Re: [newbie]
At 10:54 AM 2/13/00 EST, you wrote: I haven't looked lately..BUT...could Mandrake staff please put in BIG BOLD LETTERS."check the archives before submitting problems". Yuck. You could browse the archives of a high volume list like this for weeks and still not find anything similar toyour question/problem, and it might nevertheless be in there. Nobody wants to turn a simple question into a week's heavy research. Maybe what's really needed is a FAQ. A way to *boolean search* the archive might do in the interim. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] Submenu links in kde
At 12:21 PM 2/13/00 -0500, you wrote: When I run kde, I have my little bar on the side that I can put icons in and that the big k submenu is in. What I'd like to do is add an icon up there that when I click on it pops out. In this submenu I want to put links to folders on my hd(instead of having the links clutter my desktop). Anyone have any ideas? Try making a folder somewhere, populating it with symlinks to the targets you're interested in, and dropping the folder (or a .kdelnk for it) on the kpanel. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [Re: [newbie] what web browser do you all use?]
At 05:26 AM 2/10/00 -0600, you wrote: Agree wholeheartedly with Vic. Windows is "glitzier" than Linux, at least for now, but stability is the "driver" for me. Unfortunately, there do seem to be ease-of-use issues with Linux, X, and KDE. A few K apps have quirks/warts and a couple have actual bugs; non-KDE-aware X apps almost invariably have quirks or warts (e.g. the GIMP is conspicuously missing any online help, and has a few other interface oddities). Console commands mostly have man pages, but a few do not, and others are broken/missing information/actually misleading. (E.g., "man locate" doesn't say anything about what command is used to refresh the database, which it should; fortunately the command in question was mentioned in this capacity on this list recently. "man rpm" seems to be completely muddled/confused/confusing about what command to use to build stuff from source RPMs. Someone I emailed pretty much implied that one of the command lines in that man page is simply wrong.) It is easier (or at least more productive in the long run) to add features to a stable OS, than it is to try to bring stability to a feature-rich OS that verges on being neurotic g with its freezes crashes. True. Hopefully improved ease-of-use is top priority with Linux. Certainly Linux has come a long way in EOU in the last year, and came a long way the previous year as well. Unfortunately it has a long way to go. KDE certainly helps, by bringing a modern graphical interface that adheres to the same familiar behavior Windows and Mac users have gotten used to and which are now the de facto industry standard behaviors for graphical apps, and by imposing that interface on KDE-aware apps. Unfortunately, the KDE app base is still rather small, and the areas of building stuff from sources, installing, and uninstalling things need a heck of a lot of work -- I've seen lots of KDE binary packages whose install scripts don't respect the $KDEDIR environment variable and assume your KDE is in some particular place, often /opt/kde, when most people appear to have it in /usr... The only safe way to ensure it works is $KDEDIR. And I've seen a lot of packages that seem to be incomplete, especially in the case of missing documentation, or that have broken dependencies. For example, I went to install Ktranslator for Kdevelop to use. It puked, claiming to need libjpeg.so.6. I thought that was odd, being sure I already had libjpeg; maybe I needed to upgrade libjpeg. I got a libjpeg RPM for version 6 and tried to install that, and apparently it clashes with a *more recent version* (6.5mdk, IIRC) on my system. So the KTranslator dependency is wrong -- it should be libjpeg.so.6 *or later*. I forced it to install without dependency checking, and eventually ran into other KDE apps (notably the game Kjewel) with the same problem, expecting you to have EXACTLY version 6 of that very library, and not a newer one... Packages like that that specify an exact version and not merely a minimum version for something are very unfriendly, because when a newer version of whatever it is comes out, as is inevitable especially in the open-source world, people start having to use --nodeps to install the package, and forcing newbies to use --nodeps to work around somebody else's shortsightedness is IMO a very bad idea. Oh, yes: Did the upgrade from MDK 6.1 to 7.0 without a hitch, except that I have the Linux-Mandrake "welcoming" page...What can I edit to get rid of that? :) Just change Netscrap's home page setting. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _____ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] Open Ports (Again, sorry)
At 12:18 AM 2/11/00 +, you wrote: After a post saying, open /etc/hosts.deny, and comment out any unwanted services, I did this and it worked fine. But I had to do a reinstall and I again, I find my system open to services I don't want it to be :( So, I opened /etc/hosts.deny but there are no services listed. Are there any other files I can use to close these connections (FTP, POP3, Auth)? Thanks for any help You sure hosts.deny is the right file? I think it's inetd.conf... -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] Financial Freedom and Success
At 04:02 PM 2/11/00 +, you wrote: I don't believe it. I've been on this list for 4 hours and got the first piece of Spam. Please tell me this isn't a regular occurance! As a matter of fact it is not. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie]
At 09:01 AM 2/10/00 +0100, you wrote: subscribe newbie Hmm. I can understand the odd person posting an unsubscribe here mistakenly, instead of to the -request or -owner address (whichever it is). But subscribe requests? I mean, obviously, from the message being here, you're already subscribed, so attempting to subscribe again seems rather pointless. :-) Unless being "double subscribed" makes the listserv twice as fast for you or some other little obscure undocumented feature like that :-) -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
RE: [newbie] 3com Ethernet 10baseT good for cablemodem?
At 10:09 AM 2/10/00 +0200, you wrote: Dep. ? Netafim Magal. ?? -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
[newbie] List hiccup
In the past three minutes, my inbox suddenly filled with a flood of 87 newbie list messages. There are two problems here. 1. The list got "blocked" or some pipeline "clogged". 2. When it unclogged, the system dumped all the e-mail in one big wad instead of splitting it up and spoon-feeding it. My ISP must'e suddenly received at least one multimegabyte data transfer, or perhaps (worse) a sudden burst of 87 sendmail connections. This could have seriously interrupted the mail service on a smaller ISP. And it might have raised some sysadmin's eyebrows at mine. Especially after the Yahoo DoS attack recently. Suggestion to list admins: 1. Try to make sure the list doesn't get "blocked". Ever. 2. If this is inevitable even if it can be made quite rare, please have the resulting backlogs sent in batches of a certain maximum size. Say 20 messages at a time. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ ____| Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] Log file question
At 02:03 PM 2/9/00 -0800, you wrote: Well what ipchains rule concerning ICMP can I implement to thwart such attacks? If I knew what an "ipchains rule" was, I might be able to help you, but unfortunately I don't. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
[newbie] fuser
Someone tells me "fuser" is a standard *nix command to find out what processes have a given file open. It doesn't seem to exist. What gives? -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] Sound card/Modem/CDROM installation
That Lucent modem is a winmodem. Fortunately Lucent has released open source linux drivers for it. Check their Web site out. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [[newbie] LiLo set up]
At 04:49 AM 2/10/00 EST, you wrote: Then linux is set up as your default OS. When the lilo prompt comes up, hit the tab button... RTFOP (read the f@! original post) -- the prompt *never came up* on the guy's system! He pretty much said that right out. Geesh. Everyone in the universe jumps to conclusions based on line 1 of a usenet post or mailing list post, except me. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] RE: your mail
At 10:08 AM 2/10/00 -, you wrote: use vi, type vi filename at a command prompt, useful commands are: :write - to save :quit - to quit :quit! - to force quit btw. you will probably hate it :) Shame on you, suggesting than a new user use vile and then giving an inadequate warning. I stumbled on vile once on some machine or other where I had a shell account. Yugh. It doesn't work the way you'd expect (for example, you can't open the file, arrow around, and type new text; as near as I can tell it opens all files in a read-only mode and expects a command to be issued to change it) and there's no help to be had hitting F1 and no helpful status line on the screen telling you what key you should hit for documentation -- bad interface design, since the interface should work the way people are used to (e.g. for an editor, arrow around and type stuff, shift-arrows to select, etc.), and shouldn't require a mini-course from Algonquin or thorough reading of the manual. Manuals/help files are for reference and how-to, not for basic explaining of the interface. I think whoever perpetrated vi was the same idiot who perpetrated Lotus Notes (see http://www.iarchitect.com/mshame.html IIRC -- if that's 404, try just http://www.iarchitect.com and click the nice icon of a bomb ;-)). PICO, on the other hand, is an okay shell editor. If it's not on your system, you'll probably find it on rpmfind.net somewhere under 'p'. Kedit, of course, works in a way that should be familiar to users of modern graphical systems like 'doze and MacOS. Except for a quirk in that it seems to clobber the clipboard spuriously sometimes, especially if you select something -- meaning if you do the usual "select in window A, hit ctrl-C, switch to window B, select some old crud, and hit ctrl-V to replace the old crud with the stuff from window B" it won't work in kedit or the derivative kwrite :-( -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] Mailing list server
At 05:32 PM 2/10/00 +0700, you wrote: Dear Linuxers, I have tried several times BeroList mailing list server but I always failed to activate it. I wonder if there is another mailing list server software (other than BeroList) that more user friendly. Or where can I download/get BeroList manuals ? Thanks for help. I can't help more, because I don't know what the f@! a BeroList is. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] Log file question
At 08:26 PM 2/8/00 -0800, you wrote: Well, i added the IP to my list of "input DENY" files, Could that have gotten through? None of my WinXX boxes went down, and if it did get though would the WinXX box blue screen or just crash apps.? TIA ICMP attacks can do a lot of things, including simply tricking dial-up networking (in 'doze) into disconnecting. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [Re: [newbie] what web browser do you all use?]
At 09:20 AM 2/9/00 -0500, you wrote: nope. that's not what i claim. however, from my experience and EVERYONE ELSE i know who regularly uses M$, it is highly improbable that any M$ installation could ever be called 'stable', 'reliable' or 'dependable'. [much deletia] I agree with you so far! until... and this is why, despite the software that they have produced which works, i cannot stand by M$. ??? Non-sequitur! Imperfection...destroy! Destroy! :-) Seriously: WHAT "software that they have produced which works"? I have never seen any... [Much quoted material deleted] -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] what web browser do you all use?
At 11:25 AM 2/9/00 -0600, you wrote: It does?!?!?!?!?? I have not ever seen nutscrape do that, it just exits and my unix box sits there like---uhh ok. 4.5+ does, at least on 'doze. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [Re: [newbie] what web browser do you all use?]
At 01:03 AM 2/10/00 -0600, you wrote: If anyone reads this, then it should be obvious that this particular piece of software, Microsoft's Outlook Express, does work. Outlook Exploder pseudo-works. Sometimes you might manage to read a few messages and even get one sent off before it decides to crash. Still, I have a strict definition for when software really works... :-) And, while it may be fun and amusing to come up with different spellings, abbreviations, acronyms and so on, does the constant bashing of Microsoft serve any purpose? Are you kidding? It's necessary to ensure nobody forgets or fails to realize how evil Microsoft is, and how unusable and generally cruddy their softgware is... It's a duty and a responsibility for all of us who have seen and experienced what Microsoft and its software does, and have also experienced the alternative. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] what web browser do you all use?
At 01:13 PM 2/7/00 -0500, you wrote: What web browser does everyone use with Linux? I hate to say it, but the main reason I keep booting back to windows every couple hours is because the NS version that comes with Mandrake just totaly blows, and If I want to view any web pages I have got to have a decent browser. Have you tried using the browser built into KDE? kfm, I think, just put an http:// URL in the location box and hit enter. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] screenshots?
At 01:59 PM 2/7/00 -0500, you wrote: its prolly the most simple thing to do, and i have no idea how to do it. how do i do screenshots? thanks in advance. ksnapshot. It's in the K menu under graphics. Also, you can type "ksnapshot" at the konsole. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] what web browser do you all use?
At 02:25 PM 2/7/00 -0500, you wrote: And here is MS's official page on it which actually says IE5 with Outlook5 which would be very nice to see for Linux too. http://www.microsoft.com/unix/ie/default.asp I am growing more nauseous with each message I read in this thread. These M$ apps are so crash-prone it isn't even funny. Running them on linux is like running away from a terrible marriage only to keep having three-night trysts every week with her. :-) At least under linux you can guarantee that the app-fault-of-the-hour won't happen to spread to the OS core and bomb the whole machine, the way it will with one in ten odds on M$ 'doze. You won't get that annoying "This program has performed an illegal operation..." dialog either; the windows will just disappear out from under you, and you'll find in the console or in .xsession-errors the explanation of what happened. :-) -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] Stupid RAM troubles.
At 05:45 PM 2/7/00 -0800, you wrote: OK, i had MDK 6.1 on my syatem a week ago, and in my lilo.conf file i added append="mem=128M" to get all my 128M of RAM supported. But now with MDK 7, this does crap, and I still get 64Ms at boot. Running Netscape and other things all at once *deserve* all my RAM, but i just cant get it supported. What is one to do? How do i get ALL my RAM supported?? Maybe MDK 7.0 overwrite lilo.conf; see if that line is missing and if so, re-add it. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] setting the time
At 07:47 AM 2/8/00 -0500, you wrote: If you are on the 'Net, su to root and try rdate -sp time.nist.gov That should do it. Or put it in the crontab. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] :)
At 01:59 PM 2/7/00 -, you wrote: Also try Amaya, and Opera, I don't know where to find them, but if you do a search on linux.com, slashdot.org, or excite, it should come up with links. http://www.w3.org/amaya for the former... be aware it's experimental software the w3c uses, so may be buggy or lacking polish here and there. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] :)
At 01:59 PM 2/7/00 -, you wrote: Also try Amaya, and Opera, I don't know where to find them, but if you do a search on linux.com, slashdot.org, or excite, it should come up with links. Fran BTW, it's probably not a very good idea to log on and do email as "root" -- security risks you know. :-) -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] what web browser do you all use?
At 01:18 PM 2/8/00 -0500, you wrote: I have never had MS IE5 crash... You must have been charmed or blessed then, or had a priest bestow special blessings on your copy of IE5 when you played a role playing game, or something. After all, I can think of no *rational* explanation for your experiences, given the frequency of IE5 crashing or otherwise misbehaving on most installations. Mine, for example. True, it *does* crash less than IE4 did -- even the IE5 *beta* crashed less. But it is still crash prone like any M$ software. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] what web browser do you all use?
At 04:15 PM 2/8/00 -0500, you wrote: IE may crash every once in a while, but it's a whole whole lot stabilier than Linux's Netscape. That thing crashes about once a hour, whereas IE might crash once a day at most. Someone else with a charmed copy of IE! Interesting, it seems copies might be charmed to differing extent. The other one I've heard about doesn't crash at all, which is especially astonishing. A normal copy of IE5 will crash every few hours if used extensively. More often than merely once a day... Or maybe it's not that your copy is blessed..maybe yours is normal, that other one was blessed, and mine is *cursed*? That would be just my luck. It probably happened when I put in an all-nighter playing ADOM. Sure, it doesn't bring down the whole system when Netscape crashes... ...in linux I assume. In 'doze, Netscrap usually *does* bring down the whole system if it crashes, and yes it does crash frequently in 'doze. I'd take IE over Netscape anyday with it's better features and stability. Yeah... of course... though it's still a Hobson's choice. IE is the lesser of two evils. We're talking worst and second worst. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] what web browser do you all use?
cade or two ago at making a free POSIX-compliant OS, choosing POSIX because apps based on POSIX APIs were already numerous and because the POSIX specification didn't include serious design flaws and encapsulation problems. The result, of course, should be familiar to all of us in this list: Linux. :-) -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] what web browser do you all use?
At 03:50 PM 2/8/00 -0600, you wrote: I think what would really rock is if when an app crashed it would run a small app triggered by the main app's segfault that would take up a bugreport and send it automatically via either e mail or remote ftp per the user's request, making bug reports eaiser Netscrap does this actually. Nothing from M$ does, though, because if it did, the mail server at www.microsoft.com would stop functioning within a day due to the load. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] Log file question
At 04:42 PM 2/8/00 -0800, you wrote: My LogCheck sent this to me, was wondering what exactly the attempt was, any ideas. Security Violations =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Feb 8 16:03:59 scarieville kernel: IP_MASQ:reverse ICMP: failed checksum from 216.68.170.159! Unusual System Events =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Feb 8 16:03:59 scarieville kernel: IP_MASQ:reverse ICMP: failed checksum from 216.68.170.159! Could have been a winnuke attempt. Some winnukes exploit security holes and bugs in 'doze's ICMP network support module; of course, when the losers who sling them land one on a linux box instead of a 'doze box, not only don't they crash their would-be victim's box, they leave nice little fingerprints in the system log file with their IP address written all over it... -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] what web browser do you all use?
At 08:12 PM 2/8/00 -0500, you wrote: In any case, I'll likely be happy with Opera, if it lives up to its Windows version. Shame on you, seriously considering using closed-source stuff *and paying actual money for it, and not just for shipping and distribution media at that*! -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] what web browser do you all use?
At 08:35 PM 2/8/00 -0500, you wrote: Oddly, while I have had any number of complaints about Windows NT since having to use it at work, it has never once completely crashed, and IE has never so much as had a lockup (as Netscape 4.7 does every day, but STILL not as much as earlier versions). I work in an office full of Windows NT, and only once in 7 months have I heard of one crashing... Perhaps it's been improved. :) Maybe the OS doesn't tend to totally hang as much as with Win9x, but the emphasis has simply been changed to app faults and general misbehavior and software not Doing The Right Thing. For example when Micro$not Web Server responds to "GET foobar.html" with "500 Internal Server Error" it just Did The Wrong Thing. Instead of detecting that the request triggered a bug (probably a thread segfaulted and died inside the server) and oh so helpfully telling the user and anyone with a packet sniffer how buggy the server is, it should *not have a bug* :-) -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] Mouse/soundcard/SCSI probs
At 07:49 PM 2/5/00 -0600, you wrote: I just got 7.0 intalled, but no sound or SCSI. If I try to use Lothar, it starts and then the mouse stops responding making it hard to setup. I used developer setup during install. System specs are below Make sure the sound card and mouse aren't on the same IRQ. Use K^ -- Settings -- Information -- Interrupts to check, IIRC. If the mouse and sound card are Plug'n'Pray you might have problems. Oh you can certainly eventually get them working, but it could get hairy. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] Open Ports
At 09:41 PM 2/5/00 -0500, you wrote: Log in as root open etc/inetd.confand comment out the services you dont want too run. You can also configure TCP wrappers to block much. Its good to lock down services you dont need as they can be used to hack into your system Thx, I ought to do that as well. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] set background from command line
At 11:47 PM 2/5/00 -0500, you wrote: Is it possible to set the background image from the command line? I've looked around at xview and the like and can't find it. Maybe I'm just too sleepy to find it but I _know_ it must be there. I'd like to wget radar images from a weather site and have the current weather radar then be my desktop background image. Storm chaser? :-) Heh -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
[newbie] 7.0
Suppose I got a 7.0 disk from some unspecified source. Would I be able to quickly and painlessly upgrade the 6.0 I have, without screwing anything up or losing my data? -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] HP CD-Writer+ 7500
At 12:44 PM 2/6/00 +0100, you wrote: You have to recompile your kernel. You disable support for ide-atapi cdrom and enable the scsi-emulation. Maybe you have also to enable the scsi support for generic scsi cdrom. Once you're done with your kernel and that you have booted your linux with it, type cdrecord -scanbus to see if it recognize it. It should. Ouch. Can't you just load a kernel module for SCSI support? -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive does not power down
At 10:13 AM 2/7/00 +1300, you wrote: Under Windoze, after 20 minutes of idle time, my hard drive would obediently spin-down into a power-saving state. This does not seem to be the case with linux (I have another computer (Redhat) with the same problem.) Bad. Spin-up and spin-down are the real source of wear and tear on fixed disks, not disk writes and reads. Modern floppies are in dustproof dust-gated shock-resistant hard cases. They fail frequently, but HDD's only rarely. Why's this? Some of it is because with HDDs lots of attention goes into quality. But a lot is wear and tear... a floppy spins up and down once each for every time it's mounted. So does a hard drive. But a floppy might get used very frequently, and mounted repeatedly. A hard drive might only power cycle once a week, or even less often, in a desktop box. Even when you reboot, unless it's a full power down and up, the hard disks tend not to spin down and back up. And if treated right, i.e. no messing around with magnets near the box, and such, they work perfectly for years, usually being lost when you upgrade the box instead of because of a crash. But this doesn't apply if it spins up and down regularly. Of course, laptop HDDs are, in higher quality models, probably designed to withstand extra wear and tear to give similar reliability rates in these cases to PC hdds (as measured in terms of mean time between failures). Which leads naturally to... My Mandrake computer is an Acer Extensa 390c notebook, perchased in New Zealand. (Cheap piece of crap) Somehow, I don't think your hdd is specially designed for extra wear and tear imposed by frequent spindown and spinup, let alone changes in orientation while in use. Uh-oh. Most times when a friend or family member complains about a disk crash, it turns out to be in either a used computer or a laptop. In the latter case it's sometimes only a few months old. Maybe an upgrade of your notebook to a higher quality (and unfortunately probably more expensive) model would be good. Until then, make lots of backups... and don't, for heaven's sake, use floppies. :-) I would like to leave it going all the time, but without this hardware-saving feature, I'm reluctant to do so. Battery-saving, actually, and at the expense of the hardware itself, eventually... -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] KDE runs to slow!
At 01:38 PM 2/6/00 -0800, you wrote: I had a succesfull installation of Mandrake 6.0 but KDE runs very slow. It takes 5 min to update each screen, the mouse moves very slow (jumps)and all these symptoms act like there is a huge processing queue (my HD is kranking all the time). That's damned odd. I have a P133/16MB RAM, 500Mb Native and 50Mb Swap area. Oh, that explains everything. P133/16MB RAM ^ ^ | | | `-- You intend to run a GUI with this?! Stick to the command prompt until | you've got at least 32. :-) `-- Ouch. That places your machine squarely in the "desktop calculator" bracket in the CPU pecking order. Try something with a bit more zip to it. 350MHz is probably a good starting place. Take your spending cash for the month, but 48 megs of simms with it, and blow the rest on the fastest AMD chip you can. (AMD, because you'll get a slightly faster AMD chip than you will an Intel chip for the same price, and whereas you can get a conceptually-even-faster Cyrix chip, Cyrix generally sucks the bag, especially on fpu performance, but also on string and integer ops.) -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
RE: [newbie] all windows files are executable?
At 11:55 AM 2/7/00 +1300, you wrote: PS. Backing up a FAT32 partition under Linux is probably a bad idea. As far as I know, there is only read-only support for FAT32, so you may be able to back up, but how will you restore? Are you joking? You can read/write fat32 in Mandrake 6.0 and above. Probably in all recent linux distributions. I often construct a text file of notes to myself in linux, save it with a path that leads into a mounted 'doze partition, and then read it in 'doze later, when I need to refer to list of stuff I've decided I want to download within 'doze for later transfer back to linux. I also regularly work with documents saved on one of the 'doze partitions or another to save the space on the relatively small ext2 partition, which is best used for apps, system files, utilities, and frequently-accessed stuff, or large clusters of very small files, the kinds of things that benefit most from ext2's native speed and compact representation. (Think no cluster wastage.) The default permissions are probably something like rwxr-xr-x, so unless you want non-root users to write to the partition, you will need to change the umask entry in /etc/fstab for that partition Hm. It should be more configurable IMO, so you can specify that only directories off the 'doze drive act executable. I.e. it acts like either -rw-r--r-- or drwxr-xr-x, as appropriate. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] background images - SUCCESS and thank y'all
At 11:02 PM 2/6/00 -0500, you wrote: (just found out the hard way) the path to xloadimage: 31 * * * * /usr/X11R6/bin/xloadimage -onroot etc $ which xloadimage /usr/X11R6/bin/xloadimage $ Interesting what you find when you poke randomly in man pages and other docs. Or read a random shell script from the system and man everything unfamiliar you see in the file that looks like it might be a command or a standard file name. The "which" thing, to find out what exact directory a command on your path is in, is a nice example of a very useful and simple utility totally lacking in MS-DOS. Especially useful when debugging problems that can be caused by having conflicting versions of stuff on the path, i.e. app a needs a newer version of utility b, and an older version of utility b is also on the path -- which will indicate this problem exists and probably even show that the old one is earlier on the path, not to mention indicate where it is lurking so you can rm it or at least mv it off the path. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] background images - SUCCESS and thank y'all
At 11:42 PM 2/6/00 -0500, you wrote: I didn't even know about 'which.' I used " whereis xloadimage " to find WHERE it was. 'Which' is neat. Will have to add that to my list of tricks. whereis?? I didn't know about that :-) There's probably a console utility for that if I just knew the command. " remember 'which' need (l)ater -store /dont-forget" Nah. You can probably make emacs do this. You can probably make a shell script to do this. You can always use a knote or make an associative data web of personal notes in HTML. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
RE: [newbie] KDE runs to slow!
At 07:51 AM 2/7/00 +0200, you wrote: Hi Paul! I have a similar setup on one of my machines and did the following test last night: Yanked out 2 simms so I had only 32mb. Extremely bad performance, heaps of disk thrashing, opening Netscape took yonks and it ran like a dog :-( Put back the simms so I had 64mb. That's because typical usage of KDE means machine running X server is using about 50 megs. If you have less it'll thrash on disk. If you have more, peachy keen. Whereas with Windows, typical usage uses from 100-150megs, and unless you have 192 or 256M you'll thrash regularly! Which do you prefer ;-) KDE isn't bloated. It is honestly not really possible to run a real, modern graphical environment at high resolutions with less than about 50M. It's Windows that's bloated. The various lean mean WMs are WMs, but not full blown desktop environments, so of course they are smaller. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [Re: [[newbie] Modem driver?]]
At 11:01 AM 2/5/00 -0500, you wrote: Paul, Try www.compgeeks.com or www.advancedvision.net . I buy stuff from them all of the time C.O.D Cash on delivery?! Over the Net? Never seen that before. Sounds too good to be true. BTW ComputerGeeks has this nifty Dual Pentium (Socket7) mobo that I'm going to order this weekend, grab one for yourself while you're there. Mobo? -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
[newbie] Getting more than 8bpp from Xfree86?
The system recognizes that I can do more than 8bpp. My XF86Config file lists 8, 16, and 32bpp entries under the "accel" device, which it is using, as the X server version actually in use is XF86_MACH64 or something similar with MACH64 in the name (I have a 4meg video card with the ATI Mach64 chipset and it's sweet). Obviously, it is choosing the 8bpp mode. Apparently, the way to get other bpp is with something like startx -- -bpp 16 or startx -- -bpp 32 but I've grepped my root filesystem upwards, downwards, sideways, and inside-out and can't find where startx is being (automatically) run at startup. I looked in rc, rc.local, rc.sysinit, and inside the rc.5 directory (I *think* starting the X server is runlevel 5 stuff?) in /etc/rc.d, then I tried grepping from "/", and nowhere does startx appear in anything resembling a bootup script. Nor do the afore-mentioned things in the rc.d directory appear to contain anything to do with starting the X server. As near as I can determine, the X server isn't actually being run at startup, and while I type at a root console I hallucinate the KDE :-) -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [Re: [[newbie] Modem driver?]]
At 11:55 AM 2/5/00 -0800, you wrote: BTW, i think you`ll be better off with DSL in the long run b/c you wont have to share your bandwith w/ your neighbors when they get cable in 6 months. Cable is like 100MBps, DSL isn't much faster than 56K modems, last I heard. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [[newbie] Getting more than 8bpp from Xfree86?]
At 03:56 PM 2/5/00 EST, you wrote: When booting, type "linux 3" at the boot prompt. This will boot linux w/o x. The type "startx --16" or whichever you want. I know. But it will boot linux w/o a lot of stuff, not just X. Besides, it would be nice to have it boot straight to a 24 bit login prompt :-) So where the devil is the startx being run from in the boot sequence? Just point me to the file, something like /etc/foo/bar/baz.sh. I'll do the rest. :-) -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [Re: [[newbie] Modem driver?]]
Yes, I though that there would never be such a thing as COD on the net, but I have spent many a dollar with the two vendors I listed. Paul, Try www.compgeeks.com or www.advancedvision.net . I buy stuff from them all of the time C.O.D Thx! -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [[newbie] Modem driver?]
At 04:54 AM 2/3/00 EST, you wrote: I don't think this modem is supported in linux. HCF, I believe, is a type of software or "winmodem". I hope I'm wrong, but if I'm not, try an external. You'll be glad you did. Can you get 56K's cheap on the net, that have good data quality and stability? -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
[newbie] On my Mandrake 6.0 box...
...I can make a "template" file read-only to myself (to discourage accidental edits or deletions of the template), and then rename it without doing the rename as root! Is this normal? :-) I get EACCES or exceptions trying to actually modify it, of course, as should be... -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
[newbie] Four oddball events with KDE
Firstly, on two occasions I had the X server "stop seeing" the keyboard, forcing me to save stuff and log off (using the mouse only -- tedious!) and "restart X server". Eventually I tracked it down to being caused when I attempt, in my normal user account, to obtain a KFE with root privileges using kdesu. Strange. Secondly, I was unexpectedly dumped to the KDM logic dialogue once, without warning or apparent cause; fortunately, either I had no unsaved data or the normal session close procedure occurred despite the obviously abnormal nature of the login termination. No, I don't *think* I had done anything unusual in the root console just beforehand to my other userid... Thirdly, the k icon editor actually locked up the X server, forcing a cold boot and causing some data loss (neither ctrl-alt-bksp nor ctrl-alt-del worked). It started to spawn little dialogue boxes about some sort of assert in an infinite loop. As a testament to the stability of the underlying systems, the errant app had to spawn in the vicinity of 500 or 600 of the things before the X server bought it -- and it never swapped once. I actually saw something similar happen in Windows once -- an errant app decided what I meant when I tried to open a single file was to sequentially open the ~40 or 50 files in the same directory with it. Windows died in a very atrocious way at about the twentieth window open... Fourthly -- how the heck do I configure 24bpp again? I had it at 24bpp originally, but it spontaneously dropped to 8 one day and I can't find anything that configures it -- I thought maybe something called "xconfigurator" I'd seen mentioned somewhere, but no dice, it's absent on my system. I figured maybe the KDE control panel replaces that, but it has no settings for video resolution and other such boot options, unless maybe they're in that root-only panel that I *think* is merely for configuring the KDE login prompt... -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ ____| Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] how to delete Linux partition
At 03:21 PM 2/3/00 +0100, you wrote: Here is how I would do : type fdisk /mbr at a DOS prompt to delete lilo and make your computer automaticaly load windows, then boot with a linux CD (I usualy use the slackware70 CD to do this, but you can use any CD that has a live system on it) and, once in linux, use fdisk to turn your ext2 partition into a vfat partition. Then use windows to format the partition you just freed. And why the hell would anyone want to do this? ;-) -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
[newbie] A Day in the Life... 1
Today. I got my sound card working in linux, compiled a sample C++ program to verify the compiler worked, and later compiled a more elaborate, though still small (1 source file and no OO stuff except iostreams) tool to manage some Web related stuff for me. Experimented somemore with GIMP and made a cool "made with Kwrite" button for putting on Web pages -- check out http://members.xoom.com/derbyshire16/ sometime after an hour from now. Also installed a bunch of useful stuff -- in order of importance starting with the most -- xfractint, Amaya, and a Java runtime. Say, any clue why a "hello, world" console app in C++ that works perfectly in gdb produces no visible output in the console, but exits normally there too? If I send the message to cerr, it behaves just as strangely. All it is is a main wrapper for "cout "Hello, World!" endl;" -- I added a flush in there in case the endl isn't enough to flush the stream (nor the app exit) on this system, but that had no effect. Meanwhile, a more complex utility program I wrote (about 100-200 LOC, with iostreams and some filesystem and system calls, notably a bunch of cp's and touches and mkdirs) works perfectly, including the standard output and standard error. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _____ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] install problems
Re: your concerns about needing to fumble with a floppy if you install Linux on a separate partition, don't worry. Mandrake installs a boot menu called "lilo" into the boot sector of your boot disk. Instead of the Windoze banner at startup,you'll see a boot prompt "lilo boot:" and can enter "linux" or "dos" at it -- the latter will give you the familiar banner, the former will give you lots of colorful text messages scrolling up the screen, and not much later, the KDE desktop. :-) Re: Lnx4Win -- forget it. In the long term it's better to get a new partition and format it with the ext2 filesystem. Linux will be very much faster and more efficient that way. Make a swap partition too. Make it 4x the size of your memory -- my machine has 64 megs of RAM, so I made a 256 meg swap partition. Re: installing -- try putting the CD-ROM in your drive and rebooting the machine. Some modern computer BIOSes allow booting from the CD-ROM, and the Mandrake CD has a boot sector on it, so if you have a recent BIOS, you'll boot right into a Mandrake installer complete with partition editing tool. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _____ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
[newbie] Modem driver?
I located my modem at IRQ 3, address 0x02f8, ttyS1. Unfortunately, it is perpetually "busy" to kppp and minicom, on trying to use it, can't talk sense to it apparently. I checked, and it's a dreaded "host-controlled" modem, nearly as bad as a Winmodem. (I didn't choose it; it came preinstalled by the computer OEM, along with, naturally, Windows 98). Anyone know where drivers for these can be found? Rockwell's site is a maze that will turn any sane man into a lunatic in minutes... It's a Rockwell HCF 56K internal modem. It has fax and voice stuff on it, but I don't care about getting those working -- data would be fine. I tried the "+H0" in the init string that turns off error correction and flow control, having read in a HOWTO somewhere that some Rockwell host controlled modems just offload these functions to software -- a rough surf would be better than no surf. Apparently, it doesn't work with this modem. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ ____| Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: [newbie] Help Downloading
Sounds like getright is an FTP client that lets you download in sessions? Where can it be downloaded from? Also, if you download the 7.0 image, can you save it on the hard disk on a 'doze partition somewhere (I have easily 2 gigs free on my C: 'doze partition) and then access it and trigger the install in an existing, older Mandrake (say, 6.0) session, after of course mounting the 'doze partition with the image file? if so how? -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -()circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ | Paul Derbyshire Programmer Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
