Re: [newbie] Video cards for P I 100 Mhz with 48 Mb RAM
OK. Tnx Franki for giving me a smack around the ears for trying to put a monster graphics card in an old machine. Randy, the main reason is that eventhough I am running 800x600 on a 17 monitor and can see the whole screen perfectly, the full graphics under X do not display of the Mandrake Software Manager i.e. the screen doesn't refresh after closing the 'You have not configured a security update source yet' box. I have managed to locally source an 8 Mb SiS PCI card ordered and I wonder if all SiS cards are Mandrake Linux compatible? I sure as hell hope that this video card will do the job as opposed to replacing the motherboard and processor. The postage on overseas mail and the risk of static on the free card will probably cost more in mail fees than the card I am getting anyway for R350 ~ $41. I don't want to take the card that Gary offered as I don't know its compatibility and don't know if I will upgrade to 8.1 when it is released. Thanks all. Now please just tell me that a 8 Mb SiS pci card is supported under Mandrake 8! Franki wrote: ok, fair enough, but you don't need That flash a vid card to do what you want. Randy Kramer wrote: Tell us more -- I'm just trying to make sure that the problem you have is one that can (and needs to) be solved by a new video card. Gary said: I'll donate.. shane said: Californian video cards go for $5-$15. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video cards for P I 100 Mhz with 48 Mb RAM
Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: Randy, the main reason is that eventhough I am running 800x600 on a 17 monitor and can see the whole screen perfectly, the full graphics under X do not display of the Mandrake Software Manager i.e. the screen doesn't refresh after closing the 'You have not configured a security update source yet' box. I don't quite understand, but that's alright, maybe someone else does and can make a suggestion. Is this during the installation? I have managed to locally source an 8 Mb SiS PCI card ordered and I wonder if all SiS cards are Mandrake Linux compatible? I sure as hell hope that this video card will do the job as opposed to replacing the motherboard and processor. The postage on overseas mail and the risk of static on the free card will probably cost more in mail fees than the card I am getting anyway for R350 ~ $41. I think it depends very much on which SiS card. I've had good luck with SiS 5597/5598 on Mandrake 7.2 (Xfree 3.3.6), I had some problems that I think I can solve (but have not bothered so far) with an SiS 730 on a Mandrake 8.0 beta. (Haven't tried anything since then.) Post the model number here, or check the Xfree site (www.xfree.org) -- somewhere they have lists of which cards are compatible with 3.3.6 and the other versions of xfree. Randy Kramer I don't want to take the card that Gary offered as I don't know its compatibility and don't know if I will upgrade to 8.1 when it is released. Thanks all. Now please just tell me that a 8 Mb SiS pci card is supported under Mandrake 8! Franki wrote: ok, fair enough, but you don't need That flash a vid card to do what you want. Randy Kramer wrote: Tell us more -- I'm just trying to make sure that the problem you have is one that can (and needs to) be solved by a new video card. Gary said: I'll donate.. shane said: Californian video cards go for $5-$15. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Video cards
Am just about to get myself an updated video card. I currently have a Trident Tgui 9440 1 Mb card running on a P I 100 Mhz and it just doesn't cut it in most cases. I am looking at either getting a Geforce 3 or Voodoo 3 32 Mb card and I wonder if there was any preference to either one as I currently have to dual boot between Win95 and Mandrake 8. Which one does mandrake already have the drivers for? etc. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Video cards
ummm, Just my opinion, although I suspect that it will be reflected by others... 1. A P100 will have nowhere near the power to supply a geoforceII or III.,. and if you can aford one, why not update the whole system. 2. I have never seen a PCI geoforce, and Pentium systems never had AGP to my recollection. 3. I am surprised that you don't find the P100 and ram to be the bottleneck as opposed to the video card. 4. Is this a joke? I don't mean to be nasty, but this sounds like a joke.. There is very little benefit in putting a geoforce on a P100, (even were it possible) 5. are you sure this isn't a joke?? :-) From the testing I have seen, you need something like a 800mhz PIII/duron/athlon to get the most from a Geoforce.. the bus/cpu/ram all have to feed the card, and a P100 couldn't do that to any great effect.. get a voodoo banshee or something if you want to inprove your video, don't waste your money on a geoforce... This really feels like a joke ??? rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) Sent: Monday, 24 September 2001 11:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Video cards Am just about to get myself an updated video card. I currently have a Trident Tgui 9440 1 Mb card running on a P I 100 Mhz and it just doesn't cut it in most cases. I am looking at either getting a Geforce 3 or Voodoo 3 32 Mb card and I wonder if there was any preference to either one as I currently have to dual boot between Win95 and Mandrake 8. Which one does mandrake already have the drivers for? etc. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video cards
Franki, wish I was joking. Unfortunately I am unemployed right now and the only machine I have besides a 486 is this P I I got 5 years ago. The software manager is not being displayed completely under this video card and I therefore want to increase my video card. I figured the Voodoo 3 would be a good call but need some advice on the CPU drain on the P I 100 Mhz with 48 Mb of RAM. I cannot afford to buy a new system being out of work so I am looking at increasing the display to the max given the hardware I have. P.S.: A new machine will more than likely set me back R7000 whereas a video card will only be R950 so it is the lesser of the two. 2. I have never seen a PCI geoforce, and Pentium systems never had AGP to my recollection. 3. I am surprised that you don't find the P100 and ram to be the bottleneck as opposed to the video card. 4. Is this a joke? I don't mean to be nasty, but this sounds like a joke.. There is very little benefit in putting a geoforce on a P100, (even were it possible) 5. are you sure this isn't a joke?? :-) From the testing I have seen, you need something like a 800mhz PIII/duron/athlon to get the most from a Geoforce.. the bus/cpu/ram all have to feed the card, and a P100 couldn't do that to any great effect.. get a voodoo banshee or something if you want to inprove your video, don't waste your money on a geoforce... This really feels like a joke ??? rgds Frank Subject: [newbie] Video cards Am just about to get myself an updated video card. I currently have a Trident Tgui 9440 1 Mb card running on a P I 100 Mhz and it just doesn't cut it in most cases. I am looking at either getting a Geforce 3 or Voodoo 3 32 Mb card and I wonder if there was any preference to either one as I currently have to dual boot between Win95 and Mandrake 8. Which one does mandrake already have the drivers for? etc. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Video cards
ok, fair enough, but you don't need That flash a vid card to do what you want.. for alot less then a Voodoo or Nvidia, you can pick up a PCI 8mb with a sys chipset... alot less money and alot better suited to your system There is no point in coupling video cards designed with a 1gig CPU with a 100mhz one, it will probably work worse then your 1mb,, if you can get it working at all... rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2001 2:19 AM To: Linux newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] Video cards Franki, wish I was joking. Unfortunately I am unemployed right now and the only machine I have besides a 486 is this P I I got 5 years ago. The software manager is not being displayed completely under this video card and I therefore want to increase my video card. I figured the Voodoo 3 would be a good call but need some advice on the CPU drain on the P I 100 Mhz with 48 Mb of RAM. I cannot afford to buy a new system being out of work so I am looking at increasing the display to the max given the hardware I have. P.S.: A new machine will more than likely set me back R7000 whereas a video card will only be R950 so it is the lesser of the two. 2. I have never seen a PCI geoforce, and Pentium systems never had AGP to my recollection. 3. I am surprised that you don't find the P100 and ram to be the bottleneck as opposed to the video card. 4. Is this a joke? I don't mean to be nasty, but this sounds like a joke.. There is very little benefit in putting a geoforce on a P100, (even were it possible) 5. are you sure this isn't a joke?? :-) From the testing I have seen, you need something like a 800mhz PIII/duron/athlon to get the most from a Geoforce.. the bus/cpu/ram all have to feed the card, and a P100 couldn't do that to any great effect.. get a voodoo banshee or something if you want to inprove your video, don't waste your money on a geoforce... This really feels like a joke ??? rgds Frank Subject: [newbie] Video cards Am just about to get myself an updated video card. I currently have a Trident Tgui 9440 1 Mb card running on a P I 100 Mhz and it just doesn't cut it in most cases. I am looking at either getting a Geforce 3 or Voodoo 3 32 Mb card and I wonder if there was any preference to either one as I currently have to dual boot between Win95 and Mandrake 8. Which one does mandrake already have the drivers for? etc. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video cards
Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: The software manager is not being displayed completely under this video card and I therefore want to increase my video card. Tell us more -- do you need higher resolution or what? Is the screen display bigger than the CRT so that you have to scroll? I'm just trying to make sure that the problem you have is one that can (and needs to) be solved by a new video card. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video cards
If you like, I'll donate you an older card thats sitting here collecting dust (older Voodoo), as long as you use you're money to buy Power Pack 8.1 when it's release. Email me back if you like to have it. Gary Chisholm MUD Just another Mandrake User ;) On Mon, 2001-09-24 at 14:18, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: Franki, wish I was joking. Unfortunately I am unemployed right now and the only machine I have besides a 486 is this P I I got 5 years ago. The software manager is not being displayed completely under this video card and I therefore want to increase my video card. I figured the Voodoo 3 would be a good call but need some advice on the CPU drain on the P I 100 Mhz with 48 Mb of RAM. I cannot afford to buy a new system being out of work so I am looking at increasing the display to the max given the hardware I have. P.S.: A new machine will more than likely set me back R7000 whereas a video card will only be R950 so it is the lesser of the two. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Video cards
Visionteck and PNY both have GeForce 2 MX400 64 meg PCI cards. I believe Visionteck also has a 32 meg GeForce 2 MX200 PCI card as well. Just my 2 cents. Oh, and a side story, kind of sums up Frank's post. One day several years ago, I walked into a Best Buy. I wanted to ask the customer service desk guys about a possible video card upgrade for a Pentium 60, not to be confused with a Pentium 66 MHz :^) Well one of the guys looked at me like I was a complete moron (which I was as far as computers went, especially hardware) and said I'd look into getting a new computer if I were you . . . Unless you want to speed up Solitaire. So, the moral of the story, save your money for a better box which will most likely include a better video card. Hans N. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Franki Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 1:22 PM 2. I have never seen a PCI geoforce, and Pentium systems never had AGP to my recollection. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Video cards - Radeon
ATI Radeon 32MB DDR is an excellent card but - beware LMD8.0 drivers will have major problems. Solutions have already been on this list but I'm waiting for 8.1 - next week (should work out of the box) At 20:51 17/09/2001 -0400, Charles A Edwards wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Myers Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:07 PM To: Newbie Linux-Mandrake Subject: [newbie] Video cards So, with all the discussion about nVidia cards, what is a good card to run? I am going to upgrade cause my little 4mb ATI Rage doesn't even get tux down the hill. I want a midrange card in the $60 to $100 range. Is there any hope? TIA for any suggestions. -- In that price range I would get the OEM version of the ATI Radeon 32MB DDR. You can pick 1 up from www.newegg.com for $72+$8 SH. That is Cheap for that card. The retail version runs $130+ and everywhere else even the OEM is $100+. Do not be tempted by the Radeon VE it uses a different chip and is not supported at all yet. And the SDR is a lesser version of the DDR. As I said in 1 of my previous post the Radeon will not be fully supported until 8.1 It runs well on either 7.2 or 8.0 but it is great in 8.1 B3. Should you prefer a stop gap solution you can get an OEM ATI Expert 2000, 32MB Rage 128 chipset, from several vendors for between $30-$35. I have this card in 2 systems and it performs very well. In case no one has noticed I have become an ATI fan, especially where Linux is concerned. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. And for too many there are now no tomorrows. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video cards - Radeon
I run the Radeon 64Mb DDR card under Linux-Mandrake 7.2 without incident. Is there any change with winmodem in either 8.0 or 8.1? I would like to just plug and play with my winmodem without having to get a new real modem. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video cards - Radeon
my bet is that until you read about PCTel opening up the source, and that won't happen until after M$ opens their source for the windows9x kernel. (read: NEvEr). I believe it has MUCH less to do with linux and it's development that it does with the DCMA and US law. (we in America are out to make friends and influence people to be our friends, as long as you don't talk about how sloppy our methods of encryption are or try to steal our corporate secrets. heck maybe we could solve the terrorist problem by checking Bin Ladens licenses for M$ products?) On Sunday 23 September 2001 06:43, you wrote: I run the Radeon 64Mb DDR card under Linux-Mandrake 7.2 without incident. Is there any change with winmodem in either 8.0 or 8.1? I would like to just plug and play with my winmodem without having to get a new real modem. you might be pleased with the improvments in getting winmodems to work (but really is not plug and pray), but you might also like the way M$winders runs after you get rid of the PCTel modem and the software that goes with it (not just the driver, but other PCTel stuff loaded at the same time as the driver). Just my experiance. I am sure PCTel MUST have gotten better since I dealt with them, since I have not bought another PCTel or HSP modem in about 4 years, and still have 2 hanging around the house, not in any box, but my personal feelings are that I would NOT give one of these away to an enemy, much less sell it to someone I don't even know on e-bay. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video cards
was just looking at the linux drivers page at nvidia.com .. guess waht they now have a download for the source files for both the kernel and the glx. guess that means they went open source? personally i need to compile the source for my lm8.1rc3...its stuck in text mode - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 3:27 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] Video cards -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:55 PM To: Dennis Myers Cc: Newbie Linux-Mandrake Subject: Re: [newbie] Video cards Hi, I don't know what I am doing different, but I have an nVidia GeForce II on an card made by Asus (I think it is the V7700), and I have ABSOLUTELY no problems with it; in fact, I followed the directions that I found on nVidia's page, and on MUO, and voila, fait accompli! I have nice gfx, can run OpenGL apps beautifully and couldn't be happier with it (which is good, since I bought it very shortly after the GeForce II was released, when it was VERY expensive, and would be FURIOUS if I WAS having difficulties!). Anyways, I was just posting this to let people who are on the market know that the GeForce II DOES work with LM8 (beautifully in fact), and to give hope to those I have seen posting here that they have had difficulties, and have relegated their GeForce II based vid cards to paper weights. As an aside, I did NOT use the drivers that came with LM8, but downloaded them from either nVidia or Asus site (I can't remember). I have both the src.rpm and the rpm, for both the kernel module and the driver, and they are all labelled as being for LM7.2, so what I did is: rpm --rebuild ladida.src.rpm Yes. But the the same will not work if you upgrade to 8.1. Read some of the Cooker post regarding the Nvidia drivers or try running the same card in other distros. I am glad you are happy with your card and congratulate you in being successful in getting the driver to work on your system. But even if they worked in most cases, which they do not, I would still not recommend that card for use in Linux. I do not mind having to configure hardware for it to work but I'll be damned if I am going to have to build drivers for it with no guarrantee that they will work just because the microsoft of the hardware world is too paranoid and such an ahole that they will only release binaries. I consider my GeForceII paperweight an educational tool from which knowledge was obtained and I intend to continue passing that knowledge to others. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. And for too many there are now no tomorrows. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re:[newbie] Video cards
I was looking at the new KyroII cards but I haven't seen much info with regards to compatability, anyone know any different? So, with all the discussion about nVidia cards, what is a good card to run? I am going to upgrade cause my little 4mb ATI Rage doesn't even get tux down the hill. I want a midrange card in the $60 to $100 range. Is there any hope? TIA for any suggestions. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video cards
The concern being that unix systems are dynamic, it is what gives them their strength, what makes them powerful and secure. The availability of code allows for the most powerful systems to integrate togther. Providing static binaries make either the system or the driver unusable in a dynamic environment (something all operating systems are moving towards). Providing source code availabillity of nVidia drivers can only open and expand the use of nVidia drivers and hardware, increasing exponentially the ammount of developmental work produced with and for this hardware, which in turn popularizes its use. -Paul Rodríguez On 18 Sep 2001 10:12:06 -0500, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Monday 17 September 2001 07:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hi, I don't know what I am doing different, but I have an nVidia GeForce II on an card made by Asus (I think it is the V7700), and I have ABSOLUTELY no problems with it; Anyways, I was just posting this to let people who are on the market know that the GeForce II DOES work with LM8 (beautifully in fact), The latest nVidia drivers for LM 8.0 were compiled against kernel 2.4.3-20mdk and Xfree86 4.0.2. If you don't change anything they probly will work. They did for me even with XF-4.1.x. Then as I upgraded to newer kernels, XF versions, and objectprelink'd KDE2.2.1, and other upgrades (basically to LM 8.1) they became completely broken. This is one problem with closed source drivers. You never know when even a minor security or bugfix update will break them, much less other upgrades. There is no way for Mandrake to support them because nVidia refuses to share the source with Linux developers. OTOH, they do submit their driver source to M$. Other problems with closed source drivers are security related, and the added dependence on nVidia to provide future updates. If you want to upgrade to 8.1 when it comes out (it's RC1 right now), you'll most likely break the current nVidia drivers. There's also no guarantee, that future nVidia drivers will work with 8.1. They weren't smart enough to use the current LM 8.0 kernel and XF version. -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA Admiral Yamamoto: I fear that all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve. =_1000826039-7607-4513 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video cards
On Monday 17 September 2001 07:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hi, I don't know what I am doing different, but I have an nVidia GeForce II on an card made by Asus (I think it is the V7700), and I have ABSOLUTELY no problems with it; Anyways, I was just posting this to let people who are on the market know that the GeForce II DOES work with LM8 (beautifully in fact), The latest nVidia drivers for LM 8.0 were compiled against kernel 2.4.3-20mdk and Xfree86 4.0.2. If you don't change anything they probly will work. They did for me even with XF-4.1.x. Then as I upgraded to newer kernels, XF versions, and objectprelink'd KDE2.2.1, and other upgrades (basically to LM 8.1) they became completely broken. This is one problem with closed source drivers. You never know when even a minor security or bugfix update will break them, much less other upgrades. There is no way for Mandrake to support them because nVidia refuses to share the source with Linux developers. OTOH, they do submit their driver source to M$. Other problems with closed source drivers are security related, and the added dependence on nVidia to provide future updates. If you want to upgrade to 8.1 when it comes out (it's RC1 right now), you'll most likely break the current nVidia drivers. There's also no guarantee, that future nVidia drivers will work with 8.1. They weren't smart enough to use the current LM 8.0 kernel and XF version. -- Tom Brinkman Galveston Bay, USA Admiral Yamamoto: I fear that all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Video cards
So, with all the discussion about nVidia cards, what is a good card to run? I am going to upgrade cause my little 4mb ATI Rage doesn't even get tux down the hill. I want a midrange card in the $60 to $100 range. Is there any hope? TIA for any suggestions. -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video cards
Hi, I don't know what I am doing different, but I have an nVidia GeForce II on an card made by Asus (I think it is the V7700), and I have ABSOLUTELY no problems with it; in fact, I followed the directions that I found on nVidia's page, and on MUO, and voila, fait accompli! I have nice gfx, can run OpenGL apps beautifully and couldn't be happier with it (which is good, since I bought it very shortly after the GeForce II was released, when it was VERY expensive, and would be FURIOUS if I WAS having difficulties!). Anyways, I was just posting this to let people who are on the market know that the GeForce II DOES work with LM8 (beautifully in fact), and to give hope to those I have seen posting here that they have had difficulties, and have relegated their GeForce II based vid cards to paper weights. As an aside, I did NOT use the drivers that came with LM8, but downloaded them from either nVidia or Asus site (I can't remember). I have both the src.rpm and the rpm, for both the kernel module and the driver, and they are all labelled as being for LM7.2, so what I did is: rpm --rebuild ladida.src.rpm I hope this is helpful/hopeful for someone. David Charles On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Dennis Myers wrote: So, with all the discussion about nVidia cards, what is a good card to run? I am going to upgrade cause my little 4mb ATI Rage doesn't even get tux down the hill. I want a midrange card in the $60 to $100 range. Is there any hope? TIA for any suggestions. -- Dennis M. registered linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Video cards
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:55 PM To: Dennis Myers Cc: Newbie Linux-Mandrake Subject: Re: [newbie] Video cards Hi, I don't know what I am doing different, but I have an nVidia GeForce II on an card made by Asus (I think it is the V7700), and I have ABSOLUTELY no problems with it; in fact, I followed the directions that I found on nVidia's page, and on MUO, and voila, fait accompli! I have nice gfx, can run OpenGL apps beautifully and couldn't be happier with it (which is good, since I bought it very shortly after the GeForce II was released, when it was VERY expensive, and would be FURIOUS if I WAS having difficulties!). Anyways, I was just posting this to let people who are on the market know that the GeForce II DOES work with LM8 (beautifully in fact), and to give hope to those I have seen posting here that they have had difficulties, and have relegated their GeForce II based vid cards to paper weights. As an aside, I did NOT use the drivers that came with LM8, but downloaded them from either nVidia or Asus site (I can't remember). I have both the src.rpm and the rpm, for both the kernel module and the driver, and they are all labelled as being for LM7.2, so what I did is: rpm --rebuild ladida.src.rpm Yes. But the the same will not work if you upgrade to 8.1. Read some of the Cooker post regarding the Nvidia drivers or try running the same card in other distros. I am glad you are happy with your card and congratulate you in being successful in getting the driver to work on your system. But even if they worked in most cases, which they do not, I would still not recommend that card for use in Linux. I do not mind having to configure hardware for it to work but I'll be damned if I am going to have to build drivers for it with no guarrantee that they will work just because the microsoft of the hardware world is too paranoid and such an ahole that they will only release binaries. I consider my GeForceII paperweight an educational tool from which knowledge was obtained and I intend to continue passing that knowledge to others. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. And for too many there are now no tomorrows. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Cards, any good?
On Saturday 15 September 2001 02:06, Adrian Lynch wrote: I'm about to buy a new video card, either a 3D Prophet 4500 PowerVR KyroII 64MB AGP, or a VIVID! XS Kyro II 32MB AGP. Can anyone tell me what the compatability is like with these and Mandrake 8.0, or a place I can find out? Lovely Jubbly :o) Hey Ho...lets go Absolutely UNSUPPORTED. If it works at all, it will be under a framebuffer or a generic SVGA driver. And it will most certainly not offer any 3D acceleration. It is highly secret and windows drivers have been written but no others. If you want this Kyro or other PowerVR stuff, stick with windows. Got to www.powervr.com and confirm they offer only windows drivers. Go to www.xfree.org and confirm that they offer NO drivers. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Video Cards, any good?
I'm about to buy a new video card, either a 3D Prophet 4500 PowerVR KyroII 64MB AGP, or a VIVID! XS Kyro II 32MB AGP. Can anyone tell me what the compatability is like with these and Mandrake 8.0, or a place I can find out? Lovely Jubbly :o) Hey Ho...lets go Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Cards
"Kelly, Christopher" wrote: So, I'm thinking that the Voodoo maybe my best bet...I found a 5500 AGP for $199 If I might be so bold as to ask, where? ;-) BTW, anyone know anything about the 4500? Its a lower priced alternative to the 5500, but seems to have better hardware stats than the 3000 I'm currently using. I don't think I can use a 5500. Its a very big card, right? I've got a desktop case and the AGP port on my MB is smack dab in the middle, right in front of the floppy drive... ;-( -- /\ DarkLord \/
Re: [newbie] Video Cards
On Friday 01 December 2000 02:06 pm, Kelly, Christopher wrote: Believe it or not, Best Buy "Kelly, Christopher" wrote: So, I'm thinking that the Voodoo maybe my best bet...I found a 5500 AGP $199 If I might be so bold as to ask, where? ;-) Pricewatch has 'em startin at $169. Mwave.com, one of the better online sources is $172. BUT, the reason I answered is I just read yesterday that Voodoo 3 or 5's won't work/aren't compatible (V4's are/will) with mobo's that support Pentium 4 cpu's. It's mandatory, specially in this age of i8whatever and VIA/AMD chipset boards, whateverram to thoro'ly investigate (read, move slowly) the latest and greatest hardware, specially video and sound (JMNSHO). Seems there's problems even with low $$ hardware like the SB Live on the newer motherboards (and some older ones). Also, I feel a need to point out since my recent criticisms of Nvidia an ATI video cards for use with Linux they both get much better reviews than the V4's and V5's in Windoze, and I suspect performance with Linux would be similarly affected. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
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What do you guys think of G-force Video Cards? What do you think the best Video card for a Linux box is? Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775
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On Thursday 30 November 2000 09:40 am, Kelly, Christopher wrote: What do you guys think of G-force Video Cards? What do you think the best Video card for a Linux box is? I don't have one, but I'm prob'ly gonna build a new Tbird- 1000/KT7 box after Christmas, and I haft'a consider a GeForce. I say haft'a since altho the Nvidia GeForce cards are the hands down favorite of the hardware reviewers at present, that's with Winblows. Nvidia is continuely working on providing increased functionality for Linux. There's a large problem tho, they will only release closed source drivers. http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php3?sid=20001115080820 -and- http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php3?sid=20001109025852 I don't play any 3D games in Linux, but I need a good 3d card for FS2000/Winblows (flight sim). I'll prob'ly see how well my current Voodoo3 does with the Tbird, before I give in to the Nvidia/closed source driver situation. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
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Sounds like more trouble than it's worth, Tom. Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775 -Original Message- From: Tom Brinkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 11:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Cards On Thursday 30 November 2000 09:40 am, Kelly, Christopher wrote: What do you guys think of G-force Video Cards? What do you think the best Video card for a Linux box is? I don't have one, but I'm prob'ly gonna build a new Tbird- 1000/KT7 box after Christmas, and I haft'a consider a GeForce. I say haft'a since altho the Nvidia GeForce cards are the hands down favorite of the hardware reviewers at present, that's with Winblows. Nvidia is continuely working on providing increased functionality for Linux. There's a large problem tho, they will only release closed source drivers. http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php3?sid=20001115080820 -and- http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php3?sid=20001109025852 I don't play any 3D games in Linux, but I need a good 3d card for FS2000/Winblows (flight sim). I'll prob'ly see how well my current Voodoo3 does with the Tbird, before I give in to the Nvidia/closed source driver situation. -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
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"Kelly, Christopher" wrote: What do you guys think of G-force Video Cards? What do you think the best Video card for a Linux box is? Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775 i have a guillemot proher ddr geforce. i love it. linux finally loads my gforce driver and it works with my monitors, we dont have even 1.0 drivers yet, but it works great anyway for me at least :)
Re: [newbie] Video Cards - Any Recomendations?
My Matrox G400 works fine... I suggest getting a separate TV Card if you want TV Any suggestions for a good TV Card(cheap)?? MarkP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for a good video card with video-out jacks (don't really need PC TV). I have been longing for a Diamond Viper 550 card for a long time, now, but since I have been toiling with Linux, I have heard some disparaging comments about S3 cards in general not being "Linux Friendly" - Does anyone know if this is true for the Viper 550? If so, what card would you recommend? I need speed - good gaming and 3D performance - I don't have an AGP bus, so it would have to come in PCI flavor - I've been hearing good things about ATI's "All-in-Wonder"... any opinions?
Re: [newbie] Video Cards - Any Recomendations?
Joe, you could always try the various TNT cards that are out there. Most of them will come in PCI and AGP so you should shop around. Wayne At 02:47 PM 5/3/00 -0400, you wrote: The only decent PCI video cards on the market are the 3DFX VooDoo cards but even with those I don't think you can get video out on anything but there AGP cards not on their PCI cards. The Viper 550 and all the ATI cards are AGP. Sorry Charles - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 10:58 AM Subject: [newbie] Video Cards - Any Recomendations? I am looking for a good video card with video-out jacks (don't really need PC TV). I have been longing for a Diamond Viper 550 card for a long time, now, but since I have been toiling with Linux, I have heard some disparaging comments about S3 cards in general not being Linux Friendly - Does anyone know if this is true for the Viper 550? If so, what card would you recommend? I need speed - good gaming and 3D performance - I don't have an AGP bus, so it would have to come in PCI flavor - I've been hearing good things about ATI's All-in-Wonder... any opinions?
[newbie] Video Cards - Any Recomendations?
I am looking for a good video card with video-out jacks (don't really need PC TV). I have been longing for a Diamond Viper 550 card for a long time, now, but since I have been toiling with Linux, I have heard some disparaging comments about S3 cards in general not being "Linux Friendly" - Does anyone know if this is true for the Viper 550? If so, what card would you recommend? I need speed - good gaming and 3D performance - I don't have an AGP bus, so it would have to come in PCI flavor - I've been hearing good things about ATI's "All-in-Wonder"... any opinions?
Re: [newbie] Video Cards - Any Recomendations?
The only decent PCI video cards on the market are the 3DFX VooDoo cards but even with those I don't think you can get video out on anything but there AGP cards not on their PCI cards. The Viper 550 and all the ATI cards are AGP. Sorry Charles - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 10:58 AM Subject: [newbie] Video Cards - Any Recomendations? I am looking for a good video card with video-out jacks (don't really need PC TV). I have been longing for a Diamond Viper 550 card for a long time, now, but since I have been toiling with Linux, I have heard some disparaging comments about S3 cards in general not being "Linux Friendly" - Does anyone know if this is true for the Viper 550? If so, what card would you recommend? I need speed - good gaming and 3D performance - I don't have an AGP bus, so it would have to come in PCI flavor - I've been hearing good things about ATI's "All-in-Wonder"... any opinions?
Re: [newbie] Video Cards - Any Recomendations?
On Wed, 03 May 2000, you wrote: I am looking for a good video card with video-out jacks (don't really need PC TV). I have been longing for a Diamond Viper 550 card for a long time, now, but since I have been toiling with Linux, I have heard some disparaging comments about S3 cards in general not being "Linux Friendly" - Does anyone know if this is true for the Viper 550? If so, what card would you recommend? I need speed - good gaming and 3D performance - I don't have an AGP bus, so it would have to come in PCI flavor - I've been hearing good things about ATI's "All-in-Wonder"... any opinions? Why don't you give a look here? It's (possibly) helpful: http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO.html
Re: [newbie] Video Cards
On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Internet Service Jeremy wrote: I am looking to get a 12 or 16 meg video card. Does anyone know where there is a got unix/linux hardware compatibility site. I am looking for a 12 or 16 meg 2d/3d card, so anyone recommend me get a certain one. Thanks in advance www.xfree86.org -- Aequam memento rebus in arduis servare mentem... Mauro Tortonesi [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ing49.unife.it/keyser Ferrara Linux User Grouphttp://flug.unife.it
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I am looking to get a 12 or 16 meg video card. Does anyone know where there is a got unix/linux hardware compatibility site. I am looking for a 12 or 16 meg 2d/3d card, so anyone recommend me get a certain one. Thanks in advance It depends on what you want to use it for. I'd imagine X? If so, go to the XFree86 site and go look up their driver lists. http://www.xfree86.org/ I'd recommend a RivaTNT based card, myself but it all depends on your budget and application needs. -- -- Kuraiken - Apprentice Codecaster -- Discussions heartily welcomed; Flames generally ignored. --
