Re: [newbie] Kde2 and Koffice on Linux Mandrake 7.1????
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have installed mandrake 7.1 on my laptop > toshibasatellite pro 780.. Now i`d like to install > koffice..this > requires kde2..and so I should install it...I downloaded > kdebase, kdelibs > > and kdesupport but if I try to install then using the > kpackager it gives me > an error (conflict something).Is there anyone who has any > idea on how I > > could solve this problemthanks a lot > Bye > Maurizio Mauriziothere are many more packages needed besides those three. And if you're installing a set of binary rpms then they need to have been explicitly created for 7.1. I'm not sure where you might find such an item. Then, besides that there have traditionally been lots of dependency problems when upgrading KDE binaries (some legitimate, some not). If you're up to installing SRPMs then there's still the special tweaks that MandrakeSoft puts into KDE to get it to use the MandrakeLinux menu system that would be missing. Probably the easiest way to get what you want is to install MandrakeLinux 8.0 on you computer. :) -- Alan
Re: [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM
Your the second person that reported this. Can you please open a bug about it at: http://bugs.kde.org ? I suspect a coding issue. I will update RPM's again on Tuesday most likely. Thanks, Chris On Saturday 20 January 2001 18:54, David Boles wrote: > On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:05:31 -0500, Christopher Molnar said: > > Hi Chris, > > I D/Led and installed the 2001.01.19 kdebase stuff as you said to do and > things have improved but it looks like something else is really, really > broken. Maybe not your stuff?? > > Not being a programmer type I would think it must be something like the > keybindings. > > Example: Kview. I was working on a simple "slideshow" of the pictures > that I took of my father and where he lives, were I used to live, for my > lady friends mother. The Ctrl-Alt-F key combo is supposed to give > fullscreen. Nothing. The S key is supposed to start/stop the slideshow. > Nothing. > > I used to be able to "highlight and copy" a line of text or a url from a > GUI, like Netscape, and with 'Shift-Insert' paste it into a Xterm window. > Now I get a ~5 and a warning beep. > > Any ideas?
Re: [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:05:31 -0500, Christopher Molnar said: Hi Chris, I D/Led and installed the 2001.01.19 kdebase stuff as you said to do and things have improved but it looks like something else is really, really broken. Maybe not your stuff?? Not being a programmer type I would think it must be something like the keybindings. Example: Kview. I was working on a simple "slideshow" of the pictures that I took of my father and where he lives, were I used to live, for my lady friends mother. The Ctrl-Alt-F key combo is supposed to give fullscreen. Nothing. The S key is supposed to start/stop the slideshow. Nothing. I used to be able to "highlight and copy" a line of text or a url from a GUI, like Netscape, and with 'Shift-Insert' paste it into a Xterm window. Now I get a ~5 and a warning beep. Any ideas? -- David Boles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM
On Saturday 20 January 2001 10:05 pm, you wrote: > On Saturday 20 January 2001 17:07, George Czerw wrote: > > After I updated 7.2 with the 0118 KDE 2.1 updates, and subsequently > > rebooted, I have the following problems: > > > > 1. At the KDE login screen a root login is forbidden. > > I put a new kdebase package onto the mirrors you do not need to update all > packages, just base and this is fixed. > > > 2. Once logged in as user, I have 4 desktop applinks that no longer > > work, regardless of whether I delete and rebuild the applinks! > > However if I open up a terminal window and enter the same > > command-lines, the apps function properly. > > Please let me know which 4 this helps me come up with ideas? What is the > command line you enter? > > > Any ideas on solving either problem? > > update kdebase for the #1 and more info for #2. > > -Chris I have the same problem, ever window manager shows on the drop down list but only KDE and GNOME work.. I thought they were all there and functioning until I logged off and tried a different one. -- Dennis M. Registered Linux user #180842
Re: [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM
On Saturday 20 January 2001 17:07, George Czerw wrote: > After I updated 7.2 with the 0118 KDE 2.1 updates, and subsequently > rebooted, I have the following problems: > > 1. At the KDE login screen a root login is forbidden. I put a new kdebase package onto the mirrors you do not need to update all packages, just base and this is fixed. > > 2. Once logged in as user, I have 4 desktop applinks that no longer > work, regardless of whether I delete and rebuild the applinks! > However if I open up a terminal window and enter the same > command-lines, the apps function properly. Please let me know which 4 this helps me come up with ideas? What is the command line you enter? > > Any ideas on solving either problem? > update kdebase for the #1 and more info for #2. -Chris
Re: [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM
Tina is related to the Oracle database server on your system. Dan On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, you wrote: > I checked and all of my window managers are still there, so my mileage > did vary. Still no explanation for the > extra user Tina who seems to be associated with the time management or > something like that. > > Dennis Myers wrote: > > I've not noticed that I lost all the other window managers, I'll have to > > check that, but I do have a user > > named Tina on the login gui. So does anyone know what that is all > > about, and is it safe to delete Tina as a > > user? Probably need to report to Mandrake and kde.org, it is a bug > > accountable to one or the other. Could > > look on the KDE web site to see if the things already been reported. It > > still shows up in the KDE2.1beta as welll > > as the so called stabel KDE2.0. > > > > -michael- wrote: > >> On Thursday 18 January 2001 07:02, regarding [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM, > >> > >> you said: > >>> Hello,installed the KDE2 rpms and all went well.I did a "rpm -Uvf > >>> *.rpm --test" and it came back with no failed dependencies.I then > >>> installed from > >>> text console outside of x.I then did a "rpm --rebuilddb" followed by > >>> "update-menus -v" Once I went to log in I found a whole bunch of system > >>> users,no biggie,but I now only have KDE, default, and failsafe, all > >>> other > >>> window managers are gone. I have seen that this seems to be common, > >>> anyone > >>> have a fix for the bug? Should I report it and to who? Thanks for your > >>> time. > >> > >> > >> Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" > >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >> Content-Description: > >> Dale: > >> I have the same problem; all my users except me, root and user2 are > >> penguins with program names...when I boot to KDE I get icewm, when I > >> do default it is enlightenment and I assume that failsafe is a command > >> line. I can only get this when i type init 5 instead of startx(which > >> produces enlightenment). > >> I miss my old KDE!
Re: [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM
Christopher Molnar wrote: > I just got back from a Sun Developers conference in Boston :-) (have to spy > on the other people every once in a while). > > I am about to kick off my build scripts so let's see what happens when I put > out some 20010119 RPM's in about 8 hours. I suspect this problem may be > fixed. (no money-back gaurantee though.). > > -Chris Any more souped up Java support for Konq' in the Sun sessions? And we appreciate whatever you do for us... -michael-
Re: [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM
I've not noticed that I lost all the other window managers, I'll have to check that, but I do have a user named Tina on the login gui. So does anyone know what that is all about, and is it safe to delete Tina as a user? Probably need to report to Mandrake and kde.org, it is a bug accountable to one or the other. Could look on the KDE web site to see if the things already been reported. It still shows up in the KDE2.1beta as welll as the so called stabel KDE2.0. -michael- wrote: > On Thursday 18 January 2001 07:02, regarding [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM, you said: > >> Hello,installed the KDE2 rpms and all went well.I did a "rpm -Uvf *.rpm >> --test" and it came back with no failed dependencies.I then installed from >> text console outside of x.I then did a "rpm --rebuilddb" followed by >> "update-menus -v" Once I went to log in I found a whole bunch of system >> users,no biggie,but I now only have KDE, default, and failsafe, all other >> window managers are gone. I have seen that this seems to be common, anyone >> have a fix for the bug? Should I report it and to who? Thanks for your >> time. > > > > Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Description: > > Dale: > I have the same problem; all my users except me, root and user2 are penguins > with program names...when I boot to KDE I get icewm, when I do default it is > enlightenment and I assume that failsafe is a command line. I can only get > this when i type init 5 instead of startx(which produces enlightenment). > I miss my old KDE! -- Dennis Myers Registered Linux user #180843
Re: [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM
I just got back from a Sun Developers conference in Boston :-) (have to spy on the other people every once in a while). I am about to kick off my build scripts so let's see what happens when I put out some 20010119 RPM's in about 8 hours. I suspect this problem may be fixed. (no money-back gaurantee though.). -Chris On Thursday 18 January 2001 11:02, Dale Kosan wrote: > Hello,installed the KDE2 rpms and all went well.I did a "rpm -Uvf *.rpm > --test" and it came back with no failed dependencies.I then installed from > text console outside of x.I then did a "rpm --rebuilddb" followed by > "update-menus -v" Once I went to log in I found a whole bunch of system > users,no biggie,but I now only have KDE, default, and failsafe, all other > window managers are gone. I have seen that this seems to be common, anyone > have a fix for the bug? Should I report it and to who? Thanks for your > time. Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description:
Re: [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM
On Thursday 18 January 2001 07:02, regarding [newbie] KDE2 PROBLEM, you said: > Hello,installed the KDE2 rpms and all went well.I did a "rpm -Uvf *.rpm > --test" and it came back with no failed dependencies.I then installed from > text console outside of x.I then did a "rpm --rebuilddb" followed by > "update-menus -v" Once I went to log in I found a whole bunch of system > users,no biggie,but I now only have KDE, default, and failsafe, all other > window managers are gone. I have seen that this seems to be common, anyone > have a fix for the bug? Should I report it and to who? Thanks for your > time. Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: Dale: I have the same problem; all my users except me, root and user2 are penguins with program names...when I boot to KDE I get icewm, when I do default it is enlightenment and I assume that failsafe is a command line. I can only get this when i type init 5 instead of startx(which produces enlightenment). I miss my old KDE! -- ~enjoy!~ -michael-
Re: [newbie] KDE2 for Mandrake 7.1
If your a new linux user. Don't! Upgrade to 7.2. The dependencies require a bunch of additional packages and stuff. Also, 2.1 should be out in a month so this gives you plenty of time to upgrade :-) On Wednesday 17 January 2001 06:18, Cristiano de Lima Logrado wrote: > Hi, > > I'm a new user ... and i'd like to know where can I get the KDE2 for > Mandrake 7.1 ? > > Thanks, > > C.Logrado Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description:
Re: [newbie] KDE2 for Mandrake 7.1
On Wednesday 17 January 2001 05:18 am, Cristiano de Lima Logrado wrote: > I'm a new user ... and i'd like to know where can I get the KDE2 > for Mandrake 7.1 ? Please opost with plain text. There's a list of cooker mirrors here: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 Don't use the cooker rpms. The 7.x compatible KDE 2.1 beta2 rpms are in the /unsupported/i586/kde2.1/ directory. You'll need all the rpms in this dir (56mb). D/L them them into a dir by themselves and install all at once using 'rpm -Uvh *'. The author of these rpms, Chris Molnar, advocates using 'urpmi *.rpm' Depending on your Mandrake version/install, you may get some failed dependencies. You'll then need to d/l those to the dir you create above, and try the 'rpm -Uvh *' (or urmpi) again till the upgrade is successful. Then immediately run 'rpm --rebuilddb' followed with 'update-menus -v' Logout and back into your desktop. Done. YMMV ;) -- Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download
Lucky you. -- Original Message -- >What a load of BS. > >i downloaded the two iso cds from the mandrake site and instlaled them on >my >system and it works fine. no hiccups and no problems. everything i wanted >installed and it runs better faster, and picks up more of my hardware then >7.1 ever did. > > >- Original Message - >From: "ron peake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 6:33 PM >Subject: RE: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download > > >Hi >I have attempted to install the 7.2 download 2 CD version last weekend and >had similar problems. Additional comments: >(1) Ditch the Drake partitioner and use the non-free Partition Magic 5.X >program instead. The Drake partitioner will not work properly with Quantum >Fireball drives containing a FAT16/FAT32 partitions and obviously from the >number of complaints on Mandrake lists, there are many other types of drives >it will not work on as well. >(2) KDE 2.0 is prone to crashes and too resource intensive. (Yes, I >installed >the final version.) >(3) No matter what type of install is attempted, 7.2 will install non-system >packages which were de-selected and not install other packages which were >selected. >(4) KDE2/this-kernel-version causes constant disk activity. (64MB RAM, swap >128MB). CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE is totally ineffective to shut down a process >gracefully! >(5) USERDRAKE is clearly broken as are many others. >(6) Many configuration scripts are broken. >(7) The installation process needs very much work. > >There are a number of interesting ideas in 7.2 but they are just that: ideas >which have been incompletely implemented. As an avid Mandrake 7.1 user >I find this to be sad. >Mandrake seems to have lost it's way: The Mandrake-Macmillan monopoly deal, >Macmillan's non-support, Macmillan's different releases of 7.2 (Wallmart >and so on). It is clear that the present Mandrake Management aim Mandrake >at every type of user, anyone who can read their adverts and prod a >keyboard, >but who is the Mandrake distribution really suitable for? Mandrake Technical >side clearly have their ideas which seem to conflict with the Mandrake >Moneymen >ideas. > >In short: In my opinion, 7.2 is not ready for novice users/Windows users >and possibly too much trouble for even an expert to bother with. >You can do a lot better Mandrake, but do you really want to? > > >-- Original Message -- > >>Hi all, I am still unable to find the desktop that shows up on the >>linux-Mandrake tutorial for KDE. I have only a tool bar at the bottom of >>the page and no icons at all. The K button is a penguin with Linux >>written in. Is all this normal with the downloaded 7.2 version? I realy >>like the look of the desk top in the tutorial. >> Not sure if I have a complete download or if my CDrom is giving up, >>cause I had several packages (16 in an attempt at expert/workstation >>install) that failed to install. Can't tell if that is the CD or the >>CDrom. Any suggestions are welcome. TIA Dennis M. >> >> > > > > > > > >
Re: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download
What a load of BS. i downloaded the two iso cds from the mandrake site and instlaled them on my system and it works fine. no hiccups and no problems. everything i wanted installed and it runs better faster, and picks up more of my hardware then 7.1 ever did. - Original Message - From: "ron peake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 6:33 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download Hi I have attempted to install the 7.2 download 2 CD version last weekend and had similar problems. Additional comments: (1) Ditch the Drake partitioner and use the non-free Partition Magic 5.X program instead. The Drake partitioner will not work properly with Quantum Fireball drives containing a FAT16/FAT32 partitions and obviously from the number of complaints on Mandrake lists, there are many other types of drives it will not work on as well. (2) KDE 2.0 is prone to crashes and too resource intensive. (Yes, I installed the final version.) (3) No matter what type of install is attempted, 7.2 will install non-system packages which were de-selected and not install other packages which were selected. (4) KDE2/this-kernel-version causes constant disk activity. (64MB RAM, swap 128MB). CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE is totally ineffective to shut down a process gracefully! (5) USERDRAKE is clearly broken as are many others. (6) Many configuration scripts are broken. (7) The installation process needs very much work. There are a number of interesting ideas in 7.2 but they are just that: ideas which have been incompletely implemented. As an avid Mandrake 7.1 user I find this to be sad. Mandrake seems to have lost it's way: The Mandrake-Macmillan monopoly deal, Macmillan's non-support, Macmillan's different releases of 7.2 (Wallmart and so on). It is clear that the present Mandrake Management aim Mandrake at every type of user, anyone who can read their adverts and prod a keyboard, but who is the Mandrake distribution really suitable for? Mandrake Technical side clearly have their ideas which seem to conflict with the Mandrake Moneymen ideas. In short: In my opinion, 7.2 is not ready for novice users/Windows users and possibly too much trouble for even an expert to bother with. You can do a lot better Mandrake, but do you really want to? -- Original Message -- >Hi all, I am still unable to find the desktop that shows up on the >linux-Mandrake tutorial for KDE. I have only a tool bar at the bottom of >the page and no icons at all. The K button is a penguin with Linux >written in. Is all this normal with the downloaded 7.2 version? I realy >like the look of the desk top in the tutorial. > Not sure if I have a complete download or if my CDrom is giving up, >cause I had several packages (16 in an attempt at expert/workstation >install) that failed to install. Can't tell if that is the CD or the >CDrom. Any suggestions are welcome. TIA Dennis M. > >
Re: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download
Hello, I just downloaded the more recent update of KDE2 at www.kde.org/download for Mandrake7.2. Some of the features has been upgrade such as when you point over an icon on the task bar. the icon enlarged. It's new to me.. but I like it. Also Kdevelop has been added which was not on before. Rob - Original Message - From: "ron peake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 12:33 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download Hi I have attempted to install the 7.2 download 2 CD version last weekend and had similar problems. Additional comments: (1) Ditch the Drake partitioner and use the non-free Partition Magic 5.X program instead. The Drake partitioner will not work properly with Quantum Fireball drives containing a FAT16/FAT32 partitions and obviously from the number of complaints on Mandrake lists, there are many other types of drives it will not work on as well. (2) KDE 2.0 is prone to crashes and too resource intensive. (Yes, I installed the final version.) (3) No matter what type of install is attempted, 7.2 will install non-system packages which were de-selected and not install other packages which were selected. (4) KDE2/this-kernel-version causes constant disk activity. (64MB RAM, swap 128MB). CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE is totally ineffective to shut down a process gracefully! (5) USERDRAKE is clearly broken as are many others. (6) Many configuration scripts are broken. (7) The installation process needs very much work. There are a number of interesting ideas in 7.2 but they are just that: ideas which have been incompletely implemented. As an avid Mandrake 7.1 user I find this to be sad. Mandrake seems to have lost it's way: The Mandrake-Macmillan monopoly deal, Macmillan's non-support, Macmillan's different releases of 7.2 (Wallmart and so on). It is clear that the present Mandrake Management aim Mandrake at every type of user, anyone who can read their adverts and prod a keyboard, but who is the Mandrake distribution really suitable for? Mandrake Technical side clearly have their ideas which seem to conflict with the Mandrake Moneymen ideas. In short: In my opinion, 7.2 is not ready for novice users/Windows users and possibly too much trouble for even an expert to bother with. You can do a lot better Mandrake, but do you really want to? -- Original Message -- >Hi all, I am still unable to find the desktop that shows up on the >linux-Mandrake tutorial for KDE. I have only a tool bar at the bottom of >the page and no icons at all. The K button is a penguin with Linux >written in. Is all this normal with the downloaded 7.2 version? I realy >like the look of the desk top in the tutorial. > Not sure if I have a complete download or if my CDrom is giving up, >cause I had several packages (16 in an attempt at expert/workstation >install) that failed to install. Can't tell if that is the CD or the >CDrom. Any suggestions are welcome. TIA Dennis M. > >
RE: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download
Hi I have attempted to install the 7.2 download 2 CD version last weekend and had similar problems. Additional comments: (1) Ditch the Drake partitioner and use the non-free Partition Magic 5.X program instead. The Drake partitioner will not work properly with Quantum Fireball drives containing a FAT16/FAT32 partitions and obviously from the number of complaints on Mandrake lists, there are many other types of drives it will not work on as well. (2) KDE 2.0 is prone to crashes and too resource intensive. (Yes, I installed the final version.) (3) No matter what type of install is attempted, 7.2 will install non-system packages which were de-selected and not install other packages which were selected. (4) KDE2/this-kernel-version causes constant disk activity. (64MB RAM, swap 128MB). CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE is totally ineffective to shut down a process gracefully! (5) USERDRAKE is clearly broken as are many others. (6) Many configuration scripts are broken. (7) The installation process needs very much work. There are a number of interesting ideas in 7.2 but they are just that: ideas which have been incompletely implemented. As an avid Mandrake 7.1 user I find this to be sad. Mandrake seems to have lost it's way: The Mandrake-Macmillan monopoly deal, Macmillan's non-support, Macmillan's different releases of 7.2 (Wallmart and so on). It is clear that the present Mandrake Management aim Mandrake at every type of user, anyone who can read their adverts and prod a keyboard, but who is the Mandrake distribution really suitable for? Mandrake Technical side clearly have their ideas which seem to conflict with the Mandrake Moneymen ideas. In short: In my opinion, 7.2 is not ready for novice users/Windows users and possibly too much trouble for even an expert to bother with. You can do a lot better Mandrake, but do you really want to? -- Original Message -- >Hi all, I am still unable to find the desktop that shows up on the >linux-Mandrake tutorial for KDE. I have only a tool bar at the bottom of >the page and no icons at all. The K button is a penguin with Linux >written in. Is all this normal with the downloaded 7.2 version? I realy >like the look of the desk top in the tutorial. > Not sure if I have a complete download or if my CDrom is giving up, >cause I had several packages (16 in an attempt at expert/workstation >install) that failed to install. Can't tell if that is the CD or the >CDrom. Any suggestions are welcome. TIA Dennis M. > >
Re: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download
- Original Message - From: "Dennis Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 9:24 PM Subject: [newbie] KDE2 in 7.2 download > Hi all, I am still unable to find the desktop that shows up on the > linux-Mandrake tutorial for KDE. I have only a tool bar at the bottom of > the page and no icons at all. The K button is a penguin with Linux > written in. Is all this normal with the downloaded 7.2 version? I realy > like the look of the desk top in the tutorial. > Not sure if I have a complete download or if my CDrom is giving up, > cause I had several packages (16 in an attempt at expert/workstation > install) that failed to install. Can't tell if that is the CD or the > CDrom. Any suggestions are welcome. TIA Dennis M. > > Dennis If you know what the 16 programs are you can use RPMDrake to manually install them. This may "fix" your desktop. Charles
Re: [newbie] KDE2 solution
Dear All, It did not even occur to me to switch to Enlightenment or Icewm and maybe that will solve these napster -mp3 problems and possibly I could get the Linux Hearts game working in there? Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions about this? Also, I plan to install the new Suse7 that I just got yesterday. I have the linux M 7.2 installed on this machine however I would like to possibly do a dual boot system with the Suse 7. What is the best way to do this without causing problems with my 7.2? Someone asked me if Suse has the complete Xserver. That I do not know yet and I will let you know as soon as I find out.:) Thanks for your help. Marcia
Re: [newbie] KDE2's stability
On Friday 03 November 2000 09:43 pm, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: KDE2 is the only > group of programmes I have problems with. GNOME works fine, as did > KDE1.x. Are there any suggestions on what I can do to improve > KDE2's stability? Perhaps I can change some config settings, > either in KDE, X, or Linux in general. Not other than as I said, update XF-4 and KDE2 to Mandrakes latest rpm's. This will also involve updating many other system packages. Use 7.2 final rpms, don't use cooker rpms. As to hardware, add ram and make sure you've got your HDD(s) optimized with 'hdparm'. If you still find KDE2 'unstable', you might try downgrading to XF-3.3.6. If you're still not satisfied, downgrade to KDE1. You might subscribe to the KDE mailing list(s). You'll find most all of the people havin problems with KDE2 _aren't_ runnin Mandrake. I believe you'll also find most understand that KDE2 (like Gnome) is a work in progress, and there's still manys bugs and user issues to work out. They've already been working on the next release since before KDE2.0 -- Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [newbie] KDE2's stability
Looks like you're just unlucky! 8-) On my machine, konqueror and kmail are v. stable (although, as I said, KDE itself seems pretty flaky). No doubt there'll be lots of patches in the coming weeks... > I initially upgraded Mandrake 7.0 to 7.2. KDE2 was alright (I think -- I > didn't use it much), but Konqueror (and to a lesser extent, Kcontrol) was > unstable in both KDE2 and GNOME. Thinking this was some kind of hangover > from using KDE2 betas and the release candidate, I wiped my Linux partition > save /home, but I deleted the .kde directory in each of my home > directories, and installed 7.2 freshly. As far as I can see, this didn't > make any difference. As I said before, everything else is quite stable. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] "They said I was mad; and I said they were mad; damn them, they outvoted me" - Nathaniel Lee
Re: [newbie] KDE2's stability
hmmm Well, all I can say is that, for me, running KDE is a problem (lots of crashes), but no problem running any of the apps (including konqueror), outside of it. Did you do an upgrade or a fresh install? I had a lot of problems when I did an upgrade, fixed by doing a completely clean install. Ian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] "They said I was mad; and I said they were mad; damn them, they outvoted me" - Nathaniel Lee > I have tried running Konqueror in both KDE2 and in Gnome. Either way, it is > too unstable to use on a regular basis. I do not have any problems with the > rest of KDE2, only Konqueror (the main reason for me getting Mandrake 7.2 > in the first place). In fact I am writing this e-mail in KMail, which I > find to be very stable. >
Re: [newbie] KDE2's stability
Yes, run the KDE apps under gnome instead (or gnome running your favourite window manager). Seems to work fine that way! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] "They said I was mad; and I said they were mad; damn them, they outvoted me" - Nathaniel Lee > Are there any > suggestions on what I can do to improve KDE2's stability? Perhaps I can > change some config settings, either in KDE, X, or Linux in general.
Re: [newbie] KDE2's stability
I agree with you entirely. I *was* under the impression, however, that I was maintaining my system rather well, and that my hardware is of good quality (I made sure to choose each and every component of my computer myself, after careful research). KDE2 is the only group of programmes I have problems with. GNOME works fine, as did KDE1.x. Are there any suggestions on what I can do to improve KDE2's stability? Perhaps I can change some config settings, either in KDE, X, or Linux in general. On Fri, 3 Nov 2000 09:23, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Thursday 02 November 2000 06:21 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > > Is it just me or is KDE2 annoyingly unstable? I have been using > > KDE2 since beta 4 and when Mandrake 7.2 was released I downloaded > > and installed it over my Mandrake 7.0 system. KDE2 was too > > unstable to use as a main desktop, > >I'll go to my "we're all snowflakes" argument. _On your > hardware_, as _it's configured_,and _it's quality_, and varied _by > your install options_, plus other enumerable variances, including > 'user' ones, ... you're havin' some problems. Welcome to Linux at > it's cuttin edge. If you think you have problems, get on the NG's > and websites and listen to all the people with other distros that > can't even get KDE2 and/or XF-4 installed, much less usable and with > no help from the distro/developers. Mandrake developers have been > makin' all this stuff available overnite, with custom rpm's !! I > sometimes wonder if they ever sleep. Surely they have no sex life ;) > > To try to 'an be helpful, altho my harware is solid, quality, > standard stuff, it's overclocked to the Nth degree. My experience > with 7.2 and KDE2 so far, even tho I started with an early 7.2beta3 > and KDE 1.94, has been as I upgrade the install with 7.2 final and > 7.2beta/rc rpm's, it's become the most stable and resilient release > I've ever had. > > Unfortunately (or the reverse :), it's to!! damn popular. All > the 'update and 7.2 d/l site's are overloaded. Mandrake_Update is > futile, most all ftp's are empty or closed due to user quotas. So > I've been doin' FTP searches for main things like XFree86, KDE2, > LinuxConf, Menu, pam, etc., findin sites I can get into, and with a > lot of caution about meeting dependancies without reckless 'lib' > changes, while reckoning sometimes a '--force' or '--nodeps is > needed, ... slowly and deliberately I've got it rock solid ... over > a 28,8 connection. > >If this approach doesn't sit well with some, then I can only > figure y'all might wanna go back to XF-3.3.x and KDE 1.1x > > Sorry for the rant, it's not personal, I'm jus' gettin' real > annoyed with all the 7.2/KDE2/XF-4 complaints as of late. Using > Linux involves a lot of personal responsibiltiy for maintaining the > system (and hardware)... an idea I fear is being lost. One thing > I'm sure of is that the staff at Mandrake is workin' their tail off > and that 99% of Mandrake users will be pleasantly surprised by going > up to 7.2 Even the Wal*Mart ones ;) -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "One World, One Web, One Programme." - Microsoft Promotional Ad. "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer." - Adolf Hitler
Re: [newbie] KDE2
Is it my imgaination or is your date off? Did you really send this on the 21st of April? --- alberto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christopher Molnar wrote: > > > > Please wait a day and I will post it in here The version currently > > available is pretty buggy. > > > > -Chris > > > > > Thanks Chris... please let us know when youre finished. > = __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] KDE2
Christopher Molnar wrote: > > Please wait a day and I will post it in here The version currently > available is pretty buggy. > > -Chris > Thanks Chris... please let us know when youre finished.
Re: [newbie] KDE2
Thanks Chris. Will wait for your posting. Harry Christopher Molnar wrote: > > Please wait a day and I will post it in here The version currently > available is pretty buggy. > > -Chris > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, Harry Flaxman wrote: > > > Can someone give me an up to date URL for downloading KDE2? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Harry > > > > > > -- > > --Chris -- ___ Harry Flaxman | Reg Linux User 182484 http://web.meganet.net/hflaxman ICQ # 22086907 | Reg Linux System 80769
Re: [newbie] KDE2
Please wait a day and I will post it in here The version currently available is pretty buggy. -Chris On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, Harry Flaxman wrote: > Can someone give me an up to date URL for downloading KDE2? > > Thanks. > > Harry > > -- --Chris
Re: [newbie] KDE2
On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, Harry Flaxman wrote: > Can someone give me an up to date URL for downloading KDE2? ask for one, i'll give ya two...the last version designed to co-exist with kde1 is available here: http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~molnarc/index.html read the README and copy the scripts for running it with kde1 --- for the newer version (by ten days) which is designed to replace kde1 in mandrake try here: ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/ you'll find the kde2 rpms listed as kde1.91...you ought know what you are doing to download these, as they are from cooker and may require other libs to meet dependencies... the former is likely to disappear shortly, and be replaced with the newer version which won't co-exist with kde1 hope this helps, frank
Re: [newbie] KDE2 problems
Install kde2and1stripts.i586.rpm and reboot. the problems should go away. and you should have your menu options for kde2. Make sure that the package does over-write the /etc/X11/window-managers file. -Chris In Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Gentile, Sam wrote: > I finally got KDE2 installed on Mandrake 7.0 using > http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~molnarc/index.html. I followed the instructions > and used the mandrake script but the only way I can get KDE2 running is > >WINDOWMANAGER=kde2 startx. Is this correct? How do I get a menu choice? > Also, all my menus are screwed up. All the menus contain GNOME things and > multiple times. How do I correct this or reset the menus? > > Sam Gentile > Principal Software Engineer > Compuware NuMega > Performance & Coverage Group > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.numega.com > http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?SamGentile > "Love Yourself. Love Your Neighbor. Love Your COM" > > >
