
Alan
Romanator wrote:
Alan,
I tried to purchase the CD but there was some sort of billing address discrepency.
If I download the ISO file to one of my partitions, that is the one that I want to
have Linux Mandrake installed to, do I still have to run rawwrite.exe again.
I checked the FAQ section and there appears to be a patch for Autoboot.bat. It
appears that original was wrong.
I have another computer running WinNT4 with 2 FAT partitions (C and D)and the third
partition E is NTFS. This is a Pentium III 733 MHz. I will clear everything out on
the D partition, and try to install on it.
How about it?
Roman
Alan Shoemaker wrote:
Romanas I believe I said before, run partinfo.exe.
I believe you have errors in your partition table that can be
identified by partinfo.exe and fixed with ptedit.exe (both are
part of PM).
Concerning the lost interrupt errors, they are usually
associated with hard drives and cdroms. The best fix for that
is to download the i486 version of mandrake 7.0. If you wish,
it's available on CD at:
http://www.lland.com
It seems that some mass storage devices are out-of-spec timing
wise and this problem with the hardware has shown up because
the i586 optimizations that Mandrake is compiled with push the
limits of the out-of-spec timing parameters of some devices.
The i486 optimizations do not push the hardware as hard in
this area.
Alan
P.S. By the way, buying a MacMillan boxed set will not help,
as all disc 1's in all boxed distros of Mandrake 7.0 and all
GPL CD's (except for the 1486 version) are exactly the same.
Romanator wrote:
Hi folks,
My install keeps booting to text install and then does not recognize my
partition table.
Sample message:
hdb: drive not ready for command
hdb: status error: status = 0x00 {}
unable to read partition table
hdd:hdd: lost interrupt
hdd: lost interrupt
The line: 'hdd: lost interrupt' keeps repeating and repeating until I have to
do a CNTRL+ALT+DELETE.
How do you get into graphical mode? I have the Linux Mandrake 7.0 Power Pack.
Roman
Registered User
Eduardo Arauz wrote:
i haved the same problem a month ago.. try first to run :
fsck/dev/hda5.. once you ve got into root.. and see if that solve the
problem... i am about to quit mandrake too but because other problems
finally i reinstalled all ... and upgraded my PC but it still doesnt work
100% i cant mount either a cd rom or a diskette )
-Original Message-
From: X Drake [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 3:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] No more Mandrake.
I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything
is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with
Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the
browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So
I went to use the Kill tool on it, but I couldn't because all the desktop
icons had disappeared, leaving only black outlines of where they would
normally be. I still wasn't overly concerned because this happens from time
to time anyway. I tried to shutdown, but the shutdown message just came up
and froze, along with everything else except the mouse. So I manually
rebooted. The "not cleanly unmounted" errors came up, as they have been
every time for the past couple months - it usually seems to just delay the
boot process slightly. But then something different popped up:
"/dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced. /dev/hda5:
inode 43199 has illegal block(s)" and then:
"/dev/hda5: Unexpected Inconsistency: run fsck manually (without -a or -p
options)". Then in red, it says "[FAILED]", followed by: "An error occurred
during the file system check dropping you to a shell. The system will
reboot when you leave the shell. Give root password for maintenance or
ctrl-D for normal startup". So I entered the root password, and it said,
"BASH: ID: command not found". It repeated that bash message for about 5 or
6 lines. I tried the fsck, and then it said: "Parallelizing fsck version
1.14...".
I ma
Re: [Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....]
Yes, but it is DOS based, called Norton Utilities 8, and the program to run there is called CALIBRATE, it does extensive pattern testing on the hard drive. Although I have not tried it on a Linux filesystem, but I know that utility can fix some flakey hard drive problems. HTH Jaguar Drake X [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope it's not a hard drive problem. The system is only about 3 months old, although the HD is close to a year old. It's a Maxtor drive. Do you know of any way to do a system check? Thanks! At 07:30 PM 05/14/2000 -0400, you wrote: X Drake wrote: I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So I went to use the Kill tool on it, but I couldn't because all the desktop icons had disappeared, leaving only black outlines of where they would normally be. I still wasn't overly concerned because this happens from time to time anyway. I tried to shutdown, but the shutdown message just came up and froze, along with everything else except the mouse. So I manually SNIP! WOW! I've never had any of these problems, it looks like a flaky hard drive, I know Linux is a LOT more particular about it's disk/file conditions. Back when I was using WinLinux 2000 (Linux used as a BIG Windoze file) I would have to run scan disk almost everytime I tried to use WinLinux! But once Linux was sure of it's files and their condition it ran well. I'm sorry to see you go and I still wonder if it is not a hardware problem: heat on the motherboard, bad stick of RAM or again some weirdness with the hard drive. I know windoze is a lot more tolerant of hard drive errors. vern -- Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, Kentucky[EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was created in a Micro$haft free environment! Silly hacker, root is for administrators! The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
Ok, lets go step by step to what happened and what you should have done, and what you need to do. Most of it isnt' really Mandrakes fault really. I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. That's because Netscape sucks really hard. So I went to use the Kill tool on it, but I couldn't because all the desktop icons had disappeared, leaving only black outlines of where they would normally be. I still wasn't overly concerned because this happens from time to time anyway. I tried to shutdown, but the shutdown message just came up and froze, along with everything else except the mouse. This also happens every once in a while. To get rid of it, hit ctrl+alt+backspace. That will kill X and bring you back to the login prompt. So I manually rebooted. VERY bad idea. Never ever reboot manually unless you absoluty positivily cannot do it from Linux. (which has only happned to me 3 times in the 9 months I've been using Linux). Of course, since you didn't know how to do it from Linux, then in your eyes you couldn't do it, hence rebooting manually was justified in your case. The "not cleanly unmounted" errors came up, as they have been every time for the past couple months - it usually seems to just delay the boot process slightly. But then something different popped up: "/dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced. /dev/hda5: inode 43199 has illegal block(s)" and then: "/dev/hda5: Unexpected Inconsistency: run fsck manually (without -a or -p options)". Then in red, it says "[FAILED]", followed by: "An error occurred during the file system check dropping you to a shell. The system will reboot when you leave the shell. Give root password for maintenance or ctrl-D for normal startup". That's what happens when the gods get displeased at you rebooting manually and decide to make you suffer. Or in a more accurate since, the manual reboot screwed up your file system, and you're supposed to use fsck to fix it. So I entered the root password, and it said, "BASH: ID: command not found". It repeated that bash message for about 5 or 6 lines. I tried the fsck, and then it said: "Parallelizing fsck version 1.14...". That is not a good sign. When you enter the root password it's supposed to drop you into a command prompt so you can run fsck. I manually rebooted again, got the same results. Another time I tried the ctrl-D but it just rebooted back into the same thing. When it rebooted I saw something about "..cannot unlink..." and "..var/unlock file.." but it scrolled too fast to make out the whole message. I'm not sure what you should do know. My best advice is just go ahead and reinstall. It took a lot of time and effort over several months to get things to finally work right, and I still had work left to do. I had previously experimented with Slackware, which took forever just to get the basics setup, but then a couple of unexpected severe crashes requiring reinstallation finally sent me back out in search of something better. Mandrake seemed to be it, but this latest disaster has me pretty bummed with the whole thing. It seems like, although Linux may not crash everytime you turn around, the way Windows does, eventually it is going to crash, and crash HARD, and not necessarily for any obvious good reason. Once a journaling file system gets implemented into Linux, many of the filesystem problems should diminish. Then simply rebooting your machine won't toally screw it up like it did to yours. But intill then, Linux has to be pampered a little bit. It's after 1 AM and I've been struggling with this for several hours, so maybe I'll feel different tomorrow and do another reinstall if I have to. But right now I'm thinking maybe I might just look for some other OS, maybe FreeBSD or something. Don't get me wrong - Mandrake has been great, and it's definitely the best distribution of the 3 I've tried, but it just seems like there's some inherent unstableness of a different kind lurking in Linux in general. Maybe I've just been having a string of bad luck. I may still be a 'newbie' but this one came completely out of left field. The worst part of it - I was just about ready to start spending most of my time in Linux. I had just downloaded (not installed) a program that could do what one of my primary windows programs does, and I had just downloaded VMware (also not installed yet). But now here I am back in Windows full time it looks like. I can almost hear Bill laughing :-( Look at it this way. Now you know what do if it ever happens again. And you already know many of the things you need to do, so reinstallation and configuring won't take near as long as it
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
i just wrote an e-mail to drake x about this problem. it happened to me agin tonight. in my case (and i don't know if it's the same as yours), it was the fstab file. get into the shell and emacs the fstab file. see what it says. i have a hunch that that is your problem. jd From: X Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake. Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 09:32:51 -0700 Thanks JD. I haven't quite decided what to do yet. I feel kind of like a guy who's house just got wiped out by a tornado, and still picking through the debris trying to figure out what the hell happened. What you said about not being able to mount in read/write mode reminds me of something I saw flash on the screen early in the boot process. I was paying extra close attention to everything at bootup after this happened, and so I'm not sure if it was new or not, but I saw something about read-only. It was only on the screen for like a split second. I'll try it again and see if I can catch anything more. At 03:25 PM 05/14/2000 +, you wrote: i'm sorry you have to go. i had a similar problem, but my harddrive wouldn't remount in read/write mode. so i basically had a harddirive that i could only read off of. the only answer i could get where things like edit the fstab file, etc. but i couldn't cause it was a read only hd. finally after a week of spending a least 3 hours a day, i gave up and reinstalled. unfortunatly, that was about a month ago, and this weekend was the first chance i've had to play around and set up mandrake. if you decide that mandrake is worth one more try, great. but if you decide not, we're sorry to lose ya. good luck jd From: X Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] No more Mandrake. Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 01:39:54 -0700 I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So I went to use the Kill tool on it, but I couldn't because all the desktop icons had disappeared, leaving only black outlines of where they would normally be. I still wasn't overly concerned because this happens from time to time anyway. I tried to shutdown, but the shutdown message just came up and froze, along with everything else except the mouse. So I manually rebooted. The "not cleanly unmounted" errors came up, as they have been every time for the past couple months - it usually seems to just delay the boot process slightly. But then something different popped up: "/dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced. /dev/hda5: inode 43199 has illegal block(s)" and then: "/dev/hda5: Unexpected Inconsistency: run fsck manually (without -a or -p options)". Then in red, it says "[FAILED]", followed by: "An error occurred during the file system check dropping you to a shell. The system will reboot when you leave the shell. Give root password for maintenance or ctrl-D for normal startup". So I entered the root password, and it said, "BASH: ID: command not found". It repeated that bash message for about 5 or 6 lines. I tried the fsck, and then it said: "Parallelizing fsck version 1.14...". I manually rebooted again, got the same results. Another time I tried the ctrl-D but it just rebooted back into the same thing. When it rebooted I saw something about "..cannot unlink..." and "..var/unlock file.." but it scrolled too fast to make out the whole message. It took a lot of time and effort over several months to get things to finally work right, and I still had work left to do. I had previously experimented with Slackware, which took forever just to get the basics setup, but then a couple of unexpected severe crashes requiring reinstallation finally sent me back out in search of something better. Mandrake seemed to be it, but this latest disaster has me pretty bummed with the whole thing. It seems like, although Linux may not crash everytime you turn around, the way Windows does, eventually it is going to crash, and crash HARD, and not necessarily for any obvious good reason. It's after 1 AM and I've been struggling with this for several hours, so maybe I'll feel different tomorrow and do another reinstall if I have to. But right now I'm thinking maybe I might just look for some other OS, maybe FreeBSD or something. Don't get me wrong - Mandrake has been great, and it's definitely the best distribution of the 3 I've tried, but it just seems like there's some inherent unstableness of a different kind lurking in Linux in general. Maybe I've just been having a string of bad luck. I may still be a 'newbie' but this one came completely out of left field. The worst p
[newbie] No more Mandrake.....
I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So I went to use the Kill tool on it, but I couldn't because all the desktop icons had disappeared, leaving only black outlines of where they would normally be. I still wasn't overly concerned because this happens from time to time anyway. I tried to shutdown, but the shutdown message just came up and froze, along with everything else except the mouse. So I manually rebooted. The "not cleanly unmounted" errors came up, as they have been every time for the past couple months - it usually seems to just delay the boot process slightly. But then something different popped up: "/dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced. /dev/hda5: inode 43199 has illegal block(s)" and then: "/dev/hda5: Unexpected Inconsistency: run fsck manually (without -a or -p options)". Then in red, it says "[FAILED]", followed by: "An error occurred during the file system check dropping you to a shell. The system will reboot when you leave the shell. Give root password for maintenance or ctrl-D for normal startup". So I entered the root password, and it said, "BASH: ID: command not found". It repeated that bash message for about 5 or 6 lines. I tried the fsck, and then it said: "Parallelizing fsck version 1.14...". I manually rebooted again, got the same results. Another time I tried the ctrl-D but it just rebooted back into the same thing. When it rebooted I saw something about "..cannot unlink..." and "..var/unlock file.." but it scrolled too fast to make out the whole message. It took a lot of time and effort over several months to get things to finally work right, and I still had work left to do. I had previously experimented with Slackware, which took forever just to get the basics setup, but then a couple of unexpected severe crashes requiring reinstallation finally sent me back out in search of something better. Mandrake seemed to be it, but this latest disaster has me pretty bummed with the whole thing. It seems like, although Linux may not crash everytime you turn around, the way Windows does, eventually it is going to crash, and crash HARD, and not necessarily for any obvious good reason. It's after 1 AM and I've been struggling with this for several hours, so maybe I'll feel different tomorrow and do another reinstall if I have to. But right now I'm thinking maybe I might just look for some other OS, maybe FreeBSD or something. Don't get me wrong - Mandrake has been great, and it's definitely the best distribution of the 3 I've tried, but it just seems like there's some inherent unstableness of a different kind lurking in Linux in general. Maybe I've just been having a string of bad luck. I may still be a 'newbie' but this one came completely out of left field. The worst part of it - I was just about ready to start spending most of my time in Linux. I had just downloaded (not installed) a program that could do what one of my primary windows programs does, and I had just downloaded VMware (also not installed yet). But now here I am back in Windows full time it looks like. I can almost hear Bill laughing :-(
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
Thanks for the inspiration Andrew! I can certainly use it right now! At 10:04 PM 05/14/2000 +0100, you wrote: -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake. Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 15:25:30 GMT From: "J D" [EMAIL PROTECTED] But now here I am back in Windows full time it looks like. I can almost hear Bill laughing :-( Sorry to hear of your troubles with Mandrake and unfortunatly as a newbie I'm in no position to help. However Linux is a marvellous system and even if mandrake has proved somewhat problematic there are plenty of alternatives out there so don't give up. A friend of mine is having a hell of a time installing Md 7 but sees it as being a part of the whole fun of running Linux. Don't give up. Shop around first and then maybe you can be laughing right back in the face of Mr. Gates. -- Andrew Blackburn England -- In the pursuit of learning, Everyday something is aquired -- (Lao Tzu: Tao Te Ching)
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
X Drake wrote: I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So I went to use the Kill tool on it, but I couldn't because all the desktop icons had disappeared, leaving only black outlines of where they would normally be. I still wasn't overly concerned because this happens from time to time anyway. I tried to shutdown, but the shutdown message just came up and froze, along with everything else except the mouse. So I manually SNIP! WOW! I've never had any of these problems, it looks like a flaky hard drive, I know Linux is a LOT more particular about it's disk/file conditions. Back when I was using WinLinux 2000 (Linux used as a BIG Windoze file) I would have to run scan disk almost everytime I tried to use WinLinux! But once Linux was sure of it's files and their condition it ran well. I'm sorry to see you go and I still wonder if it is not a hardware problem: heat on the motherboard, bad stick of RAM or again some weirdness with the hard drive. I know windoze is a lot more tolerant of hard drive errors. vern -- Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, Kentucky[EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was created in a Micro$haft free environment! Silly hacker, root is for administrators!
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
On Sun, 14 May 2000, Paul wrote: On Sun, 14 May 2000, X Drake wrote: I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So Did you have no trouble to get back into Windows? This sounds so strange... If you did not have to reformat all kinds of things, then I am puzzled. If you did have to reformat your disk, then I could imagine that the harddisk itself has a problem. Well I had similar problems with M6 on a P75 w/ MB or PS problems, the disk was fine in my case. M7 is a lot better at self recovery (same system, same errors but it fixed itself). Once I moved the disk to another system all was well (note that I also had a lot of registry errors w/ Win on that P75 system). I don't think everything is gone but I don't have any suggestions for recovery. It doesn't help now but a couple of things I do in similar situations is to use Utilities Process Management for killing a progie and ctl-alt-backspace restart X if X gets weird.
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
i'm sorry you have to go. i had a similar problem, but my harddrive wouldn't remount in read/write mode. so i basically had a harddirive that i could only read off of. the only answer i could get where things like edit the fstab file, etc. but i couldn't cause it was a read only hd. finally after a week of spending a least 3 hours a day, i gave up and reinstalled. unfortunatly, that was about a month ago, and this weekend was the first chance i've had to play around and set up mandrake. if you decide that mandrake is worth one more try, great. but if you decide not, we're sorry to lose ya. good luck jd From: X Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] No more Mandrake. Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 01:39:54 -0700 I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So I went to use the Kill tool on it, but I couldn't because all the desktop icons had disappeared, leaving only black outlines of where they would normally be. I still wasn't overly concerned because this happens from time to time anyway. I tried to shutdown, but the shutdown message just came up and froze, along with everything else except the mouse. So I manually rebooted. The "not cleanly unmounted" errors came up, as they have been every time for the past couple months - it usually seems to just delay the boot process slightly. But then something different popped up: "/dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced. /dev/hda5: inode 43199 has illegal block(s)" and then: "/dev/hda5: Unexpected Inconsistency: run fsck manually (without -a or -p options)". Then in red, it says "[FAILED]", followed by: "An error occurred during the file system check dropping you to a shell. The system will reboot when you leave the shell. Give root password for maintenance or ctrl-D for normal startup". So I entered the root password, and it said, "BASH: ID: command not found". It repeated that bash message for about 5 or 6 lines. I tried the fsck, and then it said: "Parallelizing fsck version 1.14...". I manually rebooted again, got the same results. Another time I tried the ctrl-D but it just rebooted back into the same thing. When it rebooted I saw something about "..cannot unlink..." and "..var/unlock file.." but it scrolled too fast to make out the whole message. It took a lot of time and effort over several months to get things to finally work right, and I still had work left to do. I had previously experimented with Slackware, which took forever just to get the basics setup, but then a couple of unexpected severe crashes requiring reinstallation finally sent me back out in search of something better. Mandrake seemed to be it, but this latest disaster has me pretty bummed with the whole thing. It seems like, although Linux may not crash everytime you turn around, the way Windows does, eventually it is going to crash, and crash HARD, and not necessarily for any obvious good reason. It's after 1 AM and I've been struggling with this for several hours, so maybe I'll feel different tomorrow and do another reinstall if I have to. But right now I'm thinking maybe I might just look for some other OS, maybe FreeBSD or something. Don't get me wrong - Mandrake has been great, and it's definitely the best distribution of the 3 I've tried, but it just seems like there's some inherent unstableness of a different kind lurking in Linux in general. Maybe I've just been having a string of bad luck. I may still be a 'newbie' but this one came completely out of left field. The worst part of it - I was just about ready to start spending most of my time in Linux. I had just downloaded (not installed) a program that could do what one of my primary windows programs does, and I had just downloaded VMware (also not installed yet). But now here I am back in Windows full time it looks like. I can almost hear Bill laughing :-( Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
Thanks JD. I haven't quite decided what to do yet. I feel kind of like a guy who's house just got wiped out by a tornado, and still picking through the debris trying to figure out what the hell happened. What you said about not being able to mount in read/write mode reminds me of something I saw flash on the screen early in the boot process. I was paying extra close attention to everything at bootup after this happened, and so I'm not sure if it was new or not, but I saw something about read-only. It was only on the screen for like a split second. I'll try it again and see if I can catch anything more. At 03:25 PM 05/14/2000 +, you wrote: i'm sorry you have to go. i had a similar problem, but my harddrive wouldn't remount in read/write mode. so i basically had a harddirive that i could only read off of. the only answer i could get where things like edit the fstab file, etc. but i couldn't cause it was a read only hd. finally after a week of spending a least 3 hours a day, i gave up and reinstalled. unfortunatly, that was about a month ago, and this weekend was the first chance i've had to play around and set up mandrake. if you decide that mandrake is worth one more try, great. but if you decide not, we're sorry to lose ya. good luck jd From: X Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] No more Mandrake. Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 01:39:54 -0700 I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So I went to use the Kill tool on it, but I couldn't because all the desktop icons had disappeared, leaving only black outlines of where they would normally be. I still wasn't overly concerned because this happens from time to time anyway. I tried to shutdown, but the shutdown message just came up and froze, along with everything else except the mouse. So I manually rebooted. The "not cleanly unmounted" errors came up, as they have been every time for the past couple months - it usually seems to just delay the boot process slightly. But then something different popped up: "/dev/hda5 contains a file system with errors, check forced. /dev/hda5: inode 43199 has illegal block(s)" and then: "/dev/hda5: Unexpected Inconsistency: run fsck manually (without -a or -p options)". Then in red, it says "[FAILED]", followed by: "An error occurred during the file system check dropping you to a shell. The system will reboot when you leave the shell. Give root password for maintenance or ctrl-D for normal startup". So I entered the root password, and it said, "BASH: ID: command not found". It repeated that bash message for about 5 or 6 lines. I tried the fsck, and then it said: "Parallelizing fsck version 1.14...". I manually rebooted again, got the same results. Another time I tried the ctrl-D but it just rebooted back into the same thing. When it rebooted I saw something about "..cannot unlink..." and "..var/unlock file.." but it scrolled too fast to make out the whole message. It took a lot of time and effort over several months to get things to finally work right, and I still had work left to do. I had previously experimented with Slackware, which took forever just to get the basics setup, but then a couple of unexpected severe crashes requiring reinstallation finally sent me back out in search of something better. Mandrake seemed to be it, but this latest disaster has me pretty bummed with the whole thing. It seems like, although Linux may not crash everytime you turn around, the way Windows does, eventually it is going to crash, and crash HARD, and not necessarily for any obvious good reason. It's after 1 AM and I've been struggling with this for several hours, so maybe I'll feel different tomorrow and do another reinstall if I have to. But right now I'm thinking maybe I might just look for some other OS, maybe FreeBSD or something. Don't get me wrong - Mandrake has been great, and it's definitely the best distribution of the 3 I've tried, but it just seems like there's some inherent unstableness of a different kind lurking in Linux in general. Maybe I've just been having a string of bad luck. I may still be a 'newbie' but this one came completely out of left field. The worst part of it - I was just about ready to start spending most of my time in Linux. I had just downloaded (not installed) a program that could do what one of my primary windows programs does, and I had just downloaded VMware (also not installed yet). But now here I am back in Windows full time it looks like. I can almost hear Bill laughing :-( Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
On Sun, 14 May 2000, X Drake wrote: I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So Did you have no trouble to get back into Windows? This sounds so strange... If you did not have to reformat all kinds of things, then I am puzzled. If you did have to reformat your disk, then I could imagine that the harddisk itself has a problem. I have had that once too, a 3 year old disk just crapped out on me with no reason. Reformat went well, but a month later it was down again. I threw it away. Paul )0(---)0( Silence. Do you remember how that sounds? )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403
Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake.....
i have not been into linux long not even close to long. i have never heard of a hd going bad after a year. unless you got sold a faulty hd. - Original Message - From: "Drake X" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] No more Mandrake. | I hope it's not a hard drive problem. The system is only about 3 months | old, although the HD is close to a year old. It's a Maxtor drive. Do you | know of any way to do a system check? Thanks! | | At 07:30 PM 05/14/2000 -0400, you wrote: | X Drake wrote: | | I think I may finally be ready to throw in the towel on Linux. Everything | is gone, and I wasn't even doing a damn thing other than browsing with | Netscape. One 2nd everything was great, then for no apparent reason the | browser went blank - nothing but a white screen - and it wouldn't close. So | I went to use the Kill tool on it, but I couldn't because all the desktop | icons had disappeared, leaving only black outlines of where they would | normally be. I still wasn't overly concerned because this happens from time | to time anyway. I tried to shutdown, but the shutdown message just came up | and froze, along with everything else except the mouse. So I manually | SNIP! | WOW! I've never had any of these problems, it looks like a flaky hard | drive, | I know Linux is a LOT more particular about it's disk/file conditions. | Back | when I was using WinLinux 2000 (Linux used as a BIG Windoze file) I | would have | to run scan disk almost everytime I tried to use WinLinux! But once | Linux was | sure of it's files and their condition it ran well. I'm sorry to see | you go and | I still wonder if it is not a hardware problem: heat on the motherboard, | bad stick | of RAM or again some weirdness with the hard drive. I know windoze is a | lot more | tolerant of hard drive errors. | vern | | -- | Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Hardinsburg, Kentucky[EMAIL PROTECTED] |This email was created in a Micro$haft free environment! | Silly hacker, root is for administrators! | | _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
