Re: [newbie] Installation problems with 9.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 11 October 2002 2:07 pm, Jason Drushel did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: First of all, system specs. It's a Dell Inspiron 3200, P2-233 with 32mb RAM, 4gb HD, Neologic or somesuch video card. Any suggestions? either get some RAM or install an 8.x version, as 9 needs 64 MB i believe. - -- Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies. shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9ppiQBwq+ZwvIN/oRAg2XAJ0XM+BlYnEk9K0OAF+zsDVLrzEMDQCeNnLu 1a4lQERwosoVTSCfP7tnBjw= =sVQo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation problems with 9.0
Hi Jason, Welcome - The bad news is that 32 MB is probably too little for what you have in mind using Mdk 9. I had an old Dell with 64 MB - I eventually had to add 128 MB to make a fist of the hardware. Then it went along fine - on mdk 8.2 and now 9.0. (it chokes on Windows 98, NT and XP) . The processor will be OK but plenty of RAM really is needed - especially if you want (as I expect) a graphical User Interface. You could settle for a command line , but I doubt if that is what you really need right now. Best, AH. On Friday, October 11, 2002, at 09:07 PM, Jason Drushel wrote: Hi guys, new to the list, and to Linux in general. (obviously, or I wouldn't be posting here) First of all, system specs. It's a Dell Inspiron 3200, P2-233 with 32mb RAM, 4gb HD, Neologic or somesuch video card. snip Any suggestions? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation problems with 9.0
Win98 runs just fine on it. You're the third person to suggest RAM as the problem, so I'm more inclined to believe it now. And I can see that causing the various freezes during installation. But the error messages? How would that account for the securitypolicy and hard drive detection errors? At 09:31 PM 10/11/2002 +, you wrote: Hi Jason, Welcome - The bad news is that 32 MB is probably too little for what you have in mind using Mdk 9. I had an old Dell with 64 MB - I eventually had to add 128 MB to make a fist of the hardware. Then it went along fine - on mdk 8.2 and now 9.0. (it chokes on Windows 98, NT and XP) . The processor will be OK but plenty of RAM really is needed - especially if you want (as I expect) a graphical User Interface. You could settle for a command line , but I doubt if that is what you really need right now. Best, AH. On Friday, October 11, 2002, at 09:07 PM, Jason Drushel wrote: Hi guys, new to the list, and to Linux in general. (obviously, or I wouldn't be posting here) First of all, system specs. It's a Dell Inspiron 3200, P2-233 with 32mb RAM, 4gb HD, Neologic or somesuch video card. snip Any suggestions? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation problems with 9.0
Jason Drushel wrote: Win98 runs just fine on it. You're the third person to suggest RAM as the problem, so I'm more inclined to believe it now. And I can see that causing the various freezes during installation. But the error messages? How would that account for the securitypolicy and hard drive detection errors? With a low ram setup all kinds of other errors tend to show up. also if you have even one flaky chip on a set of ram modules it can screw up everything. If you just want to try linux on that laptop try mandrake 7.2 or 8.0, or try one built for a 486. as you'll note below I run three versions, but run 8.0 all the time as it works the best with my setup. ( no it's a amd 1700+ on an ep-8kta3l+ MB, 32mg Nvidia card and a SB Live gamer sound card and three Hard drives. ) but I got 8.0 to run on a 486 with 32 or 48 mg or ram. give it a try and use blackbox or such for a window manager to begin with. -- Mike McNeese currently triple booting win98lite Mandrake versions 8.0 and 8.2 and testing 9.0 - Linux registered user # 248955 If obstacles are all we see, then we've lost sight of our goal! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation problems with 9.0
Using the linux expert noauto command at the prompt I'm at about 66% through file copying, which is further than I've ever gotten into the installation. I'm sure now that I've said something about it it'll crap out on me though. If so, I'll give 8.x a try, thanks. With a low ram setup all kinds of other errors tend to show up. also if you have even one flaky chip on a set of ram modules it can screw up everything. If you just want to try linux on that laptop try mandrake 7.2 or 8.0, or try one built for a 486. as you'll note below I run three versions, but run 8.0 all the time as it works the best with my setup. ( no it's a amd 1700+ on an ep-8kta3l+ MB, 32mg Nvidia card and a SB Live gamer sound card and three Hard drives. ) but I got 8.0 to run on a 486 with 32 or 48 mg or ram. give it a try and use blackbox or such for a window manager to begin with. -- Mike McNeese currently triple booting win98lite Mandrake versions 8.0 and 8.2 and testing 9.0 - Linux registered user # 248955 If obstacles are all we see, then we've lost sight of our goal! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation problems with 9.0
This probably won't help, but check in the laptop's BIOS and make sure that Plug Pray OS is turned off (if applicable). It sounds like it's having difficulty detecting your hardware. Turning this off should help. On Friday 11 October 2002 02:07 pm, Jason Drushel wrote: Hi guys, new to the list, and to Linux in general. (obviously, or I wouldn't be posting here) I finally decided to take the plunge and get into Linux, but I'm playing it safe and installing on an old (5 years or so) laptop I've had lying around not doing much. I don't want to risk losing data on my desktop systems just yet. Anyway, I was told Mandrake would be a good distro to start with since I know nothing about Linux. Here are some problems I've run into trying to install 9.0... First of all, system specs. It's a Dell Inspiron 3200, P2-233 with 32mb RAM, 4gb HD, Neologic or somesuch video card. Ok onto the problems. When I first popped in the CD and booted from it I got a menu to hit F1 or Enter to run setup. I hit Enter and it loaded up. I saw a list of command lines, then it brought me to a grey pattern screen with an X cursor. And there it sat. Perpetually. I was forced to reboot after 10 minutes of that. So I'm thinking ok, maybe it was a fluke, I'll just try running setup again. Same thing. I then tried other installation options. I tried vgalo first, no dice. I then tried expert, and voila. The grey pattern screen came up, but this time it was quickly followed by a blue screen. (I also tried text mode, but not until later on) Here are where the real problems started. It asked me about third party kernels, which I said no to, then it brought me into the installation screen, or second stage install ,whatever you want to call it. It got through PCMCIA detection just fine, but when it hit IDE detection I got an error message. An error has occurred insmod'ing module sr_mod failed. I clicked OK a few times and eventually it detected the hard drive. I was now at the partitioning section. First attempt yielded a failure to format after the partitions had been selected. Second attempt everything worked. Great, now I got to pick my packages I wanted to install. Next came copying files, I was finally on my way. Then halfway through it kicked me out to the command prompt (or whatever it's called in Linux) with some error messages that I didn't write down. At the time of this writing, it's a di-roll whether I can even get to the sr_mod failed error message. Sometimes it locks before the grey pattern screen, sometimes it locks at the grey-pattern screen, sometimes it gets to the sr_mod failed error, sometimes I can even get to the partition section. But never past that. I first thought there was something about this laptop's hard drive or possibly IDE controller that Mandrake didn't like, but a quick Google search showed that some people were successfully running Mandrake (version 8.1, but still) on their Dell Inspiron 3200s. They didn't say if they had to do anything special to get it working, but it was working. So what am I to do? I'm at my wit's end here and I'm almost ready to give up and reinstall Windows 98. But not yet... Any suggestions? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation problems with 9.0
You were right the first time, it didn't help. :-p I downloaded 8.2 and went to install it, but half of the installation menu came up (yes, half) before giving me a boot failed message. May be the blanks I'm using, because the CD reads fine in my desktop systems. But still no luck for me in the Linux department in general. Drushel At 06:19 PM 10/11/2002 -0700, you wrote: This probably won't help, but check in the laptop's BIOS and make sure that Plug Pray OS is turned off (if applicable). It sounds like it's having difficulty detecting your hardware. Turning this off should help. On Friday 11 October 2002 02:07 pm, Jason Drushel wrote: Hi guys, new to the list, and to Linux in general. (obviously, or I wouldn't be posting here) I finally decided to take the plunge and get into Linux, but I'm playing it safe and installing on an old (5 years or so) laptop I've had lying around not doing much. I don't want to risk losing data on my desktop systems just yet. Anyway, I was told Mandrake would be a good distro to start with since I know nothing about Linux. Here are some problems I've run into trying to install 9.0... First of all, system specs. It's a Dell Inspiron 3200, P2-233 with 32mb RAM, 4gb HD, Neologic or somesuch video card. Ok onto the problems. When I first popped in the CD and booted from it I got a menu to hit F1 or Enter to run setup. I hit Enter and it loaded up. I saw a list of command lines, then it brought me to a grey pattern screen with an X cursor. And there it sat. Perpetually. I was forced to reboot after 10 minutes of that. So I'm thinking ok, maybe it was a fluke, I'll just try running setup again. Same thing. I then tried other installation options. I tried vgalo first, no dice. I then tried expert, and voila. The grey pattern screen came up, but this time it was quickly followed by a blue screen. (I also tried text mode, but not until later on) Here are where the real problems started. It asked me about third party kernels, which I said no to, then it brought me into the installation screen, or second stage install ,whatever you want to call it. It got through PCMCIA detection just fine, but when it hit IDE detection I got an error message. An error has occurred insmod'ing module sr_mod failed. I clicked OK a few times and eventually it detected the hard drive. I was now at the partitioning section. First attempt yielded a failure to format after the partitions had been selected. Second attempt everything worked. Great, now I got to pick my packages I wanted to install. Next came copying files, I was finally on my way. Then halfway through it kicked me out to the command prompt (or whatever it's called in Linux) with some error messages that I didn't write down. At the time of this writing, it's a di-roll whether I can even get to the sr_mod failed error message. Sometimes it locks before the grey pattern screen, sometimes it locks at the grey-pattern screen, sometimes it gets to the sr_mod failed error, sometimes I can even get to the partition section. But never past that. I first thought there was something about this laptop's hard drive or possibly IDE controller that Mandrake didn't like, but a quick Google search showed that some people were successfully running Mandrake (version 8.1, but still) on their Dell Inspiron 3200s. They didn't say if they had to do anything special to get it working, but it was working. So what am I to do? I'm at my wit's end here and I'm almost ready to give up and reinstall Windows 98. But not yet... Any suggestions? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] installation problems
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:40:33 +0100 Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm actually a beginner. I've just installed Mandrake linux v.8.1 Everything seems ok but using both KDE or GNOME I get a large dotted square moving together with the cursor. Can anyone help me ? Thank You! I do not mean to insult either way by over simplifing this answer or by making it seem complicated. Open a terminal and su to root. Enter the command gedit to launch the a text ediors (there are others that can be used but I prefer gedit when woking in X) In gedit select Open and navigate to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Choose that file and it will appear in the gedit main window By either scrolling or arrow keys navigate to this section # ** # Graphics device section # ** Section Device Identifier Generic VGA Driver vga EndSection Section Device Identifier NVIDIA GeForce3 (generic) VendorName Unknown BoardName Unknown Driver nvidia # Clock lines # Uncomment following option if you see a big white block # instead of the cursor! #Option sw_cursor Option DPMS on EndSection Change this section # Uncomment following option if you see a big white block # instead of the cursor! #Option sw_cursor To this # Uncomment following option if you see a big white block # instead of the cursor! Option sw_cursor by removing # This finishes the edit so from the geidt panel menu select save, and you may then close gedit. Log out. At the login screen under the Menu setting select Restart X server. When X restarts you should have a normal cursor. Charles Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] installation problems
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:40:33 +0100 Frank wrote: I'm actually a beginner. I've just installed Mandrake linux v.8.1 Everything seems ok but using both KDE or GNOME I get a large dotted square moving together with the cursor. Can anyone help me ? Thank You! Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and look for this: # Uncomment following option if you see a big white block # instead of the cursor! #Option sw_cursor Paul -- Don't sit down and wait for the opportunities to come; you have to get up and make them. -Madame C. J. Walker http://nlpagan.net - Registered Linux User 174403 Linux Mandrake 8.0 - Sylpheed 0.7.1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] installation problems
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:40:33 +0100, Frank wrote: I'm actually a beginner. I've just installed Mandrake linux v.8.1 Everything seems ok but using both KDE or GNOME I get a large dotted square moving together with the cursor. Can anyone help me ? Thank You! Francesco Well Francesco, this is easily fixed. Supposing you really are a beginner, not - yet - knowing how to do root-editing, proceed as follows : 1. Press CtlrlAltF2 to open a terminal / console (also called a command-prompt) 2. type : su (to become root) and enter your root-password (remember that from the install - eh ?) 3. type : mc (this will open Midnight Commander, - supposing it's installed. If not, do it from the CD). 4. point it to a file called : /etc/X11/XF86Config and highlight this file. 5. press F4 to edit the file 6. Now, scroll down and locate something like Section : Graphics devices ( I don't remember the exact phrasing, cause right now I'm sitting at an OS/2 - machine. And, - yes OS/2 is alive and well !) 7. find a line that reads : # option : sw_cursor 8. remove the hash-sign (#). 9. press F2 to save the file, then F10 to quit Midnight Commander. 10. press CtrlAltBackspace to kill the X-server 11.Restart and Enjoy ! HTH Kaj Haulrich Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installation problems with 8.0
bob; when i purchased 8.0 from mandrake direct, they included an extra copy of cd 1 and cd 2 with the comment that the boxed cds were not correctly burned. you may want to talk to mandrake about it At 08:13 PM 7/19/2001 +0200, you wrote: I purchased today Mandrake 8.0 PowerPack, but the installation failed. After the first screen and booting from CD-ROM I get the following: Loading program into memory [*..] Error! Could not uncompress second stage ramdisk (press enter to proceed. The same append with expert install, also with boot disk. It seems that the system is trying to read the CD without succes. Can someone help me? Rob
Re: [newbie] Installation Problems
not a problem... I am sure you will enjoy Mandrake and all the toys. If I might make a suggestion though, to reply to the list as well, since i am only a few reinstalls ahead, and have been known to not know the best way to do something, and have learned much by being corrected on this list. I am absolutely positive that there are people out there reading this that have a much better answer to the question than my stab. as close as i can figure it (and I ain't read squat about this) Frame Buffer is a regular VGA mode that really cannot perform anywhere near as nice as a real Xwindow session (might be 16 colors frame buffer, Xwindows 16Million colors) Aurora (again, as I GUESS it to be) is the program that runs at boot and shows a pretty boot up. I (say... mandrake 7.0 and before) used to always boot with text, and you can still get that by turning off aurora and see all the stuff loading, and if you have reay fast eyes, you can read it. and if it stops long enough to read the whole page, you get to see what went right just before the problem. but I digress On Thursday 12 July 2001 18:27, you had thoughts to the concept of: Thanks for your comment (you were the only person who replied). I did another install (and reformatted the partitions) using the Expert mode. All went well and at this point everything is working (although I have been here before). I will now reboot from Win98 to linux (via Lilo) and see what happens. If i can ever get a stable system i will spend many hours familiarizing myself with linux and its approach to things. What is framebuffer and aurora? Thanks again Preston At 11:33 AM 7/12/01, you wrote: My personal preference has been to install from the expert, and install a developer install if that choice is given, see if your mouse is in the tree when a mouse selection is offered, I like to pick almost everything and shut off services I do not NEED right after install, that way I have all the files I need to compile (should I ever learn that much) and install. I can reconfigure whatever servers from webmin and run them. As far as the booting into winders goes, are you using framebuffer and aurora?. On Wednesday 11 July 2001 19:34, preston smith wrote: To anyone who can help me! Epox 8KTA3 motherboard, 128 megs RAM, ATI Xpert 2000 Pro video card with AGP (2x selected), Microsoft Optical Wheel USB mouse (in previous installs of MD 8.0 the mouse has/has not worked through both a USB port and a PS/2 port with an adapter). Installed done from the 2 CD ISO download, in the RECOMMENDED mode. I am about to try another of my reinstallations of 8.0 on freshly formatted partitions. Each time i have reinstalled, my mouse has worked as expected, has not worked at all with a frozen cursor, or has worked and then stopped working with a frozen cursor. On many of these install the install did not pick up my NIC - other times it did. Also, the system frequently told me that module xxx was missing. So, 1. Should I use the RECOMMENDED or EXPERT install format? 2. Should I go for a minimal install and gradually add more features from the 2 CD set? If so, what is the minimal configuration that will give me a GUI and network access? 3. When problems occur, what logs can I investigate to determine if the install or upgrade went well or had problems, what problem occurred to cause the mouse (or other feature) to disappear, etc. There must be a methodical and systematic way to go about doing the install and isolating problems. Another thing I noticed when i booted Win98 via LILO tonight, immediately after Lilo boots the selected OS, my screen is totally scrambled until the Win98 blue screen comes. I have noticed this a couple of times in recent days (in fact its occurrence may coincide with the mouse problem). Any and all help appreciated. Preston --- Betti Ann Preston Smith Head of St Margaret's Bay, NS [EMAIL PROTECTED] MGB RV Owners --- Betti Ann Preston Smith Head of St Margaret's Bay, NS [EMAIL PROTECTED] MGB RV Owners
RE: [newbie] installation problems with L.M. 7.0
DO you plan to dual boot this machine or use just for Linux? If you plan to just run linux (which sounds best on this machine), you could try fdisk first, try reformatting the drive. Also, make sure that your system is not using EZ-BIOS to access the hard drive, I've heard Linux does not like this. If you resolve this, please let me know. I vaguely remember having this problem on an old computer I was playing arround with once. I never resolved the problem, though. I got busy with something else. I'll give it a ty again and see if I can figure it out. Good luckl. -Paul R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan A. Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] installation problems with L.M. 7.0 I am trying to install L.M 7.0 on a Pent. 75/16mb ram 1.2GB hd - the cd auto starts, asks lang.,KB, type of install, but stops with an error; "no partitions available" the drive is currently formated fat32, 1 partition. DRAX does not start, and there does not seem to be a way of getting past the error. I have tried creating a boot disk with the cd boot .img, but when using the boot disk, the computer does not see the CD-Rom drive. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Installation problems...
ok...first thing...if you're not already boot CDROM as opposed to using a floppy to boot from to do the install. that seems to work much better. second...try using the text mode for installation. it goes much faster and smoother. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 1299563 On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Bouropoulos Andreas wrote: Hello there, I have some trouble installing Mandrake on my system and would like some help. The problem is that, when I boot from a disk (being created by rawrite using cdrom.img), installation starts normally, and I get into the graphical user interface. I select the keyboard map and stuff, but when the installer reaches the 'SCSI detection' step the system freezes. I downloaded the patch you give, and put it in the boot disk under the name 'patch.pl'. At the boot prompt, I entered 'linux patch' as it is said, but still, the problem persists, and the system freezes when it reaches the 'SCSI detection' step. What do I have to do to make the patch work? Also, I tried to install Mandrake using the 'txt_boot.img'. In this case, the installation of packages would finish, but then again I would have problem starting the X server. I choose the monitor from the list, and then it detects my graphics card correctly. When it tries to start the X server for testing my settings, the screen would blink a few times, and then a message would appear saying that an error occurred and X server could not be started. I would appreciate it if you could help me a little bit and tell me what to do. Below is my system description in case you need it: Pentium-MMX 166MHz 48MB RAM Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 2MB (BIOS 1.04, rev L) Opti 924 Soundcard and I have three hard disks: 1GB (FAT32), 528MB (on which I install linux) and 100MB(FAT). Sony CDROM 2x Modem 56KBps Also, the installer freezes at the SCSI detection step, on the Celeron-466MHz I use. Thanks for your help.
Re: [newbie] Installation problems still.....
Try installing "safely" by that I mean, don't configure any network or printers (skip the bootdisk ect) Anything to get through the installer faster. Handle X configuration after install. (I only give this advice on a very onry system). I'd also suggest saying NO when it asks you if you have any scsi devices. Chances are all of your problems are coming from one single peice of hardware in your system. (Have you checked to see if your SCSI controller is on the Linux hardware compatibility list?) Also duing the install you can hit CNTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to break out of the graphical installer, hit enter a couple of dozen times then you'll get a command prompt you can work with (VERY useful for recovering an overwritten boot sector). -David Talbot On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, you wrote: Hello there, as I wrote to my previous e-mail, I'm unable to install Mandrake because the graphical installer just freezes in the SCSI setup step. I tried the text mode installation, but then again the problem is that when it tries to launch X Server (after configuring CORRECTLY my graphics card and monitor), it returns to the text mode saying that an error occured and X server was unable to run. I forgot to mention in my previous e-mail that I CANNOT boot from my Cdrom although the motherboard supports booting from a CDROM. I know that Mandrake CD is bootable...my CD just cannot boot from ANY cdrom. (I tried using a 16x Toshiba and that cannot autoboot either). So, the problem is, that I cannot boot from the cd, and I HAVE to boot using a floppy disk. Also, another problem I met yesterday was that, after I finished installing Mandrake without the X-Server and the system would start normally, then at the login prompt, it would refuse to accept my password although I would type it correctly (no caps lock was on...). I reinstalled Mandrake, and put some silly password like '123456' and still I was not able to get in as root. Any suggestions people? I've tried to install Mandrake over 20 times and on 2 different configurations and I wouldn't have luck... Thanks for your time. Below is my system description in case you need it: Pentium-MMX 166MHz 48MB RAM Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 2MB (BIOS 1.04, rev L) Opti 924 Soundcard and I have three hard disks: 1GB (FAT32), 528MB (on which I install linux) and 100MB(FAT). Sony CDROM 2x Modem 56KBps __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- -David Talbot Those who would trade freedom for security deserve neither. -B. Franklin
Re: [newbie] Installation problems...
You are right. Don't do the X test. And SCSI test if you haven't. All goes well. Eric Bouropoulos Andreas wrote: Hello there, I have some trouble installing Mandrake on my system and would like some help. The problem is that, when I boot from a disk (being created by rawrite using cdrom.img), installation starts normally, and I get into the graphical user interface. I select the keyboard map and stuff, but when the installer reaches the 'SCSI detection' step the system freezes. I downloaded the patch you give, and put it in the boot disk under the name 'patch.pl'. At the boot prompt, I entered 'linux patch' as it is said, but still, the problem persists, and the system freezes when it reaches the 'SCSI detection' step. What do I have to do to make the patch work? Also, I tried to install Mandrake using the 'txt_boot.img'. In this case, the installation of packages would finish, but then again I would have problem starting the X server. I choose the monitor from the list, and then it detects my graphics card correctly. When it tries to start the X server for testing my settings, the screen would blink a few times, and then a message would appear saying that an error occurred and X server could not be started. I would appreciate it if you could help me a little bit and tell me what to do. Below is my system description in case you need it: Pentium-MMX 166MHz 48MB RAM Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 2MB (BIOS 1.04, rev L) Opti 924 Soundcard and I have three hard disks: 1GB (FAT32), 528MB (on which I install linux) and 100MB(FAT). Sony CDROM 2x Modem 56KBps Also, the installer freezes at the SCSI detection step, on the Celeron-466MHz I use. Thanks for your help.
Re: [newbie] Installation problems still.....
On 30 Jun 00, at 14:45, Andreas B. wrote: CD is bootable...my CD just cannot boot from ANY cdrom. (I tried using a 16x Toshiba and that cannot autoboot either). The controls fo booting from the CD are in the BIOS. When you start your machine and the RAM check is going on, press the DEL key, that should drop you into the BIOS. Change the boot sequence so that CDROM is 1st. Also, another problem I met yesterday was that, after I finished installing Mandrake without the X-Server and the system would start normally, then at the login prompt, it would refuse to accept my password although I would type it correctly (no caps lock was on...). You have company!! I had a similar problem with an install. This happened specifically I used the text mode setup, chose to install "everything", and did not configure X. When it did'nt take root password, I thought I had done something silly like forgetting my password or typing it wrong during install. Finally did the dirty thing, booting into runlevel 1 at lilo prompt and set things right. This was with Mandrake 7.0 Sthitaprajna | (at)mailandnews(dot)com
Re: [newbie] Installation problems...
I tried installing MDK7.0 and 7.1 from my CD and it installed perfectly. Roman Mark Weaver wrote: ok...first thing...if you're not already boot CDROM as opposed to using a floppy to boot from to do the install. that seems to work much better. second...try using the text mode for installation. it goes much faster and smoother. -- Mark I love my Linux Box... REASON # 2 ...X-windows is just a suedonym. Registered Linux user # 1299563 On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Bouropoulos Andreas wrote: Hello there, I have some trouble installing Mandrake on my system and would like some help. The problem is that, when I boot from a disk (being created by rawrite using cdrom.img), installation starts normally, and I get into the graphical user interface. I select the keyboard map and stuff, but when the installer reaches the 'SCSI detection' step the system freezes. I downloaded the patch you give, and put it in the boot disk under the name 'patch.pl'. At the boot prompt, I entered 'linux patch' as it is said, but still, the problem persists, and the system freezes when it reaches the 'SCSI detection' step. What do I have to do to make the patch work? Also, I tried to install Mandrake using the 'txt_boot.img'. In this case, the installation of packages would finish, but then again I would have problem starting the X server. I choose the monitor from the list, and then it detects my graphics card correctly. When it tries to start the X server for testing my settings, the screen would blink a few times, and then a message would appear saying that an error occurred and X server could not be started. I would appreciate it if you could help me a little bit and tell me what to do. Below is my system description in case you need it: Pentium-MMX 166MHz 48MB RAM Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 2MB (BIOS 1.04, rev L) Opti 924 Soundcard and I have three hard disks: 1GB (FAT32), 528MB (on which I install linux) and 100MB(FAT). Sony CDROM 2x Modem 56KBps Also, the installer freezes at the SCSI detection step, on the Celeron-466MHz I use. Thanks for your help.
Re: [newbie] Installation problems still.....
Depending on the motherboard CMOS (the motherboard BIOS) is often reached by DEL. But on some motherboards it could be F2, F10 or many other possibilities. Depending on the capabilities of the BIOS it may or may not be possible to set the CD ROM to boot. -Gary- In a message dated 6/30/2000 12:37:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The controls fo booting from the CD are in the BIOS. When you start your machine and the RAM check is going on, press the DEL key, that should drop you into the BIOS. Change the boot sequence so that CDROM is 1st.
Re: [newbie] Installation problems
If it came as a cover CD I will be surprised if it is i486 - suggest you go to Mandrake's website and download the version you need On Wed, 03 May 2000, you wrote: Andy, thanks for your help, but the CD I have came with a magazine. It's called MDK 7.02, but how can I verify if it is i486iso? Andy wrote: Did you download or make sure it was the i486iso? I get that Soceket error when the resolutions are too high or some configurations arent right
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Rodrigodownload the 486 version of the 7.0-2 iso image and install it instead. Alan wrote: Hi people! I'm new here, and, unhappily, I'm in need of some help... I tried to install Mandrake 7.02 in my 486 (yeah, believe, a 486... they still exist...) through different ways. Both failed... First I tried the graphic installation, with the cdrom.img. Setup freezes with Initialization CD... Then, the text instalation. It did very well, untill it tried to install the bootloader. I was presented with the following message: I cannot run /bin/insmod :No such file or directory Then, I go a patch at linux-mandrake page. Trying graphic install again, it gave a new error message, just after starting the second stage of install. _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno 111 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno 111 Tue May 2 01:41:38 2000 Gtk-Warning **: cannot open display: :0 at /usr/bin/perl-install/my_gtk.pm line 239 install exited abnormally and then some kill signals and removing temporary files... Friends, if someone knows what is happenig, please, tell me as fast as possible! I had to reinstall ruindows! I'll be very grateful for those who send any suggestion! []'s! PS: Sorry if my english is so dificult to understand. Rodrigo Fontes Ribeiro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Andy, thanks for your help, but the CD I have came with a magazine. It's called MDK 7.02, but how can I verify if it is i486iso? Andy wrote: Did you download or make sure it was the i486iso? I get that Soceket error when the resolutions are too high or some configurations arent right
Re: [newbie] Installation problems
Oh yeah if you happen to be downloading it from there as i am now and using one of those programs that save the spot at where you were at in the download go with the one from Europe i think its like ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/ because the others dont seem to reconnect if you get disconnected. - Original Message - From: Alan Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Installation problems Rodrigodownload the 486 version of the 7.0-2 iso image and install it instead. Alan wrote: Hi people! I'm new here, and, unhappily, I'm in need of some help... I tried to install Mandrake 7.02 in my 486 (yeah, believe, a 486... they still exist...) through different ways. Both failed... First I tried the graphic installation, with the cdrom.img. Setup freezes with Initialization CD... Then, the text instalation. It did very well, untill it tried to install the bootloader. I was presented with the following message: I cannot run /bin/insmod :No such file or directory Then, I go a patch at linux-mandrake page. Trying graphic install again, it gave a new error message, just after starting the second stage of install. _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno 111 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno 111 Tue May 2 01:41:38 2000 Gtk-Warning **: cannot open display: :0 at /usr/bin/perl-install/my_gtk.pm line 239 install exited abnormally and then some kill signals and removing temporary files... Friends, if someone knows what is happenig, please, tell me as fast as possible! I had to reinstall ruindows! I'll be very grateful for those who send any suggestion! []'s! PS: Sorry if my english is so dificult to understand. Rodrigo Fontes Ribeiro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
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Actually im not really sure :) Does anyone know if the ones that come with magazines are i586? Id expect they would be as the "newer" computers come out. And im guessin you'll be stuck downloading the i486iso. Ive already downloaded the i586 and onto the i486 for my 486. And boy is it fun on a 56k. - Original Message - From: Rodrigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Installation problems Andy, thanks for your help, but the CD I have came with a magazine. It's called MDK 7.02, but how can I verify if it is i486iso? Andy wrote: Did you download or make sure it was the i486iso? I get that Soceket error when the resolutions are too high or some configurations arent right _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
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Oh yeah also im guessing that yours isnt in the iso format. - Original Message - From: Rodrigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Installation problems Andy, thanks for your help, but the CD I have came with a magazine. It's called MDK 7.02, but how can I verify if it is i486iso? Andy wrote: Did you download or make sure it was the i486iso? I get that Soceket error when the resolutions are too high or some configurations arent right _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
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Rodrigoit is not the i486 iso image. The i486 iso image is only available for download from Mandrake mirror sites. Nobody has commercially burned the i486 iso image onto a CD. The way you can tell if it's 486 is that is that all of the rpms will have 486 as part of their file name. for instance, here's the filename of the first rpm in the /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/ directory on a 7.0-2 CD. AfterStep-1.7.142-5mdk.i586.rpm, but if that CD were an i486 iso image CD then the filename would be AfterStep-1.7.142-5mdk.i486.rpm instead, as would all of the binary rpms on the CD. Alan Rodrigo wrote: Andy, thanks for your help, but the CD I have came with a magazine. It's called MDK 7.02, but how can I verify if it is i486iso? Andy wrote: Did you download or make sure it was the i486iso? I get that Soceket error when the resolutions are too high or some configurations arent right
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run "XF86Setup". and "Setup" by simply typing it in without quotes. Then see if it will work.You need to be in root _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ya - well here is my sad sad story I bought Mandrake 7.0 on Sunday, and I've been working on installing it properly since. I've already ditched a class, and I'm going to not go to school again tonight, just so I can install linux. hm. Bad, bad boy! :-) If you're following informatic classes, maybe you'd better go to school... My system: 12 gig hard-drive, Pentium II 400, 64 mb memory My problem: so far I've only been able to install the whwhole thing once, and even then I couldn't get my KDE up. Everytime I try to install it, I get a different patter of errors. For example, I go through all the steps, and then when I try to create a boot disk it says it failed. These are the following errors I get: can't find dumpkey, can't config timezone, can't find base packages or the system freezes all together. Can someone pretty pretty please help me. If you made each time the same manipulation and got different errors, maybe it's a hardware problem. (you should also specify your video card when you describe your system) If you didn't, please explain more clearly what you did and where the errors did occur. Also check that you have a 7.0-2 version (not a 7.0) The one time that I did get to finish my installation, I was able to get a graphical login. I logged in and all I saw was two screens, one being xterm, and the other I'm not sure about. I also had a neat clock on the upper right. I was unable to see the kde desktop. In the manual it said if all went well I should see a kde desktop, so I figured all didn't go well =( I suppose it's because you just didn't install KDE. I'll spend another 6 hours tonight, figuring it out - thanks in advance Keep on trying, and remember that sometimes (nearly always), you better take time to read the doc than blindly trying anything without knowing what you are doing. There are documentations about the installation on the CD. HTH Flupke
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Dean Gentry wrote: I went from susie to mandrake and it was hell. I lost everything and started over. Once i started over everything went fine, but all of may data was lost. Upgrading was impossible for me. Personally, I don't think you will find much of a solution here. And it's all Mandrake's fault. -Stephen-
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Dean Gentry wrote: I went from susie to mandrake and it was hell. I lost everything and started over. Once i started over everything went fine, but all of may data was lost. Upgrading was impossible for me. Personally, I don't think you will find much of a solution here. I should note that Mandrake, strictly speaking, should only be used to upgrade *Mandrake*. I'm not surprised your system exploded. -Stephen- PS: It helps if you keep your personal data on a separate /home partition, that makes upgrading a lot safer and a lot more painless.
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kerroppa kerokero wrote: It went fine until it asked for creating a boot disk. I tied to create a boot disk but got an error message everytime I attempt to create one. ARGH again -- I'll just guess, okay? It's because of the position of the planetary alignment, that's why it doesn't work. Please -- tell us *what* error message you got -- until I know what the error is, I'll be just as clueless as you are about it. Also, when I attempt to install LILO on MBR, I get an error and couldn't install LILO at all. *what* error? -Stephen-
Re: [newbie] Installation Problems
edward tharp wrote: just a thought... if you only need the webserverwhy run x at all? --Original Message-- From: "Congdon, Christopher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 29, 2000 3:32:19 PM GMT Subject: [newbie] Installation Problems I've been trying install the Secure Server Edition of Mandrake 7.0 (That's the Macmillan Publishing version I bought at CompUSA). The system I'm installing to is an Intergraph TD-4. It's a Dual Pentium 90 with 96MB RAM. It has NCR SCSI (I'm not sure what chipset). with a Toshiba CD-ROM [ID4], a Conner 1.0GB [ID1], and a Micropolis 4.3GB [ID0]. It has a built-in NIC, but I have no clue what it is... (I know, I really need to take a closer look at the motherboard...) Anyways, the problem with installing is actually the video card. Originally, it had a Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM PCI. The install got all the way to the last step, Configuring X. It then spit out an error that said it couldn't find Server_S3. I replace the vid card with a PCI Trident Chipset, and I also tried another with a PCI Tseng Chipset. Both times, I resinstalled completely, and got to the same spot at the end and got back that it couldn't find Server_SVGA. Any ideas? Are these vid cards just so cheesey that they won't work or something? I'm not to keen on digging up a higher-end PCI vid card for something that is just bascially going to sit around and be a minor web server for me Christopher Christopher I agree with Edward, almost said so when you first posted this. But, I have had a creative thought about this. Just for fun, why not try the xvfb (X virtual Frame Buffer) server. Don't set init to 5 until you are sure what startx will do. Install vncserver (on disk most likely) and svncviewer. Once you have the xvfb server tested you can run kdm and login as either root or user to start vncserver -query localhost. Now you should be able to run svncviewer localhost:1 (or whatever display number comes up) to see it locally, or sit down at your mac/windoze/etc workstation and run your X from across the room. Turn your computor off, go home and reconnect to exact same screen you left, pick up in mid word. FUN FUN FUN eh?
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FWIW I'm using the ATI Expert98 too and never a problem. But Mandrake 7.0 did not auto-detect it during install. Jim "bryan pryor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm really new to this, but I had a Trident 975 AGP vid card, and try as i might, i could not get it to work. I went out and bought an ATI Expert98 PCI vid card for $50, and it works beautifully. Hope this helps. bryan. I've been trying install the Secure Server Edition of Mandrake 7.0 (That's the Macmillan Publishing version I bought at CompUSA). The system I'm installing to is an Intergraph TD-4. It's a Dual Pentium 90 with 96MB RAM. It has NCR SCSI (I'm not sure what chipset). with a Toshiba CD-ROM [ID4], a Conner 1.0GB [ID1], and a Micropolis 4.3GB [ID0]. It has a built-in NIC, but I have no clue what it is... (I know, I really need to take a closer look at the motherboard...) Anyways, the problem with installing is actually the video card. Originally, it had a Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM PCI. The install got all the way to the last step, Configuring X. It then spit out an error that said it couldn't find Server_S3. I replace the vid card with a PCI Trident Chipset, and I also tried another with a PCI Tseng Chipset. Both times, I resinstalled completely, and got to the same spot at the end and got back that it couldn't find Server_SVGA. Any ideas? Are these vid cards just so cheesey that they won't work or something? I'm not to keen on digging up a higher-end PCI vid card for something that is just bascially going to sit around and be a minor web server for me Christopher __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Installation problems on laptop
Here is how I would try it. (doesn't mean it will work, let us know!) If you have windoze on it, skip to copy files I would grab a dos systems disk with fdisk.exe on it and put a dos partition. format it for dos with: format c: /s copy loadlin.exe and txt_boot.img off the cd (leave cd in drive) write a batchfile install.bat loadlin txt_boot.img during install remove dos partition. (Unless of course you want to save it) James Riches wrote: Hi. Im having some problems installing Mandrake Linux 7.0 on my Texas Instruments laptop and Id appreciate some help. I realise that laptops can be very problematic, but its all I have at the moment, so I would like to install linux on it if possible. Ill explain the history of my problems a bit so that noone wastes their time writing answers that I already know. However, my main questions involve being able to run the autoboot (from DOS) in text mode, and also the files necessary for an installation from the hard drive (in a DOS partition). My laptop can only have the CD _or_ the floppy drive in at the one time, not both. And as my CDROM is not bootable, I thought that the 2nd installation option (running autoboot from DOS) would be best. At first I had problems with it hanging, but that was resolved with the new autoboot file from the Mandrake website. However, a later problem with an error number 111 (errno=111) cropped up and I was told that it was a problem recognising my monitor or video card. I was also told that it could be avoided by running the installation in text mode. I couldnt see how to do that with the autoboot file, so I moved onto the next installation mode. Next problem was the text mode installation. I copied the boot_txt.img file onto a floppy (with rawrite) and the installation went swimmingly until it asked me to insert the CDROM, or where it was, or something similar. Now, I cant boot from a floppy and then change the floppy and the CDROM over, so I cant see how I can proceed that way. I thought about an installation from the hard drive, but I dont have that much space, and I wouldnt be able to copy all of the files from the CD to the hard drive. If there were only about 100MB of files to copy and I knew which ones they were, then it would be OK, but at the moment it doesnt seem to be an option. So, eventually, we come to my questions. 1. Does anyone know a way to get autoboot to run in text mode? That would, I believe, solve all of my problems. 2. What are the minimum files that must be loaded onto the hard drive for this installation, and how do you get this method to run in text mode? (with the boot_txt.img that I made, it seemed to assume that it was to be a loading from CDROM) 3. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Id prefer not to have to use another distribution, like Debian, if possible, as I have the Mandrake disk here. So, if anyone can help me with my problem, Id really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Jamie
Re: [newbie] installation problems- Adaptec SCSI card
Im having the same problem.. lemme know if you get some help.. I tried reading the how -tos and i cant figure it out. Someone told me to type a command line in at the lilo boot thing, but it still doesnt work..?? any help would be appreciated!! thanks..:) Paul -- W A R N I N G ! ** Linux should not be used by those under the influence of MicroSoft. May cause dizziness or vertigo. Consult your tech support before using Linux. (note--after using Linux, you may notice extreme discomfort when using MicroSoft. Discontinue use of MicroSoft.) ** W A R N I N G ! - Original Message - From: Michael Wagg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 3:18 PM Subject: [newbie] installation problems- Adaptec SCSI card I am trying to install Linux Mandrake 7.0 using a SCSI CD-ROM drive with an Adaptec AHA-1520b host adapter (Ali Aladdin V chipset), but I'm unable to have the installer recognize my SCSI card. I realize that such ISA Plug 'N Play cards can be problematic, but am having no luck in disabling the cards Plug 'N Play settings or modifying my CMOS setup. I know this family of cards is supported by the software, but how can I get it to recognize my adapter?
Re: [newbie] installation problems- Adaptec SCSI card
Linux/Mandrake 7.0 said to 'DISABLE' PNP in the CMOS before installing the system. don I thought I knew that I knew what I thought But now I know that what I thought I knew Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew. On Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:18:20 -0500 "Michael Wagg" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am trying to install Linux Mandrake 7.0 using a SCSI CD-ROM drive with an Adaptec AHA-1520b host adapter (Ali Aladdin V chipset), but I'm unable to have the installer recognize my SCSI card. I realize that such ISA Plug 'N Play cards can be problematic, but am having no luck in disabling the cards Plug 'N Play settings or modifying my CMOS setup. I know this family of cards is supported by the software, but how can I get it to recognize my adapter? YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
RE: [newbie] Installation Problems
I had some mouse problems installing RH6 (not MDK). Even though the installer supposedly recognized everything correctly, the solution was to manually configure the mouse and keyboard. Go figure! ** Paul L. Kaplan, Ph.D., M.B.A. Program Manager, Neurosciences Creative BioMolecules (www.creativebio.com http://www.creativebio.com ) Suite 2400 101 Huntington Avenue Boston, MA 02199 Ph: 617-912-2972 Fx: 617-912-2991 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Matt Arturi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 2:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] Installation Problems Hello 1. Every second time that I reboot, the Mouse becomes the Keyboard and vice versa. In other words, when I move the mouse it's interpreted as keystrokes and vice versa making it impossible to login for obvious reasons. 2. When #1 isn't happening, I'm able to login. I start up in KDE and evrything seems alright except that none of the devices mount or dismount properly and after a while everything just freezes up and it becomes impossible to shut down correctly forcing me to have to reinstall the whole OS. I've gone through this cycle about ten times. All of my hardware is supported by Linux-Mandrake and I have been following the install procedure word for word. If you can shed any light, it would be greatly appreciated.
Re: [newbie] Installation problems - cd-rom unable to be found
Vishaal Kapoor wrote: I've just purchases the The Complete Linux Operating System 6.0 software package and I am having trouble with installation. I thought maybe someone could help me out. I am having trouble in the installation process after choosing an installation from Local cd-rom and Other CDROM. After this point, I have to choose the driver for the cdrom drive. I have an aztech cdrom drive, but when I choose this option (or any other) I receive the error message "I can't find the device anywhere on your system!" I solved a similar problem using the updated boot.img. You can find it in a Mandrake mirror site in the directtory updates/6.0/images. You have to copy it on a floppy using dd (Linux) or rawrite (dos) and then to boot from the floppy. bye, Andrea
