[newbie] Donation suggestion
I have an HP SureStore T4 tape drive with accompanying SCSI card. I have no use for it and thought there might be an open source project, site, whatever that can get some use out of it. Any suggestions? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Donation suggestion
Mark If you want to you can send it to me and I will throw it in my machine.. Kenneth E. Spress [EMAIL PROTECTED] (586) 945-3801 You Finally Have A Choice In Local Telephone Service Ask Me How. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:56 PM Subject: [newbie] Donation suggestion I have an HP SureStore T4 tape drive with accompanying SCSI card. I have no use for it and thought there might be an open source project, site, whatever that can get some use out of it. Any suggestions? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Donation suggestion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:newbie-owner;linux-mandrake.com wrote: I have an HP SureStore T4 tape drive with accompanying SCSI card. I have no use for it and thought there might be an open source project, site, whatever that can get some use out of it. Any suggestions? Miark Why not donate it to SourceForge.net or FreshMeat.net? 11 07 2002 ____ / \ /| |'-. .\__/ || | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | / \__.`=._) (_ |/ ._/ || |'. `\ | | ;/ / | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| ' `-`' !! !s.m.kuhn! ! kuhn media australia - kma.0catch.com ! !! ! Oh for the wings of any bird, other ! ! than a battery hen... ! !! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] for suggestion
Thanks a lot for your suggestion, Brian and Michael. I am going abroad for conferences since the end of September. I found there is some information useful in http://www.linux-laptop.net. There is a detailed information about how to install linux with WinXP on a 2700. I will consider whether that's suitable for in my case. Thanks agin. Regards Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] for suggestion
Hi There, I bought a Compaq laptop recently and I plan to install Mandrake on it. Is there anyone has experience about installing Mandrake with a pre-installed Windows XP system? Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Wishes, QingHua.
Re: [newbie] for suggestion
Your main problem is gonna be that Compaq laptop. What's the model number? Any 700 series, check my Website in my signature. On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 06:26, qhwang wrote: Hi There, I bought a Compaq laptop recently and I plan to install Mandrake on it. Is there anyone has experience about installing Mandrake with a pre-installed Windows XP system? Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Wishes, QingHua. -- *Michael Notforyou* Registered Linux User #197888 Registered Linux Machine #166780 LINUX ON A COMPAQ PRESARIO 700 SERIES: http://www.quack-net.com/presario/ //42! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] for suggestion
Thank you. I will check your website. My model is Presario 2800. What's your suggestion? Regards, QingHua. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] for suggestion
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 20:26, qhwang wrote: Hi There, I bought a Compaq laptop recently and I plan to install Mandrake on it. Is there anyone has experience about installing Mandrake with a pre-installed Windows XP system? Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Wishes, QingHua. Well the main issue is likely to be making room for Mandrake as the laptop will likely have NTFS installed. Diskdrake can't resize this, so you would either have to reinstall XP on a smaller partition or use a partitioning tool that can resize NTFS. I suspect that Partition Magic can do this. A second hard drive is also possible of course, but that may not be an option. Another possibility is to use a tool like ghost to copy the XP image to another machine, then back again, selecting a smaller partition size. If you are fortunate enough to find that XP is installed on FAT32, then no problem. Diskdrake can resize it during the install. Backup first of course! One caveat on all of this - do you have a way of reinstalling XP from scratch if it fails? i.e. Did you get a restore CD with the system? If the only restore option is from a partition on the hard drive, think twice and then once more before jumping in and make sure you understand the way this works. HTH Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] for suggestion
The 2800 uses an Intel chipset, so my Website won't apply, except the part about ACPI - that will still be necessary. Check http://www.linux-laptop.net. There may be something on the 2800 there. On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 12:37, qhwang wrote: Thank you. I will check your website. My model is Presario 2800. What's your suggestion? Regards, QingHua. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- *Michael Notforyou* Registered Linux User #197888 Registered Linux Machine #166780 LINUX ON A COMPAQ PRESARIO 700 SERIES: http://www.quack-net.com/presario/ //42! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Books suggestion.
Thanks Dennis M, Bill, Michael and Randy Kramer for your valuable suggestions about books and links for newbies. ( list is summarised below). Fortunatelly, we can count on this list. Best regards. Filipe Dutra [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Sam's Teach yourself Linux-Mandrake Running Linux by O'Reilly publishing. Linux: The complete reference from Osborne. Online suggestions. http://rute.sourceforge.net/ http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/index.html http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/fdoc.php3 http://www.mandrakecampus.com http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/LinuxResources http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/doc/82/en/ref.html/foreword.html = At 22:22 2/7/2002 -0300, you wrote: Dear experts Could you give me a little help answering the add below ??? (It can interest others newbies) Linux home-user (not IT professional but above dummy in computer level), myself, that recently installed Mandrake 8.2 (2 cds pack), with no time for formal course, with some initial difficulty, looks for: an excellent book (just one) of Linux with home-user approach, in style: step-by-step / self-study,based on Redhat or Mandrake preferably (if it is important), updated version, covering the basic topics from: linux installation, soft installation/upgrade; use of utilities (backup, anti-virus, firewall), hard/drivers upgradeuntil setting home network (at most), for learn and reference use. Thanks a lot in an advance Filipe Dutra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Books suggestion.
This is a list of resources that I've found. http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/LinuxResources I haven't tried all of them. Most recently, I refound the Mandrake 8.2 Reference Manual (http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/doc/82/en/ref.html/foreword.html) and it looks like it's worth a read. (It may not have worked for me as a rank newbie.) Randy Kramer On Tue, 02 Jul 2002 22:22:29 -0300 Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you give me a little help answering the add below ??? (It can interest others newbies) Linux home-user (not IT professional but above dummy in computer level), myself, that recently installed Mandrake 8.2 (2 cd's pack), with no time for formal course, with some initial difficulty, looks for: an excellent book (just one) of Linux with home-user approach, in style: step-by-step / self-study,based on Redhat or Mandrake preferably (if it is important), updated version, covering the basic topics from: linux installation, soft installation/upgrade; use of utilities (backup, anti-virus, firewall), hard/drivers upgradeuntil setting home network (at most), for learn and reference use. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Books suggestion.
Dear experts Could you give me a little help answering the add below ??? (It can interest others newbies) Linux home-user (not IT professional but above dummy in computer level), myself, that recently installed Mandrake 8.2 (2 cds pack), with no time for formal course, with some initial difficulty, looks for: an excellent book (just one) of Linux with home-user approach, in style: step-by-step / self-study,based on Redhat or Mandrake preferably (if it is important), updated version, covering the basic topics from: linux installation, soft installation/upgrade; use of utilities (backup, anti-virus, firewall), hard/drivers upgradeuntil setting home network (at most), for learn and reference use. Thanks a lot in an advance Filipe Dutra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Books suggestion.
On Tuesday 02 July 2002 09:22 pm, you wrote: Dear experts Could you give me a little help answering the add below ??? (It can interest others newbies) Linux home-user (not IT professional but above dummy in computer level), myself, that recently installed Mandrake 8.2 (2 cd's pack), with no time for formal course, with some initial difficulty, looks for: an excellent book (just one) of Linux with home-user approach, in style: step-by-step / self-study,based on Redhat or Mandrake preferably (if it is important), updated version, covering the basic topics from: linux installation, soft installation/upgrade; use of utilities (backup, anti-virus, firewall), hard/drivers upgradeuntil setting home network (at most), for learn and reference use. Thanks a lot in an advance Filipe Dutra [EMAIL PROTECTED] A book called Sam's Teach yourself Linux-Mandrake is not bad for starters. Then I would get Running Linux by O'Reilly publishing. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Books suggestion.
On Tue, 02 Jul 2002 22:22:29 -0300 Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear experts Could you give me a little help answering the add below ??? (It can interest others newbies) Linux home-user (not IT professional but above dummy in computer level), myself, that recently installed Mandrake 8.2 (2 cd's pack), with no time for formal course, with some initial difficulty, looks for: an excellent book (just one) of Linux with home-user approach, in style: step-by-step / self-study,based on Redhat or Mandrake preferably (if it is important), updated version, covering the basic topics from: linux installation, soft installation/upgrade; use of utilities (backup, anti-virus, firewall), hard/drivers upgradeuntil setting home network (at most), for learn and reference use. Linux: The complete reference is good. It's from Osborne. It's based on Redhat7.0 and Caldera2.4. It's still got a lot of relevant information. HTH. Bill Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Books suggestion.
On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 13:27, Dennis Myers wrote: On Tuesday 02 July 2002 09:22 pm, you wrote: Dear experts Could you give me a little help answering the add below ??? (It can interest others newbies) Linux home-user (not IT professional but above dummy in computer level), myself, that recently installed Mandrake 8.2 (2 cd's pack), with no time for formal course, with some initial difficulty, looks for: an excellent book (just one) of Linux with home-user approach, in style: step-by-step / self-study,based on Redhat or Mandrake preferably (if it is important), updated version, covering the basic topics from: linux installation, soft installation/upgrade; use of utilities (backup, anti-virus, firewall), hard/drivers upgradeuntil setting home network (at most), for learn and reference use. Thanks a lot in an advance Filipe Dutra [EMAIL PROTECTED] A book called Sam's Teach yourself Linux-Mandrake is not bad for starters. Then I would get Running Linux by O'Reilly publishing. HTH Online suggestions. http://rute.sourceforge.net/ http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/index.html http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/fdoc.php3 http://www.mandrakecampus.com The fdoc.php3 site is the home for the two Mandrake manuals for your distro. The campus site is a free online learning course, log in and give it a whirl. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system
Just from the 'specs', not much. On paper the only real diference between a low-end 'server' and a desktop would probabally be that the Server will generally have a higher-output power supply. The main difference is the quality of the components and construction. 'server grade' hardware is designed and warranted for 24x7 operation (even for a low-end server like the PowerEdge 500SC or Proliant ML330) Another benefit for 'server-grade' hardware, although it isn't quite as relevant for Linux as it is for NetWare/SCO UNIX/ect. (and for a lesser extent, Windows NT/2000 Server) is that they are generally certified for use with the various operating systems. The main benefit of this is that if you have a problem on your Dell/Compaq/IBM/etc 'Server' and call up the vendor for tech support you are likely to get an aswer like 'Yeah, there is a known problem with the BIOS revision on some units on that model, go to the vendor's web site and download file xx and everything should work fine once you apply the update' whereas if you had used a 'desktop' computer the response (probabally from both the OS and hardware vendor) would be 'The only operating systems supported on that model are Windows 98/ME/NT4.0 Workstation...'. -Original Message- From: Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 16 Nov 2001 16:34:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system What exactly differentiates server grade hardware and desktop grade? I ask this because checking out some Dell servers (just above the price range for this project, but wrangleable) they seem to be pretty much the same hardware I would find in a desktop computer. IDE drives for example, and not even ATA/100/133 RAID. -Paul Rodríguez On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 13:55, Jim Dawson wrote: My only recomendation is to use 'server grade' hardware. 'Desktop' grade computers are not designed to run 24/7. Unfortunately I don't know of any server-grade computers that use AMD processors. If possible go with a SCSI disk subsystem rather than IDE. IDE drives are made for the desktop market and are generally not designed for 24x7 operation. If you can afford it get a RAID controller (even if you are just mirroring, a RAID controller can handle mirroring much better than the server itself.) and hot swappable drives. it is also a good idea to have redundant (and if possible hot swappable) power supplies and cooling fans. On Fri, 2001-11-16 at 12:24, Paul Schwebel wrote: Tell your doctor that Data reliability and cheap don't go together. He/she will have to choose. Mirrored drives, along with daily backups will give you some reliability. They don't necessarily have to be hot swappable, unless downtime is not an option. I have run both Compaq and Dell servers in a public school environment (Netware, not Linux). I prefer the Dells. My .02, -Paul Schwebel, Lab Facilitator San Dieguito Union High School District _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system
Tell your doctor that Data reliability and cheap don't go together. He/she will have to choose. Mirrored drives, along with daily backups will give you some reliability. They don't necessarily have to be hot swappable, unless downtime is not an option. I have run both Compaq and Dell servers in a public school environment (Netware, not Linux). I prefer the Dells. My .02, -Paul Schwebel, Lab Facilitator San Dieguito Union High School District --- Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Jim. Your reccomendations have been very helpful. I've been going over several options over the last few days. I'm afraid server grade components seem to be outside the price range of this environment. The doctor is looking for components in the $500 range. That being said, I'd like to know more about hot-swappable drives. Because of the importance of data reliability, I will definately be going for a RAID setup, probably just mirroring as you said. And because of price considerations I'm currently leaning towards integrated motherboard RAID controllers. Having never used removable hard drives, I need to ask whether or not this needs to be integrated into the case or can be added to later. snip Subject: [newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system I am building a system for the doctor's private practice. Stabillity is the number one concern. We will have windows and linux running on separate hard drives untill we can tansition the database to Linux, after which, I'd like to have a RAID system for increased data reliabillity. Do you have any suggestions on hardware I should be looking for or staying away from? I'd like to use an AMD chip. Are there any special considerations for having a mroe reliable system? -Paul Rodríguez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com =_1005591342-1851-1811 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Re: [newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system
Over the last few days I've been in a similar position, I needed to put together specifications on a new NetWare server for a very cost-conscious customer, so I learned quite a bit about ATA RAID and tape drives in a short amount of time. (Unfortunately I found that alghough ATA RAID is supported in NetWare 5.x but isn't quite mature enough to use on a production server yet, and although some people claim to have got IDE tape drives to work it doesn't seem to be officially supported.) You might want to take a look at the Dell PowerEdge 500C, the IBM x-Series 200 and Compaq Proliant ML330. All are 'Entry Level' servers which use IDE drives. The Compaq and IBM even have a 2-channel IDE RAID controller. As long as you are using Dell/Compaq/IBM's drives reliability shouldn't be a problem. Performance will not be at the level of SCSI drives however. Neither support hot swap IDE drives, but the Compaq can be adapted to support hot swap SCSI cards. (but it's a rather pricey option. You would probabally be better off buying a model that comes with a hot-swap cage.) If you build the server from components, Adaptec's ATA RAID 2400 controller does support hot swap IDE drives. I might be willing to try one of these in a Dell server, but as a rule you should never plug anything into a Compaq box that doesn't come from Compaq. However IMHO if the application is mission-critical enough to require hot-swap drives it's usually important enough to justify the expense of a good SCSI RAID controller, hot swap chassis and drives, redundant hot swap power supplies, redundant hot swap fans, etc. As far as the OS supporting hot-swapping in a (redundant) RAID configuration, if you are using hardware RAID the OS isn't even aware that it's a RAID configuration. As long as you have enough drives for the controller to reconstruct the data on the disks the OS may not even be aware that the drive has been removed or replaced. (NOTE: I have never actually used hardware RAID on a Linux box, my RAID experience has been with Windows and NetWare.) -Original Message- From: Paul RodrÃguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 15 Nov 2001 19:56:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system Thanks, Jim. Your reccomendations have been very helpful. I've been going over several options over the last few days. I'm afraid server grade components seem to be outside the price range of this environment. The doctor is looking for components in the $500 range. That being said, I'd like to know more about hot-swappable drives. Because of the importance of data reliability, I will definately be going for a RAID setup, probably just mirroring as you said. And because of price considerations I'm currently leaning towards integrated motherboard RAID controllers. Having never used removable hard drives, I need to ask whether or not this needs to be integrated into the case or can be added to later. My main concern about the RAID setup is many mixed reports regarding RAID and various controllers and Linux. Also, having a RAID 1 setup with removable drive cages on a Linux server/workstation, are the hard drives truley hot-swappable? Thanks for your help, Jim, Rog, and everybody on the list. -Paul RodrÃguez On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 13:55, Jim Dawson wrote: My only recomendation is to use 'server grade' hardware. 'Desktop' grade computers are not designed to run 24/7. Unfortunately I don't know of any server-grade computers that use AMD processors. If possible go with a SCSI disk subsystem rather than IDE. IDE drives are made for the desktop market and are generally not designed for 24x7 operation. If you can afford it get a RAID controller (even if you are just mirroring, a RAID controller can handle mirroring much better than the server itself.) and hot swappable drives. it is also a good idea to have redundant (and if possible hot swappable) power supplies and cooling fans. Compaq and IBM both sell very Linux-friendly server lines. Dell and (I think) HP also support Linux on their server products. I personally would recommend the Compaq Proliant line. -Original Message- From: Paul RodrÃguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10 Nov 2001 17:02:19 -0500 Subject: [newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system I am building a system for the doctor's private practice. Stabillity is the number one concern. We will have windows and linux running on separate hard drives untill we can tansition the database to Linux,dõ3E after which, I'd like to have a RAID system for increased data reliabillity. Do you have any suggestions on hardware I should be looking for or staying away from? I'd like to use an AMD chip. Are there any special considerations for having a mroe reliable system? -Paul RodrÃguez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address
Re: [newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system
What exactly differentiates server grade hardware and desktop grade? I ask this because checking out some Dell servers (just above the price range for this project, but wrangleable) they seem to be pretty much the same hardware I would find in a desktop computer. IDE drives for example, and not even ATA/100/133 RAID. -Paul Rodríguez On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 13:55, Jim Dawson wrote: My only recomendation is to use 'server grade' hardware. 'Desktop' grade computers are not designed to run 24/7. Unfortunately I don't know of any server-grade computers that use AMD processors. If possible go with a SCSI disk subsystem rather than IDE. IDE drives are made for the desktop market and are generally not designed for 24x7 operation. If you can afford it get a RAID controller (even if you are just mirroring, a RAID controller can handle mirroring much better than the server itself.) and hot swappable drives. it is also a good idea to have redundant (and if possible hot swappable) power supplies and cooling fans. On Fri, 2001-11-16 at 12:24, Paul Schwebel wrote: Tell your doctor that Data reliability and cheap don't go together. He/she will have to choose. Mirrored drives, along with daily backups will give you some reliability. They don't necessarily have to be hot swappable, unless downtime is not an option. I have run both Compaq and Dell servers in a public school environment (Netware, not Linux). I prefer the Dells. My .02, -Paul Schwebel, Lab Facilitator San Dieguito Union High School District _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system
I'm sure there are many opinions about this, and what Dell calls a 'server' and what I think of as server components may not be the same, AND there are esoteric hardware distinctions that I do not know. Servers are optimized for speed and fault-tolerance. This means considering the type of processor, the chipset that controls data throughput on the motherboard, the hard drive sytem, and the LAN card. In general, a server box will have SCSI internals for its hard drives. It will have redundant power supplies. It will run a full-blown microprocessor (Pentium vs. Celeron, for example). It will have one, or better, two NICS at a minimum of 100Mbps (Dell is shipping servers with Gb Ethernet on the motherboard). Now, here's where my knowledge gets spotty. Motherboards. Some motheboards/chipsets are more efficient at moving data to and from the processor. Also, different types of memory are more robust/faster. A RAID 5 array (you need 3 hard drives, minimum) will give you better performance than simple mirroring, as well as uninterrupted fault-tolerance if one drive fails. -Paul Schwebel, Lab Facilitator San Dieguito Union High School District --- Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What exactly differentiates server grade hardware and desktop grade? I ask this because checking out some Dell servers (just above the price range for this project, but wrangleable) they seem to be pretty much the same hardware I would find in a desktop computer. IDE drives for example, and not even ATA/100/133 RAID. -Paul Rodríguez On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 13:55, Jim Dawson wrote: My only recomendation is to use 'server grade' hardware. 'Desktop' grade computers are not designed to run 24/7. Unfortunately I don't know of any server-grade computers that use AMD processors. snip __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system
Thanks, Jim. Your reccomendations have been very helpful. I've been going over several options over the last few days. I'm afraid server grade components seem to be outside the price range of this environment. The doctor is looking for components in the $500 range. That being said, I'd like to know more about hot-swappable drives. Because of the importance of data reliability, I will definately be going for a RAID setup, probably just mirroring as you said. And because of price considerations I'm currently leaning towards integrated motherboard RAID controllers. Having never used removable hard drives, I need to ask whether or not this needs to be integrated into the case or can be added to later. My main concern about the RAID setup is many mixed reports regarding RAID and various controllers and Linux. Also, having a RAID 1 setup with removable drive cages on a Linux server/workstation, are the hard drives truley hot-swappable? Thanks for your help, Jim, Rog, and everybody on the list. -Paul Rodríguez On Mon, 2001-11-12 at 13:55, Jim Dawson wrote: My only recomendation is to use 'server grade' hardware. 'Desktop' grade computers are not designed to run 24/7. Unfortunately I don't know of any server-grade computers that use AMD processors. If possible go with a SCSI disk subsystem rather than IDE. IDE drives are made for the desktop market and are generally not designed for 24x7 operation. If you can afford it get a RAID controller (even if you are just mirroring, a RAID controller can handle mirroring much better than the server itself.) and hot swappable drives. it is also a good idea to have redundant (and if possible hot swappable) power supplies and cooling fans. Compaq and IBM both sell very Linux-friendly server lines. Dell and (I think) HP also support Linux on their server products. I personally would recommend the Compaq Proliant line. -Original Message- From: Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10 Nov 2001 17:02:19 -0500 Subject: [newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system I am building a system for the doctor's private practice. Stabillity is the number one concern. We will have windows and linux running on separate hard drives untill we can tansition the database to Linux, after which, I'd like to have a RAID system for increased data reliabillity. Do you have any suggestions on hardware I should be looking for or staying away from? I'd like to use an AMD chip. Are there any special considerations for having a mroe reliable system? -Paul Rodríguez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com =_1005591342-1851-1811 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system
My only recomendation is to use 'server grade' hardware. 'Desktop' grade computers are not designed to run 24/7. Unfortunately I don't know of any server-grade computers that use AMD processors. If possible go with a SCSI disk subsystem rather than IDE. IDE drives are made for the desktop market and are generally not designed for 24x7 operation. If you can afford it get a RAID controller (even if you are just mirroring, a RAID controller can handle mirroring much better than the server itself.) and hot swappable drives. it is also a good idea to have redundant (and if possible hot swappable) power supplies and cooling fans. Compaq and IBM both sell very Linux-friendly server lines. Dell and (I think) HP also support Linux on their server products. I personally would recommend the Compaq Proliant line. -Original Message- From: Paul Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10 Nov 2001 17:02:19 -0500 Subject: [newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system I am building a system for the doctor's private practice. Stabillity is the number one concern. We will have windows and linux running on separate hard drives untill we can tansition the database to Linux, after which, I'd like to have a RAID system for increased data reliabillity. Do you have any suggestions on hardware I should be looking for or staying away from? I'd like to use an AMD chip. Are there any special considerations for having a mroe reliable system? -Paul Rodríguez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system
I am building a system for the doctor's private practice. Stabillity is the number one concern. We will have windows and linux running on separate hard drives untill we can tansition the database to Linux, after which, I'd like to have a RAID system for increased data reliabillity. Do you have any suggestions on hardware I should be looking for or staying away from? I'd like to use an AMD chip. Are there any special considerations for having a mroe reliable system? -Paul Rodríguez _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] motherboard suggestion for stable system
On 10 Nov 2001, Paul [ISO-8859-1] Rodríguez wrote: I am building a system for the doctor's private practice. Stabillity is the number one concern. We will have windows and linux running on separate hard drives untill we can tansition the database to Linux, after which, I'd like to have a RAID system for increased data reliabillity. Do you have any suggestions on hardware I should be looking for or staying away from? I'd like to use an AMD chip. Are there any special considerations for having a mroe reliable system? -Paul Rodríguez \ Paul, you might want to pick up this months Linux Journal (you can get it at most Barnes Nobles). The cover article is on building the ultimate Linux box - it will probably help a good bit. peace, Rog Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Feature suggestion
Apt partly solves this problem. Some distros (like Conectiva) have already managed to meld RPM and Apt (originally designed for Debian DEB packages). Perhaps Mandrake should do this? On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 12:39, Digital Wokan wrote: Vic, it sounds like what you're looking for is a solution to the problem of libraries and apps compiled from tarballs instead of installed from RPMs. I don't remember where exactly, but there is a file in /etc that lets you specify that some particular prereq is provided by the system (without having to hunt down the RPM). Of course, careful use of such is required, since you could break your system saying something's being provided when it really isn't. Vic wrote: Hello I think it would be nice to have a feature put into a future mandrake version, capable of being disabled of course, that would, when rpm or an app cood not find a library, it would do a search the entire filesystem until it found one that would make the app work, or if it were not on the system it would then access the net and search for it automatically, asking the user if when it found it, if it was the right one, if the user did not know it would then try downloading and installing several different oens until it worked, and if desired, a go-along-with me type tutorial could also be ran at the time to teach newer users about the internal processes of a linux system, this feature and its subfeatures could all be disabled at the user's request if they already knew what they were doing in the case that it would be useless to them. What about that? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. Your mouse has moved. Windows must be rebooted to acknowledge this change.
[newbie] Feature suggestion
Hello I think it would be nice to have a feature put into a future mandrake version, capable of being disabled of course, that would, when rpm or an app cood not find a library, it would do a search the entire filesystem until it found one that would make the app work, or if it were not on the system it would then access the net and search for it automatically, asking the user if when it found it, if it was the right one, if the user did not know it would then try downloading and installing several different oens until it worked, and if desired, a go-along-with me type tutorial could also be ran at the time to teach newer users about the internal processes of a linux system, this feature and its subfeatures could all be disabled at the user's request if they already knew what they were doing in the case that it would be useless to them. What about that?
Re: [newbie] Feature suggestion
On Saturday 20 January 2001 14:58, you wrote: Hello I think it would be nice to have a feature put into a future mandrake version, capable of being disabled of course, that would, when rpm or an app cood not find a library, it would do a search the entire filesystem until it found one that would make the app work, or if it were not on the system it would then access the net and search for it automatically, asking the user if when it found it, if it was the right one, if the user did not know it would then try downloading and installing several different oens until it worked, and if desired, a go-along-with me type tutorial could also be ran at the time to teach newer users about the internal processes of a linux system, this feature and its subfeatures could all be disabled at the user's request if they already knew what they were doing in the case that it would be useless to them. What about that? There is such a feature unfortunately it is not available in an RPM based ditro as of yet! (HINT HINT) That is apt-get and it is in a devolpemental stage to run on rpm based distros. Currently it is a feature of Debian and Storm Linux. That is the one feature I would love to see in Mandrake. I guess urpmi is supposed to operate that way. I know if you enter a command such as, $urpmi --auto rpmname.rpm it will check the config file for available sources and ask for the appropriate media in the case of the install CD-roms and install the required pkg as well as any depencies. I haven't done much with it to date I may try to add a ftp url for an rpm I would like to install and see what it does. -- John W
[newbie] newbie list suggestion
was just think cuz of all the messages of people having difficulty getting off the list that messages posted to the list should automatically have appended to the end of them an address, say a url, of where to go and get subscription help. Greg
Re: [newbie] lovely suggestion killed my x windows
On Fri, 08 Sep 2000, you wrote: well someone suggested i play with the video settings to fix a problem with the windowson my linux the origional problem was everything was too large and changing the resolution had no effect so i was told to chang the color settings i plopped that sucker down to 256 colors (8 bit) no change so i tried 640x520 lcd display, the result back to where i was 2 weeks ago when i said screw it and reinstalled linux, that was a mess so to avoid doing this does anyone have a suggestion and no editting xf86config is not an option considering it has no lcd displays available and it decided it was not going to go any further then the monitors before committing a total failure, something seems to be corrupted with the configurator, im running a toshiba satellite laptop 800x600 lcd display ati rage lt pro 4mb 64mb sdram 6 gig hard drive linux mandrake 7.1 win 98 se please help check your bios settings. i had this problem and thats what it was
[newbie] lovely suggestion killed my x windows
well someone suggested i play with the video settings to fix a problem with the windowson my linux the origional problem was everything was too large and changing the resolution had no effect so i was told to chang the color settings i plopped that sucker down to 256 colors (8 bit) no change so i tried 640x520 lcd display, the result back to where i was 2 weeks ago when i said screw it and reinstalled linux, that was a mess so to avoid doing this does anyone have a suggestion and no editting xf86config is not an option considering it has no lcd displays available and it decided it was not going to go any further then the monitors before committing a total failure, something seems to be corrupted with the configurator, im running a toshiba satellite laptop 800x600 lcd display ati rage lt pro 4mb 64mb sdram 6 gig hard drive linux mandrake 7.1 win 98 se please help
[newbie] a suggestion for safe installing
in addition to as has been said before: 1. read the manual (i installed Mandrake 7.0 7.1 with nothing but the manual and had no real problems -- sound card doesn't work yet printer is dingy -- but those are not "real problems") 2. back up your data.. duh. that's why i have a CD burner. things like partitoning drives such still frightens me, i'm just not that trusting of software in general especially of anything M$, or anything i don't understand yet (like Linux) but... here is what i do it might help some of you feel safe as well. 1. purchase 2 hard drives, physical drives. 2. use the second drive for all your data files and personal stuff. letters to mom, JPGs of Alicia Silverstone, etc 3. put all of your OSs on the first physical drive, also all of your programs. 4. when ready to upgrade or install a new OS or repartiton or anything else shut off the computer 5. physically unplug the power data to the second drive 6. fire up the system install or whatever 7. when all is happy, power down hook up the second drive. no matter how badly you shaft your first drive, your data is safe this assumes (dangerous to do) that you have install CDs for all your OSs software (not true if you are using the crap that came on your system and thus don't have install disk) thus i believe it's good to get an install CD for each program you use. if you totally trash the OS drive, just start over from nothing and reinstall all of your stuff. i've been doing this for years i've trashed my OS so many times i've lost count. never lost any important data at all. just a suggestion hope it helps someone oh, and read the manual *before* you install =) Adrian Smith 'de telepone dude Telecom Dept. x 7042 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Installation suggestion
Does anyone have a suggestion about how to install Mandrake in a situation like this: Having a laptop running NT4. Have one extra HD that i will put into the laptop and i want to have Mandrake on that one with the possibility to dual-boot between them. One problem is that when i install the extra HD i have to remove the floppy. Is it possible to install Mandrake from CD? Tanks for any advice! /Lennart -- Lennart Petersson Benefit AB Bergendorffsgatan 5A S-652 24 Karlstad Phone: +46 (0)54 177253 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Messenger, my nickname is: bit_av_en_kaka http://www.benefit.se
Re: [newbie] Installation suggestion
If your BIOS supports CD booting, then it can be done, and is very easy. If not, then there is a program on the CD that you can run after you boot into DOS/Windows, the only problem is I'm at work at the moment and I haven't got the info for where this program is. It's listed in the install guide. Can anyone else offer the location of this program? - Original Message - From: Lennart Petersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 10:07 AM Subject: [newbie] Installation suggestion Does anyone have a suggestion about how to install Mandrake in a situation like this: Having a laptop running NT4. Have one extra HD that i will put into the laptop and i want to have Mandrake on that one with the possibility to dual-boot between them. One problem is that when i install the extra HD i have to remove the floppy. Is it possible to install Mandrake from CD? Tanks for any advice! /Lennart -- Lennart Petersson Benefit AB Bergendorffsgatan 5A S-652 24 Karlstad Phone: +46 (0)54 177253 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Messenger, my nickname is: bit_av_en_kaka http://www.benefit.se
Re: [newbie] Installation suggestion
- Original Message - From: Simon Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 6:39 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Installation suggestion If your BIOS supports CD booting, then it can be done, and is very easy. If not, then there is a program on the CD that you can run after you boot into DOS/Windows, the only problem is I'm at work at the moment and I haven't got the info for where this program is. It's listed in the install guide. Can anyone else offer the location of this program? It's \dosutils\autoboot\autoboot.bat. You need to boot from a floppy that has cd-rom support or boot to dos from Windows if you have enabled cd-rom support for dos. I have a boot floppy just for this purpose that uses the autoexec.bat file to accomplish all this, I make the cd drive always initialize as the J:\ drive and then cd J:\ J:\dosutils\autoboot.autoboot.bat and off you go. Just as handy as the boot.img for installing, or maybe handier, since you don't run into boot.img version problems. Hoyt
Re: [newbie] Installation suggestion
On Thu, 09 Sep 1999, you wrote: Having a laptop running NT4. Have one extra HD that i will put into the laptop and i want to have Mandrake on that one with the possibility to dual-boot between them. One problem is that when i install the extra HD i have to remove the floppy. Is it possible to install Mandrake from CD? Sure...if you can boot off your CDROM. :-) I'd think that any laptop capable of running NT4 should be capable of booting from the CDROM. :-) If not, is the hard drive "hot-swappable" with the floppy (likely not)??? The only other option I can see is if you have a "side-kick" floppy that can plug into an external port somwhere. I know some laptops have this option. John
Re: [newbie] Installation suggestion
Ok, thanks all. It should be no problem to boot from CDROM with my laptop. Do you have any suggestions about how to handle the dual boot? /Lennart John Aldrich wrote: On Thu, 09 Sep 1999, you wrote: Having a laptop running NT4. Have one extra HD that i will put into the laptop and i want to have Mandrake on that one with the possibility to dual-boot between them. One problem is that when i install the extra HD i have to remove the floppy. Is it possible to install Mandrake from CD? Sure...if you can boot off your CDROM. :-) I'd think that any laptop capable of running NT4 should be capable of booting from the CDROM. :-) If not, is the hard drive "hot-swappable" with the floppy (likely not)??? The only other option I can see is if you have a "side-kick" floppy that can plug into an external port somwhere. I know some laptops have this option. John -- Lennart Petersson Benefit AB Bergendorffsgatan 5A S-652 24 Karlstad Phone: +46 (0)54 177253 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Messenger, my nickname is: bit_av_en_kaka http://www.benefit.se
Re: [newbie] Installation suggestion
On Thu, 09 Sep 1999, you wrote: Ok, thanks all. It should be no problem to boot from CDROM with my laptop. Do you have any suggestions about how to handle the dual boot? /Lennart Other than using the NT Boot loader, no. My understanding is that it's better to put Linux in the boot loader, rather than trying to use LILO and boot loader Never having done it, I can't say for sure one way or the other.. :-) John
Re: [newbie] Installation suggestion
A lot of people use this program to add Linux to the NT bootloader menu. http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm Jeanette - Original Message - From: John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Installation suggestion On Thu, 09 Sep 1999, you wrote: Ok, thanks all. It should be no problem to boot from CDROM with my laptop. Do you have any suggestions about how to handle the dual boot? /Lennart Other than using the NT Boot loader, no. My understanding is that it's better to put Linux in the boot loader, rather than trying to use LILO and boot loader Never having done it, I can't say for sure one way or the other.. :-) John
Re: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in Mandrake---PLEASE!!!
Boon Kee wrote: How do you recompile the kernel? I am try to recompile linux 2.2.7 downloaded from the web. Here is how Icompile the kernel (In Mandrake, you have to install the source from the CD... Once you install the source from the cdrom: cd /linux/src/linux make xconfig then make sure you enable sound support for whatever card you have and sound in general. Once youre done configuring,save and exit. THEN make dep; make; clean; make boot THEN cd /usr/src/linux make mudules move the module directory to a new location: mv /lib/modules/2.0(whatever your version) /lib/modules/2.0-old make modules_install After a while. cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage /boot cat using pico for example or midnight commander and go to /etc/lilo.conf then change (there are only 4 lines) the line label=linux to label=new (for example). An make sure that the line root=...has the right partition (probably has it). SAve Then install lilo: /sbin/lilo Reboot and is done. IT sounds difficult but you have to do it only once and you can have your machine configure just for you. Macintosh is easier at first but it crashes all the time. Iguess the process is similar to adding extensions in a mac or drivers in a pc. Linus has never crashed for me. Which makes it difficult for me to learn more (once you have it configured, it is so stable you forget what you've learn becasue there is nothing else to do) Maybe somebody can post where exactly is the source in the CD-ROM. Good luck
RE: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in Mandrake---PLEASE!!!
Maybe you need sound support in the kernel? How did you install Mandrake? Maybe you left something... Workstation installationi the best for me for now. I remember I could not get sound once (messing with the system) and I just rebuilded the kernel and when running sndconfig after that it worked. Maybe your problem is different. On Thu, 13 May 1999, you wrote: yeah right. everything being "win" is the main reason i'm trying to get out of the microsoft lockdown. no the modem is an external netgear xm128 isdn modem, bri, standard all the way around. also the sound is quite tricky. this is the second card i've tried. both times sndconfig found the correct sound card but hangs when attempting to play the sample sound. i've tried manually installing it (sndconfig --noprobe) and tried many like and unlike cards(within sndconfig), all with different values. i cannot get the sound. i've reinstalled to no avail. if someone has an ensoniq pci 1371 chipset card (i think linux calls it creative\ensoniq 1371?) and it works fine, is there a way i could just use the settings you have? i don't know. this is my 3rd day with the os. thanks for any help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James J. Capone Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 11:15 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in Mandrake---PLEASE!!! Is your modem a WinModem James J. Capone Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com Co-Author Linux for Newbies bundled with Linux-Mandrake. To Be out in summer "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In The Apartment Next To Yours!" On Wednesday, May 12, 1999 9:16 PM, Glenn C. Ewen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: A buddy of mine gave me this linux-mandrake cd because I've always been interested in linux. Now I've installed it fine and even got my nic and printer to work but that's about it. I can't get my sound or modem to work and I don't know my way around or anything. So I was wondering if anyone knew of a book I could get to help me along. I'm pretty knowable with pc's if that helps. Thanks for any help given --s3x---
RE: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in Mandrake---PLEASE!!!
JM it is not to bad if you take it slow. The tricky part is knowing what options to compile into the Kernel. Once unzipped, and after you run make mrproper, you can run make config and determine what you want compiled into the kernel. IE Soundblaster support, PPP support, plug and play,IP masq.,etc The list of options is about 200 pages long. Really ! I would recommend you use the make xconfig command if you are using X windows. It is much easier and gives you a nice graphic summary of each item if you like. With "xcongfig" you will have to save it as a file name. I picked kernel-2.2.7. Once "configured" you run make dep make clean make zImage (or maybe make bzImage if it is a big kernel) make modules make modules_install When make zImage is done it will tell you what the new kernel name is. I renamed mine to kernel-2.2.7 and moved it to my "boot" directory. Edit a file called lilo.conf and change the line that shows the path to the old kernel to the new name (kernel-2.2.7). Save and at a shell, type lilo. You should be able to reboot and hopefully everything will work. There are several programs you need to upgrade to. There is a list at www.linuxhq.com/change22.html I received a couple errors on boot until I installed a couple of the updates. I think kernel-utils was one. I hope this helps. I am a newbie too SO if anyone see I am leading another newbie astray here, please chime in and set me straight... Rich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Boon Kee Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in Mandrake---PLEASE!!! How do you recompile the kernel? I am try to recompile linux 2.2.7 downloaded from the web. The readme file simply confuse me JM wrote: Maybe you need sound support in the kernel? How did you install Mandrake? Maybe you left something... Workstation installationi the best for me for now. I remember I could not get sound once (messing with the system) and I just rebuilded the kernel and when running sndconfig after that it worked. Maybe your problem is different. On Thu, 13 May 1999, you wrote: yeah right. everything being "win" is the main reason i'm trying to get out of the microsoft lockdown. no the modem is an external netgear xm128 isdn modem, bri, standard all the way around. also the sound is quite tricky. this is the second card i've tried. both times sndconfig found the correct sound card but hangs when attempting to play the sample sound. i've tried manually installing it (sndconfig --noprobe) and tried many like and unlike cards(within sndconfig), all with different values. i cannot get the sound. i've reinstalled to no avail. if someone has an ensoniq pci 1371 chipset card (i think linux calls it creative\ensoniq 1371?) and it works fine, is there a way i could just use the settings you have? i don't know. this is my 3rd day with the os. thanks for any help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James J. Capone Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 11:15 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] a suggestion needed from someone knowledgeable in Mandrake---PLEASE!!! Is your modem a WinModem James J. Capone Webmaster http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/Linux Asst. Webmaster http://www.ptm.com Co-Author Linux for Newbies bundled with Linux-Mandrake. To Be out in summer "The Only Person To Hear Both Sides Of A Argument Is The Guy In The Apartment Next To Yours!" On Wednesday, May 12, 1999 9:16 PM, Glenn C. Ewen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: A buddy of mine gave me this linux-mandrake cd because I've always been interested in linux. Now I've installed it fine and even got my nic and printer to work but that's about it. I can't get my sound or modem to work and I don't know my way around or anything. So I was wondering if anyone knew of a book I could get to help me along. I'm pretty knowable with pc's if that helps. Thanks for any help given --s3x---
