Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2004-01-06 Thread Paul O'Rorke 
 rm /var/lib/urpmi/list.contrib
done,

then:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]# urpmi kernel-source

The following packages have bad signatures:
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm: Invalid signature 
(sha1 MD5 GPG GPG#22458a98 NOT OK)
Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) y
installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm
error: /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm: MD5 digest: 
BAD Expected(bff9f49500e6ab51f492e730640f53bc) != 
(0e3bdc812dbba76e3e0eb7416b59ad8f)
unable to install package 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]# ls /usr/src
RPM/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]# cd /usr/src/RPM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] RPM]# ls
BUILD/  RPMS/  SOURCES/  SPECS/  SRPMS/

so I removed it:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] rpms]# rm kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm
rm: remove regular file `kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm'? y

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rpms]# urpmi kernel-source

ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm
Installation failed, some files are missing:

ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/./kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm
You may want to update your urpmi database
[EMAIL PROTECTED] rpms]#



  what next?

 What do you see at present in /usr/src?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]# ls /usr/src
RPM/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]# cd /usr/src/RPM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] RPM]# ls
BUILD/  RPMS/  SOURCES/  SPECS/  SRPMS/

 I just looked and mine is a tangled 
 mess of the last three pre-release kernels plus the correct ones for
 kernels I do have installed. The only kernel-source directories that have
 anything more than a link in them are the ones that correspond to actual
 isntalled kernels though. But then the last full installer run I did on
 this system was RC2. Everything since was an urpmi --auto-select upgrade.

 Sorry I was late posting an answer. Keep trying, this will get sorted.

 Charlie

No worries, I have great staying power if you are up to it.  I should draw 
your attention to another issue I'm having as I wonder if it is related.  
(See my post hanging box) Perhaps my file system is not perfect?

Just clutching at straws here...

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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2004-01-05 Thread Paul O'Rorke 
On December 10, 2003 01:24 am, Charlie Mahan wrote:
snip
Back after Christmas and still can't get the kernel-source 2.4.22-21 to 
install.  I'm still getting the bad signature message.  I was successfull 
with the 2.4.22-10 source - so I'm unsure why one would install and not the 
other.

:-(

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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2004-01-05 Thread Charlie Mahan 
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Monday 05 January 2004 3:00 pm, Paul O'Rorke wrote:
 On December 10, 2003 01:24 am, Charlie Mahan wrote:
 snip
 Back after Christmas and still can't get the kernel-source 2.4.22-21 to
 install.  I'm still getting the bad signature message.  I was successfull
 with the 2.4.22-10 source - so I'm unsure why one would install and not the
 other.

 :-(

You're going to have to refresh my memory here Paul. Are you using the 
ibiblio.org mirror for updates or a different one? Sorry, I can't recall 
where we left this.

At any rate; in a terminal what's the output of running the command:

gpg --list-keys

and:

uname -r

Run the command:

urpmi.update --wget -acf  urpmi --wget kernel-source

Post any warnings or errors, and let the list (especially me) know how far 
behind you we are; OK? g

Happy New Year and welcome back!

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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2004-01-05 Thread Paul O'Rorke 
On January 5, 2004 03:28 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:
 Monday 05 January 2004 3:00 pm, Paul O'Rorke wrote:
  On December 10, 2003 01:24 am, Charlie Mahan wrote:
  snip
  Back after Christmas and still can't get the kernel-source 2.4.22-21 to
  install.  I'm still getting the bad signature message.  I was
  successfull with the 2.4.22-10 source - so I'm unsure why one would
  install and not the other.
 
  :-(

 You're going to have to refresh my memory here Paul. Are you using the
 ibiblio.org mirror for updates or a different one? Sorry, I can't recall
 where we left this.
OK:

main: 
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS 
and update-source: 
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS


 At any rate; in a terminal what's the output of running the command:

 gpg --list-keys

no result - just returns to my prompt.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]$



 and:

 uname -r

2.4.22-21mdk


 Run the command:

 urpmi.update --wget -acf  urpmi --wget kernel-source

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]$ urpmi.update --wget -acf  urpmi --wget kernel-source
bash: urpmi.update: command not found

Odd, I thought we were using that command earlier?

 Post any warnings or errors, and let the list (especially me) know how far
 behind you we are; OK? g

 Happy New Year and welcome back!

Thanks - same to you.  :-)

 Charlie

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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2004-01-05 Thread Charlie Mahan 
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Monday 05 January 2004 5:32 pm, Paul O'Rorke wrote:
whack

 main:
 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
 and update-source:
 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS

  At any rate; in a terminal what's the output of running the command:
 
  gpg --list-keys

 no result - just returns to my prompt.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]$

  and:
 
  uname -r

 2.4.22-21mdk

Good. That's the update kernel.

  Run the command:
 
  urpmi.update --wget -acf  urpmi --wget kernel-source

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]$ urpmi.update --wget -acf  urpmi --wget
 kernel-source bash: urpmi.update: command not found

 Odd, I thought we were using that command earlier?

We were I believe, I just want to get us both (me especially) up to speed. Run 
the commands that did nothing as super user my son, as super user! (-;

Sorry, I should have told you that I suppose.

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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2004-01-05 Thread Paul O'Rorke 
On January 5, 2004 04:37 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:


OK here goes:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]# gpg --list-keys
gpg: /root/.gnupg: directory created
gpg: new configuration file `/root/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created
gpg: WARNING: options in `/root/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during 
this run
gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]# uname -r
2.4.22-21mdk

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]# urpmi.update --wget -acf  urpmi --wget kernel-source
reading rpm files from 
[/home/ororkep/Downloads/Mandrake_9.2/Installation_cd1/Ma  
 
ndrake/RPMS]
writing list file for medium Installation Disk1
reading rpm files from 
[/home/ororkep/Downloads/Mandrake_9.2/Installation_cd2/Ma  
 
ndrake/RPMS2]
writing list file for medium Installation Disk2
reading rpm files from 
[/home/ororkep/Downloads/Mandrake_9.2/International_cd3/Mandrake/RPMS3]
writing list file for medium International Disk3
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of update_source...

ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/base/hdlist.cz
...retrieving done
examining hdlist file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.update_source.cz]
writing list file for medium update_source
retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of main...

ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/base/synthesis.hdlist.cz
...retrieving done
examining synthesis file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.main.cz]
performing second pass to compute dependencies

reading headers from medium Installation Disk1
building hdlist [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.Installation Disk1.cz]
choosing compression method with gzip -4 for archive 
/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.Installation Disk1.cz
real archive size of /var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.Installation Disk1.cz is 5408021
built hdlist synthesis file for medium Installation Disk1
reading headers from medium Installation Disk2
building hdlist [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.Installation Disk2.cz]
choosing compression method with gzip -4 for archive 
/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.Installation Disk2.cz
real archive size of /var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.Installation Disk2.cz is 5975082
built hdlist synthesis file for medium Installation Disk2
reading headers from medium International Disk3
building hdlist [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.International Disk3.cz]
choosing compression method with gzip -4 for archive 
/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.International Disk3.cz
real archive size of /var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.International Disk3.cz is 6339131
built hdlist synthesis file for medium International Disk3
examining hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.update_source.cz]
built hdlist synthesis file for medium update_source
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz]
found 2707 headers in cache
removing 0 obsolete headers in cache
write config file [/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg]


ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm
Installation failed, some files are missing:

ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/./kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm
You may want to update your urpmi database
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]#


I guess I should have figured out the super user thing,  I'll get there...

OK so this downloads the information about available packages?  I tried to 
follow another thread which was talking about this but have to admit that I 
got a bit lost...

I notice that there seems to be an issue with the 
kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm, is that relevant?

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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2004-01-05 Thread Charlie Mahan 
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Monday 05 January 2004 7:27 pm, Paul O'Rorke wrote:
 On January 5, 2004 04:37 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:


 OK here goes:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]# gpg --list-keys
 gpg: /root/.gnupg: directory created
 gpg: new configuration file `/root/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created
 gpg: WARNING: options in `/root/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during
 this run
 gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]# uname -r
 2.4.22-21mdk

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]# urpmi.update --wget -acf  urpmi --wget kernel-source
 reading rpm files from
 [/home/ororkep/Downloads/Mandrake_9.2/Installation_cd1/Ma
 ndrake/RPMS]
 writing list file for medium Installation Disk1
 reading rpm files from
 [/home/ororkep/Downloads/Mandrake_9.2/Installation_cd2/Ma
 ndrake/RPMS2]
 writing list file for medium Installation Disk2
 reading rpm files from
 [/home/ororkep/Downloads/Mandrake_9.2/International_cd3/Mandrake/RPMS3]
 writing list file for medium International Disk3
 retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of update_source...

 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/base/hdlis
t.cz ...retrieving done
 examining hdlist file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.update_source.cz]
 writing list file for medium update_source
 retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of main...

 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/base
/synthesis.hdlist.cz ...retrieving done
 examining synthesis file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.main.cz]
 performing second pass to compute dependencies

 reading headers from medium Installation Disk1
 building hdlist [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.Installation Disk1.cz]
 choosing compression method with gzip -4 for archive
 /var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.Installation Disk1.cz
 real archive size of /var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.Installation Disk1.cz is 5408021
 built hdlist synthesis file for medium Installation Disk1
 reading headers from medium Installation Disk2
 building hdlist [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.Installation Disk2.cz]
 choosing compression method with gzip -4 for archive
 /var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.Installation Disk2.cz
 real archive size of /var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.Installation Disk2.cz is 5975082
 built hdlist synthesis file for medium Installation Disk2
 reading headers from medium International Disk3
 building hdlist [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.International Disk3.cz]
 choosing compression method with gzip -4 for archive
 /var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.International Disk3.cz
 real archive size of /var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.International Disk3.cz is
 6339131 built hdlist synthesis file for medium International Disk3
 examining hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.update_source.cz]
 built hdlist synthesis file for medium update_source
 examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz]
 found 2707 headers in cache
 removing 0 obsolete headers in cache
 write config file [/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg]


 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/kerne
l-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm Installation failed, some files are missing:

 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/./ker
nel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm You may want to update your urpmi database
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]#


 I guess I should have figured out the super user thing,  I'll get there...

 OK so this downloads the information about available packages?  I tried to
 follow another thread which was talking about this but have to admit that I
 got a bit lost...

 I notice that there seems to be an issue with the
 kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm, is that relevant?

I've seen this crap before but I don't remember why it happens Paul. The 
simple fix is to download the source directly from the mirror, move it to 
/var/cache/urpmi/rpms then urpmi it. Or use the GUI (rpmdrake) to install it. 
First check to be sure it hasn't downloaded and is sitting there already. If 
it is compare the size to what's on the mirror. It should be 40.2 MB.

Holler if there are still problems.

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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2004-01-05 Thread Paul O'Rorke 
On January 5, 2004 08:41 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:
snip

 I've seen this crap before but I don't remember why it happens Paul. The
 simple fix is to download the source directly from the mirror, move it to
 /var/cache/urpmi/rpms then urpmi it. Or use the GUI (rpmdrake) to install
 it. First check to be sure it hasn't downloaded and is sitting there
 already. If it is compare the size to what's on the mirror. It should be
 40.2 MB.

 Holler if there are still problems.

 Charlie

OK,  I downloaded kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm and got the following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rpms]# urpmi kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm
error: kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm: MD5 digest: BAD 
Expected(bff9f49500e6ab51f492e730640f53bc) != 
(0e3bdc812dbba76e3e0eb7416b59ad8f)
unable to register rpm file
medium contrib uses an invalid list file:
  mirror is probably not up-to-date, trying to use alternate method
Everything already installed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] rpms]#

what does that mean?  I tried to uninstall the same file using the graphical 
manager and it says that it isn't there.  When I click on the rpm in a gui 
file manager it says Everything already installed; I'm confused.

:-(

what next?

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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2003-12-10 Thread Paul O'Rorke 
Baby steps

OK let me see if I am grasping what we are doing here.  Hope this isn't too 
long winded but I'd like to know vaguely what I'm doing here...

urpmi.removemedia main

then:

urpmi.addmedia main
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
with ../base/hdlist.cz

removed the 
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm
 
site as a source for updates then added 
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS 
instead?

If I understand this correctly I now have my Cd's (copied to the hard drive 
and added as a local source for convenience) and the two directories on 
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org for main and update_source as more up to date 
repositories 

then:

urpmi.update --wget -acf  updated my URPMI database...?

I went ad installed two rpm updates I found listed where you suggested in 
rpmdrake under the by update availabilityupgradable

so far so good

at this point I found two kernel-source packages available in in rpmdrake 
under the Mandrake choices:

kernel-source-2.4.22-10mdk and kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.  I assume these two 
are available because they match two of the kernels I have (side by side?)  
Installing kernel-source-2.4.22-10mdk was then successfully!! Hooray - 
definitely making progress here however I still get the following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]# urpmi --wget kernel-source


ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm
Installation failed, some files are missing:

ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/./kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm
You may want to update your urpmi database

even after doing urpmi.update --wget -acf which produces a lot of responses, 
including the lines:

examining hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.update_source.cz]
built hdlist synthesis file for medium update_source
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.main.cz]
found 2707 headers in cache
removing 0 obsolete headers in cache
write config file [/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]#

If I run the NVIDIA installer now, do I need to boot to 2.4.22-10mdk instead 
of 2.4.22-21mdk to do it, and will that mean I still can't use accelerated 
graphics with the 2.4.22-21mdk kernel?  

As a side note it took 6 reboots and y to 'check file integrity' with repeated 
hangings to successfully boot to the new kernel.  Is there some other bug fix 
or update I need to do to get the newer kernel working?  I am running an AMD 
Athalon 2500 with 1024MB RAM and a GeForce FX5200 AGP on an 'ASUS A7N8X 
Deluxe' mainboard.

I do appreciate the patience of my helpers, I'd be lost without your help.  
Baby steps



On December 9, 2003 12:44 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:
 Tuesday 09 December 2003 1:33 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:
 whack
 It may benefit you to have all your software sources other than the CDs on
 one mirror. I notice you added the source I posted for main but you use
 secsup for updates. Add main there instead. It probably won't matter but
 one never knows, correct?

 urpmi.removemedia main

 then:

 urpmi.addmedia main
 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
 with ../base/hdlist.cz

 Even if nothing else, consistency is always a Good Thing® don't you
 think? (-:

 Charlie

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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2003-12-10 Thread Charlie Mahan 
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Tuesday 09 December 2003 11:56 pm, Paul O'Rorke wrote:
 Baby steps

 OK let me see if I am grasping what we are doing here.  Hope this isn't too
 long winded but I'd like to know vaguely what I'm doing here...

 urpmi.removemedia main

 then:

 urpmi.addmedia main
 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
 with ../base/hdlist.cz

Yeah, that'll work. The effect of both commands is to reconfigure urpmi by 
removing one software source and adding a different one. One that's closer 
geographically but may not be any better than the rediris mirror I first gave 
you for speed etc, but is at least on the same side of the ocean and doesn't 
link/redirect through a server in Spain. Confused yet? g

 removed the
 http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/Mandrake/updates
/9.2/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm site as a source for updates
 then added

That's not a source, that's a URL to a specific package in the proper 
directory in the updates tree on the ibiblio.org mirror. Think about what 
you're trying to add as a source here Paul. What you want is the entire 
updates directory for 9.2 from the Mandrake/updates/9.2/i586/RPMS part of the 
tree. OK? That's what you have above for main. Now you need it for updates.

 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS
 instead?

Close. You're missing something though. See below and then try this:

urpmi.removemedia updates

Are you sure you want to do this from the command line? It may be easier for 
you to work with the GUI software manager. I'll still show you the command to 
add the mirror.secsup updates source but you may not be able to click the 
Mandrake Update icon in the Mandrake Control Centre after 'cause of whatever 
glitch that was that I posted about earlier. That's OK, you can still do 
everything from the command line or from rpmdrake. I'll detail the GUI method 
again below just in case.

That mirror isn't totally up to date by the way. It seems none are, all were 
last synchronized on the 8th. Check for status here:

http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/ftp.php

The command to add that mirror to software sources:

urpmi.addmedia update_source 
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/ with 
../base/hdlist.cz

should get you where you want to be. Now, if you have the .21mdk kernel 
installed you shouldn't try to install the NVidia drivers against the older 
(release) kernel. That won't work with the new one but if you boot to the 
original (.10mdk) kernel it should. You have to install the driver module for 
every kernel you have installed or you'll get bitten.

 If I understand this correctly I now have my Cd's (copied to the hard drive
 and added as a local source for convenience) and the two directories on
 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org for main and update_source as more up to date
 repositories

Good planning. I just rsync the entire current release and cooker trees 
locally, but I may have too much disk space. (-;

The reason for main source linking to the tree on the mirror is that the disks 
weren't complete copies of the 9.2 release. Not enough space for that. Now 
that you've added it you have access to a lot more packages for 9.2 than you 
could get on disks. There's also contrib which is a whole other pile of 
available packages but we can do that another time.

 The reason for update_source is self explanatory; bug fixes, security fixes, 
version updates.

 then:

 urpmi.update --wget -acf  updated my URPMI database...?

Yes. 

 I went ad installed two rpm updates I found listed where you suggested in
 rpmdrake under the by update availabilityupgradable

 so far so good

Good.

 at this point I found two kernel-source packages available in in rpmdrake
 under the Mandrake choices:

 kernel-source-2.4.22-10mdk and kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.  I assume these
 two are available because they match two of the kernels I have (side by
 side?) Installing kernel-source-2.4.22-10mdk was then successfully!! Hooray
 - definitely making progress here however I still get the following:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]# urpmi --wget kernel-source

 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/kerne
l-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm Installation failed, some files are missing:

 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/./ker
nel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm You may want to update your urpmi database

This is exceedingly strange Paul. That kernel is there, I just tried the link 
and it downloaded. Or would have if I hadn't cancelled it. I don't need two 
copies of it, and I already have one in my local 9.2 tree.

 even after doing urpmi.update --wget -acf which produces a lot of
 responses, including the lines:

 examining hdlist file [/var/lib/urpmi/hdlist.update_source.cz]
 built hdlist synthesis file for medium update_source
 examining

Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2003-12-10 Thread Paul O'Rorke 
On December 9, 2003 11:45 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:


A little background info here might be usefull since you are going to so much 
trouble to help me.   :-)

Although my email address is from Australia, I've had that for more than 8 
years.  Since then I've moved to Canada as a landed Immigrant.  I live in 
Nanimo on Vancouver Island and attend college here doing an IT diploma.  I've 
worked in Japan for 5 years doing Wondoze stuff and have been trying to get 
past the GUI since Mandrake 6.0. (Actually paid for it...)  As such I'm 
thrilled to be doing a full semester on Linux starting next January (had to 
do W2K Pro this semester, and am sitting my A+ Core Friday, and Network+ next 
Thursday)  My instructor for Linux next semester is quite scathing of Gui's 
and I am keen to become more than just a disgruntled MS guy - so command line 
is definitely the order of the day for me.  By the way, I actually spent 2 
seasons in Alberta doing the 'Patch'.  Loved Edmonton, even enjoyed the cold. 
(redefined cold for me...)  So a mirror over here would be appropriate.

As such I've held off on the NVIDIA driver and other bits until after 
tomorrows exam.  I get excited at the concept of Open Source and will 
definitely be taking Mandrake Linux into whatever work I can make for myself 
after graduation.  I am however finding the financial constraints of being a  
student somewhat restrictive for the time being (especially after the free 
flow of cash from my time in the patch) - thus the download edition.

I really do want to reiterate how much I appreciate the extent of the help you 
have provided, I feel like I am a part of a community, and with this kind of 
support am sure I can make the step beyond point and click.

I'll be harassing you again tomorrow with details of how your suggestions 
went.

Cheers for now.


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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2003-12-10 Thread Charlie Mahan 
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Wednesday 10 December 2003 1:50 am, Paul O'Rorke wrote:
whack

 I'll be harassing you again tomorrow with details of how your suggestions
 went.

 Cheers for now.

A reply to this message will be forthcoming off list. Hope that's OK but I 
think the reason stated below is sufficient explanation?

I'll post replies to questions on list, but this is all personal stuff and 
as such we don't need to pollute the bandwidth for everyone else, OK?

Keep the Mandrake relevant harassment on list though. I don't mind being 
abused. Not too much anyway.

But not in public. lol

Peace;
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[newbie] kernel_source

2003-12-09 Thread Paul O'Rorke 
Hi I'm trying to install the kernel_source so I can run the NVIDIA driver, but 
when I try to use the Mandrake 9.2 software installer I get a message that 
the rpm has a missing signature, could not open file.  It doesn't seem to 
matter where I get the package from, Mandrake_Updates, elsewhere - same 
result.  I found a package from rpmfind.net, but when I ran the NVIDIA 
installer it complains that it is the wrong source as nvidia isn't mentioned.  
What exactly is the signature and is the problem at my end?

Also wondering why I can (and did) install the updated the kernel to 
2.4.22-21mdk, but the matching source?

Any ideas?

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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2003-12-09 Thread Raffaele Belardi 
Just a guess, do you have gpg installed? To check, just type

$ gpg --version

from the command line.

raffaele

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi I'm trying to install the kernel_source so I can run the NVIDIA driver, but 
when I try to use the Mandrake 9.2 software installer I get a message that 
the rpm has a missing signature, could not open file.  It doesn't seem to 
matter where I get the package from, Mandrake_Updates, elsewhere - same 
result.  I found a package from rpmfind.net, but when I ran the NVIDIA 
installer it complains that it is the wrong source as nvidia isn't mentioned.  
What exactly is the signature and is the problem at my end?

Also wondering why I can (and did) install the updated the kernel to 
2.4.22-21mdk, but the matching source?

Any ideas?





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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2003-12-09 Thread Paul O'Rorke 
Hi raffaele,

I get the following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]$ gpg --version
gpg (GnuPG) 1.2.3
Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions. See the file COPYING for details.

Home: ~/.gnupg
Supported algorithms:
Pubkey: RSA, RSA-E, RSA-S, ELG-E, DSA, ELG
Cipher: 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, AES, AES192, AES256, TWOFISH
Hash: MD5, SHA1, RIPEMD160, SHA256
Compression: Uncompressed, ZIP, ZLIB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]$

so I guess I do?



On December 9, 2003 06:25 am, Raffaele Belardi wrote:
 Just a guess, do you have gpg installed? To check, just type

 $ gpg --version

 from the command line.

 raffaele

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi I'm trying to install the kernel_source so I can run the NVIDIA
  driver, but when I try to use the Mandrake 9.2 software installer I get a
  message that the rpm has a missing signature, could not open file.  It
  doesn't seem to matter where I get the package from, Mandrake_Updates,
  elsewhere - same result.  I found a package from rpmfind.net, but when I
  ran the NVIDIA installer it complains that it is the wrong source as
  nvidia isn't mentioned. What exactly is the signature and is the problem
  at my end?
 
  Also wondering why I can (and did) install the updated the kernel to
  2.4.22-21mdk, but the matching source?
 
  Any ideas?
 
 
 
  
 
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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2003-12-09 Thread H.J.Bathoorn 
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 15:25, Paul O'Rorke wrote:
 Hi I'm trying to install the kernel_source so I can run the NVIDIA driver,
 but when I try to use the Mandrake 9.2 software installer I get a message
 that the rpm has a missing signature, could not open file.  It doesn't seem
 to matter where I get the package from, Mandrake_Updates, elsewhere - same
 result.  I found a package from rpmfind.net, but when I ran the NVIDIA
 installer it complains that it is the wrong source as nvidia isn't
 mentioned. What exactly is the signature and is the problem at my end?

 Also wondering why I can (and did) install the updated the kernel to
 2.4.22-21mdk, but the matching source?

 Any ideas?

You need kernel-source-2.4.22 for that kernel. It should be on your CD set.
It shouldn't give a missing signature if it comes from there.
If you are sure about the source of the rpm you can ignore it and install the 
package anyway.
Run uname -a to check what kernel you're running, apparently it doesn't 
correspond to the kernel-source you installed, or so it seems from the 
nvidia-installer complaints.

Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] kernel_source(OT)

2003-12-09 Thread Charlie Mahan 
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Tuesday 09 December 2003 12:49 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Tuesday 09 December 2003 20:42, Charlie Mahan wrote:
  whack

 Hey Charlie,

 What do you use for snipping, an axe or a club? ;)

 Good luck,
 HarM
A broad axe HarM. g 

But that was shown as a whack, not a snip. Snips are implied surgical actions. 
this one was a Conan the Barbarian style 'whack in a hurry.' lol

Peace my friend!
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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2003-12-09 Thread Charlie Mahan 
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Tuesday 09 December 2003 12:29 pm, Paul O'Rorke wrote:
 On December 9, 2003 11:23 am, C. Tresenriter wrote:
 I have 1024MB RAM so I should boot to enterprise by default then?

It also supports multi processors and has a few other bells and whistles.

If you want to utilize all your memory you should. be aware that the 
enterprise kernels slow the system slightly due to the vagaries of memory 
addressing.

Depending on the processor there's also versions of the kernel that will 
access up to 4 GB of memory for uni-processors 
(kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm)
and up to 64 GB for P3 processors that are capable. Think XEON etc. Look in 
updates.

Addendum to my previous post:

If you're using the software manager (rpmdrake) from the Mandrake Control 
Centre just use the drop down list to show all packages by update 
availability and open the addable list. The kernel sources are there as well 
the optional kernels.

Good luck some more. g
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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2003-12-09 Thread Paul O'Rorke 
On December 9, 2003 11:50 am, Charlie Mahan wrote:
snip or axe...?


OK I tried what you said, using the terminal and was successful in adding main 
as a source,  I got stuck when trying to install the kernel_source.  I got:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]# urpmi --wget kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm

ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm
Installation failed, some files are missing:

ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/./kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm
You may want to update your urpmi database
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]#

Similarly when I try the GUI I get a message that the file has a missing 
signature and can't open the file even if I say to ignore the error   :-(

I'm right back at square one

 If you're using the software manager (rpmdrake) from the Mandrake Control
 Centre just use the drop down list to show all packages by update
 availability and open the addable list. The kernel sources are there as
 well the optional kernels.

 Good luck some more. g
 Charlie

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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2003-12-09 Thread Charlie Mahan 
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Tuesday 09 December 2003 1:13 pm, Paul O'Rorke wrote:
 On December 9, 2003 11:50 am, Charlie Mahan wrote:
 snip or axe...?


 OK I tried what you said, using the terminal and was successful in adding
 main as a source,  I got stuck when trying to install the kernel_source.  I
 got:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]# urpmi --wget kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk

Leave out the version numbers Paul. Just:

urpmi --wget kernel-source

 http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/Mandrake/updates
/9.2/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm

Yeah well it's there:

ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS

Try this, in that su terminal run the command:

urpmi.update --wget -acf

and then try the kernel source installation command above again. Let me know?

That update command uses the wget flag 'cause a lot of times curl will fail 
and tells you nothing when it does so. Wget tries harder and better.

 Also I added the -acf flags which means all listed sources, clean headers, 
force update. OK?

 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/kerne
l-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm Installation failed, some files are missing:

 ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/./ker
nel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm You may want to update your urpmi database
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ororkep]#

 Similarly when I try the GUI I get a message that the file has a missing
 signature and can't open the file even if I say to ignore the error   :-(

The update command should take care of that missing signature crapola. Is the 
kernel source the only listed update you haven't installed? RPM was updates 
recently along with a few other major 'drake utilities. I'd have a good look 
at the list in rpmdrake under the by update availabilityupgradable heading 
after the command runs.

 I'm right back at square one

Not quite, at least you now have a valid source for things left off the 
download version due to disk space limitations. We can fix this Paul, just be 
patient with your helpers and yourself, all right?

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Re: [newbie] kernel_source

2003-12-09 Thread Charlie Mahan 
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Tuesday 09 December 2003 1:33 pm, Charlie Mahan wrote:
whack
It may benefit you to have all your software sources other than the CDs on one 
mirror. I notice you added the source I posted for main but you use secsup 
for updates. Add main there instead. It probably won't matter but one never 
knows, correct?

urpmi.removemedia main

then:

urpmi.addmedia main 
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS 
with ../base/hdlist.cz

Even if nothing else, consistency is always a Good Thing® don't you think? 
(-:

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