Re: [newbie] SoundBlaster 16 in Mandrake 8

2001-08-14 Thread Frans Ketelaars

Linus Drouhard wrote:
> 
> Thanks for helping me.  Someday, I hope this makes sense to me.  Answers to
> your queries are below.
> 
> On Monday 13 August 2001  9:13, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
> > Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > > I can't get midi files to play, except in sndconfig.  See other responses
> > > below.  I don't know what most of this means.  Thanks for your help.
> > >
> > > On Friday 10 August 2001  2:36, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
> > > > "Adams, Jamie" wrote:
> > > > > It seems odd that you are only getting 'snippets' of sound. Is it
> > > > > possible that there is an IRQ or DMA conflict somewhere?
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I think that might well be the case. Btw, we're talking about
> > > > an old ISA SB16, and not the relatively new SB16 PCI I think...
> > >
> > > It's definitely an old ISA card.
> > >
> > > > The Creative Labs names sometimes cause confusion :)
> > > >
> > > > The driver seems to be loaded ('snippets' of sound); check with
> > > > '/sbin/lsmod | grep sb' .
> > >
> > > Here's what I get
> > > sb  7136   1
> > > sb_lib 33120   0  [sb]
> > > uart401 6224   0  [sb_lib]
> > > sound  54256   1  [sb_lib uart401]
> > > soundcore   3504   5  [sb_lib sound]
> > > usb-ohci   14496   0  (unused)
> > > usbcore47248   1  [usb-ohci]
> > >
> > > > Use 'cat /proc/interrupts'
> > >
> > > Here's what I get
> > >CPU0
> > >   0: 288781  XT-PIC  timer
> > >   1:   4523  XT-PIC  keyboard
> > >   2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
> > >   5:  0  XT-PIC  soundblaster
> > >   9:   5973  XT-PIC  usb-ohci, eth0
> > >  12: 216728  XT-PIC  PS/2 Mouse
> > >  14:  20301  XT-PIC  ide0
> > >  15:498  XT-PIC  ide1
> > > NMI:  0
> > > ERR:  0
> > >
> > > and 'cat /proc/dma' to check for IRQ and
> > >
> > > > DMA problems.
> > >
> > > and here's what I get there.
> > >
> > >  1: SoundBlaster8
> > >  4: cascade
> > >  5: SoundBlaster16
> > >
> > > > In your first mail you said: 'The midi track played fine' ,
> > > > referring to 'sndconfig'. Can you now play a midi file ?
> >
> > sb  7136   1
> > sb_lib 33120   0  [sb]
> > uart401 6224   0  [sb_lib]
> > sound  54256   1  [sb_lib uart401]
> > soundcore   3504   5  [sb_lib sound]
> >
> > means the drivers are loaded and
> > 5:  0  XT-PIC  soundblaster
> > means it's using IRQ 5 and the 0 means the driver hasn't
> > received an interrupt yet.
> >
> > What happens when you try 'play some_wave_file.wav' ?
> 
> I don't have a *.wav file on my computer.  I'd track one down and try it,
> but, I'm tired.  If you think that would really help, I'll try it.  In the
> meantime, here's the answers to the rest of your questions.
> >
> > To be complete, what (sound relevant) entries does
> > 'cat /proc/ioports' show?
> 
> -001f : dma1
> 0020-003f : pic1
> 0040-005f : timer
> 0060-006f : keyboard
> 0080-008f : dma page reg
> 00a0-00bf : pic2
> 00c0-00df : dma2
> 00f0-00ff : fpu
> 0170-0177 : ide1
> 01f0-01f7 : ide0
> 0213-0213 : isapnp read
> 0220-022f : soundblaster
> 02f8-02ff : serial(auto)
> 0330-0333 : MPU-401 UART
> 0376-0376 : ide1
> 03c0-03df : vesafb
> 03f6-03f6 : ide0
> 03f8-03ff : serial(auto)
> 0a79-0a79 : isapnp write
> 0cf8-0cff : PCI conf1
> 5c20-5c3f : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M7101 PMU
> d400-d40f : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE
>   d400-d407 : ide0
>   d408-d40f : ide1
> d800-d81f : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS)
>   d800-d81f : ne2k-pci
> 
> >
> > To be more complete  what's in your
> > /etc/modules.conf file?
> 
> pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start
> alias usb-interface usb-ohci
> alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
> alias eth0 ne2k-pci
> alias sound-slot-0 sb
> options sound dmabuf=1
> alias synth0 opl3
> options opl3 io=0x388
> options sb isapnp=1
> 
> >
> > Last question, is your card ISA plug and play?
> 
> Yes, unless that quit working.  I have made sure the Plug & Play OS in the
> BIOS is turned off.

Yes, but that's for PCI.

> I don't know if this is a clue, but my printer has gotten real slow.  5 or 6
> minutes per page.  It slowed down when I started trying to figure out the
> soundcard.  I must've messed something up.  Also, StarOffice is very slow to
> load.  Everything else seems ok.  

How about this: make a backup of /etc/modules.conf to be sure, 
then edit /etc/modules.conf to:

pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start
alias usb-interface usb-ohci
alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
alias eth0 ne2k-pci
# alias sound-slot-0 sb
# options sound dmabuf=1
# alias synth0 opl3
# options opl3 io=0x388
# options sb isapnp=1

If you then reboot the sound stuff should be gone from the system. 
 
> Thanks for all your help.

No problem :

[Fwd: Re: [newbie] SoundBlaster 16 in Mandrake 8]

2001-08-13 Thread Frans Ketelaars

[heh, forgot to send to the list]

Linus Drouhard wrote:
> 
> I can't get midi files to play, except in sndconfig.  See other responses
> below.  I don't know what most of this means.  Thanks for your help.
> 
> On Friday 10 August 2001  2:36, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
> > "Adams, Jamie" wrote:
> > > It seems odd that you are only getting 'snippets' of sound. Is it
> > > possible that there is an IRQ or DMA conflict somewhere?
> >
> > 
> >
> > Yes, I think that might well be the case. Btw, we're talking about
> > an old ISA SB16, and not the relatively new SB16 PCI I think...
> 
> It's definitely an old ISA card.
> >
> > The Creative Labs names sometimes cause confusion :)
> >
> > The driver seems to be loaded ('snippets' of sound); check with
> > '/sbin/lsmod | grep sb' .
> 
> Here's what I get
> sb  7136   1
> sb_lib 33120   0  [sb]
> uart401 6224   0  [sb_lib]
> sound  54256   1  [sb_lib uart401]
> soundcore   3504   5  [sb_lib sound]
> usb-ohci   14496   0  (unused)
> usbcore47248   1  [usb-ohci]
> >
> > Use 'cat /proc/interrupts'
> Here's what I get
>CPU0
>   0: 288781  XT-PIC  timer
>   1:   4523  XT-PIC  keyboard
>   2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
>   5:  0  XT-PIC  soundblaster
>   9:   5973  XT-PIC  usb-ohci, eth0
>  12: 216728  XT-PIC  PS/2 Mouse
>  14:  20301  XT-PIC  ide0
>  15:498  XT-PIC  ide1
> NMI:  0
> ERR:  0
> 
> and 'cat /proc/dma' to check for IRQ and
> > DMA problems.
> 
> and here's what I get there.
> 
>  1: SoundBlaster8
>  4: cascade
>  5: SoundBlaster16
> >
> > In your first mail you said: 'The midi track played fine' ,
> > referring to 'sndconfig'. Can you now play a midi file ?

sb  7136   1
sb_lib 33120   0  [sb]
uart401 6224   0  [sb_lib]
sound  54256   1  [sb_lib uart401]
soundcore   3504   5  [sb_lib sound]

means the drivers are loaded and  
5:  0  XT-PIC  soundblaster
means it's using IRQ 5 and the 0 means the driver hasn't
received an interrupt yet.

What happens when you try 'play some_wave_file.wav' ?

To be complete, what (sound relevant) entries does 
'cat /proc/ioports' show?

To be more complete  what's in your 
/etc/modules.conf file?

Last question, is your card ISA plug and play?

-Frans



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Go to http://.mandrakestore.com



Re: [newbie] SoundBlaster 16 in Mandrake 8

2001-08-13 Thread etharp

I am gonna snip out a lot of this so that it don't get to long to read

On Sunday 12 August 2001 23:10, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> I think we're heading down the wrong path.  
Just the fact we know your video card is agp and not sharing a slot is a big 
help and a good start.


> No, there isn't physical room to put a card in each slot.
Don't be too concerned with "drivers" As I remember it, SB16 loads as a 
module when booting, so reading the /var/log/dmesg file might give some more 
insight as to wheither or not the drivers are loaded, and if no SB16 modules 
are loaded then we know more. 
In order to find out about running services (or servers) if you use KDE, go 
to the "K" button on the menu bar, >  Applications > Monitoring > Process 
Managment, (as long as this was installed when you installed the OS, if not, 
as root, use "top" in a text console). This opens KPM, which should show you 
all the running processes (you might have to scroll thru) this also should 
give a window(graphs) at the top that shows cpu, mem, and swap use. be 
carefull what you kill, (ie; don't kill the Xfont server) but look at all you 
can learn about what is eating your system resources. 
> > just because you did not start them, does not mean you do not have
> > servers running. In Mandrake, servers are running when you start up, by
> > default, as long as you installed them when you installed the OS and have
> > not made sure they do not start at boot and are turned off as you work.
>
> OK.  On this, I have to plead ignorance.  What should I be looking for
> here? To my knowledge I don't have any mail servers running.  I am running
> Samba. Everything else seems to run fine.

 On Wednesday 08 August 2001 11:04, Linus Drouhard wrote:
 > To see if I had Kmix, I went to the menus of installed programs. 
 > I also checked in the Package Manager, didn't find Kmix at all
 > there. I don't know any other way (remember I'm a total newbie to
 > Linux).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can get CD's to play, just not MP3's.  I've not tried any other
> > > > > > audio format.
> > > > > > I'll try what you said,  ALSA was checked to start, but not
> > > > > > running. Right now I'm burning a CD and don't want to kill that
> > > > > > to reboot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks for your help...now to why my printer has gotten really
> > > > > > slow...for another post...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tuesday 07 August 2001  5:31, etharp wrote:
> > > > > > > let me get this straight, you ARE using Mandrake 8.0. you do
> > > > > > > not think you have Kmix on your system. how did you check to
> > > > > > > see if kmix was installed? do you have the available hard drive
> > > > > > > space to install it? do not install more sound drivers (as far
> > > > > > > I rememrber, alsa and OSS conflict, and you may already have
> > > > > > > some conflicting sound problems). in fact, in this case, the
> > > > > > > answer may be as likely to uninstall a sound service as to
> > > > > > > install one. this is a partial quote from a report by someone
> > > > > > > whom knows ALOT more about this stuff than I do.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  "Mandrake Control Center => System => Services and unchecked
> > > > > > > "at boot" for alsa once I noticed that it was checked at boot
> > > > > > > and wasn't running anyway.  Then I opened KDE Control
> > > > > > > Center=>Sound=>Sound Server and made the default the sound
> > > > > > > driver (neither ALSA not autodetect) then logged out an
> > > > > > > rebooted.  Sound was afterwards fine."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Monday 06 August 2001 23:17, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > > > > > > > Ok, I made sure that PNP was turned off in BIOS (already was
> > > > > > > > off).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I tried to find Kmix, don't have it.  I did get CD Player to
> > > > > > > > work. But I cannot get XMMS to work.  It still scrolls the
> > > > > > > > MP3 title and sits there. It (xmms) freezes whenever I try to
> > > > > > > > stop it.  In fact, just about any of the sound applications
> > > > > > > > freeze when I try to exit them. None (but CD Player) work. 
> > > > > > > > Could there be a setting somewhere that has been accidentally
> > > > > > > > switched, effectively killing my card?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm ready to try ALSA, but after spending several long nights
> > > > > > > > with WINE (and then disappointed at the results) several more
> > > > > > > > nights with SANE (didn't get that to work right and gave up,
> > > > > > > > at least for now) and now ALSA, I want something to go easy. 
> > > > > > > > The mini-howto on ALSA is 29 pages and its for kernel 2.2,
> > > > > > > > not the 2.4.3 that comes with Mandrake 8.0. I'm not sure I
> > > > > > > > want to tackle that now.  Please help a newbie in distress.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sunday 05 August 2001  5:21, etharp wrote:
> > > > > > > > > run Kmix and make sure the levels are respectable to hear
> > > > > > > > > (half way) and that in 

Re: [newbie] SoundBlaster 16 in Mandrake 8

2001-08-12 Thread Linus Drouhard

I think we're heading down the wrong path.  I've checked another place in KDE 
and there aren't ANY drivers installed for the Soundblaster!  HardDrake sees 
it incorrectly and won't load the drivers.  I tried manually.  Thanks for 
your patience.

Here are the answers to your questions below.  Maybe something will come up.

On Sunday 12 August 2001  9:22, etharp wrote:
> > Yes, I believe it is in the "shared" slot with the PCI.
>
> but the real question I _meant_ to ask was that there was nothing in the
> other shared slot.

No, there isn't physical room to put a card in each slot.

>
> > > "open KDE Control Center=>Sound=>Sound Server and made the default the
> > > sound driver (neither ALSA nor autodetect) then logged out an
> > > rebooted".
>
> Ok, if it says "neither ALSA nor autodetect" and there is one other choice,
> why would you choose autodetect, since that was part of "neither"? have you
> tried OSS? damn that sounded a little to much like the father in me, I do
> not mean to sound so gruff. Excuse me please.

No problem.  I didn't understand that the sound driver and "Sound I/O Method" 
were the same, since in "KDE System Control" under the "Properties of 
Creative SB16 PnP Audio" there is no driver installed.  I thought I was in 
the wrong screen.
>
> > This part confused me.  I don't have "default sound driver" as an option
> > here.  "Sound I/O Method" is currently set to autodetect.  My only
> > choices are "autodetect", "Open sound system", and "No audio
> > input/output".  I have no other choices.
> >
> > > Might you have some servers or mail checking going on in the forground
> > > that may be using all the CPU resources for a few seconds? what version
> > > of Mandrake are you running?
>
> just because you did not start them, does not mean you do not have servers
> running. In Mandrake, servers are running when you start up, by default, as
> long as you installed them when you installed the OS and have not made sure
> they do not start at boot and are turned off as you work.

OK.  On this, I have to plead ignorance.  What should I be looking for here?  
To my knowledge I don't have any mail servers running.  I am running Samba.  
Everything else seems to run fine.
>
> > I'm running Mandrake 8.0 with the 2.4.3-20mdk kernel.  I've tried this
> > nothing running at all after a fresh boot.
> >
> >
> > I've been poking around some more.  Only part of the soundcard is
> > recognized. The multimedia controller is all that is working.  The other
> > three parts (game controller, midi, and something else) are "reserved"
> > but not operational.  They're listed under the "unknown device class" in
> > the KDE System control center.  The part that is shown as working has NO
> > DRIVER INSTALLED.
> >
> >
> > Thanks for all of your help.
> >
> > > On Thursday 09 August 2001 23:24, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > > > Disabling ASLA on boot had no effect...still no sound.  MP3's won't
> > > > run. Any player I try just sits there.  I push play it sits there.
> > > > Something, maybe unrelated to the sound system itself has got in the
> > > > way??  CD's play from the CD player ok.  I'll keep playing with this,
> > > > but if anyone has any more good ideasThanks
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday 08 August 2001 11:04, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > > > > To see if I had Kmix, I went to the menus of installed programs.  I
> > > > > also checked in the Package Manager, didn't find Kmix at all there.
> > > > > I don't know any other way (remember I'm a total newbie to Linux).
> > > > >
> > > > > I can get CD's to play, just not MP3's.  I've not tried any other
> > > > > audio format.
> > > > > I'll try what you said,  ALSA was checked to start, but not
> > > > > running. Right now I'm burning a CD and don't want to kill that to
> > > > > reboot.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks for your help...now to why my printer has gotten really
> > > > > slow...for another post...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday 07 August 2001  5:31, etharp wrote:
> > > > > > let me get this straight, you ARE using Mandrake 8.0. you do not
> > > > > > think you have Kmix on your system. how did you check to see if
> > > > > > kmix was installed? do you have the available hard drive space to
> > > > > > install it? do not install more sound drivers (as far I
> > > > > > rememrber, alsa and OSS conflict, and you may already have some
> > > > > > conflicting sound problems). in fact, in this case, the answer
> > > > > > may be as likely to uninstall a sound service as to install one.
> > > > > > this is a partial quote from a report by someone whom knows ALOT
> > > > > > more about this stuff than I do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  "Mandrake Control Center => System => Services and unchecked
> > > > > > "at boot" for alsa once I noticed that it was checked at boot and
> > > > > > wasn't running anyway.  Then I opened KDE Control
> > > > > > Center=>Sound=>Sound Server and made the default the sound driver
> > > > > > (neither ALSA not autodetect) then logged o

Re: [newbie] SoundBlaster 16 in Mandrake 8

2001-08-12 Thread etharp


>
> Yes, I believe it is in the "shared" slot with the PCI.
but the real question I _meant_ to ask was that there was nothing in the 
other shared slot.  


> > "open KDE Control Center=>Sound=>Sound Server and made the default the
> > sound driver (neither ALSA nor autodetect) then logged out an rebooted".

Ok, if it says "neither ALSA nor autodetect" and there is one other choice, 
why would you choose autodetect, since that was part of "neither"? have you 
tried OSS? damn that sounded a little to much like the father in me, I do not 
mean to sound so gruff. Excuse me please.
 
> This part confused me.  I don't have "default sound driver" as an option
> here.  "Sound I/O Method" is currently set to autodetect.  My only choices
> are "autodetect", "Open sound system", and "No audio input/output".  I have
> no other choices.

> > Might you have some servers or mail checking going on in the forground
> > that may be using all the CPU resources for a few seconds? what version
> > of Mandrake are you running?

just because you did not start them, does not mean you do not have servers 
running. In Mandrake, servers are running when you start up, by default, as 
long as you installed them when you installed the OS and have not made sure 
they do not start at boot and are turned off as you work.
> I'm running Mandrake 8.0 with the 2.4.3-20mdk kernel.  I've tried this
> nothing running at all after a fresh boot.


> I've been poking around some more.  Only part of the soundcard is
> recognized. The multimedia controller is all that is working.  The other
> three parts (game controller, midi, and something else) are "reserved" but
> not operational.  They're listed under the "unknown device class" in the
> KDE System control center.  The part that is shown as working has NO DRIVER
> INSTALLED.

>
> Thanks for all of your help.
>
> > On Thursday 09 August 2001 23:24, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > > Disabling ASLA on boot had no effect...still no sound.  MP3's won't
> > > run. Any player I try just sits there.  I push play it sits there. 
> > > Something, maybe unrelated to the sound system itself has got in the
> > > way??  CD's play from the CD player ok.  I'll keep playing with this,
> > > but if anyone has any more good ideasThanks
> > >
> > > On Wednesday 08 August 2001 11:04, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > > > To see if I had Kmix, I went to the menus of installed programs.  I
> > > > also checked in the Package Manager, didn't find Kmix at all there. 
> > > > I don't know any other way (remember I'm a total newbie to Linux).
> > > >
> > > > I can get CD's to play, just not MP3's.  I've not tried any other
> > > > audio format.
> > > > I'll try what you said,  ALSA was checked to start, but not running.
> > > > Right now I'm burning a CD and don't want to kill that to reboot.
> > > >
> > > > thanks for your help...now to why my printer has gotten really
> > > > slow...for another post...
> > > >
> > > > On Tuesday 07 August 2001  5:31, etharp wrote:
> > > > > let me get this straight, you ARE using Mandrake 8.0. you do not
> > > > > think you have Kmix on your system. how did you check to see if
> > > > > kmix was installed? do you have the available hard drive space to
> > > > > install it? do not install more sound drivers (as far I rememrber,
> > > > > alsa and OSS conflict, and you may already have some conflicting
> > > > > sound problems). in fact, in this case, the answer may be as likely
> > > > > to uninstall a sound service as to install one. this is a partial
> > > > > quote from a report by someone whom knows ALOT more about this
> > > > > stuff than I do.
> > > > >
> > > > >  "Mandrake Control Center => System => Services and unchecked
> > > > > "at boot" for alsa once I noticed that it was checked at boot and
> > > > > wasn't running anyway.  Then I opened KDE Control
> > > > > Center=>Sound=>Sound Server and made the default the sound driver
> > > > > (neither ALSA not autodetect) then logged out an rebooted.  Sound
> > > > > was afterwards fine."
> > > > >
> > > > > On Monday 06 August 2001 23:17, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > > > > > Ok, I made sure that PNP was turned off in BIOS (already was
> > > > > > off).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tried to find Kmix, don't have it.  I did get CD Player to
> > > > > > work. But I cannot get XMMS to work.  It still scrolls the MP3
> > > > > > title and sits there. It (xmms) freezes whenever I try to stop
> > > > > > it.  In fact, just about any of the sound applications freeze
> > > > > > when I try to exit them. None (but CD Player) work.  Could there
> > > > > > be a setting somewhere that has been accidentally switched,
> > > > > > effectively killing my card?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm ready to try ALSA, but after spending several long nights
> > > > > > with WINE (and then disappointed at the results) several more
> > > > > > nights with SANE (didn't get that to work right and gave up, at
> > > > > > least for now) and now ALSA, I want something to go easy.

Re: [newbie] SoundBlaster 16 in Mandrake 8

2001-08-12 Thread Linus Drouhard

I can't get midi files to play, except in sndconfig.  See other responses 
below.  I don't know what most of this means.  Thanks for your help.

On Friday 10 August 2001  2:36, Frans Ketelaars wrote:
> "Adams, Jamie" wrote:
> > It seems odd that you are only getting 'snippets' of sound. Is it
> > possible that there is an IRQ or DMA conflict somewhere?
>
> 
>
> Yes, I think that might well be the case. Btw, we're talking about
> an old ISA SB16, and not the relatively new SB16 PCI I think...

It's definitely an old ISA card.
>
> The Creative Labs names sometimes cause confusion :)
>
> The driver seems to be loaded ('snippets' of sound); check with
> '/sbin/lsmod | grep sb' .

Here's what I get
sb  7136   1
sb_lib 33120   0  [sb]
uart401 6224   0  [sb_lib]
sound  54256   1  [sb_lib uart401]
soundcore   3504   5  [sb_lib sound]
usb-ohci   14496   0  (unused)
usbcore47248   1  [usb-ohci]
>
> Use 'cat /proc/interrupts' 
Here's what I get
   CPU0
  0: 288781  XT-PIC  timer
  1:   4523  XT-PIC  keyboard
  2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
  5:  0  XT-PIC  soundblaster
  9:   5973  XT-PIC  usb-ohci, eth0
 12: 216728  XT-PIC  PS/2 Mouse
 14:  20301  XT-PIC  ide0
 15:498  XT-PIC  ide1
NMI:  0
ERR:  0

and 'cat /proc/dma' to check for IRQ and
> DMA problems.

and here's what I get there.

 1: SoundBlaster8
 4: cascade
 5: SoundBlaster16
>
> In your first mail you said: 'The midi track played fine' ,
> referring to 'sndconfig'. Can you now play a midi file ?
>
> -Frans




Re: [newbie] SoundBlaster 16 in Mandrake 8

2001-08-12 Thread Linus Drouhard

See my answers to your questions below.

On Friday 10 August 2001  6:05, etharp wrote:
> Soory if we already went over this,  I want to MAKE SURE that plug and pray
> aware OS is set to OFF in bios.

Plug and Play is OFF in the BIOS.

 next is the slot that the card is in. is it
> the slot next to a pci card? 

Yes, I believe it is in the "shared" slot with the PCI.

next, after turning off ALSA at boot, did you
> "open KDE Control Center=>Sound=>Sound Server and made the default the
> sound driver (neither ALSA nor autodetect) then logged out an rebooted".

This part confused me.  I don't have "default sound driver" as an option 
here.  "Sound I/O Method" is currently set to autodetect.  My only choices 
are "autodetect", "Open sound system", and "No audio input/output".  I have 
no other choices.

> Might you have some servers or mail checking going on in the forground that
> may be using all the CPU resources for a few seconds? what version of
> Mandrake are you running?

I'm running Mandrake 8.0 with the 2.4.3-20mdk kernel.  I've tried this 
nothing running at all after a fresh boot.

I've been poking around some more.  Only part of the soundcard is recognized. 
The multimedia controller is all that is working.  The other three parts 
(game controller, midi, and something else) are "reserved" but not 
operational.  They're listed under the "unknown device class" in the KDE 
System control center.  The part that is shown as working has NO DRIVER 
INSTALLED.  

Thanks for all of your help.  



>
> On Thursday 09 August 2001 23:24, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > Disabling ASLA on boot had no effect...still no sound.  MP3's won't run.
> > Any player I try just sits there.  I push play it sits there.  Something,
> > maybe unrelated to the sound system itself has got in the way??  CD's
> > play from the CD player ok.  I'll keep playing with this, but if anyone
> > has any more good ideasThanks
> >
> > On Wednesday 08 August 2001 11:04, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > > To see if I had Kmix, I went to the menus of installed programs.  I
> > > also checked in the Package Manager, didn't find Kmix at all there.  I
> > > don't know any other way (remember I'm a total newbie to Linux).
> > >
> > > I can get CD's to play, just not MP3's.  I've not tried any other audio
> > > format.
> > > I'll try what you said,  ALSA was checked to start, but not running.
> > > Right now I'm burning a CD and don't want to kill that to reboot.
> > >
> > > thanks for your help...now to why my printer has gotten really
> > > slow...for another post...
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 07 August 2001  5:31, etharp wrote:
> > > > let me get this straight, you ARE using Mandrake 8.0. you do not
> > > > think you have Kmix on your system. how did you check to see if kmix
> > > > was installed? do you have the available hard drive space to install
> > > > it? do not install more sound drivers (as far I rememrber, alsa and
> > > > OSS conflict, and you may already have some conflicting sound
> > > > problems). in fact, in this case, the answer may be as likely to
> > > > uninstall a sound service as to install one. this is a partial quote
> > > > from a report by someone whom knows ALOT more about this stuff than I
> > > > do.
> > > >
> > > >  "Mandrake Control Center => System => Services and unchecked
> > > > "at boot" for alsa once I noticed that it was checked at boot and
> > > > wasn't running anyway.  Then I opened KDE Control
> > > > Center=>Sound=>Sound Server and made the default the sound driver
> > > > (neither ALSA not autodetect) then logged out an rebooted.  Sound was
> > > > afterwards fine."
> > > >
> > > > On Monday 06 August 2001 23:17, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > > > > Ok, I made sure that PNP was turned off in BIOS (already was off).
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried to find Kmix, don't have it.  I did get CD Player to work.
> > > > > But I cannot get XMMS to work.  It still scrolls the MP3 title and
> > > > > sits there. It (xmms) freezes whenever I try to stop it.  In fact,
> > > > > just about any of the sound applications freeze when I try to exit
> > > > > them. None (but CD Player) work.  Could there be a setting
> > > > > somewhere that has been accidentally switched, effectively killing
> > > > > my card?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm ready to try ALSA, but after spending several long nights with
> > > > > WINE (and then disappointed at the results) several more nights
> > > > > with SANE (didn't get that to work right and gave up, at least for
> > > > > now) and now ALSA, I want something to go easy.  The mini-howto on
> > > > > ALSA is 29 pages and its for kernel 2.2, not the 2.4.3 that comes
> > > > > with Mandrake 8.0. I'm not sure I want to tackle that now.  Please
> > > > > help a newbie in distress.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sunday 05 August 2001  5:21, etharp wrote:
> > > > > > run Kmix and make sure the levels are respectable to hear (half
> > > > > > way) and that in BIOS,  plug and pray aware OS is set to OFF.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 

Re: [newbie] SoundBlaster 16 in Mandrake 8

2001-08-08 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

Try running aumix. If the command doesn't exist, install the package of the 
same name.

On Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:04, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> To see if I had Kmix, I went to the menus of installed programs.  I also
> checked in the Package Manager, didn't find Kmix at all there.  I don't
> know any other way (remember I'm a total newbie to Linux).
>
> I can get CD's to play, just not MP3's.  I've not tried any other audio
> format.
> I'll try what you said,  ALSA was checked to start, but not running.  Right
> now I'm burning a CD and don't want to kill that to reboot.
>
> thanks for your help...now to why my printer has gotten really slow...for
> another post...
>
> On Tuesday 07 August 2001  5:31, etharp wrote:
> > let me get this straight, you ARE using Mandrake 8.0. you do not think
> > you have Kmix on your system. how did you check to see if kmix was
> > installed? do you have the available hard drive space to install it? do
> > not install more sound drivers (as far I rememrber, alsa and OSS
> > conflict, and you may already have some conflicting sound problems). in
> > fact, in this case, the answer may be as likely to uninstall a sound
> > service as to install one. this is a partial quote from a report by
> > someone whom knows ALOT more about this stuff than I do.
> >
> >  "Mandrake Control Center => System => Services and unchecked
> > "at boot" for alsa once I noticed that it was checked at boot and wasn't
> > running anyway.  Then I opened KDE Control Center=>Sound=>Sound Server
> > and made the default the sound driver (neither ALSA not autodetect) then
> > logged out an rebooted.  Sound was afterwards fine."
> >
> > On Monday 06 August 2001 23:17, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > > Ok, I made sure that PNP was turned off in BIOS (already was off).
> > >
> > > I tried to find Kmix, don't have it.  I did get CD Player to work.  But
> > > I cannot get XMMS to work.  It still scrolls the MP3 title and sits
> > > there. It (xmms) freezes whenever I try to stop it.  In fact, just
> > > about any of the sound applications freeze when I try to exit them. 
> > > None (but CD Player) work.  Could there be a setting somewhere that has
> > > been accidentally switched, effectively killing my card?
> > >
> > > I'm ready to try ALSA, but after spending several long nights with WINE
> > > (and then disappointed at the results) several more nights with SANE
> > > (didn't get that to work right and gave up, at least for now) and now
> > > ALSA, I want something to go easy.  The mini-howto on ALSA is 29 pages
> > > and its for kernel 2.2, not the 2.4.3 that comes with Mandrake 8.0. I'm
> > > not sure I want to tackle that now.  Please help a newbie in distress.
> > >
> > > On Sunday 05 August 2001  5:21, etharp wrote:
> > > > run Kmix and make sure the levels are respectable to hear (half way)
> > > > and that in BIOS,  plug and pray aware OS is set to OFF.
> > > >
> > > > On Sunday 05 August 2001 14:05, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > > > > I have an old Soundblaster 16 that I cannot get to work.  I ran
> > > > > sndconfig and it would play the sample sounds in the configuration
> > > > > routine.  I think that the first test was the word "Hello" but I
> > > > > got a "Hel" sounded like it cutoff. The midi track played fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, I tried configuring it through Harddrake, couldn't fine
> > > > > isapnp.config, or something like that.
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried using it anyway.  CD-player spins away, but no sound.
> > > > > Running an MP3 through XMMS (and other MP3 players) doesn't work
> > > > > either.  The title scrolls by, but the song won't play.  If I slide
> > > > > the progress bar, I get snippets of sound, 1/2 second or so long.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help would be appreciated in setting this "classic" soundcard
> > > > > up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Linus
> > > > >
> > > > > ASUS P5A
> > > > > AMD K6-II 400 @420
> > > > > 128 MB Ram
> > > > > Nvidia TNT2 M64 with 32MB
> > > > > Realtek NIC

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
"There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
-- Jeremy S. Anderson




Re: [newbie] SoundBlaster 16 in Mandrake 8

2001-08-08 Thread Linus Drouhard

To see if I had Kmix, I went to the menus of installed programs.  I also 
checked in the Package Manager, didn't find Kmix at all there.  I don't know 
any other way (remember I'm a total newbie to Linux).

I can get CD's to play, just not MP3's.  I've not tried any other audio 
format.
I'll try what you said,  ALSA was checked to start, but not running.  Right 
now I'm burning a CD and don't want to kill that to reboot. 

thanks for your help...now to why my printer has gotten really slow...for 
another post...


On Tuesday 07 August 2001  5:31, etharp wrote:
> let me get this straight, you ARE using Mandrake 8.0. you do not think you
> have Kmix on your system. how did you check to see if kmix was installed?
> do you have the available hard drive space to install it? do not install
> more sound drivers (as far I rememrber, alsa and OSS conflict, and you may
> already have some conflicting sound problems). in fact, in this case, the
> answer may be as likely to uninstall a sound service as to install one.
> this is a partial quote from a report by someone whom knows ALOT more about
> this stuff than I do.
>
>  "Mandrake Control Center => System => Services and unchecked
> "at boot" for alsa once I noticed that it was checked at boot and wasn't
> running anyway.  Then I opened KDE Control Center=>Sound=>Sound Server
> and made the default the sound driver (neither ALSA not autodetect) then
> logged out an rebooted.  Sound was afterwards fine."
>
> On Monday 06 August 2001 23:17, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > Ok, I made sure that PNP was turned off in BIOS (already was off).
> >
> > I tried to find Kmix, don't have it.  I did get CD Player to work.  But I
> > cannot get XMMS to work.  It still scrolls the MP3 title and sits there.
> > It (xmms) freezes whenever I try to stop it.  In fact, just about any of
> > the sound applications freeze when I try to exit them.  None (but CD
> > Player) work.  Could there be a setting somewhere that has been
> > accidentally switched, effectively killing my card?
> >
> > I'm ready to try ALSA, but after spending several long nights with WINE
> > (and then disappointed at the results) several more nights with SANE
> > (didn't get that to work right and gave up, at least for now) and now
> > ALSA, I want something to go easy.  The mini-howto on ALSA is 29 pages
> > and its for kernel 2.2, not the 2.4.3 that comes with Mandrake 8.0. I'm
> > not sure I want to tackle that now.  Please help a newbie in distress.
> >
> > On Sunday 05 August 2001  5:21, etharp wrote:
> > > run Kmix and make sure the levels are respectable to hear (half way)
> > > and that in BIOS,  plug and pray aware OS is set to OFF.
> > >
> > > On Sunday 05 August 2001 14:05, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > > > I have an old Soundblaster 16 that I cannot get to work.  I ran
> > > > sndconfig and it would play the sample sounds in the configuration
> > > > routine.  I think that the first test was the word "Hello" but I got
> > > > a "Hel" sounded like it cutoff. The midi track played fine.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I tried configuring it through Harddrake, couldn't fine
> > > > isapnp.config, or something like that.
> > > >
> > > > I tried using it anyway.  CD-player spins away, but no sound. 
> > > > Running an MP3 through XMMS (and other MP3 players) doesn't work
> > > > either.  The title scrolls by, but the song won't play.  If I slide
> > > > the progress bar, I get snippets of sound, 1/2 second or so long.
> > > >
> > > > Any help would be appreciated in setting this "classic" soundcard up.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Linus
> > > >
> > > > ASUS P5A
> > > > AMD K6-II 400 @420
> > > > 128 MB Ram
> > > > Nvidia TNT2 M64 with 32MB
> > > > Realtek NIC




Re: [newbie] SoundBlaster 16 in Mandrake 8

2001-08-06 Thread Nicolás Gómez

I had a similar problem that the problem you have..

I installed LM 8.0 with the same soundcard (onboard) and it didn't work in
any way.
In a second stage, I got enlightened and I installed the optional Alsa
drivers that dont come in the primary installation.
After I configured it, the card works properly:=)

I suppose that this could be your problem


- Original Message -
From: "Adams, Jamie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 8:14 AM
Subject: RE: [newbie] SoundBlaster 16 in Mandrake 8


> It seems odd that you are only getting 'snippets' of sound. Is it
> possible that there is an IRQ or DMA conflict somewhere?
>-- Jamie
>
> >--
> >From: etharp[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: 05 August 2001 23:21
> >To: Linus Drouhard; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [newbie] SoundBlaster 16 in Mandrake 8
> >
> >run Kmix and make sure the levels are respectable to hear (half way) and
that
> >in BIOS,  plug and pray aware OS is set to OFF.
> >
> >On Sunday 05 August 2001 14:05, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> >> I have an old Soundblaster 16 that I cannot get to work.  I ran
sndconfig
> >> and it would play the sample sounds in the configuration routine.  I
think
> >> that the first test was the word "Hello" but I got a "Hel" sounded like
it
> >> cutoff. The midi track played fine.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I tried configuring it through Harddrake, couldn't fine
> >> isapnp.config, or something like that.
> >>
> >> I tried using it anyway.  CD-player spins away, but no sound.  Running
an
> >> MP3 through XMMS (and other MP3 players) doesn't work either.  The
title
> >> scrolls by, but the song won't play.  If I slide the progress bar, I
get
> >> snippets of sound, 1/2 second or so long.
> >>
> >> Any help would be appreciated in setting this "classic" soundcard up.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Linus
> >>
> >> ASUS P5A
> >> AMD K6-II 400 @420
> >> 128 MB Ram
> >> Nvidia TNT2 M64 with 32MB
> >> Realtek NIC
> >
> >
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Re: [newbie] SoundBlaster 16 in Mandrake 8

2001-08-05 Thread etharp

run Kmix and make sure the levels are respectable to hear (half way) and that 
in BIOS,  plug and pray aware OS is set to OFF.

On Sunday 05 August 2001 14:05, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> I have an old Soundblaster 16 that I cannot get to work.  I ran sndconfig
> and it would play the sample sounds in the configuration routine.  I think
> that the first test was the word "Hello" but I got a "Hel" sounded like it
> cutoff. The midi track played fine.
>
> Anyway, I tried configuring it through Harddrake, couldn't fine
> isapnp.config, or something like that.
>
> I tried using it anyway.  CD-player spins away, but no sound.  Running an
> MP3 through XMMS (and other MP3 players) doesn't work either.  The title
> scrolls by, but the song won't play.  If I slide the progress bar, I get
> snippets of sound, 1/2 second or so long.
>
> Any help would be appreciated in setting this "classic" soundcard up.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Linus
>
> ASUS P5A
> AMD K6-II 400 @420
> 128 MB Ram
> Nvidia TNT2 M64 with 32MB
> Realtek NIC




[newbie] SoundBlaster 16 in Mandrake 8

2001-08-05 Thread Linus Drouhard

I have an old Soundblaster 16 that I cannot get to work.  I ran sndconfig and 
it would play the sample sounds in the configuration routine.  I think that 
the first test was the word "Hello" but I got a "Hel" sounded like it cutoff. 
 The midi track played fine.

Anyway, I tried configuring it through Harddrake, couldn't fine 
isapnp.config, or something like that.

I tried using it anyway.  CD-player spins away, but no sound.  Running an MP3 
through XMMS (and other MP3 players) doesn't work either.  The title scrolls 
by, but the song won't play.  If I slide the progress bar, I get snippets of 
sound, 1/2 second or so long.

Any help would be appreciated in setting this "classic" soundcard up.

Thanks,

Linus

ASUS P5A
AMD K6-II 400 @420
128 MB Ram
Nvidia TNT2 M64 with 32MB
Realtek NIC