[NTG-context] TUG 2024: Hàn Thế Thành talk just now

2024-07-21 Thread luigi scarso
https://www.youtube.com/c/texusersgroup
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[NTG-context] TUG meeting live

2024-07-19 Thread luigi scarso
https://youtube.com/c/texusersgroup

Live from today until sunday
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[NTG-context] Building OpenType math fonts

2024-07-18 Thread luigi scarso
https://github.com/notofonts/math/blob/main/documentation/building-math-fonts/index.md

by Khaled Hosny

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[NTG-context] Zed editor

2024-07-15 Thread luigi scarso
https://zed.dev/

It supports Tree-sitter.

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[NTG-context] https://behdad.org/text2024/

2024-07-08 Thread luigi scarso
https://behdad.org/text2024/

A lot of stuff.

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[NTG-context] Re: Japanese

2024-03-15 Thread luigi scarso
[probably off-topic , my apologies ]
For a project in my spare time (i.e. no deadlines)
I am collecting all kind of info I can find on the net (so free/non free
fonts, books , specs, images raster /vectorial..whatever)   on the
Kaiti (楷体) or “Regular style”
https://fonts.google.com/knowledge/type_in_china_japan_and_korea/type_classification_in_cjk_chinese

Any help would be greatly appreciated; there are no secrets, so we can use
this ml or write to me privately, as you prefer.

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[NTG-context] Re: Japanese

2024-02-29 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 at 20:53, Emanuel Han via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> Thank you all for your suggestions and contributions to the wiki.
>
> I don't intend to nag, but when looking at what ConTeXt is producing, I
> need to state that the result is still far away from a properly typeset
> Japanese text.
>
> So the nihongo script which comes with ConTeXt handles *line breaks /
> line wrapping*. But the line break rules defined in it need a rework,
> because they don't follow the standards. The standards are documented here:
> https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#possibilities_for_linebreaking_between_characters
> , and all affected characters are listed here:
> https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/tables/table_en3.pdf
>
> We have different rules, depending what kind of character is surpassing
> the text width (or is in its last position).
>
> Rule 1:
>
> Before closing brackets, closing quotation marks, iteration marks, the
> Prolonged sound mark and small Kana, line breaking is prohibited.
>
> ’”)〕]}〉》」』】ヽヾゝゞ々ーぁぃぅぇぉァィゥェォっゃゅょッャュョ etc.
>
> The actual programmed behaviour by the nihongo script is that, if in the
> position which exceeds the line width,  these characters jump to the next
> line and take the previous character with them. If they're in the last
> position of the line, they stay where they are. This behaviour is correct.
>
> Rule 2:
>
> After opening Brackets and opening quotation marks, line breaking is
> prohibited (but not before).
>
> ‘“(〔[{〈《「『【
>
> The actual programmed behaviour by the nihongo script is that these
> characters jump to the next line and take the previous character with them.
> This behaviour is wrong. They should jump to the next line without taking
> the previous character with them, just like any regular character. The
> difference to a regular character is that they jump already when still
> within the line length, and they're in the last position of the line. The
> correct behaviour can be seen in LibreOffice Writer in action.
>
> Rule 3:
>
> Comma (tōten), full width comma, full stop
>
> 、,。
>
> The actual programmed behaviour by the nihongo script is that, if in the
> position which exceeds the line width, these characters jump to the next
> line and take the previous character with them. This behaviour is wrong.
> They have to be put back to the end of the previous line, but beyond the
> specified line length. (JIS Z 8125) (Search for "Line adjustment by hanging
> punctuation" under https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/ )
> If they're in the last position of the line, they stay where they are. The
> correct behaviour can be seen in LibreOffice Writer in action.
>
> Rules 4, 5, ...:
>
> Combinations of inseparable characters... (see
> https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#possibilities_for_linebreaking_between_character
> ) and eventually more, which I didn't test.
>
> It might be useful to define three scripts nihongo_loose, nihongo_strict
> and nihongo_very_strict which each implement one of the 3 cases described
> here: https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#addendum_a
>
> According the *line gap* (Otared uses \setupwhitespace[big], which is
> exceeding common line gaps), I'd like to quote from
> https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/ :
>
> *It is common that the line gap for the kihon-hanmen is set to a value
> between half-em spacing and the one em spacing of the character frame used
> for the kihon-hanmen. Half-em spacing can be chosen in cases where the line
> length is short, but one em spacing or close to it is more appropriate when
> the line length is longer than 35 characters.*
>
> I like the standard line gap which is provided by ConTeXt, which is
> equivalent to \setupwhitespace*[0pt]*. Even when using ruby, it works
> well. I found the best voffset for ruby to be -1.7ex.
>
> The *line adjustment* provided by ConTeXt by default is not meeting the
> needs for Japanese  (and Chinese) text, which follow a grid pattern.
> Especially the last line of a paragraph is squeezed, which is "hurting the
> eye".
>
> When characters need to jump to the next line due to previously discussed
> line breaking rules, ConTeXt seems to apply "Line adjustment by
> inter-character spacing expansion", which is a valid method according to
> https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#line_adjustment , although "Line adjustment
> by inter-character spacing reduction" is preferred.
>
> The last point which ConTeXt is missing, when talking about Japanese
> typesetting, is vertical writing.
>
> I know, this is a lot of work. Hopefully we can achieve with joint efforts
> to make ConTeXt Japanese ready.
>
> If I happen to have made false statements, please accept my apology. I
> tried to be of help as far as I could. I grew up in Japan and know more or
> less how typeset text should look like.
>
> Emanuel
>
>
It would be nice if you can put your notes above into
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Chinese_Japanese_and_Korean
or in general improve/maintain that page
(e.g. the links about the fonts are broken at the moment)
Perhaps with 

[NTG-context] LuaTeX 1.18.0

2024-02-21 Thread luigi scarso
The upcoming version 1.18.0 has some changes that are not compatible with
previous versions but should only apply in kpse mode:

1) the debug library is disabled; can be enabled with --luadebug

2) os.rename os.remove and lfs library functions are checked
from kpse to see if the path is legal

I'm sure some packages that use debug won't work without --luadebug at
least.

LuaLaTeX should be ok, and also ConTeXt mkiv should be ok.


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[NTG-context] Re: upload

2024-02-15 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 at 13:47, Hans Hagen  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> as we're around texlive code freeze time we're also in upload mode
>
> - i uploaded a new lmtx
> - i also added linux and windows 32 bin (as it seems to have users)
>
> - we're now using lua 5.5 which has one restriction (was already
> announced a while ago):

hm, I don't see lua 5.5 around ... perhaps Lua 5.4.5 ?

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[NTG-context] Re: Using plain TeX commands in ConTeXt

2024-01-24 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 16:55, Shiv Shankar Dayal <
shivshankar.da...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for correcting me, Wolfgang. I meant only TeX commands not plan TeX
> macros.
>
>
TeX primitives ?

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[NTG-context] Re: context version 20240118 (was: "Registerhaltigkeit")

2024-01-18 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 at 13:00, Thomas Meyer  wrote:

> What is going on?
>
> Yesterday I got a perfect on-grid-written document!
> But today, with the newest context-version (20240118) all changed for the
> worse.
>
> I may not get a reply to this e-mail either!
>
>
> Am 17.01.24 um 20:57 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
>
> Got it.
>
> Was it with a huge attachment (> 100KB)?
In this case I could have rejected it .

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[NTG-context] Re: After Compiling the Context test, there was no PDF.

2024-01-16 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 12:49, Shiv Shankar Dayal <
shivshankar.da...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please paste line no. 238 of your input file.
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 4:11 PM Ursula Hermann <
> ursula.herm...@univie.ac.at> wrote:
>
>> Dear List,
>>
>>
>>
>> After Compiling in the Folder:
>>
>>
>>
>> This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.10.11 initex
>>
>> (C:/Users/Hermann/Downloads/context-mswin/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkxl/cont-
>> en.mkxl(context.mkxl(syst-ini.mkxl
>> ! Undefined control sequence.
>> 
>>   \immutable\defcsname\tocharacter
>>   \tabasciicode  \endcsname {\ } % \def\^^I{\ } tab
>>
>
maybe I am wrong, but this looks like an error of  syst-ini.mkxl
around line 3238
(I cannot update now )

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[NTG-context] Limit of the size of the email message is 100KB.

2024-01-15 Thread luigi scarso
Hi all,
the ml has (as always as far as I can remember) the limit of 100KB
for  the maximum size of the message.
I have noticed that lately several messages are over the limit, and all I
can do
is write to the sender and discard the message,   and this could happen a
couple of days later
the message has been received.

So...just stay within the limit, if you can.


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[NTG-context] Modernizing Parametric type design A case study of Nupuram Malayalam typeface

2023-11-04 Thread luigi scarso
https://typoday.in/spk_papers/Santhosh_Thottingal_Typoday2023.pdf
and
https://twitter.com/santhoshtr/status/1577596445917470722

Long live to metapost &  metafont
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[NTG-context] Re: list of modules: need changes/testing/response

2023-08-31 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 at 20:18, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

> Hi all, esp. module authors!
>
> I went through the list of modules on https://modules.contextgarden.net/
> (dl/) and the list that controls module installation for “--script
> install-modules".
>
> I removed all font-related modules from the list (not yet from the
> garden), since they’re probably all obsolete & outdated.
> Consider publishing typescripts in the wiki.
>
>
> The following modules don’t adhere to the necessary structure and need
> changes:
> * t-handlecsv (2023, Pablo)
> * metaducks (2021, Jairo)
> * presvoz (2023, Pablo)
> All of them have a name directory on top of the TDS (tex, doc).
> If you used a git checkout URL, please try again, for me it worked today.
>
>
> Several modules need testing if they still work and make sense.
> If their authors are present, I’d appreciate a comment if we should keep
> them. I’d like to delete at least everything older than 10 years.
>
> * grph-downsample.lua (2019) is known to fail in current LMTX
>(I hope for an integrated solution during the meeting.)
>t-degrade (2018) is AFAIK an older version of it – delete?
>
> * high (2018) and pret-c (2018) are syntax highlighters.
>Are they better than the vim and scite modules?
>Does it make sense to keep/update them?
>
> * t-gm (2015, Luigi)
> * t-gs (2015, Luigi)
>

gm should be included in lmtx / mkiv by means of luaffi.
I cannot maintain them, you can drop them  or wait for the expiration date
of 2025.

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[NTG-context] MAPS nr 53

2023-08-22 Thread luigi scarso
An unmissable issue of MAPS, totally dedicated to MetaPost by Taco.
Once free I will put it in the mp repository.

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Re: [NTG-context] Off topic: Does a 'free for commercial use' flared-sans font exist in the world?

2023-06-19 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Sun, 18 Jun 2023 at 21:56, Hans Hagen via ntg-context 
wrote:

> On 6/18/2023 8:37 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 06:53:06PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context
> wrote:
> >> What is PFC data?
> >
> > The glyph containers on a table-based SFNT format
>
> So just shapes or pieces of shapes?
>
>
https://hal.science/hal-02112905v1/file/article-yannis.pdf

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Re: [NTG-context] knuth

2023-06-05 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 15:18, Alan Braslau via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

>
> On 04/06/23 04/06/23, 15:57, Berend de Boer via ntg-context wrote:
> >> Probably some on this list already checked how well chatgpt answers
> >> questions about domains one knows well and then probably noted that in
> >> spite of impressive wording, one can run into quite incorrect answers.
> >
> > I've been using it for ConTeXt, and to be honest, it works amazingly
> > well. It hallucinates sometimes, but it's such a time saver.
>
> Maybe someone should try asking it to write documentation/manuals?
>
> As a teacher, we are accustomed to seeing Google/Wikipedia/etc.
> cut-and-paste nonsense; now, this nonsense appears more polished, and
> our students are none the wiser. Saves them time, too! ;-)
>
> Who said: "the best way to economize thought is not to think at all"?
>


not all is bad: sometimes a textual description can replace a formalized
notation, e.g.
https://fosstodon.org/@t...@mathstodon.xyz/110250604086213386
I can imagine similar examples with tables.
Of course a very high level text is often ambiguous (as some kind of
formalized grammars, after all)
but  the example shows that in these cases  it is better to fix something
already almost ok than  to typeset it from scratch.

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Re: [NTG-context] knuth

2023-06-01 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 at 11:45, Hans Hagen via ntg-context 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Probably some on this list already checked how well chatgpt answers
> questions about domains one knows well and then probably noted that in
> spite of impressive wording, one can run into quite incorrect answers.
>
> One can get really stupid responses about tex and friends, but also can
> get impressive exmapled when asked for. (I'm still planning a wrap up of
> some.)
>
> That said, one should read:
>
>https://cs.stanford.edu/~knuth/chatGPT20.txt
>
> and this makes a pretty nice new sample file:
>
> It's amazing how the confident tone lends credibility to all of that
> made-up nonsense. Almost impossible for anybody without knowledge
> of the book to believe that those "facts" aren't authorititative
> and well researched.
>


you can happily include the email that I have sent to you that declares
that *you* are the author of MFlua
and *I* have nothing to do with it (chatgpt3: as far as I know, the
overall number of  users+developers of MFLua in the entire solar system is
exactly 1 -- me -- at least from 10 years) .
For a moment  I was even convinced that it was true.

On the other hand, I am pretty sure that it will be able to
generate perfect lualatex files for articles, reports, and later books.
How and when  it's more a matter of  interest rather than capabilities.

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[NTG-context] Luatex 1.17.0 announcement.

2023-05-27 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
(Sorry for the delay, I wanted to be sure that building phase was over)

==
LuaTeX 1.17.0 2023-04-29
==

- A breaking backward compatibility change: by default the socket
  library is not enabled .
  The new option --socket enable the socket library as
  before, as also --shell-escape (without --shell-restricted);
  --nosocket, --no-socket , --safer disabled the library, and
  they have the priority in case of conflicting options.
  The mime library is always available; socket.sleep
  and socket.gettime are duplicated as os.socketsleep
  and os.socketgettime, both always available.
  The new os.kpsepopen replace io.popopen in kpse mode
  (i.e. when kpse_init is not zero) as it was before
  but the permission now cannot be changed anymore with
  kpse.check_permission .
  The function os.kpsepopen follows the same restrictions
  as io.popen .
  Thanks to Max Chernoff for debugging.


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Re: [NTG-context] [ update message ]

2023-05-07 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Sun, 7 May 2023 at 16:05, Hans Hagen via ntg-context 
wrote:

> On 5/7/2023 3:18 PM, vm via ntg-context wrote:
> > running the sh install.sh script to update to the latest version i get a
> > message:
> >
> > /home/vm/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/luatex: unrecognized option
> > '--socket'
> >
> > there is probably a reason for it, context seems to compile just fine.
> ah, ok, so that luatex update even broke the context updater (i didn't
> realize that luatex would quit on an unknown option instead of just
> ignoring it)
>

indeed is what happens in this case :  luatex emits  a message
and continues (as the email says:  "...context seems to compile just fine.")

--socket is a new option for luatex 1.17.0, where sockets are disabled by
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF 2.0 standard documents now free

2023-04-06 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 at 09:02, Hans Hagen via ntg-context 
wrote:

> On 4/6/2023 8:07 AM, luigi scarso via ntg-context wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 at 07:54, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
> > mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote:
> >
> > Am 05.04.23 um 20:09 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context:
> >  > On 4/5/2023 7:48 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
> >  >> Forwarding from Mastodon:
> >  >>
> >  >> Adobe, Apryse, Foxit and PDFAssociation have partnered up and
> made
> >  >> ISO32000-2 2020 (aka PDF 2.0),
> >  >> ISO/TS 32001 (Extensions to Hash Algorithm Support in ISO
> > 32000-2) and
> >  >> ISO/TS 32002 (Extensions to Digital Signatures in ISO 32000-2)
> >  >> available as sponsored papers ... so **FREE**.
> >  >> Follow the links below; no valid email (or address) necessary:
> >  >> https://www.pdfa.org/sponsored-standards/
> > <https://www.pdfa.org/sponsored-standards/>
> >  > kind of interesting thatthe one from adobe is version 1 and the
> > other one 2
> >  >
> >  > i'll wait till it's really free .. currently it still costs EUR
> > 0, so
> >  > one has to fill in some cart / form
> >
> > You can put in arbitrary data and then download.
> > I don’t think it will become any more free.
> >
> >
> > indeed, but then:  why don't  we put them on the wiki site / another
> > free site ?
>
>  > Any legal restrictions ?
>
> Probably okay as long as one doesn't resell it for EUR 0 ...
>
> It all looks a bit weird to me anyway "sponsored standards" esp with
> sponsors mentioned on the cover instead of in thanks 'introduction'.
>
> What happens when the sponsors withdraw? How does that legally work with
> distributing? What is there are updates (unlikely anyway).
>
>
Indeed:  here  pdfa sells to you some books  (at 0€ , but it's always a
sale)
and as a general rule  you cannot  put them on a public site  for a
free download --  and this is the case , in my opinion.
So one has to fill the form with real data (personal or company), because
you are agreeing on a sale.

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Re: [NTG-context] PDF 2.0 standard documents now free

2023-04-06 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 at 07:54, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> Am 05.04.23 um 20:09 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context:
> > On 4/5/2023 7:48 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
> >> Forwarding from Mastodon:
> >>
> >> Adobe, Apryse, Foxit and PDFAssociation have partnered up and made
> >> ISO32000-2 2020 (aka PDF 2.0),
> >> ISO/TS 32001 (Extensions to Hash Algorithm Support in ISO 32000-2) and
> >> ISO/TS 32002 (Extensions to Digital Signatures in ISO 32000-2)
> >> available as sponsored papers ... so **FREE**.
> >> Follow the links below; no valid email (or address) necessary:
> >> https://www.pdfa.org/sponsored-standards/
> > kind of interesting thatthe one from adobe is version 1 and the other
> one 2
> >
> > i'll wait till it's really free .. currently it still costs EUR 0, so
> > one has to fill in some cart / form
>
> You can put in arbitrary data and then download.
> I don’t think it will become any more free.
>
>
indeed, but then:  why don't  we put them on the wiki site / another free
site ?
Any legal restrictions ?

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Re: [NTG-context] update / punctuation / math

2023-04-02 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 at 13:57, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> On 4/2/23 11:19, luigi scarso via ntg-context wrote:
> > On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 at 11:06, Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context
> > mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote:
> >
> > If you talk about the math font, I do not see what you mean. Daniel
> > has worked a lot on his fonts, and they now work well.
> >
> >
> > indeed the body font is not concrete opentype math but it looks very
> > similar at first sight
>
> Hi Luigi,
>
> according to type-imp-concrete.mkiv, Concrete-Math.otf seems to be only
> used for the math font.
>
> > here evince & mupdf are quite ok (evince somewhat bolder than mupdf),
>
> Well, evince displays it wrong (this is an already known issue with fake
> bold fonts in evince/poppler, reported years ago
> [https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/poppler/poppler/-/issues/645]).
>
>
hm, 4years ago, quite old... and this is not a fake bold, this is an
instance of a variable font.
But yes, it seems that evince still has the same problem.

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Re: [NTG-context] update / punctuation / math

2023-04-02 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 at 10:35, luigi scarso  wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 at 10:28, Hans Hagen via ntg-context <
> ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
> As a side note (it's 2 april now)
> the concrete font of the pdf  is not rendered well both on web and t on
> win/linux desktop .
> No surprise,  I did some experiments  with mflua years ago and  my
> results  had the same problem.
>

getting old... the pdf doesn't look so bad as I was used to remember
https://meeting.contextgarden.net/2017/talks/2017-09-14-luigi-mflua/slides.pdf

So yes , it's the instance of the variable font.

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Re: [NTG-context] update / punctuation / math

2023-04-02 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 at 11:06, Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

>
> If you talk about the math font, I do not see what you mean. Daniel
> has worked a lot on his fonts, and they now work well.
>

indeed the body font is not concrete opentype math but it looks very
similar at first sight
(of course... ). I was deceived because I remember its shapes quite well (C
,g a ).


>
> If you talk about the text font, Hans changed the concrete typescript
> so that it uses the variable "mono" Latin modern instead of the
> concrete text font that comes from Computer modern unicode. But the
> font is also boldened slightly, and perhaps that is what causes your
> problem (It did look weird on my phone for half a second or so before
> it "got normal"). In okular I see no problems.
>
>
here evince & mupdf are quite ok (evince somewhat bolder than mupdf),
okular looks not so good. They all have a caching-something,
after the first zooms  the pdf is rendered differently.


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Re: [NTG-context] update / punctuation / math

2023-04-02 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 at 10:28, Hans Hagen via ntg-context 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
As a side note (it's 2 april now)
the concrete font of the pdf  is not rendered well both on web and t on
win/linux desktop .
No surprise,  I did some experiments  with mflua years ago and  my results
had the same problem.
Is it a known issue?

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt features in pandoc 3

2023-01-23 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 at 08:30, juh via ntg-context 
wrote:

>
> For my own writing I was using Markdown --> Pandoc --> ConTeXt for quite
> a while and was happy with it, too. Recently I switched to Org-Mode as I
> started to use org-roam to organize my Zettelkasten and want to make use
> of the org-mode TODO workflow states to organize the writing process. I
> use org-pandoc to export from org-mode/emacs to context. I can also use
> ox-context but I have difficulties to customize it to my needs.
>
> The main problem is that both org-pandoc and ox-context are developed by
> very few people. My lisp knowledge is very limited so I have to stick
> with what is there.
>
> Having a solid pipe from the first ideas to the print pdf would be nice.
> For now I would say that the exports from org-mode are the weak element
> in the chain. But if they fail I can export to Markdown and do the last
> steps via Markdown --> Pandoc.
>
> That said I have to confess that I do more sophisticated layout things
> like flyers in pure ConTeXt as it is much faster.
>

It would be very nice to have a paper / wiki / whatever ... about
your workflow Markdown --> Pandoc --> ConTeXt using Org-Mode.
In these cases, having "a working workflow" to start with is much better
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Re: [NTG-context] atan2 function

2022-10-14 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 at 14:58, Taco Hoekwater via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

>
>
> > On 14 Oct 2022, at 14:26, Alan Braslau via ntg-context <
> ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> >
> > Are you using MP in scaled integer or in doubleprecision mode?
> >
> > I have not looked into the MP angle operator code, but my suspicion is
> that it is based on some super-clever John Hobby scheme optimized for
> scaled integer calculations.
>
> The scaled version of “angle” is a handwritten approximation in web, not
> using
> any math library. I really doubt that that code is faster than calling
> atan2()
> on a modern machine, but I’ve kept it in because using a lib might give
> slightly
> different results.
>

iirc, in metapost  the whole scaled number system has no dependency  from
any external math library
(I have not checked the lmtx source yet).
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF viewer

2022-09-23 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 8:08 PM Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I compiled a kind of wishlist what we need or look for in a new or
> enhanced open source PDF viewer, as discussed e.g. at the 2021 meeting.
>
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/PDF_viewer
>
>
slightly off-topic
1)   gs has a new pdf viewer
 https://www.ghostscript.com/blog/pdfi.html
but of course I think that they push on mupdf

2) EBookDroid - PDF & DJVU Reader is a very nice pdf viewer for android,
especially on 10" tablets. It's based on mupdf.

It seems that mupdf is more suited to be embedded into / used for
embedding   other programs:
latest mupdf (1.20, iirc)  has a js console and  I think you can interact
with the viewer -- sort of the js console of the browser;
I haven't seen how yet, perhaps you can add objects on the fly to the
documents, in this case one can think of embedding a
small luatex (no harms,  after all mupdf it's already a big binary) and add
(pdf)objects by scripting.


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Re: [NTG-context] debugging lmtx and firefox (was: TeXGyre Heros on Firefox)

2022-07-25 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 7:52 PM Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context <
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>
> Sadly, as already reported, LuaTeX doesn’t work on Linux anymore.
>
>
hm at least luatex on x86-64 is still ok, as far as  I know.

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[NTG-context] Luatex 1.15.0 announcement.

2022-04-03 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
==
LuaTeX 1.15.0 2021-12-31
==

New primitive \matheqdirmode.
By default the short skip detection is not adapted to r2l typesetting and
that
hasn't been the case since the start of the project. Changing it could break
hacks that users came up with but when you set \matheqdirmode to a positive
value direction will be taken into account.

Several bug fixes (see ChangeLog).


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Re: [NTG-context] LuaMetaLa(!)TeX

2022-02-13 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 11:33 AM Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> WTF, someone wrote a LaTeX format for LuaMetaTeX already 3 years ago:
> https://github.com/zauguin/luametalatex
>
>
>
sure -- he is not "someone", we know Marcel .


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Re: [NTG-context] XMP metadata schema yields invalid PDF/A

2022-02-05 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 1:33 PM luigi scarso  wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 1:28 PM Karl Pettersson 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> >
>> > From what I understand, ConTeXt applies a custom Dublin Core schema
>> > containing just a redefinition of dc:description, which is not coherent
>> > with how dc:description is written by the application.
>> >
>> > This patch to lpdf-pda.xml removes the validation error.
>> >
>>
>> Sorry, diff the other way round according to diff original new.
>>
>
> indeed..
> Ok, now I see. Need to check some things .
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>

Following
https://www.pdfa.org/wp-content/until2016_uploads/2011/08/pdfa_metadata-2b.pdf
I think we should replace
Text
with
 Lang Alt

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Re: [NTG-context] XMP metadata schema yields invalid PDF/A

2022-02-05 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 1:28 PM Karl Pettersson 
wrote:

>
> >
> > From what I understand, ConTeXt applies a custom Dublin Core schema
> > containing just a redefinition of dc:description, which is not coherent
> > with how dc:description is written by the application.
> >
> > This patch to lpdf-pda.xml removes the validation error.
> >
>
> Sorry, diff the other way round according to diff original new.
>

indeed..
Ok, now I see. Need to check some things .
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Re: [NTG-context] XMP metadata schema yields invalid PDF/A

2022-02-05 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 9:48 AM Karl Pettersson 
wrote:

>
> Attach metadata xml for the non-validating and validating example
> (extraced with `pdfinfo -meta | xmllint format -`) in the
> Github issue.
>
> Here is a reference to the description element. Note that only
> description seems to be redefined, not title.
>


it's not redefined -- it's dropped. And this is ok.
You can also check with
  FOO
  

  TITLE

  
and again it's valid.
But
https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:iso:19005:-1:ed-1:v2:cor:1:v1:en
and
https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:iso:19005:-1:ed-1:v2:cor:2:v1:en:tab:1
suggest that dc:description and dc:title are of the same type,
which is coherent with
XMPSpecificationPart1.pdf
as in
https://github.com/adobe/XMP-Toolkit-SDK/tree/main/docs

I.e. these are correct   --  but Subject must agree with dc:description
  

  

  
  

  TITLE

  

At least, this is what I understand.

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Re: [NTG-context] XMP metadata schema yields invalid PDF/A

2022-02-04 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 11:11 PM Karl Pettersson via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 04, 2022 at 10:25:27PM +0100, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> > On 2/4/2022 7:29 PM, Karl Pettersson via ntg-context wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > PDF/A files generated using ConTeXt fail validation with veraPDF, and
> > > the reason seems to be that the dc:description metadata is defined with
> > > the wrong type in the embedded XMP extension schema.
> > >
> > >
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/632380/generate-pdf-a-with-context
> > >
> > > https://github.com/veraPDF/veraPDF-library/issues/1224
> > >
> > > I can reproduce the problem using TeX Live 2021 (MkIV 2021.03.05). The
> > > definition seems to be controlled by this code.
> > >
> > >
> https://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/mkiv/lpdf-pua.xml?search=rdf#l81
> > so "dc:description" is not permitted? it is mentioned in
> >
> >
> https://www.dublincore.org/specifications/dublin-core/dcmi-terms/#http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/description
> >
> > (btw it never failed before)
>
> The description element is permitted, but the problem seems to be that
> its valueType is defined as Text in the embedded schema, while the
> metadata element in the PDF has an embedded  xml:lang="x-default"> structure.
>
>
> https://github.com/veraPDF/veraPDF-library/issues/1224#issuecomment-1029932963
>
> (I suppose the reference to "title" in the issue comment should be
> "description".)
>
> Validating with veraPDF <1.20 does not raise the error. The validation
> seems to have changed for redefined types in that version.
>
>
> https://github.com/veraPDF/veraPDF-library/blob/integration/RELEASENOTES.md#validation


I am missing something here... true
FOO
makes a valid pdf 3a with verapdf 1.20.1.
But dc:description is like dc:title, so where we are redefining
dc:description as Text ?

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Re: [NTG-context] XMP metadata schema yields invalid PDF/A

2022-02-04 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 10:26 PM Hans Hagen via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> On 2/4/2022 7:29 PM, Karl Pettersson via ntg-context wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > PDF/A files generated using ConTeXt fail validation with veraPDF, and
> > the reason seems to be that the dc:description metadata is defined with
> > the wrong type in the embedded XMP extension schema.
> >
> >
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/632380/generate-pdf-a-with-context
> >
> > https://github.com/veraPDF/veraPDF-library/issues/1224
> >
> > I can reproduce the problem using TeX Live 2021 (MkIV 2021.03.05). The
> > definition seems to be controlled by this code.
> >
> >
> https://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/mkiv/lpdf-pua.xml?search=rdf#l81



>
> so "dc:description" is not permitted? it is mentioned in
>
>
> https://www.dublincore.org/specifications/dublin-core/dcmi-terms/#http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/description
>
>

and also in XMPSpecificationPart1.pdf

https://github.com/adobe/XMP-Toolkit-SDK/tree/main/docs

 dc:description

Language
Alternative

DCMI definition: An account of the resource.
XMP addition: XMP usage is a list of textual descriptions of the content of
the
resource, given in various languages.


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Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-07 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 6:25 PM hanneder--- via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

>
> Probably the situation in South Asian Studies (Indology) is peculiar.
> As I indicated, there are mostly no  budgets for book typesetting in
> Indology and
> I know of no real expert for typesetting in this field. In other
> words, the authors
> have do it themselves, usually in Word etc., but some do use TeX etc.
> Our publications
> series (Indologica Marpurgensia) is, for instance, all done with
> LaTeX, as are my publications
> with Harrassowitz, which is the largest publisher in our field in
> Germany. There is no institution
> offering typesetting of Sanskrit editions, because there is no
> commercial interest in it and I
> think there is no expertise for this (especially when Indian scripts
> are used instead of transliteration).
>
> Journals are different. Indological journals published by Brill use
> TeX internally, which is convenient,
> but most others know only Word (->InDesign). That is the situation,
> frustrating in a way, but it also
> gives some freedom for using TeX (and, sadly, creating one's own
> dilettantic designs).
>
> Jürgen
>

perhaps this can be interesting
https://www.tatzetwerk.nl/
(seen them at a context meeting years ago)


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Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-05 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 12:54 PM Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> On 1/5/22 9:43 AM, luigi scarso via ntg-context wrote:
> > [...]
> > quite old (2014),  but perhaps still interesting:
> > embedding of a tei-xml into a tagged pdf
> > https://www.guitex.org/home/images/ArsTeXnica/AT018/teitagged.pdf
>
> Luigi,
>
> if you allow me a comment (or even a suggestion), an English version of
> that article updated to LMTX wouuld be of huge help to the rest of us.
>

yeah, but unfortunately I have no time now.
It's for luatex with poppler -- now we have pplib --
and not lmtx, so not so useful I guess.
But you can try with
$>pdftotext -layout teitagged.pdf
and translate teitagged.txt  with google.

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Re: [NTG-context] Critical Editions?

2022-01-05 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 12:00 AM Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> Thomas,
> Even if I am an occasional user of CTX (mainly class courses for beginners
> and sophomore or by trying to write samples of what it is possible to
> achieve with it), and if I think I am aware about what can do CTX or what
> it cannot do, I didn't know that you wrote a  wiki page on TEI-XML with
> ConTeXt : even if I am interested by clever printing and issues with
> multi-languages texts topics, I ignored your precious piece of work. I was
> interested by the questions of Pr. Jürgen Hanneder, because even if I don't
> know a word of Sanskrit,  it is allways a true pain to begin with technical
> requisits when your real job is to think about the problematic meaning of
> ancients or less ancients texts. You precise clearly what I think about
> University mores, and J. Hanneder tell us his problems, which all of us
> know.
> There are, for people who are working on Ancient Greek, Latin, Middle Age
> texts or Sanskrit (or whatever) some commercial tools which seem do the
> work : but technical efficiency asks allways money.  I know of a company
> that works for a publisher, whose service is to code some Perl with text
> formatted in LaTeX and XML, in order to produce a display on screen and a
> printout on paper, until the page which presents the cover of the book and
> the summary of the contents, as well as its ISBN code, its price and the
> quantity of books in stock.
>
quite old (2014),  but perhaps still interesting:
embedding of a tei-xml into a tagged pdf
https://www.guitex.org/home/images/ArsTeXnica/AT018/teitagged.pdf

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Re: [NTG-context] problem with MkIV/TeXlive/TEXMFCACHE

2021-08-30 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 12:48 PM Rainer J.H. Brandt via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> luigi scarso via ntg-context writes:
> > > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 10:35 AM Rainer J.H. Brandt via ntg-context <
> > > > ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> > > > > The TeXlive documentation says that ConTeXt uses TEXMFCACHE,
> > > > > which uses the default $TEXMFSYSVAR;$TEXMFVAR in my texmf.cnf.
> > > > > My TEXMFSYSVAR is /var/opt/texlive, but ConTeXt doesn't use it.
> > >
> > hm, my
> > $> mtxrun --variables
> > says
> > resolvers   | lists | TEXMFCACHE
> > resolvers   | lists |   env: unset
> > resolvers   | lists |   var: TEXMFCACHE
> > resolvers   | lists |   exp:
> > selfautoparent:texmf-var;home:.texlive2021/texmf-var
> >
> > and it's ok. So perhaps  your selfautoparent it's not ok.
>
> I will check that.
>
> But, as I said, my texmf.cnf sets TEXMFCACHE to $TEXMFSYSVAR;$TEXMFVAR,
> and TEXMFSYSVAR is /var/opt/texlive.  Why is that ignored?
>

look at
 texmfcnf.lua

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Re: [NTG-context] problem with MkIV/TeXlive/TEXMFCACHE

2021-08-30 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 11:49 AM Rainer J.H. Brandt via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> Hello Luigi,
>
> you asked:
> > On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 10:35 AM Rainer J.H. Brandt via ntg-context <
> > ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear experts,
> > >
> > > I want to use ConTeXt MkIV as supplied by TeXlive 2021.
> > > After installation, I ran "mtxrun --generate".
> > > I also tried "context --generate".
> > > Both create output in the wrong place.
> > >
> > > The TeXlive documentation says that ConTeXt uses TEXMFCACHE,
> > > which uses the default $TEXMFSYSVAR;$TEXMFVAR in my texmf.cnf.
> > > My TEXMFSYSVAR is /var/opt/texlive, but ConTeXt doesn't use it.
> > > Instead, it creates /opt/texmf-var and creates its output there.
> > > I don't understand why it used that path; I've never used or configured
> > > it.
> > >
> > > How can I convice ConTeXt to use TEXMFSYSVAR?
> > > [...]
> >
> > What does
> > $> tlmgr conf
> > say ?
>
> The output is appended below and looks reasonable.  In particular, it shows
> that I installed under /opt/local/share/texlive and doesn't mention the
> "mtxrun --generate" output path /opt/texmf-var at all.
>
> Please note that I don't use tlmgr and also that I didn't use the TeX Live
> installer.  I built the binaries from their sources and then installed
> the rest from the texmf archive file. I use other engines on a daily basis,
> mostly pdflatex, and they work flawlessly.
>
> Thanks, Rainer
>
>
hm, my
$> mtxrun --variables
says
resolvers   | lists | TEXMFCACHE
resolvers   | lists |   env: unset
resolvers   | lists |   var: TEXMFCACHE
resolvers   | lists |   exp:
selfautoparent:texmf-var;home:.texlive2021/texmf-var

and it's ok. So perhaps  your selfautoparent it's not ok.


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Re: [NTG-context] problem with MkIV/TeXlive/TEXMFCACHE

2021-08-27 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 10:35 AM Rainer J.H. Brandt via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> Dear experts,
>
> I want to use ConTeXt MkIV as supplied by TeXlive 2021.
> After installation, I ran "mtxrun --generate".
> I also tried "context --generate".
> Both create output in the wrong place.
>
> The TeXlive documentation says that ConTeXt uses TEXMFCACHE,
> which uses the default $TEXMFSYSVAR;$TEXMFVAR in my texmf.cnf.
> My TEXMFSYSVAR is /var/opt/texlive, but ConTeXt doesn't use it.
> Instead, it creates /opt/texmf-var and creates its output there.
> I don't understand why it used that path; I've never used or configured
> it.
>
> How can I convice ConTeXt to use TEXMFSYSVAR?
>
> Or is this a question for the TeXlive folks?
>
> Thanks for looking at this.
>


What does
$> tlmgr conf
say ?

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt exporter for Org Mode

2021-08-10 Thread luigi scarso via ntg-context
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 10:01 AM Jason Ross via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have developed a ConTeXt exporter for Org Mode. It is available at
> https://github.com/Jason-S-Ross/ox-context
>
> The exporter provides custom environments for each Org Mode entity
> in an effort to make customization easier, in contrast to the Pandoc
> exporter which uses built-in environments for document elements.
>
> I appreciate any feedback.
>

Perhaps just add a README.md that explains how to install it,  and a short
example.


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Re: [NTG-context] lmtx upload

2021-06-24 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 7:29 PM Hans Hagen  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new version. I got sidetracked by an experiment. We can
> read from zip files, but as I had some tar archives I wondered if we
> could read from them. They happened to be compressed. It uses an already
> present infrastructure (early mkiv I played a bit with reading from zip
> files).
>
>
libarchive looks quite useful
http://libarchive.org/
(see
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/virtualization/community/team-blog/2017/20171219-tar-and-curl-come-to-windows
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Re: [NTG-context] [#1] CJK regression? | lmtx-20210613 .

2021-06-17 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 11:33 AM luigi scarso 
wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 10:53 PM Alan Braslau 
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 17:14:22 +0200
>> luigi scarso  wrote:
>>
>> > > Did you try this one?
>> > >
>> > > http://www.xpdfreader.com/download.html
>> >
>> >
>> > I doesn't workunder ubuntu 20.04
>> > libicudata.so.56 => not found
>> > I have libicudata.so.66
>>
>> The ubuntu package must be built incorrectly, for I have
>> /usr/local/lib/libicudata.so.69
>> and xpdf works fine (freebsd).
>>
>> Alan
>>
>
>
> Hm, I think you  have libicui18n.so.56 installed somewhere or your copy is
> using the "69" version.
>
> $> export LD_DEBUG=all; ./xpdf &>out ; unset LD_DEBUG
> says
>  1525647: file=libicui18n.so.56 [0];  needed by
> /tmp/xpdf/xpdf/XpdfReader-linux64-4.03/lib/libQt5Core.so.5 [0]
>   1525647: find library=libicui18n.so.56 [0]; searching
> :
> :
> :
> 1525647:
> ./xpdf.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libicui18n.so.56: cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
>
OK, in my case it seems that I don't need the  libQt*so under lib/. So I
have renamed it as _lib, and now xpdf runs ok.

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Re: [NTG-context] [#1] CJK regression? | lmtx-20210613 .

2021-06-17 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 10:53 PM Alan Braslau 
wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 17:14:22 +0200
> luigi scarso  wrote:
>
> > > Did you try this one?
> > >
> > > http://www.xpdfreader.com/download.html
> >
> >
> > I doesn't workunder ubuntu 20.04
> > libicudata.so.56 => not found
> > I have libicudata.so.66
>
> The ubuntu package must be built incorrectly, for I have
> /usr/local/lib/libicudata.so.69
> and xpdf works fine (freebsd).
>
> Alan
>


Hm, I think you  have libicui18n.so.56 installed somewhere or your copy is
using the "69" version.

$> export LD_DEBUG=all; ./xpdf &>out ; unset LD_DEBUG
says
 1525647: file=libicui18n.so.56 [0];  needed by
/tmp/xpdf/xpdf/XpdfReader-linux64-4.03/lib/libQt5Core.so.5 [0]
  1525647: find library=libicui18n.so.56 [0]; searching
:
:
:
1525647:
./xpdf.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libicui18n.so.56: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory


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Re: [NTG-context] [#1] CJK regression? | lmtx-20210613 .

2021-06-16 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 9:00 PM Hans Hagen  wrote:

> On 6/15/2021 8:47 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 8:29 PM Hans Hagen  > <mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> >
> > On 6/15/2021 7:53 PM, Alan Braslau wrote:
> >  > On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 13:07:04 +0200
> >  > Hans Hagen mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> >  >
> >  >> the windows mupdf viewer is somewhat crippled (no selection) but
> >  >> searching for something shows the right bbox
> >  >
> >  > I do not know about Windows ports, but mupdf and mupdf-gl differ,
> not
> >  > only in their rendering but also in their keystrokes and mouse
> > bindings.
> >
> >
> > mupdf-gl (the advanced one) uses opengl,  but unfortunately it breaks
> > when the drivers are updated;
> > mupdf uses x11, and it's much more stable.
> > To be honest, under ubuntu okular and evince are still better than mupdf.
> Did you try this one?
>
> http://www.xpdfreader.com/download.html


I doesn't workunder ubuntu 20.04
libicudata.so.56 => not found
I have libicudata.so.66

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Re: [NTG-context] [#1] CJK regression? | lmtx-20210613 .

2021-06-15 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 8:29 PM Hans Hagen  wrote:

> On 6/15/2021 7:53 PM, Alan Braslau wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 13:07:04 +0200
> > Hans Hagen  wrote:
> >
> >> the windows mupdf viewer is somewhat crippled (no selection) but
> >> searching for something shows the right bbox
> >
> > I do not know about Windows ports, but mupdf and mupdf-gl differ, not
> > only in their rendering but also in their keystrokes and mouse bindings.
>

mupdf-gl (the advanced one) uses opengl,  but unfortunately it breaks when
the drivers are updated;
mupdf uses x11, and it's much more stable.
To be honest, under ubuntu okular and evince are still better than mupdf.


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Re: [NTG-context] [#1] CJK regression? | lmtx-20210613 .

2021-06-15 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 9:13 AM Hans Hagen  wrote:

> On 6/15/2021 12:21 AM, Richard Mahoney wrote:
> > Thank you very much for this Hans. And especially for resolving
> > what looks like quite a complex issue in next to no time.
> >
> > As it happens I've found LMTX just fine for "production", so long as
> > I keep copies of a few versions that I know are working well.
>  >
> > I settled on SciTE a long time ago and tend to keep a few start
> > up scripts that make reverting to a previous version simple:
> >
> > -r-x-- 1 rbm49 rbm49 210 Dec 20 16:54 SciTE-start-lmtx-20200920.sh
> > -r-x-- 1 rbm49 rbm49 210 Jun 13 22:04 SciTE-start-lmtx-20210509.sh
> > -rwx-- 1 rbm49 rbm49 210 Jun 15 08:50 SciTE-start-lmtx-latest.sh
>
> btw, When testing your example I noticed that sumatra pdf (which i use
> as viewer) doesn't handle selecting the cjk text well. I looked at the
> source (on github) and get the impression that it might be some font
> bbox issue (these asian fonts have hugee bboxes); (also old) acrobat and
> browsers do fine as does an old windows okular I have installed.
>
> Does anyone know of a minimalistic mupdf based pdf viewer that has a
> decent gui but not all this (semi) epub, xps, reflow, etc stuff on
> board? Just the mupdf pdf core.
>


perhaps the mupdf app for android.
Another one is  evince for windows:
https://portableapps.com/apps/office/evince_portable


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Re: [NTG-context] Incorrect sorting in \completelistofabbreviations for numbers

2021-06-10 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 11:39 AM Markus Brandt <
markus.bra...@sit.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote:

> yes, seems like they are sorted by tag. But that’s not useful, since you
> cannot use numbers in a tag. This tag is just the workaround for
> abbreviations that include numbers.
>
>
>

\abbreviation[0123]{123}{One, Two, and Three}
\abbreviation{ABC}{A, B, and C}
\abbreviation{ZYX}{Z, Y, and X}

\starttext
\csname 0123\endcsname
\completelistofabbreviations[criterium=all]
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Incorrect sorting in \completelistofabbreviations for numbers

2021-06-10 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 11:08 AM Markus Brandt <
markus.bra...@sit.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I think I've found a sorting bug in \completelistofabbreviations in the
> latest LMTX (and probably also MKIV). When using this minimal example
>
> \abbreviation[OTT]{123}{One, Two, and Three}
> \abbreviation{ABC}{A, B, and C}
> \abbreviation{ZYX}{Z, Y, and X}
>
> \starttext
> \completelistofabbreviations[criterium=all]
> \stoptext
>
> I get
>
> ABCA, B, and C
> 123One, Two, and Three
> ZYXZ, Y, and X
>
> Numbers should go before letters. Do you know any workaround/fix for
> that?
>

aren't they sorted by the tag ?
By default the synonim is the tag; only the first one has an explicit tag
(OTT)
so the order  is ABC, OTT,  ZXY, which looks ok.

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Re: [NTG-context] LMTX install

2021-05-23 Thread luigi scarso
Il Dom 23 Mag 2021, 12:14 jbf  ha scritto:

> Then something is not making sense (to me).
>
> .bashrc clearly shows: export
> PATH=$PATH:/home/me/bin/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin, so does that not
> mean that bin can be found via the path? So why does 'context
> myfile.tex' not work?
>
> If I run a full path (.
> /home/me/bin/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun context myfile.tex) I
> get the message 'cannot execute binary file' and yet mtxrun is
> executable. I checked. Clearly I am making a basic error, but cannot
> work out what.
>
> Julian


In general I always set
export PATH=:$PATH

>
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Re: [NTG-context] \char not working with private unicodes

2021-05-12 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 3:41 PM Taco Hoekwater  wrote:

>
>
> > On 11 May 2021, at 15:16, Hans Hagen  wrote:
> >
> > On 5/11/2021 2:08 PM, Jairo A. del Rio wrote:
> >> Hi, list! Following this thread:
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/596610/how-to-use-luatex-with-large-unicode-codepoint
> <
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/596610/how-to-use-luatex-with-large-unicode-codepoint>,
> I tried to replicate it in ConTeXt. Both LMTX and LMTX fail to display the
> right symbol and, as it's discussed in the linked page, there's an offset
> by 14. Is this intentional (in ConTeXt)? A bug? Minimal (non-)working
> example:
> >> %Font available here: https://materialdesignicons.com/ <
> https://materialdesignicons.com/>
> >> \starttext
> >> \definedfont[file:materialdesignicons-webfont.ttf]\char"F1372\relax
> >> \stoptext
> > You need to employ a sense of humour for that font:
> >
> > \starttext
> >\definefontfeature[materialicons][default][rlig=yes]
> >\definedfont[file:materialiconsregular.ttf*materialicons]
> >baby_changing_station
> > \stoptext
>
> That only works with the regular font, not with the webfont version from
> the ‘easy download’
> link (it is cool, though :)).
>
> But that is not the issue. The issue is that you have this super-useful
> page online:
>
>   https://pictogrammers.github.io/@mdi/font/5.4.55/
>
>
another link for the records, just in case
https://www.nerdfonts.com


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Re: [NTG-context] Adjusting parameters for a single page

2021-05-11 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 10:29 AM  wrote:

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: Hans Hagen 
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Mai 2021 00:13
> > An: mailing list for ConTeXt users ; Maier, Denis
> > Christian (UB) 
> > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Adjusting parameters for a single page
> >
> > On 5/10/2021 5:15 PM, denis.ma...@ub.unibe.ch wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I know it is possible to make local changes by enclosing text in
> > > \start \stop pairs to make local changes. Then, there are also
> > > commands that only affect the next/current paragraph, such as
> \looseness.
> > >
> > > But is there a similar mechanism for page-layout changes? For example
> > > your penalty settings allow widows and orphans, but on one particular
> > > page you want to change the penalties. Or, you use
> > > \setupalign[height], but on one page you want to use
> > > \setupalign[bottom] instead. Is there a way to do this ?
> > it works per paragraph so then you need to adapt it for a specific
> paragraph
>
> So, that means you cannot make changes to a page, but only to paragraph.
> If a paragraph goes over page boundaries, you cannot add stretch or shrink
> interlinespace for just one page... correct?
>

this looks more a otr technique, e.g.
 https://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb11-1/tb27salomon.pdf
(or grep the context code for otr)


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Re: [NTG-context] simpleslides gives 'input stack overflow'

2021-05-11 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 11:25 PM Adam Reviczky  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Looks like it is a problem with "StartPage" and "StopPage" in metapost.
>
> I get the same error with any MP graphic using those commands.
>
> More minimal example (without simpleslides) as per the wiki:
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Cover_Pages
>
> colors  > 'rgb' color space is supported
> colors  > 'cmyk' color space is supported
> fonts   > preloading latin modern fonts (second stage)
> fonts   > 'fallback modern-designsize rm 12pt' is loaded
> metapost> initializing instance 'metafun:1' using format 'metafun'
> and method 'default'
> metapost> loading 'metafun' as
> '/usr/share/texmf/metapost/context/base/mpiv/metafun.mpiv' using method
> 'default'
> metapost> initializing number mode 'scaled'
> input stack overflow
> mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 256
>
> Commenting out "StartPage" and "StopPage" compiles.
>
> mtx-context | current version: 2021.05.09 17:14
> This is LuaTeX, Version 1.14.0
> Development id: 7438
>

it should be ok now in Development id: 7439
 (just for the records)

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Re: [NTG-context] How to write readable source files?

2021-04-24 Thread luigi scarso
On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 11:53 AM Jan U. Hasecke 
wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> how do you format your ConTeXt source files?
>
> I recently discovered prettier which reformats source files for
> different markup
> and programming languages such as html, markdown, json etc.
>
> There are some other tools around but I don't find anything for ConTeXt.
>
> Do you know of any prettifying tool?
>
> Is there a best practice for ConTeXt source files, at all?
>
>
you should consider that in TeX (but also in Python, for example) spaces
matter.
Sometimes unwanted results are triggered by unseen blanks, and they  are
hard to discover.

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Re: [NTG-context] Bug: missing Lua API in binaries

2021-04-23 Thread luigi scarso
On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 1:33 AM Sylvain Hubert 
wrote:

> You're right, I just checked the symbols of luatex and they contain all
> the APIs of lua 5.3.
> So I guess the problem is specific to luametatex and the latest context.
>
> > but in any case you should compile against the luatex headers, not the
> stock lua 5.3.6.
>
> Does luatex have dedicated headers different from the ones for stock lua?
>

There are some small differences, because we had to harmonize luajit and
lua .

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Re: [NTG-context] Bug: missing Lua API in binaries

2021-04-23 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 10:08 PM Sylvain Hubert 
wrote:

> Dear Devs,
>
> Sorry if this is not the best place for reporting bugs.
>
> I'm trying to use the lpeglabel library written in C and delivered as
> lpeglabel.so.
>
> $ ls
> testlabel.lua lpeglabel.so
> $ cat testlabel.lua
> require("lpeglabel")
>
> The ConTeXt binary cannot load the library because it lacks certain Lua
> API:
>
> $ context --forcecld --permitloadlib testlabel.lua
> ...
> fatal lua error:
> registered function call [1542]:
> ...tx/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/l-package.lua:348: error
> loading module 'lpeglabel' from file './lpeglabel.so':
> ./lpeglabel.so: undefined symbol: lua_gettop
>
>
hm, lua_gettop  is a global symbol in latest luatex, it's not undefined...


>
> nor does LuaTeX:
> $ luatex -luaonly testlabel.lua
> error loading module 'lpeglabel' from file './lpeglabel.so':
> ./lpeglabel.so: undefined symbol: lua_getiuservalue
>
>
lua_getiuservalue is in lua 5.4 API, luatex is lua 5.3.6 API
but in any case you should compile against the luatex headers, not the
stock lua 5.3.6.
I don't know lpeglabel, but luatex has the lpeg embedded and perhaps it can
clash with the library.

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[NTG-context] Luatex 1.13.1 announcement.

2021-04-02 Thread luigi scarso
==
LuaTeX 1.13.1 2021-04-02
==

Fixed an unwanted space in btex etex in metapost, introduced
after a patch for troff.


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[NTG-context] Luatex 1.13.0 announcement.

2021-03-28 Thread luigi scarso
==
LuaTeX 1.13.0 2021-03-12
==

This is the release for TeX live 2021.
Callback for nesting level used in tracingmacros.
It is is a variant of \tracingstacklevels
by Petr Olsak implemented in pdftex and xetex.
Two TeX January 2021 DEK buglet fixes (H.Hagen)
Mark math glyphs as protected (in order to prevent processing
as text in base mode).
Removed width/ic compensation for traditional math code path.
When restricted system commands is enabled  os.setenv has no effect.
Minor clean-up and bugs fixed (see ChangeLog)


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Re: [NTG-context] composing commands

2021-02-05 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 11:47 PM Hans Hagen  wrote:

>
> never call a diaeresis an umlaut and vise versa ...


hm
latin is  vice versa (or versa vice)
italian is viceversa
english is vice versa

https://forvo.com/word/vice_versa/
I think that  the latin one is the classic (or "restituta") pronunciation,
the
ecclesiastic should be more or less like the italian .

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Re: [NTG-context] midi

2021-02-04 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 4:16 AM Fabrice L  wrote:

>
> I usually do images ; if you or the list ever want to see more, the site
> https://art-aleatoire.com is to show my work, and all you can see there
> is made by me using 100% MetaFun, with sometimes the help of you and the
> list, and all the time the help of your wonderful MetaFun manual. I’m often
> so much impressed by what could be done with a couples of lines of MetaFun
> code; life is made from DNA, art (perhaps illustrations would be a better
> world) could be made by the MetaFun « randomized » function.
>
> « art-aleatoire »  is french, and can be translated to «  random art ». So
> the function I use the most in MetaFun is « randomized » !
>
>

https://www.contextfreeart.org/index.html
So the next challenge is implementing CFDG with lpeg...
and then post  to gigapixels
https://artsandculture.google.com/project/gigapixels

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Re: [NTG-context] dutch calendars 3 months

2021-01-05 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 1:14 PM Taco Hoekwater  wrote:

>
>
> Being Dutch, I never realised there was such a thing as a “Dutch
> calendar”.
>
> These are just calendars? What makes them “Dutch” from an Italian
> viewpoint?
>
> Best wishes,
> Taco
>
>
The  reference site treccani says
https://www.treccani.it/vocabolario/olandese/
 Calendario o., quello formato da 12 o 6 fogli contenenti ciascuno uno o
due mesi con i giorni disposti in colonna, che si appende alla parete.

So, a wall calendar with 12 or 6 sheets, each one within one or two months,
but the canonical form is  with  12 sheets  with the previous month on the
left, the current month at the center and the next month on the right,
each one with the days in a single column.
Of course there are now many variations, but the canonical form is the
better one.
I don't know the origin of the term.
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[NTG-context] dutch calendars 3 months

2021-01-05 Thread luigi scarso
I guess this is a challenge for Willi :
a module to typeset "dutch calendars"
as in
https://www.calendari.it/
(I am not involved at all with the site, it's the first I have found )

I like the slim version, with 3 months, the saint(s) of the day, the moon
phases, the week number,
the day from the beginning and to the end of the year 


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Re: [NTG-context] Off-topic: Struggles with LPEG grammar

2020-12-21 Thread luigi scarso
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 2:36 PM Taco Hoekwater  wrote:

>
>
> > On 21 Dec 2020, at 14:08, Mojca Miklavec 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Taco,
> >
> > On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 at 13:46, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> >>> On 21 Dec 2020, at 13:16, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> >>>
> >>> My only explanation would be that perhaps "^1" is so greedy that the
> >>> rest of the pattern doesn't get found. But I don't want to believe
> >>> that explanation.
> >>
> >> Which (of course) means that that is exactly what happens ;)
> >>
> >> The ones that match are
> >>
> >> ababbb (a (ba+bb) b) => r4 r1(r3(r5 r4) r2(r5 r5)) r5
> >> abbbab (a (bb+ba) b) => r4 r1(r2(r5 r5) r3(r5 r4)) r5
> >>
> >> With the ^1, in the “bb” cases the first “b” eats all three “b”s:
> >>
> >> ababbb fails the r5 at the end
> >>
> >> abbbab fails the first r2 already (since the second r5 therein never
> happens)
> >
> > Is this a deliberate choice, a limitation of the grammar
> > expressiveness, some misuse on my side that could/should/needs to be
> > implemented in a different way, or does it count as a "bug" on the
> > lpeg side?
> >
> > For example, I wouldn't expect a regexp "b+b" to fail on "bbb" just
> > because "b+" would eat all three "b"s at once (the regexp "b+b" in
> > fact finds "bbb", and I would expect a less-than-totally-greedy hit
> > with lpeg as well). Or is my reasoning wrong here?
>
> PEGs are greedy by design, which is a consequence of the fact that PEGS do
> not backtrack, which goes back to the underlying assumptive rule of PEGs
> that there is one (and only one!) ‘correct’ way to parse the input.
> Allowing backtracking destroys that assumption and by doing so would
> complicate the system to a level that would make it comparable to PCRE
> (with all the associated penalties on processing speed and a much greater
> codebase).
>

greedy vs non-greedy is one of the things that I always keep in mind when I
start with lpeg, and regularly I fail to apply -- because I think in the
"perl regex way".
Anyway,
http://www.gammon.com.au/lpeg
has some good lines:
e.g. this one (from the lpeg site) find the pattern anywhere in the line:

function anywhere (p)
  return lpeg.P { p + 1 * lpeg.V(1) }
end
print (lpeg.match (anywhere ("dog"), target))

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Re: [NTG-context] Install Problems with 64 bit ARM Linux

2020-11-28 Thread luigi scarso
On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 11:18 AM Hans Hagen  wrote:

> looks nice (specs and such) indeed, maybe as a next tablet (i haven't
> tested tex on the very old nexus in a while); probably a little faster
> than the rpi 4
>

these also look interesting
 e.g.
https://tinker-board.asus.com/prod_tinker-board-2s.html

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Re: [NTG-context] new upload

2020-11-26 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 6:10 PM Hans Hagen  wrote:

> On 11/26/2020 6:07 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> >
> >
> > Il Gio 26 Nov 2020, 18:00 Hans Hagen  > <mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> ha scritto:
> >
> > On 11/26/2020 5:10 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 5:00 PM Hans Hagen  > <mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>
> >  > <mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl <mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>>> wrote:
> >  >
> >  >   Of course, if they care about luatex cs support they
> >  > could send an M1 mini to Mojca for the compile farm for some
> real
> >  > testing.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > very likely luatex will run full native on M1 on next texlive,
> > following
> >  > http://www.tug.org/mactex/aboutarm.html
> > <http://www.tug.org/mactex/aboutarm.html>
> >  > <http://www.tug.org/mactex/aboutarm.html
> > <http://www.tug.org/mactex/aboutarm.html>>
> > that's with universal binaries (as happened before when apple
> switched
> > from powerpc to intel)
> >
> >
> > Full native:
> > """
> > Full native Arm support will arrive with MacTeX-2021 next spring.
> > """
>
> sure, but by using a unversal bin:
>

it's not bad,  13MB (or less, due the shared data) vs 6.5MB for downloading
is  still acceptable for the user.
Of course for the provider it doubles the space, but I fear that this
cannot be avoided for the next five years.

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Re: [NTG-context] new upload

2020-11-26 Thread luigi scarso
Il Gio 26 Nov 2020, 18:00 Hans Hagen  ha scritto:

> On 11/26/2020 5:10 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 5:00 PM Hans Hagen  > <mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> >
> >   Of course, if they care about luatex cs support they
> > could send an M1 mini to Mojca for the compile farm for some real
> > testing.
> >
> >
> > very likely luatex will run full native on M1 on next texlive, following
> > http://www.tug.org/mactex/aboutarm.html
> > <http://www.tug.org/mactex/aboutarm.html>
> that's with universal binaries (as happened before when apple switched
> from powerpc to intel)


Full native:
"""
Full native Arm support will arrive with MacTeX-2021 next spring.
"""

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Re: [NTG-context] new upload

2020-11-26 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 5:00 PM Hans Hagen  wrote:

>  Of course, if they care about luatex cs support they
> could send an M1 mini to Mojca for the compile farm for some real testing.
>

very likely luatex will run full native on M1 on next texlive, following
http://www.tug.org/mactex/aboutarm.html

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[NTG-context] Guit meeting 2020

2020-09-11 Thread luigi scarso
GuIT (Gruppo Utilizzatori Italiani di TeX, official Italian TUG) is pleased
to announce the GuITmeeting 2020, the 17th edition of the Italian
conference on TeX, LaTeX and digital typography.


The conference, organized by GuIT and  Sissa Medialab srl of Trieste, will
be held online on the 31st of October 2020. Attending the conference is
free of charge and it does not require registration. A link to follow the
oral presentations will be published shortly on the conference official
page.

Authors willing to give an oral presentation are kindly requested to send
their proposals in the form of a full article (in English or Italian) to
arstexn...@guitex.org by the 18th of October 2020. Notification of
acceptance will be sent by the 25th of October 2020. The accepted papers
will be published, after a peer-review process, in the autumn issue of
ArsTeXnica, the Italian journal of TeX, LaTeX. The LaTeX template for
preparing the article and further details can be found at
www.guitex.it/en/collabora-autori

We look forward to hearing from you!

https://www.guitex.org/home/en/guit-meeting-2020

A note about peer-review:
at
https://www.anvur.it/attivita/classificazione-delle-riviste/classificazione-delle-riviste-ai-fini-dellabilitazione-scientifica-nazionale/elenchi-di-riviste-scientifiche-e-di-classe-a/

under
A. Elenco delle riviste scientifiche
at
area 10 (Scienze dell'antichità, filologico-letterarie e storico-artistiche
/ Antiquities, philology, literary studies, art history)

and

area 11 (Scienze storiche, filosofiche, pedagogiche e psicologiche /
History, philosophy, education sciences).

there is a list of scientific journals, and there also  ARS TEXNICA
Articles are considered valid starting from 1 january 2016.


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Re: [NTG-context] Commands with arguments before in ConTeXt

2020-06-29 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 10:48 PM Jairo A. del Rio 
wrote:

> I've read the following is not possible in TeX
>
> \def#1\macro{blabla#1}
>
> where arguments come before. The only partial exceptions are commands like
> \atop or \over, which are in fact primitives. Is there a way to do this in
> ConTeXt?
>
>
you can build a lpeg and parse the your "extended tex" source, obtaining a
valid tex source.


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Re: [NTG-context] Installing on arm64

2020-06-10 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 9:07 PM Hans Hagen  wrote:

> On 6/10/2020 7:47 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 7:27 PM Hans Hagen  > <mailto:j.ha...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> >
> > On 6/10/2020 7:07 PM, Lutz Haseloff wrote:
> >  > I think, there is simply no rule for aarch64 in install.sh
> >  >
> >  > I now patched it in a better way.
> >
> > ok
> >
> >  > The binaries for aarch64 work like a charm on my device, a Samsung
> >  > Galaxy A50 Smartphone.
> > Does that really work well? I suppose the cpu and mem is ok, but how
> > about the disk. How do you edit on such a device?
> >
> >
> > doable from years already...
> > use termux
> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux=it
> > to run and  compile,
> > to cross-compile  you need to setup a tool chain for android using ndk.
> sure, i remember running a binary on the nexus made by harald years ago
> but i think i had to root the device first
>

no need to root  the device with termux.

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing on arm64

2020-06-10 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 7:27 PM Hans Hagen  wrote:

> On 6/10/2020 7:07 PM, Lutz Haseloff wrote:
> > I think, there is simply no rule for aarch64 in install.sh
> >
> > I now patched it in a better way.
>
> ok
>
> > The binaries for aarch64 work like a charm on my device, a Samsung
> > Galaxy A50 Smartphone.
> Does that really work well? I suppose the cpu and mem is ok, but how
> about the disk. How do you edit on such a device?
>

doable from years already...
use termux
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux=it
to run and  compile,
to cross-compile  you need to setup a tool chain for android using ndk.

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Re: [NTG-context] Checking existence of a macro (control sequence) by Lua

2020-05-27 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 12:43 AM  wrote:

> Off-topic:
your email are always marked as spam by my gmail . Are you sure that your
address setup is ok  ?

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Re: [NTG-context] bug in \doifinset

2020-05-27 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 11:28 PM Pablo Rodriguez  wrote:

>
> Without commas, lists are harder both to read and to write (at least, to
> me).
>
>

what about

\starttext
\startTEXpage[offset=1em]
\doifinsetelse{i7}{%
i4,%
i5,%
i7,%
}
{yes}{no}
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] METAPOST: How do I get this 'max' cutafter to work?

2020-04-22 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 9:30 AM Taco Hoekwater  wrote:

>
> In contrast, intersectionpoint finds the first intersection on the
> non-reversed paths, which
> is the base of the arrowhead.
>
>
IIrc ,  it's the first in shuffle order

@ Incidentally, if the given cubics intersect more than once, the process
just sketched will not necessarily find the lexicographically smallest pair
$(t_1,t_2)$. The solution actually obtained will be smallest in ``shuffled
order''; i.e., if $t_1=(.a_1a_2\ldots a_{16})_2$ and
$t_2=(.b_1b_2\ldots b_{16})_2$, then we will minimize
$a_1b_1a_2b_2\ldots a_{16}b_{16}$, not
$a_1a_2\ldots a_{16}b_1b_2\ldots b_{16}$.
Shuffled order agrees with lexicographic order if all pairs of solutions
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Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:08 AM Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

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>
> > Am 15.04.2020 um 22:52 schrieb denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org:
>
> I’m using a Python script to convert DOCX to ConTeXt.


c# under linux is also a valid option.

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[NTG-context] Luatex 1.12.0 announcement.

2020-03-30 Thread luigi scarso
==
LuaTeX 1.12.0 2020-03-15
==

This is the release for TeX live 2020.
--shell-restricted now forbids loading of dso (dll/so object)
Scaled virtual font
Aadditional primitives  \eTeXglue[stretch|shrink]order for querying order
the etex way.
Extra features runtoks
tex.getmodenames() (as these can differ per engine/version)
Permit nested runtoks in more complex situations of nesting (HH)
More accurate and correct test for tex.[set|get]math
Minor clean-up and bugs fixed

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Re: [NTG-context] Quizz

2020-03-17 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 9:40 AM Hans Hagen  wrote:

>
> I have no problem coming up with additional styles of code for remote
> learning and student support but it has to have some 'direction' and not
> be too random.
>
>
one constrain could be "it works under google chrome > Version
79.0.3945.130"
At least some it's some  grade of cross platforms, as  chrome seems to be
quite ubiquitous .
Kind of least common denominator.

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Re: [NTG-context] Quizz

2020-03-16 Thread luigi scarso
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 11:14 AM Hans Hagen  wrote:

> On 3/15/2020 10:34 AM, Fabrice Couvreur wrote:
> > Hi,
> > With the Coronavirus pandemic, my school will close like all the others.
> > We chose to work with Microsoft Teams. I know how to file Math exercises
> > written with ConteXt and export to pdf format. Is it possible with
> > ConteXt to create interactive Quizz?
> it should be doable (in the past we've made those with choice, fill in
> etc questions) but one problem with pdf is that there has been
> introduced some restrictions, for instance one cannot save in the reader
> so one then need to run a server that picks up the filled in stuff and
> regenerates a pdf file ... no big deal but i must admit that i don't
> have that code (if at all) around in loadable module form
>

In google chrome this seems to work, apart the choice fields (the choice
selected has the red frame but  it has  no mark inside):
https://martin-thoma.com/images/2012/02/pdf-form.pdf

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Re: [NTG-context] Quick question about dual output pdf and epub

2020-03-04 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 9:51 AM Hans Hagen  wrote:

>
> (in the meantime i actually gave away my ebook reader ... now i wait
> till color shows up in e-ink which might give me a reason to play a bit
> more)
>
>
https://news.lenovo.com/pressroom/press-releases/lenovo-unveils-preview-worlds-first-foldable-pc-thinkpad-x1-family/

>
sound quite interesting 

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Re: [NTG-context] Unicode 13 – save the \dodo!

2020-02-05 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 10:38 AM Arthur Reutenauer <
arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org> wrote:

>
>   Just for the record: it is not true at all that Unicode is “mostly
> emojis” nowadays.  Even today, the vast majority of characters added
> each year is 90% non-emoji.  I make this point at every ConTeXt meeting
> I attend, but it really seems nobody is listening ;-)
>

 I was.


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Re: [NTG-context] Transparency in PNGs becomes black in PDF/X

2019-12-20 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 11:00 AM Peter Rolf  wrote:

> Hi Hraban,
>
> PDF/X-1a:2001 doesn't support transparency. You have to use PDF/X-4(p)
> for that (the first X variant that supports transparency).
> PDF/A-2|3 may also be an option. These formats also support transparency.
>
>
> Peter
>
>
confirmed, this is ok.

\setupbackend[format=PDF/X-4p]

\starttext
\externalfigure[esel_kl.png]
\stoptext

>


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Re: [NTG-context] Bug: Segmentation fault

2019-12-11 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 12:10 AM Hans Hagen  wrote:

> On 12/11/2019 12:03 AM, luigi scarso wrote:
> > I guess that we have to check if catcodetable -1 is already defined...
> i already sent you a patch, probbaly also ok for trunk
>

Committed revision 7235.
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Re: [NTG-context] Bug: Segmentation fault

2019-12-11 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 1:28 AM Henri Menke  wrote:

> In this case I wanted to generate the thin space (\,).  My expectation
> (which worked elsewhere) was that full expansion will turn "\string\\,"
> into "\\," where the two backslashes have catcode 12 and will not be
> expanded further.  Then the Lua string will turn the escape sequence \\
> into a single backslash, therefore ending up with \, in the Lua string.
>
>


\directlua{token.set_macro("foo","\relax")}
(gdb) x/7c str
0x59376c18: 13 '\r' 101 'e' 108 'l' 97 'a'  120 'x' 32 ' '  0 '\000'
(gdb) p lstr
$24 = 6
where \foo is
 \foo=macro:
->#!.

vs
\directlua{token.set_macro("foo",[==[\relax]==])}
(gdb) x/8c str
0x59376ea8: 92 '\\' 114 'r' 101 'e' 108 'l' 97 'a'  120 'x' 32 ' '  0
'\000'
(gdb) p lstr
$25 = 7
\foo=macro:
->\relax .

Another example is
\directlua{token.set_macro("foo","\medskip")}\show\foo
which gives the error:   invalid escape sequence near '"^^Kskip \m'.
vs
\directlua{token.set_macro("foo",[==[\medskip]==])}\show\foo
 which gives
\foo=macro:
->\vskip \medskipamount .

Your example:
\directlua{token.set_macro("foo","\string\\,")}\show\foo
gives
(gdb) x/3c str
0x593765a8: 92 '\\' 44 ','  0 '\000'
(gdb) p lstr
$29 = 2
 \foo=macro:
->BAD,.

vs
\directlua{token.set_macro("foo",[==[\,]==])}\show\foo
(gdb) x/20c str
0x59376908: 92 '\\' 109 'm' 115 's' 107 'k' 105 'i' 112 'p' 32 ' '  92
'\\'
0x59376910: 116 't' 104 'h' 105 'i' 110 'n' 109 'm' 117 'u' 115 's' 107
'k'
0x59376918: 105 'i' 112 'p' 32 ' '  0 '\000'
(gdb) p lstr
$31 = 19
 \foo=macro:
->\mskip \thinmuskip .


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Re: [NTG-context] Bug: Segmentation fault

2019-12-10 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 12:10 AM Hans Hagen  wrote:

> On 12/11/2019 12:03 AM, luigi scarso wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 9:27 PM Henri Menke  > <mailto:henrime...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Dear devs,
> >
> > The example below crashes LuaTeX with a segmentation fault.  It is
> > reproducible
> > with LuaTeX 1.10.1 7143 and LuaTeX 1.11.2 7226.  To this end I built
> > 7226 from
> > source with --debugopt to get a backtrace, which can be found below
> > as well.
> >
> > Cheers, Henri
> >
> > ---
> >
> > \directlua{token.set_macro(-1, "foo","\string\\,")}
> > \show\foo
> > \foo
> > \bye
> >
> >
> > I guess that we have to check if catcodetable -1 is already defined...
> i already sent you a patch, probbaly also ok for trunk
>


yes, seen



> but one needs to be careful as fo rinstance \string\foo is seen as
> oo so often one also needs to escape properly
>

 I always start with  [==[ ... ]==]  ie
\directlua{token.set_macro(-1, [==[foo]==],[==[\string\\,]==])}
 gdb reports this [==[\string\\,]==] string as
 ","
which is an array of char of length 3 ie {'\\','\\',','}

With \directlua{token.set_macro(-1, [==[foo]==],"\string\\,")}
gdb reports "\\,"
ie {'\\','\,'}

I always check which one is the correct one...

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Re: [NTG-context] Bug: Segmentation fault

2019-12-10 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 9:27 PM Henri Menke  wrote:

> Dear devs,
>
> The example below crashes LuaTeX with a segmentation fault.  It is
> reproducible
> with LuaTeX 1.10.1 7143 and LuaTeX 1.11.2 7226.  To this end I built 7226
> from
> source with --debugopt to get a backtrace, which can be found below as
> well.
>
> Cheers, Henri
>
> ---
>
> \directlua{token.set_macro(-1, "foo","\string\\,")}
> \show\foo
> \foo
> \bye
>

I guess that we have to check if catcodetable -1 is already defined...

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Re: [NTG-context] Bug: Segmentation fault

2019-12-10 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 9:27 PM Henri Menke  wrote:

> Dear devs,
>
> The example below crashes LuaTeX with a segmentation fault.  It is
> reproducible
> with LuaTeX 1.10.1 7143 and LuaTeX 1.11.2 7226.  To this end I built 7226
> from
> source with --debugopt to get a backtrace, which can be found below as
> well.
>
>
confirmed, we will see asap
(btw,  I use --debug ie CFLAGS="-g -O0" because it's hard to follow the
flow of optimized code)


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Re: [NTG-context] PDF/A-3a attachment support query

2019-12-06 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 4:26 PM Peter Rolf  wrote:

>
> So we have only basic support for "PDF/A-3a", the more advanced features
> of that format are not supported yet. The main problem here is the
> lacking PDF/A documentation (ISO pay wall).
>

A complete installation of verapdf  has  a very detailed "documentation"
(sort of, it's embedded in the code) based on the ISO standard.

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[NTG-context] NewComputerModern

2019-11-24 Thread luigi scarso
https://ctan.org/pkg/newcomputermodern

"""
This is a new assembly of Computer Modern fonts plus glyphs for non latin
alphabets which are considered compatible in style to CM fonts.

The fonts contain Latin and accented Latin letters and combinations, Greek
(monotonic and polytonic), and Cyrillic.

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Re: [NTG-context] R module

2019-11-24 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 4:12 AM Aditya Mahajan  wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Nov 2019, Fabrice L wrote:
> > Thanks for your answer. I did not know about the filter module. I had a
> > look; the module is powerful… but complex to install.
>
> Why do you say so? If you are using context-minimals, then this can be
> installed like any other module. If you are using texlive, then can be
> installed using tlmgr.
>

I argue that talking of a ffi binding of R is out-of-question ...

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt as a service

2019-11-23 Thread luigi scarso
On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 1:02 PM Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

>
> Don’t exaggerate. Or maybe your company didn’t think about which tags are
> really necessary.
> A proper configuration that doesn’t allow nonsense, even if users paste
> text from Word documents, is not such a big effort.
>
> I can’t remember which JS editor I used >10 years ago for the editorial
> system of a city magazine, but I remember I only allowed a few tags
> (authors weren’t allowed to use font and color settings) and also run a
> HTML cleaner before saving. It was an effort until it worked, but not that
> much.
>

another link:
https://coko.foundation/
https://coko.foundation/product-suite/

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Re: [NTG-context] error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting

2019-11-13 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:11 PM Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

> contextjit or context —jit doesn’t work any more. Use just context.
>

I have just updated mkiv
mtx-context | current version: 2019.11.12 23:58
and contextjit  works.

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[NTG-context] MKIV: error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting

2019-11-13 Thread luigi scarso
sent from
cont...@rik.users.panix.com
Note from admin: the email is in defer state because
"Message body is too big: 159549 bytes with a limit of 100 KB"
I have kept the initial part.

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Dear list,

Since the 20191029 update I have not been able to create a document via
MKIV, suffering from the subject error message (error, no format found
with name: cont-en, aborting).

I have tried cache clearing, regeneration, and complete fresh installs.
None work. I suspect it is something on my system, but cannot think of a
relevant change except possibly a Win10-64 system update.

Attached is the log from the latest install try (with filenames of
copied files removed).

LMTX has no problems.

All suggestions welcome.

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[NTG-context] Luatex 1.11.1 announcement

2019-10-28 Thread luigi scarso
==
LuaTeX 1.11.1 2019-10-28
==

First release of luahbtex / luajithbtex,
luatex / luajittex with harfbuzz.
Small bug fixes, code clean up and a couple of new primitives
to match eTeX.
A new callback lua.getcodepage()  for diagnostic purposes.
*** DROPPED the   "page_objnum_provider" callback, replaced with
"page_order_index". ***
See ChangeLog and the manual.

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt groups supports "Public Money, Public Code"

2019-10-23 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 12:14 PM Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> the previous board of your ConTeXt group decided to support the campaign
> of Free Software Foundation Europe, “Public Software? Public Code!” (see
> https://publiccode.eu/), and we finally got confirmed.
>
>
the site say
PUBLIC MONEY PUBLIC CODE
(as in the subject)
not
“Public Software? Public Code!”


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Re: [NTG-context] columns and footnotes

2019-10-21 Thread luigi scarso
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 8:24 AM Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

> Hi again,
> I’m testing columns again, and before I publish an article on the subject,
> I’d like to check with you.
> Best, Hraban
>

Hi Hraban,
the attachment are  >100K,  I have made an exception but please try to stay
under 100K next time.

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Re: [NTG-context] LTMX crashes on OpenBSD 6.5 amd64

2019-10-20 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 12:22 PM Hans Hagen  wrote:

> On 10/20/2019 11:11 AM, Damien Thiriet wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > As I wrote yesterday, I have crashes on LTMX, openbsd6.5-amd64.
> > LTMX version:
>


> > Bus error (core dumped)
>

could be pplib related
Can you check also luatex mkiv ?


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