Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!!
- Original Message - From: John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 5:29 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!! Marc Resnick wrote: Hardware messed up...you don't mean like...physical damage, do you? Becausethat's happened before. A week after I got this box the hard drive brokedown. On tech support for two hours until they could be convinced that formatting with the restore discs isn't gonna help, and that there was nothing you could do... Shame they didn't let me keep the old hard drive...I've always wanted to disect one of those... --Marc And talking of knackers yard, I've got a broken down hard drive awaiting replacement, I think I will cut it open and take a peak inside myself. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't forget to take us some pictures. Everyone likes to see the insides of hardware! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!!
- Original Message - From: Terence Golightly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!! Marc, I have been following your thread, I'm no help with kernel compiling but with locking up pc yes I've dealt with that! (check below) On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 21:40, Marc Resnick wrote: - Original Message - From: Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!! giant snip Okay I entered rescue mode successfully. Uh...couldn't do anything. Pretty much froze up, couldn't use the arrow keys...or any keys..to do anything. SysRq magic * ALT SysRq r - raw mode * ALT SysRq s - sync * ALT SysRq e - send terminating signal * ALT SysRq i - send kill signal * ALT SysRq u - remount all read only * ALT SysRq b/o - reboot/turn off * Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring If this works it'll restart/shutoff system. If not recycle power. I know this doesn't answer your question, but this helped with an orderly restart w/o fragging up my filesystems. Terry Golightly __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- I used to have a signature, but I lost it. My new one is: IIRC CRS None of this worked =(. Everything was still frozen. Anyone? Please? Can't last this long on Windows! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!!
On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 19:09, Marc Resnick wrote: - Original Message - From: Terence Golightly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!! Marc, I have been following your thread, I'm no help with kernel compiling but with locking up pc yes I've dealt with that! (check below) On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 21:40, Marc Resnick wrote: - Original Message - From: Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!! giant snip Okay I entered rescue mode successfully. Uh...couldn't do anything. Pretty much froze up, couldn't use the arrow keys...or any keys..to do anything. SysRq magic * ALT SysRq r - raw mode * ALT SysRq s - sync * ALT SysRq e - send terminating signal * ALT SysRq i - send kill signal * ALT SysRq u - remount all read only * ALT SysRq b/o - reboot/turn off * Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring If this works it'll restart/shutoff system. If not recycle power. I know this doesn't answer your question, but this helped with an orderly restart w/o fragging up my filesystems. I neglected to mention to hold down both ALTSysRq and then press each key. The left ALT worked on mine not the right. If this fails then your system is AFAIK locked solid and a hard reset/pwr recycle is all you can do to restart. Sorry I can't be of more help. None of this worked =(. Everything was still frozen. Anyone? Please? Can't last this long on Windows! Terry __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- I used to have a signature, but I lost it. My new one is: IIRC CRS Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!!
- Original Message - From: Terence Golightly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!! On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 19:09, Marc Resnick wrote: - Original Message - From: Terence Golightly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!! Marc, I have been following your thread, I'm no help with kernel compiling but with locking up pc yes I've dealt with that! (check below) On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 21:40, Marc Resnick wrote: - Original Message - From: Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!! giant snip Okay I entered rescue mode successfully. Uh...couldn't do anything. Pretty much froze up, couldn't use the arrow keys...or any keys..to do anything. SysRq magic * ALT SysRq r - raw mode * ALT SysRq s - sync * ALT SysRq e - send terminating signal * ALT SysRq i - send kill signal * ALT SysRq u - remount all read only * ALT SysRq b/o - reboot/turn off * Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring If this works it'll restart/shutoff system. If not recycle power. I know this doesn't answer your question, but this helped with an orderly restart w/o fragging up my filesystems. I neglected to mention to hold down both ALTSysRq and then press each key. The left ALT worked on mine not the right. If this fails then your system is AFAIK locked solid and a hard reset/pwr recycle is all you can do to restart. Sorry I can't be of more help. None of this worked =(. Everything was still frozen. Anyone? Please? Can't last this long on Windows! Terry __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- I used to have a signature, but I lost it. My new one is: IIRC CRS Yes, I held both down, and used the left ALT. I really don't need a way to shut down. I need a way to make my keyboard work. I tried error checking in Partition Magic. I get some sort of problem, but PM doesn't fix it... I'll google on locking up during rescue mode. Kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it? Heh heh. --Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!!
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 20:42:12 -0500 Marc Resnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Terence Golightly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!! Yes, I held both down, and used the left ALT. I really don't need a way to shut down. I need a way to make my keyboard work. I tried error checking in Partition Magic. I get some sort of problem, but PM doesn't fix it... I'll google on locking up during rescue mode. Kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it? Heh heh. --Marc If it locks up in rescue mode off of the cd's, that means that 2.6 kernel we've been trying to get to work so hard probably works fine. I think the problem now lies in what laptop you are using. I would instead search google for the specific model laptop you have and what other users' thoughts and experiences are with linux for it. That might yield more answers than just generally searching for lockups during a rescue mode. I have a feeling your hardware got messed up somewhere. John -- Tue Feb 24 20:09:48 CST 2004 -- Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 If a fool persists in his folly he shall become wise. -- William Blake Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!!
- Original Message - From: John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!! On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 20:42:12 -0500 Marc Resnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Terence Golightly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!! Yes, I held both down, and used the left ALT. I really don't need a way to shut down. I need a way to make my keyboard work. I tried error checking in Partition Magic. I get some sort of problem, but PM doesn't fix it... I'll google on locking up during rescue mode. Kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it? Heh heh. --Marc If it locks up in rescue mode off of the cd's, that means that 2.6 kernel we've been trying to get to work so hard probably works fine. I think the problem now lies in what laptop you are using. I would instead search google for the specific model laptop you have and what other users' thoughts and experiences are with linux for it. That might yield more answers than just generally searching for lockups during a rescue mode. I have a feeling your hardware got messed up somewhere. John -- Tue Feb 24 20:09:48 CST 2004 -- Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 If a fool persists in his folly he shall become wise. -- William Blake Hardware messed up...you don't mean like...physical damage, do you? Because that's happened before. A week after I got this box the hard drive broke down. On tech support for two hours until they could be convinced that formatting with the restore discs isn't gonna help, and that there was nothing you could do... Shame they didn't let me keep the old hard drive...I've always wanted to disect one of those... I have seen a few articles about linux on this model. Didn't say anything about locking up. And why would the 2.6.3 kernel affect rescue mode off the boot discs? Anyway, if it does, would that mean that rescue mode on the v10 discs might help? --Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!!
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:55:03 -0500 Marc Resnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!! Hardware messed up...you don't mean like...physical damage, do you? Because that's happened before. A week after I got this box the hard drive broke down. On tech support for two hours until they could be convinced that formatting with the restore discs isn't gonna help, and that there was nothing you could do... Shame they didn't let me keep the old hard drive...I've always wanted to disect one of those... I have seen a few articles about linux on this model. Didn't say anything about locking up. And why would the 2.6.3 kernel affect rescue mode off the boot discs? Anyway, if it does, would that mean that rescue mode on the v10 discs might help? I'm not really sure. At what point on the rescue process did it freeze? Exactly how far did you get? Were you able to get to the command line? You may have some hardware conflicts or faulty bios settings. If the rescue disks freeze your computer, then it's definitely not the kernel's problem - unless it messed with the hardware in a permanent way. (This is highly unlikely). I say try the rescue disks again, tell us how far it gets, then try resetting the bios. Then try everything once more. If that doesn't work, wait for Mandrake 10 to come out. You can choose whether you want the 2.4 or 2.6 kernel at installation time. John -- Tue Feb 24 21:01:52 CST 2004 -- Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Small is beautiful. -- Schumacher's Dictum Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!!
- Original Message - From: John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!! On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:55:03 -0500 Marc Resnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!! Hardware messed up...you don't mean like...physical damage, do you? Because that's happened before. A week after I got this box the hard drive broke down. On tech support for two hours until they could be convinced that formatting with the restore discs isn't gonna help, and that there was nothing you could do... Shame they didn't let me keep the old hard drive...I've always wanted to disect one of those... I have seen a few articles about linux on this model. Didn't say anything about locking up. And why would the 2.6.3 kernel affect rescue mode off the boot discs? Anyway, if it does, would that mean that rescue mode on the v10 discs might help? I'm not really sure. At what point on the rescue process did it freeze? Exactly how far did you get? Were you able to get to the command line? You may have some hardware conflicts or faulty bios settings. If the rescue disks freeze your computer, then it's definitely not the kernel's problem - unless it messed with the hardware in a permanent way. (This is highly unlikely). I say try the rescue disks again, tell us how far it gets, then try resetting the bios. Then try everything once more. If that doesn't work, wait for Mandrake 10 to come out. You can choose whether you want the 2.4 or 2.6 kernel at installation time. John -- Tue Feb 24 21:01:52 CST 2004 -- Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Small is beautiful. -- Schumacher's Dictum I've tried many times with Rescue mode. I get to the part where it asks to choose what to do. I'm not exactly sure if it freezes, I think it might just be that it doesn't recognize the keystrokes...or something like that. I think the hd problem occured when you told me to add that --premount parameter. It must have been forced to do something to the partition. I'm not sure if I'm making sense or if this is unintelligible mumbling, but I know that's what caused it. Odd too, everything went alright except for the fact that it couldn't find my /home directory. Probably hadn't mounted hda7. I suppose I'll wait for mdk 10, and reinstall, unless someone has any suggestions? --Marc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!!
- Original Message - From: Marc Resnick To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 4:45 PM Subject: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition! Uh oh, not again. Anyway, Linux is claiming that my root partition was unmounted improperly, even though I shut down correctly. It checks for errors, finds a bunch and corrects them, then asks if I want to correct something(can result in data loss), but It's kinda frozen, and I can't choose in option. It also says run cfsk(or something similar to that, I can't remember) manually, and says that this can also result in dataloss. Here's why I think it happened: I was told yesterday by someone on this list to add something like --preload ext3 fs when I did mkinitrd for kernel 2.6.3. I did that, and it booted, but said it couldn't write to /home. I figure that it wasn't reading the partition right. Then I shut down, and went to sleep. Today, I booted with my old kernel, and this happened. I'd really like to get Linux back online, and maybe Kernel 2.6.3 also. Help please? Thanks, Marc I just tried to boot again. It said Unexpected Inconsistency. Run fsck manually. What's fsck, should I run it, will it destroy anything, how do I run it? Ah, panicking! Help please, Marc
Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!!
On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 14:05, Marc Resnick wrote: I just tried to boot again. It said Unexpected Inconsistency. Run fsck manually. What's fsck, should I run it, will it destroy anything, how do I run it? Ah, panicking! Man, you're having a bad run! Program fsck is the file system check application. There is actually one for each type of filesystem. For example ReiserFS comes with its matching fsck application. The fsck app presumably fires off the appropriate fs-specific version. This app is expected to know about really low-level grungy filesystem details, and to scan a filesystem checking for problems and patching them if it finds them. It's actually normal for this to be run at regular intervals as a kind of preventative maintenance during the bootup phase. You should be able to boot up using your mdk install CD, then select repair or similar option and then run fsck from there. This is done so that the filesystem isn't mounted (being used) when fsck runs, because filesystem drivers really don't expect apps to be manipulating the raw filesystem layout while they are ready to serve files from that filesystem :-) Of course if the filesystem you need to check is not critical to your OS's well being (eg not / or /home etc) then you can unmount it, eg: umount /dev/hda7 fsck /dev/hda7 which gives me:fsck 1.34 (25-Jul-2003) e2fsck 1.34 (25-Jul-2003) /dev/hda7: clean, 11/799680 files, 528969/1598932 blocks I wouldn't expect fsck to screw up a working filesystem. The fs-specific versions of fsck are considered a very important part of a filesystem's development and are well-tested. This is *the* way to check/repair filesystem problems. Of course if the filesystem is already screwed up, fsck isn't guaranteed to be able to repair it... Just man fsck for more info... Regards, Simon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!!
- Original Message - From: Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!! On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 14:05, Marc Resnick wrote: I just tried to boot again. It said Unexpected Inconsistency. Run fsck manually. What's fsck, should I run it, will it destroy anything, how do I run it? Ah, panicking! Man, you're having a bad run! Program fsck is the file system check application. There is actually one for each type of filesystem. For example ReiserFS comes with its matching fsck application. The fsck app presumably fires off the appropriate fs-specific version. This app is expected to know about really low-level grungy filesystem details, and to scan a filesystem checking for problems and patching them if it finds them. It's actually normal for this to be run at regular intervals as a kind of preventative maintenance during the bootup phase. You should be able to boot up using your mdk install CD, then select repair or similar option and then run fsck from there. This is done so that the filesystem isn't mounted (being used) when fsck runs, because filesystem drivers really don't expect apps to be manipulating the raw filesystem layout while they are ready to serve files from that filesystem :-) Of course if the filesystem you need to check is not critical to your OS's well being (eg not / or /home etc) then you can unmount it, eg: umount /dev/hda7 fsck /dev/hda7 which gives me:fsck 1.34 (25-Jul-2003) e2fsck 1.34 (25-Jul-2003) /dev/hda7: clean, 11/799680 files, 528969/1598932 blocks I wouldn't expect fsck to screw up a working filesystem. The fs-specific versions of fsck are considered a very important part of a filesystem's development and are well-tested. This is *the* way to check/repair filesystem problems. Of course if the filesystem is already screwed up, fsck isn't guaranteed to be able to repair it... Just man fsck for more info... Regards, Simon Okay I entered rescue mode successfully. Uh...couldn't do anything. Pretty much froze up, couldn't use the arrow keys...or any keys..to do anything. Note that this also happens whenever I'm booting the kernel and it asks if I want to force a File System Integrity Check or if I want to do an interactive startup. No keys work...it's weird. I have a laptop...I don't know if this affects whether the keys should work or not, but I do... Anyone have any suggestions? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!!
Marc, I have been following your thread, I'm no help with kernel compiling but with locking up pc yes I've dealt with that! (check below) On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 21:40, Marc Resnick wrote: - Original Message - From: Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux Not Booting, Error in root partition!--- More Info!!! giant snip Okay I entered rescue mode successfully. Uh...couldn't do anything. Pretty much froze up, couldn't use the arrow keys...or any keys..to do anything. SysRq magic * ALT SysRq r - raw mode * ALT SysRq s - sync * ALT SysRq e - send terminating signal * ALT SysRq i - send kill signal * ALT SysRq u - remount all read only * ALT SysRq b/o - reboot/turn off * Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring If this works it'll restart/shutoff system. If not recycle power. I know this doesn't answer your question, but this helped with an orderly restart w/o fragging up my filesystems. Terry Golightly __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- I used to have a signature, but I lost it. My new one is: IIRC CRS Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
