Re: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Peter Kramer]

Ben,
I don't have a script, but I have utilized the following product on my
network: Pasword Expiration Notifier from Netwrix. It is about $2-4 per user
login and is very configurable.
http://www.netwrix.com/password_expiration_notifier_freeware.html for the
free trial.

Pete Kramer
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 00:37, Ben N  wrote:

> great idea about the script to notify users.
>
> i will have to see about upgrading our exchange to SP3 then. I wish OWA
> would notify when they logged in too... I wish the VPN client could/did too.
>
> TS isn't an option for us as that access requires VPN to be on.
>
> Juniper SSL VPN does have a local client (Network Connect using java
> runtime) that runs and you can see the entries in route table (route print).
> But it's only running while logged in, like any other app. I heard there is
> a MSGINA add-on you can use, but it makes more issues than it fixes.
>
> I think it would be ideal to warn users 5-7 days ahead of time and to ask
> them to change password via TS or OWA. and will try to go down that route.
> If anyone has working examples in your enviroment. i'd love to see them if
> willing to share. Otherwise, i will do some searching around too.
>
> Thanks everyone who replied. You guys are an invaluable resource. I wish i
> could give back more.
>
> -BenN
>
>  On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Haritwal, Dhiraj <
> dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com> wrote:
>
>>  To notify them you can create a separate OU in AD, move those user in
>> that OU, schedule a VB script on your Exchange Server to run on that OU
>> every night which will create password expire date for those users by query
>> maxpasswordage & send them a mail that their password is going to expire in
>> n (in the script you can define if the mail should send from last 10 days or
>> so / pwdexpiredate-10)  number of days. Earlier I have done it for some of
>> our Workgroup users.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dhiraj
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:46 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>>
>>
>>
>> yeah locking, and unlocking with new password did the trick. sweet! Years
>> wasted not knowing this :) maybe it's a windows 7 thing, i don't know. So
>> what about when a user's password expires? What do you do for these external
>> users then? Far as i know Juniper SSL VPN won't let them logon. I think they
>> can logon to OWA, but it doesn't really tell them they need to change the
>> password.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Jimmy Tran  wrote:
>>
>> I was able to follow Glen’s instructions and it worked for me when connect
>> through network connect on the Juniper SSL VPN.  Give it a try Ben.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jimmy
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:30 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> *Subject:* RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>>
>>
>>
>> Don’t know about ssl vpn, but with a cisco ipsec vpn, connect via vpn,
>> lock the computer and unlock and if it’s time to change password, the laptop
>> will prompt to change it.
>>
>> If the password has already been changed via owa, login to the laptop
>> using old password, connect vpn, lock laptop and when it is unlocked it will
>> ask for current domain password.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:11 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>>
>>
>>
>> So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that
>> work primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect back
>> to us, but these laptops never actually make it back to our physical network
>> in most cases. We have these people change their password in OWA or via RDP
>> to a server, but that doesn't reflect back to the domain joined laptop they
>> are on until one day they actually show up at one of our offices
>>
>>
>>
>> I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough
>> that their current domain password would be required the next time they
>> logged into their laptops, but this isn't the case.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
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Re: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Ben N]

great idea about the script to notify users.

i will have to see about upgrading our exchange to SP3 then. I wish OWA
would notify when they logged in too... I wish the VPN client could/did too.

TS isn't an option for us as that access requires VPN to be on.

Juniper SSL VPN does have a local client (Network Connect using java
runtime) that runs and you can see the entries in route table (route print).
But it's only running while logged in, like any other app. I heard there is
a MSGINA add-on you can use, but it makes more issues than it fixes.

I think it would be ideal to warn users 5-7 days ahead of time and to ask
them to change password via TS or OWA. and will try to go down that route.
If anyone has working examples in your enviroment. i'd love to see them if
willing to share. Otherwise, i will do some searching around too.

Thanks everyone who replied. You guys are an invaluable resource. I wish i
could give back more.

-BenN

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Haritwal, Dhiraj <
dhiraj.harit...@ap.sony.com> wrote:

>  To notify them you can create a separate OU in AD, move those user in
> that OU, schedule a VB script on your Exchange Server to run on that OU
> every night which will create password expire date for those users by query
> maxpasswordage & send them a mail that their password is going to expire in
> n (in the script you can define if the mail should send from last 10 days or
> so / pwdexpiredate-10)  number of days. Earlier I have done it for some of
> our Workgroup users.
>
>
>
>
>
> Dhiraj
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:46 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>
>
>
> yeah locking, and unlocking with new password did the trick. sweet! Years
> wasted not knowing this :) maybe it's a windows 7 thing, i don't know. So
> what about when a user's password expires? What do you do for these external
> users then? Far as i know Juniper SSL VPN won't let them logon. I think they
> can logon to OWA, but it doesn't really tell them they need to change the
> password.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Jimmy Tran  wrote:
>
> I was able to follow Glen’s instructions and it worked for me when connect
> through network connect on the Juniper SSL VPN.  Give it a try Ben.
>
>
>
> Jimmy
>
>
>
> *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:30 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>
>
>
> Don’t know about ssl vpn, but with a cisco ipsec vpn, connect via vpn, lock
> the computer and unlock and if it’s time to change password, the laptop will
> prompt to change it.
>
> If the password has already been changed via owa, login to the laptop using
> old password, connect vpn, lock laptop and when it is unlocked it will ask
> for current domain password.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:11 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>
>
>
> So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that work
> primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect back to
> us, but these laptops never actually make it back to our physical network in
> most cases. We have these people change their password in OWA or via RDP to
> a server, but that doesn't reflect back to the domain joined laptop they are
> on until one day they actually show up at one of our offices
>
>
>
> I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough
> that their current domain password would be required the next time they
> logged into their laptops, but this isn't the case.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
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RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Haritwal, Dhiraj]

To notify them you can create a separate OU in AD, move those user in that OU, 
schedule a VB script on your Exchange Server to run on that OU every night 
which will create password expire date for those users by query maxpasswordage 
& send them a mail that their password is going to expire in n (in the script 
you can define if the mail should send from last 10 days or so / 
pwdexpiredate-10)  number of days. Earlier I have done it for some of our 
Workgroup users.


Dhiraj



From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

yeah locking, and unlocking with new password did the trick. sweet! Years 
wasted not knowing this :) maybe it's a windows 7 thing, i don't know. So what 
about when a user's password expires? What do you do for these external users 
then? Far as i know Juniper SSL VPN won't let them logon. I think they can 
logon to OWA, but it doesn't really tell them they need to change the password.


On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Jimmy Tran 
mailto:jt...@teachtci.com>> wrote:
I was able to follow Glen's instructions and it worked for me when connect 
through network connect on the Juniper SSL VPN.  Give it a try Ben.

Jimmy

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:30 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

Don't know about ssl vpn, but with a cisco ipsec vpn, connect via vpn, lock the 
computer and unlock and if it's time to change password, the laptop will prompt 
to change it.
If the password has already been changed via owa, login to the laptop using old 
password, connect vpn, lock laptop and when it is unlocked it will ask for 
current domain password.

From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that work 
primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect back to us, 
but these laptops never actually make it back to our physical network in most 
cases. We have these people change their password in OWA or via RDP to a 
server, but that doesn't reflect back to the domain joined laptop they are on 
until one day they actually show up at one of our offices

I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough that 
their current domain password would be required the next time they logged into 
their laptops, but this isn't the case.

Any ideas?

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RE: RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Crawford, Scott]

OWA 2003 would let you reset expired passwords, but 2007 and 2010 didnt get 
that functionality until SP3 and SP1 respectively.




From: Andrew S. Baker [asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 6:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network


OWA should have worked, unless my memory fails me.  TS definitely does.

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On Jan 11, 2011 6:36 PM, "Jimmy Tran" 
mailto:jt...@teachtci.com>> wrote:
> If the password is expired, Juniper will not let the user in. We
> recently set a password policy and the people who were locked out could
> not change their password in OWA. It wouldn't let them login. We had
> to manually change it for those users. To this day, we still do have a
> way of notifying those users that their passwords have expired.
>
>
>
> From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>
>
>
> yeah locking, and unlocking with new password did the trick. sweet!
> Years wasted not knowing this :) maybe it's a windows 7 thing, i don't
> know. So what about when a user's password expires? What do you do for
> these external users then? Far as i know Juniper SSL VPN won't let them
> logon. I think they can logon to OWA, but it doesn't really tell them
> they need to change the password.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Jimmy Tran 
> mailto:jt...@teachtci.com>> wrote:
>
> I was able to follow Glen's instructions and it worked for me when
> connect through network connect on the Juniper SSL VPN. Give it a try
> Ben.
>
>
>
> Jimmy
>
>
>
> From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:30 AM
>
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>
>
>
> Don't know about ssl vpn, but with a cisco ipsec vpn, connect via vpn,
> lock the computer and unlock and if it's time to change password, the
> laptop will prompt to change it.
>
> If the password has already been changed via owa, login to the laptop
> using old password, connect vpn, lock laptop and when it is unlocked it
> will ask for current domain password.
>
>
>
> From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:11 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>
>
>
> So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that
> work primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect
> back to us, but these laptops never actually make it back to our
> physical network in most cases. We have these people change their
> password in OWA or via RDP to a server, but that doesn't reflect back to
> the domain joined laptop they are on until one day they actually show up
> at one of our offices
>
>
>
> I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough
> that their current domain password would be required the next time they
> logged into their laptops, but this isn't the case.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
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RE: Domain and Forest Functional levels

[Brian Desmond]

I have no clue how ABE and DFS interact but on a normal file server it’s a 
server feature. I think they added it in SP1 for 2003.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

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From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Domain and Forest Functional levels

If I am reading correctly, the issue at hand is getting ABE with a domain-based 
DFS namespace in 2008 mode which requires WS2008 namespace servers, 2003 FFL 
and 2008DFL.

“I’m trying to get ABE working with DFS…”


http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc770287.aspx  notes the 
requirements Bonnie is citing


From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Domain and Forest Functional levels

Wait, you can't get Access Based Enumeration  working with Windows Server 2003 
Forest Functional level? It's my understanding that is a Windows Server 2003 
FFL attribute:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc784710(WS.10).aspx

Where did you see that it requires W2K8 R2?



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Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
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Phone: 610-807-6459
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From:Miller Bonnie L. 
mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu>>
To:"NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date:01/11/2011 04:40 PM
Subject:Domain and Forest Functional levels




We are currently running WS08 R2 schema (upgraded quite a while ago), but still 
sitting at WS03 functional levels for both the domain and forest settings.

I’m trying to get ABE working with DFS, and have discovered the domain 
functional level must be at WS08 minimum (amongst other things, including 
namespace migrations).

So, besides not being able to run a WS03 DC in WS08 functional mode or both 
WS03 and WS08 DCs in WS08 R2 functional mode, is there anything else that is 
LOST functionality?  I’m finding a lot of articles on how-to and what you can 
gain, but I want to make sure we won’t miss anything important that is in use.  
Still searching, but if you have any links or first-hand knowledge, I would 
appreciate it as it’s been many years since we’ve had to raise levels for a 
feature.

We are also running:
Exchange 2007 SP3
Sharepoint 2007 SP2
SCCM 2007 (R2 I think, can find out if it matters)

Thanks,
-Bonnie

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RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Ken Schaefer]

Has been there as far back as Windows XP. There's usually a little balloon that 
pops up in the notification tray that says "Windows needs your current 
credentials. Please lock and unlock your computer using your current Windows 
credentials" (or something similar).

Cheers
Ken

From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 12 January 2011 7:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

yeah locking, and unlocking with new password did the trick. sweet! Years 
wasted not knowing this :) maybe it's a windows 7 thing, i don't know. So what 
about when a user's password expires? What do you do for these external users 
then? Far as i know Juniper SSL VPN won't let them logon. I think they can 
logon to OWA, but it doesn't really tell them they need to change the password.


On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Jimmy Tran 
mailto:jt...@teachtci.com>> wrote:
I was able to follow Glen's instructions and it worked for me when connect 
through network connect on the Juniper SSL VPN.  Give it a try Ben.

Jimmy

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:30 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

Don't know about ssl vpn, but with a cisco ipsec vpn, connect via vpn, lock the 
computer and unlock and if it's time to change password, the laptop will prompt 
to change it.
If the password has already been changed via owa, login to the laptop using old 
password, connect vpn, lock laptop and when it is unlocked it will ask for 
current domain password.

From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that work 
primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect back to us, 
but these laptops never actually make it back to our physical network in most 
cases. We have these people change their password in OWA or via RDP to a 
server, but that doesn't reflect back to the domain joined laptop they are on 
until one day they actually show up at one of our offices

I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough that 
their current domain password would be required the next time they logged into 
their laptops, but this isn't the case.

Any ideas?

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Re: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Kurt Buff]

Oh - nice.

Kurt

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 15:16, Ben N  wrote:
> yeah locking, and unlocking with new password did the trick. sweet! Years
> wasted not knowing this :) maybe it's a windows 7 thing, i don't know. So
> what about when a user's password expires? What do you do for these external
> users then? Far as i know Juniper SSL VPN won't let them logon. I think they
> can logon to OWA, but it doesn't really tell them they need to change the
> password.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Jimmy Tran  wrote:
>>
>> I was able to follow Glen’s instructions and it worked for me when connect
>> through network connect on the Juniper SSL VPN.  Give it a try Ben.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jimmy
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:30 AM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>>
>>
>>
>> Don’t know about ssl vpn, but with a cisco ipsec vpn, connect via vpn,
>> lock the computer and unlock and if it’s time to change password, the laptop
>> will prompt to change it.
>>
>> If the password has already been changed via owa, login to the laptop
>> using old password, connect vpn, lock laptop and when it is unlocked it will
>> ask for current domain password.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:11 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>>
>>
>>
>> So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that
>> work primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect back
>> to us, but these laptops never actually make it back to our physical network
>> in most cases. We have these people change their password in OWA or via RDP
>> to a server, but that doesn't reflect back to the domain joined laptop they
>> are on until one day they actually show up at one of our offices
>>
>>
>>
>> I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough
>> that their current domain password would be required the next time they
>> logged into their laptops, but this isn't the case.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
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Re: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Kurt Buff]

This will depend on the style of VPN, more than the technology behind it.

By this I mean that it depends on whether the SSL VPN uses something
like SonicWall's NetXtender client (I'm sure other SSL VPN solution
providers use something similar), which is roughly equivalent to an
IPSec client, and provides a network connection in addition to, rather
than instead of, a web interface.

When outside the firewall and trying to connect back in, can you have
the user open a command prompt and do an 'ipconfig /all', and see a
virtual interface for the SSL VPN?

If you do, and if it has an IP address, then the client is working,
but you have some troubleshooting to do. If the user can't find one,
then you likely either 1) don't have the client installed or 2) some
other issue that's fubar'ing things.

Kurt

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:10, Ben N  wrote:
> So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that work
> primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect back to
> us, but these laptops never actually make it back to our physical network in
> most cases. We have these people change their password in OWA or via RDP to
> a server, but that doesn't reflect back to the domain joined laptop they are
> on until one day they actually show up at one of our offices
> I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough
> that their current domain password would be required the next time they
> logged into their laptops, but this isn't the case.
> Any ideas?
>
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Re: RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Andrew S. Baker]

OWA should have worked, unless my memory fails me.  TS definitely does.

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Sent from my Motorola Droid
 On Jan 11, 2011 6:36 PM, "Jimmy Tran"  wrote:
> If the password is expired, Juniper will not let the user in. We
> recently set a password policy and the people who were locked out could
> not change their password in OWA. It wouldn't let them login. We had
> to manually change it for those users. To this day, we still do have a
> way of notifying those users that their passwords have expired.
>
>
>
> From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>
>
>
> yeah locking, and unlocking with new password did the trick. sweet!
> Years wasted not knowing this :) maybe it's a windows 7 thing, i don't
> know. So what about when a user's password expires? What do you do for
> these external users then? Far as i know Juniper SSL VPN won't let them
> logon. I think they can logon to OWA, but it doesn't really tell them
> they need to change the password.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Jimmy Tran  wrote:
>
> I was able to follow Glen's instructions and it worked for me when
> connect through network connect on the Juniper SSL VPN. Give it a try
> Ben.
>
>
>
> Jimmy
>
>
>
> From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:30 AM
>
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>
>
>
> Don't know about ssl vpn, but with a cisco ipsec vpn, connect via vpn,
> lock the computer and unlock and if it's time to change password, the
> laptop will prompt to change it.
>
> If the password has already been changed via owa, login to the laptop
> using old password, connect vpn, lock laptop and when it is unlocked it
> will ask for current domain password.
>
>
>
> From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:11 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>
>
>
> So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that
> work primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect
> back to us, but these laptops never actually make it back to our
> physical network in most cases. We have these people change their
> password in OWA or via RDP to a server, but that doesn't reflect back to
> the domain joined laptop they are on until one day they actually show up
> at one of our offices
>
>
>
> I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough
> that their current domain password would be required the next time they
> logged into their laptops, but this isn't the case.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
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Re: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Andrew S. Baker]

This is not a Win 7 thing.  Done this since XP at least.

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Sent from my Motorola Droid
 On Jan 11, 2011 6:16 PM, "Ben N"  wrote:
> yeah locking, and unlocking with new password did the trick. sweet! Years
> wasted not knowing this :) maybe it's a windows 7 thing, i don't know. So
> what about when a user's password expires? What do you do for these
external
> users then? Far as i know Juniper SSL VPN won't let them logon. I think
they
> can logon to OWA, but it doesn't really tell them they need to change the
> password.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Jimmy Tran  wrote:
>
>> I was able to follow Glen’s instructions and it worked for me when
>> connect through network connect on the Juniper SSL VPN. Give it a try
Ben.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jimmy
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:30 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>>
>>
>>
>> Don’t know about ssl vpn, but with a cisco ipsec vpn, connect via vpn,
lock
>> the computer and unlock and if it’s time to change password, the laptop
will
>> prompt to change it.
>>
>> If the password has already been changed via owa, login to the laptop
using
>> old password, connect vpn, lock laptop and when it is unlocked it will
ask
>> for current domain password.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:11 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>>
>>
>>
>> So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that
work
>> primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect back
to
>> us, but these laptops never actually make it back to our physical network
in
>> most cases. We have these people change their password in OWA or via RDP
to
>> a server, but that doesn't reflect back to the domain joined laptop they
are
>> on until one day they actually show up at one of our offices
>>
>>
>>
>> I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough
>> that their current domain password would be required the next time they
>> logged into their laptops, but this isn't the case.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
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RE: Domain and Forest Functional levels

[Free, Bob]

If I am reading correctly, the issue at hand is getting ABE with a domain-based 
DFS namespace in 2008 mode which requires WS2008 namespace servers, 2003 FFL 
and 2008DFL.

“I’m trying to get ABE working with DFS…”


http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc770287.aspx  notes the 
requirements Bonnie is citing


From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Domain and Forest Functional levels

Wait, you can't get Access Based Enumeration  working with Windows Server 2003 
Forest Functional level? It's my understanding that is a Windows Server 2003 
FFL attribute:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc784710(WS.10).aspx

Where did you see that it requires W2K8 R2?



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Technical Support III
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003



From:Miller Bonnie L. 
To:"NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:01/11/2011 04:40 PM
Subject:Domain and Forest Functional levels




We are currently running WS08 R2 schema (upgraded quite a while ago), but still 
sitting at WS03 functional levels for both the domain and forest settings.

I’m trying to get ABE working with DFS, and have discovered the domain 
functional level must be at WS08 minimum (amongst other things, including 
namespace migrations).

So, besides not being able to run a WS03 DC in WS08 functional mode or both 
WS03 and WS08 DCs in WS08 R2 functional mode, is there anything else that is 
LOST functionality?  I’m finding a lot of articles on how-to and what you can 
gain, but I want to make sure we won’t miss anything important that is in use.  
Still searching, but if you have any links or first-hand knowledge, I would 
appreciate it as it’s been many years since we’ve had to raise levels for a 
feature.

We are also running:
Exchange 2007 SP3
Sharepoint 2007 SP2
SCCM 2007 (R2 I think, can find out if it matters)

Thanks,
-Bonnie

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RE: Security group question

[Crawford, Scott]

My bad, you want a /sub in there too.

FileACL D:\ /batch /sub | find /i "GROUPNAME_HERE"

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Security group question

I ran that command on the server in question, including the quotes around the 
group name, and it just went to the next line, with a command prompt.  There 
was no output.  I know that this group has permissions on the drive I'm looking 
at.

>>> "Crawford, Scott"  1/11/2011 11:02 AM >>>
Try:

FileACL D:\ /batch | find /i "GROUPNAME_HERE"

Won't be the prettiest output, but should show you every path that specific 
group has permissions to.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Security group question

I'm playing with fileacl a little.  Not able to get the /OUTPUT to work right, 
keeps saying "Cannot open output file c:\Temp\acl.txt for writing CreateFile 
error! (rc=123) The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is 
incorrect."

I've read the help file for /OUTPUT, and tried all the variations, all with the 
same result.  Does the file have to exist prior?  I assumed the program would 
create the text file for me.

Also, this tool seems to be for inputting a specific folder, and getting the 
accounts that have permissions.  I want to do the opposite.  I want to input an 
account, give it a file structure to search through (like the D: drive on a 
server), and get an output of all the folders this account has perms to, and 
what those perms are.

>>> "Michael B. Smith"  1/11/2011 8:47 AM >>>
You can do this with cacls / icacls, but google something called fileacl. It's 
easier to use.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com 


-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security group question

I have security group X.  I need to find out what directories this group has 
access to, and what those rights are.

Is there an easy way to do this?  Documentation is lacking in this area.



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RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Jimmy Tran]

If the password is expired, Juniper will not let the user in.  We
recently set a password policy and the people who were locked out could
not change their password in OWA.  It wouldn't let them login.  We had
to manually change it for those users.  To this day, we still do have a
way of notifying those users that their passwords have expired.

 

From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

 

yeah locking, and unlocking with new password did the trick. sweet!
Years wasted not knowing this :) maybe it's a windows 7 thing, i don't
know. So what about when a user's password expires? What do you do for
these external users then? Far as i know Juniper SSL VPN won't let them
logon. I think they can logon to OWA, but it doesn't really tell them
they need to change the password.

 

 

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Jimmy Tran  wrote:

I was able to follow Glen's instructions and it worked for me when
connect through network connect on the Juniper SSL VPN.  Give it a try
Ben.

 

Jimmy

 

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:30 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

 

Don't know about ssl vpn, but with a cisco ipsec vpn, connect via vpn,
lock the computer and unlock and if it's time to change password, the
laptop will prompt to change it.

If the password has already been changed via owa, login to the laptop
using old password, connect vpn, lock laptop and when it is unlocked it
will ask for current domain password.

 

From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

 

So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that
work primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect
back to us, but these laptops never actually make it back to our
physical network in most cases. We have these people change their
password in OWA or via RDP to a server, but that doesn't reflect back to
the domain joined laptop they are on until one day they actually show up
at one of our offices

 

I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough
that their current domain password would be required the next time they
logged into their laptops, but this isn't the case.

 

Any ideas?

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Re: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Ben N]

yeah locking, and unlocking with new password did the trick. sweet! Years
wasted not knowing this :) maybe it's a windows 7 thing, i don't know. So
what about when a user's password expires? What do you do for these external
users then? Far as i know Juniper SSL VPN won't let them logon. I think they
can logon to OWA, but it doesn't really tell them they need to change the
password.



On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Jimmy Tran  wrote:

>  I was able to follow Glen’s instructions and it worked for me when
> connect through network connect on the Juniper SSL VPN.  Give it a try Ben.
>
>
>
> Jimmy
>
>
>
> *From:* Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:30 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>
>
>
> Don’t know about ssl vpn, but with a cisco ipsec vpn, connect via vpn, lock
> the computer and unlock and if it’s time to change password, the laptop will
> prompt to change it.
>
> If the password has already been changed via owa, login to the laptop using
> old password, connect vpn, lock laptop and when it is unlocked it will ask
> for current domain password.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:11 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* domain joined laptops that aren't on your network
>
>
>
> So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that work
> primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect back to
> us, but these laptops never actually make it back to our physical network in
> most cases. We have these people change their password in OWA or via RDP to
> a server, but that doesn't reflect back to the domain joined laptop they are
> on until one day they actually show up at one of our offices
>
>
>
> I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough
> that their current domain password would be required the next time they
> logged into their laptops, but this isn't the case.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
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RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Jimmy Tran]

I was able to follow Glen's instructions and it worked for me when
connect through network connect on the Juniper SSL VPN.  Give it a try
Ben.

 

Jimmy

 

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

 

Don't know about ssl vpn, but with a cisco ipsec vpn, connect via vpn,
lock the computer and unlock and if it's time to change password, the
laptop will prompt to change it.

If the password has already been changed via owa, login to the laptop
using old password, connect vpn, lock laptop and when it is unlocked it
will ask for current domain password.

 

From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

 

So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that
work primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect
back to us, but these laptops never actually make it back to our
physical network in most cases. We have these people change their
password in OWA or via RDP to a server, but that doesn't reflect back to
the domain joined laptop they are on until one day they actually show up
at one of our offices

 

I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough
that their current domain password would be required the next time they
logged into their laptops, but this isn't the case.

 

Any ideas?

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Re: Laserjet 1220 install cd/iso

[Daniel Rodriguez]

You can download the PCL5/5e/6 and PS Drivers, but in order to use the
scanner you will need to order the CD.

http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=US&swItem=lj-6233-1

Place an order for the CD an select for PC. It should have the drivers on
that CD. Once you get the CD, go back to the HP Site and download the
appropriate, updated drivers.



On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:24 PM, N Parr  wrote:

>  XP, but there's only two CD's as far as I can tell.  One for PC and one
> for MAC.
>
>  --
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:23 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Laserjet 1220 install cd/iso
>
> Which OS is this going on?
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:17 PM, N Parr  wrote:
>
>>  I have an old one of these I need to hook up and you can't download the
>> scanner app/drivers from HP's web site any more.  It's the old 1200 with the
>> copy/scan attachment on the top.  So I need a copy of the original install
>> disk for PC.  Google isn't helping me at all, other than finding people with
>> the same problem.  Please email me off list if you can help.
>> Thanks
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Re: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Ben N]

windows 7

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> It should work with either IPsec or SSL VPNs, as I'm sure I've done it with
> both over the years.
>
> What version of Windows are they running?
>
>
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>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Ben N  wrote:
>
>> So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that
>> work primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect back
>> to us, but these laptops never actually make it back to our physical network
>> in most cases. We have these people change their password in OWA or via RDP
>> to a server, but that doesn't reflect back to the domain joined laptop they
>> are on until one day they actually show up at one of our offices
>>
>> I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough
>> that their current domain password would be required the next time they
>> logged into their laptops, but this isn't the case.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
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RE: Laserjet 1220 install cd/iso

[N Parr]

XP, but there's only two CD's as far as I can tell.  One for PC and one
for MAC.



From: Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Laserjet 1220 install cd/iso


Which OS is this going on?


On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:17 PM, N Parr  wrote:


I have an old one of these I need to hook up and you can't
download the scanner app/drivers from HP's web site any more.  It's the
old 1200 with the copy/scan attachment on the top.  So I need a copy of
the original install disk for PC.  Google isn't helping me at all, other
than finding people with the same problem.  Please email me off list if
you can help.
Thanks

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Re: Laserjet 1220 install cd/iso

[Daniel Rodriguez]

Which OS is this going on?

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:17 PM, N Parr  wrote:

>  I have an old one of these I need to hook up and you can't download the
> scanner app/drivers from HP's web site any more.  It's the old 1200 with the
> copy/scan attachment on the top.  So I need a copy of the original install
> disk for PC.  Google isn't helping me at all, other than finding people with
> the same problem.  Please email me off list if you can help.
> Thanks
>
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Re: Domain and Forest Functional levels

[Christopher Bodnar]

Wait, you can't get Access Based Enumeration  working with Windows Server 
2003 Forest Functional level? It's my understanding that is a Windows 
Server 2003 FFL attribute:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc784710(WS.10).aspx

Where did you see that it requires W2K8 R2? 



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From:   Miller Bonnie L. 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:   01/11/2011 04:40 PM
Subject:Domain and Forest Functional levels



We are currently running WS08 R2 schema (upgraded quite a while ago), but 
still sitting at WS03 functional levels for both the domain and forest 
settings.
 
I’m trying to get ABE working with DFS, and have discovered the domain 
functional level must be at WS08 minimum (amongst other things, including 
namespace migrations).
 
So, besides not being able to run a WS03 DC in WS08 functional mode or 
both WS03 and WS08 DCs in WS08 R2 functional mode, is there anything else 
that is LOST functionality?  I’m finding a lot of articles on how-to and 
what you can gain, but I want to make sure we won’t miss anything 
important that is in use.  Still searching, but if you have any links or 
first-hand knowledge, I would appreciate it as it’s been many years since 
we’ve had to raise levels for a feature.
 
We are also running:
Exchange 2007 SP3
Sharepoint 2007 SP2
SCCM 2007 (R2 I think, can find out if it matters)
 
Thanks,
-Bonnie
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Laserjet 1220 install cd/iso

[N Parr]

I have an old one of these I need to hook up and you can't download the
scanner app/drivers from HP's web site any more.  It's the old 1200 with
the copy/scan attachment on the top.  So I need a copy of the original
install disk for PC.  Google isn't helping me at all, other than finding
people with the same problem.  Please email me off list if you can help.
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RE: Domain and Forest Functional levels

[Brian Desmond]

There's a sizeable perf hit with ABE so I'd make sure it will scale in your 
environment...

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

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From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Domain and Forest Functional levels

You lose NTLMv1 by default, plus some security switches flip up to "more 
secure".

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Domain and Forest Functional levels

We are currently running WS08 R2 schema (upgraded quite a while ago), but still 
sitting at WS03 functional levels for both the domain and forest settings.

I'm trying to get ABE working with DFS, and have discovered the domain 
functional level must be at WS08 minimum (amongst other things, including 
namespace migrations).

So, besides not being able to run a WS03 DC in WS08 functional mode or both 
WS03 and WS08 DCs in WS08 R2 functional mode, is there anything else that is 
LOST functionality?  I'm finding a lot of articles on how-to and what you can 
gain, but I want to make sure we won't miss anything important that is in use.  
Still searching, but if you have any links or first-hand knowledge, I would 
appreciate it as it's been many years since we've had to raise levels for a 
feature.

We are also running:
Exchange 2007 SP3
Sharepoint 2007 SP2
SCCM 2007 (R2 I think, can find out if it matters)

Thanks,
-Bonnie

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Re: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

and, + 1 million on that...

Every IT shop should have one.  Its very light and relatively small, so its
relatively easy to bring around on-site as well.

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On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:24 PM, David Lum  wrote:

> As an IT consultant by night, worth much more than I paid! System won’t
> boot, drop the drive in that bay and 9 times out of 10 I can get all the
> users data from it and about ½ the time get the drive to be able to be
> usable (boot) again.
>
>
>
> Dave
>

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RE: Domain and Forest Functional levels

[Michael B. Smith]

You lose NTLMv1 by default, plus some security switches flip up to "more 
secure".

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Domain and Forest Functional levels

We are currently running WS08 R2 schema (upgraded quite a while ago), but still 
sitting at WS03 functional levels for both the domain and forest settings.

I'm trying to get ABE working with DFS, and have discovered the domain 
functional level must be at WS08 minimum (amongst other things, including 
namespace migrations).

So, besides not being able to run a WS03 DC in WS08 functional mode or both 
WS03 and WS08 DCs in WS08 R2 functional mode, is there anything else that is 
LOST functionality?  I'm finding a lot of articles on how-to and what you can 
gain, but I want to make sure we won't miss anything important that is in use.  
Still searching, but if you have any links or first-hand knowledge, I would 
appreciate it as it's been many years since we've had to raise levels for a 
feature.

We are also running:
Exchange 2007 SP3
Sharepoint 2007 SP2
SCCM 2007 (R2 I think, can find out if it matters)

Thanks,
-Bonnie

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Domain and Forest Functional levels

[Miller Bonnie L .]

We are currently running WS08 R2 schema (upgraded quite a while ago), but still 
sitting at WS03 functional levels for both the domain and forest settings.

I'm trying to get ABE working with DFS, and have discovered the domain 
functional level must be at WS08 minimum (amongst other things, including 
namespace migrations).

So, besides not being able to run a WS03 DC in WS08 functional mode or both 
WS03 and WS08 DCs in WS08 R2 functional mode, is there anything else that is 
LOST functionality?  I'm finding a lot of articles on how-to and what you can 
gain, but I want to make sure we won't miss anything important that is in use.  
Still searching, but if you have any links or first-hand knowledge, I would 
appreciate it as it's been many years since we've had to raise levels for a 
feature.

We are also running:
Exchange 2007 SP3
Sharepoint 2007 SP2
SCCM 2007 (R2 I think, can find out if it matters)

Thanks,
-Bonnie

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RE: Security group question

[Joseph Heaton]

I ran that command on the server in question, including the quotes around the 
group name, and it just went to the next line, with a command prompt.  There 
was no output.  I know that this group has permissions on the drive I'm looking 
at.

>>> "Crawford, Scott"  1/11/2011 11:02 AM >>>
Try:

FileACL D:\ /batch | find /i "GROUPNAME_HERE"

Won't be the prettiest output, but should show you every path that specific 
group has permissions to.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Security group question

I'm playing with fileacl a little.  Not able to get the /OUTPUT to work right, 
keeps saying "Cannot open output file c:\Temp\acl.txt for writing CreateFile 
error! (rc=123) The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is 
incorrect."

I've read the help file for /OUTPUT, and tried all the variations, all with the 
same result.  Does the file have to exist prior?  I assumed the program would 
create the text file for me.

Also, this tool seems to be for inputting a specific folder, and getting the 
accounts that have permissions.  I want to do the opposite.  I want to input an 
account, give it a file structure to search through (like the D: drive on a 
server), and get an output of all the folders this account has perms to, and 
what those perms are.

>>> "Michael B. Smith"  1/11/2011 8:47 AM >>>
You can do this with cacls / icacls, but google something called fileacl. It's 
easier to use.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
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-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security group question

I have security group X.  I need to find out what directories this group has 
access to, and what those rights are.

Is there an easy way to do this?  Documentation is lacking in this area.



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RE: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

[David Lum]

+ 1 million on this, I have one too and it's nice to have the SATA speed and be 
able to simply pop in an old SATA drive and grab the data off, or attached it 
to USB when you take it someplace.

As an IT consultant by night, worth much more than I paid! System won't boot, 
drop the drive in that bay and 9 times out of 10 I can get all the users data 
from it and about ½ the time get the drive to be able to be usable (boot) again.

Dave

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

I have a BlacX Duet (dual dock) by Thermaltake. It supports USB and eSATA.  USB 
for versatility; eSATA for performance. I wouldnt recommend pidgeon-holing 
yourself with only one technology.

Its been a very useful tool, especially when transferring SATA-to-SATA (not 
within the same dock). SATA to SATA can considerably faster than having USB in 
the mix, but YMMV depending on your hardware.

I picked up mine on NewEgg.

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On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Jonathan Link 
mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Looking at getting one of these.  I've actually thought about one for a while, 
but I'm kinda in analysis paralysis and can't decide on what to get.  I can 
spend a  on a sander and a dust extractor, but a small purchase like this 
ties me up in knots.  What's the community using?



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Re: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Andrew S. Baker]

It should work with either IPsec or SSL VPNs, as I'm sure I've done it with
both over the years.

What version of Windows are they running?


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On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Ben N  wrote:

> So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that work
> primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect back to
> us, but these laptops never actually make it back to our physical network in
> most cases. We have these people change their password in OWA or via RDP to
> a server, but that doesn't reflect back to the domain joined laptop they are
> on until one day they actually show up at one of our offices
>
> I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough
> that their current domain password would be required the next time they
> logged into their laptops, but this isn't the case.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>

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RE: who is denying my access

[Erik Goldoff]

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963887 

 

 

Erik Goldoff

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Systems, Networks, & Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: who is denying my access

 

I know this has been mentioned here in the past and is probably chronicled
on the interwebs too, but I think my google foo is being thwarted by too
many common terms.

 

situation:  program is not starting unless run as administrator.  

Normally I would just grant full control to domain users for the program's
install directory.  But this time it isn't working.

 

How can I tell which file, or directory is thwarting my non-admins?  I
thought it was pslist or psfile, but either pstools isn't the answer or I'm
not looking in the right spot.

 

Any Help?

 

Thanks, 

-Bill

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RE: who is denying my access

[Erik Goldoff]

Used to be filemon and regmon, but they have been superceded by processmon

 

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From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: who is denying my access

 

I know this has been mentioned here in the past and is probably chronicled
on the interwebs too, but I think my google foo is being thwarted by too
many common terms.

 

situation:  program is not starting unless run as administrator.  

Normally I would just grant full control to domain users for the program's
install directory.  But this time it isn't working.

 

How can I tell which file, or directory is thwarting my non-admins?  I
thought it was pslist or psfile, but either pstools isn't the answer or I'm
not looking in the right spot.

 

Any Help?

 

Thanks, 

-Bill

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Re: who is denying my access

[Bill Songstad]

Thank you gentlemen.  I was starting to get cranky with my searching
ineptness.

-Bill

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Kennedy, Jim  wrote:

>  Procmon and regmon from SysInternals
>
>
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645
>
>
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896652
>
>
>
> *From:* Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:20 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* who is denying my access
>
>
>
> I know this has been mentioned here in the past and is probably chronicled
> on the interwebs too, but I think my google foo is being thwarted by too
> many common terms.
>
>
>
> situation:  program is not starting unless run as administrator.
>
> Normally I would just grant full control to domain users for the program's
> install directory.  But this time it isn't working.
>
>
>
> How can I tell which file, or directory is thwarting my non-admins?  I
> thought it was pslist or psfile, but either pstools isn't the answer or I'm
> not looking in the right spot.
>
>
>
> Any Help?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Bill
>
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Re: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

I have a BlacX Duet (dual dock) by Thermaltake. It supports USB and eSATA.
USB for versatility; eSATA for performance. I wouldnt recommend
pidgeon-holing yourself with only one technology.

Its been a very useful tool, especially when transferring SATA-to-SATA (not
within the same dock). SATA to SATA can considerably faster than having USB
in the mix, but YMMV depending on your hardware.

I picked up mine on NewEgg.

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On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> Looking at getting one of these.  I've actually thought about one for a
> while, but I'm kinda in analysis paralysis and can't decide on what to get.
> I can spend a  on a sander and a dust extractor, but a small purchase
> like this ties me up in knots.  What's the community using?
>
>
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RE: who is denying my access

[Kennedy, Jim]

Procmon and regmon from SysInternals

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896652

From: Bill Songstad [mailto:bsongs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: who is denying my access

I know this has been mentioned here in the past and is probably chronicled on 
the interwebs too, but I think my google foo is being thwarted by too many 
common terms.

situation:  program is not starting unless run as administrator.
Normally I would just grant full control to domain users for the program's 
install directory.  But this time it isn't working.

How can I tell which file, or directory is thwarting my non-admins?  I thought 
it was pslist or psfile, but either pstools isn't the answer or I'm not looking 
in the right spot.

Any Help?

Thanks,
-Bill

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Re: who is denying my access

[James Rankin]

Process Monitor or LUA Buglight will do you here

Check the Registry keys under HKLM\Software as well

On 11 January 2011 19:19, Bill Songstad  wrote:

> I know this has been mentioned here in the past and is probably chronicled
> on the interwebs too, but I think my google foo is being thwarted by too
> many common terms.
>
> situation:  program is not starting unless run as administrator.
> Normally I would just grant full control to domain users for the program's
> install directory.  But this time it isn't working.
>
> How can I tell which file, or directory is thwarting my non-admins?  I
> thought it was pslist or psfile, but either pstools isn't the answer or I'm
> not looking in the right spot.
>
> Any Help?
>
> Thanks,
> -Bill
>
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who is denying my access

[Bill Songstad]

I know this has been mentioned here in the past and is probably chronicled
on the interwebs too, but I think my google foo is being thwarted by too
many common terms.

situation:  program is not starting unless run as administrator.
Normally I would just grant full control to domain users for the program's
install directory.  But this time it isn't working.

How can I tell which file, or directory is thwarting my non-admins?  I
thought it was pslist or psfile, but either pstools isn't the answer or I'm
not looking in the right spot.

Any Help?

Thanks,
-Bill

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Re: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

[Jonathan Link]

Thanks for confirming my selection, I appreciate it.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Martin Blackstone wrote:

>  That’s what I have.
>
> +1
>
>
>
> *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:26 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)
>
>
>
> I have one of these, got it with a 1TB drive for around $80, it works great
> on both 2.5 and 3.5 drives, YMMV
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153071
>
>
>
>
>
>  *John W. Cook*
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
> *From:* S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:20 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)
>
>
>
> it depends on the usage, I have some spare SATA drives I use from time to
> time, and have an "el cheapo" usb connector that works just fine.
>
>
>
> i'd recommend a sturdy one if you are going to use it frequently.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Google  Learn it. Live it. Love it.
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:09, Jim McAtee  wrote:
>
> I've never used one.  I either buy external disks already in enclosures or
> buy enclosures for bare drives.  USB, since it's more universal.
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Link" <
> jonathan.l...@gmail.com>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:20 AM
> Subject: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)
>
> Looking at getting one of these.  I've actually thought about one for a
> while, but I'm kinda in analysis paralysis and can't decide on what to get.
> I can spend a  on a sander and a dust extractor, but a small purchase
> like this ties me up in knots.  What's the community using?
>
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RE: Security group question

[Crawford, Scott]

Try:

FileACL D:\ /batch | find /i "GROUPNAME_HERE"

Won't be the prettiest output, but should show you every path that specific 
group has permissions to.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Security group question

I'm playing with fileacl a little.  Not able to get the /OUTPUT to work right, 
keeps saying "Cannot open output file c:\Temp\acl.txt for writing CreateFile 
error! (rc=123) The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is 
incorrect."

I've read the help file for /OUTPUT, and tried all the variations, all with the 
same result.  Does the file have to exist prior?  I assumed the program would 
create the text file for me.

Also, this tool seems to be for inputting a specific folder, and getting the 
accounts that have permissions.  I want to do the opposite.  I want to input an 
account, give it a file structure to search through (like the D: drive on a 
server), and get an output of all the folders this account has perms to, and 
what those perms are.

>>> "Michael B. Smith"  1/11/2011 8:47 AM >>>
You can do this with cacls / icacls, but google something called fileacl. It's 
easier to use.

Regards,

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Consultant and Exchange MVP
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From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security group question

I have security group X.  I need to find out what directories this group has 
access to, and what those rights are.

Is there an easy way to do this?  Documentation is lacking in this area.



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RE: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

[Martin Blackstone]

That's what I have.

+1

 

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

 

I have one of these, got it with a 1TB drive for around $80, it works great
on both 2.5 and 3.5 drives, YMMV

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153071

 

 

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System Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

5950 NW 1st Place

Gainesville, Fl 32607

Cell (352) 215-6944

MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

 

From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

 

it depends on the usage, I have some spare SATA drives I use from time to
time, and have an "el cheapo" usb connector that works just fine. 

 

i'd recommend a sturdy one if you are going to use it frequently.

 




 

 

Google  Learn it. Live it. Love it.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:09, Jim McAtee  wrote:

I've never used one.  I either buy external disks already in enclosures or
buy enclosures for bare drives.  USB, since it's more universal.


- Original Message - From: "Jonathan Link" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:20 AM
Subject: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

Looking at getting one of these.  I've actually thought about one for a
while, but I'm kinda in analysis paralysis and can't decide on what to get.
I can spend a  on a sander and a dust extractor, but a small purchase
like this ties me up in knots.  What's the community using? 



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RE: Security group question

[Joseph Heaton]

I'm playing with fileacl a little.  Not able to get the /OUTPUT to work right, 
keeps saying "Cannot open output file c:\Temp\acl.txt for writing CreateFile 
error! (rc=123) The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is 
incorrect."

I've read the help file for /OUTPUT, and tried all the variations, all with the 
same result.  Does the file have to exist prior?  I assumed the program would 
create the text file for me.

Also, this tool seems to be for inputting a specific folder, and getting the 
accounts that have permissions.  I want to do the opposite.  I want to input an 
account, give it a file structure to search through (like the D: drive on a 
server), and get an output of all the folders this account has perms to, and 
what those perms are.

>>> "Michael B. Smith"  1/11/2011 8:47 AM >>>
You can do this with cacls / icacls, but google something called fileacl. It's 
easier to use.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com 


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Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security group question

I have security group X.  I need to find out what directories this group has 
access to, and what those rights are.

Is there an easy way to do this?  Documentation is lacking in this area.



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RE: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

[Bob Fronk]

I use the Thermaltake BlackXDuet.  Esata and USB.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153112


BF

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

Indeed, one of the reasons I sent my info request to this list, rather than 
just rely on the user reviews on various websites... :-)



On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:19 PM, S Powell 
mailto:powe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
it depends on the usage, I have some spare SATA drives I use from time to time, 
and have an "el cheapo" usb connector that works just fine.

i'd recommend a sturdy one if you are going to use it frequently.




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On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:09, Jim McAtee mailto:j...@zolx.com>> 
wrote:
I've never used one.  I either buy external disks already in enclosures or buy 
enclosures for bare drives.  USB, since it's more universal.


- Original Message - From: "Jonathan Link" 
mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:20 AM
Subject: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

Looking at getting one of these.  I've actually thought about one for a
while, but I'm kinda in analysis paralysis and can't decide on what to get.
I can spend a  on a sander and a dust extractor, but a small purchase
like this ties me up in knots.  What's the community using?


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RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Glen Johnson]

Don't know about ssl vpn, but with a cisco ipsec vpn, connect via vpn, lock the 
computer and unlock and if it's time to change password, the laptop will prompt 
to change it.
If the password has already been changed via owa, login to the laptop using old 
password, connect vpn, lock laptop and when it is unlocked it will ask for 
current domain password.

From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that work 
primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect back to us, 
but these laptops never actually make it back to our physical network in most 
cases. We have these people change their password in OWA or via RDP to a 
server, but that doesn't reflect back to the domain joined laptop they are on 
until one day they actually show up at one of our offices

I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough that 
their current domain password would be required the next time they logged into 
their laptops, but this isn't the case.

Any ideas?

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RE: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Jimmy Tran]

I'm in the same boat as you.  I just leave them on a workgroup.  I
believe the only way the local machine will update the login password is
actually by authenticating with it while in the domain or on vpn.  Since
the juniper is web-based and dependent on the user login, there is no
way to be connected to the vpn and allow the user to login on their
machine to update the cached password.

 

 

 

From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

 

So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that
work primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect
back to us, but these laptops never actually make it back to our
physical network in most cases. We have these people change their
password in OWA or via RDP to a server, but that doesn't reflect back to
the domain joined laptop they are on until one day they actually show up
at one of our offices

 

I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough
that their current domain password would be required the next time they
logged into their laptops, but this isn't the case.

 

Any ideas?

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Re: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

[Jonathan Link]

Indeed, one of the reasons I sent my info request to this list, rather than
just rely on the user reviews on various websites... :-)



On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:19 PM, S Powell  wrote:

> it depends on the usage, I have some spare SATA drives I use from time to
> time, and have an "el cheapo" usb connector that works just fine.
>
> i'd recommend a sturdy one if you are going to use it frequently.
>
>
>
>
> Google  Learn it. Live it. Love it.
>
>
>  On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:09, Jim McAtee  wrote:
>
>> I've never used one.  I either buy external disks already in enclosures or
>> buy enclosures for bare drives.  USB, since it's more universal.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Link" <
>> jonathan.l...@gmail.com>
>> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:20 AM
>> Subject: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)
>>
>>
>>  Looking at getting one of these.  I've actually thought about one for a
>>> while, but I'm kinda in analysis paralysis and can't decide on what to
>>> get.
>>> I can spend a  on a sander and a dust extractor, but a small purchase
>>> like this ties me up in knots.  What's the community using?
>>>
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RE: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

[John Cook]

I have one of these, got it with a 1TB drive for around $80, it works great on 
both 2.5 and 3.5 drives, YMMV
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153071


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From: S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

it depends on the usage, I have some spare SATA drives I use from time to time, 
and have an "el cheapo" usb connector that works just fine.

i'd recommend a sturdy one if you are going to use it frequently.




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On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:09, Jim McAtee mailto:j...@zolx.com>> 
wrote:
I've never used one.  I either buy external disks already in enclosures or buy 
enclosures for bare drives.  USB, since it's more universal.


- Original Message - From: "Jonathan Link" 
mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:20 AM
Subject: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

Looking at getting one of these.  I've actually thought about one for a
while, but I'm kinda in analysis paralysis and can't decide on what to get.
I can spend a  on a sander and a dust extractor, but a small purchase
like this ties me up in knots.  What's the community using?


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Re: domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Jonathan Link]

Does the Juniper have some sort of client or it entirely web based?
We have a Sonicwall SSL-VPN 2000 and I have users change the password from
the security menu/screen when connected via the NetExtender client.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Ben N  wrote:

> So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that work
> primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect back to
> us, but these laptops never actually make it back to our physical network in
> most cases. We have these people change their password in OWA or via RDP to
> a server, but that doesn't reflect back to the domain joined laptop they are
> on until one day they actually show up at one of our offices
>
> I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough
> that their current domain password would be required the next time they
> logged into their laptops, but this isn't the case.
>
> Any ideas?
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Re: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

[S Powell]

it depends on the usage, I have some spare SATA drives I use from time to
time, and have an "el cheapo" usb connector that works just fine.

i'd recommend a sturdy one if you are going to use it frequently.




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On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:09, Jim McAtee  wrote:

> I've never used one.  I either buy external disks already in enclosures or
> buy enclosures for bare drives.  USB, since it's more universal.
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Link" <
> jonathan.l...@gmail.com>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:20 AM
> Subject: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)
>
>
>  Looking at getting one of these.  I've actually thought about one for a
>> while, but I'm kinda in analysis paralysis and can't decide on what to
>> get.
>> I can spend a  on a sander and a dust extractor, but a small purchase
>> like this ties me up in knots.  What's the community using?
>>
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Re: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

[Hank .]

I have a Startech SATADOCKU2E on this computer. It has both eSATA and USB
and accommodates 2.5 & 3.5" drives. It replaces a SATA drive in an external
enclosure that would simply disappear.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> Looking at getting one of these.  I've actually thought about one for a
> while, but I'm kinda in analysis paralysis and can't decide on what to get.
> I can spend a  on a sander and a dust extractor, but a small purchase
> like this ties me up in knots.  What's the community using?
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Re: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

[Jim McAtee]

I've never used one.  I either buy external disks already in enclosures or 
buy enclosures for bare drives.  USB, since it's more universal.



- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan Link" 

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:20 AM
Subject: HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)



Looking at getting one of these.  I've actually thought about one for a
while, but I'm kinda in analysis paralysis and can't decide on what to 
get.
I can spend a  on a sander and a dust extractor, but a small 
purchase
like this ties me up in knots.  What's the community using? 



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RE: domain controller in the cloud???

[Ziots, Edward]

Brings up a good point, that Identity and Access Management is a big
thing in the cloud, which means your authentication, authorization and
access requirements will go up, along with the right to Audit. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???


If you decide to go cloud, this is a domain controller in the cloud

http://www.okta.com/ 

Warm regards,

Stu


-Original Message-
From: techconnect [mailto:techconn...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: domain controller in the cloud???

We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he
says everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user
folders, authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're
using, they want to move to gmail but there's no central management
there I know of,and offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400
students and faculty and they want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I
think without understanding everything about it(I'm not entirely clear
either) and was looking for thoughts and opinions or resources.

Thanks,
Jason
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RE: domain controller in the cloud???

[Ziots, Edward]

You would be surprised that some can't when you look at them closely. Either 
that or the vendors can't prove it. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

 

Yeah. Any real EMR will meet those criteria. We have audit trails the likes of 
which you wouldn't believe (or then again maybe you would). We can, have, and 
will terminate employment for anyone caught looking where they shouldn't.

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

 

Aren't EMR's fun. 

 

Now add the auditing requirements that tell whom looked and or updated any 
patient record ( by field, with old values and new values) and keep that for 
the life of the patient, and there you have a real treat. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

 

We digitized the "pertinent" [1] information from the old charts, and are 
storing the paper for an as yet undetermined amount of time. 

 

However, nothing new is being added to the old chart. So, it is entirely 
possible that we have patients approaching 2 years old that have no physical 
paper trail whatsoever as far as medical history within our organization goes, 
except for any paper statements that may have been mailed out.

 

[1] - last physical, medication lists, known drug allergies, etc - and anything 
else the physician deemed important enough to scan in.

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  



From: Charles Whitby [mailto:charles.whi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

 

Sleep robbing, becoming a third world country overnight kinda scary.

In your move to all electronic did you digitize all of your old dead-tree 
charts?

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle  
wrote:

That was actually the first thing that came to mind, followed closely by some 
act of war/terrorism, or some kind of nuclear "accident".

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com 



From: Charles Whitby [mailto:charles.whi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

 

Coronal Mass Ejection for instance?

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle  
wrote:

"It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the technology for its 
technical merits."


I know that feeling, that's for sure. I've just converted a 70 doc medical 
practice to an all electronic system, of which I was and still am a strong 
advocate. Paper charts here are, for all intents and purposes, a thing of the 
past. It's great, access to information (potentially lifesaving) is almost 
instantaneous from anywhere in the world as long as you've got a decent 
internet connection and can run a Citrix plugin. It's great - as long as it is 
accessible.

 

However, I have this sinking feeling that one day, something cataclysmic will 
happen and nothing (electronic) will work. Maybe in the next few years, maybe 
not. Either for a prolonged period of time, or even indefinitely. Perhaps it 
will be a localized event that will take our data center down, or maybe 
something on a larger scale - conspiracy theories abound about end of days type 
stuff. Just because it has never happened in our recorded history, does that 
make it really so far fetched? No, I'm not off the deep end (at least not yet 
anyway), but us making ourselves more and more dependent on technology (not to 
mention the government) can and does have its drawbacks...

 

Kinda funny how we can paint ourselves into a corner, isn't it?

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com 



From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:55

domain joined laptops that aren't on your network

[Ben N]

So we setup domain joined laptops and then ship them out to users that work
primarily from home. They then use SSL VPN (juniper SA) to connect back to
us, but these laptops never actually make it back to our physical network in
most cases. We have these people change their password in OWA or via RDP to
a server, but that doesn't reflect back to the domain joined laptop they are
on until one day they actually show up at one of our offices

I had thought being on VPN, that it would sync up with the domain enough
that their current domain password would be required the next time they
logged into their laptops, but this isn't the case.

Any ideas?

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RE: domain controller in the cloud???

[Stu Sjouwerman]

If you decide to go cloud, this is a domain controller in the cloud

http://www.okta.com/ 

Warm regards,

Stu


-Original Message-
From: techconnect [mailto:techconn...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: domain controller in the cloud???

We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us that 
we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he says 
everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders, 
authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're using, they want 
to move to gmail but there's no central management there I know of,and offsite 
backups only.) We have about 350-400 students and faculty and they want to be 
on the bandwagon to the cloud I think without understanding everything about 
it(I'm not entirely clear either) and was looking for thoughts and opinions or 
resources.

Thanks,
Jason
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RE: domain controller in the cloud???

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Yeah. Any real EMR will meet those criteria. We have audit trails the likes of 
which you wouldn't believe (or then again maybe you would). We can, have, and 
will terminate employment for anyone caught looking where they shouldn't.


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

Aren't EMR's fun.

Now add the auditing requirements that tell whom looked and or updated any 
patient record ( by field, with old values and new values) and keep that for 
the life of the patient, and there you have a real treat.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

We digitized the "pertinent" [1] information from the old charts, and are 
storing the paper for an as yet undetermined amount of time.

However, nothing new is being added to the old chart. So, it is entirely 
possible that we have patients approaching 2 years old that have no physical 
paper trail whatsoever as far as medical history within our organization goes, 
except for any paper statements that may have been mailed out.

[1] - last physical, medication lists, known drug allergies, etc - and anything 
else the physician deemed important enough to scan in.


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Charles Whitby [mailto:charles.whi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

Sleep robbing, becoming a third world country overnight kinda scary.

In your move to all electronic did you digitize all of your old dead-tree 
charts?
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
That was actually the first thing that came to mind, followed closely by some 
act of war/terrorism, or some kind of nuclear "accident".

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


From: Charles Whitby 
[mailto:charles.whi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

Coronal Mass Ejection for instance?
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
"It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the technology for its 
technical merits."

I know that feeling, that's for sure. I've just converted a 70 doc medical 
practice to an all electronic system, of which I was and still am a strong 
advocate. Paper charts here are, for all intents and purposes, a thing of the 
past. It's great, access to information (potentially lifesaving) is almost 
instantaneous from anywhere in the world as long as you've got a decent 
internet connection and can run a Citrix plugin. It's great - as long as it is 
accessible.

However, I have this sinking feeling that one day, something cataclysmic will 
happen and nothing (electronic) will work. Maybe in the next few years, maybe 
not. Either for a prolonged period of time, or even indefinitely. Perhaps it 
will be a localized event that will take our data center down, or maybe 
something on a larger scale - conspiracy theories abound about end of days type 
stuff. Just because it has never happened in our recorded history, does that 
make it really so far fetched? No, I'm not off the deep end (at least not yet 
anyway), but us making ourselves more and more dependent on technology (not to 
mention the government) can and does have its drawbacks...

Kinda funny how we can paint ourselves into a corner, isn't it?


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:55 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

Indeed...It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the 
technology for its technical merits.



ASB (My Bio via About.Me)
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...



On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Raper, Jo

RE: domain controller in the cloud???

[Ziots, Edward]

Aren't EMR's fun. 

 

Now add the auditing requirements that tell whom looked and or updated any 
patient record ( by field, with old values and new values) and keep that for 
the life of the patient, and there you have a real treat. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

 

We digitized the "pertinent" [1] information from the old charts, and are 
storing the paper for an as yet undetermined amount of time. 

 

However, nothing new is being added to the old chart. So, it is entirely 
possible that we have patients approaching 2 years old that have no physical 
paper trail whatsoever as far as medical history within our organization goes, 
except for any paper statements that may have been mailed out.

 

[1] - last physical, medication lists, known drug allergies, etc - and anything 
else the physician deemed important enough to scan in.

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com> 
www.eaglemds.com http://www.eaglemds.com/>  



From: Charles Whitby [mailto:charles.whi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

 

Sleep robbing, becoming a third world country overnight kinda scary.

In your move to all electronic did you digitize all of your old dead-tree 
charts?

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle  
wrote:

That was actually the first thing that came to mind, followed closely by some 
act of war/terrorism, or some kind of nuclear "accident".

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com 



From: Charles Whitby [mailto:charles.whi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

 

Coronal Mass Ejection for instance?

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle  
wrote:

"It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the technology for its 
technical merits."


I know that feeling, that's for sure. I've just converted a 70 doc medical 
practice to an all electronic system, of which I was and still am a strong 
advocate. Paper charts here are, for all intents and purposes, a thing of the 
past. It's great, access to information (potentially lifesaving) is almost 
instantaneous from anywhere in the world as long as you've got a decent 
internet connection and can run a Citrix plugin. It's great - as long as it is 
accessible.

 

However, I have this sinking feeling that one day, something cataclysmic will 
happen and nothing (electronic) will work. Maybe in the next few years, maybe 
not. Either for a prolonged period of time, or even indefinitely. Perhaps it 
will be a localized event that will take our data center down, or maybe 
something on a larger scale - conspiracy theories abound about end of days type 
stuff. Just because it has never happened in our recorded history, does that 
make it really so far fetched? No, I'm not off the deep end (at least not yet 
anyway), but us making ourselves more and more dependent on technology (not to 
mention the government) can and does have its drawbacks...

 

Kinda funny how we can paint ourselves into a corner, isn't it?

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com 



From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:55 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

 

Indeed...It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the 
technology for its technical merits.


 

ASB (My Bio via About.Me  ) 
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...

 

 

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle  
wrote:

Thought provoking, if nothing else.

Thanks for sharing, Angus.


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com

-Original Message-

From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

On 10 Jan 2011 at 11:43, techconnect  wrote:

> We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
> that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he says
> everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders,
> authenication A

HDD Dock (USB or eSATA)

[Jonathan Link]

Looking at getting one of these.  I've actually thought about one for a
while, but I'm kinda in analysis paralysis and can't decide on what to get.
I can spend a  on a sander and a dust extractor, but a small purchase
like this ties me up in knots.  What's the community using?

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Re: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

[Kelli Sterley]

Konica Minolta printers are a pain as well ... just FYI

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:17 PM, David Mazzaccaro <
david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com> wrote:

>  Thx
>
>
>
> *From:* Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:16 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers
>
>
>
> I had this problem and still have this problem for some printer
> manufactures.  For your Xerox printers, download the x64 drivers for XP as
> they will work on Windows 7.  Most of the print drivers for W7 apps you have
> to install and then dynamically pick your printers, especially from Xerox.
>
>
>
> *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:44 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers
>
>
>
> I can’t seem to get the 64bit driver installed on my 32bit server.
>
> Right click on the printer, properties, advanced, new driver, “have disk”,
> I browse to the folder where I downloaded the 64 bit driver from Xerox, but
> I get this message:
>
> “The specified location does not contain a compatible software driver for
> your device.  If the location contains a driver, make sure it is designed to
> work with Windows for 32bit systems”
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:38 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers
>
>
>
> Thank you very much, and thanks for that link.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:49 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers
>
>
>
> Nope, it will be an additional driver.
>
>
>
> *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:48 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> So it seems I shouldn’t have a problem loading the 64bit driver on a print
> server that is Win2003 32 bit SP2?
>
> Will it replace the 32 bit driver that is already on there (and being used
> by Win xp 32 bit machines)?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:40 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers
>
>
>
> You will need to get the 64 bit drivers and add them to the existing print
> server. No you don’t need additional printers on the server…..
>
>
>
>
> http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2010/01/19/print-driver-installation-on-32-bit-versus-64-bit-servers.aspx
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:14 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers
>
>
>
> So I’ve added my first Windows 7 64 bit machine to the domain, but I can’t
> add any of the network printers to it.
>
> Win7 says “no driver was found”.
>
> If I goto the printer server (win2003 server), right click on any of the
> network printers>sharing>additional drivers… I only have “x86, Win2000
> Winxp Win2003) checked.
>
> I can’t check x64 because it then asks for a driver location…
>
> Do I need to install the 64 bit drivers for every printer that this new
> workstation needs to connect to?
>
> I assume I’d have to create a separate printer on the server (with 64bit
> driver) just for Win7 workstations?
>
> Not sure where to start.
>
> TIA
>
>
> .
>
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RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

[David Mazzaccaro]

Thx

 

From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

I had this problem and still have this problem for some printer
manufactures.  For your Xerox printers, download the x64 drivers for XP
as they will work on Windows 7.  Most of the print drivers for W7 apps
you have to install and then dynamically pick your printers, especially
from Xerox.

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

I can't seem to get the 64bit driver installed on my 32bit server.

Right click on the printer, properties, advanced, new driver, "have
disk", I browse to the folder where I downloaded the 64 bit driver from
Xerox, but I get this message:

"The specified location does not contain a compatible software driver
for your device.  If the location contains a driver, make sure it is
designed to work with Windows for 32bit systems"

 

 

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

Thank you very much, and thanks for that link.

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

Nope, it will be an additional driver.

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

Thanks.

So it seems I shouldn't have a problem loading the 64bit driver on a
print server that is Win2003 32 bit SP2?

Will it replace the 32 bit driver that is already on there (and being
used by Win xp 32 bit machines)?

 

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

You will need to get the 64 bit drivers and add them to the existing
print server. No you don't need additional printers on the server.

 

http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2010/01/19/print-driver-insta
llation-on-32-bit-versus-64-bit-servers.aspx

 

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

So I've added my first Windows 7 64 bit machine to the domain, but I
can't add any of the network printers to it.

Win7 says "no driver was found".

If I goto the printer server (win2003 server), right click on any of the
network printers>sharing>additional drivers... I only have "x86, Win2000
Winxp Win2003) checked.

I can't check x64 because it then asks for a driver location...

Do I need to install the 64 bit drivers for every printer that this new
workstation needs to connect to?

I assume I'd have to create a separate printer on the server (with 64bit
driver) just for Win7 workstations?

Not sure where to start.

TIA


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RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

[Jimmy Tran]

I had this problem and still have this problem for some printer
manufactures.  For your Xerox printers, download the x64 drivers for XP
as they will work on Windows 7.  Most of the print drivers for W7 apps
you have to install and then dynamically pick your printers, especially
from Xerox.

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

I can't seem to get the 64bit driver installed on my 32bit server.

Right click on the printer, properties, advanced, new driver, "have
disk", I browse to the folder where I downloaded the 64 bit driver from
Xerox, but I get this message:

"The specified location does not contain a compatible software driver
for your device.  If the location contains a driver, make sure it is
designed to work with Windows for 32bit systems"

 

 

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

Thank you very much, and thanks for that link.

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

Nope, it will be an additional driver.

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

Thanks.

So it seems I shouldn't have a problem loading the 64bit driver on a
print server that is Win2003 32 bit SP2?

Will it replace the 32 bit driver that is already on there (and being
used by Win xp 32 bit machines)?

 

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

You will need to get the 64 bit drivers and add them to the existing
print server. No you don't need additional printers on the server.

 

http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2010/01/19/print-driver-insta
llation-on-32-bit-versus-64-bit-servers.aspx

 

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

So I've added my first Windows 7 64 bit machine to the domain, but I
can't add any of the network printers to it.

Win7 says "no driver was found".

If I goto the printer server (win2003 server), right click on any of the
network printers>sharing>additional drivers... I only have "x86, Win2000
Winxp Win2003) checked.

I can't check x64 because it then asks for a driver location...

Do I need to install the 64 bit drivers for every printer that this new
workstation needs to connect to?

I assume I'd have to create a separate printer on the server (with 64bit
driver) just for Win7 workstations?

Not sure where to start.

TIA


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RE: Security group question

[Crawford, Scott]

The biggest part of this question is enumerating all the possible directories 
that exist. Is this on a single server? Once you have a list of the possible 
candidates, the tools that others have mentioned will be able to check for your 
group.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security group question

I have security group X.  I need to find out what directories this group has 
access to, and what those rights are.

Is there an easy way to do this?  Documentation is lacking in this area.



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RE: domain controller in the cloud???

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

We digitized the "pertinent" [1] information from the old charts, and are 
storing the paper for an as yet undetermined amount of time.

However, nothing new is being added to the old chart. So, it is entirely 
possible that we have patients approaching 2 years old that have no physical 
paper trail whatsoever as far as medical history within our organization goes, 
except for any paper statements that may have been mailed out.

[1] - last physical, medication lists, known drug allergies, etc - and anything 
else the physician deemed important enough to scan in.


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
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From: Charles Whitby [mailto:charles.whi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

Sleep robbing, becoming a third world country overnight kinda scary.

In your move to all electronic did you digitize all of your old dead-tree 
charts?

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
That was actually the first thing that came to mind, followed closely by some 
act of war/terrorism, or some kind of nuclear "accident".

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


From: Charles Whitby 
[mailto:charles.whi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

Coronal Mass Ejection for instance?
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
"It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the technology for its 
technical merits."

I know that feeling, that's for sure. I've just converted a 70 doc medical 
practice to an all electronic system, of which I was and still am a strong 
advocate. Paper charts here are, for all intents and purposes, a thing of the 
past. It's great, access to information (potentially lifesaving) is almost 
instantaneous from anywhere in the world as long as you've got a decent 
internet connection and can run a Citrix plugin. It's great - as long as it is 
accessible.

However, I have this sinking feeling that one day, something cataclysmic will 
happen and nothing (electronic) will work. Maybe in the next few years, maybe 
not. Either for a prolonged period of time, or even indefinitely. Perhaps it 
will be a localized event that will take our data center down, or maybe 
something on a larger scale - conspiracy theories abound about end of days type 
stuff. Just because it has never happened in our recorded history, does that 
make it really so far fetched? No, I'm not off the deep end (at least not yet 
anyway), but us making ourselves more and more dependent on technology (not to 
mention the government) can and does have its drawbacks...

Kinda funny how we can paint ourselves into a corner, isn't it?


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:55 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

Indeed...It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the 
technology for its technical merits.



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Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...



On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Thought provoking, if nothing else.

Thanks for sharing, Angus.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming 
[mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???
On 10 Jan 2011 at 11:43, techconnect  wrote:

> We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
> that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he says
> everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders,
> authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're using, they
> want to move to gmail but there's no central management there I know of,and
> offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400 students and faculty and they
> want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I think without understanding
> everything about it(I'm not entirely clear either) a

RE: domain controller in the cloud???

[Ziots, Edward]

I just sent it to you. 

Grin :) 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

Damnit, I hate when I reply to the list instead of in the
individual...too  many lists and not all act the same..

-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

If you would like this slide deck ( so as not to kill the listserv)
please email me directly. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

Please share!

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

I have a slide deck written for ISACA NE that I can share if you want it
to review the issues with moving to the cloud, which should give you
talking points.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

There is a lot of things you need to look at if and when moving your
resources to the cloud. Just because a member of your board says moving
to the cloud is the way to go, doesn't make it so.

There are a lot of things to consider:

1) Availability ( of your resources) and of the cloud provider ( needs
to be put in SLA) ( what happens when a major Internet ISP or link goes
down which affects your availability? ( Is it the fault of the cloud
provider? ( Not really, but the customer might not be able to get to
their systems, which means availability is not assured)
2) Data Management ( of your servers) and encryption ( needs to be put
in SLA)
3) Right to Audit ( of their processes) ( don't take a SAS 70 or SSAE 16
part 1/2, for face value)
4) Compliance ( Legal requirements) ( Most auditors don't know how to
audit systems in the cloud, so how are you going to stay compliant? (
try PCI DSS for example)
5) How do you get your data and systems out of the cloud if you have to
terminate your contract with the cloud provider, or want to move to
another cloud provider?
6) Vetting process of the cloud provider when hiring staff that has
access to your systems and data? And probably a lot of others also? (
You don't know this, and they aren't going to tell you either in most
cases)

Just food for thought, but again its all about risk, and how much you
are willing to take, that and giving up control.

Z


Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: techconnect [mailto:techconn...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: domain controller in the cloud???

We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he
says everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user
folders, authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're
using, they want to move to gmail but there's no central management
there I know of,and offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400
students and faculty and they want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I
think without understanding everything about it(I'm not entirely clear
either) and was looking for thoughts and opinions or resources.

Thanks,
Jason
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Re: Security group question

[Rankin, James R]

Try fileacl

--Original Message--
From: Joseph Heaton
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security group question
Sent: 11 Jan 2011 16:44

I have security group X.  I need to find out what directories this group has 
access to, and what those rights are.

Is there an easy way to do this?  Documentation is lacking in this area.



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RE: domain controller in the cloud???

[David Lum]

Damnit, I hate when I reply to the list instead of in the individual...too  
many lists and not all act the same..

-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

If you would like this slide deck ( so as not to kill the listserv)
please email me directly. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

Please share!

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

I have a slide deck written for ISACA NE that I can share if you want it
to review the issues with moving to the cloud, which should give you
talking points.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

There is a lot of things you need to look at if and when moving your
resources to the cloud. Just because a member of your board says moving
to the cloud is the way to go, doesn't make it so.

There are a lot of things to consider:

1) Availability ( of your resources) and of the cloud provider ( needs
to be put in SLA) ( what happens when a major Internet ISP or link goes
down which affects your availability? ( Is it the fault of the cloud
provider? ( Not really, but the customer might not be able to get to
their systems, which means availability is not assured)
2) Data Management ( of your servers) and encryption ( needs to be put
in SLA)
3) Right to Audit ( of their processes) ( don't take a SAS 70 or SSAE 16
part 1/2, for face value)
4) Compliance ( Legal requirements) ( Most auditors don't know how to
audit systems in the cloud, so how are you going to stay compliant? (
try PCI DSS for example)
5) How do you get your data and systems out of the cloud if you have to
terminate your contract with the cloud provider, or want to move to
another cloud provider?
6) Vetting process of the cloud provider when hiring staff that has
access to your systems and data? And probably a lot of others also? (
You don't know this, and they aren't going to tell you either in most
cases)

Just food for thought, but again its all about risk, and how much you
are willing to take, that and giving up control.

Z


Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: techconnect [mailto:techconn...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: domain controller in the cloud???

We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he
says everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user
folders, authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're
using, they want to move to gmail but there's no central management
there I know of,and offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400
students and faculty and they want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I
think without understanding everything about it(I'm not entirely clear
either) and was looking for thoughts and opinions or resources.

Thanks,
Jason
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RE: domain controller in the cloud???

[David Lum]

Me.

-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

If you would like this slide deck ( so as not to kill the listserv)
please email me directly. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

Please share!

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

I have a slide deck written for ISACA NE that I can share if you want it
to review the issues with moving to the cloud, which should give you
talking points.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

There is a lot of things you need to look at if and when moving your
resources to the cloud. Just because a member of your board says moving
to the cloud is the way to go, doesn't make it so.

There are a lot of things to consider:

1) Availability ( of your resources) and of the cloud provider ( needs
to be put in SLA) ( what happens when a major Internet ISP or link goes
down which affects your availability? ( Is it the fault of the cloud
provider? ( Not really, but the customer might not be able to get to
their systems, which means availability is not assured)
2) Data Management ( of your servers) and encryption ( needs to be put
in SLA)
3) Right to Audit ( of their processes) ( don't take a SAS 70 or SSAE 16
part 1/2, for face value)
4) Compliance ( Legal requirements) ( Most auditors don't know how to
audit systems in the cloud, so how are you going to stay compliant? (
try PCI DSS for example)
5) How do you get your data and systems out of the cloud if you have to
terminate your contract with the cloud provider, or want to move to
another cloud provider?
6) Vetting process of the cloud provider when hiring staff that has
access to your systems and data? And probably a lot of others also? (
You don't know this, and they aren't going to tell you either in most
cases)

Just food for thought, but again its all about risk, and how much you
are willing to take, that and giving up control.

Z


Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: techconnect [mailto:techconn...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: domain controller in the cloud???

We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he
says everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user
folders, authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're
using, they want to move to gmail but there's no central management
there I know of,and offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400
students and faculty and they want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I
think without understanding everything about it(I'm not entirely clear
either) and was looking for thoughts and opinions or resources.

Thanks,
Jason
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RE: domain controller in the cloud???

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Details! ;-)


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Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
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www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

I'm sorry to say, if war or terrorism happen all bets are really off...
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
That was actually the first thing that came to mind, followed closely by some 
act of war/terrorism, or some kind of nuclear "accident".

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


From: Charles Whitby 
[mailto:charles.whi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:22 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

Coronal Mass Ejection for instance?
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
"It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the technology for its 
technical merits."

I know that feeling, that's for sure. I've just converted a 70 doc medical 
practice to an all electronic system, of which I was and still am a strong 
advocate. Paper charts here are, for all intents and purposes, a thing of the 
past. It's great, access to information (potentially lifesaving) is almost 
instantaneous from anywhere in the world as long as you've got a decent 
internet connection and can run a Citrix plugin. It's great - as long as it is 
accessible.

However, I have this sinking feeling that one day, something cataclysmic will 
happen and nothing (electronic) will work. Maybe in the next few years, maybe 
not. Either for a prolonged period of time, or even indefinitely. Perhaps it 
will be a localized event that will take our data center down, or maybe 
something on a larger scale - conspiracy theories abound about end of days type 
stuff. Just because it has never happened in our recorded history, does that 
make it really so far fetched? No, I'm not off the deep end (at least not yet 
anyway), but us making ourselves more and more dependent on technology (not to 
mention the government) can and does have its drawbacks...

Kinda funny how we can paint ourselves into a corner, isn't it?


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:55 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

Indeed...It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the 
technology for its technical merits.



ASB (My Bio via About.Me)
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...



On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Thought provoking, if nothing else.

Thanks for sharing, Angus.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming 
[mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???
On 10 Jan 2011 at 11:43, techconnect  wrote:

> We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
> that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he says
> everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders,
> authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're using, they
> want to move to gmail but there's no central management there I know of,and
> offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400 students and faculty and they
> want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I think without understanding
> everything about it(I'm not entirely clear either) and was looking for
> thoughts and opinions or resources.

Interesting take on this idea here:

= Included Stuff Follows =
Why I´m Having Second Thoughts About The Wisdom Of The Cloud

   "...It used to be that if the US government wanted access to documents or
   letters in my possession they´d have to subpoena me directly. As a foreign
   citizen there are all sorts of ways I could fight the request - and it was
   at  least my choice whether to do so. As someone living in the US I also
   had the whole weight of the 4th Amendment on my side. Now, with everything
   in the cloud, the decision whether to h

RE: Security group question

[Michael B. Smith]

You can do this with cacls / icacls, but google something called fileacl. It's 
easier to use.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


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From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Security group question

I have security group X.  I need to find out what directories this group has 
access to, and what those rights are.

Is there an easy way to do this?  Documentation is lacking in this area.



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[Joseph Heaton]

I have security group X.  I need to find out what directories this group has 
access to, and what those rights are.

Is there an easy way to do this?  Documentation is lacking in this area.



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Re: domain controller in the cloud???

[Jonathan Link]

I'm sorry to say, if war or terrorism happen all bets are really off...

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

>  That was actually the first thing that came to mind, followed closely by
> some act of war/terrorism, or some kind of nuclear “accident”.
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>  --
>
> *From:* Charles Whitby [mailto:charles.whi...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:22 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: domain controller in the cloud???
>
>
>
> Coronal Mass Ejection for instance?
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
> jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:
>
> *“**It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the technology
> for its technical merits.”*
>
>
> I know that feeling, that’s for sure. I’ve just converted a 70 doc medical
> practice to an all electronic system, of which I was and still am a strong
> advocate. Paper charts here are, for all intents and purposes, a thing of
> the past. It’s great, access to information (potentially lifesaving) is
> almost instantaneous from anywhere in the world as long as you’ve got a
> decent internet connection and can run a Citrix plugin. It’s great – as long
> as it is *accessible*.
>
>
>
> However, I have this sinking feeling that one day, something cataclysmic
> will happen and nothing (electronic) will work. Maybe in the next few years,
> maybe not. Either for a prolonged period of time, or even indefinitely.
> Perhaps it will be a localized event that will take our data center down, or
> maybe something on a larger scale – conspiracy theories abound about end of
> days type stuff. Just because it has never happened in our recorded history,
> does that make it really so far fetched? No, I’m not off the deep end (at
> least not yet anyway), but us making ourselves more and more dependent on
> technology (not to mention the government) can and does have its drawbacks…
>
>
>
> Kinda funny how we can paint ourselves into a corner, isn’t it?
>
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>  --
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:55 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: domain controller in the cloud???
>
>
>
> Indeed...It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the
> technology for its technical merits.
>
>
>
> *ASB *(My Bio via About.Me )
> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
> jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:
>
> Thought provoking, if nothing else.
>
> Thanks for sharing, Angus.
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@eaglemds.com
> www.eaglemds.com
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:44 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???
>
> On 10 Jan 2011 at 11:43, techconnect  wrote:
>
> > We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
> > that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he
> says
> > everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders,
> > authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're using, they
> > want to move to gmail but there's no central management there I know
> of,and
> > offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400 students and faculty and
> they
> > want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I think without understanding
> > everything about it(I'm not entirely clear either) and was looking for
> > thoughts and opinions or resources.
>
> Interesting take on this idea here:
>
> = Included Stuff Follows =
> Why I´m Having Second Thoughts About The Wisdom Of The Cloud
>
>"...It used to be that if the US government wanted access to documents
> or
>letters in my possession they´d have to subpoena me directly. As a
> foreign
>citizen there are all sorts of ways I could fight the request - and it
> was
>at  least my choice whether to do so. As someone living in the US I also
>had the whole weight of the 4th Amendment on my side. Now, with
> everything
>in the cloud, the decision whether to hand over my personal information
> is
>almost entirely out of my hands. And unless, as happened with Twitter,
> the
>company storing my data decides to fight for openness on my behalf,
>there´s every possibility that I won´t even hear about the request until
>it´s too late. That´s just not how things should work in a free society.
>
>"Of cou

Re: domain controller in the cloud???

[Charles Whitby]

Sleep robbing, becoming a third world country overnight kinda scary.

In your move to all electronic did you digitize all of your old dead-tree
charts?


On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

>  That was actually the first thing that came to mind, followed closely by
> some act of war/terrorism, or some kind of nuclear “accident”.
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>   --
>
> *From:* Charles Whitby [mailto:charles.whi...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:22 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: domain controller in the cloud???
>
>
>
> Coronal Mass Ejection for instance?
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
> jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:
>
> *“**It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the technology
> for its technical merits.”*
>
>
> I know that feeling, that’s for sure. I’ve just converted a 70 doc medical
> practice to an all electronic system, of which I was and still am a strong
> advocate. Paper charts here are, for all intents and purposes, a thing of
> the past. It’s great, access to information (potentially lifesaving) is
> almost instantaneous from anywhere in the world as long as you’ve got a
> decent internet connection and can run a Citrix plugin. It’s great – as long
> as it is *accessible*.
>
>
>
> However, I have this sinking feeling that one day, something cataclysmic
> will happen and nothing (electronic) will work. Maybe in the next few years,
> maybe not. Either for a prolonged period of time, or even indefinitely.
> Perhaps it will be a localized event that will take our data center down, or
> maybe something on a larger scale – conspiracy theories abound about end of
> days type stuff. Just because it has never happened in our recorded history,
> does that make it really so far fetched? No, I’m not off the deep end (at
> least not yet anyway), but us making ourselves more and more dependent on
> technology (not to mention the government) can and does have its drawbacks…
>
>
>
> Kinda funny how we can paint ourselves into a corner, isn’t it?
>
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>   --
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:55 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: domain controller in the cloud???
>
>
>
> Indeed...It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the
> technology for its technical merits.
>
>
>
> *ASB *(My Bio via About.Me )
> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
> jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:
>
> Thought provoking, if nothing else.
>
> Thanks for sharing, Angus.
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@eaglemds.com
> www.eaglemds.com
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:44 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???
>
> On 10 Jan 2011 at 11:43, techconnect  wrote:
>
> > We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
> > that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he
> says
> > everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders,
> > authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're using, they
> > want to move to gmail but there's no central management there I know
> of,and
> > offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400 students and faculty and
> they
> > want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I think without understanding
> > everything about it(I'm not entirely clear either) and was looking for
> > thoughts and opinions or resources.
>
> Interesting take on this idea here:
>
> = Included Stuff Follows =
> Why I´m Having Second Thoughts About The Wisdom Of The Cloud
>
>"...It used to be that if the US government wanted access to documents
> or
>letters in my possession they´d have to subpoena me directly. As a
> foreign
>citizen there are all sorts of ways I could fight the request - and it
> was
>at  least my choice whether to do so. As someone living in the US I also
>had the whole weight of the 4th Amendment on my side. Now, with
> everything
>in the cloud, the decision whether to hand over my personal information
> is
>almost entirely out of my hands. And unless, as happened with Twitter,
> the
>company storing my data decides to fight for openness on my behalf,
>there´s every possibility that I won´t even hear about the request until
>it´s t

Re: domain controller in the cloud???

[Jonathan Link]

Scaling back a bitconsider the times when we've had cascading failures
of the powergrid from realtively normal events...  And then it has taken a
day or more to get power back up.  Invariably there are a few unlucky souls
who don't have power for quite a bit longer (usually where the damage
started, or damage was caused by the failure of the grid).
That's the one I'm most afraid of, and is still fresh in my mind.  My wife
was in NYC during the blackout in 2003, all because some corporation wanted
to save a buck for a few years and didn't keep parts of their grid clear of
trees...

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Charles Whitby
wrote:

> Coronal Mass Ejection for instance?
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
> jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:
>
>>  *“**It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the technology
>> for its technical merits.”*
>>
>>
>> I know that feeling, that’s for sure. I’ve just converted a 70 doc medical
>> practice to an all electronic system, of which I was and still am a strong
>> advocate. Paper charts here are, for all intents and purposes, a thing of
>> the past. It’s great, access to information (potentially lifesaving) is
>> almost instantaneous from anywhere in the world as long as you’ve got a
>> decent internet connection and can run a Citrix plugin. It’s great – as long
>> as it is *accessible*.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, I have this sinking feeling that one day, something cataclysmic
>> will happen and nothing (electronic) will work. Maybe in the next few years,
>> maybe not. Either for a prolonged period of time, or even indefinitely.
>> Perhaps it will be a localized event that will take our data center down, or
>> maybe something on a larger scale – conspiracy theories abound about end of
>> days type stuff. Just because it has never happened in our recorded history,
>> does that make it really so far fetched? No, I’m not off the deep end (at
>> least not yet anyway), but us making ourselves more and more dependent on
>> technology (not to mention the government) can and does have its drawbacks…
>>
>>
>>
>> Kinda funny how we can paint ourselves into a corner, isn’t it?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>> Technology Coordinator
>> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
>> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
>> *www.eaglemds.com
>>  --
>>
>> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:55 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: domain controller in the cloud???
>>
>>
>>
>> Indeed...It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the
>> technology for its technical merits.
>>
>>
>>
>> *ASB *(My Bio via About.Me )
>> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
>> jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thought provoking, if nothing else.
>>
>> Thanks for sharing, Angus.
>>
>>
>> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>> Technology Coordinator
>> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
>> jra...@eaglemds.com
>> www.eaglemds.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>>
>> From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:44 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???
>>
>> On 10 Jan 2011 at 11:43, techconnect  wrote:
>>
>> > We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
>> > that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he
>> says
>> > everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders,
>> > authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're using, they
>> > want to move to gmail but there's no central management there I know
>> of,and
>> > offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400 students and faculty and
>> they
>> > want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I think without understanding
>> > everything about it(I'm not entirely clear either) and was looking for
>> > thoughts and opinions or resources.
>>
>> Interesting take on this idea here:
>>
>> = Included Stuff Follows =
>> Why I´m Having Second Thoughts About The Wisdom Of The Cloud
>>
>>"...It used to be that if the US government wanted access to documents
>> or
>>letters in my possession they´d have to subpoena me directly. As a
>> foreign
>>citizen there are all sorts of ways I could fight the request - and it
>> was
>>at  least my choice whether to do so. As someone living in the US I
>> also
>>had the whole weight of the 4th Amendment on my side. Now, with
>> everything
>>in the cloud, the decision whether to hand over my personal information
>> is
>>almost entirely out of my hands. And unless, as happened with Twitter,
>> the
>>company storing my data decides to fight for openness on my behalf,
>>there´s every possibility that I won´t even hear about the request
>> until

RE: domain controller in the cloud???

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

That was actually the first thing that came to mind, followed closely by some 
act of war/terrorism, or some kind of nuclear "accident".

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Charles Whitby [mailto:charles.whi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

Coronal Mass Ejection for instance?
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
"It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the technology for its 
technical merits."

I know that feeling, that's for sure. I've just converted a 70 doc medical 
practice to an all electronic system, of which I was and still am a strong 
advocate. Paper charts here are, for all intents and purposes, a thing of the 
past. It's great, access to information (potentially lifesaving) is almost 
instantaneous from anywhere in the world as long as you've got a decent 
internet connection and can run a Citrix plugin. It's great - as long as it is 
accessible.

However, I have this sinking feeling that one day, something cataclysmic will 
happen and nothing (electronic) will work. Maybe in the next few years, maybe 
not. Either for a prolonged period of time, or even indefinitely. Perhaps it 
will be a localized event that will take our data center down, or maybe 
something on a larger scale - conspiracy theories abound about end of days type 
stuff. Just because it has never happened in our recorded history, does that 
make it really so far fetched? No, I'm not off the deep end (at least not yet 
anyway), but us making ourselves more and more dependent on technology (not to 
mention the government) can and does have its drawbacks...

Kinda funny how we can paint ourselves into a corner, isn't it?


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:55 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

Indeed...It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the 
technology for its technical merits.



ASB (My Bio via About.Me)
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...



On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Thought provoking, if nothing else.

Thanks for sharing, Angus.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming 
[mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???
On 10 Jan 2011 at 11:43, techconnect  wrote:

> We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
> that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he says
> everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders,
> authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're using, they
> want to move to gmail but there's no central management there I know of,and
> offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400 students and faculty and they
> want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I think without understanding
> everything about it(I'm not entirely clear either) and was looking for
> thoughts and opinions or resources.

Interesting take on this idea here:

= Included Stuff Follows =
Why I´m Having Second Thoughts About The Wisdom Of The Cloud

   "...It used to be that if the US government wanted access to documents or
   letters in my possession they´d have to subpoena me directly. As a foreign
   citizen there are all sorts of ways I could fight the request - and it was
   at  least my choice whether to do so. As someone living in the US I also
   had the whole weight of the 4th Amendment on my side. Now, with everything
   in the cloud, the decision whether to hand over my personal information is
   almost entirely out of my hands. And unless, as happened with Twitter, the
   company storing my data decides to fight for openness on my behalf,
   there´s every possibility that I won´t even hear about the request until
   it´s too late. That´s just not how things should work in a free society.

   "Of course, it remains statistically unlikely that I´m going to be the
   subject of a subpoena any time soon. I´m hardly an enemy of the state. But
   then again, until recently, neither were many of the supporters of
   Wikileaks. Who´s to say that an innocuou

RE: domain controller in the cloud???

[John Cook]

Does that mean the Decpticons have arrived?

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain controller in the cloud???

EMP.
Of course at that point we can all just go home.

From: Charles Whitby [mailto:charles.whi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

Coronal Mass Ejection for instance?
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
"It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the technology for its 
technical merits."

I know that feeling, that's for sure. I've just converted a 70 doc medical 
practice to an all electronic system, of which I was and still am a strong 
advocate. Paper charts here are, for all intents and purposes, a thing of the 
past. It's great, access to information (potentially lifesaving) is almost 
instantaneous from anywhere in the world as long as you've got a decent 
internet connection and can run a Citrix plugin. It's great - as long as it is 
accessible.

However, I have this sinking feeling that one day, something cataclysmic will 
happen and nothing (electronic) will work. Maybe in the next few years, maybe 
not. Either for a prolonged period of time, or even indefinitely. Perhaps it 
will be a localized event that will take our data center down, or maybe 
something on a larger scale - conspiracy theories abound about end of days type 
stuff. Just because it has never happened in our recorded history, does that 
make it really so far fetched? No, I'm not off the deep end (at least not yet 
anyway), but us making ourselves more and more dependent on technology (not to 
mention the government) can and does have its drawbacks...

Kinda funny how we can paint ourselves into a corner, isn't it?


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:55 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

Indeed...It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the 
technology for its technical merits.



ASB (My Bio via About.Me)
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...



On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Thought provoking, if nothing else.

Thanks for sharing, Angus.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming 
[mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???
On 10 Jan 2011 at 11:43, techconnect  wrote:

> We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
> that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he says
> everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders,
> authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're using, they
> want to move to gmail but there's no central management there I know of,and
> offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400 students and faculty and they
> want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I think without understanding
> everything about it(I'm not entirely clear either) and was looking for
> thoughts and opinions or resources.

Interesting take on this idea here:

= Included Stuff Follows =
Why I´m Having Second Thoughts About The Wisdom Of The Cloud

   "...It used to be that if the US government wanted access to documents or
   letters in my possession they´d have to subpoena me directly. As a foreign
   citizen there are all sorts of ways I could fight the request - and it was
   at  least my choice whether to do so. As someone living in the US I also
   had the whole weight of the 4th Amendment on my side. Now, with everything
   in the cloud, the decision whether to hand over my personal information is
   almost entirely out of my hands. And unless, as happened with Twitter, the
   company storing my data decides to fight for openness on my behalf,
   there´s every possibility that I won´t even hear about the request until
   it´s too late. That´s just not how things should work in a free society.

   "Of course, it remains statistically unlikely that I´m going to be the
   subject of a subpoena any time soon. I´m 

RE: domain controller in the cloud???

[Martin Blackstone]

EMP.

Of course at that point we can all just go home.

 

From: Charles Whitby [mailto:charles.whi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

 

Coronal Mass Ejection for instance?

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
 wrote:

“It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the technology for
its technical merits.”


I know that feeling, that’s for sure. I’ve just converted a 70 doc medical
practice to an all electronic system, of which I was and still am a strong
advocate. Paper charts here are, for all intents and purposes, a thing of
the past. It’s great, access to information (potentially lifesaving) is
almost instantaneous from anywhere in the world as long as you’ve got a
decent internet connection and can run a Citrix plugin. It’s great – as long
as it is accessible.

 

However, I have this sinking feeling that one day, something cataclysmic
will happen and nothing (electronic) will work. Maybe in the next few years,
maybe not. Either for a prolonged period of time, or even indefinitely.
Perhaps it will be a localized event that will take our data center down, or
maybe something on a larger scale – conspiracy theories abound about end of
days type stuff. Just because it has never happened in our recorded history,
does that make it really so far fetched? No, I’m not off the deep end (at
least not yet anyway), but us making ourselves more and more dependent on
technology (not to mention the government) can and does have its drawbacks…

 

Kinda funny how we can paint ourselves into a corner, isn’t it?

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com 

  _  

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:55 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

 

Indeed...It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the
technology for its technical merits.


 

ASB (My Bio via About.Me  ) 
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...

 

 

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
 wrote:

Thought provoking, if nothing else.

Thanks for sharing, Angus.


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com

-Original Message-

From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

On 10 Jan 2011 at 11:43, techconnect  wrote:

> We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
> that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he
says
> everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders,
> authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're using, they
> want to move to gmail but there's no central management there I know
of,and
> offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400 students and faculty and they
> want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I think without understanding
> everything about it(I'm not entirely clear either) and was looking for
> thoughts and opinions or resources.

Interesting take on this idea here:

= Included Stuff Follows =
Why I´m Having Second Thoughts About The Wisdom Of The Cloud

   "...It used to be that if the US government wanted access to documents or
   letters in my possession they´d have to subpoena me directly. As a
foreign
   citizen there are all sorts of ways I could fight the request - and it
was
   at  least my choice whether to do so. As someone living in the US I also
   had the whole weight of the 4th Amendment on my side. Now, with
everything
   in the cloud, the decision whether to hand over my personal information
is
   almost entirely out of my hands. And unless, as happened with Twitter,
the
   company storing my data decides to fight for openness on my behalf,
   there´s every possibility that I won´t even hear about the request until
   it´s too late. That´s just not how things should work in a free society.

   "Of course, it remains statistically unlikely that I´m going to be the
   subject of a subpoena any time soon. I´m hardly an enemy of the state.
But
   then again, until recently, neither were many of the supporters of
   Wikileaks. Who´s to say that an innocuous organisation I give support to
   today won´t suddenly become highly controversial tomorrow?

   "For that reason, I´m giving serious thought to the idea of taking my
   communications back out of the cloud: switching back to a traditional
   email client and storing my documents on my encrypted hard-drive."

= Included Stuff Ends =
Seen here:
http://techcrunch.com/2011/01/10/why-im-having-second-thoughts-about-the-wis
dom-of-the-cloud/

-

Re: domain controller in the cloud???

[Charles Whitby]

Coronal Mass Ejection for instance?

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

>  *“**It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the technology
> for its technical merits.”*
>
>
> I know that feeling, that’s for sure. I’ve just converted a 70 doc medical
> practice to an all electronic system, of which I was and still am a strong
> advocate. Paper charts here are, for all intents and purposes, a thing of
> the past. It’s great, access to information (potentially lifesaving) is
> almost instantaneous from anywhere in the world as long as you’ve got a
> decent internet connection and can run a Citrix plugin. It’s great – as long
> as it is *accessible*.
>
>
>
> However, I have this sinking feeling that one day, something cataclysmic
> will happen and nothing (electronic) will work. Maybe in the next few years,
> maybe not. Either for a prolonged period of time, or even indefinitely.
> Perhaps it will be a localized event that will take our data center down, or
> maybe something on a larger scale – conspiracy theories abound about end of
> days type stuff. Just because it has never happened in our recorded history,
> does that make it really so far fetched? No, I’m not off the deep end (at
> least not yet anyway), but us making ourselves more and more dependent on
> technology (not to mention the government) can and does have its drawbacks…
>
>
>
> Kinda funny how we can paint ourselves into a corner, isn’t it?
>
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>   --
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:55 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: domain controller in the cloud???
>
>
>
> Indeed...It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the
> technology for its technical merits.
>
>
>
> *ASB *(My Bio via About.Me )
> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
> jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:
>
> Thought provoking, if nothing else.
>
> Thanks for sharing, Angus.
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@eaglemds.com
> www.eaglemds.com
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:44 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???
>
> On 10 Jan 2011 at 11:43, techconnect  wrote:
>
> > We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
> > that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he
> says
> > everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders,
> > authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're using, they
> > want to move to gmail but there's no central management there I know
> of,and
> > offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400 students and faculty and
> they
> > want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I think without understanding
> > everything about it(I'm not entirely clear either) and was looking for
> > thoughts and opinions or resources.
>
> Interesting take on this idea here:
>
> = Included Stuff Follows =
> Why I´m Having Second Thoughts About The Wisdom Of The Cloud
>
>"...It used to be that if the US government wanted access to documents
> or
>letters in my possession they´d have to subpoena me directly. As a
> foreign
>citizen there are all sorts of ways I could fight the request - and it
> was
>at  least my choice whether to do so. As someone living in the US I also
>had the whole weight of the 4th Amendment on my side. Now, with
> everything
>in the cloud, the decision whether to hand over my personal information
> is
>almost entirely out of my hands. And unless, as happened with Twitter,
> the
>company storing my data decides to fight for openness on my behalf,
>there´s every possibility that I won´t even hear about the request until
>it´s too late. That´s just not how things should work in a free society.
>
>"Of course, it remains statistically unlikely that I´m going to be the
>subject of a subpoena any time soon. I´m hardly an enemy of the state.
> But
>then again, until recently, neither were many of the supporters of
>Wikileaks. Who´s to say that an innocuous organisation I give support to
>today won´t suddenly become highly controversial tomorrow?
>
>"For that reason, I´m giving serious thought to the idea of taking my
>communications back out of the cloud: switching back to a traditional
>email client and storing my documents on my encrypted hard-drive."
>
> = Included Stuff Ends =
> Seen here:
>
> http://techcrunch.com/2011/01/1

RE: domain controller in the cloud???

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

"It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the technology for its 
technical merits."

I know that feeling, that's for sure. I've just converted a 70 doc medical 
practice to an all electronic system, of which I was and still am a strong 
advocate. Paper charts here are, for all intents and purposes, a thing of the 
past. It's great, access to information (potentially lifesaving) is almost 
instantaneous from anywhere in the world as long as you've got a decent 
internet connection and can run a Citrix plugin. It's great - as long as it is 
accessible.

However, I have this sinking feeling that one day, something cataclysmic will 
happen and nothing (electronic) will work. Maybe in the next few years, maybe 
not. Either for a prolonged period of time, or even indefinitely. Perhaps it 
will be a localized event that will take our data center down, or maybe 
something on a larger scale - conspiracy theories abound about end of days type 
stuff. Just because it has never happened in our recorded history, does that 
make it really so far fetched? No, I'm not off the deep end (at least not yet 
anyway), but us making ourselves more and more dependent on technology (not to 
mention the government) can and does have its drawbacks...

Kinda funny how we can paint ourselves into a corner, isn't it?


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

Indeed...It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the 
technology for its technical merits.



ASB (My Bio via About.Me)
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...




On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Thought provoking, if nothing else.

Thanks for sharing, Angus.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com

-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming 
[mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???
On 10 Jan 2011 at 11:43, techconnect  wrote:

> We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
> that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he says
> everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders,
> authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're using, they
> want to move to gmail but there's no central management there I know of,and
> offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400 students and faculty and they
> want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I think without understanding
> everything about it(I'm not entirely clear either) and was looking for
> thoughts and opinions or resources.

Interesting take on this idea here:

= Included Stuff Follows =
Why I´m Having Second Thoughts About The Wisdom Of The Cloud

   "...It used to be that if the US government wanted access to documents or
   letters in my possession they´d have to subpoena me directly. As a foreign
   citizen there are all sorts of ways I could fight the request - and it was
   at  least my choice whether to do so. As someone living in the US I also
   had the whole weight of the 4th Amendment on my side. Now, with everything
   in the cloud, the decision whether to hand over my personal information is
   almost entirely out of my hands. And unless, as happened with Twitter, the
   company storing my data decides to fight for openness on my behalf,
   there´s every possibility that I won´t even hear about the request until
   it´s too late. That´s just not how things should work in a free society.

   "Of course, it remains statistically unlikely that I´m going to be the
   subject of a subpoena any time soon. I´m hardly an enemy of the state. But
   then again, until recently, neither were many of the supporters of
   Wikileaks. Who´s to say that an innocuous organisation I give support to
   today won´t suddenly become highly controversial tomorrow?

   "For that reason, I´m giving serious thought to the idea of taking my
   communications back out of the cloud: switching back to a traditional
   email client and storing my documents on my encrypted hard-drive."

= Included Stuff Ends =
Seen here:
http://techcrunch.com/2011/01/10/why-im-having-second-thoughts-about-the-wisdom-of-the-cloud/

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource

RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

[Spencer Read]

It was mentioned not long back - found this which is basically pushing
the drivers to the server from a 64 bit client

 

http://www.mail-archive.com/ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com/msg875
28.html

 

...Spence

 

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: 11 January 2011 15:44
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

I can't seem to get the 64bit driver installed on my 32bit server.

Right click on the printer, properties, advanced, new driver, "have
disk", I browse to the folder where I downloaded the 64 bit driver from
Xerox, but I get this message:

"The specified location does not contain a compatible software driver
for your device.  If the location contains a driver, make sure it is
designed to work with Windows for 32bit systems"

 

 

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

Thank you very much, and thanks for that link.

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

Nope, it will be an additional driver.

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

Thanks.

So it seems I shouldn't have a problem loading the 64bit driver on a
print server that is Win2003 32 bit SP2?

Will it replace the 32 bit driver that is already on there (and being
used by Win xp 32 bit machines)?

 

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

You will need to get the 64 bit drivers and add them to the existing
print server. No you don't need additional printers on the server.

 

http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2010/01/19/print-driver-insta
llation-on-32-bit-versus-64-bit-servers.aspx

 

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

So I've added my first Windows 7 64 bit machine to the domain, but I
can't add any of the network printers to it.

Win7 says "no driver was found".

If I goto the printer server (win2003 server), right click on any of the
network printers>sharing>additional drivers... I only have "x86, Win2000
Winxp Win2003) checked.

I can't check x64 because it then asks for a driver location...

Do I need to install the 64 bit drivers for every printer that this new
workstation needs to connect to?

I assume I'd have to create a separate printer on the server (with 64bit
driver) just for Win7 workstations?

Not sure where to start.

TIA


.

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Re: domain controller in the cloud???

[Andrew S. Baker]

Indeed...It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the
technology for its technical merits.


*ASB *(My Bio via About.Me )
 *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*

*
*



On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

> Thought provoking, if nothing else.
>
> Thanks for sharing, Angus.
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@eaglemds.com
> www.eaglemds.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:44 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???
>
> On 10 Jan 2011 at 11:43, techconnect  wrote:
>
> > We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
> > that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he
> says
> > everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders,
> > authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're using, they
> > want to move to gmail but there's no central management there I know
> of,and
> > offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400 students and faculty and
> they
> > want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I think without understanding
> > everything about it(I'm not entirely clear either) and was looking for
> > thoughts and opinions or resources.
>
> Interesting take on this idea here:
>
> = Included Stuff Follows =
> Why I´m Having Second Thoughts About The Wisdom Of The Cloud
>
>"...It used to be that if the US government wanted access to documents
> or
>letters in my possession they´d have to subpoena me directly. As a
> foreign
>citizen there are all sorts of ways I could fight the request - and it
> was
>at  least my choice whether to do so. As someone living in the US I also
>had the whole weight of the 4th Amendment on my side. Now, with
> everything
>in the cloud, the decision whether to hand over my personal information
> is
>almost entirely out of my hands. And unless, as happened with Twitter,
> the
>company storing my data decides to fight for openness on my behalf,
>there´s every possibility that I won´t even hear about the request until
>it´s too late. That´s just not how things should work in a free society.
>
>"Of course, it remains statistically unlikely that I´m going to be the
>subject of a subpoena any time soon. I´m hardly an enemy of the state.
> But
>then again, until recently, neither were many of the supporters of
>Wikileaks. Who´s to say that an innocuous organisation I give support to
>today won´t suddenly become highly controversial tomorrow?
>
>"For that reason, I´m giving serious thought to the idea of taking my
>communications back out of the cloud: switching back to a traditional
>email client and storing my documents on my encrypted hard-drive."
>
> = Included Stuff Ends =
> Seen here:
>
> http://techcrunch.com/2011/01/10/why-im-having-second-thoughts-about-the-wisdom-of-the-cloud/
>
> --
> Angus Scott-Fleming
> GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
> 1-520-290-5038
> Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

[Andrew S. Baker]

Is the driver expanded to its full folder structure, or just an EXE, etc?

The proper .INF file is being sought...


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On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:44 AM, David Mazzaccaro <
david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com> wrote:

> I can’t seem to get the 64bit driver installed on my 32bit server.
>
> Right click on the printer, properties, advanced, new driver, “have disk”,
> I browse to the folder where I downloaded the 64 bit driver from Xerox, but
> I get this message:
>
> “The specified location does not contain a compatible software driver for
> your device.  If the location contains a driver, make sure it is designed to
> work with Windows for 32bit systems”
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:38 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers
>
>
>
> Thank you very much, and thanks for that link.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:49 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers
>
>
>
> Nope, it will be an additional driver.
>
>
>
> *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:48 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> So it seems I shouldn’t have a problem loading the 64bit driver on a print
> server that is Win2003 32 bit SP2?
>
> Will it replace the 32 bit driver that is already on there (and being used
> by Win xp 32 bit machines)?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:40 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers
>
>
>
> You will need to get the 64 bit drivers and add them to the existing print
> server. No you don’t need additional printers on the server…..
>
>
>
>
> http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2010/01/19/print-driver-installation-on-32-bit-versus-64-bit-servers.aspx
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:14 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers
>
>
>
> So I’ve added my first Windows 7 64 bit machine to the domain, but I can’t
> add any of the network printers to it.
>
> Win7 says “no driver was found”.
>
> If I goto the printer server (win2003 server), right click on any of the
> network printers>sharing>additional drivers… I only have “x86, Win2000
> Winxp Win2003) checked.
>
> I can’t check x64 because it then asks for a driver location…
>
> Do I need to install the 64 bit drivers for every printer that this new
> workstation needs to connect to?
>
> I assume I’d have to create a separate printer on the server (with 64bit
> driver) just for Win7 workstations?
>
> Not sure where to start.
>
> TIA
>
>
> .
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
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R: Imaging Computers

[HELP_PC]

But they hide prices .They want your data to send you them and I don't like 
that way
 
GuidoElia
HELPPC
 

  _  

Da: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Inviato: martedì 11 gennaio 2011 15.29
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: Re: Imaging Computers


Haven't checked it out myself, but 
http://www.persystent.com/imaging-software/provisioning/ looks viable.


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On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Matthew W. Ross  
wrote:


We've been using WDS for about a year... with some success and some failures.

We believe that our WDS issues stem from a bad server, but we are also looking 
at alternatives.

Anybody have other favorate mass-imaging solutions? Snap Deploy? Ghost 
Enterprise? I'd love to hear what other solutions people are using.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District



- Original Message -
From: Sam Cayze
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To: NT System Admin Issues

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Sent: Mon, 10 Jan 2011
12:34:47 -0800
Subject: Re: Imaging Computers


> WIM images and WDS work great.  You can use PXE Boot or CD/USB Drives if you
> don't want to dwelve into PXE right away.
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Rankin, James R
> wrote:
>
> > I believe you can use WDS (formerly known as RIS) as a windows server role
> > to achieve this. There may be some gotchas so look it up. Personally I use
> > VMWare templates but you don't sound like a VDI environment.
> >
> > Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device
> > --
> > *From: * Chris Blair 
> > *Date: *Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:09:45 -0600

> > *To: *NT System Admin Issues

> > *ReplyTo: * "NT System Admin Issues" <
> > ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>

> > *Subject: *Imaging Computers

> >
> > Running Native 2003 R2 Active Directory, with all XP clients. I am looking
> > to start deploying images of XP, and eventually Win7, instead of
> "hand"
> > loading each machine. I have not done much with imaging, so any
> > recommendations, on Low Cost (read free...), solutions would great.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
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Re: domain controller in the cloud???

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 10 Jan 2011 at 14:30, Ziots, Edward  wrote:

> If you would like this slide deck ( so as not to kill the listserv)
> please email me directly. 

Couldn't you put it on YouSendIt.com and post the link here?

Also, I could host them if needed.

> Z

A


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RE: domain controller in the cloud???

[Raper, Jonathan - Eagle]

Thought provoking, if nothing else.

Thanks for sharing, Angus.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
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-Original Message-
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

On 10 Jan 2011 at 11:43, techconnect  wrote:

> We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
> that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he says
> everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders,
> authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're using, they
> want to move to gmail but there's no central management there I know of,and
> offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400 students and faculty and they
> want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I think without understanding
> everything about it(I'm not entirely clear either) and was looking for
> thoughts and opinions or resources.

Interesting take on this idea here:

= Included Stuff Follows =
Why I´m Having Second Thoughts About The Wisdom Of The Cloud

"...It used to be that if the US government wanted access to documents or
letters in my possession they´d have to subpoena me directly. As a foreign
citizen there are all sorts of ways I could fight the request - and it was
at  least my choice whether to do so. As someone living in the US I also
had the whole weight of the 4th Amendment on my side. Now, with everything
in the cloud, the decision whether to hand over my personal information is
almost entirely out of my hands. And unless, as happened with Twitter, the
company storing my data decides to fight for openness on my behalf,
there´s every possibility that I won´t even hear about the request until
it´s too late. That´s just not how things should work in a free society.

"Of course, it remains statistically unlikely that I´m going to be the
subject of a subpoena any time soon. I´m hardly an enemy of the state. But
then again, until recently, neither were many of the supporters of
Wikileaks. Who´s to say that an innocuous organisation I give support to
today won´t suddenly become highly controversial tomorrow?

"For that reason, I´m giving serious thought to the idea of taking my
communications back out of the cloud: switching back to a traditional
email client and storing my documents on my encrypted hard-drive."

= Included Stuff Ends =
Seen here:
http://techcrunch.com/2011/01/10/why-im-having-second-thoughts-about-the-wisdom-of-the-cloud/

--
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RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

[David Mazzaccaro]

I can't seem to get the 64bit driver installed on my 32bit server.

Right click on the printer, properties, advanced, new driver, "have
disk", I browse to the folder where I downloaded the 64 bit driver from
Xerox, but I get this message:

"The specified location does not contain a compatible software driver
for your device.  If the location contains a driver, make sure it is
designed to work with Windows for 32bit systems"

 

 

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

Thank you very much, and thanks for that link.

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

Nope, it will be an additional driver.

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

Thanks.

So it seems I shouldn't have a problem loading the 64bit driver on a
print server that is Win2003 32 bit SP2?

Will it replace the 32 bit driver that is already on there (and being
used by Win xp 32 bit machines)?

 

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

You will need to get the 64 bit drivers and add them to the existing
print server. No you don't need additional printers on the server.

 

http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2010/01/19/print-driver-insta
llation-on-32-bit-versus-64-bit-servers.aspx

 

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

So I've added my first Windows 7 64 bit machine to the domain, but I
can't add any of the network printers to it.

Win7 says "no driver was found".

If I goto the printer server (win2003 server), right click on any of the
network printers>sharing>additional drivers... I only have "x86, Win2000
Winxp Win2003) checked.

I can't check x64 because it then asks for a driver location...

Do I need to install the 64 bit drivers for every printer that this new
workstation needs to connect to?

I assume I'd have to create a separate printer on the server (with 64bit
driver) just for Win7 workstations?

Not sure where to start.

TIA


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Re: domain controller in the cloud???

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 10 Jan 2011 at 11:43, techconnect  wrote:

> We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
> that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he says
> everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders,
> authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're using, they
> want to move to gmail but there's no central management there I know of,and
> offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400 students and faculty and they
> want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I think without understanding
> everything about it(I'm not entirely clear either) and was looking for
> thoughts and opinions or resources. 

Interesting take on this idea here:

= Included Stuff Follows =
Why I´m Having Second Thoughts About The Wisdom Of The Cloud

"...It used to be that if the US government wanted access to documents or 
letters in my possession they´d have to subpoena me directly. As a foreign 
citizen there are all sorts of ways I could fight the request - and it was 
at  least my choice whether to do so. As someone living in the US I also 
had the whole weight of the 4th Amendment on my side. Now, with everything 
in the cloud, the decision whether to hand over my personal information is 
almost entirely out of my hands. And unless, as happened with Twitter, the 
company storing my data decides to fight for openness on my behalf, 
there´s every possibility that I won´t even hear about the request until 
it´s too late. That´s just not how things should work in a free society.

"Of course, it remains statistically unlikely that I´m going to be the 
subject of a subpoena any time soon. I´m hardly an enemy of the state. But 
then again, until recently, neither were many of the supporters of 
Wikileaks. Who´s to say that an innocuous organisation I give support to 
today won´t suddenly become highly controversial tomorrow?

"For that reason, I´m giving serious thought to the idea of taking my 
communications back out of the cloud: switching back to a traditional 
email client and storing my documents on my encrypted hard-drive."

= Included Stuff Ends =
Seen here:
http://techcrunch.com/2011/01/10/why-im-having-second-thoughts-about-the-wisdom-of-the-cloud/

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





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RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

[David Mazzaccaro]

Thank you very much, and thanks for that link.

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

Nope, it will be an additional driver.

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

Thanks.

So it seems I shouldn't have a problem loading the 64bit driver on a
print server that is Win2003 32 bit SP2?

Will it replace the 32 bit driver that is already on there (and being
used by Win xp 32 bit machines)?

 

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

You will need to get the 64 bit drivers and add them to the existing
print server. No you don't need additional printers on the server.

 

http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2010/01/19/print-driver-insta
llation-on-32-bit-versus-64-bit-servers.aspx

 

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

So I've added my first Windows 7 64 bit machine to the domain, but I
can't add any of the network printers to it.

Win7 says "no driver was found".

If I goto the printer server (win2003 server), right click on any of the
network printers>sharing>additional drivers... I only have "x86, Win2000
Winxp Win2003) checked.

I can't check x64 because it then asks for a driver location...

Do I need to install the 64 bit drivers for every printer that this new
workstation needs to connect to?

I assume I'd have to create a separate printer on the server (with 64bit
driver) just for Win7 workstations?

Not sure where to start.

TIA


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RE: Imaging Computers

[Chris Blair]

Thanks everyone. I loaded up WDS and MDT2010 last night. I am sure I will have 
some questions when I get deeper into it.


From: Tony Patton [mailto:apco...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Imaging Computers

+100 on WDS and add MDT2010 for your images, just use WDS for the PXE boot.

You can use MDT to capture your current sysprepped image or can create one for 
you.  As you import the drivers for each model you only have 1 image for 
different hardware models.

MDT can be set up as simple or as complex as you want it to be.
On 10 January 2011 20:13, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
We use WDS (Windows Deployment Services), using PXE boot. You'll need Vista 
drivers for the NICs on your target machines for the PE environment if that's 
the route you go.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


From: Chris Blair 
[mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 3:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Imaging Computers

Running Native 2003 R2 Active Directory, with all XP clients. I am looking to 
start deploying images of XP, and eventually Win7, instead of "hand" loading 
each machine. I have not done much with imaging, so any recommendations, on Low 
Cost (read free...), solutions would great.

Thanks!

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RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

[Kennedy, Jim]

Nope, it will be an additional driver.

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

Thanks.
So it seems I shouldn't have a problem loading the 64bit driver on a print 
server that is Win2003 32 bit SP2?
Will it replace the 32 bit driver that is already on there (and being used by 
Win xp 32 bit machines)?



From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

You will need to get the 64 bit drivers and add them to the existing print 
server. No you don't need additional printers on the server.

http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2010/01/19/print-driver-installation-on-32-bit-versus-64-bit-servers.aspx


From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers


So I've added my first Windows 7 64 bit machine to the domain, but I can't add 
any of the network printers to it.

Win7 says "no driver was found".

If I goto the printer server (win2003 server), right click on any of the 
network printers>sharing>additional drivers... I only have "x86, Win2000 Winxp 
Win2003) checked.

I can't check x64 because it then asks for a driver location...

Do I need to install the 64 bit drivers for every printer that this new 
workstation needs to connect to?

I assume I'd have to create a separate printer on the server (with 64bit 
driver) just for Win7 workstations?

Not sure where to start.

TIA

.

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RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

[David Mazzaccaro]

Thanks.

So it seems I shouldn't have a problem loading the 64bit driver on a
print server that is Win2003 32 bit SP2?

Will it replace the 32 bit driver that is already on there (and being
used by Win xp 32 bit machines)?

 

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

You will need to get the 64 bit drivers and add them to the existing
print server. No you don't need additional printers on the server.

 

http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2010/01/19/print-driver-insta
llation-on-32-bit-versus-64-bit-servers.aspx

 

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

 

So I've added my first Windows 7 64 bit machine to the domain, but I
can't add any of the network printers to it.

Win7 says "no driver was found".

If I goto the printer server (win2003 server), right click on any of the
network printers>sharing>additional drivers... I only have "x86, Win2000
Winxp Win2003) checked.

I can't check x64 because it then asks for a driver location...

Do I need to install the 64 bit drivers for every printer that this new
workstation needs to connect to?

I assume I'd have to create a separate printer on the server (with 64bit
driver) just for Win7 workstations?

Not sure where to start.

TIA


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RE: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

[Kennedy, Jim]

You will need to get the 64 bit drivers and add them to the existing print 
server. No you don't need additional printers on the server.

http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2010/01/19/print-driver-installation-on-32-bit-versus-64-bit-servers.aspx


From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 9:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers


So I've added my first Windows 7 64 bit machine to the domain, but I can't add 
any of the network printers to it.

Win7 says "no driver was found".

If I goto the printer server (win2003 server), right click on any of the 
network printers>sharing>additional drivers... I only have "x86, Win2000 Winxp 
Win2003) checked.

I can't check x64 because it then asks for a driver location...

Do I need to install the 64 bit drivers for every printer that this new 
workstation needs to connect to?

I assume I'd have to create a separate printer on the server (with 64bit 
driver) just for Win7 workstations?

Not sure where to start.

TIA

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Re: Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

[Andrew S. Baker]

Yes, you need to add x64 drivers if you want the clients to just pickup
their drivers from the server directly.

Or, you can add the drivers locally, although that would be more tedious as
you added more x64 systems.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc732946.aspx


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On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:13 AM, David Mazzaccaro <
david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com> wrote:

>  So I’ve added my first Windows 7 64 bit machine to the domain, but I can’t
> add any of the network printers to it.
>
> Win7 says “no driver was found”.
>
> If I goto the printer server (win2003 server), right click on any of the
> network printers>sharing>additional drivers… I only have “x86, Win2000
> Winxp Win2003) checked.
>
> I can’t check x64 because it then asks for a driver location…
>
> Do I need to install the 64 bit drivers for every printer that this new
> workstation needs to connect to?
>
> I assume I’d have to create a separate printer on the server (with 
> 64bitdriver)just for Win7 workstations?
>
> Not sure where to start.
>
> TIA
>
>

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RE: OT: Cell phone device manager

[Ken Schaefer]

System Centre Mobile Device Manager is, frankly, a PITA, and it doesn't manage 
anything except Windows Mobile devices. Not worth the effort to implement.

Cheers
Ken

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2011 2:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Cell phone device manager

I have not looked at that yet, but would think it would be for active sync or 
windows based devices.  We don't have either.

BF

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Cell phone device manager

That's one of those apps you will want to wait until the next rev of ConfigMgr 
(2012) to take a look at.

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Cell phone device manager

What about system center mobile device manager? I have very little experience 
of it however, just a quick guess

Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry(r) wireless device


From: Bob Fronk 
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:42:51 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: OT: Cell phone device manager

Hello list.

I am responsible for managing over 700 cell phones, Blackberries, Data cards, 
etc.  Currently we use an Excel spreadsheet to manage all the related info such 
as phone number, device ESN, device type, etc.  I also would like to be able to 
create various reports based off this data.

I suppose I could convert the spreadsheet into an Access database, design 
queries and reports, but time is a problem, so I am hoping to find something 
"out of the box".  Google Fu is failing me, I am only finding synch type 
software.

If you use or know of something I appreciate a reply.

Thanks

BF

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RE: OT: Cell phone device manager

[Ken Schaefer]

+1

Or look at Sybase Afaria or one of the other cross-platform vendors (but I 
don't think Afaria does data cards etc. those are better off managed in a 
CMDB/Asset tracking tool)

Cheers
Ken

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2011 3:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Cell phone device manager

Do you have an existing ticketing tool/CMDB? Create a new CI class with all the 
properties of the phones and create CIs for them like any other asset.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c   - 312.731.3132

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Cell phone device manager

We use a program called Manager Plus Pro...can use it for anything...from what 
I recall it wasn't too pricey.
http://www.managerplus.com/



On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Bob Fronk 
mailto:b...@btrfronk.com>> wrote:
Hello list.

I am responsible for managing over 700 cell phones, Blackberries, Data cards, 
etc.  Currently we use an Excel spreadsheet to manage all the related info such 
as phone number, device ESN, device type, etc.  I also would like to be able to 
create various reports based off this data.

I suppose I could convert the spreadsheet into an Access database, design 
queries and reports, but time is a problem, so I am hoping to find something 
"out of the box".  Google Fu is failing me, I am only finding synch type 
software.

If you use or know of something I appreciate a reply.

Thanks

BF



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Re: Imaging Computers

[Roger Wright]

Haven't checked it out myself, but
http://www.persystent.com/imaging-software/provisioning/ looks viable.


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On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Matthew W. Ross
wrote:

> We've been using WDS for about a year... with some success and some
> failures.
>
> We believe that our WDS issues stem from a bad server, but we are also
> looking at alternatives.
>
> Anybody have other favorate mass-imaging solutions? Snap Deploy? Ghost
> Enterprise? I'd love to hear what other solutions people are using.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Sam Cayze
> [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Mon, 10 Jan 2011
> 12:34:47 -0800
> Subject: Re: Imaging Computers
>
>
> > WIM images and WDS work great.  You can use PXE Boot or CD/USB Drives if
> you
> > don't want to dwelve into PXE right away.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Rankin, James R
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I believe you can use WDS (formerly known as RIS) as a windows server
> role
> > > to achieve this. There may be some gotchas so look it up. Personally I
> use
> > > VMWare templates but you don't sound like a VDI environment.
> > >
> > > Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device
> > > --
> > > *From: * Chris Blair 
> > > *Date: *Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:09:45 -0600
> > > *To: *NT System Admin Issues
> > > *ReplyTo: * "NT System Admin Issues" <
> > > ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> > > *Subject: *Imaging Computers
> > >
> > > Running Native 2003 R2 Active Directory, with all XP clients. I am
> looking
> > > to start deploying images of XP, and eventually Win7, instead of
> > “hand”
> > > loading each machine. I have not done much with imaging, so any
> > > recommendations, on Low Cost (read free…), solutions would great.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Windows 7 64bit not connecting to network printers

[David Mazzaccaro]

So I've added my first Windows 7 64 bit machine to the domain, but I
can't add any of the network printers to it.
Win7 says "no driver was found".
If I goto the printer server (win2003 server), right click on any of the
network printers>sharing>additional drivers... I only have "x86, Win2000
Winxp Win2003) checked.
I can't check x64 because it then asks for a driver location...

Do I need to install the 64 bit drivers for every printer that this new
workstation needs to connect to?
I assume I'd have to create a separate printer on the server (with 64bit
driver) just for Win7 workstations?
Not sure where to start.
TIA




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RE: Imaging Computers

[Michael B. Smith]

I HATE being wrong in a public forum. :)

MDT is fine. It's a no-cost solution accelerator.

I was thinking of MDOP (Microsoft Desktop Optimization Pack).

I apologize for any confusion.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
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From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 5:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Imaging Computers

Can you expand on those restrictions?

-Anders

On 10 jan 2011, at 23:12, "Michael B. Smith" 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
MDT has some licensing restrictions(that's why I generally just say "check 
out the WAIK")

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Malcolm Reitz 
[mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 3:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Imaging Computers

Look at Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010. It will give you a platform for 
creating OS and application builds that you can customize to your needs. We use 
MDT's big brother, SCCM 2007's Operating System Deployment, for our most of PC 
builds now.

Note that this is much easier in Windows 7 than it is in XP, as the tool is 
more focused on the current OS (plus Win 7's driver model is much easier to 
work with).


-Malcolm



From: Chris Blair 
[mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 14:10
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Imaging Computers

Running Native 2003 R2 Active Directory, with all XP clients. I am looking to 
start deploying images of XP, and eventually Win7, instead of "hand" loading 
each machine. I have not done much with imaging, so any recommendations, on Low 
Cost (read free...), solutions would great.

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RE: Deploying Riverbed Appliances

[Steve Burkett]

If you've got more than say 5 to do, then you'd use the Riverbed Central
Management Console to control and deploy policies and settings to all
the connected Steelhead boxes. Is licensed on how many devices you want
to manage using it so will cost you at least another couple of grand.
Comes in a virtual appliance or hardware appliance form. 

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 10 January 2011 20:04
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Deploying Riverbed Appliances

 

I saw in an earlier thread that many of you seemed familiar with and
recommended Riverbed Appliances.
What's the process to deploy these?  Can an image/configuration be
deployed to multiple units quickly?  How long to load a premade
configuration?
They seem to really highlight ease of deployment on their website,
curious about the specifics.

TIA,

Sam

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Re: Imaging Computers

[Anders Blomgren]

Can you expand on those restrictions?

-Anders

On 10 jan 2011, at 23:12, "Michael B. Smith"  wrote:

 MDT has some licensing restrictions….(that’s why I generally just say
“check out the WAIK”)



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*From:* Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com]
*Sent:* Monday, January 10, 2011 3:59 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Imaging Computers



Look at Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010. It will give you a platform for
creating OS and application builds that you can customize to your needs. We
use MDT’s big brother, SCCM 2007’s Operating System Deployment, for our most
of PC builds now.



Note that this is much easier in Windows 7 than it is in XP, as the tool is
more focused on the current OS (plus Win 7’s driver model is much easier to
work with).





-Malcolm







*From:* Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com]
*Sent:* Monday, January 10, 2011 14:10
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Imaging Computers



Running Native 2003 R2 Active Directory, with all XP clients. I am looking
to start deploying images of XP, and eventually Win7, instead of “hand”
loading each machine. I have not done much with imaging, so any
recommendations, on Low Cost (read free…), solutions would great.



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Re: Imaging Computers

[Tony Patton]

+100 on WDS and add MDT2010 for your images, just use WDS for the PXE boot.

You can use MDT to capture your current sysprepped image or can create one
for you.  As you import the drivers for each model you only have 1 image for
different hardware models.

MDT can be set up as simple or as complex as you want it to be.

On 10 January 2011 20:13, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle wrote:

>  We use WDS (Windows Deployment Services), using PXE boot. You’ll need
> Vista drivers for the NICs on your target machines for the PE environment if
> that’s the route you go.
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
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> *From:* Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 10, 2011 3:10 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Imaging Computers
>
>
>
> Running Native 2003 R2 Active Directory, with all XP clients. I am looking
> to start deploying images of XP, and eventually Win7, instead of “hand”
> loading each machine. I have not done much with imaging, so any
> recommendations, on Low Cost (read free…), solutions would great.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
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RE: Windows 7 PC: "the group policy client service failed the logon. Access denied"

[Kevan Dickinson]

Hi

 

Windows 7 Profesional.

 

Kevan Dickinson

Network Manager

NSF-CMI

23 Lodge Road

Hanborough Business Park, Long Hanborough,

Oxford, OX29 8SJ, UK

 

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W:www.nsf-cmi.com

 

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 10 January 2011 23:43
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 7 PC: "the group policy client service failed the
logon. Access denied"

 

Possibly a stupid question but which version of Windows 7?

 

Jon

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Miller Bonnie L.
 wrote:

Ideas: Share permissions to the profile folder don't allow full control
or possible typo in the actual profile path applied to the user account?

 

-Bonnie

 

From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@cmi-plc.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:02 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Windows 7 PC: "the group policy client service failed the
logon. Access denied"

 

I have tried that as well already, but it did not make any difference.

 

Kevan Dickinson

Network Manager

NSF-CMI

23 Lodge Road

Hanborough Business Park, Long Hanborough,

Oxford, OX29 8SJ, UK

 

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From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 10 January 2011 18:00 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Windows 7 PC: "the group policy client service failed the
logon. Access denied"

 

Delete it before they next log on then?

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From: "Kevan Dickinson"  

Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:53:40 -

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: Windows 7 PC: "the group policy client service failed the
logon. Access denied"

 

Yes I have checked the registry on the local machine and can see that a
GUID has been created for her at HKLM\software\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList

 

Kevan Dickinson

Network Manager

NSF-CMI

23 Lodge Road

Hanborough Business Park, Long Hanborough,

Oxford, OX29 8SJ, UK

 

T:+44 01993 885661

E:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com  

W:www.nsf-cmi.com  

 

 

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 10 January 2011 17:48
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 7 PC: "the group policy client service failed the
logon. Access denied"

 

Have you checked for the ProfileList entry in the Registry?

Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry(r) wireless device



From: "Kevan Dickinson"  

Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 17:40:20 -

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: Windows 7 PC: "the group policy client service failed the
logon. Access denied"

 

 

Hi

 

Yes I have Googled the error. A lot of people point the problem towards
profiles. I have tried deleting the local profile and the network
profile with no luck.

 

I can log into this PC with my network credentials.  We have even made
the user a local admin, just to see if we can get her logged into this
PC.

She has Full control and is Owner of her Network Profile Folder.

 

She can log into a Windows XP PC fine.

 

Regards.

 

Kevan Dickinson

Network Manager

NSF-CMI

23 Lodge Road

Hanborough Business Park, Long Hanborough,

Oxford, OX29 8SJ, UK

 

T:+44 01993 885661

E:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com  

W:www.nsf-cmi.com  

 

 

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 10 January 2011 17:00
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 PC: "the group policy client service failed the
logon. Access denied"

 

Have you googled the error message?  Plenty of matches, plenty of
causes.

 

Big hammer:  Delete the local cached copy of the roaming profile.  If no
help, delete the network copy of the roaming profile.

 

Carl

 

From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:kevan.dickin...@cmi-plc.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 7 PC: "the group policy client service failed the
logon. Access denied"

 

Hi

We are trying to log a user onto a windows 7 PC in a Windows server 2003
domain.
The user has a .V2 user profile folder on the Network.

Each time we try to log her in we get this error message "the group
policy client service failed the logon. Access denied".  She can log on
to an XP machine OK.

Can anyone help please?

Regards

 

Kevan Dickinson

Network Manager

NSF-CMI

23 Lodge Road

Hanborough Business Park, Long Hanborough,

Oxford, OX29 8SJ, UK

 

T:+44 01993 885661

E:kevan.dickin...@nsf-cmi.com  

W:www.nsf-cmi.com  

 

 

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