Re: [newbie] user menu items not available
Erylon Hines wrote: On Friday 30 January 2004 03:05 pm, Margot wrote: Erylon Hines wrote: On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:28 pm, Margot wrote: Margot wrote: Checked the files you suggested - all were installed except the first one, and when I tried to get it this was the result: unable to access rpm file [popt-1.8-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm] error registering local packages I've tried rpm rebuilddb and urpmi update -a but with no luck. Any ideas where this file should be? Thanks Margot I'm betting that's the problem. All 6 packages must be installed to update and fix the package db bug. Try rpmfind.net. and dl the individual package. I think I got mine from one of the Mandrake mirrors. Remember, I downloaded and installed the rpms individually because I'm on dial-up and a full package update for all of 9.2 would take me forever to download. If you can't find it, I can mail it to you--it is only 63kb. Ok so far... I've found the rpm through rpmfind, and downloaded it into a temporary directory. What do I do with it now? Is it as simple as opening konqeror (presumably as root) and dragging the rpm from its temporary home into the correct location? If so, where should it live? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] user menu items not available
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 13:40, Margot wrote: Erylon Hines wrote: On Friday 30 January 2004 03:05 pm, Margot wrote: Erylon Hines wrote: On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:28 pm, Margot wrote: Margot wrote: Checked the files you suggested - all were installed except the first one, and when I tried to get it this was the result: unable to access rpm file [popt-1.8-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm] error registering local packages I've tried rpm rebuilddb and urpmi update -a but with no luck. Any ideas where this file should be? Thanks Margot I'm betting that's the problem. All 6 packages must be installed to update and fix the package db bug. Try rpmfind.net. and dl the individual package. I think I got mine from one of the Mandrake mirrors. Remember, I downloaded and installed the rpms individually because I'm on dial-up and a full package update for all of 9.2 would take me forever to download. If you can't find it, I can mail it to you--it is only 63kb. Ok so far... I've found the rpm through rpmfind, and downloaded it into a temporary directory. What do I do with it now? Is it as simple as opening konqeror (presumably as root) and dragging the rpm from its temporary home into the correct location? If so, where should it live? Click on the RPM in konq , give root password and it should install it self. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] user menu items not available
Erylon Hines wrote: On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:28 pm, Margot wrote: Margot wrote: Thanks, but that isn't the problem. Perhaps I'm not explaining myself clearly... 2 snapshots attached, user and root versions of menudrake. The root version contains the list of available applications, the user one does not. I want to add some of these applications to the user menu, not the root menu - pointless having them on the root menu as I never log in as root. How do I get the available applications list into the user version of menudrake so I can then add them to the user menu? Margot, are you absolutely sure you have all the update rpms installed for the update-menu fix? What's happening is exactly my symptoms before I (manually) installed the fix. There are 6 of them: popt-1.8-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm popt-devel- rpm-4.2-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm rpm-build- rpm-devel- rpm-python- Sorry to take so long replying - been busy! Checked the files you suggested - all were installed except the first one, and when I tried to get it this was the result: unable to access rpm file [popt-1.8-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm] error registering local packages I've tried rpm rebuilddb and urpmi update -a but with no luck. Any ideas where this file should be? Thanks Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] user menu items not available
mike wrote: Margot wrote: Thanks, but that isn't the problem. Perhaps I'm not explaining myself clearly... 2 snapshots attached, user and root versions of menudrake. The root version contains the list of available applications, the user one does not. I want to add some of these applications to the user menu, not the root menu - pointless having them on the root menu as I never log in as root. How do I get the available applications list into the user version of menudrake so I can then add them to the user menu? Yes, I miss understood you. I looked at my settings under menudrake for root and system and I have all applications checked under menu style. Also running menudrake as user I have all applications checked. I do seem to have everything except some legasy apps, which can be added by issueing command kappfinder I believe. Kappfinder added 34 items to my menu, including some but not all the ones I was looking for. Unfortunately, when I tried menudrake again to get the rest, the ones I'd added from kappfinder disappeared again! And menudrake still didn't give me the rest! But I used kappfinder again to get back the 34, so I'm slightly better off than I was before - thanks for pointing out a useful tool. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] user menu items not available
On Friday 30 January 2004 03:05 pm, Margot wrote: Erylon Hines wrote: On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:28 pm, Margot wrote: Margot wrote: Checked the files you suggested - all were installed except the first one, and when I tried to get it this was the result: unable to access rpm file [popt-1.8-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm] error registering local packages I've tried rpm rebuilddb and urpmi update -a but with no luck. Any ideas where this file should be? Thanks Margot I'm betting that's the problem. All 6 packages must be installed to update and fix the package db bug. Try rpmfind.net. and dl the individual package. I think I got mine from one of the Mandrake mirrors. Remember, I downloaded and installed the rpms individually because I'm on dial-up and a full package update for all of 9.2 would take me forever to download. If you can't find it, I can mail it to you--it is only 63kb. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] user menu items not available
ronald wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:49:53 + Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what I need to know is how to transfer this list of applications to the 'user' version of menudrake, so I can add them to the user menu. hey Margot, if you start menudrake as user there is an option to Use system administrator settings in the actions change-style tab HTH. ronald Thanks for the thought, but the 'system administrator' style has even less on it than the 'all applications' style that I've been using! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] user menu items not available
On January 25, 2004 07:05, Margot wrote: ronald wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:49:53 + Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what I need to know is how to transfer this list of applications to the 'user' version of menudrake, so I can add them to the user menu. hey Margot, if you start menudrake as user there is an option to Use system administrator settings in the actions change-style tab HTH. ronald Thanks for the thought, but the 'system administrator' style has even less on it than the 'all applications' style that I've been using! Hi Margot, Hopefully you can get a terminal going after logging in as a user. In that terminal you can run su - type in the root password when asked. Then type menudrake. As the menudrake program starts you will be asked to choose from from root menu and system menu (users). Choose system. Let the program build/sort the menu then save. Inside the the menudrake program you will see at the top right 2 radio buttons indicating system/root choose root this time then again let the program build/sort menus then save. Ignore the errors about DCOP server in term window where you started the menudrake program. Once this is done, your menus should be fine. Hope this helps and I apologize for not going into more detail in my previous post. Regards, Phil Savoie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] user menu items not available
mike wrote: Margot wrote: ronald wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:49:53 + Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what I need to know is how to transfer this list of applications to the 'user' version of menudrake, so I can add them to the user menu. hey Margot, if you start menudrake as user there is an option to Use system administrator settings in the actions change-style tab HTH. ronald Thanks for the thought, but the 'system administrator' style has even less on it than the 'all applications' style that I've been using! Hi Margot, I had a similar problem with my kde, and everything I tried could not get my menus back to the way they were. update-menus -v generated some errors, I wasn'nt sure what to due about them. I did some searching and found a post on MandrakeExpert list archives by James Sparenberg heres a link. http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg79939.html My problem under the file /home/mike/.menu/menudrakeentry was similar to below. ?package(menu): needs=fluxbox section=Fluxbox/Styles/usr/ icon=applications_section.png title= charset=utf8 The title= was my problem so I (knowing this is not the right way) looked at other entries guessed on what it should be so I used editer and changed title= to title=share saved the file and ran update-menus -v again and got all my menus back. Check your /home/Margot/.menu/menudrakeentry file and if you have a missing title= line post back and perhaps someone on list may have the correct entry for that particular line? Thats if, you have the same problem as I had. Thanks, but that isn't the problem. Perhaps I'm not explaining myself clearly... 2 snapshots attached, user and root versions of menudrake. The root version contains the list of available applications, the user one does not. I want to add some of these applications to the user menu, not the root menu - pointless having them on the root menu as I never log in as root. How do I get the available applications list into the user version of menudrake so I can then add them to the user menu? inline: mdroot.pnginline: mduser.pngWant to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] user menu items not available
Margot wrote: Thanks, but that isn't the problem. Perhaps I'm not explaining myself clearly... 2 snapshots attached, user and root versions of menudrake. The root version contains the list of available applications, the user one does not. I want to add some of these applications to the user menu, not the root menu - pointless having them on the root menu as I never log in as root. How do I get the available applications list into the user version of menudrake so I can then add them to the user menu? Yes, I miss understood you. I looked at my settings under menudrake for root and system and I have all applications checked under menu style. Also running menudrake as user I have all applications checked. I do seem to have everything except some legasy apps, which can be added by issueing command kappfinder I believe. As far as applications under available apps in menudrake I have none in root,system, or user. I think they end up there if you remove them or use adminitrative settings. I dont know why they dont show up in your menus if you have all applications checked in your user menudrake. Disregard this if you have allready tried this. Run menudrake from mcc and set system to menustyle=all applications then save it, and exit. Then as user open a terminal and run menudrake and set menustyle=all applications and save it. Log out and restart Xwindows. -- Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] user menu items not available
On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:28 pm, Margot wrote: Margot wrote: Thanks, but that isn't the problem. Perhaps I'm not explaining myself clearly... 2 snapshots attached, user and root versions of menudrake. The root version contains the list of available applications, the user one does not. I want to add some of these applications to the user menu, not the root menu - pointless having them on the root menu as I never log in as root. How do I get the available applications list into the user version of menudrake so I can then add them to the user menu? Margot, are you absolutely sure you have all the update rpms installed for the update-menu fix? What's happening is exactly my symptoms before I (manually) installed the fix. There are 6 of them: popt-1.8-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm popt-devel- rpm-4.2-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm rpm-build- rpm-devel- rpm-python- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] user menu items not available
Hi Margot, What I have done in the past that works for me is in a terminal window, run menudrake. Let it build/sort the menu then save it. Phil On Saturday 24 January 2004 10:20, Margot wrote: Some of the packages I've installed are not available on the user menu in KDE. I know about the 'menu bug', and I've downloaded all the necessary updates, but some things are still missing. When I go into menudrake as root, the panel for Available Applications contains all the missing packages. However, when I go into menudrake as user, the Available Applications panel is empty. I can call up the applications if I open a terminal, but I'd rather have them on the user menu so I don't have to remember the commands! How do I get these Available Applications moved over to the user menu rather than just root? I've tried 'update-menus -v' as both root and user, but it makes no difference. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] user menu items not available
Phil Savoie wrote: On Saturday 24 January 2004 10:20, Margot wrote: Some of the packages I've installed are not available on the user menu in KDE. I know about the 'menu bug', and I've downloaded all the necessary updates, but some things are still missing. When I go into menudrake as root, the panel for Available Applications contains all the missing packages. However, when I go into menudrake as user, the Available Applications panel is empty. I can call up the applications if I open a terminal, but I'd rather have them on the user menu so I don't have to remember the commands! How do I get these Available Applications moved over to the user menu rather than just root? I've tried 'update-menus -v' as both root and user, but it makes no difference. Margot Hi Margot, What I have done in the past that works for me is in a terminal window, run menudrake. Let it build/sort the menu then save it. Phil Phil, Thanks for the reply, but I've already tried menudrake both as root and as user. The items I want to add to the user menu only appear in the 'root' version of menudrake - what I need to know is how to transfer this list of applications to the 'user' version of menudrake, so I can add them to the user menu. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] user menu items not available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:49:53 + Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what I need to know is how to transfer this list of applications to the 'user' version of menudrake, so I can add them to the user menu. hey Margot, if you start menudrake as user there is an option to Use system administrator settings in the actions change-style tab HTH. ronald - -- Registered Linux User 163597 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAEvq1oPgG5kUDwJIRAq2cAJ4i2mV7YX8+NSenVwagIaaLlYEdEQCghVoK 0WlIQEZswmaiBw9JUqJhWWk= =y7AJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com