Re: [newbie] Remote login
Maurice O'Connor wrote: I installed 10.1 on two boxes. I noticed on the login screen that there is a selection under menu for logging in remotely. I would like to use this option but no host names show in the login menu and I am not able to add any. I am able to rsh or ssh to either of my machines. Can anyone give me a clue or point me to the right place so that I can login remotely. TIA. By default, the filewall blocks remote X connections. You would have to open the firewall on both machines to let X through. As the connections are not encripted, or even compressed, anyone can monitor them. So you are sending your username and password in the clear over the network. This is not usualy a good idea. Depending on what you want to do, you may be better off running the remote program over an ssh connection, or using VNC to allow remote access. It is also possible to use Xnest to run aq remote window manager in a window on your desktop over a ssh connection... If you have a home network, and just want to play with remote X logins, try opening up port 6000 on both machines. If you are behind a hardware firewall, or not connected to the Internet, you could shut down the firewall on both machines just long enough to make the test. If you are not using a home network, or a network where you KNOW everyone on the network is trustworthy, this is a bad idea! Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Remote login
On Sun, 2004-11-07 at 11:33 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Maurice O'Connor wrote: I installed 10.1 on two boxes. I noticed on the login screen that there is a selection under menu for logging in remotely. I would like to use this option but no host names show in the login menu and I am not able to add any. I am able to rsh or ssh to either of my machines. Can anyone give me a clue or point me to the right place so that I can login remotely. TIA. By default, the filewall blocks remote X connections. You would have to open the firewall on both machines to let X through. As the connections are not encripted, or even compressed, anyone can monitor them. So you are sending your username and password in the clear over the network. This is not usualy a good idea. Depending on what you want to do, you may be better off running the remote program over an ssh connection, or using VNC to allow remote access. It is also possible to use Xnest to run aq remote window manager in a window on your desktop over a ssh connection... If you have a home network, and just want to play with remote X logins, try opening up port 6000 on both machines. If you are behind a hardware firewall, or not connected to the Internet, you could shut down the firewall on both machines just long enough to make the test. If you are not using a home network, or a network where you KNOW everyone on the network is trustworthy, this is a bad idea! Mikkel Plain text document attachment (message.footer) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Thanks Mikkel for the explanation. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Remote Login
Did you su to root before running this command? apachectl is something you need to be root to run. Thus it's been put in one of the various sbins on the machine. Unless you edit the $PATH for that user, it won't even see applications in /sbin, /usr/sbin, or /usr/local/sbin. You can't telnet into a server as root. So maybe you forgot to grant yourself root access before running this command. That's what first comes to my mind. Let us know. tdh -- T. Holmes | UNIXTECHS.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | UIN: 17021091 | | | I made a telnet connection against my LINUX System and tried to run the | command apachectl but my system can´t recognize the sentence, but when | I´m on Console works fine... | A Telnet session, have all the privileges like a console session ?? | There is another way to have a remote access to my system ? | | Regards | | Nenister | | | Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? | Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com `--- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Remote Login
A Telnet session, have all the privileges like a console session ?? There is another way to have a remote access to my system ? It should just work as a regular console. However, telnet most likely is not set up to be 'root' and apachectl is probably not in the user's PATH. 'apachectl' seems like a root-only command. You can login and then su to root, but don't ever allow yourself to telnet in as root; it's a security risk. Also, you should think about using ssh for remote sessions. Nenister Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)
Well, I got telnet working by uncommenting inet.conf and running inetd (where should that be started from if I want it to auto-start?) As a side bonus also got my Intellimouse working while surfing through howto's. I got remote X working by setting XDMCP in my X server. Now who can tell me how to get my Linux PC to stop making noises with its speaker whenever it is sending data to my X server? This is driving me crazy!! -Original Message- From: R J Booysen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 5:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X) Uncomment the telnet stuff in inet.conf. Also add the hosts you want to allow in hosts.allow - Original Message - From: "Welker Donald P NPRI" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Newbie (E-mail)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 5:47 PM Subject: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X) I would like to be able to telnet to my Linux box and/or use X from a remote system. The remote system has an X server, but how do I set up the daemons on the Linux computer? They don't currently appear to be running (since telnet attempts bounce).
Re: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)
I am further than I was: inetd was not starting. What script is inetd normally started from? I should add that this system was installed with the "secure" option, so it probably isn't doing lots of things that a default installation would do automatically. For example, I also need to get it to start lpd automatically. I have pretty good reasons for security as you can probably divine from my email address, so I don't want to just start with a default configuration. Nonetheless, I am still stuck. The computer no longer refuses all connections, but closes telnet/ftp after a few seconds without prompting for login.
Re: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Welker Donald P NPRI wrote: I would like to be able to telnet to my Linux box and/or use X from a remote system. The remote system has an X server, but how do I set up the daemons on the Linux computer? They don't currently appear to be running (since telnet attempts bounce). In /etc/inetd.conf you have to remove the # marks with the telnetd line to make the telnet daemon active. Paul -- Silence is a little bit of heaven descending to earth )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]])0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -=PINE 4.21+Linux Mandrake 7.1=-
RE: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)
ftp and telnet lines are both uncommented but connections are refused even between the Linux computer and itself (including localhost). I would like to be able to telnet to my Linux box and/or use X from a remote system. The remote system has an X server, but how do I set up the daemons on the Linux computer? They don't currently appear to be running (since telnet attempts bounce). In /etc/inetd.conf you have to remove the # marks with the telnetd line to make the telnet daemon active.
Re: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)
Are you attempting to telnet in from a machine where you are logged in using an account with the same username/password, or a different one? I had/have lots of problems with remote logins using ssh on my MDK box, and I've taken security down to "low" through that DrakConf crap which I had to find and install manually. (sorry, I just don't like it) Apparently the rule set Mandrake creates somewhere, somehow, gets VERY fussy and limits who and how they can log in. I *have* set of ftpd (wu-ftpd, and anonftp) on the mMDK box, and cannot ftp in...Out, yes, but in, still no. It's a very quirky config. If you can, try creating an account with the same name/password on the remote machine and try getting in again. --Greg ftp and telnet lines are both uncommented but connections are refused even between the Linux computer and itself (including localhost). I would like to be able to telnet to my Linux box and/or use X from a remote system. The remote system has an X server, but how do I set up the daemons on the Linux computer? They don't currently appear to be running (since telnet attempts bounce). In /etc/inetd.conf you have to remove the # marks with the telnetd line to make the telnet daemon active. __ message envoye depuis http://www.ifrance.com emails (pop)-sites persos (espace illimite)-agenda-favoris (bookmarks)-forums Ecoutez ce message par tel ! : 08 92 68 92 15 (france uniquement)
RE: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)
It's not outside my LAN, though I do look forward to using ssh for other reasons (such as access from home). I'd like to get X and telnet working before I do that, though. If this remote machine is outside your LAN, you mey wish to can telnet, and install ssh or Open SSH. These will provide the same acess and X-11 fowarding, but wih the added security of a 768 bit key.
RE: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)
Hi -- You're having the same trouble I had/have. There's a part of your inetd.conf (I think) file where it allows you to allow or deny access to various IP numbers. Take a look at these. Uncommenting the lines in inetd.conf just starts the daemons. However, you probably have the default status of denying access to all workstations. Remove this denial. This should allow FTP. At least it did for me. Alas it probably won't allow telnet (at least it didn't for me). Can anybody out there tell us BOTH how to enable telnet to work? pete On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 12:48:11 -0400, Welker Donald P NPRI wrote: ftp and telnet lines are both uncommented but connections are refused even between the Linux computer and itself (including localhost). I would like to be able to telnet to my Linux box and/or use X from a remote system. The remote system has an X server, but how do I set up the daemons on the Linux computer? They don't currently appear to be running (since telnet attempts bounce). In /etc/inetd.conf you have to remove the # marks with the telnetd line to make the telnet daemon active. Pete Clapham Department of Biological, Geological, and Environmental Sciences Cleveland State University Cleveland, Ohio, 44115 Voice: [216] 687-4820 Fax: [216] 523-7200 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)
Hi all -- I assume this is a response to Donald Welker's original and then follow-up query about FTP and Telnet. I agree with Greg that the config is quirky, but I disagree that it is a matter of login name/password on the local machine. I was actually able to fix FTP (but not Telnet) on my server by adjusting the allow/deny parts of the config. Now I can and do FTP from windows and Linux machines to the server even though one of the linux and none of the windows machines has ever heard of root or the name I usually go by when using the Linux Server. For FTP, find the allow/deny portion of the config (I think that changing this is what security actually does -- or at least one of the things it does), and allow the machines you WANT to FTP from and make sure those machines aren't denied. It should work. Now, can somebody tell me what to do to get Telnet to work? Uncommenting the daemons in inetd.conf will get telnetd turned on, so that a telnet command will connect to the server, but the server will then refuse the connection. pete On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 14:23:35 -0400, Greg Stewart wrote: Are you attempting to telnet in from a machine where you are logged in using an account with the same username/password, or a different one? I had/have lots of problems with remote logins using ssh on my MDK box, and I've taken security down to "low" through that DrakConf crap which I had to find and install manually. (sorry, I just don't like it) Apparently the rule set Mandrake creates somewhere, somehow, gets VERY fussy and limits who and how they can log in. I *have* set of ftpd (wu-ftpd, and anonftp) on the mMDK box, and cannot ftp in...Out, yes, but in, still no. It's a very quirky config. If you can, try creating an account with the same name/password on the remote machine and try getting in again. --Greg ftp and telnet lines are both uncommented but connections are refused even between the Linux computer and itself (including localhost). I would like to be able to telnet to my Linux box and/or use X from a remote system. The remote system has an X server, but how do I set up the daemons on the Linux computer? They don't currently appear to be running (since telnet attempts bounce). In /etc/inetd.conf you have to remove the # marks with the telnetd line to make the telnet daemon active. __ message envoye depuis http://www.ifrance.com emails (pop)-sites persos (espace illimite)-agenda-favoris (bookmarks)-forums Ecoutez ce message par tel ! : 08 92 68 92 15 (france uniquement) Pete Clapham Department of Biological, Geological, and Environmental Sciences Cleveland State University Cleveland, Ohio, 44115 Voice: [216] 687-4820 Fax: [216] 523-7200 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Remote login (telnet and X)
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, you wrote: I *have* set of ftpd (wu-ftpd, and anonftp) on the mMDK box, and cannot ftp in...Out, yes, but in, still no. I can say that I have no problems on my network either locally or remotely logging in. As for your ftp setup not allowing you in, do you have your psswd, ftpaccess files set up properly? If you get those right and add a comment to allow anonymous ftp then everything should werk for you. Maxtor
