Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update?
- Original Message - From: David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 23:00 Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update? On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 08:27:32 -0600 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone else suggested that maybe I was looking for kpackage. Sounds right but it's not in KDE and neither is mandrake update but it is in gnome. So I You're probably right on that one. I have not used it very much, and find that it's not here on my Mandrake system (cooker, not yet beta though). It's a KDE app, and used to be in kdeadmin, but the KDE rpms in particular have been fractionalized in the last few months, with much of the functionality broken up into little pieces. What was at one time a monolithic package (kdeadmin, for instance) now has a slew of components, and this likely explains why you couldn't find it and it isn't installed by default over here. Using urpmf kpackage seems to tell me you (and I) should look for a package called 'kdeadmin-kpackage'. There seem to be remnants of it here, but kpackage itself is not found. That is a pity I understood that package. It is still being used in other dist but I dont feel able to go through the hassel of importing it. Strictly speaking, Mandrake Update isn't part of gnome. It may look like a gnome app but it can be used irrespective of the window manager. But when it fails? Then just switch to urpmi -auto-select (as you suggested and you find out that its better anyway). During the update Mandrake Update dissappeared, it returned when I updated menus, and when I switched to urpmi things improved( were you aware that it works differently in gnome KDE. The KDE version is closer to Man. Up.). and working on security. Frankly mandrake update needs to be more robust. It needs too much management. Specifically urpmi needs alternate mirrors avilable so if one is busy just switch to another, if too slow try another. There are enough mirrors to support this activity. Downloading the original 3 CD's I spent most of my time in de,au,at,hg,fr and very little time in us. The few times I've used it in the past -- yes, to a point, but it's basically a GUI shell for the underlying update system that Mandrake uses -- i.e., urpmi. Many common errors with that (IMHO) are connection failures, mirrors out of sync, and not strictly a problem as such with the method that Mandrake uses. Thanks for the help. I did not chop this because newbie's should be aware of some things that can and will happen to them. Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update?
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 08:27:32 -0600 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone else suggested that maybe I was looking for kpackage. Sounds right but it's not in KDE and neither is mandrake update but it is in gnome. So I You're probably right on that one. I have not used it very much, and find that it's not here on my Mandrake system (cooker, not yet beta though). It's a KDE app, and used to be in kdeadmin, but the KDE rpms in particular have been fractionalized in the last few months, with much of the functionality broken up into little pieces. What was at one time a monolithic package (kdeadmin, for instance) now has a slew of components, and this likely explains why you couldn't find it and it isn't installed by default over here. Using urpmf kpackage seems to tell me you (and I) should look for a package called 'kdeadmin-kpackage'. There seem to be remnants of it here, but kpackage itself is not found. Strictly speaking, Mandrake Update isn't part of gnome. It may look like a gnome app but it can be used irrespective of the window manager. and working on security. Frankly mandrake update needs to be more robust. It needs too much management. The few times I've used it in the past -- yes, to a point, but it's basically a GUI shell for the underlying update system that Mandrake uses -- i.e., urpmi. Many common errors with that (IMHO) are connection failures, mirrors out of sync, and not strictly a problem as such with the method that Mandrake uses. Hoyt -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Ready to update?
Hoyt; Does Lookout Express make this signature thing difficult? The same quote seems to appear at the top of most of your emails. Glenn On Tuesday 03 February 2004 20:42, Hoyt Bailey wrote: Ignore the past and you will fail Ignore the future and you have already failed. - Original Message - From: Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 18:12 Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Ready to update? On Tuesday 03 February 2004 09:49 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: snip I'm using the cpu moniter applet and the modem lights applet to monitor things. The cpu is very inactive hardly works, except when installing a program then it fills the entire monitor. The moden lights indicates that the server is responding and sending information but there are no messages to advise me what is going on (I dont know what message 109 means or 180 17 or etc.). The major problem is that either some program times out and decides that it isnt going to get the rpm and a message appears that tells me that install cant read the sig. Cant open the rpm, which hasnt been downloaded because it quit before downloading. So I click continue and install and maybe it will download the rpm, maybe not but it finally does. I suspect the server is very busy but nothing tells me that it is, why doesnt the program switch servers if it is busy. This is possible because there are a lot of servers around the world. As you can tell I am flustered. Regards; Hoyt Hoyt: About monitoring your modem: If you are using dialup, and if you connect via kppp, then you can see a graphical display of line activity by clicking on the kppp ditty in the taskbar and selecting Details. (Not the complete authoritative response you need, I know, but it does beat hell out of staring at those lights.) -- cmg Amen! I'm done now but I discovered this on the last 9 updates. Thanks I need all the suggestions. Hoyt -- 17:47:22 up 3 days, 7:48, running Mandrake Linux 9.2, kernel 2.4.22-26mdk on an Intel P4 1.8 Registered Linux user #324360 You are not a fool just because you have done something foolish -- only if the folly of it escapes you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update?
Ignore the past and you will fail Ignore the future and you have already failed. - Original Message - From: David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 22:40 Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update? On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:11:13 -0600 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this thread is about to end I seem to have one more problem. I cannot find the package manager in KDE. What is its name? you mean ark? It's not a package manager in the sense I think you are using, it's an archive viewer. It can look inside RPMs and even install them IIRC. Someone else suggested that maybe I was looking for kpackage. Sounds right but it's not in KDE and neither is mandrake update but it is in gnome. So I used it from gnome, however gnome has problems but I developed a system that works for updates and currently have worked through bug fixes, and normal and working on security. Frankly mandrake update needs to be more robust. It needs too much management. MandrakeUpdate isn't specifically a KDE app but it can be run from a KDE environment (or a gnome, or ther environment too). OK at this point I'm assuming you've set an update source and a new source for 9.2 (you're trying to upgrade to 9.2, right?) To upgrade to 9.2 is really a three stage process, maybe a four step one. 1) use Easy urpmi and select a mirror site for main, contrib, plf, whatever else you like, and follow those directions. You should then have a number of command lines to cut/paste from your browser to your root konsole/terminal, executing these one command at a time. If successful, you will have synthesis/hdlists for each one of as many sites or branches you wish. It may be necessary to repeat one or more of these steps, if there is a connection problem. 2) Actually do the upgrade to 9.2: urpmi --auto-select 3) get coffee/other strong drink (that's why I said a four step process) Tried both coffee calls bathroom other makes me stupid. 4) urpmi kernel (auto-select does not upgrade the kernel. That has to be done separately). 5) (first shalt thou count to 5 ... 1 2 3 5 .. no wait, wrong grp) urpmi --auto-select --update (I think that's right, you want to install now just the updates for 9.2). I finished downloading the sources. What happened to the 39+ MB? They're probably hiding somewhere in /var/lib/urpmi. Thanks for your comments it does help. Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Re: Ready for update?
Title: RE: [newbie] Re: Ready for update? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hoyt Bailey Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 8:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update? Ignore the past and you will fail Ignore the future and you have already failed. - Original Message - From: David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 22:40 Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update? On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:11:13 -0600 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this thread is about to end I seem to have one more problem. I cannot find the package manager in KDE. What is its name? you mean ark? It's not a package manager in the sense I think you are using, it's an archive viewer. It can look inside RPMs and even install them IIRC. Someone else suggested that maybe I was looking for kpackage. Sounds right but it's not in KDE and neither is mandrake update but it is in gnome. So I used it from gnome, however gnome has problems but I developed a system that works for updates and currently have worked through bug fixes, and normal and working on security. Frankly mandrake update needs to be more robust. It needs too much management. MandrakeUpdate isn't specifically a KDE app but it can be run from a KDE environment (or a gnome, or ther environment too). OK at this point I'm assuming you've set an update source and a new source for 9.2 (you're trying to upgrade to 9.2, right?) To upgrade to 9.2 is really a three stage process, maybe a four step one. 1) use Easy urpmi and select a mirror site for main, contrib, plf, whatever else you like, and follow those directions. You should then have a number of command lines to cut/paste from your browser to your root konsole/terminal, executing these one command at a time. If successful, you will have synthesis/hdlists for each one of as many sites or branches you wish. It may be necessary to repeat one or more of these steps, if there is a connection problem. 2) Actually do the upgrade to 9.2: urpmi --auto-select 3) get coffee/other strong drink (that's why I said a four step process) Tried both coffee calls bathroom other makes me stupid. 4) urpmi kernel (auto-select does not upgrade the kernel. That has to be done separately). 5) (first shalt thou count to 5 ... 1 2 3 5 .. no wait, wrong grp) urpmi --auto-select --update (I think that's right, you want to install now just the updates for 9.2). I finished downloading the sources. What happened to the 39+ MB? They're probably hiding somewhere in /var/lib/urpmi. Thanks for your comments it does help. Hoyt In KDE it is in kdenetwork-kpackage as I recall. It is a seperate rpm in KDE 3.1. HTH
Re: [newbie] Re: Ready to update?
Ignore the past and you will fail Ignore the future and you have already failed. - Original Message - From: David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 22:48 Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Ready to update? On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 08:05:29 -0600 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: install. All packages were security packages. Next I tried bug fixes and 11 out of 12 failed to install. Flustered I then selected all bug fixes and(191MB) failed to install very quickly (less than a minute). I called top You were using Mandrake update, right? The slow response might be due to heavy I/O activity, or it could be the sign of large memory consumption. You did mention that the system is not swapping, which of course is a good thing, but depending on what you are trying to do, the underlying engine can require a lot of think time to slog through all the dependencies, comparing what you have on your system. A huge update would maybe take several minutes (or longer) before it came back with actual packages to install/upgrade. IME, I've had more success with urpmi than I ve had with Mandrake update. The latter used to be very greedy for RAM, possibly that's been addressed. I'm using the cpu moniter applet and the modem lights applet to monitor things. The cpu is very inactive hardly works, except when installing a program then it fills the entire monitor. The moden lights indicates that the server is responding and sending information but there are no messages to advise me what is going on (I dont know what message 109 means or 180 17 or etc.). The major problem is that either some program times out and decides that it isnt going to get the rpm and a message appears that tells me that install cant read the sig. Cant open the rpm, which hasnt been downloaded because it quit before downloading. So I click continue and install and maybe it will download the rpm, maybe not but it finally does. I suspect the server is very busy but nothing tells me that it is, why doesnt the program switch servers if it is busy. This is possible because there are a lot of servers around the world. As you can tell I am flustered. Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update?
Ignore the past and you will fail Ignore the future and you have already failed. - Original Message - From: mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 23:33 Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update? David E. Fox wrote: On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:11:13 -0600 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this thread is about to end I seem to have one more problem. I cannot find the package manager in KDE. What is its name? you mean ark? It's not a package manager in the sense I think you are using, it's an archive viewer. It can look inside RPMs and even install them IIRC. MandrakeUpdate isn't specifically a KDE app but it can be run from a KDE environment (or a gnome, or ther environment too). OK at this point I'm assuming you've set an update source and a new source for 9.2 (you're trying to upgrade to 9.2, right?) To upgrade to 9.2 is really a three stage process, maybe a four step one. 1) use Easy urpmi and select a mirror site for main, contrib, plf, whatever else you like, and follow those directions. You should then have a number of command lines to cut/paste from your browser to your root konsole/terminal, executing these one command at a time. If successful, you will have synthesis/hdlists for each one of as many sites or branches you wish. It may be necessary to repeat one or more of these steps, if there is a connection problem. 2) Actually do the upgrade to 9.2: urpmi --auto-select 3) get coffee/other strong drink (that's why I said a four step process) 4) urpmi kernel (auto-select does not upgrade the kernel. That has to be done separately). 5) (first shalt thou count to 5 ... 1 2 3 5 .. no wait, wrong grp) urpmi --auto-select --update (I think that's right, you want to install now just the updates for 9.2). I finished downloading the sources. What happened to the 39+ MB? They're probably hiding somewhere in /var/lib/urpmi. Hoyt /usr/sbin/edit-urpm-media is the sources gui /usr/sbin/rpmdrake-remove is the remove software gui /usr/sbin/rpmdrake is the gui to add software /usr/sbin/MandrakeUpdate is the gui for updates (if you want to use their sources) All of the above must be run as root or su - The gui's run from a terminal kinda helped me learn a little about what was going on. But I agree with David urpmi is the way to go and faster once you get the hang of it. urpmi,urpme,urpmi.update,urpmi.addmedia,etc. I found have some readable documentation for a newbie like me compared some of the man pages :-) Also on the kernel update you could take a look at this artical on the Mandrake site. Its a good idea to edit your lilo.conf to be able to boot to your old kernel in case something goes wrong with the new kernel installation. http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/magic.php Thanks for the info. It should be usefull. Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Ready to update?
On Tuesday 03 February 2004 09:49 am, Hoyt Bailey wrote: snip I'm using the cpu moniter applet and the modem lights applet to monitor things. The cpu is very inactive hardly works, except when installing a program then it fills the entire monitor. The moden lights indicates that the server is responding and sending information but there are no messages to advise me what is going on (I dont know what message 109 means or 180 17 or etc.). The major problem is that either some program times out and decides that it isnt going to get the rpm and a message appears that tells me that install cant read the sig. Cant open the rpm, which hasnt been downloaded because it quit before downloading. So I click continue and install and maybe it will download the rpm, maybe not but it finally does. I suspect the server is very busy but nothing tells me that it is, why doesnt the program switch servers if it is busy. This is possible because there are a lot of servers around the world. As you can tell I am flustered. Regards; Hoyt Hoyt: About monitoring your modem: If you are using dialup, and if you connect via kppp, then you can see a graphical display of line activity by clicking on the kppp ditty in the taskbar and selecting Details. (Not the complete authoritative response you need, I know, but it does beat hell out of staring at those lights.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update?
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:11:13 -0600 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this thread is about to end I seem to have one more problem. I cannot find the package manager in KDE. What is its name? you mean ark? It's not a package manager in the sense I think you are using, it's an archive viewer. It can look inside RPMs and even install them IIRC. MandrakeUpdate isn't specifically a KDE app but it can be run from a KDE environment (or a gnome, or ther environment too). OK at this point I'm assuming you've set an update source and a new source for 9.2 (you're trying to upgrade to 9.2, right?) To upgrade to 9.2 is really a three stage process, maybe a four step one. 1) use Easy urpmi and select a mirror site for main, contrib, plf, whatever else you like, and follow those directions. You should then have a number of command lines to cut/paste from your browser to your root konsole/terminal, executing these one command at a time. If successful, you will have synthesis/hdlists for each one of as many sites or branches you wish. It may be necessary to repeat one or more of these steps, if there is a connection problem. 2) Actually do the upgrade to 9.2: urpmi --auto-select 3) get coffee/other strong drink (that's why I said a four step process) 4) urpmi kernel (auto-select does not upgrade the kernel. That has to be done separately). 5) (first shalt thou count to 5 ... 1 2 3 5 .. no wait, wrong grp) urpmi --auto-select --update (I think that's right, you want to install now just the updates for 9.2). I finished downloading the sources. What happened to the 39+ MB? They're probably hiding somewhere in /var/lib/urpmi. Hoyt -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Ready to update?
On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 08:05:29 -0600 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: install. All packages were security packages. Next I tried bug fixes and 11 out of 12 failed to install. Flustered I then selected all bug fixes and(191MB) failed to install very quickly (less than a minute). I called top You were using Mandrake update, right? The slow response might be due to heavy I/O activity, or it could be the sign of large memory consumption. You did mention that the system is not swapping, which of course is a good thing, but depending on what you are trying to do, the underlying engine can require a lot of think time to slog through all the dependencies, comparing what you have on your system. A huge update would maybe take several minutes (or longer) before it came back with actual packages to install/upgrade. IME, I've had more success with urpmi than I ve had with Mandrake update. The latter used to be very greedy for RAM, possibly that's been addressed. Hoyt -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update?
David E. Fox wrote: On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:11:13 -0600 Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this thread is about to end I seem to have one more problem. I cannot find the package manager in KDE. What is its name? you mean ark? It's not a package manager in the sense I think you are using, it's an archive viewer. It can look inside RPMs and even install them IIRC. MandrakeUpdate isn't specifically a KDE app but it can be run from a KDE environment (or a gnome, or ther environment too). OK at this point I'm assuming you've set an update source and a new source for 9.2 (you're trying to upgrade to 9.2, right?) To upgrade to 9.2 is really a three stage process, maybe a four step one. 1) use Easy urpmi and select a mirror site for main, contrib, plf, whatever else you like, and follow those directions. You should then have a number of command lines to cut/paste from your browser to your root konsole/terminal, executing these one command at a time. If successful, you will have synthesis/hdlists for each one of as many sites or branches you wish. It may be necessary to repeat one or more of these steps, if there is a connection problem. 2) Actually do the upgrade to 9.2: urpmi --auto-select 3) get coffee/other strong drink (that's why I said a four step process) 4) urpmi kernel (auto-select does not upgrade the kernel. That has to be done separately). 5) (first shalt thou count to 5 ... 1 2 3 5 .. no wait, wrong grp) urpmi --auto-select --update (I think that's right, you want to install now just the updates for 9.2). I finished downloading the sources. What happened to the 39+ MB? They're probably hiding somewhere in /var/lib/urpmi. Hoyt /usr/sbin/edit-urpm-media is the sources gui /usr/sbin/rpmdrake-remove is the remove software gui /usr/sbin/rpmdrake is the gui to add software /usr/sbin/MandrakeUpdate is the gui for updates (if you want to use their sources) All of the above must be run as root or su - The gui's run from a terminal kinda helped me learn a little about what was going on. But I agree with David urpmi is the way to go and faster once you get the hang of it. urpmi,urpme,urpmi.update,urpmi.addmedia,etc. I found have some readable documentation for a newbie like me compared some of the man pages :-) Also on the kernel update you could take a look at this artical on the Mandrake site. Its a good idea to edit your lilo.conf to be able to boot to your old kernel in case something goes wrong with the new kernel installation. http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/magic.php -- Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Ready to update?
- Original Message - From: Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:30 Subject: [newbie] Re: Ready to update? I looked around and found configuration, Software Management, Mandrake update in Gnome. Got the list as described and requested the first 12 items in normal. All 12 errored with (couldnt open file). Gnome dosent work well for me. I had to do a master reset to exit due to the system hanging up after logout. Is there a way to do this in KDE or command line? I found a command for command line, but I decided to try gnome again. This time instead of answering no to continue I continued and this time 2 packages installed so I did ran install again and this time 6 packages didnt install. All packages were security packages. Next I tried bug fixes and 11 out of 12 failed to install. Flustered I then selected all bug fixes and (191MB) failed to install very quickly (less than a minute). I called top next and 3 processes were running, X, top, gnome terminal. CPU 4.8%, user 0.3% system 96.3 idle. The reason for running top was that the system is extreemly slow, frequently taking as much as a minute to respond. I felt it likely that this could be the problem. I am running the cpu applet on the console and the cpu is hardly used (very low use) on both KDE and gnome. The only thing I have to compare it to is a 586 however. Also I have yet to see swap used. CPU is athlon 2100+ XP with 512MB of mem. Any ideas? Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: Ready to update?
I looked around and found configuration, Software Management, Mandrake update in Gnome. Got the list as described and requested the first 12 items in normal. All 12 errored with (couldnt open file). Gnome dosent work well for me. I had to do a master reset to exit due to the system hanging up after logout. Is there a way to do this in KDE or command line? Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: Ready for update?
I hope this thread is about to end I seem to have one more problem. I cannot find the package manager in KDE. What is its name? If the package manager is not the right program to use for updates then what is? Please be specific, I'm dense. I finished downloading the sources. What happened to the 39+ MB? Regards; Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update?
On Friday 30 January 2004 06:11 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: I hope this thread is about to end I seem to have one more problem. I cannot find the package manager in KDE. What is its name? If the package manager is not the right program to use for updates then what is? Please be specific, I'm dense. I finished downloading the sources. What happened to the 39+ MB? Regards; Hoyt Hoyt, go to the K panelconfigurationconfigure your desktopgive root passwordSoftware ManagementMandrake update and go from there, it will show you all of the available updates. Tag security, bugfixes, and the ordinary fixes and then you can select what you want to install. The 39+ MB that you downloaded are I believe the header lists so that a comparison can be done of what is newer than what you have on your system. The actual d/l and install will be more than 200MB if you were to choose everything available. Give it a go and let us know how you do. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update?
- Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 20:07 Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Ready for update? On Friday 30 January 2004 06:11 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote: I hope this thread is about to end I seem to have one more problem. I cannot find the package manager in KDE. What is its name? If the package manager is not the right program to use for updates then what is? Please be specific, I'm dense. I finished downloading the sources. What happened to the 39+ MB? Regards; Hoyt Hoyt, go to the K panelconfigurationconfigure your desktopgive root passwordSoftware ManagementMandrake update and go from there, it will show you all of the available updates. Tag security, bugfixes, and the ordinary fixes and then you can select what you want to install. The 39+ MB that you downloaded are I believe the header lists so that a comparison can be done of what is newer than what you have on your system. The actual d/l and install will be more than 200MB if you were to choose everything available. Give it a go and let us know how you do. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Thanks Dennis see you in a few days. Hoyt Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
