[newbie-it] Orario Sette Fusi... ?_?

2001-07-08 Per discussione Corrado

Da quando ho installato la 8.0, ho questo singolare problema... se
configuro l'orario corretto, agli altri risutlo 7 ore avanti... Ho
effettuato un controllo e relative modifiche tramite Control Center;
l'orologio ora è settato certamente sul fuso di Roma, ma così ora che
sono le 20:51 sul mio desktop paiono essere le 14:52... una cosa del
genere non mi era mai successa prima, qualche suggerimento?

Corrado





Re: [newbie-it] Orario Sette Fusi... ?_?

2001-07-08 Per discussione Corrado

Daniele Micci wrote:

 Il 20:52, domenica 08 luglio 2001, hai scritto:
  Da quando ho installato la 8.0, ho questo singolare problema... se
  configuro l'orario corretto, agli altri risutlo 7 ore avanti... Ho
  effettuato un controllo e relative modifiche tramite Control Center;
  l'orologio ora è settato certamente sul fuso di Roma, ma così ora che
  sono le 20:51 sul mio desktop paiono essere le 14:52... una cosa del
  genere non mi era mai successa prima, qualche suggerimento?
 
  Corrado

 Imposti il fuso orario di Roma e POI rimetti a posto l'ora.

Il punto è che l'ora risultava già a posto... ora ho fatto una cosa
singolare: ho riavviato il pc :)
Vediamo se è tutto a posto

Corrado





[newbie-it] Fax

2001-07-08 Per discussione Francesco Speranza

Qualcuno puo' consigliarmi un programma con veste grafica utilizzabile
per inviare e/o ricevere fax dal facile uso?( ho un  modem ISDN )




[newbie] Internet Connection sharing causing grief with ppp.

2001-07-08 Per discussione Greg Turnbull

I have installed Internet connection sharing through Drakconf on Mandarke 
7.2. 
While my ethernet conection seems to function to the other computers and they 
get an allocated ip address (192.168.0.*), browsing doesnt work through ppp0 
even on the linux box itself. 
I can ping the ip address of the modem at the other end of the ISP modem 
connection but thats about it.
Strangely enough if i disable my eth0 connection to my other computers and 
restart linux and dial in the internet connection starts working again.

My local ip which is mapped to my network card is 192.168.0.1

An ideas anyone?

Greg Turnbull




[newbie] format HDD

2001-07-08 Per discussione ivan miranda


Hi all,
Which prog can i use to install a new harddisk into LM8i
mean,format on ext2 and then mount on to the system.
-- 
Ivan Miranda
General Instrument Engineer/IT support
Po Box 8746,Doha,Qatar
Ph:974-4402524/4402773
Fax:974-4323380




[newbie] A fault with sound in Mandrake 8

2001-07-08 Per discussione Michael Carr

Hi,

I've been encountering a rather peculiar fault with sound in Mandrake 8.

Following an entirely fresh reinstallation which correctly detected the
card's chipset as Trident Microsystems 4DWave NX, I noticed that kscd was
mute.

Opening kmix, turning up all of the faders to maximum (while checking none
had been set to mute), saving the configuration as the new default and
rebooting, I then noticed that while kscd was working properly, RealPlayer,
Noatum (the KDE media player) and xmms were mute, despite the files'
output being displayed on the analyser/oscilloscope.

HardDrake configuration tool's 8-bit sample was, unsurprisingly, also
silent.

It's enough to make you want to go out and buy SuSE 7.2. [joke]

Michael






[newbie] Pls help !

2001-07-08 Per discussione AOL Systems

I just want to ask what book you can recommend before  taking RHCE exams

But I hope the book will cover the latest exam for RHCE not the older
exam of RHCE wich is not used anymore Pls. help me and if any resources
that i can download reviewers for RHCE exams thanks!


Respectfully
AOL
www.aolsystems.com





Re: [newbie] Change package architecture?

2001-07-08 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

All first generation Pentiums (including their MMX variants) are i586. Any 
CPU built on Pentium Pro (or PPro) technology is an i686. This includes the 
Pentium II, Celeron and Pentium III. The Pentium IV is a different 
architecture again, and probably would be classified as an i786.

Since i686 processors have capabilities beyond those of their i586 
predecessors, an i686-optimised binary may not run well on an i586, if at 
all. It may be worth giving it a try, but dont expect too much, particularly 
on a non-Intel chip.


On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 09:11, etharp wrote:
 I would bet it will run, but you might be better off to try and download
 the i586 version if you could. as i understand it (and i ain't no ex-spurt)
 the i686 starts around the time mmx extensions started, but almost any
 socket 7 pentium (as opposed to socket 5) or faster would/should be able to
 run i686 rpms. would also, anytime asking for help (I believe) to include
 as much information as might be applicable. in otherwords please explain
 further, the speed of CPU and motherboard, memory, just what RPM you want
 to install, what other questions might be asked. G

 On Saturday 07 July 2001 17:16, Jon Doe wrote:
  On Saturday 07 July 2001 05:05 pm, you wrote:
   might help to know if this i586 is a pentium 90 or cyrix 266 or celeron
   466.?
  
   On Saturday 07 July 2001 16:51, Jon Doe wrote:
I have an  i686.rpm that I want to install on my i586. Is this
possible? If so how?
 
  AMD K6. Is that what you were looking for?

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
-- Jeremy S. Anderson




Re: [newbie] kmail - setting flags on inbox email

2001-07-08 Per discussione Sridhar Dhanapalan

Kmail in KDE 2.2 will have this feature. I am currently using Kmail in KDE 
2.2 beta 1 (from Cooker). It works really well.

On Sat, 7 Jul 2001 05:46, Alan Smith wrote:
 Hi All
 In netscape you can set a flag against any individual email. I found this
 useful to identify emails that i wanted to go back to or to remind me not
 to delete impetously.

 Is there a way of flagging emails in kmail?

 Thanks
 Alan Smith

-- 
Sridhar Dhanapalan.
There are two major products that come from Berkeley:
LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
-- Jeremy S. Anderson




Re: [newbie] ParPort Scanner

2001-07-08 Per discussione Ed Tharp

in bios is your parrellport set bidirectional ? (ecp or ehp or something
like that as I remember) do you dual boot and does it work in winders?
- Original Message -
From: Corrado [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 4:54 AM
Subject: [newbie] ParPort Scanner


 My HP 3200c should now work using sane 1.0.5 with umax_pp; but even if I
 did everything said in both sane and sourceforge web sites, Linux still
 is unable to see the device; did somebody mangaed to make it work?

 Thanks

 Corrado







Re: [newbie] Netscape and KDE

2001-07-08 Per discussione Michael Scottaline



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Hello Group...

 

 I installed and have been using LM 8.0 for about a month and a half now. I 

 know I read somewhere about why Netscape opens with colorless buttons, but I 

 can't remember where it was that I saw that. Anyway, how is that corrected so 

 that the toolbars look real?

==
My guess is that your color depth i set to 24 bpp.  Try 16, or 32 if your card/monitor
combination will support it.
HTH,
Mike
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dreadful idolatry took place there.
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Re: [newbie] kwintv missing in MDK 8

2001-07-08 Per discussione Ed Tharp

I use xaw for TV viewing in 8.0
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 1:09 AM
Subject: [newbie] kwintv missing in MDK 8


 In mdk 8 kwintv is missing in both CDs. I tried to install it from mdk
7.2. I
 got dependency error. How to go about
 --
 L.V.Gandhi
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Re: [newbie] Use of Linux

2001-07-08 Per discussione Ed Tharp

I agree with most of your points, although loving netbeui is not necessarily
my choice. I would also point out that linux, with all it's configuration
abilities and learning curve (mostly an admin type thing really, most users
should not have to setup anything, and in most business operations the IT
dept does not want users screwing with the settings.
Now the real point I wanted to make here. You say:
 The reality is that Linux will never penetrate the SOHO/home market
unless it bgecomes
 easier to manage and more accommodating to the needs and preferences of
 non-technical users. There is no reason a powerful OS can't have a
 friendly face.
As I see it, a problem like XP's rental (my term, not M$'s) software idea
is likely to insure that everyone pays for M$ software that uses it, but the
hassle of not being able to try the software on another computer, continued
re-registrations (again MY term) and possible increase in lic. charges,
(and If I remember correctly, M$ has changed the lic. agreement after the
fact before, and required additional per-seat payments in the past, when NT
server was new) will sour almost anyone one on big Bro Billy's pocket lining
schemes, err I mean whatever is next for wineblows,,,err window$. Also as I
see it, Linux has a MUCH friendlier face. I mean you thinks penguins are
rough and terrible? I mean a cloud or a building component (a window or a
Gate) might be some what inanimate and present an open hole, but they are
not the least bit friendly unless the are an open hole in what otherwise is
a device to provide privacy (a window is part of a wall, but the open hole
in it, Gates are an open in a fence. I don't consider either walls or Gates
to be friendly. grin
By The Way, i don't hate winders, I am useing it right now. of course if all
my hardware worked in linux I would not hardly ever boot into winders, (I
have a USB scanner [acer320usb] that only cost $35.00 US after rebates, that
is not completely supported yetsure wish Acer would wake up and get
their heads out...) and someday it might, but for right now... they both
work for me.





[newbie] Run My KMail While Logged Under Root?

2001-07-08 Per discussione Curtis Matthiesen

Hi there,

I was wondering if there is a way that I can run my Kmail account while I'm 
logged under as Root.

For example if there is a switch of some sort that'll allow me to do this, 
so that way if I am logged under Root I don't have to
Ctrl + Alt + Backspace and relogon just to get to my email.

TIA

Curtis
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Re: [newbie] ParPort Scanner

2001-07-08 Per discussione Corrado

Ed Tharp wrote:

 in bios is your parrellport set bidirectional ? (ecp or ehp or something
 like that as I remember)
 
Yes, I tried all option: SPP (which is the wrong one :), EPP and EPP+ECP...

  do you dual boot and does it work in winders?
 
Yes, it does...


Corrado

 
 - Original Message -
 From: Corrado [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 4:54 AM
 Subject: [newbie] ParPort Scanner
 
 
 My HP 3200c should now work using sane 1.0.5 with umax_pp; but even if I
 did everything said in both sane and sourceforge web sites, Linux still
 is unable to see the device; did somebody mangaed to make it work?
 
 Thanks
 
 Corrado
 
 
 
 
 








Re: [newbie] Internet Security

2001-07-08 Per discussione Tom Brinkman

On Saturday 07 July 2001 09:52 pm, Judith Miner wrote:

 DrakConf shows iptables as stopped and there is no way I can get it
 running. I have it selected to run at boot, like the other services.
 Makes no difference. iptables is always listed as stopped. If I click
 on start, nothing happens.

   I believe this is normal. IOW's iptables isn't a running service all 
the time, it just needs to be available.  You should have these binaries 
in /sbin :  iptables*   iptables-restore*   iptables-save*

  Also go thru the docs in

 file:/usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/user.html/bastille.html   and you'll
 see screenshots of what you should be seeing. 

 That file is not on my computer. I believe it is part of mandrake-doc,
 which I have tried to install numerous times and it WILL NOT install.

 Somethin's wrong with your hardware or the CD's you've got?
I did 8.0 updates immediately after installing, so maybe an update fixes 
your problem (?)
 
 always get the informative error message Installation failed.
 Nothing else. Um, WHY did it fail? C'mon, Linux, help me out here! I
 copied the file from the CD to my hard drive; sometimes that helps. Not
 this time, though. So where can I try to get another copy of this file?

   You can get any file Mandrake ships with from any of the ftp mirrors.
mandrake_doc-en-8.0-2mdk  provides the bastille docs

medium security has little or nothing to do with being able to get

 thru a thoro port scan with all ports invisible/filtered. 

 What does medium security have to do with, then? I'd think making ports
 invisible is pretty universal to security. If it's just internal
 network stuff,

   Yes, mostly, at least as I understand it.  I know that you can have 
your security setting at the lowest, and still pass a port scan with a 
proper firewall.  Also that setting your security level to the highest, 
but without a firewall, won't get you past a port scan.

 I may as well not bother with it because nobody else has
 access to my computer. My only concern is Internet security. If
 Bastille won't close my ports, what will?

 You have to have open ports to run your system and get on the Net. 
What you don't want is for those ports to be seen or accessible by 
others. ( and that about sums up my security expertise ;)  I don't 
know what else to suggest. You're gonna have to get DrakConf - Security - 
Firewalling functioning to setup a firewall. I suppose you could script a 
firewall manually if you were a iptables guru (but I'm not). Try su'ing 
to root in a terminal and running DrakConf that way.  Might work, or at 
least spit out some error messages.  You are using a 2.4.x kernel with 
iptables, right?
--
Tom Brinkman  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay




Re: [newbie] Use of Linux

2001-07-08 Per discussione etharp

one of the problems with your argument is that your windows setup could allow 
someone to set up a script that after you had launched any program in say... 
M$ Office, the next time your computer was left turned on at say, 3 am, it 
could concievable be used to, lets say dial up a phone number in Timbuktu and 
change your dialup number to look as if you are still dialing into your 
regular ISP but infact are dialing to Haiti and running up a NICE bill. or 
maybe they would use your computer (a little script) to launch a DDOS attack 
so that the trace would be back to your 1 or 2 user home computer network. 
No as i think about it... heck I would like everyone ELSE to use winders

On Saturday 07 July 2001 18:15, Judith Miner wrote:
snip certainly not be downloading programs, installing anything, or
 messing with the system. That leaves one person--me--as root and user.
 Shares are irrelevant in this situation. So are permissions. And so is

 this kind of business:
 With linux, there is more control over who can actually see the

 shares--you have options to limit by IP (such that only specific
 computers on the network can even see the shares), by users (such that
 only specific users on the linux server can see the shares), by
 permission (such that only certain users or groups of users can edit the
 files, and other users or groups have read only privilege), or by a
 combination of the above (such that only certain users from certain
 computers can see the shares). 

 I agree that all of this is great on a multiuser system, even one with,
 say, 10 users such as a smallish business, but on a two- or
 three-computer, one- or two-user home network, it's irrelevant and more
 of a bother than a feature.

  This also leaves out the security risks of sharing an entire hard

 drive to begin with, especially under windows.  You are much better off
 only sharing directories on the drive, then the whole thing (with the
 wrong permissions, someone could delete the entire Windows or winnt
 directory, which would leave the computer unuseable and almost certainly
 require either a re-install, or recopying the hard drive image back to
 the PC.) 

 These are all good points unless the one sharing the hard drive is ME.
 Who is going to delete the entire Windows directory? Me?? Well, as
 root I can do that anyway! So as a general statement,  You are much
 better off only sharing directories on the drive  applies only in some
 small LAN situations. It most likely does not apply to home situations
 where one or two mature, responsible, computer-literate adults share
 computers on a network.

 Anyway, SOHO and home computers should be backed up regularly,
 regardless of what the networking situation is. Could you stand to lose
 it? Do you want to start from scratch? If the answer is no, you must
 have a backup strategy and DO IT. It is a lot easier to keep the thing
 backed up than to fool with permissions, shares, and passwords day in
 and day out--again, in the two-user situation.

  You incorrectly state that with TCP / IP file and printer sharing,

 your hard drive can be viewed by the outside world. 

 Are you sure that's incorrect? I was under the impression that if you
 had file sharing enabled under TCP/IP and had a cable modem, you were
 essentially on a LAN with everyone else on your cable line. It would
 seem that if they could access your machine, they could indeed share
 files with it. I am obviously no expert on networking, especially TCP/IP
 networking. The only LAN networking I have experience with is NetBEUI on
 a small two- or three-computer network, entirely self-contained in a
 home. I use TCP/IP only for Dial-Up Networking and it is not bound to
 any components and NetBios is not enabled. While this may seem to be a
 joke network to some Linuxies, it is exactly what we want and works
 perfectly for us. I dare say this is what a large number of two-computer
 households want in a network. We appreciate the value of heavy-duty
 Linux networking where it is needed, but in our situation it is overkill
 many times over.

  There are problems with NetBEUI, especially so for larger networks,

 but also applicable for smaller networks in that it creates a lot of
 network traffic. 

 NetBEUI was never intended for large networks. In fact, I think there is
 a rather small limit on the number of computers that can be connected
 over NetBEUI. It is also peer-to-peer and cannot be anything else. It is
 not appropriate for business networks of more than a few computers, but
 is excellent for a very small home network because it is very easy to
 set up and does not communicate with the outside world. Now tell me how
 a network with two computers is going to create a lot of network
 traffic.g The *only* traffic on it is when I'm transferring files
 from one machine to the other or sending data to a printer connected to
 the other computer. That's it!! Never had a collision, never could have
 a collision. There 

[newbie] What can I get rid of in '/var' ?

2001-07-08 Per discussione Charles Darcy

Hi,

My system (LM8.0) broke down a few weeks ago, with the X server
complaining that it couldn't open the default font 'fixed'. A re-install
fixed the problem, but I've just re-experienced the same trouble.

In despair, I was about to re-install again, when I recalled that
the root ('/') partition on my hard drive was suspiciously close to
full. When I checked, sure enough, the partition was completely full,
and after I moved some files to a different partition to make a little
free space, I re-booted and the X server started normally. No more
problem.

When I checked the '/' partition, I found the disk hogs to be the
log's in '/var/log'. So, I guess my questions are:

- Which log files can be safely deleted ?
- Is it normal for these logs to grow so large, so quickly ?
- Are there any other system files which may need periodic
purging ?


thanks,

Charlie.





Re: [newbie] Use of Linux

2001-07-08 Per discussione Randy Kramer

Judy,

Judith Miner wrote:
 I sense a big split among Linux users (I hate terms like Linux
 communityg) between those who want the OS to become friendly enough
 to lure disgruntled SOHO/home users from Windows and those who want
 prospective users to do it their way or the highway. The reality is
 that Linux will never penetrate the SOHO/home market unless it bgecomes
 easier to manage and more accommodating to the needs and preferences of
 non-technical users. There is no reason a powerful OS can't have a
 friendly face.

It doesn't seem like you need any encouragement, but just in case you
do, I think you're doing good!

Randy Kramer




[newbie] share files between windows Linux

2001-07-08 Per discussione Tuan Duc Tran



Can anyone please 
tell me how can I setup Linux computer(as client) to browse to windows 
computer (as server or peer-to-peer). Can we share files between 2 linux 
computers? If so, how do we set up? I have no problem to access Linux computer 
from windows (via Samba)
Thank 
you.
Tuan


Re: [newbie] Ghost - ing a Linux partition?

2001-07-08 Per discussione Brandon Caudle

Yes This can be done. Infact at school I installed windows 2000 and Suse 7.1 one one machine configured the machine the way i wanted it and used a boot disk to upload the image to our novell server. ALL THE MACHINES HAVE TO BE THE SAME! lol i hope everone new that
Brandon Caudle

From: Scott Newlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [newbie] Ghost - ing a Linux partition? 
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 11:56:09 -0400 
 
Can this be done? I mean can an image be made of a linux partition that will 
work later. I have Ghost 6.5. 
 
Scott 
 
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com



Re: [newbie] Use of Linux

2001-07-08 Per discussione Jeferson Lopes Zacco

Judith,

I want to present you the title of the most active newbie in the list. As a
matter of fact, I'm unsubcribing because I can't stand hundreds of msgs in
my poor 56k conn, half of them yours. (This is a half-joke: I'm really
unsubscribing, but not due to your msgs.)
As a matter of fact, your attitude is one that should be followed by
other Linux users, newbies and experts alike: not only do you discuss your
own problems, but you also answer other's newbies doubts - when you know
how- and raise interesting questions such as the the future Linux
development as an alternative to Window$.
While I agree mostly with everything you and tazmun wrote, I think two
questions are crucial: attitude and standatization (is that spelled right?
Forgive my English)

Attitude- the attitude of seasoned Linux users towards newbies.
Unfortunately, most either have the RTFM approach- and most newbies doesn't
know WHERE to get the manuals, let alone read them. This attitude reflects
in the way Linux upgrades are planned and released, and even in the way some
people with good hearts answer:

[newbie] I just installed mandrake 8 and I want to install Acrobat
Reader so I can view the pdf help files. What should I do?
[expert] dld the rpm and as root rpm-i it or taz -zxfv the tar.gz then
./INSTALL

I'm sure someone who just came from Windows, and had not the chance to
read anything about Linux beforehand will think that that expert is indeed
a hacker trying to get some virus in to his computer. A typical Window$ user
will know nothing about shells, command line, man pages, info, root,
tarballs or rpms. And altough there are lots of documentation freely
available on the internet, it's just way too difficult to a newbie to know
WHAT and WHERE to read FIRST.

 Second is Standartization. The real difficultie for newbie linuxers is
NOT the command line. Anyone who can type and read can use a comand line.It
may be awkward and ugly, but it is usable. The difficultie is the lack of
standartization about configuring a linux system. In which directory the
configuration files goes? In which format they are written? What do they do?
When this app crashes, where can I see the error log/ restore old settings?
None of this are standart across the different components of a Linux system,
and they differ even more across different distros. It is just painful for a
newbie to memorize which file should be a script (in which shell?), a
function, a plain text file (in what format?), where it is and what it does.
I understand that many of these are features actually buried deep within
Linux structure, and they provide a good part of the Linux power and
safeness. But is also what keeps Linux from getting to the masses. This is
specially true for the GUIs or WMs . They're quite difficult to configure
for the average user- look at that guy who can't kill the eyes applet in
KDE. Gnome is still buggy. Mine has stopped logging out for no apparent
reason.Suppose I din'nt know about CTRL-ALT-BKSP?

So that is my call to Linux developers which seek to make Linux a viable
alternative to Window$. Such as Mandrake, KDE and Gnome developers. It's not
about changing Linux so that it's ease to use. It's about providing a LAYER
of ease of use for newbies, a layer where configuration is easy and standart
across ALL linux components - the shell, the path, permissions, security,
windows managers, mounting devices, networking, applications, X Window, ALL.
It shouldn't be a graphical gadget configuring tool: if the configuration is
truly standart, anyone can write a tool that will read and write the
necessary file(s). Advanced users could just ignore this layer. This is the
true reason window$ is popular: you don't have to have a precise knowledge
of the system workings to use it. If Linux can manage this without taking
away its power and features, then, and only then it will be a real
competitor to Microshaft. Probably then it will sue Linux by being
anti-american and anti-capitalist (well I'm not american anyway, and noone
ever asked me if I wanted to be capitalist) or will hire Linus,Alan Cox and
the other Linux developers for a billion dollars a day. But that's another
story...

That said, I would thank all the people who take the time to answer
newbies questions in this and any other places. Tux owns much to you
all.:-^)

--Jeferson L. Zacco aka Wooky
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux registered user #221896
-
Computers are used to solve problems that wouldn't if computers weren't
invented in the first place.





Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft

2001-07-08 Per discussione Jeferson Lopes Zacco


-Mensagem Original-
De: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: Judith Miner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enviada em: domingo, 8 de julho de 2001 04:27
Assunto: Re: [newbie] Internet Security


 And despite the fact that I enjoy your posts, this is my last one to you
and
 note it is on-list.  It occurs to me that if you are a Microsoft shill, or
 executive, that you could be a lot more productive to your company by
wasting
 my time than you could be by being negative on the newbie list.
 Civileme


Interesting ... I had just written an e-mail congratulating Judith on her
posts. After reading yours, tough, I must admit they do make some
sense...and I haven't seen a reply of hers to your post. I would give a most
outraged reply if I were mistaken with a Microshaft plant. And it looks
weird to me that she doesn't know how to get the cedille, yet she knows so
much about other things. I'm still not convinced she is a plant, tough. Time
will tell.

On the other hand, I guess that her posts didn't manage to scare anyone, if
that was her intention. That linux needs to get easier to configure if it
wants to atract Window$ users is a fact. Mandrake has gone a long way
towards it by making the installation process easy- it is, in fact much
easier and quicker than window$. But there is still work to be done, as I
pointed in my last post. Will it be done? It depends on the community
attitude towards new users, and their ability to handle micoshaft attacks,
which will increase from now on. And it seems that the attacks can be very
violent and unexpected indeed...

--Jeferson L. Zacco aka Wooky
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux registered user #221896
-
Computers are used to solve problems that wouldn't exist if computers
weren't
invented in the first place.






Re: [newbie] What can I get rid of in '/var' ?

2001-07-08 Per discussione Michael D. Viron

Charles,

Do you have logrotate installed?  If so, there should be *.[1-9] (or
possibly .gz) log files, which can be deleted.  Other files can be replaced
with 0 byte files by turning off the service in question, running rm -f
logname, and then touch logname.

You can also check /var/spool/mail and see if there is anything in there --
if you don't regularly check your root e-mail account (or have it forwarded
to another account), that e-mail file can grow quite large.

Another place to check is /tmp which is where all kinds of temporary
files get dumped.

Finally check ~/.netscape/cache -- which is where all the stuff from your
net browsing (if you are using netscape), gets dumped.  If you surf the
Internet (and yes that is a capital I--there is a difference between an
internet, and the Internet), there could be quite a bit in there.  If you
do actually find anything in there, or would like a script to clean that
directory out on a regular basis, let me know, and I'll send it to you.

This of course, presupposes that you have one large partition mounted as /,
rather than individual partitions mounted as /var, /tmp, and /home.

--
Michael Viron
Registered Linux User #81978
Senior Systems  Administration Consultant
Web Spinners, University of West Florida

At 01:46 AM 07/09/2001 +1000, Charles Darcy wrote:
Hi,

My system (LM8.0) broke down a few weeks ago, with the X server
complaining that it couldn't open the default font 'fixed'. A re-install
fixed the problem, but I've just re-experienced the same trouble.

In despair, I was about to re-install again, when I recalled that
the root ('/') partition on my hard drive was suspiciously close to
full. When I checked, sure enough, the partition was completely full,
and after I moved some files to a different partition to make a little
free space, I re-booted and the X server started normally. No more
problem.

When I checked the '/' partition, I found the disk hogs to be the
log's in '/var/log'. So, I guess my questions are:

- Which log files can be safely deleted ?
- Is it normal for these logs to grow so large, so quickly ?
- Are there any other system files which may need periodic
purging ?


thanks,

Charlie.






Re: [newbie] share files between windows Linux

2001-07-08 Per discussione Michael D. Viron

Tuan,

Programs which are called smbclient and smbmount come to mind, as well as
LinNeighborhood, and Gnomba...

As for linux -- linux, yes you can do file sharing.  Read the nfs howto
from linuxdoc.org, making sure that if you've got a firewall, you've
blocked access to the nfs and portmap ports, or if you don't have a
firewall, make sure to restrict access to only those PCs on your local
network.

Michael

--
Michael Viron
Registered Linux User #81978
Senior Systems  Administration Consultant
Web Spinners, University of West Florida
 
At 09:16 AM 07/08/2001 -0700, Tuan Duc Tran wrote: 

Can anyone please  tell me how can I setup Linux computer (as client) to
browse to windows  computer (as server or peer-to-peer). Can we share files
between 2 linux  computers? If so, how do we set up? I have no problem to
access Linux computer  from windows (via Samba) Thank  you. Tuan 







RE: [newbie] Local network browsing not working

2001-07-08 Per discussione Gabriel Arcos

try runnig lisa server: lisa -K

some times I get a reading soket error but sometimes work properly, someone
have idea about that error?

- Original Message -
From: etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ed Kasky [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Local network browsing not working


 I could be barking up the wrong tree,,, but have you mounted those
networked
 shares ?

 On Saturday 07 July 2001 17:38, Ed Kasky wrote:
  Trying to browse network using Konqueror returns the following error:
 
  Could not connect to host localhost
 
  I am running MD 8 and Samba 2.0.10.  Other windows machines can see and
  connect to this one but it can't see the other machines on the network
  through Konqueror.
 
  I don't suspect a hardware problem as this machine can also access the
  internet no problem.
 
  I looked at /etc/hosts and it has one entry:
  127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
 
  I can also query other hosts on the network using smbclient from the
  command line
 
  Any ideas are appreciated.
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  Ed






RE: [newbie] Rage 128 and Mandrake 8

2001-07-08 Per discussione Philip Mayer


Hello Dennis, Eric and the list,

What color depth are you running that card at. I would try it at very low 
settings and gradually bring it up. I can not run the ATI card I have at 
better than 65k for color at the 1024x768 resolution. Might help?

I tested a few things now and I think I found the source of the problem. 
I was able to run 640x480 in any color resolution, but no
higher than that. I THINK this is due to the fact that I have a Rage Fury AGP
with a TV OUT and somehow the driver for Linux activated that TV OUT. Obviously,
you can't go higher than 640x480 for normal TV (works under Windows with a higher
resolution, but the win driver emulates a larger screen there I guess).

So, are there any tools for setting the correct mode of the Rage? Or isn't this
the problem at all ?

Thanks for you help!!

phil





Re: [newbie] Use of Linux

2001-07-08 Per discussione etharp

the real question (as I see it) is something I was taught earlier in life. 
when a person speaks, they have to speak to the audience it does no good to 
explain brain surgery in highly medical and technical terms to kindergarten 
classes that are visiting the hospital on a field trip. in the same vein (but 
not QUITE as drastic) it does no good to write a different version of windows 
that does the same things. the people whom (at this time anyway) want to buy 
a boxed set of linux are NOT first time computer users. they buy a complete 
computer (usually winders loaded) from a name brand manufacturer (Dell, 
Compaq, IBM, Gateway, etc... and from then on they feel like what winders 
does is what a computer ought to do. The people to whom (I believe) 
Mandrake is attempting to reach at this point are people whom have learned 
enough to hope there is a different way to work and think about computers. 
hoping the comprises made by some un-named and profit motivated executive 
that short change me in what I want to do can be changed. MOST computers are 
still a business tool world wide.
I would propose the best way for Mandrake to grow market share for Linux 
would be assiting OEMs that want to sell a MANDRAKE whitebox computer system. 
(in fact i believe i will offer a Mandrake loaded whitebox computer system  
for  the low low price of $1000.00 US to anyone whom asks (price does not 
include shipping)GRIN



On Sunday 08 July 2001 12:01, Jeferson Lopes Zacco wrote:
 Judith,

 I want to present you the title of the most active newbie in the list. As a
 matter of fact, I'm unsubcribing because I can't stand hundreds of msgs in
 my poor 56k conn, half of them yours. (This is a half-joke: I'm really
 unsubscribing, but not due to your msgs.)
 As a matter of fact, your attitude is one that should be followed by
 other Linux users, newbies and experts alike: not only do you discuss your
 own problems, but you also answer other's newbies doubts - when you know
 how- and raise interesting questions such as the the future Linux
 development as an alternative to Window$.
 While I agree mostly with everything you and tazmun wrote, I think two
 questions are crucial: attitude and standatization (is that spelled right?
 Forgive my English)

 Attitude- the attitude of seasoned Linux users towards newbies.
 Unfortunately, most either have the RTFM approach- and most newbies doesn't
 know WHERE to get the manuals, let alone read them. This attitude reflects
 in the way Linux upgrades are planned and released, and even in the way
 some people with good hearts answer:

 [newbie] I just installed mandrake 8 and I want to install Acrobat
 Reader so I can view the pdf help files. What should I do?
 [expert] dld the rpm and as root rpm-i it or taz -zxfv the tar.gz then
 ./INSTALL

 I'm sure someone who just came from Windows, and had not the chance to
 read anything about Linux beforehand will think that that expert is
 indeed a hacker trying to get some virus in to his computer. A typical
 Window$ user will know nothing about shells, command line, man pages, info,
 root, tarballs or rpms. And altough there are lots of documentation freely
 available on the internet, it's just way too difficult to a newbie to know
 WHAT and WHERE to read FIRST.

  Second is Standartization. The real difficultie for newbie linuxers is
 NOT the command line. Anyone who can type and read can use a comand line.It
 may be awkward and ugly, but it is usable. The difficultie is the lack of
 standartization about configuring a linux system. In which directory the
 configuration files goes? In which format they are written? What do they
 do? When this app crashes, where can I see the error log/ restore old
 settings? None of this are standart across the different components of a
 Linux system, and they differ even more across different distros. It is
 just painful for a newbie to memorize which file should be a script (in
 which shell?), a function, a plain text file (in what format?), where it is
 and what it does. I understand that many of these are features actually
 buried deep within Linux structure, and they provide a good part of the
 Linux power and safeness. But is also what keeps Linux from getting to the
 masses. This is specially true for the GUIs or WMs . They're quite
 difficult to configure for the average user- look at that guy who can't
 kill the eyes applet in KDE. Gnome is still buggy. Mine has stopped logging
 out for no apparent reason.Suppose I din'nt know about CTRL-ALT-BKSP?

 So that is my call to Linux developers which seek to make Linux a
 viable alternative to Window$. Such as Mandrake, KDE and Gnome developers.
 It's not about changing Linux so that it's ease to use. It's about
 providing a LAYER of ease of use for newbies, a layer where configuration
 is easy and standart across ALL linux components - the shell, the path,
 permissions, security, windows managers, mounting devices, networking,
 

Re: [newbie] Local network browsing not working

2001-07-08 Per discussione etharp

is there a GUI to config lisa?

On Sunday 08 July 2001 13:59, Gabriel Arcos wrote:
 try runnig lisa server: lisa -K

 some times I get a reading soket error but sometimes work properly, someone
 have idea about that error?

 - Original Message -
 From: etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Ed Kasky [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 1:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Local network browsing not working

  I could be barking up the wrong tree,,, but have you mounted those

 networked

  shares ?
 
  On Saturday 07 July 2001 17:38, Ed Kasky wrote:
   Trying to browse network using Konqueror returns the following error:
  
   Could not connect to host localhost
  
   I am running MD 8 and Samba 2.0.10.  Other windows machines can see and
   connect to this one but it can't see the other machines on the network
   through Konqueror.
  
   I don't suspect a hardware problem as this machine can also access the
   internet no problem.
  
   I looked at /etc/hosts and it has one entry:
   127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
  
   I can also query other hosts on the network using smbclient from the
   command line
  
   Any ideas are appreciated.
  
   Thanks in advance.
  
   Ed




Re: [newbie] Run My KMail While Logged Under Root?

2001-07-08 Per discussione etharp

I would like to add that I find one of the easist way to move between root 
tasks and a user Xsession is; (Crtrl+alt+f1[or any other f1 to f6 key] all at 
the same time) and login the text console as root. do what i need and then 
Crtrl+alt+f7 to get back into my Xsession as a user.

On Sunday 08 July 2001 19:08, Lars 'Darmok' Heiermann wrote:
 On 08 Jul 2001 07:52:33 -0700, Curtis Matthiesen wrote:
  Hi there,
 
  I was wondering if there is a way that I can run my Kmail account while
  I'm logged under as Root.
 
  For example if there is a switch of some sort that'll allow me to do
  this, so that way if I am logged under Root I don't have to
  Ctrl + Alt + Backspace and relogon just to get to my email.

 Yes there are ways to do that.
 For example this:
 open a xterm / eterm / whatever
 then type in

 xhost +localhost

 (to let applications connect to the x server that other users start on
 your machine)
 then

 su - user

 to switch to the account 'user' (you should use your username here)
 then

 declare -x DISPLAY=localhost:0.0

 to set the display the started X applications should connect to

 and then

 kmail

 to start your kmail.

 But I see no reason to run X as root, better would be to login as normal
 user and if you need to do things as root use

 su -

 to switch to root.

 HTH

 Lars Heiermann




Re: [newbie] Use of Linux

2001-07-08 Per discussione Michael D. Viron

At 06:15 PM 07/07/2001 -0400, Judith Miner wrote:
Thank you, Michael, both for your information and for demonstrating so
clearly my contention that Linux partisans in general *cannot* see
issues from the perspective of the SOHO/home user.g 
Actually, this was my view after having been a computer support specialist
(which included significant amounts of administration), not necessarily as
a Linux partisan.  And yes, I can see issues from the perspective of
SOHO/home users--it was not made clear that you were talking about a 2-3
computer home lan.

You said:
 I administered a small lan with 35 workstations 

Ahem. 35 workstations is not really a small LAN. 
In the corporate / education worlds, 35 workstations *is* a small lan--as
for personal lans, you're right--they don't typically exceed 3 or 4 PCs.

Shares are irrelevant in this situation. 
Actually, shares are not irrelevant, even in your case--after all, if you
are copying files from one PC to another, or using a printer connected to
another PC, that is called sharing, with individual printers / drives
being called shares.

So are permissions. 
Permissions are not irrelevant--for example, under windows NT / 2000, you
can't install programs or make many changes to system properties unless you
are either logged in as an Administrator or are a user in the
Administrator group.  Nor are they totally irrelevant on a linux
workstation (or server for that matter), since unless you have root somehow
(or use urpmi, sudo, or other utilities that give a normal user some subset
of root privileges), you can't install / upgrade packages, edit
configuration files, see all processes, and so forth.  Even if you aren't
aware of it, each process on a linux machine has an idea concerning what
permissions it has--after all, if something is running as the nobody
user, it doesn't have access to files owned by root and not readable /
writeable / executable by others.

And so is
this kind of business:
With linux, there is more control over who can actually see the
shares--you have options to limit by IP (such that only specific
computers on the network can even see the shares), by users (such that
only specific users on the linux server can see the shares), by
permission (such that only certain users or groups of users can edit the
files, and other users or groups have read only privilege), or by a
combination of the above (such that only certain users from certain
computers can see the shares). 

Actually, this was stated more along the lines that these are things that
can be (and should be) configured if you wanted to share files from your
linux laptop to your windows PCs via samba, such that only PCs on your
home lan would be able to browse the shares.
snip
These are all good points unless the one sharing the hard drive is ME.
Who is going to delete the entire Windows directory? Me?? Well, as
root I can do that anyway! So as a general statement,  You are much
better off only sharing directories on the drive  applies only in some
small LAN situations. It most likely does not apply to home situations
where one or two mature, responsible, computer-literate adults share
computers on a network.
Actually, you'll find out that if you don't have NetBEUI or whatever other
protocol you are using for your shares blocked at your firewall (which I
gather from previous posts that you are trying to get configured), you
leave yourself open to attacks that were discovered years ago.

It is a lot easier to keep the thing
backed up than to fool with permissions, shares, and passwords day in
and day out--again, in the two-user situation.
You're already fooling with shares and permissions, since you are sharing
your hard drives and printers between the 2 computers or so that are in
your network.  Granted of course, that your permissions seem to be wide
open, such that either user (yourself or your husband) can make whatever
modifications they want, but that doesn't mean that they are not
there--this would be equivalent to making a file mode 777 (read / write /
execute by everyone on a linux system)--it doesn't mean that permissions
aren't there, they are just wide open to allow execution, reading, and
writing to a file by anyone.

 You incorrectly state that with TCP / IP file and printer sharing,
your hard drive can be viewed by the outside world. 

Are you sure that's incorrect? 
Yes, I am sure.  With TCP / IP file and printer sharing (if you have your
network locked down), your shares aren't accessible by anyone else. (Unless
of course you have a windows 9x share that has no password and don't have a
firewall in place--in that case, you've left yourself open regardless of
whether or not the sharing is done over TCP / IP or NetBEUI.)
snip
NetBEUI was never intended for large networks. In fact, I think there is
a rather small limit on the number of computers that can be connected
over NetBEUI. 
Actually, this isn't the case -- I've seen networks in the hundreds of
computers that have 

[newbie] KDE

2001-07-08 Per discussione Talonholco

Dear Civilme:

Thanks a million for the advice, which has proven quite helpful on Netscape. As for 
the sound on KDE, it's a common problem evidently. It's too difficult to remove alsa, 
because the program manager then wants to remove all of the dependencies that include 
everything and the kitchen sink. I tried to disable it, but that didn't seem to work 
either. Anyway, it's no big deal...I can wait the 30 seconds for the sound to start on 
KDE--I am only missing the start-up sound!

Another troubling problem is the use of the RPM installer. I tried it first by 
downloading the news-reader PAN v0.9.7 in the i386.rpm format. It loaded perfectly and 
instantly appeared on my menu thereafter. But, since then, I downloaded the most 
recent version of Mozilla and Galeon and neither of these will install using RPM. 
Oddly enough, if I go directly to the file and click on it, it invokes the RPM 
installer, which then states that there is an error installing the packages. But, if I 
let the program manager find the file, it lists it as installable, allows an install 
and states that it was successfully completed, but then you never find it anywhere.

I find this to be somewhat bizarre and I think this is one area where Windows 
prevails...it seems to be much easier to install downloaded zipped software in windows 
than on Linux. I had zero problems downloading Mozilla for windows for example and it 
instantly installed and operates.

Any more advice for this poor soul???

Thanks again...

Mike

PS: You seem to be working overtime with all of these posts! Do you ever get a break?


In a message dated Sat, 7 Jul 2001  6:22:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, civileme 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Saturday 07 July 2001 19:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Group...

 I installed and have been using LM 8.0 for about a month and a half now. I
 know I read somewhere about why Netscape opens with colorless buttons, but
 I can't remember where it was that I saw that. Anyway, how is that
 corrected so that the toolbars look real?

set 16 or 32 bit color depth.  netscape goes monochrome at 24.

 Also, I seem to have more success with KDE than Gnome, but for some odd
 reason, KDE starts without sound for about one or two minutes before I
 start hearing it. This is odd, because in the beginning it started with its
 own start-up sound. Now, I hear nothing for the first minute or two...why
 is that?


You have both alsa and oss sound systems installed--remove one of them

If it is only like 30 seconds you are waiting for a timeout on /dev/dsp

 Funny thing about Linux...it looks great and feels so good to escape the
 clutches of those greedy commercial codeslingers, but it's the little
 things that combine to frustrate the user...like intermittent sound loss
 and colorless buttons...

 Anyway...any ideas???

 Mike

Civileme
 





[newbie] Printer problem

2001-07-08 Per discussione Gonzalix le Druide

Hello!

I have an installation problem with my Canon BJC-240. I have LM 7.2 on a
Pentium II MMX 350.

The machine says that CUPS has conflicts with printpro-4.1.2-1 But if
I try to uninstall the printpro archive I don't found it...

I need help, please.

If you needs some more specs, please let me know.

Thanks in advance

G. Hidalgo
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]








Re: [newbie] Change package architecture?

2001-07-08 Per discussione Jay DeKing

I would say the best path to take would be to get the source rather than the 
rpm, and compile it yourself. The process is pretty staightforward if you 
accept the default settings, and there is usually a README file  - although 
the process usually consists of:

./configure
make
make install

and you're done. 

Jay


On Sunday 08 July 2001 06:49, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
 All first generation Pentiums (including their MMX variants) are i586. Any
 CPU built on Pentium Pro (or PPro) technology is an i686. This includes the
 Pentium II, Celeron and Pentium III. The Pentium IV is a different
 architecture again, and probably would be classified as an i786.

 Since i686 processors have capabilities beyond those of their i586
 predecessors, an i686-optimised binary may not run well on an i586, if at
 all. It may be worth giving it a try, but dont expect too much,
 particularly on a non-Intel chip.

 On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 09:11, etharp wrote:
  I would bet it will run, but you might be better off to try and download
  the i586 version if you could. as i understand it (and i ain't no
  ex-spurt) the i686 starts around the time mmx extensions started, but
  almost any socket 7 pentium (as opposed to socket 5) or faster
  would/should be able to run i686 rpms. would also, anytime asking for
  help (I believe) to include as much information as might be applicable.
  in otherwords please explain further, the speed of CPU and motherboard,
  memory, just what RPM you want to install, what other questions might be
  asked. G
 
  On Saturday 07 July 2001 17:16, Jon Doe wrote:
   On Saturday 07 July 2001 05:05 pm, you wrote:
might help to know if this i586 is a pentium 90 or cyrix 266 or
celeron 466.?
   
On Saturday 07 July 2001 16:51, Jon Doe wrote:
 I have an  i686.rpm that I want to install on my i586. Is this
 possible? If so how?
  
   AMD K6. Is that what you were looking for?

-- 
Support your local law enforcement agency - 
 this week commit the crime of your choice!




Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft

2001-07-08 Per discussione Romanator

Jeferson Lopes Zacco wrote:
 
 -Mensagem Original-
 De: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Para: Judith Miner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Enviada em: domingo, 8 de julho de 2001 04:27
 Assunto: Re: [newbie] Internet Security
 
 
  And despite the fact that I enjoy your posts, this is my last one to you
 and
  note it is on-list.  It occurs to me that if you are a Microsoft shill, or
  executive, that you could be a lot more productive to your company by
 wasting
  my time than you could be by being negative on the newbie list.
  Civileme
 
 
 Interesting ... I had just written an e-mail congratulating Judith on her
 posts. After reading yours, tough, I must admit they do make some
 sense...and I haven't seen a reply of hers to your post. I would give a most
 outraged reply if I were mistaken with a Microshaft plant. And it looks
 weird to me that she doesn't know how to get the cedille, yet she knows so
 much about other things. I'm still not convinced she is a plant, tough. Time
 will tell.
 
 On the other hand, I guess that her posts didn't manage to scare anyone, if
 that was her intention. That linux needs to get easier to configure if it
 wants to atract Window$ users is a fact. Mandrake has gone a long way
 towards it by making the installation process easy- it is, in fact much
 easier and quicker than window$. But there is still work to be done, as I
 pointed in my last post. Will it be done? It depends on the community
 attitude towards new users, and their ability to handle micoshaft attacks,
 which will increase from now on. And it seems that the attacks can be very
 violent and unexpected indeed...
 
 --Jeferson L. Zacco aka Wooky
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Linux registered user #221896
 -
 Computers are used to solve problems that wouldn't exist if computers
 weren't
 invented in the first place.


I have been following Judith Miner's email posts since 1996 through the
her Wordstar postings on another news group. It appears that she is not
new to the Microsoft Windows OS. This goes back as far as Windows 3.11
and DOS.
I don't know if she is really who she says she is... but she has been
pi**ssing off at lot of people over the years. She is well known through
other newsgroups. My comments are not because I think I'm better than
she is nor am I a Linux elitist or guru. 
However, almost every post on our news group is a lecture on how Linux
has not been geared to the normal person who doesn't understand command
lines. Well, I say, rather than being spoon fed - as you did with
Windows, try the GUI. If you do not understand the command lines, read a
good book on Linux(remember books?). If there's something you don't like
in the Linux OS, change it.  
  
I read that you have a lot experience with the Windows OS. Are you
telling us that you learned this all without reading a single
Windows or DOS book? This is BS.
On one hand, you show a lot of knowledge about TCP/IP but turn around
and talk through both sides of your mouth about no knowledge on fire
walling etc. etc. etc. Poor me, I am a normal Windows user wanting to be
a normal Linux User. 

Rather than spending time typing up many emails, why don't you provide a
wish list to Mandrakesoft for them to review. Or, try another flavor
of Linux such as Caldera? I'm sure a lot of your ideas are already in
the works, and will be addressed in their future releases. 

Rather than checking a web page that doesn't necessarily have all of the
answers, start reading a book about Linux. I am just a normal user of
Linux, who happens to have Windows NT4 installed on another partition
for other softwares that will NOT run on Linux. 

Either way, we encourage any one's constructive input. 


Roman
Registered Linux User #179293
su is not the root of your problem
but the start of a new journey




Re: [newbie] System-wide environment variables?

2001-07-08 Per discussione Peter Ruskin

On Sunday 08 July 2001 20:46, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
 Does anybody know how to get environment variables (like export...)
 working system-wide, that is, on the command line (BASH for me), in the
 log screens (e.g. on Ctrl-Alt-F12), and in X?

 I prefer to have X automatically load at startup (since it frees-up a
 console), but this means that I cannot take advantage of BASH's
 environment variables (configurable in ~/.bashrc and /etc/bashrc). I
 know I can load apps from a terminal, but I'd prefer to have something
 available throughout all of my X environment (for panel applets, etc.).
 I have placed my lines in /etc/X11/Xsession, but this doesn't appear to
 work anymore since I installed KDE 2.2 beta 1 (I use GNOME, though).

 Environment variables don't seem to work on the log screens (e.g. when
 you press Ctrl-Alt-F12) or for system processes (daemons, etc.), either.
 My system clock is set to UTC (i.e. Greenwich Mean TIme), and I use
 environment variables to enter my time zone settings so that the
 displayed time is correct (that way I can set my system time from an NTP
 server with ntpdate). It works fine in BASH, and as I mentioned above it
 used to work in X. Cron is always ten hours behind my local time (since
 I'm UTC +10h), and it can become annoying when it begins maintenence
 tasks during the day when I'm using the computer.

 Alternatively, is there a better solution to my setup?

 Any help would be much appreciated.

/etc/profile is your friend
-- 
 Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales.
Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ )
Linux Mandrake release 8.0 (Traktopel) for i586
 Linux 2.4.3-20mdk-win4lin-pnr,  KDE: 2.1.2,  Qt: 2.3.1
   Uptime 2 hours 19 minutes




Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft OT

2001-07-08 Per discussione Dennis Myers

On Sunday 08 July 2001 20:17, you wrote:
 On Sunday 08 July 2001 05:43 pm, Romanator wrote:
  Tom Brinkman wrote:

  *_In spite of_* an

   increasing ignorance and/or preference of Lusers to add closed
   source/binary only apps and (win)hardware into the mix. (yeah, I'm
   diggin at y'all nVidia folks again ;)
 
  Hey Tom,
 
  I have an NVIDIA card and works great. What can I say, it came with
  the computer.

Yeah, an I'm on the crux of gettin a GeForce too.  At least I'm
 aware of the repercussions tho.  Like I said, life's about choices ;
 It's a damn shame that Billy Goat and Dell, et al, put us in this
 position. Still, if the GeForce creates problems, they're User induced.
 I'll be the responsible culprit.

In the meantime, this ol' (open source) pci Voodoo3 runs like heck
 on a supposedly buggy IDE-VIA kt133a chipset with a Tbird at 1.5+gig :)
 At least with the V3 oc'd. FS2000 fps in Winblows (which is all I use
 it for anymore) runs with all display options maxed, thunder lighting
 and rain, at 800 feet AGL over very dense scenery with 50+ fps :)
 Windoze is for kids, an I'm just a big kid ;~

   ... out of the clear blue western sky comes Sky King!!  :))

   FlightGear's not quite ready for prime time. If you know who Sky and
 Penny are, ever saw the TV show, then ignore my message.  Why worry
 'bout anything anymore?   Be happy, just never use any M$ products to
 connect to the Net, no matter how well you believe they can be secured,
 or how old you are.   YMMV ;))
OOh!  Sky King, I had a crush on Penny.  Always wanted to fly after that 
show.  Dated aren't we.   
-- 
Dennis M. registered linus user #180842




[newbie] checking HTML

2001-07-08 Per discussione Dennis Myers

Hey y'all, just checking to see if I'm sending HTML.  In mail appearance 
there is a box that says prefer plain text to html and sometimes it seems 
that it gets checked for no apparent reason, although I suspect it is because 
I like the inhanced Kmail look and select that. I just don't know if I am 
sending the bad stuff. Although if I was I am sure one of you would let me 
know. Anyway, this is just a long winded test.




Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft

2001-07-08 Per discussione Romanator

Tom Brinkman wrote:
 
 On Sunday 08 July 2001 05:43 pm, Romanator wrote:
  Tom Brinkman wrote:
  *_In spite of_* an
   increasing ignorance and/or preference of Lusers to add closed
   source/binary only apps and (win)hardware into the mix. (yeah, I'm
   diggin at y'all nVidia folks again ;)
 
  Hey Tom,
 
  I have an NVIDIA card and works great. What can I say, it came with
  the computer.
 
Yeah, an I'm on the crux of gettin a GeForce too.  At least I'm
 aware of the repercussions tho.  Like I said, life's about choices ;
 It's a damn shame that Billy Goat and Dell, et al, put us in this
 position. Still, if the GeForce creates problems, they're User induced.
 I'll be the responsible culprit.
 
In the meantime, this ol' (open source) pci Voodoo3 runs like heck
 on a supposedly buggy IDE-VIA kt133a chipset with a Tbird at 1.5+gig :)
 At least with the V3 oc'd. FS2000 fps in Winblows (which is all I use
 it for anymore) runs with all display options maxed, thunder lighting
 and rain, at 800 feet AGL over very dense scenery with 50+ fps :)
 Windoze is for kids, an I'm just a big kid ;~
 
   ... out of the clear blue western sky comes Sky King!!  :))
 
   FlightGear's not quite ready for prime time. If you know who Sky and
 Penny are, ever saw the TV show, then ignore my message.  Why worry
 'bout anything anymore?   Be happy, just never use any M$ products to
 connect to the Net, no matter how well you believe they can be secured,
 or how old you are.   YMMV ;))
 
 --
Tom Brinkman  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Galveston Bay

By the way, I reran my port scan and I passed with flying colors(I had
to reinstall using Reiser FS). I like it.
I remember Sky King, Sky and Penny. Boy, that brings back memories.
However, I've been trying to avoid M$ products. I can't believe how the
market has been saturated with junky hardware.

Roman
Registered Linux User #179293
su is not the root of your problem
but the start of a new journey




[newbie] telnet not installed?

2001-07-08 Per discussione Michael F. Aube

Hi Folks,

I just got Mandrake 8.0 installed on my laptop, but I can't seem to find
the telnet program.  Anyone have any ideas where it might be, or why it
wasn't installed?

Thanks in advance,

M!ke

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Re: [newbie] Local network browsing not working

2001-07-08 Per discussione Ed Kasky

I thought that it would read the information already broadcast.  

In previous installations I never had to run Lisa in order to be able to see 
shared drives.  I was under the impression that if a drive is shared either 
from windoze or from samba, you could see it using konqueror and then 
authenticate once you tried to attach.

My wondoze machines cna see and attach to the md box's shared folders but not 
visa versa

Ed
~~
On Sunday 08 July 2001 10:05 am, etharp wrote:
 I could be barking up the wrong tree,,, but have you mounted those
 networked shares ?

 On Saturday 07 July 2001 17:38, Ed Kasky wrote:
  Trying to browse network using Konqueror returns the following error:
 
  Could not connect to host localhost
 
  I am running MD 8 and Samba 2.0.10.  Other windows machines can see and
  connect to this one but it can't see the other machines on the network
  through Konqueror.
 
  I don't suspect a hardware problem as this machine can also access the
  internet no problem.
 
  I looked at /etc/hosts and it has one entry:
  127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain localhost
 
  I can also query other hosts on the network using smbclient from the
  command line
 
  Any ideas are appreciated.
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  Ed

-- 
Ed Kasky
Los Angeles, CA
~~~
If A+ B + C = Success if, A = Hard Work, B = Hard Play,
C = Keeping your mouth shut.  - Albert Einstein




[newbie] Something that actually woprks for once

2001-07-08 Per discussione Mandrake

s

isnt there anything applicationwise that actuially works?

kspread sucks because it cuts the proint in haslf at the end of th p[a pge

kghost sucks because it does the same thing.

Please name an appilcation that can *print corectly* without
cutting it off at the end and doing it in US Letter not some other stupid
format that uses only hanlf the papaer.

Thanks
-- 
Linux is cool




[newbie] mutli platform html editor

2001-07-08 Per discussione Kevin Fonner

Are there any decent web page editors that are compatable with bot linux and
windows.  What I mean is a program with binarys for both platforms.

Thanks
Kevin




[newbie] What is the best cd-ripper for Linux

2001-07-08 Per discussione Kevin Fonner

Just curious what your guys opinions on the best cd-ripper to use.

Thanks,
Kevin




Re: [newbie] What is the best cd-ripper for Linux

2001-07-08 Per discussione Dave Sherman

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Use grip to rip.

Use oggenc for encoding to Ogg-Vorbis file format (*.ogg). Ogg-Vorbis is 
free and open source, while mp3 is most definitely *not*. Plus, Ogg-Vorbis 
is better quality for approximately the same file size.

Dave

On Sunday 08 July 2001 22:21, thus spake Kevin Fonner:
 Just curious what your guys opinions on the best cd-ripper to use.

 Thanks,
 Kevin

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foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews
and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
(1 Cor 1:23-24)
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Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org

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[newbie] deleting contents of a file

2001-07-08 Per discussione Craig Westerman



Is there a 
linux command that will remove the contents of a file, but leave the file 
name?

Thanks

HW


[newbie] Archiving the Root account

2001-07-08 Per discussione Anguo


Oh! 
Thank you for this explanation: 
I must admit that I didn't get it either 

I think I'll archive this message in my Linux Advocating folder, ;-)

Anguo


 DISCLAIMER: this is not for kiddies!

 I have to say that I anticipated such a response after reading Franki's
 original message. Root, as it is used here, is Australian slang. I
 believe it originated from the (Australian) Gold Rush days when lonely
 miners would use potatoes (roots) as imitation female sexual organs (by
 boring a hole in them). Hence the Australian expression get a root.

 Man, are we far enough off-topic?!

 On Tue, 3 Jul 2001 13:24, Franki wrote:
  really?  you are jesting surely?
 
  root is another name for bonking or bumping uglies or for the
  scientifically minded intercourse
 
  what country could you be from that doesn't have 10,000 names for what is
  essentially the same thing?
 
 
  regards
 
  Frank
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Terry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, 2 July 2001 11:14 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [newbie] The Root account
 
 
  I'm going to be the one to admit, I don't get it.  Is root some sort of
  derogatory term where you are?  Either that, or I am wayyy out of
  the
  loop on things .. :-)
 
  Terry
 
  On Saturday 30 June 2001 16:20, you wrote:
   kinda funny,,
  
   My girlfriend saw me working on a linux server I had here, and she was
   watching when I logged in as root
  
   it took two hours to convince her that I wasn't a dirty bast@rd and
   that
 
  it
 
   was the standard all power account,,
  
   she is still looking at me strangely :-)
  
  
   rgds
  
   Frank





[newbie] Both rogue and imbecile?

2001-07-08 Per discussione Anguo


 But winblows crashes
 
 And don't forget this ridiculous plan they have for Windows XP to lock
 it to one particular computer. This one should have people switching
 to Linux in droves.

 Ah, yes! The ultimate in customer relations!! hehehe

 I prefer rogues to imbeciles, because they sometimes take a rest.
 -Alexandre Dumas (fils)


Speaking about Windows XP and customer relationship,
this sig couldn't be more appropriate:
Is it a case of Whimblows being both rogue and imbecile??
(And they never take a rest!)


Anguo













[newbie] Memory use

2001-07-08 Per discussione Anguo

¦b 2001 ¤C¤ë  1 ¬P´Á¤é 23:01¡Acivileme ¼g¹D:
 linux makes an effort to keep almost all memory in use all the time
 (figuring unused memory is wasted memory), so it often finds memory
 errors right away that windows would totally miss.
 Civileme

Oh!
You just replied a question I didn't ask!
:-)

I just bought a new box and insisted on having 256Mb RAM (against the advice 
of a friend who said 128Mb would be enough). 
After installing LM8.0, I noticed that most of the 256Mb were used, 
confirming that I made the right choice, but I also wondered why Linux would 
precisely use the amount of RAM I had. 

I was thinking to wait that memory comes cheaper to add two 512Mb bars to 
have a total of 1300Mb RAM. Would that make the system  faster, or would that 
only be a waste of money? 
(running on a AMD Duron 750Mhz, that I may upgrade to K7 1.4Mhz sometime next 
year)
I only run typical desktop single user applications (mail, internet...).



Anguo

P.S. : Even though this list is very busy, I do my best to read all the 
messages. I learn a lot this way. 
Thanks to everyone who ask questions (which are never stupid) and thanks to 
all those who take the time to reply... 













Re: [newbie] Something that actually woprks for once

2001-07-08 Per discussione s

Try StarOffice (free), or WordPerfect Office (not).
-s

On Sunday 08 July 2001 09:46 pm, you wrote:


 isnt there anything applicationwise that actuially works?

 kspread and

 kghost sucks 







Re: [newbie] Internet Security -J.Miner and Microsoft

2001-07-08 Per discussione Romanator

Tom Brinkman wrote:
 
 On Sunday 08 July 2001 11:40 am, Jeferson Lopes Zacco wrote:
  That linux needs to get easier to
  configure if it wants to atract Window$ users is a fact.
 
Most all 'computer' problems are/or, at least I've found it's
 best for me, should be approached as User, then Hardware, then (any)
 OS. Also, I'm not hearing anything about the fact that we use GNU/Linux
 in this thread. Linux is only the kernel, everything else is GNU
 contributed proccesses and apps written to run on it. It's obvious (at
 least to me ;) that distros like RH, SuSe, and specially Mandrake have
 made great strides in gathering together these apps/proccesses, and
 'user friendliness' configuration and coordination tools in just the
 past few years. *_In spite of_* an increasing ignorance and/or
 preference of Lusers to add closed source/binary only apps and
 (win)hardware into the mix. (yeah, I'm diggin at y'all nVidia folks
 again ;)
 
It's to the point where I believe Linux has far surpassed any M$
 offering in ease of installation and use by computer users on *real*
 computers. Those that insist on approaching their use of the computer
 problems as OS, then hardware, and lastly themselves will always have
 the hardest time ... _any OS_. In this I cite the use of non-(win)
 -hardware as the users fault.
 
   One very important exception to my above rants is security. Then if
 you're a M$ (OS, or applications for it) user, blame the OS first ;)
 Mainly because it's all closed, binary only ... and there's no viable
 way to secure and administer it. It's win-hard/software!
 
 So I pose the question... why the need for this seemingly absurd
 (to me anyhow) desire for Linux to attract Winblows users? Why add
 people who, usually in ignorance, sometimes arrogance, most often blame
 the OS for their problems to the Linux base of users?  They could only
 be part of the problem, not the solution!
 
   Seems to me we already gotten a large recent influx who want to
 approach problems back'a$$wards as OS, hardware, but not themselves.
 Life's about choices, YMMV
 --
Tom Brinkman  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Galveston Bay

Hey Tom,

I have an NVIDIA card and works great. What can I say, it came with the
computer.

Roman
Registered Linux User #179293
su is not the root of your problem
but the start of a new journey