Re: [newbie] Novell servers
Hey Mark... Did this help you? It probably would've taken me another month to even approach this level of Linux/IPX understanding, if I spent time with it... I spend my days troubleshooting Windoze NT integration to a Novell network, and fixing groupwise/client pushdowns that fail miserably. I just haven't yet gotten the chance to get my linux box at work authenticated to the Novell servers (and I've been playing with it at my desk for a year now!)...I do most of my linux playing on my LAN at home. --Greg This is WAY awesome! thank you Jose!!! -- Mark "Jose M. Sanchez" wrote: Check to see if you have it installed... Type in # rpm -qa | grep ncpfs - (SNIPPED) __ message envoye depuis http://www.ifrance.com emails (pop)-sites persos (espace illimite)-agenda-favoris (bookmarks)-forums Ecoutez ce message par tel ! : 08 92 68 92 15 (france uniquement)
RE: [newbie] Novell servers
Check to see if you have it installed... Type in # rpm -qa | grep ncpfs - If you see a result I.E. ncpfs-2.2.0.16.a-2mdk, etc. You'll be able to mount the Novell Server AFTER you configure IPX. This can be done via nwserv.conf and Linuxconf. (enable IPX). Note: Linuxconf might make using nwserv.conf redundant... but you might want to go ahead and set up your Linux box as a Novell Server anyway... Check to see if IPX is running... # ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:10:5A:04:36:65 inet addr:10.0.0.1 Bcast:10.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 IPX/Ethernet II addr:00A3:00105A043665 IPX/Ethernet SNAP addr:0032:00105A043665 IPX/Ethernet 802.2 addr:003C:00105A043665 IPX/Ethernet 802.3 addr:00A2:00105A043665 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:38895840 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:22372695 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:6 collisions:69827 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:9 Base address:0xe400 Notice the IPX entries... If you don't see this, try restarting the "Novell" services... # /etc/rc.d/init.d/mars-nwe restart And browse your servers... # slist Known NetWare File Servers Network Node Address -- LAN 34AB2A8F 0001 Finally: /usr/bin/ncpmount -S SERVERNAME -U USERNAME -P PASSWORD /mnt/nwserver Will mount the Novell server "under" the directory called /mnt/nwserver which you have created, previously... -JMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Neal F. Carrier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 6:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Novell servers On 5 Aug 2000, at 4:47, LINUX_0 wrote: There is no problem !!! Do you know the ncpfs packet ?? ah no, what is it??? With the ncp file system packet you can mount and umount entire novell servers on anywhere of your Linux tree. HOW? And yu can see the print servers, delete print jobs, delete objects of the novell tree, add objects, and all you can imagine !!! There comes in the Mandrake 7.1 distribution, and also can be found in a lot of RPM servers. I think ncpfs-2.2.0.17.a-1mdk.i586.rpm is the last version. Are you saying you have to install this rpm in order to do this?
Re: [newbie] Novell servers
"Jose M. Sanchez" wrote: Check to see if you have it installed... Type in # rpm -qa | grep ncpfs - If you see a result I.E. ncpfs-2.2.0.16.a-2mdk, etc. You'll be able to mount the Novell Server AFTER you configure IPX. This can be done via nwserv.conf and Linuxconf. (enable IPX). Note: Linuxconf might make using nwserv.conf redundant... but you might want to go ahead and set up your Linux box as a Novell Server anyway... Check to see if IPX is running... # ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:10:5A:04:36:65 inet addr:10.0.0.1 Bcast:10.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 IPX/Ethernet II addr:00A3:00105A043665 IPX/Ethernet SNAP addr:0032:00105A043665 IPX/Ethernet 802.2 addr:003C:00105A043665 IPX/Ethernet 802.3 addr:00A2:00105A043665 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:38895840 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:22372695 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:6 collisions:69827 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:9 Base address:0xe400 Notice the IPX entries... If you don't see this, try restarting the "Novell" services... # /etc/rc.d/init.d/mars-nwe restart And browse your servers... # slist Known NetWare File Servers Network Node Address -- LAN 34AB2A8F 0001 Finally: /usr/bin/ncpmount -S SERVERNAME -U USERNAME -P PASSWORD /mnt/nwserver Will mount the Novell server "under" the directory called /mnt/nwserver which you have created, previously... -JMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Neal F. Carrier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 6:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Novell servers On 5 Aug 2000, at 4:47, LINUX_0 wrote: There is no problem !!! Do you know the ncpfs packet ?? ah no, what is it??? With the ncp file system packet you can mount and umount entire novell servers on anywhere of your Linux tree. HOW? And yu can see the print servers, delete print jobs, delete objects of the novell tree, add objects, and all you can imagine !!! There comes in the Mandrake 7.1 distribution, and also can be found in a lot of RPM servers. I think ncpfs-2.2.0.17.a-1mdk.i586.rpm is the last version. Are you saying you have to install this rpm in order to do this? This is WAY awesome! thank you Jose!!! -- Mark -- ** =/\= ** =/\=** =/\= ** NO PENGUINS WERE MISTREATED IN THE MAKING OF THIS MESSAGE ** REGISTERED LINUX USER #182496 --
Re: [newbie] Novell servers
Hi Greg, The kernel is compiled with IPX support. The messages I was getting after installing the nwclient from the Caldera site was that it couldn't create a data, management socket. I'm not too clear yet what it's telling me. that's about as close as I've come to getting it working. I can see parts of the network. There are a few machines on the LAN that are using Netbuie, much to mu supervisors' chagrin. at the moment though there is a real need for these few to do this. There is another machine that doesn't even know they're running this protocol. I can see those machines, I can see the internet, but I can't authenticate myself the Novell servers. yet! thanks for replying and I totally understand about being so busy you don't know whether to crap or go blind! -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Sun, 13 Aug 2000, Greg Stewart wrote: Sorry for the delay, I've been swamped by the activity on this board, and my getting a cable modem has only made it possible for me to get the tidal wave of messages 100 times faster. Truthfully, I haven't had the need to get linux connected as a client on my company's Novell network, but I have an linux ftp server at my desk that I can play with. I was reading the HOW-TOs and it seems there's a possibility that IPX needs to be compiled into the kernel--is it already part of your kernel? Could this be the problem? Also, and this is just a thought, do you have samba running, with encrypted passwords on? This may conflict with Novell's open text password transmission. Can you at least see a Novell network, even if you can't mount anything? This is something that I had been planning to play around with, but never got the chance to do... I've a busy schedule this month, but I'll try to fit it in and give a try. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. --Greg hi Greg, I managed to find and install the Novell client from Caldera and everything as far as the client is working fine, however it's not able to attach to the server. this has got me stumped. I thought for a moment that maybe pmfirewall was blocking the packets, but I turned it off and rebooted and was still unable to get the client to attach to the server. I have the adapter defined properly in linuxconf along with my network address. other than that I don't know what else I need to do or what could be causing the client not to be able to attach itself. and ideas? -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 On Sun, 6 Aug 2000, Greg Stewart wrote: www.linux.org has a search engine for the HOW-TOs. If you search "novell" you'll find an s-load of documents all about linux-novell connectivity. Somewhere in there is a guid to setup novell log in (works just like the MS-NWLink Client, I believe). --Greg Yes, Paul that's correct. They're running IPX. At the moment we don't have a client that will allow me to login. I was looking around at the Novell site and they have a client for Unix, but since I'm the only one so far with a Linux box I don't think they're going to be willing to spend the money on the client. At least not just yet. I have been working with VMware though and I can run windows when I need to access the network as a guest OS. This is working very well. It's kinda funny cause in the past 3 days with Windows running in a small window on my linux desktop. It has crashed 6 times while Linux is still running. Makes me laugh...a lot! -- Mark __ message envoye depuis http://www.ifrance.com emails (pop)-sites persos (espace illimite)-agenda-favoris (bookmarks)-forums Ecoutez ce message par tel ! : 08 92 68 92 15 (france uniquement) __ message envoye depuis http://www.ifrance.com emails (pop)-sites persos (espace illimite)-agenda-favoris (bookmarks)-forums Ecoutez ce message par tel ! : 08 92 68 92 15 (france uniquement)
Re: [newbie] Novell servers
Sorry for the delay, I've been swamped by the activity on this board, and my getting a cable modem has only made it possible for me to get the tidal wave of messages 100 times faster. Truthfully, I haven't had the need to get linux connected as a client on my company's Novell network, but I have an linux ftp server at my desk that I can play with. I was reading the HOW-TOs and it seems there's a possibility that IPX needs to be compiled into the kernel--is it already part of your kernel? Could this be the problem? Also, and this is just a thought, do you have samba running, with encrypted passwords on? This may conflict with Novell's open text password transmission. Can you at least see a Novell network, even if you can't mount anything? This is something that I had been planning to play around with, but never got the chance to do... I've a busy schedule this month, but I'll try to fit it in and give a try. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. --Greg hi Greg, I managed to find and install the Novell client from Caldera and everything as far as the client is working fine, however it's not able to attach to the server. this has got me stumped. I thought for a moment that maybe pmfirewall was blocking the packets, but I turned it off and rebooted and was still unable to get the client to attach to the server. I have the adapter defined properly in linuxconf along with my network address. other than that I don't know what else I need to do or what could be causing the client not to be able to attach itself. and ideas? -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 On Sun, 6 Aug 2000, Greg Stewart wrote: www.linux.org has a search engine for the HOW-TOs. If you search "novell" you'll find an s-load of documents all about linux-novell connectivity. Somewhere in there is a guid to setup novell log in (works just like the MS-NWLink Client, I believe). --Greg Yes, Paul that's correct. They're running IPX. At the moment we don't have a client that will allow me to login. I was looking around at the Novell site and they have a client for Unix, but since I'm the only one so far with a Linux box I don't think they're going to be willing to spend the money on the client. At least not just yet. I have been working with VMware though and I can run windows when I need to access the network as a guest OS. This is working very well. It's kinda funny cause in the past 3 days with Windows running in a small window on my linux desktop. It has crashed 6 times while Linux is still running. Makes me laugh...a lot! -- Mark __ message envoye depuis http://www.ifrance.com emails (pop)-sites persos (espace illimite)-agenda-favoris (bookmarks)-forums Ecoutez ce message par tel ! : 08 92 68 92 15 (france uniquement) __ message envoye depuis http://www.ifrance.com emails (pop)-sites persos (espace illimite)-agenda-favoris (bookmarks)-forums Ecoutez ce message par tel ! : 08 92 68 92 15 (france uniquement)
Re: [newbie] Novell servers
On 5 Aug 2000, at 4:47, LINUX_0 wrote: There is no problem !!! Do you know the ncpfs packet ?? ah no, what is it??? With the ncp file system packet you can mount and umount entire novell servers on anywhere of your Linux tree. HOW? And yu can see the print servers, delete print jobs, delete objects of the novell tree, add objects, and all you can imagine !!! There comes in the Mandrake 7.1 distribution, and also can be found in a lot of RPM servers. I think ncpfs-2.2.0.17.a-1mdk.i586.rpm is the last version. Are you saying you have to install this rpm in order to do this?
Re: [newbie] Novell servers
www.linux.org has a search engine for the HOW-TOs. If you search "novell" you'll find an s-load of documents all about linux-novell connectivity. Somewhere in there is a guid to setup novell log in (works just like the MS-NWLink Client, I believe). --Greg Yes, Paul that's correct. They're running IPX. At the moment we don't have a client that will allow me to login. I was looking around at the Novell site and they have a client for Unix, but since I'm the only one so far with a Linux box I don't think they're going to be willing to spend the money on the client. At least not just yet. I have been working with VMware though and I can run windows when I need to access the network as a guest OS. This is working very well. It's kinda funny cause in the past 3 days with Windows running in a small window on my linux desktop. It has crashed 6 times while Linux is still running. Makes me laugh...a lot! -- Mark __ message envoye depuis http://www.ifrance.com emails (pop)-sites persos (espace illimite)-agenda-favoris (bookmarks)-forums Ecoutez ce message par tel ! : 08 92 68 92 15 (france uniquement)
Re: [newbie] Novell servers
There is no problem !!! Do you know the ncpfs packet ?? With the ncp file system packet you can mount and umount entire novell servers on anywhere of your Linux tree. And yu can see the print servers, delete print jobs, delete objects of the novell tree, add objects, and all you can imagine !!! There comes in the Mandrake 7.1 distribution, and also can be found in a lot of RPM servers. I think ncpfs-2.2.0.17.a-1mdk.i586.rpm is the last version. On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: :( *mark pouts jealously* My boss has allowed me to install Mandrake on my workstation, but I can't figure out how to get it to see the servers, and I haven't worked out how to log onto the Network with it yet. We're running Novell servers. Any ideas? Are the Novell servers configured to run TCP/IP then you should not have a problem, I think. Sounds like they are set up with IPX/SPX, which I havenever used in Unix. Paul -- Malek's Law: Any simple idea will be worded in the most complicated way. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=- ___ Consigue tu e-mail gratuito TERRA.ES Haz click en http://www.terra.es/correo/
Re: [newbie] Novell servers
Yes, Paul that's correct. They're running IPX. At the moment we don't have a client that will allow me to login. I was looking around at the Novell site and they have a client for Unix, but since I'm the only one so far with a Linux box I don't think they're going to be willing to spend the money on the client. At least not just yet. I have been working with VMware though and I can run windows when I need to access the network as a guest OS. This is working very well. It's kinda funny cause in the past 3 days with Windows running in a small window on my linux desktop. It has crashed 6 times while Linux is still running. Makes me laugh...a lot! -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ** _||_ in the making of this | ** =\/= message...| Registered Linux user #182496 On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Paul wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: :( *mark pouts jealously* My boss has allowed me to install Mandrake on my workstation, but I can't figure out how to get it to see the servers, and I haven't worked out how to log onto the Network with it yet. We're running Novell servers. Any ideas? Are the Novell servers configured to run TCP/IP then you should not have a problem, I think. Sounds like they are set up with IPX/SPX, which I have never used in Unix. Paul -- Malek's Law: Any simple idea will be worded in the most complicated way. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Novell servers
On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: Yes, Paul that's correct. They're running IPX. At the moment we don't have a client that will allow me to login. I was looking around at the Novell site and they have a client for Unix, but since I'm the only one so far with a Linux box I don't think they're going to be willing to spend the money on the client. At least not just yet. Hi Mark, I stumbled over something in Linuxconf the other day (at least the version that I have on mdk7.1 here). Open it, in Config select "Networking", and from there select the option "IPX interface setup". From there you should be able to get something going. In config you enable IPX networking, and in Adaptor1/2/3 you should be able to find the proper frame-type (802.2 or 803.2 is my best bet, who uses Snap these days...) Dunno how you'd have to proceed from there, but this could be a start. I have been working with VMware though and I can run windows when I need to access the network as a guest OS. This is working very well. It's kinda funny cause in the past 3 days with Windows running in a small window on my linux desktop. It has crashed 6 times while Linux is still running. Makes me laugh...a lot! Hahahaha!!! (Why am I not surprised??) At work my Win NT setup falls over about once a month. ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ** _||_ in the making of this| ** =\/= message... | Registered Linux user #182496 Glad about that. Who'd harm a penguin!! Paul -- We live like robots. This requires nerves of steel!! )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
Re: [newbie] Novell servers
go to www.linux.org and search the HOW-TOs for Novell Netware. These HOW-TOs are very good, but you need to follow them carefully. If Linux is setup incorrectly, you can wind up broadcasting discovery packets that will flood the network bandwidth like crazy...not a good thing if you want to keep your linux box unseen from an MIS department. --Greg On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: :( *mark pouts jealously* My boss has allowed me to install Mandrake on my workstation, but I can't figure out how to get it to see the servers, and I haven't worked out how to log onto the Network with it yet. We're running Novell servers. Any ideas? Are the Novell servers configured to run TCP/IP then you should not have a problem, I think. Sounds like they are set up with IPX/SPX, which I have never used in Unix. Paul * Want free email? Sign up at http://www.freeze.com !
Re: [newbie] Novell servers
Peace To whom it may concern. Please check out the MandrakeUser website at http://www.mandrakeuser.org/ These are the topics dealt with on the site! Administration: Using the Shell, Daemons, Processes, Mounting and more... Connectivity: SAMBA, Dial-up (PPP), IP-Masquerading, LAN and more... Forum: Speak up in MUO's user forum! Hardware: Resources, Configuration, Tips Tricks and more... Installation: Partioning, Booting, Disk Druid, Fips, LiLo, Kernel and more... GNU/Linux Basics: RPM, Compiling Source Code, Handling Documentation and more... Other Resources: GNU/Linux Resources, Mandrake Resources, Useful programs and more... Security: SSH Site Map: All MUO on one huge page... Troubleshooting: Tips on Troubleshooting, Overview on MUO's TS Resources, Quick Hacks and more... X: Setup, Networking with X, Troubleshooting and more... For info on Novell Conectivity see this link. http://www.mandrakeuser.org/connect/cipx.html Amien -- No Fate But What U Make. On Thu, 03 Aug 2000, you wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: :( *mark pouts jealously* My boss has allowed me to install Mandrake on my workstation, but I can't figure out how to get it to see the servers, and I haven't worked out how to log onto the Network with it yet. We're running Novell servers. Any ideas? Are the Novell servers configured to run TCP/IP then you should not have a problem, I think. Sounds like they are set up with IPX/SPX, which I have never used in Unix. Paul -- Malek's Law: Any simple idea will be worded in the most complicated way. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
[newbie] Novell servers
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Mark Weaver wrote: :( *mark pouts jealously* My boss has allowed me to install Mandrake on my workstation, but I can't figure out how to get it to see the servers, and I haven't worked out how to log onto the Network with it yet. We're running Novell servers. Any ideas? Are the Novell servers configured to run TCP/IP then you should not have a problem, I think. Sounds like they are set up with IPX/SPX, which I have never used in Unix. Paul -- Malek's Law: Any simple idea will be worded in the most complicated way. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
