Re: [newbie] OT -- Linux on Mac -- OT
Adrian Smith wrote: greetings. i ran across 2 Macs --about 3 years old (didn't check the exact type or chip)-- along with keyboard, mouse and 17inch monitors for $500. I don't think this is off topic, an install is an install, regardless of what OS used to be on the system, or what the platform is. At least I hope that's the case, I found two orphaned MAC's on the side of the road this summer, and I'm planning to network them with Linux someday. -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.2]
Michael Scottaline wrote: === Am I reading this correctly. Did you upgrade from RH 6.1 to mandrake 7.0? Is it possible to upgrade across distros? Or just with these two? I'm running RH 6.2 in my office. Do you think I can upgrade to L-M 7.2 directly? I upgraded from RH 5.2 to LM 7.0 without any problems what so ever. Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
[newbie] Graphics card/monitor not detected correctly
Hello List, I'm attempting my third LM 7.0 install, and have run into my first problem. When I reach the point where I should see the graphics screen, my monitor isn't in sync. Is there a command I can use at the boot: prompt to force a text install? I'm booting from the CD ROM, and my boot floppy is munged. -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
[newbie] What'z zat?
Hi list, I was shutting down for a storm this afternoon, and accidentally I hit the ` key, next to the 1 on the top row. I lost my Bash prompt, and the screen displayed a . I pressed the ` key again, and the bash prompt reappeared. Did I leave the Bash shell, and enter another command mode? -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [newbie] Install to a laptop without a CD drive?
Jeff Malka wrote: I have an old laptop I want to install Linux on but it does not have a CD. Is this possible? Is there a way to connect the laptop to a desktop that has a CD drive and install that way? I need to do this too, and I researched it briefly. Initially I thought I could do it with a laplink cable, PLIP, and/or Midnight Commander. However, it was pointed out to me, that by the time I get that setup, I could have setup an ethernet connection, which would be a much more useful education for me, as it has real world applications. Good luck. -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [newbie] How to start dosemu?
Jeff Malka wrote: Running Mandrake 7.1 When I type dosemu or dosemu -C (as a book suggested) in a KDE console, I get "command not found". How does one start dosemu? Check your permissions, when I tried that I found NOBODY had permission to execute dosemu. And I left it at that, this newbie isn't messing around giving root permission to do stuff somebody else thinks root shouldn't be doing. Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE. Ok, my other box is still a slave.
Re: [newbie] Process
Richard Kim wrote: How Do you kill a process and view them, I need multiple answers Use top, and top. -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [newbie] isa modem again
Martin B wrote: well folks after adding the line loginname ppp0 password into the /etc/ppp/pap-secrets file and checking if there was a line auth in the /etc/ppp/options (all there was in this file was lock) Just lock!? That's definitely a problem. You need more in there than that. I've attached a copy of my options file. You'll notice that the first line contains my login info. This is not my user login and password, but the one generated by Worldnet, that was stored in my old dialer program, and was negotiated before my old browser came up on the screen. Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE name [EMAIL PROTECTED] x lock noipdefault crtscts modem nodetach passive asyncmap 0x0 noipx #nobsdcomp #novj #require-pap #refuse-chap #auth
Re: [[newbie] Modem works (logs on) BUT *no* net, mail, etc.]
Michael Scottaline wrote: Tryn adding these lines to /etc/resolv.conf search your isp nameserver dns# nameserver dns# Your isp should provide you with two dns#'s HTH, Mike I offered similar advice, but I did notice a qwerk when I double checked my resolv.conf file. When I setup my /etc/resolv.conf file I made the following entries: search worldnet.att.net nameserver 204.127.129.1 nameserver 204.127.129.2 Before posting a reply to Tom, I double checked the contents of the file, and now it stated: search localdomain nameserver 204.127.129.1 nameserver 204.127.129.2 nameserver 204.127.160.1 #search worldnet.att.net #nameserver 204.127.129.1 #nameserver 204.127.129.2 Who/What/Why was it, that changed the entry in my /etc/resolv.conf file? Everything is still working, but I like to know what's messing around with my box!? Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [newbie] isa modem
Martin B wrote: and to be honest Darryl would you explain a little more what Did you setup a dial string? I.E. ADT 123.4567 means as i im at a loss to it yes i have put in the number to dial if that is what you are asking Yes, that was what I was asking. I realize it was a basic question, but sometimes we over look the obvious during the heat of the battle. -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [newbie] Windoze
Jeff Malka wrote: Let's stop this thread PLEASE. Those who prefer windoze are welcome to use it and stop clogging our newslist. Agreed, normally I would sit out a thread like this, which I did with the html vs txt, and its related threads. But this one is different, a brother Ham was involved, and I didn't want him to go away mad, or go away at all. I was sucked into Linux by the W2LI Computer Net, and now I'm here to stay. I intend to do my best to suck as many other Hams into Linux as possible too. We hams, as one poster pointed out, are a small sample of the linux community, but we have contributed enormously to its cause. We were doing wireless packet before the big guns thought it was feasible. I suspect we invented the concept of open source code too.! Like it or not, Ham Radio Operators are the father of electronics, including computers, Linux, etc... And they will flock to, and contribute to Linux, if we give them the chance to see the "light." Excuse this additional clogging here. I usually delete unread all the messages in this thread but am tired of seeing them. Off topic threads would be a little less annoying if the email server didn't drag them out for hours. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185 Darryl Gibson N2DIY Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
[newbie] Laplink?
Hi List, I'm tired of waiting for my Partition Magic disc to be returned to me, so I'm going to try saving my files to another machine using a lap link cable. (I'm repartitioning this box.) Is anyone on the list familiar with how to do this? I see Midnight Commander has a "send file to remote host" command, I'll play with that while waiting for replies to this note. If there is a better program than MC for this, please let me know. TIA -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [newbie] Windoze
Gil Baron W0MN wrote: Not at this time it won't. It is also MUCH harder to install for the average person. True, but since when are Ham Radio Operators average people? :) It is a fun toy and learning experience, that is all. Have you looked for apps. similar to what you want to do? I did a quick Yahoo search, and found numerous sites for Linux and Ham Radio. If you can't find what you want, try running your apps. under a Dos or Windoze emulator. Or, roll your own apps., Linux gives you all the tools you need to do that. 73 Darryl Gibson N2DIY Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [newbie] kppp connection
Mike Koceja wrote: Hi Mike, I'm not sure this is the correct solution, but it worked for me. Expect ~-- snip PPP session from (206.191.213.41) to 206.191.213.97 beginning~}#@!}!}!}}4}"..continues on... ^ ^^^ Your box is expecting "~~~" and is only getting "~". Changing the expect string to "~" may work for you, it didn't for me. What I had to do, was find a pattern in the garbage sent, and set my expect string to that. In your case it looks like the pattern is "}4}", in my case it was "}9}". HTH Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [newbie] Reply text goes ON TOP-Walt
Kathleen Dickason wrote: Kathleen, being evil and replying on the bottom AND, not editing her extraneous quotes! -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE P.S. I'm I in violation of the four line sigfile rule? P.S.S. Like I care? "And Where will the law stop itself?" Frederic Bastiat
Re: [newbie] How to find or list all active ports?
Hugh wrote: Is there a way to list all active ports? Not just a log but a real time showing? I think so, take a look at "man netstat" It's amazing the things you find when your lost in the dark! I found that command while trying to figure out how to enlarge my swap partition. -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [newbie] Swap partition
Charles A Edwards wrote: Darryl Yes to both questions. As usual, it was easier said than done. I can't unmount me / partition to free up space for the swap partition. Diskdrake tells me something is busy on the / partition, which makes sense. I thought I might be able to work around that by loading diskdrake from my cd-rom, but I can't find it. This may be a mute issue, John G. has asked me numerous questions which I should address before proceeding. Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [newbie] Swap partition
John Glasscock wrote: Swap can only use the same amount of HD space as you have RAM. It makes no sense to create a large swap partion unless you have immenent plans to increase the amount of RAM you have in your machine, which with linux is always a good thing to do. Ok, there seems to be as many opinions on this issue as there are linux users. I've heard that you should have twice the amount of swap space as you do ram. The only problem with DiskDrake (and it is only a minor quibble) is that you can't easily manipulate where you want your partitions to go. You have to think and plan ahead, and then set them sequentially, ideally starting with a 32 MB /boot partition at the front of the disk, then your / partition, usw. Ok, I think I'm in good shape here. The first 32 cylinder (16m) is my /boot partition, cylinders 33-19818 (9738m) is my / partition, and the the remaining cylinders, 19819-19885 are my 32m swap partition. Your system may be maxed out on ram, and I don't think I would spend much on it. Nope, two of my four slots are open. However, its usefulness is far from over. It would make a decent print server or firewall. How big is your harddrive? How fast is it? The hd. is a WD 10 gig, IDE, less than six months old. I don't have permission to few /var/log/dmesg, so I can't give you the details at the moment. Newbies probably NEVER touch their swap anyway until they have become familiar with downloading source code and doing recompiles of the kernal. Once you do that, you graduate to the next level :-) Ok, the motivation for this endeavor was my roomate's comment that "its slow," refering to KDE. I thought I might speed things up with more swap space. I certainly have no complaints! My roomate is biased though, he thinks I'm wasting my time with linux, and this is after he spent $8k for a six month Help Desk course for Windoze NT/2000. Also, I'm very fond of this box. Last Septemeber it was under 30 feet of water when Floyd flooded Bound Brook, NJ. My roomate literally pulled it out of the mud, which still clings to the motherboard. (I'm afraid to clean it off, if it's not broke, don't fix it.) All I did was replace the HD and monitor, and voila, I had my first 586. Hope this is informative, and please correct me if I'm wrong. Every post on this list is informative, and appreciated. Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [newbie] Swap partition
Dacia and AzureRose wrote: Mud on your motherboard?!?!?! Holy Schmidt!@ I suggest you buy some isopropol alcohol and q-tips Yes yes, I understand the implications. The "mud" is only on the solder side of the motherboard, and it's only a very fine patina, that was left behind when the water receeded. If it was on the component side, I would have run the board thru the dishwasher. Yep, that's right, the dishwasher, which we had to do with the other half dozen boxes we fished out of the Raritan River. Though we did have to remove some of the Dallas Semi chips, since they aren't hermetacly (sp) sealed. We salvaged seven boxes all together, and they are all functional, after replacing the hard drives and monitors. It is my experience that kde seems a bit slow when coming form wandows. I've got 384 megs of ram and it still isn't FAST but it is stable as all hell and fast enough that I never get frustrated with it. Fine buisness, like I said, I'm not complaining, it's my roomate, who still likes his windoze boxes. Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
[newbie] Netscape/password
Hello list, When I select "Get Messages" in Netscape I'm prompted for a password. My user's password doesn't work, but Root's password does. Root isn't even logged onto the machine. Why is this, and how can I permit users to get their mail, without using Root's password? TIA -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) RLU # 182668 This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
[newbie] Website
Hi list, A club I belong to wants to create a web site to track it's membership's status, attendance, activity participation etc... The club would like the web site to have the following features: Accessibility to all members, but not the world. (or just the top page open to the world, and the sub pages "hidden." Officers and designated members, can maintain and update the site, but not the general membership. The web page will be on a "free" ISP providers machine. Our Oracle guru passed on the project, so being the clubs Linux "guru," and not knowing any better, I volunteered to take on the project. So today I went in search of a Linux database on Freshmeat, and MUO, and was dismayed not to find a database application. Nor did I find any apps. in KDE that would seem to fit the bill. Any suggestions on how I might accomplish this task? Can Netscape Composer handle this task, or do I need something more powerful? Do I need an HTML compliant database? CGI? Can Gnumeric function as a database? Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) This computer is 100% Microsoft FREE
Re: [newbie] kdesu
Alan Shoemaker wrote: DarrylI guess that wasn't the rpm from your installation CD then? Yes it was, however I installed over Red Hat 5.2, so maybe that influenced the Mandrake install? Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm)
Re: [newbie] kdesu
Alan Shoemaker wrote: Darrylif you don't want to further explore this kdesu thing then say so, ok? Alan, the problem is solved. Kdesu doesn't show up in my locate listing because Darryl doesn't have permission to read(?) the /usr/bin directory. When I run locate as root, it is listed there. :/ Thanks for your time and help. Darryl
[newbie] Screen saver work around
Hi list, I haven't fixed my screen saver problem, but I've found I can control it manually by editing /home/Darryl/.kde/share/config/kcmdisplayrc. For some reason, the problem seems to have started when I switched from runlevel 3 to run level 5? Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm)
Re: [newbie] kdesu
Alan Shoemaker wrote: Darrylit should be in /usr/bin in fact when you use kpackage to install the kdesu rpm file you can look under the files tab where there's a list of all of the files that kpackage will install from the rpm file. Near or at the top of that list /usr/bin/kdesu will be listed. Hi Alan, That's squared away now, I didn't see it after reloading the RPM because I didn't know I needed to update the database. After cron did it's thing I found it the next morning. It wound up in /usr/share/apps though. Darryl
[newbie] Screen saver re-visited
I tried to solve the problem I have with users accessing their screen saver settings again. I reloaded any RPM that seemed related to the problem and that didn't work. I checked file permissions too, and nothing seemed out of sorts. Then it occured to me that I could just su root, and change the settings that way, that didn't work either! This is driving me nuts, anybody have any ideas why my users can't access the screen saver settings? They do have access to the other Desktop settings. TIA -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm)
[newbie] Screen saver Bug #752
Hello list, I found my screen saver problem listed on the MUO bug list, #752, listed under resolved. However, the associated messages don't explain the fix. Where do I find the fix? TIA -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm)
Re: [newbie] kdesu
Alan Shoemaker wrote: Darrylif there is no /usr/bin/kdesu file on your computer then you need to install the kdesu rpm file from your master CD. Hi Alan, Ok, I did that, and still I can't ls -al, or locate kdesu. I did find a /usr/bin/kcmkdesu file, which I suspected might be a make file, tried that, and was told it couldn't connect to X. So I started X, ran Lothar, and it worked!? No mouse problems either. I don't know what the hell is going on, but at least Lothar is working again, and from root for the first time. FWIW, when I rebooted after re-installing the RPM, a check was forced on HDA5, so maybe that cleaned something up? TTYL Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm) P.S. I crossed my fingers, and tried to change my screensaver options as Darryl, but that still isn't working. I think I'll reload that package too.
[newbie] Screen saver
Hello list, How do I permit my users to change their screen saver settings in KDE? I don't know which file grants these permissions? -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm)
[newbie] Screen saver
Hello list, The users on my box can no longer access their screen saver options in KDE. The only significant thing I have done recently is switch from runlevel 3 to runlevel 5. The other Desktop options are still available. Any ideas? -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm)
Re: [newbie] Administration Question
Bob wrote: Why do I think that the message below has anything to do with me, and how many others have wondered the same thing. It would be appreciated if people could consider if what they are replying to has meaning to everyone on the list. Thank you. Bob Root On Mon, 05 Jun 2000, you wrote: thanks flupke bascule To put it another way, thank you, your welcome, and me too messages clutter the list, and waste bandwidth. This is a help list, courtesy is implied, and therefore doesn't need to be expressed. HTH -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm)
Re: [newbie] Boot Sequence Failures?
Owner wrote: I've noticed that during my boot sequence with Mandrake, I've been getting some failures. Snip One failures: eth0 .. I get: Jun 4 13:12:12 cero ifup: Delaying eth0 initialization. Jun 4 13:12:12 cero network: Bringing up interface eth0 failed (cero is the name of me computer) The strange part is that once everything is up and running, my interface is working, and I am able to get to the outside word. No additional tweaking on my part. I'm thinking it's because of it's order in the boot sequence. Snip Other than that, Mandrake's running like a champ on me laptop .. thanx for yall's help Take a look at the /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit file, I believe that is the file that controls the boot sequence. -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm)
Re: [newbie] How do I mount a modem?
Hugo GONZALEZ wrote: but how do I mount my modem? Hmm, I dunno, and I don't think you need to know either, I suspect that is handled by Linux. The way I got my modem working was by playing around with Minicom. Once you have control of the modem thru Minicom, you should graduate to PPP : -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm)
Re: [newbie] Keyboard applet under Helix-GNOME 1.2
Alan Shoemaker wrote: If you don't yet have the square there then open the KDE Control Panel and choose Input devices and International keyboard to access the add keyboard function and be sure to check both autostart and docked in the StartUp tab. Thanks Alan, This almost worked. The problem is my default keyboard is Dvorak, not English, so when I set things up the way you describe, linux thinks it's switching from English to Dvorak, unstead of Dvorak to English. So the Dvorak board works, but the English board doesn't. I fooled around trying to figure out how to tell KDE that the Dvorak board is the default, but I couldn't figure out how to do it. I suppose I could run kbdconf and reset the machines default back to English, but that doesn't allow me to work at the command line in Dvorak. TIA Darryl
Re: [newbie] Memmory Recognition under Mandrake
Cy Hudson wrote: Still having problems getting Mandrake to recognize all of my ram. I have 256 installed and all it sees is 64. Any help would be appreciated... Cy Check out the append command with _man append_. -- Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm)
Re: [newbie] Keyboard applet under Helix-GNOME 1.2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just downloaded and installed Helix GNOME 1.2 Everything is working nice, except for the keyboard applet. It used to work fine in the previous ML 7.0 Error loading new keyboard description Any ideas? Sorry, I can't help, but I was sure happy to see you have this problem, since I wish I had it too. I've been trying to figure out how to switch between Dvork and US keyboards for long time now. I would like users to select their keyboard at the login prompt. Can this be done LM 7? Where would I find the keyboard applet? I attempted to do this with Red Hat, but I couldn't find a solution, and I stumped the Gurus on the RH list. TIA Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm)
Re: [newbie] Fwd: Internet
Jeffrey B. Ferland wrote: I don't know if you've already gotten this, my e-mail keeps getting bounced! --- Assuming I've got more than one working modem, each on their own phone line, is their anyway to use then both at once on separate connection? Dunno. How on earth does an ISP cram all those calls into one phone number? Not sure, probably some fancy multiplexing and switching hardware, running on a good multitasking platform like *unix. (whick was designed by good ole Ma Bell to begin with.) I want to change my domain name (it's localhost.localdomian right now. It should be autocracy.dcci.com - how do I tell the computer that?) See man Hostname. Darryl Gibson Linux Neophyte (tm)
Re: [newbie] Hello
Hello list, I think I'm the newist (?) newbie on the list. I signed up yesterday, before I upgraded from RH 5.2 to Mandrake 7. Andrew Scotchmer wrote: Though I would like some things to be made easier, most of which have been mentioned in the Discussion thread, I do feel that to make it too user friendly would rob Linux of it's unique position and it's marvels. Heck, if it becomes to user friendly with everything done without a thourght being required from the user, why don't we just all jack it in and reinstall Windoze What do you all think out there??? I'm not familiar with the history of this thread, but after wrestling with an other linux install/config for nine months, I found the upgrade to Mandrake to be a breeze, even if I did lose my mouse functionality in the process. And while reconfiguring the mouse, I lost my keyboard too! Somehow, Mandrake fixed things, after I told Lilo to boot my "old_linux." What other OS. could manage to do that!? I've accomplished more in 24 hours with Mandrake, than I have in a month with my old Linux, let alone some other type of OS. Linux may not be user friendly, at first, but the bug fixes are free, and you don't have to wait a year + for the fixes to be rolled out. Almost Microsoft free. Darryl
