Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-29 Thread Margot
yankl wrote:
On Sunday 28 September 2003 07:37 pm, Margot wrote:

yankl wrote:

On Sunday 28 September 2003 06:29 pm, Margot wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 7:38 pm, Margot wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 11:37 pm, Margot wrote:

Dennis Myers wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound,
will you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and
what driver it is using?  Thanks
Anne
I have AC97 on-board running and it uses  snd-via82xx as the
driver Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with
grip, not xmms. Sorry not much help.
Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at
least it recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which
is more than I get from xmms. Still no sound though
In xmms, on the left-hand, barely visible menu panel, right-click
on the + at the top.  Select Play Location, and type in
/mnt/cdrom or whatever yours is called.  Let us know whether that
worked.
Anne
Partial success: it wouldn't take /mnt/cdrom but I had a look at a
helpful page the Derek Jennings suggested on another thread which
suggested that it might be under /dev. That worked, so now xmms
gives me a track listing, and appears to play the CD, but still no
sound.
Aumix and Kmix are both unmuted, but still no sound - someone
suggested I might need to adjust alsamixergui too, but it isn't
working - see attached.
Margot
If you haven't already done so, check out the Install Software list
and install anything that starts with alsa---
Anne
I've now installed everything I could find for alsa, and alsamixergui is
now visible - but I still have no sound.
Have you tryed to run sndconfig again?
Yes. Still the same result - it only finds the SB Live card that I
haven't got (!) and then tells me the card is not supported.
post your /etc/modules.conf


My etc/modules.conf:

probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
probeall usb-interface usb-uhci
alias sound-slot-0 snd-via8233
above snd-via8233 snd-pcm-oss
alias net-pf-4 ipx
alias autofs autofs4

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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-29 Thread Margot
Dennis Myers wrote:
On Sunday 28 September 2003 05:29 pm, Margot wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 7:38 pm, Margot wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 11:37 pm, Margot wrote:

Dennis Myers wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound,
will you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and
what driver it is using?  Thanks
snip

I've now installed everything I could find for alsa, and alsamixergui is
now visible - but I still have no sound.


One last thing on my list and then I am out of ideas, do you have the speaker 
jack plugged into the green recepticle? It is usually closest to the serial 
port pluggin.  Just a thought. HTH

Funny you should ask that .g that's just the sort of thing I might 
forget!

Seriously, maybe someone can help here - I have two speakers, but they 
are connected together, so only one jack. At the back of the PC I have 
two identical green sockets, one above the other, and the speaker jack 
fits both of them.

Every time I've changed something over the last couple of days, I've 
tested it twice - once with the speaker jack plugged in the top socket 
and once plugged in the bottom socket. This has involved a lot of 
crawling around at odd angles and moving the box, which is not a 
particularly good way of spending my time and energy as I have ME.

Can anyone tell me which of the two sockets I should be using? Do I have 
to keep testing both of them until one works? Or are they both connected 
to the same thing inside the box so I'm wasting my time changing it around?

Margot


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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-29 Thread John Richard Smith
Margot wrote:

John Richard Smith wrote:

Thanks. I had to use Del to access the setup (tried all your options 
first, then started working my way through the keyboard until 
something worked!). Have now enabled OnBoard AC97 Audio.

Have checked MCC - now showing two soundcards! The original 
non-existent one, plus VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller using driver 
snd-via8233.

How do I remove the non-existent one from the list and how do I get 
the CD player etc to recognise the real one?


Now we know what chip you have that makes it easier.

I have via8233 sound onboard chip and in /etc/modules.conf it 
installs these lines

above snd-via82xx snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-slot-0 snd-via82xx
just # out any other references to any other sound chip and try the 
above.

Think you may need to reboot.

John

Partial success: Have changed the lines you suggested, and rebooted. 
MCC now still shows two sound cards listed - the VT8233 that I 
actually have, plus the non-existent SB Live! - but now shows them 
both using the same driver!

Still no sound thoughmaybe having a non-existent SB Live on the 
list is confusing things somehow. How do I get rid of it? Surely there 
must be some way to delete it from the list...

Margot


What other lines have you in /etc/modules.conf ?

John

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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-29 Thread Margot
John Richard Smith wrote:
Margot wrote:

John Richard Smith wrote:

Thanks. I had to use Del to access the setup (tried all your options 
first, then started working my way through the keyboard until 
something worked!). Have now enabled OnBoard AC97 Audio.

Have checked MCC - now showing two soundcards! The original 
non-existent one, plus VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller using driver 
snd-via8233.

How do I remove the non-existent one from the list and how do I get 
the CD player etc to recognise the real one?


Now we know what chip you have that makes it easier.

I have via8233 sound onboard chip and in /etc/modules.conf it 
installs these lines

above snd-via82xx snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-slot-0 snd-via82xx
just # out any other references to any other sound chip and try the 
above.

Think you may need to reboot.

John

Partial success: Have changed the lines you suggested, and rebooted. 
MCC now still shows two sound cards listed - the VT8233 that I 
actually have, plus the non-existent SB Live! - but now shows them 
both using the same driver!

Still no sound thoughmaybe having a non-existent SB Live on the 
list is confusing things somehow. How do I get rid of it? Surely there 
must be some way to delete it from the list...

Margot


What other lines have you in /etc/modules.conf ?

John

Here's the whole thing:

probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
probeall usb-interface usb-uhci
alias sound-slot-0 snd-via8233
above snd-via8233 snd-pcm-oss
alias net-pf-4 ipx
alias autofs autofs4
Margot




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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-29 Thread John Richard Smith
Margot wrote:

Dennis Myers wrote:

On Sunday 28 September 2003 05:29 pm, Margot wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 7:38 pm, Margot wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 11:37 pm, Margot wrote:

Dennis Myers wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound,
will you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and
what driver it is using?  Thanks

snip

I've now installed everything I could find for alsa, and 
alsamixergui is
now visible - but I still have no sound.


One last thing on my list and then I am out of ideas, do you have the 
speaker jack plugged into the green recepticle? It is usually closest 
to the serial port pluggin.  Just a thought. HTH

Funny you should ask that .g that's just the sort of thing I 
might forget!

Seriously, maybe someone can help here - I have two speakers, but they 
are connected together, so only one jack. At the back of the PC I have 
two identical green sockets, one above the other, and the speaker jack 
fits both of them.

Every time I've changed something over the last couple of days, I've 
tested it twice - once with the speaker jack plugged in the top socket 
and once plugged in the bottom socket. This has involved a lot of 
crawling around at odd angles and moving the box, which is not a 
particularly good way of spending my time and energy as I have ME.

Can anyone tell me which of the two sockets I should be using? Do I 
have to keep testing both of them until one works? Or are they both 
connected to the same thing inside the box so I'm wasting my time 
changing it around?

Margot



 

On my MSI Mobo it's the above one, but it depends on the manufacturer, 
haven't you got a mobo manual, it's bound to say in there.

However it is looking to me like your whole problem started because your 
bios was not set for auto detection. One thing I have noticed about 
Mandrake installs, is that if you have everything detected in bios it 
seldom fails to not to give you it in the OS. So it made an intelligent 
guess and installed something. Now the problem is, that something is 
retaining the unwanted configuration and that is the setting that is 
dominent.  I thought your modules.conf may still of had something to 
configure that SB card, that  you don't really have, but not being 
familiar with SB cards I cannot say for sure, but it seems like the 
script is OK to me. Now Modules.conf is about settings for devices, it's 
not a list of devices, so to my mind we have to find out what to do to 
remove the SB Card from the list of devices.

Seems to me it's going to end up being a script rewrite somewhere in 
some file containing a list of whatever devices is in there. Question is 
what  file or  ? and how ?



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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-28 Thread Margot
yankl wrote:
On Saturday 27 September 2003 08:15 pm, Margot wrote:

Dennis Myers wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 05:37 pm, Margot wrote:

Dennis Myers wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will you
please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what driver it is
using?  Thanks
Anne
I have AC97 on-board running and it uses  snd-via82xx as the driver
Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with grip, not xmms.
Sorry not much help.
Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at least it
recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which is more than I get

from xmms. Still no sound though

You've told us your driver. What sound card does MCC say you have, and
how did you get it there?
It says my sound card is VIA Technologies VT8233.  I did not have to do
anything, it was autodetected on install. Have you perchance checked the
bios to see if the onboard sound is set to auto and not disabled? Just
fumbling in the dark with that, cause I do not recall if you said you had
made sure it was turned on. HTH
Nobody has mentioned bios yet...how do I check it, and how do I change
it if wrong?
It all depends on the computer you have. 

Warning, it could be dangerous to play with your BIOS, if you do not know what 
specific parameter does do not change it. 

All following is for DESKTOP ONLY, laptop is an other story.

Right after rebooting your PC press on of the following buttons.
Not always true.
F1- IBM; HP
F10 - DELL
ESC - Old Gateway
F2 - PakardBell
Look for a message that say Press some button to access setup
You will get insight BIOS settings. BIOS stands for - basic input output 
system. It's looks like nc or mc. Usually, but not all ways, arrows will move 
you through the system. Usually, but not always, on board sound is turned 
off/on in advance menu under pci devices. It is a good idea to reference 
documentation of your motherboard.   
  
Thanks. I had to use Del to access the setup (tried all your options 
first, then started working my way through the keyboard until something 
worked!). Have now enabled OnBoard AC97 Audio.

Have checked MCC - now showing two soundcards! The original non-existent 
one, plus VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller using driver snd-via8233.

How do I remove the non-existent one from the list and how do I get the 
CD player etc to recognise the real one?


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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 11:37 pm, Margot wrote:
 Dennis Myers wrote:
  On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will
  you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what
  driver it is using?  Thanks
 
 Anne
 
  I have AC97 on-board running and it uses  snd-via82xx as the
  driver Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with
  grip, not xmms. Sorry not much help.

 Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at least
 it recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which is more
 than I get from xmms. Still no sound though

In xmms, on the left-hand, barely visible menu panel, right-click on 
the + at the top.  Select Play Location, and type in /mnt/cdrom or 
whatever yours is called.  Let us know whether that worked.

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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 1:15 am, Margot wrote:
 Nobody has mentioned bios yet...how do I check it, and how do I
 change it if wrong?

During boot-up a message appears at the bottom to hit a specific key 
to access bios settings.  It is usually Delete, but a few boards use 
something different.

There are a number of bioses, so I can't be specific, but you can 
navigate through the options, usually with arrow keys.  The part you 
are looking for will probably be on a page with a name something like 
Peripherals.  If in doubt, take a look at all of them.   Leave alone 
anything that is not obvious.  The on-board peripheral settings 
section will be obvious.  To change them, the method varies between 
boards, but usually entails hitting enter and selecting from a menu.  
You then have to return to the main menu and Save and Exit.  On some 
boards you can F10 to do this, on others you have to step back with 
Esc then navigate to the option.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-28 Thread Beppe
I don't want to say something stupid but if I am not wrong there are 2 OSS 
drivers supporting AC97... they should be VIA82xx and VIA82xx-snd.
Again if I am not wrong, Mandrake starts using the first one and if you switch 
to the second one everything should work fine.
I don't remember how to do it because now I use another distro but you should 
be able to do it from the Mandrake Control Center.
Hope I've been helpful :)

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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-28 Thread yankl
On Sunday 28 September 2003 05:26 am, Margot wrote:
 yankl wrote:
  On Saturday 27 September 2003 08:15 pm, Margot wrote:
 Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Saturday 27 September 2003 05:37 pm, Margot wrote:
 Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will you
 please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what driver it is
 using?  Thanks
 
 Anne
 
 I have AC97 on-board running and it uses  snd-via82xx as the driver
 Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with grip, not
  xmms. Sorry not much help.
 
 Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at least it
 recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which is more than I
  get
 
 from xmms. Still no sound though
 
 You've told us your driver. What sound card does MCC say you have, and
 how did you get it there?
 
 It says my sound card is VIA Technologies VT8233.  I did not have to do
 anything, it was autodetected on install. Have you perchance checked the
 bios to see if the onboard sound is set to auto and not disabled? Just
 fumbling in the dark with that, cause I do not recall if you said you
  had made sure it was turned on. HTH
 
 Nobody has mentioned bios yet...how do I check it, and how do I change
 it if wrong?
 
  It all depends on the computer you have.
 
  Warning, it could be dangerous to play with your BIOS, if you do not know
  what specific parameter does do not change it.
 
  All following is for DESKTOP ONLY, laptop is an other story.
 
  Right after rebooting your PC press on of the following buttons.
  Not always true.
  F1- IBM; HP
  F10 - DELL
  ESC - Old Gateway
  F2 - PakardBell
 
  Look for a message that say Press some button to access setup
  You will get insight BIOS settings. BIOS stands for - basic input output
  system. It's looks like nc or mc. Usually, but not all ways, arrows will
  move you through the system. Usually, but not always, on board sound is
  turned off/on in advance menu under pci devices. It is a good idea to
  reference documentation of your motherboard.

 Thanks. I had to use Del to access the setup (tried all your options
 first, then started working my way through the keyboard until something
 worked!). Have now enabled OnBoard AC97 Audio.

 Have checked MCC - now showing two soundcards! The original non-existent
 one, plus VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller using driver snd-via8233.

 How do I remove the non-existent one from the list and how do I get the
 CD player etc to recognise the real one?

Edit as root /etc/sysconfig/soundcard
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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-28 Thread Margot
yankl wrote:
On Sunday 28 September 2003 05:26 am, Margot wrote:

yankl wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 08:15 pm, Margot wrote:

Dennis Myers wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 05:37 pm, Margot wrote:

Dennis Myers wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will you
please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what driver it is
using?  Thanks
Anne
I have AC97 on-board running and it uses  snd-via82xx as the driver
Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with grip, not
xmms. Sorry not much help.
Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at least it
recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which is more than I
get

from xmms. Still no sound though

You've told us your driver. What sound card does MCC say you have, and
how did you get it there?
It says my sound card is VIA Technologies VT8233.  I did not have to do
anything, it was autodetected on install. Have you perchance checked the
bios to see if the onboard sound is set to auto and not disabled? Just
fumbling in the dark with that, cause I do not recall if you said you
had made sure it was turned on. HTH
Nobody has mentioned bios yet...how do I check it, and how do I change
it if wrong?
It all depends on the computer you have.

Warning, it could be dangerous to play with your BIOS, if you do not know
what specific parameter does do not change it.
All following is for DESKTOP ONLY, laptop is an other story.

Right after rebooting your PC press on of the following buttons.
Not always true.
F1- IBM; HP
F10 - DELL
ESC - Old Gateway
F2 - PakardBell
Look for a message that say Press some button to access setup
You will get insight BIOS settings. BIOS stands for - basic input output
system. It's looks like nc or mc. Usually, but not all ways, arrows will
move you through the system. Usually, but not always, on board sound is
turned off/on in advance menu under pci devices. It is a good idea to
reference documentation of your motherboard.
Thanks. I had to use Del to access the setup (tried all your options
first, then started working my way through the keyboard until something
worked!). Have now enabled OnBoard AC97 Audio.
Have checked MCC - now showing two soundcards! The original non-existent
one, plus VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller using driver snd-via8233.
How do I remove the non-existent one from the list and how do I get the
CD player etc to recognise the real one?


Edit as root /etc/sysconfig/soundcard

No such file on my system (9.0). I've checked all locations. Would it be 
hiding under another name? Or should I create the file? If so, what 
should it contain?


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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-28 Thread John Richard Smith
Margot wrote:

yankl wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 08:15 pm, Margot wrote:

Dennis Myers wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 05:37 pm, Margot wrote:

Dennis Myers wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, 
will you
please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what driver 
it is
using?  Thanks

Anne


I have AC97 on-board running and it uses  snd-via82xx as the driver
Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with grip, not 
xmms.
Sorry not much help.


Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at 
least it
recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which is more than 
I get


from xmms. Still no sound though


You've told us your driver. What sound card does MCC say you have, 
and
how did you get it there?


It says my sound card is VIA Technologies VT8233.  I did not have 
to do
anything, it was autodetected on install. Have you perchance 
checked the
bios to see if the onboard sound is set to auto and not disabled? Just
fumbling in the dark with that, cause I do not recall if you said 
you had
made sure it was turned on. HTH


Nobody has mentioned bios yet...how do I check it, and how do I change
it if wrong?


It all depends on the computer you have.
Warning, it could be dangerous to play with your BIOS, if you do not 
know what specific parameter does do not change it.
All following is for DESKTOP ONLY, laptop is an other story.

Right after rebooting your PC press on of the following buttons.
Not always true.
F1- IBM; HP
F10 - DELL
ESC - Old Gateway
F2 - PakardBell
Look for a message that say Press some button to access setup
You will get insight BIOS settings. BIOS stands for - basic input 
output system. It's looks like nc or mc. Usually, but not all ways, 
arrows will move you through the system. Usually, but not always, on 
board sound is turned off/on in advance menu under pci devices. It is 
a good idea to reference documentation of your motherboard. 


Thanks. I had to use Del to access the setup (tried all your options 
first, then started working my way through the keyboard until 
something worked!). Have now enabled OnBoard AC97 Audio.

Have checked MCC - now showing two soundcards! The original 
non-existent one, plus VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller using driver 
snd-via8233.

How do I remove the non-existent one from the list and how do I get 
the CD player etc to recognise the real one?


Now we know what chip you have that makes it easier.

I have via8233 sound onboard chip and in /etc/modules.conf it installs 
these lines

above snd-via82xx snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-slot-0 snd-via82xx
just # out any other references to any other sound chip and try the above.

Think you may need to reboot.

John

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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-28 Thread Margot
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 11:37 pm, Margot wrote:

Dennis Myers wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will
you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what
driver it is using?  Thanks
Anne
I have AC97 on-board running and it uses  snd-via82xx as the
driver Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with
grip, not xmms. Sorry not much help.
Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at least
it recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which is more
than I get from xmms. Still no sound though
In xmms, on the left-hand, barely visible menu panel, right-click on 
the + at the top.  Select Play Location, and type in /mnt/cdrom or 
whatever yours is called.  Let us know whether that worked.

Anne

Partial success: it wouldn't take /mnt/cdrom but I had a look at a 
helpful page the Derek Jennings suggested on another thread which 
suggested that it might be under /dev. That worked, so now xmms gives me 
a track listing, and appears to play the CD, but still no sound.

Aumix and Kmix are both unmuted, but still no sound - someone suggested 
I might need to adjust alsamixergui too, but it isn't working - see 
attached.

Margot
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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-28 Thread Margot
John Richard Smith wrote:

Thanks. I had to use Del to access the setup (tried all your options 
first, then started working my way through the keyboard until 
something worked!). Have now enabled OnBoard AC97 Audio.

Have checked MCC - now showing two soundcards! The original 
non-existent one, plus VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller using driver 
snd-via8233.

How do I remove the non-existent one from the list and how do I get 
the CD player etc to recognise the real one?


Now we know what chip you have that makes it easier.

I have via8233 sound onboard chip and in /etc/modules.conf it installs 
these lines

above snd-via82xx snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-slot-0 snd-via82xx
just # out any other references to any other sound chip and try the above.

Think you may need to reboot.

John

Partial success: Have changed the lines you suggested, and rebooted. MCC 
now still shows two sound cards listed - the VT8233 that I actually 
have, plus the non-existent SB Live! - but now shows them both using the 
same driver!

Still no sound thoughmaybe having a non-existent SB Live on the list 
is confusing things somehow. How do I get rid of it? Surely there must 
be some way to delete it from the list...

Margot


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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-28 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 7:38 pm, Margot wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 11:37 pm, Margot wrote:
 Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound,
  will you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and
  what driver it is using?  Thanks
 
 Anne
 
 I have AC97 on-board running and it uses  snd-via82xx as the
 driver Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with
 grip, not xmms. Sorry not much help.
 
 Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at
  least it recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which
  is more than I get from xmms. Still no sound though
 
  In xmms, on the left-hand, barely visible menu panel, right-click
  on the + at the top.  Select Play Location, and type in
  /mnt/cdrom or whatever yours is called.  Let us know whether that
  worked.
 
  Anne

 Partial success: it wouldn't take /mnt/cdrom but I had a look at a
 helpful page the Derek Jennings suggested on another thread which
 suggested that it might be under /dev. That worked, so now xmms
 gives me a track listing, and appears to play the CD, but still no
 sound.

 Aumix and Kmix are both unmuted, but still no sound - someone
 suggested I might need to adjust alsamixergui too, but it isn't
 working - see attached.

 Margot

If you haven't already done so, check out the Install Software list 
and install anything that starts with alsa---

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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-28 Thread Margot
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 7:38 pm, Margot wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 11:37 pm, Margot wrote:

Dennis Myers wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound,
will you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and
what driver it is using?  Thanks
Anne
I have AC97 on-board running and it uses  snd-via82xx as the
driver Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with
grip, not xmms. Sorry not much help.
Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at
least it recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which
is more than I get from xmms. Still no sound though
In xmms, on the left-hand, barely visible menu panel, right-click
on the + at the top.  Select Play Location, and type in
/mnt/cdrom or whatever yours is called.  Let us know whether that
worked.
Anne
Partial success: it wouldn't take /mnt/cdrom but I had a look at a
helpful page the Derek Jennings suggested on another thread which
suggested that it might be under /dev. That worked, so now xmms
gives me a track listing, and appears to play the CD, but still no
sound.
Aumix and Kmix are both unmuted, but still no sound - someone
suggested I might need to adjust alsamixergui too, but it isn't
working - see attached.
Margot


If you haven't already done so, check out the Install Software list 
and install anything that starts with alsa---

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I've now installed everything I could find for alsa, and alsamixergui is 
now visible - but I still have no sound.



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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-28 Thread yankl
On Sunday 28 September 2003 07:37 pm, Margot wrote:
 yankl wrote:
  On Sunday 28 September 2003 06:29 pm, Margot wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Sunday 28 Sep 2003 7:38 pm, Margot wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 11:37 pm, Margot wrote:
 Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound,
 will you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and
 what driver it is using?  Thanks
 
 Anne
 
 I have AC97 on-board running and it uses  snd-via82xx as the
 driver Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with
 grip, not xmms. Sorry not much help.
 
 Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at
 least it recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which
 is more than I get from xmms. Still no sound though
 
 In xmms, on the left-hand, barely visible menu panel, right-click
 on the + at the top.  Select Play Location, and type in
 /mnt/cdrom or whatever yours is called.  Let us know whether that
 worked.
 
 Anne
 
 Partial success: it wouldn't take /mnt/cdrom but I had a look at a
 helpful page the Derek Jennings suggested on another thread which
 suggested that it might be under /dev. That worked, so now xmms
 gives me a track listing, and appears to play the CD, but still no
 sound.
 
 Aumix and Kmix are both unmuted, but still no sound - someone
 suggested I might need to adjust alsamixergui too, but it isn't
 working - see attached.
 
 Margot
 
 If you haven't already done so, check out the Install Software list
 and install anything that starts with alsa---
 
 Anne
 
 I've now installed everything I could find for alsa, and alsamixergui is
 now visible - but I still have no sound.
 
  Have you tryed to run sndconfig again?

 Yes. Still the same result - it only finds the SB Live card that I
 haven't got (!) and then tells me the card is not supported.
post your /etc/modules.conf
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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread Charlie M.
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September 27, 2003 01:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will you
 please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what driver it is
 using?  Thanks

 Anne

Hi Anne;

I pasted a whole whack of a pile of stuff to compare for the viewing pleasure 
of the gurus to try to help Margot figure this out.

AC97 is kind of misleading. It's a set of sound server codecs (compression 
decompression instructions) that work with the chipset to handle audio format 
files. They exist even in my SoundBlaster.

There are also various flavours of AC97 instructions depending what year and 
what 'standard' the sound chip was designed in and for.

Bottom line is I think she needs to switch the drivers she's using from 
audigy to emu10k1 (OSS).
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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread John Richard Smith
Anne Wilson wrote:

Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will you 
please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what driver it is 
using?  Thanks

Anne
 

 

Which sound chip ?

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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread yankl
On Saturday 27 September 2003 03:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will you
 please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what driver it is
 using?  Thanks

 Anne
Anne

At some point some one suggest for her to run soundconfig what chipset it 
reported? 
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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 9:55 pm, yankl wrote:
 On Saturday 27 September 2003 03:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
  Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will
  you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what
  driver it is using?  Thanks
 
  Anne

 Anne

 At some point some one suggest for her to run soundconfig what
 chipset it reported?

As far as I know she hasn't managed to find it yet.  I may not be 
installed, but it's not obviously in the packages available.

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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread yankl
On Saturday 27 September 2003 04:58 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 9:55 pm, yankl wrote:
  On Saturday 27 September 2003 03:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
   Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will
   you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what
   driver it is using?  Thanks
  
   Anne
 
  Anne
 
  At some point some one suggest for her to run soundconfig what
  chipset it reported?

 As far as I know she hasn't managed to find it yet.  I may not be
 installed, but it's not obviously in the packages available.

 Anne
Sndconfig could be installed from cd-roms. It better in detection of sound 
cards then sounddrake (sorry mdk). Try to urpmi sndconfig. 
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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread Margot
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 9:55 pm, yankl wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 03:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will
you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what
driver it is using?  Thanks
Anne
Anne

At some point some one suggest for her to run soundconfig what
chipset it reported?


As far as I know she hasn't managed to find it yet.  I may not be 
installed, but it's not obviously in the packages available.

Anne

Have just done urpmi sndconfig, and run sndconfig. Here's the result:

?? PCI Probe Results 
   ??
   ? A PCI sound card was found in  ?
   ? your system. The details are:  ?
   ??
   ?  Model: Creative Labs|SB   ?
   ? Live! (audio)  ?
   ?
? PCI Probe Results ??
? ?
? The Creative Labs|SB Live! (audio)  ?
? is not currently supported. ?
?
Does this help?

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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread yankl
On Saturday 27 September 2003 05:31 pm, Margot wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 9:55 pm, yankl wrote:
 On Saturday 27 September 2003 03:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will
 you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what
 driver it is using?  Thanks
 
 Anne
 
 Anne
 
 At some point some one suggest for her to run soundconfig what
 chipset it reported?
 
  As far as I know she hasn't managed to find it yet.  I may not be
  installed, but it's not obviously in the packages available.
 
  Anne

 Have just done urpmi sndconfig, and run sndconfig. Here's the result:

 ?? PCI Probe Results 
 ??
 ? A PCI sound card was found in  ?
 ? your system. The details are:  ?
 ??
 ?  Model: Creative Labs|SB   ?
 ? Live! (audio)  ?
 ?


 ? PCI Probe Results ??
  ? ?
  ? The Creative Labs|SB Live! (audio)  ?
  ? is not currently supported. ?
  ?

 Does this help?

 Margot
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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread ed tharp
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 17:28, yankl wrote:
 On Saturday 27 September 2003 04:58 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 9:55 pm, yankl wrote:
   On Saturday 27 September 2003 03:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will
you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what
driver it is using?  Thanks
   
Anne
  


has she turned up the vol settings in aumix and alsamixgui
   Anne
  
   At some point some one suggest for her to run soundconfig what
   chipset it reported?
 
  As far as I know she hasn't managed to find it yet.  I may not be
  installed, but it's not obviously in the packages available.
 
  Anne
 Sndconfig could be installed from cd-roms. It better in detection of sound 
 cards then sounddrake (sorry mdk). Try to urpmi sndconfig. 
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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread Margot
yankl wrote:
On Saturday 27 September 2003 05:31 pm, Margot wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 9:55 pm, yankl wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 03:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will
you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what
driver it is using?  Thanks
Anne
Anne

At some point some one suggest for her to run soundconfig what
chipset it reported?
As far as I know she hasn't managed to find it yet.  I may not be
installed, but it's not obviously in the packages available.
Anne
Have just done urpmi sndconfig, and run sndconfig. Here's the result:

?? PCI Probe Results 
   ??
   ? A PCI sound card was found in  ?
   ? your system. The details are:  ?
   ??
   ?  Model: Creative Labs|SB   ?
   ? Live! (audio)  ?
   ?
? PCI Probe Results ??
? ?
? The Creative Labs|SB Live! (audio)  ?
? is not currently supported. ?
?
Does this help?

Margot
Did you heard Linus speaking?

Just a ghostly voice from another thread. people were suggesting I 
looked at sndconfig, I didn't have it, so I wondered if it might be 
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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 10:31 pm, Margot wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 9:55 pm, yankl wrote:
 On Saturday 27 September 2003 03:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound,
  will you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and
  what driver it is using?  Thanks
 
 Anne
 
 Anne
 
 At some point some one suggest for her to run soundconfig what
 chipset it reported?
 
  As far as I know she hasn't managed to find it yet.  I may not be
  installed, but it's not obviously in the packages available.
 
  Anne

 Have just done urpmi sndconfig, and run sndconfig. Here's the
 result:

 ?? PCI Probe Results 
 ??
 ? A PCI sound card was found in  ?
 ? your system. The details are:  ?
 ??
 ?  Model: Creative Labs|SB   ?
 ? Live! (audio)  ?
 ?


 ? PCI Probe Results ??
  ? ?
  ? The Creative Labs|SB Live! (audio)  ?
  ? is not currently supported. ?
  ?

 Does this help?

 Margot

I know for sure that my SBLive! card was recognised when I had 9.0, so 
it doesn't mean what is says - it can't do.

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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread Margot
ed tharp wrote:
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 17:28, yankl wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 04:58 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

On Saturday 27 Sep 2003 9:55 pm, yankl wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 03:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will
you please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what
driver it is using?  Thanks
Anne



has she turned up the vol settings in aumix and alsamixgui

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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread Dennis Myers
On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will you
 please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what driver it is
 using?  Thanks

 Anne
I have AC97 on-board running and it uses  snd-via82xx as the driver
Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with grip, not xmms. Sorry 
not much help. 
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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread Margot
Dennis Myers wrote:
On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will you
please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what driver it is
using?  Thanks
Anne
I have AC97 on-board running and it uses  snd-via82xx as the driver
Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with grip, not xmms. Sorry 
not much help. 

Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at least it 
recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which is more than I get 
from xmms. Still no sound though

You've told us your driver. What sound card does MCC say you have, and 
how did you get it there?


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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread Trevor Rhodes
Anne,

 Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will you
 please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what driver it is
 using?  Thanks

I use the onboard sound for our daughters computer and the setting are as 
follows.  It wouldnt work either till we changed the settings in Aumix.

Vendor: VIA Technologies
Alternative drivers: via82cxxx_audio
Bus: PCI
Bus identification: 1106:3059:1458:a002
Location on the bus: 0:11:5
Description: VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller]
Module: snd-via82xx
Media class: MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO

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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread Dennis Myers
On Saturday 27 September 2003 05:37 pm, Margot wrote:
 Dennis Myers wrote:
  On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will you
 please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what driver it is
 using?  Thanks
 
 Anne
 
  I have AC97 on-board running and it uses  snd-via82xx as the driver
  Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with grip, not xmms.
  Sorry not much help.

 Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at least it
 recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which is more than I get
 from xmms. Still no sound though

 You've told us your driver. What sound card does MCC say you have, and
 how did you get it there?
It says my sound card is VIA Technologies VT8233.  I did not have to do 
anything, it was autodetected on install. Have you perchance checked the bios 
to see if the onboard sound is set to auto and not disabled? Just fumbling in 
the dark with that, cause I do not recall if you said you had made sure it 
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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread Margot
Dennis Myers wrote:
On Saturday 27 September 2003 05:37 pm, Margot wrote:

Dennis Myers wrote:

On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will you
please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what driver it is
using?  Thanks
Anne
I have AC97 on-board running and it uses  snd-via82xx as the driver
Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with grip, not xmms.
Sorry not much help.
Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at least it
recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which is more than I get
from xmms. Still no sound though
You've told us your driver. What sound card does MCC say you have, and
how did you get it there?
It says my sound card is VIA Technologies VT8233.  I did not have to do 
anything, it was autodetected on install. Have you perchance checked the bios 
to see if the onboard sound is set to auto and not disabled? Just fumbling in 
the dark with that, cause I do not recall if you said you had made sure it 
was turned on. HTH


Nobody has mentioned bios yet...how do I check it, and how do I change 
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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread Nigel Wilkinson
I have an AC 97 soundcard on 2 of my boxen and both work fine.
Hardrake reports the following

Soundcard
ICH4 845G/GL Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller

Module
i810_audio

Alternative drivers
snd-intel8x0

Mandrake 9.1 automatically found and configured sound on both boxen without my help. 
Don't know if the above helps at all but good luck

Cheers
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 please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what driver it is 
 using?  Thanks

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Re: [newbie] Who uses AC97?

2003-09-27 Thread yankl
On Saturday 27 September 2003 08:15 pm, Margot wrote:
 Dennis Myers wrote:
  On Saturday 27 September 2003 05:37 pm, Margot wrote:
 Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Saturday 27 September 2003 02:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
 Margot is having a problem.  If you use AC97 on-board sound, will you
 please tell us what HardDrake calls your card, and what driver it is
 using?  Thanks
 
 Anne
 
 I have AC97 on-board running and it uses  snd-via82xx as the driver
 Mine does not work either except I can play the CD with grip, not xmms.
 Sorry not much help.
 
 Might be a route worth following - had a look at grip, and at least it
 recognises the CD and gives me a track listing, which is more than I get
 from xmms. Still no sound though
 
 You've told us your driver. What sound card does MCC say you have, and
 how did you get it there?
 
  It says my sound card is VIA Technologies VT8233.  I did not have to do
  anything, it was autodetected on install. Have you perchance checked the
  bios to see if the onboard sound is set to auto and not disabled? Just
  fumbling in the dark with that, cause I do not recall if you said you had
  made sure it was turned on. HTH

 Nobody has mentioned bios yet...how do I check it, and how do I change
 it if wrong?
It all depends on the computer you have. 

Warning, it could be dangerous to play with your BIOS, if you do not know what 
specific parameter does do not change it. 

All following is for DESKTOP ONLY, laptop is an other story.

Right after rebooting your PC press on of the following buttons.
Not always true.
F1- IBM; HP
F10 - DELL
ESC - Old Gateway
F2 - PakardBell

Look for a message that say Press some button to access setup
You will get insight BIOS settings. BIOS stands for - basic input output 
system. It's looks like nc or mc. Usually, but not all ways, arrows will move 
you through the system. Usually, but not always, on board sound is turned 
off/on in advance menu under pci devices. It is a good idea to reference 
documentation of your motherboard.   
  
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