Re: [newbie] hostname: bash-2.05
The later version of bash does not mess up your bashrc, but it won't restore your lost one either, if I understand you correctly. Jay On Friday 07 September 2001 11:17, I was honored with this communique: right, some more interesting facts i have just discovered: i have lost the pretty colors in my terminal. it doesn't appear to live in /etc, now i dont know if that's bad or not, but there is where it lives: bash-2.05$ locate bashrc /etc/skel/.bashrc /home/antoine/.bashrc bash-2.05$ cd / bash-2.05$ locate bash-2.05 /var/cache/grpmi/bash-2.05-6mdk.i586.rpm /usr/share/doc/bash-2.05 /usr/share/doc/bash-2.05/README /usr/share/doc/bash-2.05/CHANGES would trying to upgrade it with a later bash-2.05 from mandrake cooker possibly solve my probleme?(i suppose i could try, and i will unless somebody tells me it's a bad idea) On Thursday 06 September 2001 20:09, you wrote: Well, when I loaded bash-2.05, I didn't have any hostname issues as such, but it did rename /etc/bashrc to /etc/bashrc.rpmnew - which caused a bit of confusion as my custom prompt was located there. All I had to do was change the name of the file back and all was well. Hope this helps. Jay On Friday 07 September 2001 12:38, I was honored with this communique: On Thursday 06 September 2001 13:38, you wrote: Does the user that you were loged in have permissons on his assigned home directory? The same happened to my a couple of days before, and I see in LunxConf that the home directory of the user I was logging in was created by the root and the user ddidn't have permissons . . . Maybe it's just a coincidence the user does have permissions to his home directerory, and furthermore the same thing occurs when logged in as root. when changing directory, that bash-2.05$ doesn't change to bash -2.05/directory$ or anything, i am baffled -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of antoine rivoire Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 7:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] hostname: bash-2.05 hi i think i might have seen somebody emailing about that prob before, but i cant find it in the archive: in term windows, my hostname has been replaced by bash-2.05$ anybody? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- I have misplaced my pants. - Homer J. Simpson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] install Star Office freezes mouse mdk80
It sounds like you are using XFree86 4.0.x - I haven't tried StarOffice with the latest (4.1?) but I know it does not play well with 4.0.3, especially if you have an S3-based graphics card. I had to completely purge XFree86 4.0.3 and use Xfree86 3.3.6 instead. Works like a charm. StarOffice 6 is supposed to be out by the end of the year and should address this problem. Jay On Friday 31 August 2001 11:20, I was honored with this communique: Trying to run/complete the installation of Star Office 5.2 freezes my MS Intellimouse and stops install dead in its tracks. I've tried installing from the CD and from a 90+ MB download. Same results. Any ideas? Athlon 850, Epox MB, 128mb RAM, Mandrake 8.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=message.footer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- I used to think I had an appetite for destruction, but all I really wanted was a club sandwich. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Konqueror Problem
I had the same problem until I upgraded to LM8.0 with KDE 2.1.2 and Konqueror 2.1.1. Occasionally it pops up again but only rarely. What versions of KDEand Konqueror are you using? Jay On Thursday 26 July 2001 h:05, Darren wrote: Hey everyone, another minor problem. Konqueror will not allow me to log into certain sites. More specifically, some web based email accounts. What happens is I type in the user name and password, then it basically goes right back to the login page after I click 'Log In' - There are no error messages, and the email does not tell me there was any problems (bad password, etc). However it does all work in Netscape Mozilla. But lets face it, atleast in my opinion, them two browsers arent worth very much. (Java is installed in Konq and working properly - so I think) So on that note, should I just assume the mail server (Lycos) just doesnt like the way Konqueror does things? Or is there something I can do about it? Darren AKA Liquid Delusion System Setup Custom Built DualBoot - Win98SE Linux-Mandrake 8.0 [Like Windows gets used lol] AMD 850MHz 256MB RAM Two 40GB HardDrives 52x CDROM 12x10x32 CDRW Giga-Byte System Board ATI Rage Series w/ 32MB SoundBlaster PCI 128 RealTek Ethernet ---Alot of the above doesnt have anything to do with problem. Just part of saved draft--- -- I used to think I had an appetite for destruction, but all I really wanted was a club sandwich.
Re: [newbie] Change package architecture?
I would say the best path to take would be to get the source rather than the rpm, and compile it yourself. The process is pretty staightforward if you accept the default settings, and there is usually a README file - although the process usually consists of: ./configure make make install and you're done. Jay On Sunday 08 July 2001 06:49, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: All first generation Pentiums (including their MMX variants) are i586. Any CPU built on Pentium Pro (or PPro) technology is an i686. This includes the Pentium II, Celeron and Pentium III. The Pentium IV is a different architecture again, and probably would be classified as an i786. Since i686 processors have capabilities beyond those of their i586 predecessors, an i686-optimised binary may not run well on an i586, if at all. It may be worth giving it a try, but dont expect too much, particularly on a non-Intel chip. On Sun, 8 Jul 2001 09:11, etharp wrote: I would bet it will run, but you might be better off to try and download the i586 version if you could. as i understand it (and i ain't no ex-spurt) the i686 starts around the time mmx extensions started, but almost any socket 7 pentium (as opposed to socket 5) or faster would/should be able to run i686 rpms. would also, anytime asking for help (I believe) to include as much information as might be applicable. in otherwords please explain further, the speed of CPU and motherboard, memory, just what RPM you want to install, what other questions might be asked. G On Saturday 07 July 2001 17:16, Jon Doe wrote: On Saturday 07 July 2001 05:05 pm, you wrote: might help to know if this i586 is a pentium 90 or cyrix 266 or celeron 466.? On Saturday 07 July 2001 16:51, Jon Doe wrote: I have an i686.rpm that I want to install on my i586. Is this possible? If so how? AMD K6. Is that what you were looking for? -- Support your local law enforcement agency - this week commit the crime of your choice!
Re: [newbie] StarOffice and Linux2.4.3-20mdk
On Tue, 03 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: Jay DeKing wrote: On Sun, 01 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: On Sunday 01 July 2001 05:42 pm, RobertLuzader wrote: Perhaps someone can give a newbie some advice. I recently purchased Mandrake 8.0 and so far I'm pretty satisfied. Having worked in the Windows world for the past few years it's great to see other operating systems coming about. The install went very well and over all I'm impressed with the ease Mandrake 8.0 loaded up, but (Here it comes,,, always a but) After installing Staroffice 5.2 and trying to open it my system hangs. This requires a reboot to get things running again. I've been to the Sun site and the only thing I've found is a recommendation to go back to a different Kernel and that StarOffice is coming out with (Who knows when) an upgrade. Therefore there will not be a patch Has this been encountered by others? also Why would Mandrake include it with their system if it wouldn't run properly? Any guidance would be appreciated. Robert Robert, Can you provide additional information about your computer configuration. In the meantime, rather than rebooting, try holding down the CNTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE keys. Log back in again. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Kmailer by Tux I have gone through this myself, and none of the many recommended key combinations worked - the keyboard was COMPLETELY unresponsive. The reset button was the only way out. So, I reinstalled LM 7.2 and now am using StarOffice again. This feels like a video driver problem to me - the mouse pointer freezes along with everything else. My video card is a Stealth III S540, which was mentioned by several individuals on the StarOffice site who are having the same problem. Since StarOffice 5.2 worked fine in LM7.2, I would say that the problem does not lie with StarOffice but with the X driver supplied with LM8. I've tried both the 4.0.3 and 3.3.6 drivers and the same thing happens with both. Jay -- You no longer change. You've changed! I think you should ask Civileme. He can give you a better answer about this You may want try out a different kernel Also suggested by StarOffice website. Been there, done that (2.2.19mdk). No difference. Jay -- Support your local law enforcement agency - this week commit the crime of your choice!
Re: [newbie] StarOffice and Linux2.4.3-20mdk
On Wed, 04 Jul 2001, Jay DeKing wrote: On Tue, 03 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: Jay DeKing wrote: On Sun, 01 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: On Sunday 01 July 2001 05:42 pm, RobertLuzader wrote: Perhaps someone can give a newbie some advice. I recently purchased Mandrake 8.0 and so far I'm pretty satisfied. Having worked in the Windows world for the past few years it's great to see other operating systems coming about. The install went very well and over all I'm impressed with the ease Mandrake 8.0 loaded up, but (Here it comes,,, always a but) After installing Staroffice 5.2 and trying to open it my system hangs. This requires a reboot to get things running again. I've been to the Sun site and the only thing I've found is a recommendation to go back to a different Kernel and that StarOffice is coming out with (Who knows when) an upgrade. Therefore there will not be a patch Has this been encountered by others? also Why would Mandrake include it with their system if it wouldn't run properly? Any guidance would be appreciated. Robert Robert, Can you provide additional information about your computer configuration. In the meantime, rather than rebooting, try holding down the CNTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE keys. Log back in again. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Kmailer by Tux I have gone through this myself, and none of the many recommended key combinations worked - the keyboard was COMPLETELY unresponsive. The reset button was the only way out. So, I reinstalled LM 7.2 and now am using StarOffice again. This feels like a video driver problem to me - the mouse pointer freezes along with everything else. My video card is a Stealth III S540, which was mentioned by several individuals on the StarOffice site who are having the same problem. Since StarOffice 5.2 worked fine in LM7.2, I would say that the problem does not lie with StarOffice but with the X driver supplied with LM8. I've tried both the 4.0.3 and 3.3.6 drivers and the same thing happens with both. Jay -- You no longer change. You've changed! I think you should ask Civileme. He can give you a better answer about this You may want try out a different kernel Also suggested by StarOffice website. Been there, done that (2.2.19mdk). No difference. Jay I downloaded a Savage4 driver patch from http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html and will give that a try. Jay -- Support your local law enforcement agency - this week commit the crime of your choice!
Re: [newbie] StarOffice and Linux2.4.3-20mdk
I have a USB printer. No TV card, no network card. The only ISA card I have is my modem (only one ISA slot, the rest are PCI and AGP). The USB is integrated into the mobo. When the problem first manifested itself, I had the printer attached to the parallel port and nothing was using the USB ports. I just reinstalled 8.0, taking care NOT to install the 4.0.3 Xfree driver. The last time, I installed 4.0.3, and tried to go back to 3.3.6 when StarOffice froze, but I think that having 4.0.3 lingering around may have continued to cause problems. Haven't tried StarOffice yet. If it doesn't work, I'll bump Xfree up to 4.0.3 and apply the patch and try again. Jay On Wednesday 04 July 2001 07:13, etharp wrote: you note that it works OK in MDK 7.2 do you have USB and do you use it? the difference may be the IRQ for USB is causing the hang up. I found that my network card, my USB and my TVcard all using the same irq caused problems with MDK 8.0 and I had to move some of the cards around for a different setup. On Wednesday 04 July 2001 02:44, Jay DeKing wrote: On Wed, 04 Jul 2001, Jay DeKing wrote: On Tue, 03 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: Jay DeKing wrote: On Sun, 01 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: On Sunday 01 July 2001 05:42 pm, RobertLuzader wrote: Perhaps someone can give a newbie some advice. I recently purchased Mandrake 8.0 and so far I'm pretty satisfied. Having worked in the Windows world for the past few years it's great to see other operating systems coming about. The install went very well and over all I'm impressed with the ease Mandrake 8.0 loaded up, but (Here it comes,,, always a but) After installing Staroffice 5.2 and trying to open it my system hangs. This requires a reboot to get things running again. I've been to the Sun site and the only thing I've found is a recommendation to go back to a different Kernel and that StarOffice is coming out with (Who knows when) an upgrade. Therefore there will not be a patch Has this been encountered by others? also Why would Mandrake include it with their system if it wouldn't run properly? Any guidance would be appreciated. Robert Robert, Can you provide additional information about your computer configuration. In the meantime, rather than rebooting, try holding down the CNTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE keys. Log back in again. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Kmailer by Tux I have gone through this myself, and none of the many recommended key combinations worked - the keyboard was COMPLETELY unresponsive. The reset button was the only way out. So, I reinstalled LM 7.2 and now am using StarOffice again. This feels like a video driver problem to me - the mouse pointer freezes along with everything else. My video card is a Stealth III S540, which was mentioned by several individuals on the StarOffice site who are having the same problem. Since StarOffice 5.2 worked fine in LM7.2, I would say that the problem does not lie with StarOffice but with the X driver supplied with LM8. I've tried both the 4.0.3 and 3.3.6 drivers and the same thing happens with both. Jay -- You no longer change. You've changed! I think you should ask Civileme. He can give you a better answer about this You may want try out a different kernel Also suggested by StarOffice website. Been there, done that (2.2.19mdk). No difference. Jay I downloaded a Savage4 driver patch from http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html and will give that a try. Jay -- Support your local law enforcement agency - this week commit the crime of your choice!
Re: [newbie] StarOffice and Linux2.4.3-20mdk
It's working now. The problem was the Xfree 4.0.3 graphics driver; my previous install had that driver loaded, and despite going through the Mandrake Control Center (as root) and telling it to use 3.3.6, the 4.0.3 software was still lingering on the system. Reverting to 7.2 and upgrading again to 8.0 (being very careful not to allow 4.0.3 to infect my system this time) solved the problem. There was probably an easier way to accomplish this, but I needed to access my data and had been banging my head against this problem for days. The idea to reinstall without 4.0.3 didn't occur to me until later. Just glad to have LM8 running again with StarOffice along for the ride. Thanks for the suggestions, Jay On Wednesday 04 July 2001 13:17, Jay DeKing wrote: I have a USB printer. No TV card, no network card. The only ISA card I have is my modem (only one ISA slot, the rest are PCI and AGP). The USB is integrated into the mobo. When the problem first manifested itself, I had the printer attached to the parallel port and nothing was using the USB ports. I just reinstalled 8.0, taking care NOT to install the 4.0.3 Xfree driver. The last time, I installed 4.0.3, and tried to go back to 3.3.6 when StarOffice froze, but I think that having 4.0.3 lingering around may have continued to cause problems. Haven't tried StarOffice yet. If it doesn't work, I'll bump Xfree up to 4.0.3 and apply the patch and try again. Jay On Wednesday 04 July 2001 07:13, etharp wrote: you note that it works OK in MDK 7.2 do you have USB and do you use it? the difference may be the IRQ for USB is causing the hang up. I found that my network card, my USB and my TVcard all using the same irq caused problems with MDK 8.0 and I had to move some of the cards around for a different setup. On Wednesday 04 July 2001 02:44, Jay DeKing wrote: On Wed, 04 Jul 2001, Jay DeKing wrote: On Tue, 03 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: Jay DeKing wrote: On Sun, 01 Jul 2001, Romanator wrote: On Sunday 01 July 2001 05:42 pm, RobertLuzader wrote: Perhaps someone can give a newbie some advice. I recently purchased Mandrake 8.0 and so far I'm pretty satisfied. Having worked in the Windows world for the past few years it's great to see other operating systems coming about. The install went very well and over all I'm impressed with the ease Mandrake 8.0 loaded up, but (Here it comes,,, always a but) After installing Staroffice 5.2 and trying to open it my system hangs. This requires a reboot to get things running again. I've been to the Sun site and the only thing I've found is a recommendation to go back to a different Kernel and that StarOffice is coming out with (Who knows when) an upgrade. Therefore there will not be a patch Has this been encountered by others? also Why would Mandrake include it with their system if it wouldn't run properly? Any guidance would be appreciated. Robert Robert, Can you provide additional information about your computer configuration. In the meantime, rather than rebooting, try holding down the CNTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE keys. Log back in again. Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Kmailer by Tux I have gone through this myself, and none of the many recommended key combinations worked - the keyboard was COMPLETELY unresponsive. The reset button was the only way out. So, I reinstalled LM 7.2 and now am using StarOffice again. This feels like a video driver problem to me - the mouse pointer freezes along with everything else. My video card is a Stealth III S540, which was mentioned by several individuals on the StarOffice site who are having the same problem. Since StarOffice 5.2 worked fine in LM7.2, I would say that the problem does not lie with StarOffice but with the X driver supplied with LM8. I've tried both the 4.0.3 and 3.3.6 drivers and the same thing happens with both. Jay -- You no longer change. You've changed! I think you should ask Civileme. He can give you a better answer about this You may want try out a different kernel Also suggested by StarOffice website. Been there, done that (2.2.19mdk). No difference. Jay I downloaded a Savage4 driver patch from http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html and will give that a try. Jay -- Support your local law enforcement agency - this week commit the crime of your choice!
Re: [newbie] curious ....
First, I never gave a second look at a Mac. First off at that time APPLE was Neither did I. My sum total experience using Macs is about 2 hours, back in the 1980's on a microscopic Mac with a black white screen the size of a postcard. That was enough for me. Plus the proprietary, overpriced hardware and single-button mouse, and lack of decent CAD software, and the general dumbing-down effect of the whole Mac experience. Many of you have provided so much help to us newbies but your past experience and with some of you with a formal UNIX education go through command lines as if they were just plain englsih(or perspective native language). Personally, I don't get excited and find command lines boring and unnecessary. With a GUI it is point and click and so on. It is not lazy or an aide to the stupid. Frankly, not everyone who has a car wants a manual transmission or work on it to make the adjustment so that car runs the way the owner wants it to. My formal computer training consists of one semester of punch-card computer math back in the 1970's. I didn't use a computer again, except for data entry, until 1989, when I started using DOS (command line) and a little bit of Windows 2.0 (utterly useless). From that point I used every version of DOS and Windows up to 98SE. I had never used Unix until about a year ago, but I started programming in every computer language I was able to find time to teach myself starting in 1990. I love the command line, but I also love the windowing environment. That is one problem I have with Windows - sure, you can open a DOS window, but it's clunky. In Linux the terminal windows feel more integrated; I always have at least one open. Often it is just more efficient to work from the command line than to mouse all over the place - click, hold, drag, drop, oops, dropped it in the wrong place, undo, try again ... damn, it copied instead of moving (or vice versa) ... but the windowing environment does have great advantages as well. It's a matter of finding a balance that works for you., and Linux gives me that freedom. I still use Windows, just not very often. I love Linux but I can honestly say as unbias observer Linux is not for the common person. So far all the usrs I have encountered are techies, wanna be techies, hackers(as in enjoyers of software and not a cracker) and those with a formal UNIX education. As Linux moves to become easier I think it is losing that thing that has given the rise and recognition. Still though evolution has a funny way of throwing a monkey wrench into the mix now and then. I am curious to see what the future holds for all OS. I have to agree there, as a self-described techie and geek. For many years I tried to hide my geekiness; grew my hair, was a stoner, and did the blue-collar thing, but I couldn't hide forever. I cut my hair, sobered up, and went techie (not in that order) and am now a happy geeky tech-dude. I even own golf shirts and khakis now, though a lot of the golf shirts have penguins on them rather than alligators ;) Oh, by the way, I prefer manual shift cars ... but I haven't driven in years. I ride a bicycle. It adds to the eccentric aura I like to project. And it's more respectable than the bloodshot eyes and ponytail down to my a** that I used to wear. Jay aka The Insane Multitasker
Re: [newbie] StarOffice freezes in 8.0
I solved the problem, but not in the way I had hoped: I went back to LM 7.2. My research on the StarOffice forum found a lot of people with the same problem but most of the accusations directed at my video card (Diamond Stealth III S540), but the same card works fine with the driver provided in 7.2. (Which, of course, is not specifically made for this card.) Other options mentioned in the StarOffice forum and tried without success are: use the 2.2.19 kernel, use the older Xfree driver, use Standard VGA driver with 640x480 resolution (which leaves many of the controls off the screen and still locks up the machine anyway). SO ... I'm back to LM7.2 for now, but at least I'm also back in control of my finances, medications, and vital statistics ... every little facet of my life is tracked on spreadsheets, which I migrated from MS Office to StarOffice a few months ago. I also quickly learned that the wonderful compatibility between these two programs was not to be in my case. None of the spreadsheets I tried to send back to Excel could be opened there. As soon as I move to my new digs, I'll reassemble my old PC and set it up as an LM 7.2 box for incompatible apps and network it with my newer machine, where I will reinstall LM 8.0. Right now I just don't have room to do this. Later Jay On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Jay DeKing wrote: I finally received my 8.0 Power Pack, and everything looks great, but Star Office won't run. When I click on the Star Office icon, it runs setup, but as soon as I hit next it locks up tight with the hard drive access light on. I've left it alone for as long as an hour just in case it was actually doing something, with no luck. If I'm not quick on the draw and don't hit next right away, it will lock up anyway, but without the disk access light. The only way to break out of this is with the power button; Ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't work, neither do ctrl-alt-F1 or ctrl-alt-del (which I have enabled). I also tried alt-SysRq-S + alt-SysRq-U + al-SysRq-B. It always comes back to the power button. As you notice I have learned a good assortment of keystrokes to try in order to avoid that heinous button, but you gotta do what you gotta do. I've done some research into this on the StarOffice support forum, and there I found the suggestion to set the environment variable SAL_DO_NOT_USE_INVERT50=true, which I have done, rebooted, and verified that it has been set; no change. Since this feels like a video setup problem, I checked all of the video parameters and they all correspond correctly to my hardware. StarOffice worked like a charm in 7.2, and I have a lot of very important data locked up in those spreadsheets. Any help that can be provided would be appreciated. Thanks, Jay DeKing -- Support your local law enforcement agency - this week commit the crime of your choice!
[newbie] StarOffice freezes in 8.0
I finally received my 8.0 Power Pack, and everything looks great, but Star Office won't run. When I click on the Star Office icon, it runs setup, but as soon as I hit next it locks up tight with the hard drive access light on. I've left it alone for as long as an hour just in case it was actually doing something, with no luck. If I'm not quick on the draw and don't hit next right away, it will lock up anyway, but without the disk access light. The only way to break out of this is with the power button; Ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't work, neither do ctrl-alt-F1 or ctrl-alt-del (which I have enabled). I also tried alt-SysRq-S + alt-SysRq-U + al-SysRq-B. It always comes back to the power button. As you notice I have learned a good assortment of keystrokes to try in order to avoid that heinous button, but you gotta do what you gotta do. I've done some research into this on the StarOffice support forum, and there I found the suggestion to set the environment variable SAL_DO_NOT_USE_INVERT50=true, which I have done, rebooted, and verified that it has been set; no change. Since this feels like a video setup problem, I checked all of the video parameters and they all correspond correctly to my hardware. StarOffice worked like a charm in 7.2, and I have a lot of very important data locked up in those spreadsheets. Any help that can be provided would be appreciated. Thanks, Jay DeKing
Re: [newbie] Linux bashing again by Intel??
I have to agree with Sridhar on this. I didn't choose Linux because I expected Plug'n'Play. If I wanted a Mac (ewww!) I would have bought a Mac. I expected a learning experience; that's what I like in my hobbies. Since installing my first Linux distro some 7 or 8 months ago, I've acquired an entire shelf of books and several full distros - and a whole lotta' learning. To use a mixed metaphor, on the Linux highway, I have passed the driver's test but am not a master mechanic yet. I belong to at least a dozen mailing lists on several different subjects, from Linux to genealogy to circuit board design (the hobby that actually pays the bills). Do I get answers to all of my questions? No. Are all of the answers I do get helpful? Not always, but they are certainly appreciated. If I had judged my experience from a few posts, or even a couple dozen posts, I would have soured on the whole mailing list concept long ago, but it's kind of like a shotgun effect: send enough shot at your target and something's going to hit it. Don't get discouraged. Patience is a virtue. On Sunday 24 June 2001 06:35 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: You seem to be EXPECTING people to answer your questions. This is an e-mail list in which users help users. Nobody HAS to answer anything. This isn't because we don't like you, it more likely is because nobody knows the answer, or you haven't explained it well enough. You should feel lucky that you have this kind of free community-based support -- you'll never have it in the M$ world. There, you'll have to pay through the nose for tech support. You can pay for tech support in GNU/Linux as well. This would be recommended if, say, you had a company relying on GNU/Linux. Also, as Civileme wrote, you should check ALL avenues of support. You cannot expect to find all the answers on the Linux-Mandrake Newbie List. You should be also looking at places like Linux.com, LinuxNewbie.org, MandrakeUser.org, and MandrakeExpert for help. Newsgroups and IRC can be gold mines for support. You can even pay LinuxCare or a distro provider for guaranteed support. On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 03:36, Loke Kit Kai wrote: right... asking experienced people for help... it is this kind of mail that push me off linux... I did gave linux a try, post a few mails on this mailing list... how? got any help? NO!!! -- Support your local law enforcement agency - this week commit the crime of your choice!
Re: [newbie] change hostname
Ah, yes, I forget about that one. Also the DOMAIN line in the same file. On Sunday 17 June 2001 00:18, you wrote: You should also change the line in /etc/sysconfig/network for HOSTNAME On 15 Jun 2001 20:39:03 -0400, Jay DeKing wrote: I've never had any luck with the hostname command; it works fine until I reboot, then my changes are lost. The best way to do it is to edit (as root) the /etc/hosts file. DO NOT change or delete the line that says localhost.localdomain localhost - some aspects of the system really want that to be there. Rather, copy that line, but in the new line change both instances of localhost to the new hostname and change localdomain to your desired domain name. The DNS address for both lines should be 127.0.0.1 . I personally don't use Linuxconf because it always insists on changing a lot of things that I don't want changed - for example, I lose my user-level pppd privileges if I let Linuxconf do things its way. I'll use it as a reference tool but not to modify settings. And, just in case I've been awake hacking away too long and do save the fubar'd changes, I have scripts set up to fix the usual offenders (such as chmods and chowns) Jay DeKing On Friday 15 June 2001 10:46, Tim Holmes wrote: You can also use the hostname command. Just type hostname mymachine.name.domain.com That will do the trick as well. That's what I've used in FreeBSD. Since there's no Linuxconf to use that I know of, and I don't have X installed to find another GUI. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! | How do I change the hostname that is set during startup | (localhost.localdomain)? The hostname command changes it, but at | startup it is always set back to localhost.localdomain during boot. | | -Noah Richards -- -- I thought I had an appetite for destruction, but all I really wanted was a club sandwich -- Support your local law enforcement agency - this week commit the crime of your choice!
Re: [newbie] change hostname
I've never had any luck with the hostname command; it works fine until I reboot, then my changes are lost. The best way to do it is to edit (as root) the /etc/hosts file. DO NOT change or delete the line that says localhost.localdomain localhost - some aspects of the system really want that to be there. Rather, copy that line, but in the new line change both instances of localhost to the new hostname and change localdomain to your desired domain name. The DNS address for both lines should be 127.0.0.1 . I personally don't use Linuxconf because it always insists on changing a lot of things that I don't want changed - for example, I lose my user-level pppd privileges if I let Linuxconf do things its way. I'll use it as a reference tool but not to modify settings. And, just in case I've been awake hacking away too long and do save the fubar'd changes, I have scripts set up to fix the usual offenders (such as chmods and chowns) Jay DeKing On Friday 15 June 2001 10:46, Tim Holmes wrote: You can also use the hostname command. Just type hostname mymachine.name.domain.com That will do the trick as well. That's what I've used in FreeBSD. Since there's no Linuxconf to use that I know of, and I don't have X installed to find another GUI. tdh -- T. Holmes - UNIXTECHS.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Real Men Us Vi! | How do I change the hostname that is set during startup | (localhost.localdomain)? The hostname command changes it, but at startup | it is always set back to localhost.localdomain during boot. | | -Noah Richards -- -- I thought I had an appetite for destruction, but all I really wanted was a club sandwich
Re: [newbie] Wow
I have to agree with you there, Solver. I'm giving KDE a thorough test now, though, since I somehow trashed my Sawfish. I can get other wm's to work with Gnome but I love my Fish too much, so I'm doing the KDE thing. KDE just has a cold feel to me. Gnome gives me a warm feeling and like you say, the panel is to die for. I'm a bit concerned about the instability that's been reported in Gnome 1.4, though; I don't have it yet, still waiting on my LM 8 to be delivered. Jay On Friday 15 June 2001 14:32, Solver wrote: KDE sucks was my first thought when I first ran Linux, almost a year ago. Even though for a very short time. Love GNOME - it looks better, love the Panel, even though, I mostly either use StarrOffice, or sit neck deep in a terminal. Solver - Original Message - From: Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adams, Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Linux List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Wow I guess it really depends on what you do with your system. I like to push mine right to its limits, running stuff like Windows in VMware (which is reasonably usable) and having several different web browsers open on a GNOME desktop. I've noticed that KDE and especially IceWM are faster than GNOME, but I find that GNOME suits my needs better (nothing can compare to Sawfish and the GNOME Panel :-) On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:26, Adams, Jamie wrote: I dont know why you lot should be chuggin'. Im using a Toshiba Satellite 2520CDT (AMD K62-300) with 64mb ram and a 4.1gig HDD, everything runs perfectly on mine, much faster than 98 did! no complaints here.. -- Jamie Adams Housing Assistant 41 Castle Road SCARBOROUGH North Yorkshire, YO11 1BJ Tel: (01723) 507543 Fax: (01723) 355862 -- From: Sridhar Dhanapalan[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 June 2001 07:33 To: Jay needs a Guinness; Linux List Subject: Re: [newbie] Wow On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:58, Jay needs a Guinness wrote: You are chuggin'?!!??!! I still have a Compaq 2266 with a Cyrix 225MHz. Thank God I installed more RAM and a new hard drive. Me PC is horribly obselete. But, not to disappoint you all, the new computer I buy will be the new Dual Proc Mac with OS X. I refuse to buy Windoze ever again, and I miss Macs. If I didn't have 256MB of RAM and a 12GB hard drive (which was absolutely massive when I bought it in 1998), I would've gone nuts a long time ago. My computer may be a bit on the slow side, but it's *just* (only just) fast enough to run GNOME with apps like Konqueror with anti-aliased fonts. I hope you don't plan on abandoning GNU/Linux entirely. Remember, Mandrake have a PPC Mac version in the works -- it's currently at the beta 1 stage, so it should be out quite soon. It even has a nifty app (Mac on Linux) that'll allow you to run Mac apps in Linux! If you're interested, there's a good FAQ list for Mac on Linux at http://www.ibrium.se/linux/overview.html. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan. There are two major products that come from Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson -- I thought I had an appetite for destruction, but all I really wanted was a club sandwich
Re: [newbie] strange installation issue..
Ah, yes, you have libc.so.6, BUT ... I betcha it's just a link to an older version than 2.2! I have received the same message when trying to install certain rpms; tried to fix it by updating my glibc package to 2.2 but there are other dependencies that rpm -Uvh complains about. I guess I'm just going to upgrade to LM8. When it first came out, I saw mostly complaints about incompatibilities, but the 'reviews' are getting better. I hope it supports my USB printer and parallel port scanner ... haven't had any luck with either in 7.2 ... I'll never get the Windows monkey off my back until everything I use is completely supported in LM. Jay Franki wrote: Hi all, I just tried to install sfio-1999-3mdk.i586.rpm onto my 7.2mdk box It gave me this message.. error: failed dependencies: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by sfio-1999-3mdk so I did did a: locate libc.so.6 and it found it at 3 places.. like so: /lib/libc.so.6 /var/ftp/lib/libc.so.6 /usr/i386-glibc20-linux/lib/libc.so.6 Since it appears to be there... why am I getting this message?? I tryed doing a rpm --rebuilddb to see if it would make a difference, but it didn't. can anyone help me out here...?? I am trying to install the mdk8 version of sendmail, as the 7.2 one is broken... (please don't start a thing about postfix vs sendmail, I have way to many perl scripts setup to use sendmail to change them all over.) I have been unable to rebuild the src rpms for the above with these messages... which I assume is caused by my compiler being to old... so I guess I am going for the binary rpm this is the message I got at the end of the failed compile: + echo 'Patch #0 (sendmail-8.11.0-redhat.patch.bz2):' Patch #0 (sendmail-8.11.0-redhat.patch.bz2): + /usr/bin/bzip2 -d + patch -p1 -b --suffix .redhat -s /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.85517: patch: command not found Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.85517 (%prep) but the other error would be great to know the reason for... many thanks and kindest regards Frank Perth WA -- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'.
Re: [newbie] Installing Quake 3 Arena on Linux Mandrake. How?
Or you can just run sh linuxq3ademo-1_11-6_x86_gz.sh (without the quotes) from a command prompt. I would change the permissions to executable, myself, but this is another option if for some reason you can't do the chmod or are uncomfortable doing so. Jay Michael D. Viron wrote: Martijn, First, please try not to post htmlized e-mails to the list as some e-mail clients will show all kinds of extra html stuff, the font will be too small to easily read, the font will be grayed out, or some combination of the three. To answer the question, do an ls -al linuxq3ademo-1_11-6_x86_gz.sh, and check to make sure it does have execute (x) permission. If it doesn't (which is what it sounds like), do a chmod 755 linuxq3ademo-1_11-6_x86_gz.sh (without the quotes) from a command prompt, and then try to run it. As for what .sh means, typically that is used for shell scripts (or possibly an install script). Michael -- Michael Viron Senior Systems Administration Consultant Web Spinners, University of West Florida At 05:20 PM 05/28/2001 +0200, Martijn de Keizer wrote: Hi all, I am sorry for this question, because you must get it every couple of days or so. One of the games that should work well with Linux should be Quake III. I downloaded the file: linuxq3ademo-1_11-6_x86_gz.sh How to proceed? Linux does not seem to be able to execute it. What does the *.sh extension mean? Thanks, MArtijn, Amsterdam, The Netherlands PS I do not have a 3d card, but installed OPenGl drivers anyway, under WIN 2000 that did the job. -- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update fails every time
I use Mandrake Update as a reference tool only. It has never once removed the previously existing version of anything I have updated. What I do is open a terminal window and login as su, then run Mandrake Update to see what needs an upgrade; I open a browser window and go to whichever mirror Mandrake Update is looking at; download the rpm's and go to my su terminal. There I do an rpm -Uvh on the new rpms. This updates them properly, and you get usable feedback if there are conflicts or dependency problems rather than the terse update failed message that Mandrake Update gives too often. After doing the manual installs, go back to Mandrake Update and tell it to update the package list; the ones just installed will no longer be on the list. I've tried the rpm --rebuilddb command and it makes no difference, because if the older rpms are still there Mandrake Update won't notice the new ones. It looks at the oldest version currently installed. I wish I could take credit for coming up with this procedure, but I had the same problem when I first started using Mandrake and another kind list member clued me in to the limitations of the Update program. Jay Civileme wrote: You need to remove the resources you do not want to use from the lists if you want the update to work properly. Then you must specify the external source precisely. There are very few updates available as yet, but I would suspect that if it is aaying already installed on packages defnitely not there, then rpm --rebuilddb from a command line in a terminal window, logged as superuser, migth make all the differnce. If you really want to update, I recommend you use software manager to REMOVE the files that will be updated, then in a separate process, to install the new files. In some areas, rpmdrake/software manager is still very much bleeding-edge. As far as WinNT comparisons, hmmm. I wasn't aware that you could update 2000+ packages over the web with it. Civileme On Saturday 26 May 2001 06:02, Alex Potter wrote: Each time I try to update my installation, rpmdrake fails, saying the packages already exists. The installable files shown in the updates only list are all newer versions than those installed. Is there any way of forcing this program (Software Manager) to *update* rather than just perform an install? Or is it back to the command line to download/update the individual packages? TIA Alex So far, I must say, I'm not overly impressed with Linux (Mandrake 8.0), having come from a Windows NT environment, with 15 years computing experience. -- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'.
Re: [newbie] kppp
I found that kppp would not even hang up the phone line unless I shut down the machine. I couldn't get gnome's ppp client to work at all; now I'm using xISP and all is good in the world. Jay Bill Winegarden wrote: Hi, My son logged off his account without stopping kppp. A few minutes later I logged into my account and found that it was still active. Is there a way to ensure that kppp halts on any users logout? Thanks, Bill W. -- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'.
[newbie] Numlock in X : solved!!
Paul wrote:
It was quite simple:
In .xinitrc add:
# Start-up stuff from ~/Desktop/Autostart directory, if it exists
# (as it seems to be the new standard)
if [ -d $HOME/Desktop/Autostart ]; then
for i in `ls -1 ${HOME}/Desktop/Autostart/ 2/dev/null`; do
if [ -x $HOME/Desktop/Autostart/$i ]; then
$HOME/Desktop/Autostart/$i
fi
done
fi
That's all :)
Paul
That did it!
Many thanks to all who gave me ideas, most gracious thanks to Paul who
actually gave me the winning answer.
Jay
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There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'.
Re: [newbie] Re: Retain MBR (reload GRUB?)
philomena wrote: How about posting what is in your menu.lst - maybe its not booting from the proper kernel image ?? philomena At 10:38 PM 4/26/01 -0400, Jay DeKing wrote: OK, so I logged in as root, ran /boot/grub/install.sh (after making sure that menu.lst was correct) - I still get stage1 Read Error. Ask and you shall receive! Here it is, my menu.lst file (which did work correctly until I had to format the Win98 drive): timeout 5 color black/cyan yellow/cyan i18n (hd1,0)/boot/grub/messages keytable (hd1,0)/boot/us.klt altconfigfile (hd1,0)/boot/grub/menu.once default 4 title linux kernel (hd1,0)/boot/vmlinuz-secure root=/dev/hdb1 hdg=ide-scsi hdd=ide-floppy vga=788 title linux-up kernel (hd1,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1 hdg=ide-scsi hdd=ide-floppy title failsafe kernel (hd1,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1 hdg=ide-scsi hdd=ide-floppy failsafe title hack kernel (hd1,0)/boot/vmlinuz-hack root=/dev/hdb1 hdg=ide-scsi hdd=ide-floppy vga=788 initrd (hd1,0)/boot/initrd-hack.img title windows root (hd0,0) map (0x81) (0x80) map (0x80) (0x81) makeactive chainloader +1 And my device.map file: (fd0) /dev/fd0 (hd0) /dev/hda (hd1) /dev/hdb (hd2) /dev/hde The expected GRUB message (from /boot/grub/messages) doesn't pop up on the screen when I boot. The normal BIOS operations run fine, but at the point where the computer looks for a boot device the message 'stage1 Read Error' appears unless there is a floppy inserted. Thanks, Jay DeKing -- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'.
Re: [newbie] Re: Retain MBR (reload GRUB?)
OK, so I logged in as root, ran /boot/grub/install.sh (after making sure that menu.lst was correct) - I still get stage1 Read Error. What am I missing here? GRUB ran fine when I installed Mandrake 7.2, then I had a Win98 disaster and had to completely format hda1. Linux is on hdb. I should think that there would be a way to get GRUB working again without reinstalling Mandrake. Here is how my drives are set up: hda is Win98, partitioned into two 15gig drives; hdb is 40gigs, Mandrake 7.2, split up into /, /home, /usr, /var, and swap; hde is also Win98, partitioned into two 15gig drives. 100 gigs of space and I'm booting off a floppy. Sheesh. Jay philomena wrote: the file is actually in /boot/grub, and is called install.sh - just run it from the command line and grub will be installed. The grub info grub uses is in the file menu.lst - take a look at that and make sure it points to the proper partitions. cheers, philomena -- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'.
[newbie] Re: Supermount problems
Hmm, I didn't mention my cd-roms. But, I do have a problem with the one that's a burner; if I try to access it my machine locks up. Hard. The only way to break out of it is a cold boot (power switch). Civileme tried to help me with it but I never did get it to work. As far as the fd* entries in /dev, there are a lot of them. I only have one floppy, and it's called /mnt/floppy, linked to /dev/fd0. It is the only device attached to the floppy bus, so you would think that fd0 would be correct. The fstab entry for the floppy and zip are as follows: /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0 /mnt/zip /mnt/zip supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/zip 0 0 /dev/zip is a link to hdd4. Is that correct? I know that the zip drive is connected to the EIDE bus at hdd, but why would it be hdd4? Thanks Jay But the other thing to do is check your symlinks. Make sure the devices are linked properly. I know there is an issue with burners not linking properly. By any chance is one of these cd-roms a burner? A quick way to check for this is to look in your /dev directory and ls -l cdrom* If you see cdrom, cdrom1, and cdrom2, then that's likely a problem. For example, I have my DVD player as master of my second IDE and my burner as slave on the second IDE. Therefore I deleted my bad links (rm /dev/cdrom*) and created new ones: ln -s hdc cdrom ln -s scd0 cdrom1 I then updated /etc/fstab changing all references of cdrom2 to cdrom1. I removed cdrom2 from /mnt and created /mnt/cdrom1. Then I was good to go. Maybe that's the issue you are having with your cdroms. I have never owned a zip drive so I have no idea of how they are supposed to be set up. But if you know how it should look, make sure it is linked properly as well. If the link is bad, you will get that EXACT error that you are having. That is what it would say to me until I fixed my cdrom links. Hope that helps. Write again with more detail if this doesn't fix the problem. -- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'.
[newbie] Re: [expert] Supermount problems
Todd Flinders wrote: I cannot access my zip or floppy drives, even when logged in as root. The message I get is "input/output error." While researching this issue, the only hint I found was "try a different disk, you probably have a bad one in the drive." But, the floppy is a Mandrake boot disk, created in Mandrake 7.2; I use it to boot my machine (GRUB problem with hda, subject of another post) and it works fine. When I do an ls -l of the /mnt directory, both the floppy and zip are shown as having a size of 0. Clues, anybody? By the way, I did add myself to the floppy group, and there is *no* zip group listed. Hoping this post doesn't bounce back like my previous attempt, Jay DeKing Try adding yourself to the cdrom and zip groups. --- Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a ppa zip drive and 2 cdroms setup with supermount. Only root is able to mount them. How do I correct this so that I, as a user, can mount the zip and cdroms? -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] problems with MandrakeUpdate
OK, sounds fair enough, but my question is this: why does MandrakeUpdate tell me that I do not have the current version of rpm(x) even though I know that I do? If I download and install the latest version, it bombs out because it is already installed! I do run "update list" after every install, and have updated the rpm database from the command line as well. Note that this does not happen with every rpm, but the ones it does happen with do it every time. Regardez, Jay DeKing Salvatore Eric Indiogine wrote: MandrakeUpdate in MDK 7.2 is buggy. This is my persnal way of using it. I use it to tell me what to update and check for special instructions for install, then I open two terminals. In one I ftp the the site that MandrakeUpdate reads from. In the other I do rmp -Uvh manually for each downloaded rpm. Often I do update list in MandrakeUpdate and do this until the list is empty. Bottom line: do NOT use MandrakeUpdate to update, but use it to find the ftp sites, choose the rpms and check your progress.
