Re: [newbie] user menu items not available

2004-01-31 Thread Margot
Erylon Hines wrote:
On Friday 30 January 2004 03:05 pm, Margot wrote:

Erylon Hines wrote:

On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:28 pm, Margot wrote:

Margot wrote:


Checked the files you suggested - all were installed except the first
one, and when I tried to get it this was the result:
unable to access rpm file [popt-1.8-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm]
error registering local packages
I've tried rpm rebuilddb and urpmi update -a but with no luck. Any ideas
where this file should be?
Thanks
Margot


I'm betting that's the problem.  All 6 packages must be installed to update 
and fix the  package db bug.
Try rpmfind.net. and dl the individual package.   I think I got mine from one 
of the Mandrake mirrors.  Remember, I downloaded and installed the rpms 
individually because I'm on dial-up and a full package update for all of 9.2 
would take me forever to download.
If you can't find it, I can mail it to you--it is only 63kb.

Ok so far... I've found the rpm through rpmfind, and downloaded it into 
a temporary directory. What do I do with it now? Is it as simple as 
opening konqeror (presumably as root) and dragging the rpm from its 
temporary home into the correct location? If so, where should it live?

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Re: [newbie] user menu items not available

2004-01-31 Thread aronsmith
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 13:40, Margot wrote:
 Erylon Hines wrote:
  On Friday 30 January 2004 03:05 pm, Margot wrote:
  
 Erylon Hines wrote:
 
 On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:28 pm, Margot wrote:
 
 Margot wrote:
  
  
 Checked the files you suggested - all were installed except the first
 one, and when I tried to get it this was the result:
 
 unable to access rpm file [popt-1.8-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm]
 error registering local packages
 
 I've tried rpm rebuilddb and urpmi update -a but with no luck. Any ideas
 where this file should be?
 
 Thanks
 Margot
  
  
  I'm betting that's the problem.  All 6 packages must be installed to update 
  and fix the  package db bug.
  Try rpmfind.net. and dl the individual package.   I think I got mine from one 
  of the Mandrake mirrors.  Remember, I downloaded and installed the rpms 
  individually because I'm on dial-up and a full package update for all of 9.2 
  would take me forever to download.
  If you can't find it, I can mail it to you--it is only 63kb.
  
 
 Ok so far... I've found the rpm through rpmfind, and downloaded it into 
 a temporary directory. What do I do with it now? Is it as simple as 
 opening konqeror (presumably as root) and dragging the rpm from its 
 temporary home into the correct location? If so, where should it live?
Click on the RPM in konq , give root password and it should install it
self.
 
 
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Re: [newbie] user menu items not available

2004-01-30 Thread Margot
Erylon Hines wrote:
On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:28 pm, Margot wrote:


Margot wrote:



Thanks, but that isn't the problem. Perhaps I'm not explaining myself
clearly... 2 snapshots attached, user and root versions of menudrake.
The root version contains the list of available applications, the user
one does not. I want to add some of these applications to the user menu,
not the root menu - pointless having them on the root menu as I never
log in as root. How do I get the available applications list into the
user version of menudrake so I can then add them to the user menu?


Margot, are you absolutely sure you have all the update rpms installed for the 
update-menu fix?  What's happening is exactly my symptoms before I (manually) 
installed the fix.  There are 6 of them:

  			popt-1.8-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm
	   popt-devel-   
			 rpm-4.2-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm
	 rpm-build-
	rpm-devel-
	  rpm-python-

Sorry to take so long replying - been busy!

Checked the files you suggested - all were installed except the first 
one, and when I tried to get it this was the result:

unable to access rpm file [popt-1.8-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm]
error registering local packages
I've tried rpm rebuilddb and urpmi update -a but with no luck. Any ideas 
where this file should be?

Thanks
Margot

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Re: [newbie] user menu items not available

2004-01-30 Thread Margot
mike wrote:
Margot wrote:

Thanks, but that isn't the problem. Perhaps I'm not explaining myself 
clearly... 2 snapshots attached, user and root versions of menudrake. 
The root version contains the list of available applications, the user 
one does not. I want to add some of these applications to the user 
menu, not the root menu - pointless having them on the root menu as I 
never log in as root. How do I get the available applications list 
into the user version of menudrake so I can then add them to the user 
menu?


Yes, I miss understood you.
I looked at my settings under menudrake for root and system
and I have all applications checked under menu style.
Also running menudrake as user I have all applications checked.
I do seem to have everything except some legasy apps, which can
be added by issueing command kappfinder I believe.
Kappfinder added 34 items to my menu, including some but not all the 
ones I was looking for. Unfortunately, when I tried menudrake again to 
get the rest, the ones I'd added from kappfinder disappeared again! And 
menudrake still didn't give me the rest! But I used kappfinder again to 
get back the 34, so I'm slightly better off than I was before - thanks 
for pointing out a useful tool.

Margot

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Re: [newbie] user menu items not available

2004-01-30 Thread Erylon Hines
On Friday 30 January 2004 03:05 pm, Margot wrote:
 Erylon Hines wrote:
  On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:28 pm, Margot wrote:
 Margot wrote:


 Checked the files you suggested - all were installed except the first
 one, and when I tried to get it this was the result:

 unable to access rpm file [popt-1.8-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm]
 error registering local packages

 I've tried rpm rebuilddb and urpmi update -a but with no luck. Any ideas
 where this file should be?

 Thanks
 Margot

I'm betting that's the problem.  All 6 packages must be installed to update 
and fix the  package db bug.
Try rpmfind.net. and dl the individual package.   I think I got mine from one 
of the Mandrake mirrors.  Remember, I downloaded and installed the rpms 
individually because I'm on dial-up and a full package update for all of 9.2 
would take me forever to download.
If you can't find it, I can mail it to you--it is only 63kb.

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Re: [newbie] user menu items not available

2004-01-25 Thread Margot
ronald wrote:
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Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

what I need to know is how to transfer 
this list of applications to the 'user' version of menudrake, so I can 
add them to the user menu.


hey Margot,

if you start menudrake as user there is an option to Use system administrator 
settings
in the actions  change-style tab
HTH. ronald

Thanks for the thought, but the 'system administrator' style has even 
less on it than the 'all applications' style that I've been using!

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Re: [newbie] user menu items not available

2004-01-25 Thread Phil Savoie
On January 25, 2004 07:05, Margot wrote:
 ronald wrote:
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  On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:49:53 +
 
  Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what I need to know is how to transfer
 this list of applications to the 'user' version of menudrake, so I can
 add them to the user menu.
 
  hey Margot,
 
  if you start menudrake as user there is an option to Use system
  administrator settings in the actions  change-style tab
 
 
  HTH. ronald

 Thanks for the thought, but the 'system administrator' style has even
 less on it than the 'all applications' style that I've been using!

Hi Margot,

Hopefully you can get a terminal going after logging in as a user.  In that 
terminal you can run su -   type in the root password when asked.  Then type 
menudrake.  
As the  menudrake program starts you will be asked to choose from from root 
menu and system menu (users).   Choose system.  Let the program build/sort 
the menu then save.
Inside the the menudrake program you will see at the top right 2 radio buttons 
indicating   system/root  choose root this time then again let the program 
build/sort menus then save.  Ignore the errors about DCOP server in term 
window where you started the menudrake program.

Once this is done, your menus should be fine.

Hope this helps and I apologize for not going into more detail in my previous 
post.

Regards,

Phil Savoie


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Re: [newbie] user menu items not available

2004-01-25 Thread Margot
mike wrote:
Margot wrote:

ronald wrote:

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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:49:53 +
Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

what I need to know is how to transfer this list of applications to 
the 'user' version of menudrake, so I can add them to the user menu.




hey Margot,

if you start menudrake as user there is an option to Use system 
administrator settings
in the actions  change-style tab

HTH. ronald

Thanks for the thought, but the 'system administrator' style has even 
less on it than the 'all applications' style that I've been using!


Hi Margot, I had a similar problem with my kde, and everything I tried 
could not get my menus back to the way they were.
update-menus -v generated some errors, I wasn'nt sure what to due
about them. I did some searching and found a post on MandrakeExpert
list archives by James Sparenberg heres a link.

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg79939.html

My problem under the file  /home/mike/.menu/menudrakeentry
was similar to below.
?package(menu): needs=fluxbox section=Fluxbox/Styles/usr/ 
icon=applications_section.png title= charset=utf8

The title= was my problem so I (knowing this is not the right way)
looked at other entries guessed on what it should be so I used
editer and changed title= to title=share saved the file and
ran update-menus -v again and got all my menus back.
Check your /home/Margot/.menu/menudrakeentry file and if you have
a missing title= line post back and perhaps someone on list
may have the correct entry for that particular line?
Thats if, you have the same problem as I had.

Thanks, but that isn't the problem. Perhaps I'm not explaining myself 
clearly... 2 snapshots attached, user and root versions of menudrake. 
The root version contains the list of available applications, the user 
one does not. I want to add some of these applications to the user menu, 
not the root menu - pointless having them on the root menu as I never 
log in as root. How do I get the available applications list into the 
user version of menudrake so I can then add them to the user menu?
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Re: [newbie] user menu items not available

2004-01-25 Thread mike
Margot wrote:

Thanks, but that isn't the problem. Perhaps I'm not explaining myself 
clearly... 2 snapshots attached, user and root versions of menudrake. 
The root version contains the list of available applications, the user 
one does not. I want to add some of these applications to the user menu, 
not the root menu - pointless having them on the root menu as I never 
log in as root. How do I get the available applications list into the 
user version of menudrake so I can then add them to the user menu?
Yes, I miss understood you.
I looked at my settings under menudrake for root and system
and I have all applications checked under menu style.
Also running menudrake as user I have all applications checked.
I do seem to have everything except some legasy apps, which can
be added by issueing command kappfinder I believe.
As far as applications under available apps in menudrake I have none
in root,system, or user. I think they end up there if you remove
them or use adminitrative settings. I dont know why they dont show 
up in your menus if you have all applications checked in your user
menudrake.

Disregard this if you have allready tried this.
Run menudrake from mcc and set system to menustyle=all applications
then save it, and exit. Then as user open a terminal and run
menudrake and set menustyle=all applications and save it.
Log out and restart Xwindows.
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Re: [newbie] user menu items not available

2004-01-25 Thread Erylon Hines
On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:28 pm, Margot wrote:

  Margot wrote:


 Thanks, but that isn't the problem. Perhaps I'm not explaining myself
 clearly... 2 snapshots attached, user and root versions of menudrake.
 The root version contains the list of available applications, the user
 one does not. I want to add some of these applications to the user menu,
 not the root menu - pointless having them on the root menu as I never
 log in as root. How do I get the available applications list into the
 user version of menudrake so I can then add them to the user menu?

Margot, are you absolutely sure you have all the update rpms installed for the 
update-menu fix?  What's happening is exactly my symptoms before I (manually) 
installed the fix.  There are 6 of them:

popt-1.8-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm
   popt-devel-   
 rpm-4.2-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm
 rpm-build-
rpm-devel-
  rpm-python-




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Re: [newbie] user menu items not available

2004-01-24 Thread Phil Savoie
Hi Margot,

What I have done in the past that works for me is in a terminal window, run 
menudrake.  Let it build/sort the menu then save it.

Phil

On Saturday 24 January 2004 10:20, Margot wrote:
 Some of the packages I've installed are not available on the user menu
 in KDE. I know about the 'menu bug', and I've downloaded all the
 necessary updates, but some things are still missing.

 When I go into menudrake as root, the panel for Available Applications
 contains all the missing packages. However, when I go into menudrake as
 user, the Available Applications panel is empty.

 I can call up the applications if I open a terminal, but I'd rather have
 them on the user menu so I don't have to remember the commands! How do I
 get these Available Applications moved over to the user menu rather than
 just root? I've tried 'update-menus -v' as both root and user, but it
 makes no difference.

 Margot


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Re: [newbie] user menu items not available

2004-01-24 Thread Margot
Phil Savoie wrote:
On Saturday 24 January 2004 10:20, Margot wrote:

Some of the packages I've installed are not available on the user menu
in KDE. I know about the 'menu bug', and I've downloaded all the
necessary updates, but some things are still missing.
When I go into menudrake as root, the panel for Available Applications
contains all the missing packages. However, when I go into menudrake as
user, the Available Applications panel is empty.
I can call up the applications if I open a terminal, but I'd rather have
them on the user menu so I don't have to remember the commands! How do I
get these Available Applications moved over to the user menu rather than
just root? I've tried 'update-menus -v' as both root and user, but it
makes no difference.
Margot


 Hi Margot,

 What I have done in the past that works for me is in a terminal 
window, run
 menudrake.  Let it build/sort the menu then save it.

 Phil


Phil,

Thanks for the reply, but I've already tried menudrake both as root and 
as user. The items I want to add to the user menu only appear in the 
'root' version of menudrake - what I need to know is how to transfer 
this list of applications to the 'user' version of menudrake, so I can 
add them to the user menu.

Margot

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Re: [newbie] user menu items not available

2004-01-24 Thread ronald
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 22:49:53 +
Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 what I need to know is how to transfer 
 this list of applications to the 'user' version of menudrake, so I can 
 add them to the user menu.

hey Margot,

if you start menudrake as user there is an option to Use system administrator 
settings
in the actions  change-style tab


HTH. ronald

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