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Hi, I am still on my learning curve here... but in case there are other newbies viewing this thread... I am finding this site useful. man rpm etc was just a bit too advanced without this basic intro: http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/basics/brpm.html Walter Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fw: Re: [newbie] Installing files
~~~ Now I'd like to upgrade xfree86 4.1.0 to 4.2.0 I have tried, but the dependencies are horrendous... where to from here? Walter Why? What will 4.2.0 do for you that 4.1.0 does not? I can understand upgrading Evolution. The older version has some nasty bugs, but what is wrong with XFree86 that requires an upgrade? BTW: If you want to upgrade Evolution I recommend using Texstar's RPM's. They are compiled for 8.1 and will not have half as many dependencies as Cooker RPMS. All the required RPM's are in his Evolution Directory. ftp://ftp.eastwind.net/pub/mirrors/texstar/ derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Derek Jennings wrote: Why? What will 4.2.0 do for you that 4.1.0 does not? I can understand upgrading Evolution. The older version has some nasty bugs, but what is wrong with XFree86 that requires an upgrade? Derek, Some video cards that were supported under 3.3.6 but not under 4.1 are supported again under 4.2 (or so I understand). Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Thursday 07 February 2002 12:58, Derek Jennings wrote: ~~~ Now I'd like to upgrade xfree86 4.1.0 to 4.2.0 I have tried, but the dependencies are horrendous... where to from here? Walter Why? What will 4.2.0 do for you that 4.1.0 does not? I can understand upgrading Evolution. The older version has some nasty bugs, but what is wrong with XFree86 that requires an upgrade? Nothing AFAIK. But I wanted to update something else that required 4.2.x. Long forgotten what it was ... Besides, I am obsessive about staying on the bleeding edge. Ya gotta problem with that? g -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC ...hey, at least a wild goose chase gives you some exercise-Neal Stephenson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Thursday 07 February 2002 21:11, Michel Clasquin wrote: On Thursday 07 February 2002 12:58, Derek Jennings wrote: ~~~ Now I'd like to upgrade xfree86 4.1.0 to 4.2.0 I have tried, but the dependencies are horrendous... where to from here? Walter Why? What will 4.2.0 do for you that 4.1.0 does not? I can understand upgrading Evolution. The older version has some nasty bugs, but what is wrong with XFree86 that requires an upgrade? Nothing AFAIK. But I wanted to update something else that required 4.2.x. Long forgotten what it was ... Besides, I am obsessive about staying on the bleeding edge. Ya gotta problem with that? g None at all... But I thought the comment was from Walter, and since he stated he wanted a stable machine, and had already been struggling with installing RPM's I wondered why he was so keen to upgrade XFree. I well remember the chill of fear when I first tried updating XFree and discovered I had screwed up my graphical environment. :( derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing files
i use rpmdrake once in a while but mainly use the commandline rpm. read the manpage to learn more but here is the short end of it Thanks for this - i am preferring the command line already for this... if for no other reason than I can copy out the messages from it! I am getting pretty much the same results as before. I am still trying to upgrade xmms - first i did rpm -iv xmms-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm but realised that i might need to do an upgrade and then did the following: # rpm -Uv xmms-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm error: failed dependencies: xmms = 1.2.5-4mdk is needed by xmms-esd-1.2.5-4mdk xmms = 1.2.5-4mdk is needed by xmms-gnome-1.2.5-4mdk xmms = 1.2.5-4mdk is needed by xmms-mikmod-1.2.5-4mdk 426 root@psybernet:/home/walter/wldownloads/xmms (12:25:22) # This leaves me confused as to what it is telling me and what to do now. It seems the old xmms is needed by some of the files that support it??? Walter Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing files
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 12:59:09 +1300 Walter Logeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] revealed these words to me: i use rpmdrake once in a while but mainly use the commandline rpm. read the manpage to learn more but here is the short end of it Thanks for this - i am preferring the command line already for this... if for no other reason than I can copy out the messages from it! I am getting pretty much the same results as before. I am still trying to upgrade xmms - first i did rpm -iv xmms-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm but realised that i might need to do an upgrade and then did the following: # rpm -Uv xmms-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm error: failed dependencies: xmms = 1.2.5-4mdk is needed by xmms-esd-1.2.5-4mdk xmms = 1.2.5-4mdk is needed by xmms-gnome-1.2.5-4mdk xmms = 1.2.5-4mdk is needed by xmms-mikmod-1.2.5-4mdk 426 root@psybernet:/home/walter/wldownloads/xmms (12:25:22) # This leaves me confused as to what it is telling me and what to do now. It seems the old xmms is needed by some of the files that support it??? Walter well you are using a cooker rpm so it is not uncommon to meet those kind of dependency checks. if you are really sure you want to install that ( like if you think the other apps would not mind seeing a newer version, or you would like to see what would happen *evil grin*) _experimental_ package then you could do rpm -Fv xmms-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm --nodeps which means there will be no dependency checks when upgrading or installing a package. this is where the fun begins as you will see if everything will run fine or you will have to re-install the old package. i think the command will be something like (im expecting the more experienced users out there will correct me on this one as i dont use it often enough and basing this on the manpage) rpm -Fv [old but working xmms package] [--force | --allfiles ] ciao! -- Programming, an artform that fights back. = Anuerin G. Diaz Design Engineer Millennium Software, Incorporated 2305 B West Tower, Philippines Stocks Exchange Center, Exchange Road, Ortigas Center, Pasig City Tel# 638-3070 loc. 72 Fax# 638-3079 = Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing files
Hi again, I dont want ro do the nodependency check thing -- i want this to be a stable machine. Also i want to do a more serious xfree86 upgrade and need to grasp all this. # rpm -Uv xmms-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm error: failed dependencies: xmms = 1.2.5-4mdk is needed by xmms-esd-1.2.5-4mdk xmms = 1.2.5-4mdk is needed by xmms-gnome-1.2.5-4mdk xmms = 1.2.5-4mdk is needed by xmms-mikmod-1.2.5-4mdk 426 root@psybernet:/home/walter/wldownloads/xmms (12:25:22) # This leaves me confused as to what it is telling me and what to do now. The thing is i have xmms-esd-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm xmms-gnome-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm mikmod-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm all sitting here in rpm awaiting installation... can i install them all at once so there is no depencency? Walter Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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On Wednesday 06 February 2002 13:44, Walter Logeman wrote: Hi again, I dont want ro do the nodependency check thing -- i want this to be a stable machine. Also i want to do a more serious xfree86 upgrade and need to grasp all this. Walter.. When in a hole the best advice is to stop digging The 'safest' way to get your xmms running is to go back to the version on the 8.1 disc. To do this just put your Disc #1 in the drive, mount it, and do this:- [derek@Derek derek]$ cd /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS [derek@Derek RPMS]$ su Password: [root@Derek RPMS]# rpm -Uvh --oldpackage xmms* Preparing...### [100%] package xmms-1.2.5-4mdk is already installed package xmms-arts-0.4-6mdk is already installed package xmms-esd-1.2.5-4mdk is already installed package xmms-gnome-1.2.5-4mdk is already installed package xmms-mesa-1.2.5-4mdk is already installed package xmms-mikmod-1.2.5-4mdk is already installed package xmms-smpeg-0.3.4-4mdk is already installed [root@Derek RPMS]# This command will replace any package beginning with xmms even if the current version is newer than the one to be installed. You can use this command to reverse any of the other RPM's you have installed as well. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing files
On Wednesday 06 February 2002 15:44, Walter Logeman wrote: Hi again, I dont want ro do the nodependency check thing -- i want this to be a stable machine. Also i want to do a more serious xfree86 upgrade and need to grasp all this. # rpm -Uv xmms-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm error: failed dependencies: xmms = 1.2.5-4mdk is needed by xmms-esd-1.2.5-4mdk xmms = 1.2.5-4mdk is needed by xmms-gnome-1.2.5-4mdk xmms = 1.2.5-4mdk is needed by xmms-mikmod-1.2.5-4mdk 426 root@psybernet:/home/walter/wldownloads/xmms (12:25:22) # This leaves me confused as to what it is telling me and what to do now. The thing is i have xmms-esd-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm xmms-gnome-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm mikmod-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm all sitting here in rpm awaiting installation... can i install them all at once so there is no depencency? Yes. You can issue this command rpm -Uvh --test xmms* mikmod* If you see no error messages, repeat without the --test -- Michel Clasquin, D Litt et Phil (Unisa) [EMAIL PROTECTED]/unisa.ac.za http://www.geocities.com/clasqm This message was posted from a Microsoft-free PC ...hey, at least a wild goose chase gives you some exercise-Neal Stephenson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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El Mié 06 Feb 2002 21:27, escribió: On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 12:59:09 +1300 Walter Logeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] revealed these words to me: i use rpmdrake once in a while but mainly use the commandline rpm. read the manpage to learn more but here is the short end of it Thanks for this - i am preferring the command line already for this... if for no other reason than I can copy out the messages from it! I am getting pretty much the same results as before. I am still trying to upgrade xmms - first i did rpm -iv xmms-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm but realised that i might need to do an upgrade and then did the following: # rpm -Uv xmms-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm error: failed dependencies: xmms = 1.2.5-4mdk is needed by xmms-esd-1.2.5-4mdk xmms = 1.2.5-4mdk is needed by xmms-gnome-1.2.5-4mdk xmms = 1.2.5-4mdk is needed by xmms-mikmod-1.2.5-4mdk 426 root@psybernet:/home/walter/wldownloads/xmms (12:25:22) # This leaves me confused as to what it is telling me and what to do now. It seems the old xmms is needed by some of the files that support it??? Walter well you are using a cooker rpm so it is not uncommon to meet those kind of dependency checks. if you are really sure you want to install that ( like if you think the other apps would not mind seeing a newer version, or you would like to see what would happen *evil grin*) _experimental_ package then you could do rpm -Fv xmms-1.2.6-1.i386.rpm --nodeps which means there will be no dependency checks when upgrading or installing a package. this is where the fun begins as you will see if everything will run fine or you will have to re-install the old package. i think the command will be something like (im expecting the more experienced users out there will correct me on this one as i dont use it often enough and basing this on the manpage) rpm -Fv [old but working xmms package] [--force | --allfiles ] ciao! To upgrade XMMS 1.2.5 to 1.2.6 you need all this files: [carlos@localhost XMMS 1.2.6]$ su Password: [root@localhost XMMS 1.2.6]# ls libxmms1-1.2.6-1mdk.i686.rpm* libxmms1-devel-1.2.6-1mdk.i686.rpm* xmms-1.2.6-1mdk.i686.rpm* xmms-diskwriter-1.2.6-1mdk.i686.rpm* xmms-esd-1.2.6-1mdk.i686.rpm* xmms-gnome-1.2.6-1mdk.i686.rpm* xmms-mesa-1.2.6-1mdk.i686.rpm* xmms-mikmod-1.2.6-1mdk.i686.rpm* [root@localhost XMMS 1.2.6]# rpm -Uvh --test *.rpm Preparing... ### [100%] [root@localhost XMMS 1.2.6]# If everything works fine, like above, then just type: rpm -Uvh *.rpm Carlos Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Thanks for all the help with this, i hope it of use for others too. Charles wrote, If you have All the xmms rpms move them all to 1 dir, call it xmms if you like, cd to that directory and rpm -Uvh *rpm I like that! However there were still dependencies - but less. Until i found one of the files needed and did it again and suddenly I needed new everything. OK one cant upgrade just one program if it uses new libraries - it will need an upgrade to the whole new mandrake. OK - I wont do that till it is out as the next version. Anyway, xmms works after i reinstalled it from the disk thus: [derek@Derek derek]$ cd /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS [derek@Derek RPMS]$ su Password: [root@Derek RPMS]# rpm -Uvh --oldpackage xmms* Thanks for that Derek. ~~~ Now I'd like to upgrade xfree86 4.1.0 to 4.2.0 I have tried, but the dependencies are horrendous... where to from here? Walter Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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So true Walter! ;) I know this well... sigh It is true, I am used to ( on the dark side) hitting setup.exe or whatever and it all happening in seconds. (After that things go wrong :) As an aside, I've been laughing my ass off at some of you guys' signature lines ;) This one from Aneurin really made me smile thx Programming, an artform that fights back. Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
