Re: Prevent IE 10 install in SCE/SCCM

[Tom Miller]

That's an excellent tip!  I did that for IE 10.  It showed up in SCE after
I imported it.  Oddly IE 9 appears as "not approved" in "WSUS" but does not
appear in the SCE console.  But I can disapprove from WSUS anyway.

Tom


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Miller Bonnie L. <
mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu> wrote:

> If SCE uses WSUS, you could import to the catalog and then decline or not
> approve it—that is what I’ve done so far.  Mike Griswold has a nice post
> here on how to do that—you would just search for IE 10 instead of the
> update listed in the article (although you may also want to test the rollup
> listed =] )
>
> ** **
>
>
> http://blogs.technet.com/b/michaelgriswold/archive/2013/03/13/kb2775511-deployment-for-the-sccm-admin.aspx
> 
>
> ** **
>
> -Bonnie
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 12, 2013 6:21 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Prevent IE 10 install in SCE/SCCM
>
> ** **
>
> Anyone have any suggestions on how I can prevent the Internet Explorer 10
> update/install from being distributed via System Center Essentials (SCE is
> similar to System Center Configuration Manager but has fewer features and
> is generally a crappy product, and is EOL.  But I'm stuck with it because
> management is too cheap to spend $$ on a better product.)
>
>  
>
> I have updates synchronized to Critica Updates, Security Updates, Service
> Packs, Update Rollups, and Updates.  For products, I have our versions of
> Windows, Office and any other applications we use that are available for
> selection.  I do not see  where IE would be.
>
>  
>
> Somehow, even though PCs have managed updates, IE 10 is being pushed.  I
> do not see it when I search All Updates.
>
>  
>
> Suggestions?
>
>  
>
>  
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Re: Prevent IE 10 install in SCE/SCCM

[Tom Miller]

SCE only.  I know  users can select to check for updates from Microsoft,
but very few user would think to do so.


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Kennedy, Jim  wrote:

>  Are your machines set to only get updates from SCE? Or are they pulling
> it by themselves from MS Update somehow?
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 12, 2013 10:01 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Prevent IE 10 install in SCE/SCCM
>
> ** **
>
> That's the issue.  I don't see it as an update in SCE.  I would expect it
> with the other IE updates but it's not there.
>
> ** **
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Kennedy, Jim <
> kennedy...@elyriaschools.org> wrote:
>
> You can’t right click the update in SCE and hit decline?
>
>  
>
> *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 12, 2013 9:42 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Prevent IE 10 install in SCE/SCCM
>
>  
>
> Funny I was reading that before I sent my inquiry.  I was hoping to be
> able to do it in SCE.
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Kennedy, Jim <
> kennedy...@elyriaschools.org> wrote:
>
> Run this as a machine startup script once.
>
>  
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=36512
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 12, 2013 9:22 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Prevent IE 10 install in SCE/SCCM
>
>  
>
> Anyone have any suggestions on how I can prevent the Internet Explorer 10
> update/install from being distributed via System Center Essentials (SCE is
> similar to System Center Configuration Manager but has fewer features and
> is generally a crappy product, and is EOL.  But I'm stuck with it because
> management is too cheap to spend $$ on a better product.)
>
>  
>
> I have updates synchronized to Critica Updates, Security Updates, Service
> Packs, Update Rollups, and Updates.  For products, I have our versions of
> Windows, Office and any other applications we use that are available for
> selection.  I do not see  where IE would be.
>
>  
>
> Somehow, even though PCs have managed updates, IE 10 is being pushed.  I
> do not see it when I search All Updates.
>
>  
>
> Suggestions?
>
>  
>
>  
>
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Re: Prevent IE 10 install in SCE/SCCM

[Tom Miller]

That's the issue.  I don't see it as an update in SCE.  I would expect it
with the other IE updates but it's not there.


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Kennedy, Jim
wrote:

>  You can’t right click the update in SCE and hit decline?
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 12, 2013 9:42 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Prevent IE 10 install in SCE/SCCM
>
> ** **
>
> Funny I was reading that before I sent my inquiry.  I was hoping to be
> able to do it in SCE.
>
> ** **
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Kennedy, Jim <
> kennedy...@elyriaschools.org> wrote:
>
> Run this as a machine startup script once.
>
>  
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=36512
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 12, 2013 9:22 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Prevent IE 10 install in SCE/SCCM
>
>  
>
> Anyone have any suggestions on how I can prevent the Internet Explorer 10
> update/install from being distributed via System Center Essentials (SCE is
> similar to System Center Configuration Manager but has fewer features and
> is generally a crappy product, and is EOL.  But I'm stuck with it because
> management is too cheap to spend $$ on a better product.)
>
>  
>
> I have updates synchronized to Critica Updates, Security Updates, Service
> Packs, Update Rollups, and Updates.  For products, I have our versions of
> Windows, Office and any other applications we use that are available for
> selection.  I do not see  where IE would be.
>
>  
>
> Somehow, even though PCs have managed updates, IE 10 is being pushed.  I
> do not see it when I search All Updates.
>
>  
>
> Suggestions?
>
>  
>
>  
>
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Re: Prevent IE 10 install in SCE/SCCM

[Tom Miller]

Funny I was reading that before I sent my inquiry.  I was hoping to be able
to do it in SCE.


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Kennedy, Jim
wrote:

>  Run this as a machine startup script once.
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=36512
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 12, 2013 9:22 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Prevent IE 10 install in SCE/SCCM
>
> ** **
>
> Anyone have any suggestions on how I can prevent the Internet Explorer 10
> update/install from being distributed via System Center Essentials (SCE is
> similar to System Center Configuration Manager but has fewer features and
> is generally a crappy product, and is EOL.  But I'm stuck with it because
> management is too cheap to spend $$ on a better product.)
>
>  
>
> I have updates synchronized to Critica Updates, Security Updates, Service
> Packs, Update Rollups, and Updates.  For products, I have our versions of
> Windows, Office and any other applications we use that are available for
> selection.  I do not see  where IE would be.
>
>  
>
> Somehow, even though PCs have managed updates, IE 10 is being pushed.  I
> do not see it when I search All Updates.
>
>  
>
> Suggestions?
>
>  
>
>  
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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Re: Push msi install package

[Tom Miller]

Any swith I use (/qb, /passive, etc) works fine after the user accepts the
warning dialog.  It's the dialog that I think is making the managed
installation fail.


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:44 PM, David Lum  wrote:

>  I always have better luck with .MSI’s vs. exe’s. Have you tried the
> various other switches available with the .MSI file?
>
> ** **
>
> Dave
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:36 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Push msi install package
>
> ** **
>
> Hi Folks,
>
>  
>
> We use Ricoh printers/copiers here.  They provide an agent that can be
> installed onto desktops so we can manage print configuration, setup, and
> reporting.
>
>  
>
> The agent is signed with a valid public certificate.  The problem I am
> having is that the push installation (via System Center Essentails) fails,
> I think because users always receive the "Open File Security Warning" popup
> if this is run manually, but I try to surpress that with the /quiet switch,
> and it fails.   I can disable that via GPO, but I do not wish to do that.
> 
>
>  
>
> Do I need to go back to the vendor and have them recompile as an EXE
> instead?  Suggestions appreciated.
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Push msi install package

[Tom Miller]

Hi Folks,

We use Ricoh printers/copiers here.  They provide an agent that can be
installed onto desktops so we can manage print configuration, setup, and
reporting.

The agent is signed with a valid public certificate.  The problem I am
having is that the push installation (via System Center Essentails) fails,
I think because users always receive the "Open File Security Warning" popup
if this is run manually, but I try to surpress that with the /quiet switch,
and it fails.   I can disable that via GPO, but I do not wish to do that.

Do I need to go back to the vendor and have them recompile as an EXE
instead?  Suggestions appreciated.

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Folder redirection questions

[Tom Miller]

We have a project to enable folder redirection here.  The goal is to
redirect anything saved on the local \My Documents to the user's home
folder.  I'd exclude the normal temp files and junk as well as PST files,
since users tend to have huge PST files saved locally.  (We archive mail
via an appliance so if a PST were not accessible we could use that.)

Most desktops are Windows 7.  Servers are Windows 2008 R2.  I will probably
create a DFS share to replicate the shares between our sites.  We have a
number of users who travel to and from our various sites.  We also have a
number of sales staff who connect via VPN but are rarely at one of our
offices.

Any suggestions for this sort of scenario?  Any third party products to
recommend or is GPO satisfactory?  We may use a remote backup method for
our sales folks (something like CrashPlan) instead of folder redirection
for them.

Thanks,
Tom

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RE: GFi Mailarchiver - Was Exchange mail archiving solution

[Tom Miller]

We use a Jatheon appliance here for archiving.  Users like how it snaps
into Outlook.  Easy to manage and support is good.  Seems to be some sort
of *nix backend.   I like how there are standard user accounts, admin
accounts, and compliance officer accounts.

275 users but huge user accounts.
On Mar 20, 2013 9:26 AM, "Kennedy, Jim" 
wrote:

>  I am running full SQL for both. I think the added speed and the savings
> in storage space make it well worth it. But we have the SQL license for
> other things…so that may be a factor for you.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Ralph Smith [mailto:m...@gatewayindustries.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 20, 2013 9:14 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* GFi Mailarchiver - Was Exchange mail archiving solution
>
> ** **
>
> T –
>
> Just wondering – I’m just starting a trial of GFi MailArcher 2012, moving
> away from a previous solution.
>
> Are you using purely SQL server for indexing and message storage, or SQL
> and file storage?  They advised me to use just SQL for my org, which has
> about 200 mailboxes.  I’m running the trial with SQL Express 2012 and file
> storage, so far everything seems to work quite well.
>
> ** **
>
> *Ralph *
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Kennedy, Jim 
> [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:26 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Exchange mail archiving solution
>
> ** **
>
> I'll add GFI Mailarchiver to the list. Been running it for years and I am
> very happy. Last few versions have been downright snappy to use. Tech
> support is outstanding. I would not recommend it for a large org though, we
> are running about a 1000 mailboxes with 7 years of email on it and it is
> doing fine.
>  --
>
> *From:* Tigran K [tigr...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:57 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Exchange mail archiving solution
>
> Thanks you all. I'll look into the solutions suggested. 
>
> ** **
>
> --T
>
> ** **
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:***
> *
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Tigran K  wrote:
> > I'm looking for an open source or freeware or really inexpensive email
> > archiving solutions.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Running Exchange 2010 and Outlook on all clients.
> >
> > Thanks
>
> Better to ask on the sister list to this one, for Exchange.
>
> However, this one has been around for a long time:
> https://www.mailarchiva.com/
>
> There are a myriad of others, including from Barracuda, ranging in
> price from inexpensive to gold-plated and comes in a diamond-encrusted
> case.
>
> Kurt
>
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RE: Meraki

[Tom Miller]

We're looking at Meraki for our two manufacturing facilities.Here at HQ we 
installed Cisco wireless last year.  I've been trying to get Cisco to buy back 
the equipment so it would be Meraki everywhere.  So far no luck - seems like 
they are pretty much separate companies.   I'm still hopeful since I like the 
meraki management.

From: Patrick Salmon [mailto:psal...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Meraki

Since it came up the other week (and with full disclosure: I am a Cisco 
employee and Meraki is now a part of Cisco), anybody want a free AP? Yeah. Free.

Follow link. sign up. Participate in webinar. Validate shipping details. Done. 
Before I get spanked, it is limited to NA and EU so apologies to anyone outside 
those geos.

802.11n, fully cloud-managed with a 3-yr subscription. Setup is a breeze.

I did this a couple of months ago and was very happy with the MR16 they sent 
(I'm pretty certain that's the $699 one referenced in the link) and when I 
certified (SE's and Cisco partners only) they replaced it with the MR24 (more 
radios) added the NGFW and POE Switch. My home network is now entirely Meraki 
and while I have incentive to be somewhat biased have found it to be uber cool 
in its own right. Kinda harks back to the good old days when you could get 
Cisco t-shirts and books just by finding the right link; this is one such link, 
and you're welcome ;-)

Link here: http://www.meraki.com/freeap

Pat.

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RE: Fortigate (was Guest network security)

[Tom Miller]

You may wish to inquire with your reseller about a trade-back.  I had a number 
of 40C devices, upgraded the firmware per support's recommendation, and it was 
a disaster.  Utilization skyrocketed on all of them and it turned out to be one 
of the core services that I could not disable, and it caused the VPN tunnel to 
constantly drop (this didn't start until a few weeks after the firmware was 
upgraded).  I worked out a pretty good deal with my reseller for the next model 
up for a great price.  I only got this deal after I told the reseller (who was 
very helpful) that I'd be happy to dump Fortinet and go with a competitor.

Fortinet probably removed some features because the lower-end machines couldn't 
handle the required workload, I'm guessing.

I didn't see the issue on the higher models I used.

From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Fortigate (was Guest network security)

I came across the same issue with a recently purchased 40C and was also 
disappointed.

The 60C (soon to be 60D with 2 x the performance) has the traffic shaping 
option and pretty much everything else.

Maybe I didn't look hard enough but it certainly isn't made obvious on their 
website that the lower end models have features missing.

James.

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 15 February 2013 2:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fortigate (was Guest network security)

One note:  It looks like Traffic Shaping and the Explicit Web Proxy option are 
no longer available under the new OS for certain pieces of hardware, including 
my 40C.   I suspect that anything in the SOHO range had it removed.

I'm going to downgrade to v4.0 MR3 patch 11, as advised by support.

That's not cool.  :(

I've asked to see if that functionality will be brought back into the device...

(Actually, I found that MR3 patch 12 was released on the 13th, so I've 
downgraded to that)






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On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Sam Cayze 
mailto:sca...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good to know, thanks!

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 8:10 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Fortigate (was Guest network security)

Version 5.0 installed smoothly.  The visual changes are somewhat minimal for 
now, but the performance of the UI improved.  Can't say for the rest of the 
device (performance wise) as I haven't finished migrating to it.

The backups are much smaller under 5.0 than under v4






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On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I will, as soon as I finish setting this device up today. :)






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On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Sam Cayze 
mailto:sca...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Speaking of Fortigate... (Much love btw).

Has anyone taken the jump to V5 of the OS yet?  They've patched it once or 
twice already; should be stable.



From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 8:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Guest network security

Whoa!!!  That looks awesome. Man, I could really have gone for that a few 
weeks back.

My Fortigate 40C arrives tomorrow. :)






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On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Richard Stovall 
mailto:rich...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I chose to build a new system so it would be small and silent rather than use 
an old computer lying around the house.

I went with:

Intel D2500CCE fanless mini-ITX motherboard (Dual core 1.86 GHz Atom CPU with 
dual Intel NICs onboard)

4 GB RAM

128GB Vertex 4 SSD

It has been in 'production' for a couple of weeks now, and is stable and very 
fast.  I also really like having the content filtering and antivirus 
capabilities of a UTM firewall at home.

The management interface is a little weird at first, but you get used to it.

I demo'ed the software in a VirtualBox VM for a week or so before pulling the 
trigger on the hardware expense.

If anyone is interested, the page at Sophos describing the offering is:  
http://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/free-tools/sophos-utm-home-edition.aspx


On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Kurt Buff 
mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Our Sidewinders are EOL at the end of April, and my manager doesn't like them.

He's a Cisco bigot, and wants ASAs in 

RE: VMWare snapshot issue

[Tom Miller]

Yes, I tried it both powered on and powered off.  I  have a ticket with vmware 
- will let the list know what the eventual resolution is.  Thanks for the 
recommendations.

From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 5:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare snapshot issue

Is the VM powered on when you attempt this? Have you tried with the VM powered 
off?

- Sean

On Feb 4, 2013, at 6:48 AM, Tom Miller 
mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com>> wrote:
Hi Folks,

VMWare question for you VMWare gurus:  I'm running ESX 5.0, vShpere client 5.0. 
 I  have one server that has many snapshots.  It is probably because BackupExec 
wasn't able to delete the snaphot properly after the vm backup.  This is only 
an issue on this server.  When I browse the datastore --> server name, I see at 
least 10 snapshots.  I've tried to consolidate the snapshots via the client, 
but each time I get an i/o error.

Suggestions or is this a call to support?

Thanks,
Tom

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RE: VMWare snapshot issue

[Tom Miller]

Can you tell me the commands off-hand?  I'm fairly new to VMWare and am still 
learning.

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 12:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare snapshot issue

But that doesn't answer my question. You can't delete the snapshots by browsing 
the datastore, but you can delete them via PowerCLI. This would allow you to 
delete the snapshots one or two at a time to try and workaround the issue since 
consolidate fails.

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.447.6014 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare snapshot issue

I see them when I browse the datastore.

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare snapshot issue

Do you see the snapshots from PowerCLI?

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.447.6014 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare snapshot issue

They don't appear in snapshot manager.  But I can select the consolidate 
option.  After an hour or so is when I get the input/output error.

From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare snapshot issue

Have you started at the oldest snapshot and deleted (rather than consolidate)?  
 To delete each snapshot may take some time - perhaps hours!

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 9:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare snapshot issue

Hi Folks,

VMWare question for you VMWare gurus:  I'm running ESX 5.0, vShpere client 5.0. 
 I  have one server that has many snapshots.  It is probably because BackupExec 
wasn't able to delete the snaphot properly after the vm backup.  This is only 
an issue on this server.  When I browse the datastore --> server name, I see at 
least 10 snapshots.  I've tried to consolidate the snapshots via the client, 
but each time I get an i/o error.

Suggestions or is this a call to support?

Thanks,
Tom

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RE: Robocopy reliability

[Tom Miller]

I've used it many times for file migration moves and even for permissions 
copies.  Just this past weekend I migrated a pretty complex old Windows 2008 
server shared to Windows 2008 R2 this past weekend.  I didn't copy permissions 
since they were a mess.

The only errors I've seen were my own, usually syntax or spelling.

What are you trying to do?

From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Robocopy reliability

Having a discussion with the boss on how we should do something I suggested 
robocopy. His reply was a strict "NO". Reasoning was that it's not reliable. He 
said "I've seen it break".

So my question is have you seen it break? Is robocopy any more or less reliable 
than built in copy? I did point out that robocopy is built in to windows as 
well at least for Windows7. Didn't seem to help.

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RE: VMWare snapshot issue

[Tom Miller]

I see them when I browse the datastore.

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare snapshot issue

Do you see the snapshots from PowerCLI?

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.447.6014 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare snapshot issue

They don't appear in snapshot manager.  But I can select the consolidate 
option.  After an hour or so is when I get the input/output error.

From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare snapshot issue

Have you started at the oldest snapshot and deleted (rather than consolidate)?  
 To delete each snapshot may take some time - perhaps hours!

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 9:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare snapshot issue

Hi Folks,

VMWare question for you VMWare gurus:  I'm running ESX 5.0, vShpere client 5.0. 
 I  have one server that has many snapshots.  It is probably because BackupExec 
wasn't able to delete the snaphot properly after the vm backup.  This is only 
an issue on this server.  When I browse the datastore --> server name, I see at 
least 10 snapshots.  I've tried to consolidate the snapshots via the client, 
but each time I get an i/o error.

Suggestions or is this a call to support?

Thanks,
Tom

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RE: VMWare snapshot issue

[Tom Miller]

They don't appear in snapshot manager.  But I can select the consolidate 
option.  After an hour or so is when I get the input/output error.

From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 11:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare snapshot issue

Have you started at the oldest snapshot and deleted (rather than consolidate)?  
 To delete each snapshot may take some time - perhaps hours!

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 9:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare snapshot issue

Hi Folks,

VMWare question for you VMWare gurus:  I'm running ESX 5.0, vShpere client 5.0. 
 I  have one server that has many snapshots.  It is probably because BackupExec 
wasn't able to delete the snaphot properly after the vm backup.  This is only 
an issue on this server.  When I browse the datastore --> server name, I see at 
least 10 snapshots.  I've tried to consolidate the snapshots via the client, 
but each time I get an i/o error.

Suggestions or is this a call to support?

Thanks,
Tom

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RE: Patch management recommendations

[Tom Miller]

Cost depends on your business type, appliance used, and the number of nodes you 
need.  I saved so many man-hours with KBox and that was a big factor.  (About 
four years I ago I tried to get SCCM working.  We got it working, but it 
required constant attention and so many man-hours.  In the end I spent so many 
man-hours on it that the cheap non-profit cost was pointless.  Changed to more 
expensive Kbox and cut the man-hours by 75% easily.  My experience only and no 
offense to you SCCM folks.)

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 11:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations

We looked at the KBox several years ago. Is it still extremely expensive? (I 
think we were quoted $20,000, which is a lot for us.)


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Tom Miller
[mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Fri, 18 Jan 2013
04:25:03 -0800
Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations


> I had a conference yesterday with the Kace team and a product 
> overview.  The newest release has lots of cool features that I didn't 
> see in the version I used previously.  And if you do not already have 
> a help desk, you can use that module (no extra cost).  For small 
> companies like mine, this sort of all-in-one product is great.  Users 
> can enter tickets, install software (system perms not logged in user), 
> and read any internal KB docs you wish to post.  KBox also comes with 
> two Bomguard licenses, so you do not need extra GoToAssist or whatever 
> purchases, if you just need a few licenses.
> 
> Not that it may matter to the list, but I always found the Kbox agent 
> very easy to deploy and upgrade.
> 
> Tom
> 
> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:39 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations
> 
> We run Kace as a Virtual appliance (K1000) with no tweaks and it 
> handles our approx. 250 computers with no issue.
> 
>  John W. Cook
> Network Operations Manager
> Partnership For Strong Families
> 5950 NW 1st Place
> Gainesville, Fl 32607
> Office (352) 244-1610
> Cell (352) 215-6944
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
> 
> From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:36 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations
> 
> Almost all the Virginia Community colleges, dumped Altiris in favor of KACE.
> The latest update to Altiris was a disaster for everyone that attempted it.
> We were not one of the brave colleges to try, but from what I heard, 
> the system requirements were huge, a dual socket, quad core server 
> with 24gig ram was barely adequate to serve 3 to 400 client workstations.
> Ouch.
> We currently run both the K1000 and K2000 on a HP/Compaq dl-380 dual 
> socket, quad core with 16gig ram under vmware 5 and it is very responsive.
> Also two other windows virtuals on the same host.
> The instructor led training was very good also.
> 
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:08 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations
> 
> I'd take a step back to wait and see on Altiris with yesterday's news.
> 
> http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/01/16/altiris-to-become-altiris-
> again-symantec-dumping-it-for-less-than-it-paid/
> 
> From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:40 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Patch management recommendations
> 
> Kace
> Altiris
> SCCM with SCUP
> 
> One of these should fit most of your clients needs.
> Christopher Bodnar
> Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise 
> Architecture and Engineering Services
> 
> Tel 610-807-6459
> 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 
> christopher_bod...@glic.com
> 
> [cid:image001.jpg@01CDF492.11CAAC30]
> 
> The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
> 
> www.guardianlife.com<http://www.guardianlife.com/>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From:"Charlie Kaiser"
> mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org>>
> To:"NT System Admin Issues"
> mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
> Date:01/16/2013 06:04 PM
> Subject:Patch management recommendations
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As 
> we increase our client load and the size of the clien

RE: Patch management recommendations

[Tom Miller]

I had a conference yesterday with the Kace team and a product overview.  The 
newest release has lots of cool features that I didn't see in the version I 
used previously.  And if you do not already have a help desk, you can use that 
module (no extra cost).  For small companies like mine, this sort of all-in-one 
product is great.  Users can enter tickets, install software (system perms not 
logged in user), and read any internal KB docs you wish to post.  KBox also 
comes with two Bomguard licenses, so you do not need extra GoToAssist or 
whatever purchases, if you just need a few licenses.

Not that it may matter to the list, but I always found the Kbox agent very easy 
to deploy and upgrade.

Tom

From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations

We run Kace as a Virtual appliance (K1000) with no tweaks and it handles our 
approx. 250 computers with no issue.

 John W. Cook
Network Operations Manager
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations

Almost all the Virginia Community colleges, dumped Altiris in favor of KACE.
The latest update to Altiris was a disaster for everyone that attempted it.
We were not one of the brave colleges to try, but from what I heard, the system 
requirements were huge, a dual socket, quad core server with 24gig ram was 
barely adequate to serve 3 to 400 client workstations.
Ouch.
We currently run both the K1000 and K2000 on a HP/Compaq dl-380 dual socket, 
quad core with 16gig ram under vmware 5 and it is very responsive.
Also two other windows virtuals on the same host.
The instructor led training was very good also.

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations

I'd take a step back to wait and see on Altiris with yesterday's news.

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/01/16/altiris-to-become-altiris-again-symantec-dumping-it-for-less-than-it-paid/

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Patch management recommendations

Kace
Altiris
SCCM with SCUP

One of these should fit most of your clients needs.
Christopher Bodnar
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture 
and Engineering Services

Tel 610-807-6459
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017
christopher_bod...@glic.com

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From:"Charlie Kaiser" 
mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org>>
To:"NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date:01/16/2013 06:04 PM
Subject:Patch management recommendations




I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As we
increase our client load and the size of the clients (moving from the 3-10
seat to the 50-1000 seat clients) we are implementing more advanced products
for a variety of tasks.

We are currently looking at patch management solutions. Our current paradigm
is a mix of WSUS and manual intervention, but it's not enough, obviously. I
haven't used a centralized patch management system for around 5-6 years
(used to use early versions of Shavlik) so I haven't been keeping up with
the market. We're now looking for something that does 3rd party apps, not
just MS stuff, so WSUS is off the table. Our clients are all on MS
platforms, though; almost no *nix or Apple.

I don't envision a one-size-fits-all product. I expect that we'll want a
variety of solutions tailored to the size and complexity of the client. And
I have no illusions about the "ease" of patch management given any product.
:-)
My boss would love an MSP-style of centrally managed product that can handle
all our clients, but my belief is that trying to go that route is much more
difficult than doing per-client implementations, especially without
dedicated patch management admins.

Having said all that, is anyone working with patch management systems that
they really like for this space? Also, any you really DON'T like?

Thanks!

***
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RE: PC/server management

[Tom Miller]

Thanks - I must have been mesmerized by all the shiny photos on the site...

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: PC/server management

Just patching?  Have you looked at the page today.  Rev 4 was just released.  
Provides everything you'd find in ConfigMgr, except in the Cloud.

www.windowsintune.com<http://www.windowsintune.com>

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: PC/server management

I looked at the Intune page and it seems to focus on patching but not much 
else.  It might do more but Microsoft's web page on it does not give much 
information.

KBox runs as an agent over port 80 or 443 - depends on if you want to use 
certs.  I've ever seen any high utilization from agents, even when running 
force inventory, patching, app push.I never used it for OS push or imaging 
so I can't speak to that.

Tell your engineers to give it a try..  Or do they prefer to manually patch 
everything on those servers?

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 2:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: PC/server management



Hey Rod, how are things?  Does intune give you the ability to do lifecycle 
management?

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Rod Trent 
mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>> wrote:
Ahem...Windows Intune

Sent from Windows Phone 8

From: Mathew Shember<mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com>
Sent: 1/15/2013 2:21 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Subject: RE: PC/server management
What kind of a footprint does Kace introduce to a system?

I have many engineers who are literally "cycle counters" and will notice just 
about anything installed and start complaining about wasted resources.

They run the servers hard and like them lean as possible.

The Kace people have been after me to allow them on the engineering servers.



From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: PC/server management

I just had the Kace rep in my office yesterday afternoon and it seems like a 
pretty comprehensive product.  I am going to check out the Landesk lunch and 
learn later this month as well.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Tom Miller 
mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com>> wrote:
Folks,

Looking for recommendations for pc/server management (Windows devices only at 
this time).  At my last job I used Kace appliances and they were great.  I am 
looking at those this time but thought I'd ask the list for additional 
suggestions.

At my new job we  have System Center Essentials 2007.  It's not so good but it 
is old and I understand that product is EOL.

Looking for:  patch distribution/management, inventorying, reporting, ability 
to create granular groups based on factors like IP, machine type, AD 
memberships, OU location, software deployment, and remote control (not super 
important since we already own a product for this).  Embedded help desk, even 
if basic, would be a bonus.  This place doesn't have one currently.

This would be for about 350 nodes.   Can be appliance, vmware machine, or even 
hosted.  As long as it does what I need.

Thanks,
Tom

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RE: PC/server management

[Tom Miller]

I looked at the Intune page and it seems to focus on patching but not much 
else.  It might do more but Microsoft's web page on it does not give much 
information.

KBox runs as an agent over port 80 or 443 - depends on if you want to use 
certs.  I've ever seen any high utilization from agents, even when running 
force inventory, patching, app push.I never used it for OS push or imaging 
so I can't speak to that.

Tell your engineers to give it a try..  Or do they prefer to manually patch 
everything on those servers?

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 2:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: PC/server management



Hey Rod, how are things?  Does intune give you the ability to do lifecycle 
management?

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Rod Trent 
mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>> wrote:
Ahem...Windows Intune

Sent from Windows Phone 8

From: Mathew Shember<mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com>
Sent: 1/15/2013 2:21 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Subject: RE: PC/server management
What kind of a footprint does Kace introduce to a system?

I have many engineers who are literally "cycle counters" and will notice just 
about anything installed and start complaining about wasted resources.

They run the servers hard and like them lean as possible.

The Kace people have been after me to allow them on the engineering servers.



From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com<mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: PC/server management

I just had the Kace rep in my office yesterday afternoon and it seems like a 
pretty comprehensive product.  I am going to check out the Landesk lunch and 
learn later this month as well.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Tom Miller 
mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com>> wrote:
Folks,

Looking for recommendations for pc/server management (Windows devices only at 
this time).  At my last job I used Kace appliances and they were great.  I am 
looking at those this time but thought I'd ask the list for additional 
suggestions.

At my new job we  have System Center Essentials 2007.  It's not so good but it 
is old and I understand that product is EOL.

Looking for:  patch distribution/management, inventorying, reporting, ability 
to create granular groups based on factors like IP, machine type, AD 
memberships, OU location, software deployment, and remote control (not super 
important since we already own a product for this).  Embedded help desk, even 
if basic, would be a bonus.  This place doesn't have one currently.

This would be for about 350 nodes.   Can be appliance, vmware machine, or even 
hosted.  As long as it does what I need.

Thanks,
Tom

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RE: PC/server management

[Tom Miller]

Thanks, folks.  I will be looking at KBoxes again.  I evaluated Landesk a few 
years ago.  It was full of great features but it was too expensive for us.

Tom

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: PC/server management

I just had the Kace rep in my office yesterday afternoon and it seems like a 
pretty comprehensive product.  I am going to check out the Landesk lunch and 
learn later this month as well.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Tom Miller 
mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com>> wrote:
Folks,

Looking for recommendations for pc/server management (Windows devices only at 
this time).  At my last job I used Kace appliances and they were great.  I am 
looking at those this time but thought I'd ask the list for additional 
suggestions.

At my new job we  have System Center Essentials 2007.  It's not so good but it 
is old and I understand that product is EOL.

Looking for:  patch distribution/management, inventorying, reporting, ability 
to create granular groups based on factors like IP, machine type, AD 
memberships, OU location, software deployment, and remote control (not super 
important since we already own a product for this).  Embedded help desk, even 
if basic, would be a bonus.  This place doesn't have one currently.

This would be for about 350 nodes.   Can be appliance, vmware machine, or even 
hosted.  As long as it does what I need.

Thanks,
Tom

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RE: PC/server management

[Tom Miller]

That does not appear to do everything I need.

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: PC/server management

Windows Intune?

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: PC/server management

Folks,

Looking for recommendations for pc/server management (Windows devices only at 
this time).  At my last job I used Kace appliances and they were great.  I am 
looking at those this time but thought I'd ask the list for additional 
suggestions.

At my new job we  have System Center Essentials 2007.  It's not so good but it 
is old and I understand that product is EOL.

Looking for:  patch distribution/management, inventorying, reporting, ability 
to create granular groups based on factors like IP, machine type, AD 
memberships, OU location, software deployment, and remote control (not super 
important since we already own a product for this).  Embedded help desk, even 
if basic, would be a bonus.  This place doesn't have one currently.

This would be for about 350 nodes.   Can be appliance, vmware machine, or even 
hosted.  As long as it does what I need.

Thanks,
Tom

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RE: GPP drive mapping 'reconnect'

[Tom Miller]

I  had that setting enabled back when we started to use GPPs on Windows 7 
devices.  I do not see a need for in here - our network is Windows 7 
workstations.

Recreate (not reconnect, sorry) just deletes the printer/mapping, whatever at 
each processing of the GPP, then recreates it.

From: Elijah Buck [mailto:elijah.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 12:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: GPP drive mapping 'reconnect'

Do you have "Always wait for the network at computer startup and logon" enabled?

The more I read the less I understand about what 'reconnect' does. I'm dense, 
so how does the reconnect option help when a change is coming?

From: Tom Miller mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com>>
Sent: January 14, 2013 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: GPP drive mapping 'reconnect'

The reconnect isn't necessary helpful for remote users - I wasn't clear on 
that.  What I mean is that using GPP is helpful for remote users.  We have many 
VPN users here, so once they connect to the VPN, they can go to Windows 
Explorer to open their files.  No script needed - the drives will be 
disconnected until the VPN is connected.

I usually use reconnect when I have a change coming soon, so I will set that 
and "remove this item when it is no longer applied".  New printers, drive 
changes, etc.

-Original Message-
From: Elijah Buck [mailto:elijah.b...@gmail.com<mailto:elijah.b...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 10:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: GPP drive mapping 'reconnect'

Thanks for the responses. Tom, can you expand on why reconnect is helpful for 
remote users?

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Tom Miller 
mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com>> wrote:
> I've used both.  Reconnect is helpful for our remote users who only connect 
> occasionally.I don't use reconnect for printers.  I find that setting on 
> printers makes the default printer be forgotten.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com<mailto:falc...@gmail.com>]
> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:18 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: GPP drive mapping 'reconnect'
>
> Never ever used reconnect.  I always use a "Replace" policy and it has always 
> worked.
>
> I use GPP in many places for drive mappings and other things.
>
> James.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elijah Buck [mailto:elijah.b...@gmail.com<mailto:elijah.b...@gmail.com>]
> Sent: Saturday, 12 January 2013 5:45 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: GPP drive mapping 'reconnect'
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm working on using Group Policy Preferences for drive mapping, and am a 
> little confused about the reconnect option.
>
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/12221.troub
> leshoo
> ting-the-drive-maps-preference-extension-in-group-policy-replace-mode-
> only-m
> aps-the-drive-every-other-logon.aspx
> is pretty much exactly the scenario I'm curious about (reconnect not set).
> It says:
>
> -
> Expected Result: Drive Z: is mapped to 
> \\CONTOSO-DC\netlogon every time the user logs 
> on to their computer.
>
> Actual Result: Drive Z: is only mapped to 
> \\CONTOSO-DC\netlogon every other time the 
> user logs on.
>
> Note: This difference in when Drive Z is mapped will only be noticeable if 
> either the administrator first deletes all mapped drives at the start of 
> processing Group Policy or the user has changed Drive Z during their previous 
> session.
> -
>
> I am confused about that Note. It seems to imply that the Z drive will be 
> mapped correctly on subsequent logons (assuming no one has changed or deleted 
> Drive Z), even though the drive maps preference extension doesn't apply 
> preferences on every logon (because some logons process GP asynchronously).
>
> Is it the case that if the user does not modify the drive mappings, the drive 
> mapping will be 'correct' on next logon? This implies there is some sort of 
> caching of drive mappings other than the caching that would occur if 
> 'reconnect' were set. Is that correct?
>
> Those of you that use GPP for drive mappings, do you have the 'reconnect'
> option set or not? Why?
>
> Thanks,
> Elijah Buck
>
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RE: GPP drive mapping 'reconnect'

[Tom Miller]

The reconnect isn't necessary helpful for remote users - I wasn't clear on 
that.  What I mean is that using GPP is helpful for remote users.  We have many 
VPN users here, so once they connect to the VPN, they can go to Windows 
Explorer to open their files.  No script needed - the drives will be 
disconnected until the VPN is connected.

I usually use reconnect when I have a change coming soon, so I will set that 
and "remove this item when it is no longer applied".  New printers, drive 
changes, etc.  

-Original Message-
From: Elijah Buck [mailto:elijah.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 10:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: GPP drive mapping 'reconnect'

Thanks for the responses. Tom, can you expand on why reconnect is helpful for 
remote users?

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Tom Miller  wrote:
> I've used both.  Reconnect is helpful for our remote users who only connect 
> occasionally.I don't use reconnect for printers.  I find that setting on 
> printers makes the default printer be forgotten.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:18 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: GPP drive mapping 'reconnect'
>
> Never ever used reconnect.  I always use a "Replace" policy and it has always 
> worked.
>
> I use GPP in many places for drive mappings and other things.
>
> James.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elijah Buck [mailto:elijah.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, 12 January 2013 5:45 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: GPP drive mapping 'reconnect'
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm working on using Group Policy Preferences for drive mapping, and am a 
> little confused about the reconnect option.
>
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/12221.troub
> leshoo 
> ting-the-drive-maps-preference-extension-in-group-policy-replace-mode-
> only-m
> aps-the-drive-every-other-logon.aspx
> is pretty much exactly the scenario I'm curious about (reconnect not set).
> It says:
>
> -
> Expected Result: Drive Z: is mapped to \\CONTOSO-DC\netlogon every time the 
> user logs on to their computer.
>
> Actual Result: Drive Z: is only mapped to \\CONTOSO-DC\netlogon every other 
> time the user logs on.
>
> Note: This difference in when Drive Z is mapped will only be noticeable if 
> either the administrator first deletes all mapped drives at the start of 
> processing Group Policy or the user has changed Drive Z during their previous 
> session.
> -
>
> I am confused about that Note. It seems to imply that the Z drive will be 
> mapped correctly on subsequent logons (assuming no one has changed or deleted 
> Drive Z), even though the drive maps preference extension doesn't apply 
> preferences on every logon (because some logons process GP asynchronously).
>
> Is it the case that if the user does not modify the drive mappings, the drive 
> mapping will be 'correct' on next logon? This implies there is some sort of 
> caching of drive mappings other than the caching that would occur if 
> 'reconnect' were set. Is that correct?
>
> Those of you that use GPP for drive mappings, do you have the 'reconnect'
> option set or not? Why?
>
> Thanks,
> Elijah Buck
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RE: GPP drive mapping 'reconnect'

[Tom Miller]

I've used both.  Reconnect is helpful for our remote users who only connect 
occasionally.I don't use reconnect for printers.  I find that setting on 
printers makes the default printer be forgotten.  

-Original Message-
From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: GPP drive mapping 'reconnect'

Never ever used reconnect.  I always use a "Replace" policy and it has always 
worked.  

I use GPP in many places for drive mappings and other things.

James.

-Original Message-
From: Elijah Buck [mailto:elijah.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 12 January 2013 5:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: GPP drive mapping 'reconnect'

Hello,

I'm working on using Group Policy Preferences for drive mapping, and am a 
little confused about the reconnect option.

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/12221.troubleshoo
ting-the-drive-maps-preference-extension-in-group-policy-replace-mode-only-m
aps-the-drive-every-other-logon.aspx
is pretty much exactly the scenario I'm curious about (reconnect not set).
It says:

-
Expected Result: Drive Z: is mapped to \\CONTOSO-DC\netlogon every time the 
user logs on to their computer.

Actual Result: Drive Z: is only mapped to \\CONTOSO-DC\netlogon every other 
time the user logs on.

Note: This difference in when Drive Z is mapped will only be noticeable if 
either the administrator first deletes all mapped drives at the start of 
processing Group Policy or the user has changed Drive Z during their previous 
session.
-

I am confused about that Note. It seems to imply that the Z drive will be 
mapped correctly on subsequent logons (assuming no one has changed or deleted 
Drive Z), even though the drive maps preference extension doesn't apply 
preferences on every logon (because some logons process GP asynchronously).

Is it the case that if the user does not modify the drive mappings, the drive 
mapping will be 'correct' on next logon? This implies there is some sort of 
caching of drive mappings other than the caching that would occur if 
'reconnect' were set. Is that correct?

Those of you that use GPP for drive mappings, do you have the 'reconnect'
option set or not? Why?

Thanks,
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RE: Cisco ASA question

[Tom Miller]

I had the direction incorrect!  Thanks for the help folks,

Relay only by exemption on the mail servers, though.

From: Patrick Salmon [mailto:psal...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cisco ASA question

Looks right to me, both in sequence and content [1].

- You're allowing SMTP from specific host(s). Correct. Not so much a 'best 
practice'  as a must-do.
- Next, you're denying SMTP from anything else. Also correct.
- Implied, but must exist, is the Deny Any Any at the end. You'd be surprised 
how many people forget that.

An aside: this is a great forum with an abundance of expertise in many areas. 
That said, a google search on Cisco Forums / Cisco Community / Cisco support 
forum will give you a much more focused target audience. Not that you won't get 
great answers here, as you will.

Pat

[1]. CCNP. Also, full disclosure and disclaimer: I am an employee of Cisco 
Systems. Opinions expressed, however, are mine alone and not that of Cisco.
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Tom Miller 
mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com>> wrote:
Hi Folks,

At a new job here.  I have a few Cisco ASA.  One of them, an ASA 5510, seems to 
be not very strict on outbound rules.  I'm new to ASA (came from the Fortinet 
world), so any advice on setting up outbound rules?  In particular we've been 
on spamhaus and I think there is an internal machine sending out smtp messages. 
 Short term solution would be to restrict out smtp to our mail servers only.

On the ASA | Configuration | Access Rules, I created an inside --> outside 
rule.  Traffic from mail server out, smtp, permit.  Other rule has traffic as 
deny.  This does not seem correct, even me being new to ASA.

Suggestions appreciated,
Tom

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RE: Cisco ASA question

[Tom Miller]

Great thanks.  I did that at my last gig.  I'm amazed at the config but am 
working to tighten things.  New to ASA so it's a little slow going.   Apologies 
for my ignorance here.

Under access rules, I see Outside, and those rules are limited and seem correct.

Then I see Inside (incoming) with a few rules, and another Inside (outgoing) 
with a few rules.  What's the difference?

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cisco ASA question

"Short term solution would be to restrict out smtp to our mail servers only."

I think all networks should do that all the time. We do as do most others folks 
that I know.

Basically you should see in order:

Inside to outside allow smpt from your mail server.
Inside to outside deny smtp from any

Cisco reads them in order and stops on the first matching rule.  So in the 
above your email server would get an allow. A desktop would not qualify on that 
first rule so it would move to the second rule and get denied. So if I am 
reading your description right I think your rules are ok.

Send us the rules in order if you want. Feel free to mask the ip addresses if 
you want.

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Cisco ASA question

Hi Folks,

At a new job here.  I have a few Cisco ASA.  One of them, an ASA 5510, seems to 
be not very strict on outbound rules.  I'm new to ASA (came from the Fortinet 
world), so any advice on setting up outbound rules?  In particular we've been 
on spamhaus and I think there is an internal machine sending out smtp messages. 
 Short term solution would be to restrict out smtp to our mail servers only.

On the ASA | Configuration | Access Rules, I created an inside --> outside 
rule.  Traffic from mail server out, smtp, permit.  Other rule has traffic as 
deny.  This does not seem correct, even me being new to ASA.

Suggestions appreciated,
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RE: Shadow copy restore

[Tom Miller]

>From the server, logged in as my admin account.

I was able to restore as the user, though, just fine.

It was the user's home folder.

From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 3:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Shadow copy restore

It's a long shot but are you attempting to restore from the server or from a 
client?  I have seen different behaviour between the two.

James.

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2012 6:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Shadow copy restore

Hi Folks,

I need to perform a folder restore via the shadow copy snapshots.  When I 
attempt to restore the folder, I get an error that I don't have permissions.  
Odd, since I created the volume, am owner, have full accesss, and verified I 
have perms to the system volume information folder.

Suggestions?

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DR planning

[Tom Miller]

Folks,

Next week we are testing two disaster scenarios at a remote site (we pay
the site and they provide servers only for restore/DR - no live
hosting).

We have Exchange 2003 here and a variety for 2008/2003 servers as DCs
and member servers for file and print.

Recommendations for recovery?  This is just a simple test to see what we
can do.  Long-term I'm going to recommend live servers so I have put a
DC and replicate files and Exchange 2010 there.  For now I'll need to be
able to restore some SQL databases for an enterprise system, Exchange
2003, and files for file and print.

Since it's a test and I can't restore servers of the same name and such
on a live network - we have an MPLS link to DR site - I was thinking of
just building a few new servers, add a DC, and install SQL and restore
databases.  What about Exchange 2003?  Is there a way I can restore the
databases but only be able to manually pull mail from them?  Or would it
be better to just build a new Exchange 2003 server and add DR accounts
to it.  It has been a long time since I've worked with Exchange, so your
thoughts are appreciated.

Moving forward, what do you folks do for DR?  I was thinking at the
remote site (always live eventually):  DC, SQL server with replicated
databases (2012 AlwaysOn I guess), server for file and print using DFS
to replicate critical files, another Exchange 2010 server in the current
DAG, and a hub/client access server.

Tom

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RE: Cisco ASA question

[Tom Miller]

Are you using "Radius" or "NT Domain"?

 

From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cisco ASA question

 

Nothing that I know of, just change the IP's to point to your new DC's.
That's all I had to do.  

 

________

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Cisco ASA question

Folks,

 

I have a new job and they use Cisco ASA firewalls here.  I'm new to
Cisco firewalls so I'm still learning.

 

Under Remote Access VPN --> AAA/Local User ---> AAA Server groups, I
have a few Windows 2000 servers that are DCs listed here.  Those are
going to be retired and I need to point this to 2008 R2 servers.  

 

Can anyone tell me which roles/features on a Windows 2008 R2 server I
need to install/configure to be used by the ASA?

 

Thanks,

Tom

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Cisco ASA question

[Tom Miller]

Folks,

 

I have a new job and they use Cisco ASA firewalls here.  I'm new to Cisco 
firewalls so I'm still learning.

 

Under Remote Access VPN --> AAA/Local User ---> AAA Server groups, I have a few 
Windows 2000 servers that are DCs listed here.  Those are going to be retired 
and I need to point this to 2008 R2 servers.  

 

Can anyone tell me which roles/features on a Windows 2008 R2 server I need to 
install/configure to be used by the ASA?

 

Thanks,

Tom


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Re: AppData - to redirect or not to redirect?

[Tom Miller]

I use it.  I'm using Citrix UPM now and it's much faster than traditional 
folder redirection (you are talking about profiles I assume).  For some 
applications we use here, like General Dynamics, a single profile makes 
configuration easier.  

>>> James Rankin  11/13/2012 7:19 AM >>>
Speaking mainly about RDS/XenApp/SBC platforms, I'm wondering what the list's 
general opinion is on using Folder Redirection for AppData? The general feeling 
(from my point of view, anyway) seems to be that it improves logon time, but 
creates a real problem with performance. I was wondering what everyone else's 
opinion is on it? I generally try to use a third-party solution that avoids 
having to make this choice, but I have a couple of clients where I appear to be 
at loggerheads with what other consultants are telling them. All comments would 
be welcome.

Helge Klein did a decent write-up about it here 
http://www.sepago.de/e/helge/2010/05/31/should-appdata-be-redirected-or-left-in-the-user-profile
 which seems to bear out a bit of what I was thinking.

Thanks,



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RE: Instant Messaging replacement

[Tom Miller]

I thought Skype was more video focused?  

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging replacement

 

Skype?  Even Microsoft is moving away from Messenger to Skype.  

 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 1:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Instant Messaging replacement

 

Every few days I have to reinstall it because the database becomes corrupt.  
The biggest issue is that I can set an ldap ou but it won't traverse the 
directory.  There were posts on how to do that but I never could get that to 
work reliably.

On Nov 6, 2012, at 1:37 PM, "Matthew W. Ross"  wrote:

I'm curios to hear what stability problems you were having with 
Openfire. I have not used it for a few years, but it seemed quite stable to me. 
What would go wrong?

 

--Matt Ross


On Nov 6, 2012, at 9:29 AM, "Tom Miller"  wrote:

We currently use OpenFire for the back-end Instant Messaging.  
It is free, but not particularly stable and I spend more time on it than I 
would prefer.

 

I am looking for alternatives.  I'd like something that can run 
on Windows, Andriod, and IOS devices.  Anyone have any suggestions other than 
Lync (I'm already looking at that one).  In-house or hosted, does not matter as 
long as it integrates with AD.

 

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Re: Instant Messaging replacement

[Tom Miller]

Every few days I have to reinstall it because the database becomes corrupt.  
The biggest issue is that I can set an ldap ou but it won't traverse the 
directory.  There were posts on how to do that but I never could get that to 
work reliably.

On Nov 6, 2012, at 1:37 PM, "Matthew W. Ross"  wrote:

> I'm curios to hear what stability problems you were having with Openfire. I 
> have not used it for a few years, but it seemed quite stable to me. What 
> would go wrong?
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> 
> On Nov 6, 2012, at 9:29 AM, "Tom Miller"  wrote:
> 
>> We currently use OpenFire for the back-end Instant Messaging.  It is free, 
>> but not particularly stable and I spend more time on it than I would prefer.
>>  
>> I am looking for alternatives.  I'd like something that can run on Windows, 
>> Andriod, and IOS devices.  Anyone have any suggestions other than Lync (I'm 
>> already looking at that one).  In-house or hosted, does not matter as long 
>> as it integrates with AD.
>>  
>> Thanks.
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RE: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

[Tom Miller]

I finally decided to just log the accounts in via Web Interface, load the app, 
disconnect, then the same with the remainder accounts.  This works fine and we 
just restart the accounts after the servers are rebooted weekly.  This was I 
can reconnect at home as the accounts as needed
 
Thanks for all the suggestions, folks.

>>> Webster  10/1/2012 6:21 PM >>>

Sorry I am buried writing documentation.  You should try the thinlist.  
http://www.msterminalservices.org/pages/thinlist.asp

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com ( http://www.carlwebster.com/ )

 
From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Subject: Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

 
You might have to change the authentication type. Webster will know better. Its 
near midnight here :-)

---Blackberried

From: "Tom Miller"  

Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:53:13 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 

Subject: Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

 

Thanks. How do I do that? It uses AD creds from the user already in XA, so is 
there a way I can force "run as"? 
Tom Miller 
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 

>>> James Rankin  10/1/2012 5:42:59 PM >>>
You could publish the application through Citrix and set it so it needed 
authentication when you log in as an alternative, but you'd still have the 
multiple instances of it on the end client device

On 1 October 2012 22:35, Tom Miller  wrote:
Uummm dunno but I didn't think of that. I will try that but that could get 
messy - lots of screens.

These are regular AD accounts though. 

Tom Miller 
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 

>>> James Rankin  10/1/2012 5:21:19 PM >>>

Can't you manage this with a single RDP session and use Run As A Different User 
for each instance of the app? Or is it internal application user ids we are 
talking as opposed to AD accounts?

On 1 October 2012 22:15, Tom Miller  wrote:



Sorry, it is a complicated system. There are special accounts that have to be 
logged into run specific application components. Once you start the component, 
it runs periodically and I do not need to do anything else. But...there are a 
number of special accounts that are used to run the processes. The vendor 
recommends logging into the server via remote desktop, starting the app, 
disconnecting, login with the next account, start the app, then the same with 
the other accounts (there are 10 or so).

I prefer to avoid having to log into the XA web interface. Can I do this with 
regular remote desktop or do I need to do something else? 
Tom Miller 
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 

>>> Webster  10/1/2012 4:46:10 PM >>>

I am confused also.
 
Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com ( http://www.carlwebster.com/ )
 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Subject: Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

 
I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to do. You want to run a 
particular published app under different user ids? For regular users, or an 
administrator? Does the app require any interaction once you launch it?

On 1 October 2012 21:27, Tom Miller  wrote:

Hi Folks,

 

We run a clinical application via XenApp 6.5.   There is a particular component 
that runs events that are pending that regular user accounts do not run 
(appointment, billing schedules, etc.)  I need to remote desktop to the server, 
load the app under a particular account, disconnect, remote desktop again, 
login as a different user, then load the app again (same app but different 
processes), and this for several more times.  This is all on one server 
designed for this function.  The client portion is a XA 6.5 server.

 

Suggestions for this on XA 6.5?  I know I can have those special accounts use 
the regular XA web interface, then load the app, but simple remote desktop 
would be easier.  I'm having a brain cramp and can't remember how to set this 
up within XA, or even Remote Desktop Services.


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Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

[Tom Miller]

Thanks.  How do I do that?  It uses AD creds from the user already in XA, so is 
there a way I can force "run as"?
Tom Miller
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 

>>> James Rankin  10/1/2012 5:42:59 PM >>>You could 
>>> publish the application through Citrix and set it so it needed
authentication when you log in as an alternative, but you'd still have the
multiple instances of it on the end client device

On 1 October 2012 22:35, Tom Miller  wrote:

> Uummm dunno but I didn't think of that. I will try that but that could get
> messy - lots of screens.
>
> These are regular AD accounts though.
> Tom Miller
> Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
>
> >>> James Rankin  10/1/2012 5:21:19 PM >>>
> Can't you manage this with a single RDP session and use Run As A Different
> User for each instance of the app? Or is it internal application user ids
> we are talking as opposed to AD accounts?
>
> On 1 October 2012 22:15, Tom Miller  wrote:
>
>> Sorry, it is a complicated system. There are special accounts that have
>> to be logged into run specific application components. Once you start the
>> component, it runs periodically and I do not need to do anything else.
>> But...there are a number of special accounts that are used to run the
>> processes. The vendor recommends logging into the server via remote
>> desktop, starting the app, disconnecting, login with the next account,
>> start the app, then the same with the other accounts (there are 10 or so).
>>
>> I prefer to avoid having to log into the XA web interface. Can I do this
>> with regular remote desktop or do I need to do something else?
>> Tom Miller
>> Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
>>
>> >>> Webster  10/1/2012 4:46:10 PM >>>
>>
>> I am confused also.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Carl Webster
>>
>> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>>
>> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
>> *Subject:* Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to do. You want to run a
>> particular published app under different user ids? For regular users, or an
>> administrator? Does the app require any interaction once you launch it?**
>> **
>>
>> On 1 October 2012 21:27, Tom Miller  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>>  
>>
>> We run a clinical application via XenApp 6.5.   There is a particular
>> component that runs events that are pending that regular user accounts do
>> not run (appointment, billing schedules, etc.)  I need to remote desktop to
>> the server, load the app under a particular account, disconnect, remote
>> desktop again, login as a different user, then load the app again (same app
>> but different processes), and this for several more times.  This is all on
>> one server designed for this function.  The client portion is a XA 6.5
>> server.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Suggestions for this on XA 6.5?  I know I can have those special accounts
>> use the regular XA web interface, then load the app, but simple remote
>> desktop would be easier.  I'm having a brain cramp and can't remember how
>> to set this up within XA, or even Remote Desktop Services.
>>
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Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

[Tom Miller]

Uummm dunno but I didn't think of that.  I will try that but that could get 
messy - lots of screens.

These are regular AD accounts though.
Tom Miller
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 

>>> James Rankin  10/1/2012 5:21:19 PM >>>Can't you 
>>> manage this with a single RDP session and use Run As A Different
User for each instance of the app? Or is it internal application user ids
we are talking as opposed to AD accounts?

On 1 October 2012 22:15, Tom Miller  wrote:

> Sorry, it is a complicated system. There are special accounts that have to
> be logged into run specific application components. Once you start the
> component, it runs periodically and I do not need to do anything else.
> But...there are a number of special accounts that are used to run the
> processes. The vendor recommends logging into the server via remote
> desktop, starting the app, disconnecting, login with the next account,
> start the app, then the same with the other accounts (there are 10 or so).
>
> I prefer to avoid having to log into the XA web interface. Can I do this
> with regular remote desktop or do I need to do something else?
> Tom Miller
> Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
>
> >>> Webster  10/1/2012 4:46:10 PM >>>
>
> I am confused also.
>
> ** **
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/>
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Subject:* Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop
>
> ** **
>
> I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to do. You want to run a
> particular published app under different user ids? For regular users, or an
> administrator? Does the app require any interaction once you launch it?***
> *
>
> On 1 October 2012 21:27, Tom Miller  wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
>  
>
> We run a clinical application via XenApp 6.5.   There is a particular
> component that runs events that are pending that regular user accounts do
> not run (appointment, billing schedules, etc.)  I need to remote desktop to
> the server, load the app under a particular account, disconnect, remote
> desktop again, login as a different user, then load the app again (same app
> but different processes), and this for several more times.  This is all on
> one server designed for this function.  The client portion is a XA 6.5
> server.
>
>  
>
> Suggestions for this on XA 6.5?  I know I can have those special accounts
> use the regular XA web interface, then load the app, but simple remote
> desktop would be easier.  I'm having a brain cramp and can't remember how
> to set this up within XA, or even Remote Desktop Services.
>
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Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

[Tom Miller]

Sorry, it is a complicated system.  There are special accounts that have to be 
logged into run specific application components.  Once you start the component, 
it runs periodically and I do not need to do anything else.  But...there are a 
number of special accounts that are used to run the processes.  The vendor 
recommends logging into the server via remote desktop, starting the app, 
disconnecting, login with the next account, start the app, then the same with 
the other accounts (there are 10 or so).

I prefer to avoid having to log into the XA web interface.  Can I do this with 
regular remote desktop or do I need to do something else?
Tom Miller
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 

>>> Webster  10/1/2012 4:46:10 PM >>>I am confused 
>>> also.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Subject: Re: XenApp, Published Desktop, Remote desktop

I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to do. You want to run a 
particular published app under different user ids? For regular users, or an 
administrator? Does the app require any interaction once you launch it?
On 1 October 2012 21:27, Tom Miller 
mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org>> wrote:
Hi Folks,

We run a clinical application via XenApp 6.5.   There is a particular component 
that runs events that are pending that regular user accounts do not run 
(appointment, billing schedules, etc.)  I need to remote desktop to the server, 
load the app under a particular account, disconnect, remote desktop again, 
login as a different user, then load the app again (same app but different 
processes), and this for several more times.  This is all on one server 
designed for this function.  The client portion is a XA 6.5 server.

Suggestions for this on XA 6.5?  I know I can have those special accounts use 
the regular XA web interface, then load the app, but simple remote desktop 
would be easier.  I'm having a brain cramp and can't remember how to set this 
up within XA, or even Remote Desktop Services.

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RE: Only took my 18 months...

[Tom Miller]

Now start working on the PhD.  Should take you a decade or so.

>>> Webster  10/1/2012 10:00 AM >>>

Congrats
 
 

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com ( http://www.carlwebster.com/ )

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Subject: Only took my 18 months...

 
But effective today I get to add “Sr.” to my Systems Engineer job
title. W00t!
David Lum 
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

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Record Skype session?

[Tom Miller]

Hi Folks,
 
My wife is a college professor who wants to record a Skype session between her 
and one of her grad students.  The student is off state, and my wife wants to 
use the recording later in one of her classes.
 
I see a variety of methods to do this.  Anyone have any suggestions for 
something that's pretty easy and easy to play back?
 
Thanks

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Re: File replication over slow WAN Link

[Tom Miller]

If this is Windows how about DFS?  I use it for centralized backups.
Tom Miller
Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 

>>> Shawn Everett  9/28/2012 3:41:46 AM >>>
Hi All,

I'm looking for suggestions on how to replicate a large amount of data 
over a slow WAN link.  Replication would occur during non peak hours 
(after 9PM) and would be a two way replication.

The amount of data to compare would be about 6GB and would be required 
to sync over a <1mb/s wan link.  I can pre-seed the data so only the 
changed files are replicated.

We just need to replicate flat files, nothing more complex.

Thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated.

Shawn

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Re: Citrix XenApp 5.0 issue

[Tom Miller]

Netscaler --> Windows web server --> XenApp on Windows
 
I rebooted all the servers in the farm.  I took at least 10 minutes for each 
server to shut down.  Booting was normal speed.  On some servers there are many 
"unknown" profiles.  I can't delete them in the profiles dialog box, and they 
are not listed in the registry.  I don't know if this is a profile issue but 
it's odd that there are a bunch of unknown profiles on some of the servers.  
 
I'm moving a few of theses servers' (they are all virtual on XenServer) storage 
to the new SAN to see if there is possibly an issue with that.  
 
Tom

>>> James Rankin  9/25/2012 11:46 AM >>>
Are these authenticated via the Web Interface or a plug-in of some sort?

On 25 September 2012 16:09, Tom Miller  wrote:


Yup.

>>> "Rankin, James R"  9/25/2012 10:59 AM >>>

Have you done the dsmaint /recreatelhc stuff?
---Blackberried
From: "Tom Miller"  
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 10:47:52 -0400
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Citrix XenApp 5.0 issue

Hi Folks,
I'm seeing an issue on our older XenApp 5.0 farm: users select an icon via the 
web interface, logon pop-up proceeds as normal, thennothing. But in the 
Access Console I see them as having the application as loaded several times. 
The application however never presents to the user.
Data collectors are good. Recently rebuilt local DB on all the servers and 
rebooted all servers and verified data collector preferences. This started a 
few weeks ago as use of several applications increased. There are enough 
servers to accommodate this though. 
I've never seen this before. We have another XenApp farm, v6.5, and I don't see 
the issues on that system. I'm slowly creating new servers to move apps to the 
new 6.5 farm, but I need the older 5.0 farm to be stable meanwhile.
We called our partner, got in touch with Citrix, and Citrix told us they'd 
research it and get back to us. Doesn't sound like much. 
Suggestions?
Tom


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Re: Citrix XenApp 5.0 issue

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Yup.

>>> "Rankin, James R"  9/25/2012 10:59 AM >>>
Have you done the dsmaint /recreatelhc stuff?
---Blackberried
From: "Tom Miller"  
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 10:47:52 -0400
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Citrix XenApp 5.0 issue

Hi Folks,
 
I'm seeing an issue on our older XenApp 5.0 farm:  users select an icon via the 
web interface, logon pop-up proceeds as normal, thennothing.  But in the 
Access Console I see them as having the application as loaded several times.  
The application however never presents to the user.
 
Data collectors are good.  Recently rebuilt local DB on all the servers and 
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We called our partner, got in touch with Citrix, and Citrix told us they'd 
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Suggestions?
 
Tom
 
 


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Citrix XenApp 5.0 issue

[Tom Miller]

Hi Folks,
 
I'm seeing an issue on our older XenApp 5.0 farm:  users select an icon via the 
web interface, logon pop-up proceeds as normal, thennothing.  But in the 
Access Console I see them as having the application as loaded several times.  
The application however never presents to the user.
 
Data collectors are good.  Recently rebuilt local DB on all the servers and 
rebooted all servers and verified data collector preferences.  This started a 
few weeks ago as use of several applications increased.  There are enough 
servers to accommodate this though.  
 
I've never seen this before.  We have another XenApp farm, v6.5, and I don't 
see the issues on that system.  I'm slowly creating new servers to move apps to 
the new 6.5 farm, but I need the older 5.0 farm to be stable meanwhile.
 
We called our partner, got in touch with Citrix, and Citrix told us they'd 
research it and get back to us.  Doesn't sound like much.  
 
Suggestions?
 
Tom
 
 

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RE: XenApp baffle: Word 2010 keeps opening in repair mode

[Tom Miller]

Yes and yes.  XenApp 6.5.  
 
I think, or I hope, I've narrowed it down to UPM.  What I am seeing
with Word, for some users, is that they attempt to open Word.  UPM
folder gets created (if it's not there in the share already).  Word
never loads.  User clicks Word again and then they get the failed to
load message.   So this is UPM or maybe a setting in Word I can apply in
the Office 2010 GPO settings to prevent this.  I'm not sure yet.  Still
researching.  But now I can tell my Citrix partner that he needs to look
at UPM.  I have just basic settings configured (nothing fancy about this
shop).  
 
Only occurs for some users, but is an issue on all servers.  Never an
issue with other Office Apps.  

>>> Webster  9/19/2012 11:44 AM >>>

Was the package installed as an admin?  Does the package have the “run
all from my computer” option selected for all Office items?

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
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From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Subject: Re: XenApp baffle: Word 2010 keeps opening in repair mode

 
This is still an issue for some users.  I have not yet tracked it down
to the UPM profile folder, online plugin version, or something else. 
And sometimes a user cannot get into Word, sometimes fine.  

 

I just hung up from my Citrix partner.  He told me this is "definitely"
an issue of installation on the Citrix servers.  I don't buy that.  On
10 servers?  It's the same packaged install I used for my other XenApp
farm and never had this issue in the old farm.  And this only happens
with Word.  And the HMLM\...\Resiliency key which sometimes triggers the
safe mode doesn't exist on any of the servers.

 

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Re: XenApp baffle: Word 2010 keeps opening in repair mode

[Tom Miller]

This is still an issue for some users.  I have not yet tracked it down
to the UPM profile folder, online plugin version, or something else. 
And sometimes a user cannot get into Word, sometimes fine.  
 
I just hung up from my Citrix partner.  He told me this is "definitely"
an issue of installation on the Citrix servers.  I don't buy that.  On
10 servers?  It's the same packaged install I used for my other XenApp
farm and never had this issue in the old farm.  And this only happens
with Word.  And the HMLM\...\Resiliency key which sometimes triggers the
safe mode doesn't exist on any of the servers.
 
If I discover anything useful I'll post it.  

>>> "Rankin, James R"  9/17/2012 3:14 PM >>>
UPM is pretty good considering it is bundled with XenApp - its easy to
deploy and cuts out a lot of the roaming profile ugliness. But if you
want precision control of user state virtualization, AppSense EM is very
good. The latest version even allows users a self-service portal to
restore their profiles to a previous working state, which is a very
handy service to offer. If you want any more info feel free to ping me a
message offline, I don't work for AppSense so I will happily tell you
what's good and what's not from an independent point of view.

Cheers,


JR
---Blackberried
From: "Tom Miller"  
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:56:53 -0400
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"

Subject: RE: XenApp baffle: Word 2010 keeps opening in repair mode

Thank you Webster and James for your advice.  UPM is at least much
easier to use than roaming profiles, which are still in use on an older
XenApp 5.5 system.  I'll take a look at Appsense.  

>>> Webster  9/17/2012 11:31 AM >>>

Sorry for the delayed response.  The US government which granted me a
US Passport and a Federal Security Clearance decided I was now of
“unknown origin”!  I had to go to my local Social Security office to
prove I was USA bred and born.  Weird.
Anyways, James is correct in his assessment.  I would say that 99.999%
of these issues are caused by something being screwed up in the user’s
profile.  Citrix profile best practice document lists your profiles
options as:
1.   Mandatory
2.   Roaming
3.   UPM
4.   3rd-party
In my consultant role, I never have to deal with pricing so I don’t
know the costs of any Citrix or AppSense license.  I have heard that if
you buy the full AppSense suite the retail license cost is $95/user.  I
have heard it is MUCH cheaper if you buy just the EM part.  I have also
been told that RES is now headed in the direction of automation and not
so much profile mgmt.  But then again, I am a consultant – what do I
know? J

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com ( http://www.carlwebster.com/ )

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Subject: XenApp baffle: Word 2010 keeps opening in repair mode

 
For you XenApp folks...

 

I have a XenApp 6.5 farm that has issues with MS Word 2010.  For some
reason, for many users, it keeps prompting them with "Word failed to
start correctly last time...do you want to start word in safe mode?"

 

Of course they can't start Word in safe mode, this being Terminal
Server/XenApp.  

 

Any solutions or suggestions for this issue?  This if Office 2010
Standard and the other Office apps run fine.

 

I use UPM to manage user profiles on a remote share, should that
matter.  

 
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Re: Variables in AD group policy preferences

[Tom Miller]

I think I need to add them to the PC's variables first - I can do that via GPP 
as well.  Using the SET command doesn't show them, so I''ll try that first.  

>>> "Rankin, James R"  9/18/2012 3:37 PM >>>
Daft question...do those variables resolve on the clients? If they are XP, do 
they have the Group Policy Client Side Extensions installed?
---Blackberried
From: "Tom Miller"  
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:23:51 -0400
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Variables in AD group policy preferences

I am trying to change from GPP items from directories like c:\windows\system32 
to %SystemDir%.  I push a number of icons to staff PCs, and use those icons for 
various desktop links.  It works fine when I use the full path for destination. 
 It never works when I use variables.
 
I also have desktop icons  that used to point to c:\program files\microsoft 
officeexcel.exe.  Works fine,  When I change it to %ProgramDir%\microsoft 
office..\ecxel.exe it never works.
 
Am I missing something?
 
Thanks,
Tom


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Variables in AD group policy preferences

[Tom Miller]

I am trying to change from GPP items from directories like c:\windows\system32 
to %SystemDir%.  I push a number of icons to staff PCs, and use those icons for 
various desktop links.  It works fine when I use the full path for destination. 
 It never works when I use variables.
 
I also have desktop icons  that used to point to c:\program files\microsoft 
officeexcel.exe.  Works fine,  When I change it to %ProgramDir%\microsoft 
office..\ecxel.exe it never works.
 
Am I missing something?
 
Thanks,
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RE: XenApp baffle: Word 2010 keeps opening in repair mode

[Tom Miller]

Thank you Webster and James for your advice.  UPM is at least much
easier to use than roaming profiles, which are still in use on an older
XenApp 5.5 system.  I'll take a look at Appsense.  

>>> Webster  9/17/2012 11:31 AM >>>

Sorry for the delayed response.  The US government which granted me a
US Passport and a Federal Security Clearance decided I was now of
“unknown origin”!  I had to go to my local Social Security office to
prove I was USA bred and born.  Weird.
Anyways, James is correct in his assessment.  I would say that 99.999%
of these issues are caused by something being screwed up in the user’s
profile.  Citrix profile best practice document lists your profiles
options as:
1.   Mandatory
2.   Roaming
3.   UPM
4.   3rd-party
In my consultant role, I never have to deal with pricing so I don’t
know the costs of any Citrix or AppSense license.  I have heard that if
you buy the full AppSense suite the retail license cost is $95/user.  I
have heard it is MUCH cheaper if you buy just the EM part.  I have also
been told that RES is now headed in the direction of automation and not
so much profile mgmt.  But then again, I am a consultant – what do I
know? J

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com ( http://www.carlwebster.com/ )

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Subject: XenApp baffle: Word 2010 keeps opening in repair mode

 
For you XenApp folks...

 

I have a XenApp 6.5 farm that has issues with MS Word 2010.  For some
reason, for many users, it keeps prompting them with "Word failed to
start correctly last time...do you want to start word in safe mode?"

 

Of course they can't start Word in safe mode, this being Terminal
Server/XenApp.  

 

Any solutions or suggestions for this issue?  This if Office 2010
Standard and the other Office apps run fine.

 

I use UPM to manage user profiles on a remote share, should that
matter.  

 
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Re: XenApp baffle: Word 2010 keeps opening in repair mode

[Tom Miller]

Should I make the check out to "James' slush fund"?  
 
We have about 1,000 concurrent users.  Is that big enough to consider AppSense 
or REs?

>>> James Rankin  9/17/2012 10:09 AM >>>
That was me being half joking.but AppSense and RES are two of the market 
leaders in true user state virtualization. However - they have a cost 
associated with them that makes UPM more palatable to a lot of enterprises. It 
all depends how much you want to truly decouple your users from their device/OS 
and how much pain you have around profile issues.

As far as UPM goes, it's not a bad tool for free really, much better than 
standard user profiles. It's just in situations like this removing the errant 
part of the Registry/filesystem without wasting the whole profile is tricky 
(although not impossible). That's one of the areas where the likes of AppSense 
are much stronger.

Cheers,



JR

On 17 September 2012 15:02, Tom Miller  wrote:


Funny I just deleted the UPM folder for that user and it works. 
Any suggestions on alternative tools? 

>>> James Rankin  9/17/2012 9:52 AM >>>

Get rid of the user profile or rename it first, see if that clears it up.

You might want to invest in a better tool for profile management :-)

On 17 September 2012 14:46, Tom Miller  wrote:


For you XenApp folks...
I have a XenApp 6.5 farm that has issues with MS Word 2010. For some reason, 
for many users, it keeps prompting them with "Word failed to start correctly 
last time...do you want to start word in safe mode?"
Of course they can't start Word in safe mode, this being Terminal 
Server/XenApp. 
Any solutions or suggestions for this issue? This if Office 2010 Standard and 
the other Office apps run fine.
I use UPM to manage user profiles on a remote share, should that matter. 


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Re: XenApp baffle: Word 2010 keeps opening in repair mode

[Tom Miller]

Funny I just deleted the UPM folder for that user and it works.  
 
Any suggestions on alternative tools?  

>>> James Rankin  9/17/2012 9:52 AM >>>
Get rid of the user profile or rename it first, see if that clears it up.

You might want to invest in a better tool for profile management :-)

On 17 September 2012 14:46, Tom Miller  wrote:


For you XenApp folks...
I have a XenApp 6.5 farm that has issues with MS Word 2010. For some reason, 
for many users, it keeps prompting them with "Word failed to start correctly 
last time...do you want to start word in safe mode?"
Of course they can't start Word in safe mode, this being Terminal 
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Any solutions or suggestions for this issue? This if Office 2010 Standard and 
the other Office apps run fine.
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XenApp baffle: Word 2010 keeps opening in repair mode

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For you XenApp folks...
 
I have a XenApp 6.5 farm that has issues with MS Word 2010.  For some reason, 
for many users, it keeps prompting them with "Word failed to start correctly 
last time...do you want to start word in safe mode?"
 
Of course they can't start Word in safe mode, this being Terminal 
Server/XenApp.  
 
Any solutions or suggestions for this issue?  This if Office 2010 Standard and 
the other Office apps run fine.
 
I use UPM to manage user profiles on a remote share, should that matter.  

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RE: KMS at non-server sites?

[Tom Miller]

These use the DNS servers of the broadband provider.  But I can try the hosts 
idea and that should route.
 
Thanks guys!

>>> "Senter, John"  9/17/2012 9:08 AM >>>

So these systems are members of a workgroup?  What DNS do you have them pointed 
to, for corporate systems?  If you have them pointing to an external DNS, I 
would suggest using a MAK license.  You do not want to put your KMS server 
external and place entries in the external facing DNS server, because others 
could use it to validate licenses.  If the systems are connection to the 
internal corporate DNS, then you only have to set their FQDN to the same as the 
domain so they query the KMS service records correctly.
 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 8:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: KMS at non-server sites?

 

Hi Folks,

 

I have a number of sites with 2-5 PCs/laptops.  The devices were originally 
imaged and used our internal KMS server.  They are beginning to fail to 
check-in to the licensing server.

 

These sites are all connected via a VPN appliance (SOHO firewall to corp 
firewall).   The only traffic traversed the VPN is from the copier, for 
automatic notifications and messages to the SMTP server here.  

 

These remote machines are not in the domain.  Is there a best practice for 
activation renewal?  Modify local host file?  Public DNS entry for the KMS 
server?  Convert to MAK?  I see a number of suggestions on the web and am 
looking for what works for you.

 

Thanks,

Tom

 
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KMS at non-server sites?

[Tom Miller]

Hi Folks,
 
I have a number of sites with 2-5 PCs/laptops.  The devices were originally 
imaged and used our internal KMS server.  They are beginning to fail to 
check-in to the licensing server.
 
These sites are all connected via a VPN appliance (SOHO firewall to corp 
firewall).   The only traffic traversed the VPN is from the copier, for 
automatic notifications and messages to the SMTP server here.  
 
These remote machines are not in the domain.  Is there a best practice for 
activation renewal?  Modify local host file?  Public DNS entry for the KMS 
server?  Convert to MAK?  I see a number of suggestions on the web and am 
looking for what works for you.
 
Thanks,
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Re: Deploying Printers in Group Policy not working for non-admins

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I always deploy printers to users via Users --> GPO Preferences.   I never 
tried your method, but user assignments work well here.  

>>> "Matthew W. Ross"  8/30/2012 6:01 PM >>>
Good Afternoon.

I'm deploying printers using Group Policy. We have Windows Server 20008 R2 
Domain controllers and Windows 7 desktops. I have a new lab that I wanted to 
deploy the network printers. In this one lab, for some reason, Administrators 
see the printers. Non-admins do not.

I am using the Print Management GUI to deploy the printers. I have them 
deployed via a Group Policy that is assigned to all computers in an OU, not 
users. The printers are being setup as TCP/IP printers and the drivers are 
being distributed by the print server.

Now... why is this working in all of my labs that I have setup but this one? 
And why only Admins? Has anybody else run into this problem?


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Re: How to maintain Adobe and Java updates

[Tom Miller]

KBox.  Besides regular Windows security patches, updates all Adobe products, 
JAVA, and Sophos and number of other vendor defs.  Very easy to use, but 
perhaps overkill since kbox is complete system management.

>>> Stefan Jafs  8/23/2012 2:39 PM >>>

I just got Sophos 10 up and running with about 80% of my clients moved over 
from ESET, just checked Patch Assessment yesterday, not a pretty sight! 1/3 of 
my machines need some kind of Adobe update and about half Java updates.

How to you guys manage updates on Java and Adobe Applications?

BTW aout 250 PC's

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Short term wireless needed

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Sorry if this was recently discussed.  I thought it was but can't find it when 
I search archives.
I need a few WAPs in bridge mode for one of my buildings.  This is temporary 
since I have enterprise wireless equipment on order for our campus, but won't 
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Re: File/Folder Permission

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>>> James Rankin  07/12/12 08:12 >>>

Give him List permissions on A B and C and then Read or Modify to D as
necessary.

On 12 July 2012 13:05, Haritwal, Dhiraj  wrote:

> But Ben There are multiple folders inside the root folder. Ex root
> folder is A --> B --> C -->D
>
> Now the shared folder is "A" which is root folder & I want to give
> access of folder "D" to a user who doesn't have root folder access "A".
> is it possible. Will he able to access that child folder.
>
>
> Dhiraj
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 17:17
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> Subject: Re: File/Folder Permission
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> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Haritwal, Dhiraj
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Re: File/Folder Permission

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>>> "Haritwal, Dhiraj"  07/12/12 06:48 >>>

Hi,

 

Can we set sharing/security permissions only on a child file/folder
without giving its parent folder permissions.

 

 

Regards,

 

Dhiraj

 

 

 

 



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Re: MS Updates Issues?

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>>> Richard Stovall  07/11/12 22:31 >>>

Who is Tom, and what are y'all talking about?  I've deaned this entire
thread until now.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> People really need to learn how to Dean.
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:05 PM, William Robbins wrote:
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>> Yeah...we thought you were on vacation with Tom.  Who I hear will be back
>> on the 18th.
>> :-P
>>
>> - Will
>> On Jul 11, 2012 3:48 PM, "Ben Scott"  wrote:
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>>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Jonathan Link 
>>> wrote:
>>> >> Linky! You’re alive!
>>> >
>>> > Yes, I survived the derecho. :-)
>>>
>>>   Good to hear it.  We were all starting to worry.
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>>>   Now keep posting so we can get back to abusing you.  ;-)
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Re: MS Updates Issues?

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>>> William Robbins  07/11/12 22:05 >>>

Yeah...we thought you were on vacation with Tom.  Who I hear will be back
on the 18th.
:-P

- Will
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RE: Lync client doesn't work over DA?

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>>> "Michael B. Smith"  07/11/12 18:22 >>>

You might get better results posting this in the Exchange group. StevieG, 
SimonB, and a couple of others who know lots more about Lync than I do hang out 
there.

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 5:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Lync client doesn't work over DA?

I have little knowledge of Lync, but we have a Lync installation in house (no 
edge server or connection yet), and I'm noticing that the Lync client doesn't 
work over the DA tunnels..

This link says it doesn't work
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/ocsclients/thread/6e60f10e-01e8-4cb4-afe9-7ed77fef6a7c/

And while this seems to say something similar, what the author seems to be 
doing is setting up an exception for name resolution to reach an external/edge 
Lync connection.
http://lyncforum.blogspot.com/2012/03/configure-uag-direct-access-for-lync.html

Ditto this:
http://refraction.co.uk/blog/2012/01/16/directaccess-and-ocs-lync-edge-services/


Am I reading this correctly?


That being said, UAG can publish Lync 2010, though I don't know how useful that 
would be for us, as it doesn’t seem to apply to IM, though I could be mistaken:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/ben/archive/2012/02/13/lync-publishing-on-uag.aspx

Has anyone here published Lync through UAG, and can tell me if that works, 
especially with the IM - because that's all we're really using it for at the 
moment.


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Re: Lync client doesn't work over DA?

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>>> Kurt Buff  07/11/12 17:51 >>>

I have little knowledge of Lync, but we have a Lync installation in
house (no edge server or connection yet), and I'm noticing that the
Lync client doesn't work over the DA tunnels..

This link says it doesn't work
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/ocsclients/thread/6e60f10e-01e8-4cb4-afe9-7ed77fef6a7c/

And while this seems to say something similar, what the author seems
to be doing is setting up an exception for name resolution to reach an
external/edge Lync connection.
http://lyncforum.blogspot.com/2012/03/configure-uag-direct-access-for-lync.html

Ditto this:
http://refraction.co.uk/blog/2012/01/16/directaccess-and-ocs-lync-edge-services/


Am I reading this correctly?


That being said, UAG can publish Lync 2010, though I don't know how
useful that would be for us, as it doesn’t seem to apply to IM, though
I could be mistaken:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/ben/archive/2012/02/13/lync-publishing-on-uag.aspx

Has anyone here published Lync through UAG, and can tell me if that
works, especially with the IM - because that's all we're really using
it for at the moment.


Kurt

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Re: MS Updates Issues?

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>>> Kevin Lundy  07/11/12 15:56 >>>

Yes, last March, and last August at least.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:

> Tom has done this before, if I remember correctly...he likes to annoy
> others.
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Overly, Gregg  wrote:
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>> Can we kill this auto-reply?
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>> -Original Message-
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>> Subject: RE: MS Updates Issues?
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>> >>> Richard McClary  07/11/12 14:44 >>>
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>> By Wednesday July 18th, he may not have access to this forum, either...
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>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:28 PM
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>> Subject: Re: MS Updates Issues?
>>
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>> >>> joe user  07/11/12 15:24 >>>
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>> How long will it take before we get someone to wake up and kick these
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>>
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Re: MS Updates Issues?

[Tom Miller]

I am currently out of the office.  I will return on Wednesday July 18th.  If 
you require immediate technical assistance, please contact the I.T. Help Desk 
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>>> Jonathan Link  07/11/12 15:51 >>>

Didn't seem particularly tawdry to me...

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:

> I am currently not at my computer keyboard and won't justify a response to
> this tawdry attack!  LOL
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM, John Cook  wrote:
>
>>  Is he Canadian ? ;-) 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 11, 2012 3:02 PM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: MS Updates Issues?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Tom has done this before, if I remember correctly...he likes to annoy
>> others.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Overly, Gregg  wrote:
>> 
>>
>> Can we kill this auto-reply?
>>
>> Gregg Overly
>> Technology Resources
>> 1.512.245.6861
>> Texas State University - San Marcos
>> gr...@txstate.edu
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:49 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> Subject: RE: MS Updates Issues?
>>
>> I am currently out of the office.  I will return on Wednesday July 18th.
>>  If you require immediate technical assistance, please contact the I.T.
>> Help Desk at 788-0911 or helpd...@hnncsb.org.
>>
>> I will not have acces to e-mail during this time.  I will respond to your
>> messages upon my return.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >>> Richard McClary  07/11/12 14:44 >>>
>>
>> By Wednesday July 18th, he may not have access to this forum, either...
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:28 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: MS Updates Issues?
>>
>> I am currently out of the office.  I will return on Wednesday July 18th.
>>  If you require immediate technical assistance, please contact the I.T.
>> Help Desk at 788-0911 or helpd...@hnncsb.org.
>>
>> I will not have acces to e-mail during this time.  I will respond to your
>> messages upon my return.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >>> joe user  07/11/12 15:24 >>>
>>
>> How long will it take before we get someone to wake up and kick these
>> users that can't properly configure OOO messages? Hmmm?
>>
>> Computerz r triky & hard!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/11/2012 12:17 PM, Tom Miller wrote:
>> > I am currently out of the office.  I will return on Wednesday July
>> 18th.  If you require immediate technical assistance, please contact the
>> I.T. Help Desk at 788-0911 or helpd...@hnncsb.org.
>> >
>> > I will not have acces to e-mail during this time.  I will respond to
>> your messages upon my return.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>   joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
>>
>> "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
>>
>>
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RE: MS Updates Issues?

[Tom Miller]

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>>> John Cook  07/11/12 15:13 >>>

Is he Canadian ? ;-)

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 3:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MS Updates Issues?

Tom has done this before, if I remember correctly...he likes to annoy others.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Overly, Gregg 
mailto:gr...@txstate.edu>> wrote:
Can we kill this auto-reply?

Gregg Overly
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gr...@txstate.edu<mailto:gr...@txstate.edu>


-----Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS Updates Issues?

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>>> Richard McClary 
>>> mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org>> 07/11/12 
>>> 14:44 >>>

By Wednesday July 18th, he may not have access to this forum, either...

-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org<mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org>]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MS Updates Issues?

I am currently out of the office.  I will return on Wednesday July 18th.  If 
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>>> joe user mailto:joeu...@chronic.org>> 07/11/12 15:24 
>>> >>>

How long will it take before we get someone to wake up and kick these users 
that can't properly configure OOO messages? Hmmm?

Computerz r triky & hard!



On 7/11/2012 12:17 PM, Tom Miller wrote:
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> you require immediate technical assistance, please contact the I.T. Help Desk 
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>
> I will not have acces to e-mail during this time.  I will respond to your 
> messages upon my return.


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Re: MS Updates Issues?

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>>> Patrick Salmon  07/11/12 15:10 >>>

Sheesh. You'd think that if Donald is indeed OOF he'd at least have the
courtesy to set an OOF notification to all and sundry. ;-)

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Overly, Gregg  wrote:
> > Can we kill this auto-reply?
>
>   I've mailed Donald Bittenbender at GFI; last I knew he was the list
> admin.
>
>   Hopefully he's not on vacation too.  ;-)
>
> -- Ben
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Re: MS Updates Issues?

[Tom Miller]

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>>> Steve Ens  07/11/12 15:02 >>>

Tom has done this before, if I remember correctly...he likes to annoy
others.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Overly, Gregg  wrote:

> Can we kill this auto-reply?
>
> Gregg Overly
> Technology Resources
> 1.512.245.6861
> Texas State University - San Marcos
> gr...@txstate.edu
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:49 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: MS Updates Issues?
>
> I am currently out of the office.  I will return on Wednesday July 18th.
>  If you require immediate technical assistance, please contact the I.T.
> Help Desk at 788-0911 or helpd...@hnncsb.org.
>
> I will not have acces to e-mail during this time.  I will respond to your
> messages upon my return.
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> Richard McClary  07/11/12 14:44 >>>
>
> By Wednesday July 18th, he may not have access to this forum, either...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:28 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: MS Updates Issues?
>
> I am currently out of the office.  I will return on Wednesday July 18th.
>  If you require immediate technical assistance, please contact the I.T.
> Help Desk at 788-0911 or helpd...@hnncsb.org.
>
> I will not have acces to e-mail during this time.  I will respond to your
> messages upon my return.
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> joe user  07/11/12 15:24 >>>
>
> How long will it take before we get someone to wake up and kick these
> users that can't properly configure OOO messages? Hmmm?
>
> Computerz r triky & hard!
>
>
>
> On 7/11/2012 12:17 PM, Tom Miller wrote:
> > I am currently out of the office.  I will return on Wednesday July 18th.
>  If you require immediate technical assistance, please contact the I.T.
> Help Desk at 788-0911 or helpd...@hnncsb.org.
> >
> > I will not have acces to e-mail during this time.  I will respond to
> your messages upon my return.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>   joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
>
> "...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."
>
>
>
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Re: MS Updates Issues?

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>>> Ben Scott  07/11/12 15:00 >>>

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Overly, Gregg  wrote:
> Can we kill this auto-reply?

  I've mailed Donald Bittenbender at GFI; last I knew he was the list admin.

  Hopefully he's not on vacation too.  ;-)

-- Ben

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>>> "Overly, Gregg"  07/11/12 14:52 >>>

Can we kill this auto-reply?

Gregg Overly
Technology Resources
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Texas State University - San Marcos
gr...@txstate.edu


-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS Updates Issues?

I am currently out of the office.  I will return on Wednesday July 18th.  If 
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>>> Richard McClary  07/11/12 14:44 >>>

By Wednesday July 18th, he may not have access to this forum, either...

-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MS Updates Issues?

I am currently out of the office.  I will return on Wednesday July 18th.  If 
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>>> joe user  07/11/12 15:24 >>>

How long will it take before we get someone to wake up and kick these users 
that can't properly configure OOO messages? Hmmm?

Computerz r triky & hard!



On 7/11/2012 12:17 PM, Tom Miller wrote:
> I am currently out of the office.  I will return on Wednesday July 18th.  If 
> you require immediate technical assistance, please contact the I.T. Help Desk 
> at 788-0911 or helpd...@hnncsb.org.
>
> I will not have acces to e-mail during this time.  I will respond to your 
> messages upon my return.


--
Regards,
  joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."



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or sen

RE: MS Updates Issues?

[Tom Miller]

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>>> Richard McClary  07/11/12 14:44 >>>

By Wednesday July 18th, he may not have access to this forum, either...

-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: MS Updates Issues?

I am currently out of the office.  I will return on Wednesday July 18th.  If 
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>>> joe user  07/11/12 15:24 >>>

How long will it take before we get someone to wake up and kick these 
users that can't properly configure OOO messages? Hmmm?

Computerz r triky & hard!



On 7/11/2012 12:17 PM, Tom Miller wrote:
> I am currently out of the office.  I will return on Wednesday July 18th.  If 
> you require immediate technical assistance, please contact the I.T. Help Desk 
> at 788-0911 or helpd...@hnncsb.org.
>
> I will not have acces to e-mail during this time.  I will respond to your 
> messages upon my return.


-- 
Regards,
  joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

"...now these points of data make a beautiful line..."



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>>> joe user  07/11/12 15:24 >>>

How long will it take before we get someone to wake up and kick these 
users that can't properly configure OOO messages? Hmmm?

Computerz r triky & hard!



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>>> Troy Adkins  07/11/12 14:02 >>>

My office machine (Win7 Pro 64-bit) did the same as Don's.  After rebooting and 
"Applying Registry Changes", logged on and it's been working fine.



We still have a few XP boxes, but haven't gotten any calls on problems with 
those.



Troy Adkins

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Virginia House of Delegates

General Assembly Bldg. Room 824

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From: Guyer, Don [dgu...@che.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MS Updates Issues?

My home machine (W7 Ent 64-bit) installed 12 updates last night. Took about 
20-30 minutes, rebooted once, performed “Applying Registry Changes” prior to 
the logon screen coming up, rebooted again and then came up normal.

Used it for about an hour after that and no apparent issues.

Regards,

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology
Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
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From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
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Subject: MS Updates Issues?

We're experiencing problems with out 10% of our client machines following the 
recent spate of updates.  Machines hang after log on, MS Office apps stall, 
etc.  Haven't been able to narrow the problem down to a specific update, 
though.  Making a successful Safe Mode log on and then a restart seems to get 
things going again.

Anyone else have similar problems today?


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>>> "Guyer, Don"  07/11/12 13:51 >>>

My home machine (W7 Ent 64-bit) installed 12 updates last night. Took about 
20-30 minutes, rebooted once, performed "Applying Registry Changes" prior to 
the logon screen coming up, rebooted again and then came up normal.

Used it for about an hour after that and no apparent issues.

Regards,

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology
Enterprise Directory & Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
email: dgu...@che.org
Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440
For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MS Updates Issues?

We're experiencing problems with out 10% of our client machines following the 
recent spate of updates.  Machines hang after log on, MS Office apps stall, 
etc.  Haven't been able to narrow the problem down to a specific update, 
though.  Making a successful Safe Mode log on and then a restart seems to get 
things going again.

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>>> "Ziots, Edward"  07/11/12 13:47 >>>

Nothing yet, on my patching but working stuff server side

 

Z

 

Edward Ziots

CISSP, Security +, Network +

Security Engineer

Lifespan Organization

ezi...@lifespan.org

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MS Updates Issues?

 

We're experiencing problems with out 10% of our client machines
following the recent spate of updates.  Machines hang after log on, MS
Office apps stall, etc.  Haven't been able to narrow the problem down to
a specific update, though.  Making a successful Safe Mode log on and
then a restart seems to get things going again.

 

Anyone else have similar problems today?


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>>> Roger Wright  07/11/12 12:45 >>>

We're experiencing problems with out 10% of our client machines following
the recent spate of updates.  Machines hang after log on, MS Office apps
stall, etc.  Haven't been able to narrow the problem down to a specific
update, though.  Making a successful Safe Mode log on and then a restart
seems to get things going again.

Anyone else have similar problems today?


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Re: OT: recommendations for Bluetooth stereo headset that multi-pairs and is not an earbud?

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>>> Michael Leone  07/11/12 11:37 >>>

Thanks everyone for the responses. From the reviews, I'm thinking of
the Motorola S305s, or maybe on of the LG HBS models. I think I will
see if I can pick one up at a Best Buy - easier to return than buying
online, in case I am still dissatisfied.

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:
> I have a Motorolla S9 (precursor to the S10).  It works on multiple devices
> (Windows Phone, Home Phone, Computer).  Not thrilled with stabby things in
> ear but comfortable enough for an hour workout or a bit longer at work.
>
> My wife has
> http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-S305-Bluetooth-Headset-Microphone/dp/B002BH3I9U/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1341943983&sr=1-1&keywords=motorolla+bluetooth+stereo+headset
> Which she uses on her Windows Phone and the Home Phone.  She likes it.
> Beyond that no other feedback as I don't use em.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:06 AM, William Robbins 
> wrote:
>>
>> I've had these for ~6 months and like them.  Music quality is good, and
>> I've had no complaints on call quality.  It does multi-point also.
>>
>> http://amzn.to/PN3Slw
>>
>>  - Will
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Michael Leone  wrote:
>>>
>>> Lot of conditions, I know. :-) But I'm looking for a *stereo* BT
>>> headset, that I can pair with both my Android phone and my iPad2.
>>> (most of the time I will be listening to music through it, but if a
>>> call comes in on the Android phone, I want to be able to take it
>>> directly. I've read reviews of many, but they either don't mention
>>> whether the headset will pair with more than one device (obviously not
>>> at the same time :-) without deleting the pairing on one device, or
>>> say that it will only pair with one device. To narrow it down even
>>> further, I dislike earbuds, and so would prefer over-the-ear style
>>> (altho I will take earbuds, if that is all that meets the 2 important
>>> requirements (stereo, and multi-pairing).
>>>
>>> Thanks, and sorry for the silly questions. I have a friend who really
>>> likes a Jaybird model with his Iphone ... but it's earbuds. Another
>>> really likes his Motorola S10 .. again, earbuds (and supposedly, not
>>> good sound).
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RE: ipPhone attribute displayed in Outlook 2010

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>>> David Lum  07/11/12 09:18 >>>

Ok I feel dumb - I tried many variations but not my exact subject line - I only 
feel a little dumb :)

Excellent article and just what we want...too bad our Exchange is outsourced so 
we have no access/control of Exchange :(

From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ipPhone attribute displayed in Outlook 2010

I copy/pasted your subject and the first article was "Customizing the Outlook 
Address Book".

Seemed like it was right what you needed :-]

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ipPhone attribute displayed in Outlook 2010

All the crap I saw was about the Apple iPhone..

From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 2:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ipPhone attribute displayed in Outlook 2010

It's as easy as 1-2-3


1.   Copy your subject verbatim and paste it into your web browser's 
address bar.

2.   Submit it to the googleplex

3.   Read the first article the googleplex shows you and follow the 
directions therein

:)

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ipPhone attribute displayed in Outlook 2010

Is it possible to map the ipPhone field to something that displays in Outlook 
2010 when using Exchange?
David Lum
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Re: US jobs market

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Agreed with Webster.  Lots of jobs for Citrix, virtualization, and storage 
here.  There are a number of Citrix partners in my area, and they have plenty 
of work (I use a local one for occasional assistance with planning and 
implementation).  Smaller shops like mine (1,000 employees and I'm the engineer 
for everything) lean on those sort of partners for assistance where I don't 
have enough time I wish I had for Citrix.  
 
On the other hand I don't see many "general" IT jobs about, at least around 
here.  My former boss resigned and it took him months to find something.  
 
Go for it and best wishes.

>>> "Rankin, James R"  7/5/2012 9:44 PM >>>
I'm waiting to hear from sister-in-law about all the relevant boxes we need to 
tick. I'm sure I will find out pretty soon!

---Blackberried

-Original Message-
From: Webster 
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 01:36:10 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: US jobs market

You have two VERY hot skills: Citrix and AppSense.   I seriously doubt you will 
have any trouble finding contract work on this side of the pond.

Won't you need a sponsor to come over?


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Subject: OT: US jobs market
> 
> On another totally OT note...there's some talk in our household about
> moving to the US because my sister-in-law lives there (NY area). Just
> wondering what the US IT jobs market is like at the moment (probably
> mainly contract work) to see if it is worth us giving this some serious
> thought. I am utterly disenchanted with the UK at the moment and would
> be glad to relocate somewhere better before my kids get too old.


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Where do you sell/donate servers?

[Tom Miller]

Hi All,
 
I have a Dell M1000 chassis and it's full.  Half of the blades are new.  Half 
are old and I'm planning to replace them.  Dell does not sell blade refurbs, 
but the older blades are just fine for utility servers and such.  
 
Anyone have any donation/sell site to recommend?  I'd be happy to donate - 
obviously someone would need a chassis already.
 
Tom

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RE: Re-cabling

[Tom Miller]

That's a great idea about the patch panel for each rack.  
 
Agreed about the labeling.  I label everything here.  My team is lucky
I don't stamp their foreheads with name tags.  

>>> Brian Desmond  6/20/2012 11:59 AM >>>

The labeling I agree is far more important. Get a good label printer
that’s designed for cable labeling.
 
Rather than pulling cable all the way down in to the racks, you might
want to think about putting a 24 or 48 port panel in the top (back) of
each rack and then running short patch cables from there. Then on the
other end you can cross connect to the switch or whatever. 
 
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com
 
w – 312.625.1438 | c   – 312.731.3132
 
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Re-cabling
 

As we have a redundant switched network our network team uses color
coding religiously.  

 

Off the top of my head it's something like:

Blue for primary network, green for the secondary (for the teamed
networks)  

Orange for backup

Red for rILO

 

They also label all connections, both ends.  They are not so concerned
with what the system name is, as switch/port it is connected to.  

 

Steven Peck

http://www.blkmtn.org



 

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Ben Scott 
wrote:


On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Tom Miller 
wrote:
> What are your preferences?   Cable color by rack, system, type, etc? 
It's
> just aesthetics but I'm looking for ideas.

 If you want it to look pretty, use the same color for each
rack/switch.  Otherwise that's more confusing than helpful.

 Categorizing by VLAN or type of traffic makes some sense.  E.g.,
yellow is DMZ, blue is main LAN, green is SAN, etc.

 Using a rainbow spread to each rack makes some sense.  Makes it
easier to tell cables apart when you're hunting for or tracing a
particular cable.

 There are some standards for cable sheath color coding, but the ones
I'm aware of are all facility-wide in scope.  Most of your
in-datacenter cabling would be the same color under such schemes.  So
I wouldn't call those helpful for this.

-- Ben


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Re: Re-cabling

[Tom Miller]

Thanks guys.  Dave, deepsurplus.com is much cheaper than my normal vendor, 
cablestogo.  Thanks for the info.

>>> Ben Scott  6/20/2012 10:20 AM >>>
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Tom Miller  wrote:
> What are your preferences?   Cable color by rack, system, type, etc?  It's
> just aesthetics but I'm looking for ideas.

  If you want it to look pretty, use the same color for each
rack/switch.  Otherwise that's more confusing than helpful.

  Categorizing by VLAN or type of traffic makes some sense.  E.g.,
yellow is DMZ, blue is main LAN, green is SAN, etc.

  Using a rainbow spread to each rack makes some sense.  Makes it
easier to tell cables apart when you're hunting for or tracing a
particular cable.

  There are some standards for cable sheath color coding, but the ones
I'm aware of are all facility-wide in scope.  Most of your
in-datacenter cabling would be the same color under such schemes.  So
I wouldn't call those helpful for this.

-- Ben

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Re-cabling

[Tom Miller]

Hi All,
 
My main data center is a series of APC racks, 10 I think.  Cabling is a bit of 
a mess and I'm going to re-cable some weekend this summer.  
 
What are your preferences?   Cable color by rack, system, type, etc?  It's just 
aesthetics but I'm looking for ideas.  The core switches are about in the 
center, so I have cables coming from both sides.  
 
Thanks,
Tom
 
 

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Re: Planning for ICA traffic

[Tom Miller]

Not an issue for this.  Staff won't be logging in with their own accounts to 
the laptops.  We will have the laptops logged in with local generic "train" 
accounts - no AD authentication.  Then from the XenApp web page they'll use 
their AD creds. 

>>> Webster  6/14/2012 1:03 PM >>>
But if he has no DCs on site the users will suffer from a sub optimal logon 
experience.

Webster

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone"Rankin, James R" wrote: 
You could use AppSense Performance Manager to throttle the CPU and memory an 
app uses, if its within your budget. It can increase the user density of XenApp 
systems up to 40%
---Blackberried
From: "Tom Miller"  
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:56:05 -0400
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: Planning for ICA traffic

I know, and that's what's hard about this.  No remote printing.  No audio, very 
little video streaming (we have a few videos and flash items on our Intranet 
site).  
 
XenApp 6.5 on Windows 2008 and 2008 R2 VM servers on XenServer (current 
version).  I've seen the templates and will test them too.  I've only been on 
6.5 for a few weeks and am enjoying all the new features (better printing!).   
This via a CAG, soon to be Netscalers. 
 
Application is called ProFiler, made by Unicare.  It's a good EMR application, 
but it gobbles CPU and memory on XenApp servers.  It even makes Microsoft 
Dynamic Great Plains look "lite", resource-use wise.
 
Tom

>>> Webster  6/13/2012 7:07 PM >>>
Greetings from Charlotte, NC,

ICA/HDX will use from 0% to 100% of the available bandwidth depending on 
numerous factors:

printing
audio
video
bandwidth % limits used in Citrix policies
Bandwidth limits used in Citrix policies

The only answer is "It Depends".

You did not say what XenApp version or OS.  XenApp 5 on 2003 does not have % 
bandwidth limits but XenApp 5 on 2008 does.  XenApp 6.5 has bandwidth templates 
you can base new policies on.

Thanks



Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com ( http://www.carlwebster.com/ )

From: Tom Miller 
Reply-To: NT Issues 
Date: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:39 PM
To: NT Issues 
Subject: Planning for ICA traffic


This is question for you Citrix folks.
 
We are temporarily renting space for staff training of a new clinical medical 
record.  I anticipate about 100 simultaneous concurrent ICA connections from 
the training location, a few miles from our main complex, to our Netscalers.   
No domain controllers or servers - just laptops and staff using our Citrix 
XenApp systems.
 
Unfortunately this is at a local school that is closing, and the District is 
not able to allow us to use the Internet connection.  There is no optical 
connection to this site that an ISP could use.  But, my ISP can make use of the 
copper and provide 50/5 business broadband service.  
 
This should be fine most likely, since there won't be much outbound traffic.  
For the ICA, though, anyone have an "average" to go on?  I know Citrix says it 
could be from 50 kbps up to 500 kbps.  I'm really looking for suggestions from 
those who may have done this.  (I'll also do some measurement on our current 
Gateway users).   I'd rather have too much than too little bandwidth. 
 
Thoughts?  
 
Tom
 
 


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Re: Planning for ICA traffic

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I know, and that's what's hard about this.  No remote printing.  No audio, very 
little video streaming (we have a few videos and flash items on our Intranet 
site).  
 
XenApp 6.5 on Windows 2008 and 2008 R2 VM servers on XenServer (current 
version).  I've seen the templates and will test them too.  I've only been on 
6.5 for a few weeks and am enjoying all the new features (better printing!).   
This via a CAG, soon to be Netscalers. 
 
Application is called ProFiler, made by Unicare.  It's a good EMR application, 
but it gobbles CPU and memory on XenApp servers.  It even makes Microsoft 
Dynamic Great Plains look "lite", resource-use wise.
 
Tom

>>> Webster  6/13/2012 7:07 PM >>>
Greetings from Charlotte, NC,

ICA/HDX will use from 0% to 100% of the available bandwidth depending on 
numerous factors:

printing
audio
video
bandwidth % limits used in Citrix policies
Bandwidth limits used in Citrix policies

The only answer is "It Depends".

You did not say what XenApp version or OS.  XenApp 5 on 2003 does not have % 
bandwidth limits but XenApp 5 on 2008 does.  XenApp 6.5 has bandwidth templates 
you can base new policies on.

Thanks



Carl Webster
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http://www.CarlWebster.com ( http://www.carlwebster.com/ )

From: Tom Miller 
Reply-To: NT Issues 
Date: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:39 PM
To: NT Issues 
Subject: Planning for ICA traffic


This is question for you Citrix folks.
 
We are temporarily renting space for staff training of a new clinical medical 
record.  I anticipate about 100 simultaneous concurrent ICA connections from 
the training location, a few miles from our main complex, to our Netscalers.   
No domain controllers or servers - just laptops and staff using our Citrix 
XenApp systems.
 
Unfortunately this is at a local school that is closing, and the District is 
not able to allow us to use the Internet connection.  There is no optical 
connection to this site that an ISP could use.  But, my ISP can make use of the 
copper and provide 50/5 business broadband service.  
 
This should be fine most likely, since there won't be much outbound traffic.  
For the ICA, though, anyone have an "average" to go on?  I know Citrix says it 
could be from 50 kbps up to 500 kbps.  I'm really looking for suggestions from 
those who may have done this.  (I'll also do some measurement on our current 
Gateway users).   I'd rather have too much than too little bandwidth. 
 
Thoughts?  
 
Tom
 
 


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Planning for ICA traffic

[Tom Miller]

This is question for you Citrix folks.
 
We are temporarily renting space for staff training of a new clinical medical 
record.  I anticipate about 100 simultaneous concurrent ICA connections from 
the training location, a few miles from our main complex, to our Netscalers.   
No domain controllers or servers - just laptops and staff using our Citrix 
XenApp systems.
 
Unfortunately this is at a local school that is closing, and the District is 
not able to allow us to use the Internet connection.  There is no optical 
connection to this site that an ISP could use.  But, my ISP can make use of the 
copper and provide 50/5 business broadband service.  
 
This should be fine most likely, since there won't be much outbound traffic.  
For the ICA, though, anyone have an "average" to go on?  I know Citrix says it 
could be from 50 kbps up to 500 kbps.  I'm really looking for suggestions from 
those who may have done this.  (I'll also do some measurement on our current 
Gateway users).   I'd rather have too much than too little bandwidth. 
 
Thoughts?  
 
Tom
 
 

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RE: iPad and corporate docs

[Tom Miller]

Thanks, and I will take a look.  But I think part of the challenge is how to get the docs other and XenApp or some sort of VPN.>>> Daniel Chenault  6/1/2012 10:20 AM >>>

What kind of documents? If you are referring to Office documents take a look at Quickoffice Pro HD in the iTunes store. I’ve not used it but know someone that has and she was pleased with it.
 

Daniel Chenault
dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com

 


From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 5:51 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: iPad and corporate docs
 

Hi All,

 

Are there any apps that corporate iPad users here can use to modify documents on our corporate network?  

 

I haven't found any, and so far have been having staff use our XenApp system to access whatever corporate apps may be needed.  Aside from the sensitive mouse, this seems to work fine.  

 

Thanks,

Tom
 
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iPad and corporate docs

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Hi All,
 
Are there any apps that corporate iPad users here can use to modify documents 
on our corporate network?  
 
I haven't found any, and so far have been having staff use our XenApp system to 
access whatever corporate apps may be needed.  Aside from the sensitive mouse, 
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Re: Disabling DEP on XenApp/RDS platforms

[Tom Miller]

I don't disable DEP, but set it to essential services only.  DEP conflicts with 
a few non-Microsoft applications I run on my XenApp servers (v 6.5 here).

>>> James Rankin  5/31/2012 5:46 AM >>>
I've read far too much contradictory info on this subject so was wondering if 
anyone could actually clarifyis there any performance gain to be had by 
disabling DEP on XenApp or RDS platforms? I've never noticed any major 
difference myself, but I've got yet another report in front of me that suggests 
disabling DEP is a performance enhancer. I have plenty of defense in depth so 
am not worried about the possible security implications of it, but I'd just 
like to know once and for all if there's any hard evidence that disabling DEP 
is good practice for XenApp or RDS systems.

TIA,




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RE: PC power management

[Tom Miller]

Late to reply on this, but for those of you who have interest...
 
I was able to import the vendor's VM into XenServer just fine.  It runs without 
issue.  The remote on/off power management works well, too.  

>>> "Free, Bob"  4/12/2012 10:57 AM >>>

Our desktop team settled on a product called Night Watchman. I believe it meets 
all your requirements. I know very little about it other than the fact there is 
a web page that I can power up my remote desktop from if I need it J

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: PC power management

 

Are any of you using power management products?  These would be products that 
remotely power on/off, enable monitor shutdown, and such.  Our KBox can take 
advantage of WOL, but I've found in testing that it's not always reliable with 
IP changes from DHCP.

 

We tested a few products and I like one called Greentrac.  This uses an agent 
and has been very reliable in testing the hosted version. Unfortunately, they 
run on Ubuntu and XenServer does not officially support that, and I'm not 
inclined to purchase VMWare for a single installation.   There is no other 
installation option.

 

Suggestions anyone?  I'm looking for products that shut down PCs after 
inactivity, starting at a certain time of the day, can put the monitor to 
sleep, can power on PC and power off.  

 

Recommendations appreciated.

 

Thanks

Tom

 
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Re: Sharepoint for Help Desk Use

[Tom Miller]

Some help desk products have snap-ins to Share Point, so you could look at 
current vendor offerings to see if any integrate that way.  We use Help Star, 
and the current version now integrates with Share Point.  We are one rev behind 
so I cannot attest to what sort of integration though.  Probably just a layer 
on top of SP that points to the existing SQL database that Help Star uses, 
perhaps like our employee Great Plains portal.

>>> Jonathan Link  5/23/2012 6:46 AM >>>
Hi don't know.

On Tuesday, May 22, 2012, Don Ely wrote:



MaybeOn May 22, 2012 2:42 PM, "justino garcia"  wrote:


Hey,
Are IT OPS / Help Desk shops using Sharepoint, for things like knowledge base, 
soultion base, or even ticket system?
Justino

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Re: Time for new core switches

[Tom Miller]

We use the HP 5500G-EI series.  Full management, and I have fiber cards in the 
back to that connect to our buildings here on Campus.   I don't use many 
features, just the common VLAN and dhcp forwarding.   
 
I might just keep with the same series in 10G.  The firmware set is different 
than the 3COM,  hence I can't put them in a single stack.

>>> "Matthew W. Ross"  5/17/2012 2:55 PM >>>
Off the cuff, I'd say HP.

Which model depends on your needs. What switch(es) were you using? Exact model 
please.

Are there additional features you require for this switch? (Layer 3 routing, 
Fiber uplinks, etc.)


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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> Hi Folks,
>  
> My core switch bank is a series of 3COM (HP) 1GIG managed switches.  They've
> worked very well.  I don't think the exact model is made anymore, so I
> cannot add to the current bank.
>  
> Looking at my options, what speeds are you now using for your core switches:
>  1 GB, 10, 100?  We don't do any audio or AutoCad type of things here, but I
> do have several SANS that are connected to the core.  I haven't run any port
> stats yet but I will.  
>  
> What about port size?  Each of these switches has 24 ports.  I could
> continue with smaller switches or look for a few switches with many ports. 
> I recall seeing a Foundry core switch a few years ago and I think it had a
> few hundred ports.  
>  
> Thoughts?  
>  
> Tom
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Time for new core switches

[Tom Miller]

Hi Folks,
 
My core switch bank is a series of 3COM (HP) 1GIG managed switches.  They've 
worked very well.  I don't think the exact model is made anymore, so I cannot 
add to the current bank.
 
Looking at my options, what speeds are you now using for your core switches:  1 
GB, 10, 100?  We don't do any audio or AutoCad type of things here, but I do 
have several SANS that are connected to the core.  I haven't run any port stats 
yet but I will.  
 
What about port size?  Each of these switches has 24 ports.  I could continue 
with smaller switches or look for a few switches with many ports.  I recall 
seeing a Foundry core switch a few years ago and I think it had a few hundred 
ports.  
 
Thoughts?  
 
Tom

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Re: Wireless AP choice

[Tom Miller]

I saw the graphs when I was looking at vendors but the management sold
me.  I use HP/3COM switches here but didn't select HP wireless.  

>>> Steve Ens  5/16/2012 12:35 PM >>>
Exactly. I like the vendor's presentations where they don't compare to
other products. 

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Ben Scott 
wrote:


On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Stefan Jafs 
wrote:
> Apparently by his graphs they outperform anything else on the
> market, Aruba, Cisco, HP, BTW he really dismissed Meraki as a
“consumer”
> product.

Vendor says his product is better than everyone else's. Film at 11.

;-)

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Re: SOHO Firewall

[Tom Miller]

Very easy.  There is now a USB utility that comes with the units.  It normally 
takes me an hour or so to get one configured, polices created, and on-line and 
registered.  Advanced features would take time beyond that, but you folks would 
be able to surf away at that point.

>>> justino garcia  5/14/2012 10:36 AM >>>
How easy to setup is http://www.fortinet.com/products/fortigate/40C.html and 
how reliable is it?

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Tom Miller  wrote:


1+ for Fortinets. I use them at all of our house locations that have broadband. 
You can use LDAP groups for content filters or just everyone gets the same 
filter, which is what I do.
They also have a device called FortiManager, and I use that to centrally manage 
the devices.
Products are easy to manage (web or cli) and flexible. That's good, since 
support isn't great. 

Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
office: 757-788-0528 ( tel:757-788-0528 ) 
mobile: 757-503-0600 ( tel:757-503-0600 )
>>> "Walker, Michael"  5/12/2012 12:52 PM >>>

I am now standardizing on the Fortinet Line for all SMBs . I have been using 
the larger Enterprize models for about six years and love them. They are a 
great value especially if you want Web Content filtering per user. The SOHO 
lines can be configured with most standard configurations through a wizard in 
about 5-10 minutes (much easier than SonicWall).

http://www.fortinet.com/sites/default/files/basicfiles/ProductMatrix.pdf


Michael Walker
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Citrus Valley Health Partners
140 W. College Street, Covina, CA 91723
Phone/Fax/Pager: (888) 299-6882 ( tel:%2%29%20299-6882 )
mwal...@mail.cvhp.org 



From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] 
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Subject: SOHO Firewall



I have been asked for a firewall in a SB with only workgroup server with 
following features:
100mbps bandwidth Web control (possibly per user) Easy to configure 25 users 
(no more) 


TIA

Guido Elia
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RE: SOHO Firewall

[Tom Miller]

1+ for Fortinets.   I use them at all of our house locations that have 
broadband.  You can use LDAP groups for content filters or just everyone gets 
the same filter, which is what I do.
 
They also have a device called FortiManager, and I use that to centrally manage 
the devices.
 
Products are easy to manage (web or cli) and flexible.  That's good, since 
support isn't great.  

 
Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
office:  757-788-0528 
mobile:  757-503-0600
>>> "Walker, Michael"  5/12/2012 12:52 PM >>>

I am now standardizing on the Fortinet Line for all SMBs .  I have been using 
the larger Enterprize models for about six years and love them.  They are a 
great value especially if you want Web Content filtering per user.  The SOHO 
lines can be configured with most standard configurations through a wizard in 
about 5-10 minutes (much easier than SonicWall).
 
http://www.fortinet.com/sites/default/files/basicfiles/ProductMatrix.pdf
 

Michael Walker
Senior Network Engineer
Citrus Valley Health Partners
140 W. College Street, Covina, CA  91723
Phone/Fax/Pager: (888) 299-6882
mwal...@mail.cvhp.org 

 

From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] 
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 7:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SOHO Firewall

 
I have been asked for a firewall in a SB with only workgroup server with 
following features:
 100mbps bandwidth Web control (possibly per user) Easy to configure 25 users 
(no more) 

 
TIA
 
Guido Elia
HELPPC - HELPPC SERVICE
 
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Re: Wireless AP choice

[Tom Miller]

I'm about to roll out Ruckus over a six building Campus  here.  I also have a 
large remote office with Aruba. Both are good, but Aruba is far more work to 
configure and keep configured.  And I'm the only engineer here and don't have 
time to keep up with Aruba.
 
Ruckus is super easy to configure.  There is this ZeroIT configuration tool 
which makes secure connections very easy for your end users.  

>>> Richard Stovall  5/10/2012 11:00 PM >>>
Got it.

I have a friend that owns an SMB insulting firm who is going pretty hard into 
Ruckus. He did a pretty big Aruba installation for a University client several 
years ago, and he says the Ruckus stuff is very good for a lot less money. 
Maybe that's an option.

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Joseph L. Casale  
wrote:


All pfSense boxes, I'm afraid:)

They do have a captive portal, and I actually may use it for offloading the 
public task.
From: Richard Stovall [rich...@gmail.com]
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Subject: Re: Wireless AP choice

What kind of firewall do you have? I ask because the SonicWall wireless stuff 
is very simple to set up and puts the WiFi management right into the same 
familiar console where you manage the firewall.

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Re: PC power management

[Tom Miller]

SCCM is not a possibility.  I already have a systems management tool, and 
purchasing SCCM would be overkill for this task.  But thanks for the lesson on 
it!

>>> Rod Trent  4/12/2012 4:35 PM >>>
A couple things missing from that, which SCCM alone cannot do is to 
automatically preserve data and computing instances when shutting down and 
starting up, and allow the end user to delay or set their own shut down 
policies according to workload.

Another issue is true reporting. SCCM does not know about specific computer 
models, it just has general info. So if you're looking for proper cost savings 
reports due to implementing power management, it's more of a guess.

Stephen Wimberly  wrote:

I use SCCM, but I've done all of this with free products, it just
depends on how automated you'd like to get with it.

shut down PCs after inactivity,
 Shutdown Screensaver (configure local or delivery via almost any
management product)

starting at a certain time of the day,
 BIOS settings to wake (Most Enterprise desktops, like Dell
Optiplex, can be managed remotely or via management products)

can put the monitor to sleep,
 Sleep settings on the monitor can be configured locally or via most
any desktop management product.)

can power on PC
 wol.exe (Executed from a machine running on the same subnet where
the machine is configured in BIOS and Network card to respond to a
wake on lan broadcast.  If the WMI layer is healthy and the drivers
are "correct" this is almost 95% accurate.  Since it's a broadcast it
should not matter what the machine's last IP address was.  Some
software attempts an IP specific address, which can usually get
through a router, but I've had much better luck with broadcast as long
as you have a machine on in the same subnet and can use something like
psexec.)

and power off.
 Shutdown.exe (Execute local or from a remote machine with admin
rights using "shutdown.exe /s /m \\remote"

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PC power management

[Tom Miller]

Are any of you using power management products?  These would be products that 
remotely power on/off, enable monitor shutdown, and such.  Our KBox can take 
advantage of WOL, but I've found in testing that it's not always reliable with 
IP changes from DHCP.
 
We tested a few products and I like one called Greentrac.  This uses an agent 
and has been very reliable in testing the hosted version. Unfortunately, they 
run on Ubuntu and XenServer does not officially support that, and I'm not 
inclined to purchase VMWare for a single installation.   There is no other 
installation option.
 
Suggestions anyone?  I'm looking for products that shut down PCs after 
inactivity, starting at a certain time of the day, can put the monitor to 
sleep, can power on PC and power off.  
 
Recommendations appreciated.
 
Thanks
Tom

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Re: GPP Drives Maps Not Updating Or Replacing

[Tom Miller]

Is your GPP set to "create" or "replace"?  
 
I've had the same issue you report here when moving department files to new 
servers.  Those I had set to create.  I *think* change it to replace took care 
of it, but can't recall off-hand.  You may wish to give it a try.
  
One annoyance similar to what you report:  on laptops that staff take home, the 
drive mappings are still listed in Explorer.  Staff think they can cannot, but 
of course they cannot.  We've considered it a training issue, but you'd think 
if a drive is not available, Windows (XP) would remove it?
 

>>> James Kerr  4/6/2012 2:34 PM >>>
Thought I would inquire with the hive mind on this one. 

Whenever we make a change to a drive albeit a change in path or label whether 
we have the drive set to replace or to update the changes are never made. We 
have to disconnect the drive and then logon to get the changes. Has anybody 
else run into this and found a solution? Our DCs are 2008 and 2008R2. I thought 
maybe I could create a delete of the drive and place it before the mapping of 
the drive but GP editor only allows me to move the delete job up one order 
slot. What are most of you doing fore drive mapping these days? I really don't 
want to go back to Kixtart and my google-fu isn't working well today :-\

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Webinar connect to Polycom

[Tom Miller]

Anyone using any third-party product to connect to a Polycom/LifeTouch (H.323) 
system?  We are starting a partnership with other agencies, and we need to 
connect to a Polycom unit at one location.  I'd prefer not to have to purchase 
Polycom devices, rather use a service like WebEx/GotoMeeting.  I have accounts 
for both, but do not see any way those products can do an IP connection to 
Polycom type systems.
 
Suggestions appreciated.
 
Tom

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