Re: Printing Issue
Are these clients stand-alone XP and XP accessing Citrix (which version of Presentation Server/Xen App?) Or just one of these clients? JimmyZ zang...@gmail.com 11/4/2010 1:01 AM Hello - Having a strange printing issue that I was wondering if anyone can shed some light on. Windows 2003 servers. Print server is also a DC. All HP LJ printers of varying models 42xx. All with static ip and using ip ports on print server. Clients are xp and 2003/citrix. All printers are installed from the server so all using the same pcl 5 drivers. Issue is random print jobs - usualy pdf files but can be word docs get lost. Show up on print q but are never printed. Event log shows event 6161 with source code 29. When I google that it points to permissions issues but I do not get the access denied event and the problem happens when logged in as a domain admin. Anyone got any other ideas? TIA! -- JimmyZ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Printing Issue
Interesting-we've been seeing the same thing here since school started in early September and I've found little online about the issue. Our print servers are currently WS08 R2 using the HP Universal drivers, which could be the same driver on WS03 if you are using the universal driver. Clients are mostly XP with a smattering of W7 and WS08 R2 (RDS)-I've seen the problem from both. Doesn't seem to matter if we use PCL5, 6, or PS for the driver. Print servers are not DCs-we have a 2-node MS failover cluster. We migrated to the WS08 R2 cluster and Universal drivers late last spring, so I really don't know if it actually started at that time but wasn't reported until school started. The only workaround I've found so far is to tell people to click on the advanced button and choose print as image when they print a pdf-always comes out correct when doing that, but it can take much longer to print. We were running earlier HP Universal drivers in September when it was first reported, but I have since updated to the August 31st (current) release, with no difference seen. From: JimmyZ [mailto:zang...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printing Issue Hello - Having a strange printing issue that I was wondering if anyone can shed some light on. Windows 2003 servers. Print server is also a DC. All HP LJ printers of varying models 42xx. All with static ip and using ip ports on print server. Clients are xp and 2003/citrix. All printers are installed from the server so all using the same pcl 5 drivers. Issue is random print jobs - usualy pdf files but can be word docs get lost. Show up on print q but are never printed. Event log shows event 6161 with source code 29. When I google that it points to permissions issues but I do not get the access denied event and the problem happens when logged in as a domain admin. Anyone got any other ideas? TIA! -- JimmyZ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Printing Issue
Does the problem present if you do not use a universal driver? I've had some issues with the Xerox universal driver. Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu 11/4/2010 10:19 AM Interesting—we’ve been seeing the same thing here since school started in early September and I’ve found little online about the issue. Our print servers are currently WS08 R2 using the HP Universal drivers, which could be the same driver on WS03 if you are using the universal driver. Clients are mostly XP with a smattering of W7 and WS08 R2 (RDS)—I’ve seen the problem from both. Doesn’t seem to matter if we use PCL5, 6, or PS for the driver. Print servers are not DCs—we have a 2-node MS failover cluster. We migrated to the WS08 R2 cluster and Universal drivers late last spring, so I really don’t know if it actually started at that time but wasn’t reported until school started. The only workaround I’ve found so far is to tell people to click on the advanced button and choose “print as image” when they print a pdf—always comes out correct when doing that, but it can take much longer to print. We were running earlier HP Universal drivers in September when it was first reported, but I have since updated to the August 31st (current) release, with no difference seen. From: JimmyZ [mailto:zang...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printing Issue Hello - Having a strange printing issue that I was wondering if anyone can shed some light on. Windows 2003 servers. Print server is also a DC. All HP LJ printers of varying models 42xx. All with static ip and using ip ports on print server. Clients are xp and 2003/citrix. All printers are installed from the server so all using the same pcl 5 drivers. Issue is random print jobs - usualy pdf files but can be word docs get lost. Show up on print q but are never printed. Event log shows event 6161 with source code 29. When I google that it points to permissions issues but I do not get the access denied event and the problem happens when logged in as a domain admin. Anyone got any other ideas? TIA! -- JimmyZ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Printing Issue
Both stand alone and on citrix xen app 5 On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Are these clients stand-alone XP and XP accessing Citrix (which version of Presentation Server/Xen App?) Or just one of these clients? JimmyZ zang...@gmail.com 11/4/2010 1:01 AM Hello - Having a strange printing issue that I was wondering if anyone can shed some light on. Windows 2003 servers. Print server is also a DC. All HP LJ printers of varying models 42xx. All with static ip and using ip ports on print server. Clients are xp and 2003/citrix. All printers are installed from the server so all using the same pcl 5 drivers. Issue is random print jobs - usualy pdf files but can be word docs get lost. Show up on print q but are never printed. Event log shows event 6161 with source code 29. When I google that it points to permissions issues but I do not get the access denied event and the problem happens when logged in as a domain admin. Anyone got any other ideas? TIA! -- JimmyZ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- JimmyZ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Printing Issue
We had similar issues with PDF's using the Universal driver. What are you using to print the PDF's? We found that changing the version of Adobe Reader solved that problem. You also say word documents sometimes do not print but appear in the queue. What does the Queue say, does it say printed? -Original Message- From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing Issue Does the problem present if you do not use a universal driver? I've had some issues with the Xerox universal driver. Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu 11/4/2010 10:19 AM Interesting—we’ve been seeing the same thing here since school started in early September and I’ve found little online about the issue. Our print servers are currently WS08 R2 using the HP Universal drivers, which could be the same driver on WS03 if you are using the universal driver. Clients are mostly XP with a smattering of W7 and WS08 R2 (RDS)—I’ve seen the problem from both. Doesn’t seem to matter if we use PCL5, 6, or PS for the driver. Print servers are not DCs—we have a 2-node MS failover cluster. We migrated to the WS08 R2 cluster and Universal drivers late last spring, so I really don’t know if it actually started at that time but wasn’t reported until school started. The only workaround I’ve found so far is to tell people to click on the advanced button and choose “print as image” when they print a pdf—always comes out correct when doing that, but it can take much longer to print. We were running earlier HP Universal drivers in September when it was first reported, but I have since updated to the August 31st (current) release, with no difference seen. From: JimmyZ [mailto:zang...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printing Issue Hello - Having a strange printing issue that I was wondering if anyone can shed some light on. Windows 2003 servers. Print server is also a DC. All HP LJ printers of varying models 42xx. All with static ip and using ip ports on print server. Clients are xp and 2003/citrix. All printers are installed from the server so all using the same pcl 5 drivers. Issue is random print jobs - usualy pdf files but can be word docs get lost. Show up on print q but are never printed. Event log shows event 6161 with source code 29. When I google that it points to permissions issues but I do not get the access denied event and the problem happens when logged in as a domain admin. Anyone got any other ideas? TIA! -- JimmyZ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Printing Issue
I missed the mention of word docs--we've only had issues with PDFs, or at least I've not heard about Word docs not printing in the same manner (they disappear in to cyberspace). Adobe reader or Standard here, versions 9.x AFAIK. Might be 8.x on Standard, but I haven't seen if one of those has any issues. Haven't had much time to try other drivers yet since we have had the workaround. -Original Message- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing Issue We had similar issues with PDF's using the Universal driver. What are you using to print the PDF's? We found that changing the version of Adobe Reader solved that problem. You also say word documents sometimes do not print but appear in the queue. What does the Queue say, does it say printed? -Original Message- From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing Issue Does the problem present if you do not use a universal driver? I've had some issues with the Xerox universal driver. Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu 11/4/2010 10:19 AM Interesting—we’ve been seeing the same thing here since school started in early September and I’ve found little online about the issue. Our print servers are currently WS08 R2 using the HP Universal drivers, which could be the same driver on WS03 if you are using the universal driver. Clients are mostly XP with a smattering of W7 and WS08 R2 (RDS)—I’ve seen the problem from both. Doesn’t seem to matter if we use PCL5, 6, or PS for the driver. Print servers are not DCs—we have a 2-node MS failover cluster. We migrated to the WS08 R2 cluster and Universal drivers late last spring, so I really don’t know if it actually started at that time but wasn’t reported until school started. The only workaround I’ve found so far is to tell people to click on the advanced button and choose “print as image” when they print a pdf—always comes out correct when doing that, but it can take much longer to print. We were running earlier HP Universal drivers in September when it was first reported, but I have since updated to the August 31st (current) release, with no difference seen. From: JimmyZ [mailto:zang...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printing Issue Hello - Having a strange printing issue that I was wondering if anyone can shed some light on. Windows 2003 servers. Print server is also a DC. All HP LJ printers of varying models 42xx. All with static ip and using ip ports on print server. Clients are xp and 2003/citrix. All printers are installed from the server so all using the same pcl 5 drivers. Issue is random print jobs - usualy pdf files but can be word docs get lost. Show up on print q but are never printed. Event log shows event 6161 with source code 29. When I google that it points to permissions issues but I do not get the access denied event and the problem happens when logged in as a domain admin. Anyone got any other ideas? TIA! -- JimmyZ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http
Re: Printing Issue
If you can print direct via IP and not have these issues, then it may be a server driver or permissions issue. I had a permissions issue on my Terminal Servers and had to manually set the perms. See if this helps: http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=6161eventno=4177source=Printphase=1 JimmyZ zang...@gmail.com 11/4/2010 10:51 AM Both stand alone and on citrix xen app 5 On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Are these clients stand-alone XP and XP accessing Citrix (which version of Presentation Server/Xen App?) Or just one of these clients? JimmyZ zang...@gmail.com 11/4/2010 1:01 AM Hello - Having a strange printing issue that I was wondering if anyone can shed some light on. Windows 2003 servers. Print server is also a DC. All HP LJ printers of varying models 42xx. All with static ip and using ip ports on print server. Clients are xp and 2003/citrix. All printers are installed from the server so all using the same pcl 5 drivers. Issue is random print jobs - usualy pdf files but can be word docs get lost. Show up on print q but are never printed. Event log shows event 6161 with source code 29. When I google that it points to permissions issues but I do not get the access denied event and the problem happens when logged in as a domain admin. Anyone got any other ideas? TIA! -- JimmyZ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- JimmyZ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Printing Issue
I have had the issue with only one HP printer and that was an Officejet AIO 7400 series. I finally had to use a different PDF reader, I switched to Foxit. after that I did not have the issue. Adobe was the only app that gave me the issue. Jack Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote: I missed the mention of word docs--we've only had issues with PDFs, or at least I've not heard about Word docs not printing in the same manner (they disappear in to cyberspace). Adobe reader or Standard here, versions 9.x AFAIK. Might be 8.x on Standard, but I haven't seen if one of those has any issues. Haven't had much time to try other drivers yet since we have had the workaround. -Original Message- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 7:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing Issue We had similar issues with PDF's using the Universal driver. What are you using to print the PDF's? We found that changing the version of Adobe Reader solved that problem. You also say word documents sometimes do not print but appear in the queue. What does the Queue say, does it say printed? -Original Message- From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing Issue Does the problem present if you do not use a universal driver? I've had some issues with the Xerox universal driver. Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu 11/4/2010 10:19 AM Interesting—we’ve been seeing the same thing here since school started in early September and I’ve found little online about the issue. Our print servers are currently WS08 R2 using the HP Universal drivers, which could be the same driver on WS03 if you are using the universal driver. Clients are mostly XP with a smattering of W7 and WS08 R2 (RDS)—I’ve seen the problem from both. Doesn’t seem to matter if we use PCL5, 6, or PS for the driver. Print servers are not DCs—we have a 2-node MS failover cluster. We migrated to the WS08 R2 cluster and Universal drivers late last spring, so I really don’t know if it actually started at that time but wasn’t reported until school started. The only workaround I’ve found so far is to tell people to click on the advanced button and choose “print as image” when they print a pdf—always comes out correct when doing that, but it can take much longer to print. We were running earlier HP Universal drivers in September when it was first reported, but I have since updated to the August 31st (current) release, with no difference seen. From: JimmyZ [mailto:zang...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printing Issue Hello - Having a strange printing issue that I was wondering if anyone can shed some light on. Windows 2003 servers. Print server is also a DC. All HP LJ printers of varying models 42xx. All with static ip and using ip ports on print server. Clients are xp and 2003/citrix. All printers are installed from the server so all using the same pcl 5 drivers. Issue is random print jobs - usualy pdf files but can be word docs get lost. Show up on print q but are never printed. Event log shows event 6161 with source code 29. When I google that it points to permissions issues but I do not get the access denied event and the problem happens when logged in as a domain admin. Anyone got any other ideas? TIA! -- JimmyZ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
RE: Printing issue
Right, but that is why you have to consider the time and cost of keeping them up and running, cost per page and replacement parts. In the case of the LaserJet 5, everything you buy is going to be refurbished or third party. That means you are at the mercy of the few people that provide that stuff for price and availability instead of the competitive market. I guess the point I am trying to make is that spending more than an 8 hour day to get a LaserJet 4 or 5 running is not worth it unless whoever owns it is paying someone minimum wage to fix it. Model T Fords can be fixed indefinitely and some have been on the roads for 100 years (and you can still find places that sell replacement parts), but how many people are taking these things on the morning commute? -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue On 17 Dec 2008 at 6:54, Dallas Burnworth wrote: I apologize for not paying attention at the beginning. Not to get too far off the subject, but LaserJet 5? Why are you still using that? They are tanks and last forever, but compared to anything you can get today you are hemorrhaging money just to keep it running. Here are 2 links that will prove it. HP LaserJet Power Calculator. (You will need to know what you pay per KWH.) You can compare new HP printers to Legacy HP printers or current competitive printers. This is really useful and for people trying to save money any way they can, this tells them exactly where the money is going. http://hpbroadband.com/(S(q3zkyv45j14ant45zwnel1rb))/program.aspx?key=In stantOnMFPs I compared my antique Laserjet 5MP with HP's choice to replace it, the LJ2015. Over 5 years, it saved me all of $6 in electricity. Whoopie Doo! LaserJet Page Cost Calculator. 70% of an HP printer's technology (not sure what it is on other brands) is in the cartridge, so it is very important to control the ongoing cost of every printer with consistency in manufacture. In most cases man-hours are much more expensive than just getting the product that is more easily supported and cost the end user or customer less than a single day of consulting fees. http://www.hp.com/large/ipg/mfp/competitive-comparison-m4345mfp.html?jum pid=ex_r2548_go/pagecost This compare big honking units with copier-based units. Most of the cost savings appears to come from the initial purchase price. I'm not saying don't fix the current issue or anything (sometimes you just have to make things work), but you can use these tools in the future to differentiate your value to your customer/boss etc. from your competition and peers. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 +---+ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Printing issue
With the price of gas as high as it is I would but the owners don't seem to want to part with them. Jon On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Dallas Burnworth dallas.burnwo...@zones.com wrote: Right, but that is why you have to consider the time and cost of keeping them up and running, cost per page and replacement parts. In the case of the LaserJet 5, everything you buy is going to be refurbished or third party. That means you are at the mercy of the few people that provide that stuff for price and availability instead of the competitive market. I guess the point I am trying to make is that spending more than an 8 hour day to get a LaserJet 4 or 5 running is not worth it unless whoever owns it is paying someone minimum wage to fix it. Model T Fords can be fixed indefinitely and some have been on the roads for 100 years (and you can still find places that sell replacement parts), but how many people are taking these things on the morning commute? -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue On 17 Dec 2008 at 6:54, Dallas Burnworth wrote: I apologize for not paying attention at the beginning. Not to get too far off the subject, but LaserJet 5? Why are you still using that? They are tanks and last forever, but compared to anything you can get today you are hemorrhaging money just to keep it running. Here are 2 links that will prove it. HP LaserJet Power Calculator. (You will need to know what you pay per KWH.) You can compare new HP printers to Legacy HP printers or current competitive printers. This is really useful and for people trying to save money any way they can, this tells them exactly where the money is going. http://hpbroadband.com/(S(q3zkyv45j14ant45zwnel1rb))/program.aspx?key=In stantOnMFPs I compared my antique Laserjet 5MP with HP's choice to replace it, the LJ2015. Over 5 years, it saved me all of $6 in electricity. Whoopie Doo! LaserJet Page Cost Calculator. 70% of an HP printer's technology (not sure what it is on other brands) is in the cartridge, so it is very important to control the ongoing cost of every printer with consistency in manufacture. In most cases man-hours are much more expensive than just getting the product that is more easily supported and cost the end user or customer less than a single day of consulting fees. http://www.hp.com/large/ipg/mfp/competitive-comparison-m4345mfp.html?jum pid=ex_r2548_go/pagecost This compare big honking units with copier-based units. Most of the cost savings appears to come from the initial purchase price. I'm not saying don't fix the current issue or anything (sometimes you just have to make things work), but you can use these tools in the future to differentiate your value to your customer/boss etc. from your competition and peers. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 +---+ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Printing issue
Last years black friday (post-turkey day) I picked up a Samsung CLP-300 for $99 after rebate. Rarely print color. Probably about 100 pages daily run thru it (ebay/amazon business order printouts). On Ebay you can get generic black toner tubs for that thing under 20 bucks - no integrated drum. The imaging unit probably needs changing after 20,000 pages or so, and thats only 100 bucks. Really cheap printer to operate (and color to boot!) Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 _ From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Printing issue With the price of gas as high as it is I would but the owners don't seem to want to part with them. Jon On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Dallas Burnworth dallas.burnwo...@zones.com wrote: Right, but that is why you have to consider the time and cost of keeping them up and running, cost per page and replacement parts. In the case of the LaserJet 5, everything you buy is going to be refurbished or third party. That means you are at the mercy of the few people that provide that stuff for price and availability instead of the competitive market. I guess the point I am trying to make is that spending more than an 8 hour day to get a LaserJet 4 or 5 running is not worth it unless whoever owns it is paying someone minimum wage to fix it. Model T Fords can be fixed indefinitely and some have been on the roads for 100 years (and you can still find places that sell replacement parts), but how many people are taking these things on the morning commute? -Original Message- From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue On 17 Dec 2008 at 6:54, Dallas Burnworth wrote: I apologize for not paying attention at the beginning. Not to get too far off the subject, but LaserJet 5? Why are you still using that? They are tanks and last forever, but compared to anything you can get today you are hemorrhaging money just to keep it running. Here are 2 links that will prove it. HP LaserJet Power Calculator. (You will need to know what you pay per KWH.) You can compare new HP printers to Legacy HP printers or current competitive printers. This is really useful and for people trying to save money any way they can, this tells them exactly where the money is going. http://hpbroadband.com/(S(q3zkyv45j14ant45zwnel1rb))/program.aspx?key=In stantOnMFPs I compared my antique Laserjet 5MP with HP's choice to replace it, the LJ2015. Over 5 years, it saved me all of $6 in electricity. Whoopie Doo! LaserJet Page Cost Calculator. 70% of an HP printer's technology (not sure what it is on other brands) is in the cartridge, so it is very important to control the ongoing cost of every printer with consistency in manufacture. In most cases man-hours are much more expensive than just getting the product that is more easily supported and cost the end user or customer less than a single day of consulting fees. http://www.hp.com/large/ipg/mfp/competitive-comparison-m4345mfp.html?jum pid=ex_r2548_go/pagecost This compare big honking units with copier-based units. Most of the cost savings appears to come from the initial purchase price. I'm not saying don't fix the current issue or anything (sometimes you just have to make things work), but you can use these tools in the future to differentiate your value to your customer/boss etc. from your competition and peers. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 +---+ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE AND ANY ATTACHMENTS ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE SENDER. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED FOR USE BY THE ADDRESSEE ONLY. ANY OTHER INTERCEPTION, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR DISCLOSURE OF THIS MESSAGE IS PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER AND DELETE THIS MAIL AND ALL ATTACHMENTS. DO NOT FORWARD THIS MESSAGE WITHOUT PERMISSION OF THE SENDER. _ If this email is spam, report it here: http://www.OnlyMyEmail.com/ReportSpam http://www.onlymyemail.com/view/?action=reportSpamId=ODEzNjQ6ODE0ODY4OTcwO nBqcEBwc25ldC5jb20%3D THIS ELECTRONIC MESSAGE AND ANY ATTACHMENTS ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE SENDER. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED FOR USE BY THE ADDRESSEE ONLY. ANY OTHER INTERCEPTION, COPYING, ACCESSING, OR DISCLOSURE OF THIS MESSAGE IS PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS MESSAGE IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER AND DELETE THIS MAIL AND ALL ATTACHMENTS. DO
RE: Printing issue
On 18 Dec 2008 at 7:38, Dallas Burnworth wrote: I guess the point I am trying to make is that spending more than an 8 hour day to get a LaserJet 4 or 5 running is not worth it unless whoever owns it is paying someone minimum wage to fix it. If it were broken, I would agree, but mine at least is working now. I ran my first HP Laser, an LJIII, until something expensive broke -- don't remember, but I think got more than 7 years out of that puppy. The 5MP is its replacement and it's got to be a similar age. Origin of this thread was about driver issues, not the printer, and looking back it seems the problem is on a machine that the original poster had upgraded from Windows 2000 to Windows XP. I'm not surprised that he had problems, everyone I know recommends a clean install over an upgrade. This is one reason I always set up the OS on one drive and all the software and data on another if I can. Model T Fords can be fixed indefinitely and some have been on the roads for 100 years (and you can still find places that sell replacement parts), but how many people are taking these things on the morning commute? Speaking of Model Ts, I still have my first printer, an OKI ML-92, that I got in about 1987; don't know if it'll run, though. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 +---+ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Printing issue
Thank you all . I will go to the customer and try the suggestions. At 09:43 AM 12/17/2008, you wrote: Universal print driver perhaps? http://h20338.www2.hp.com/Hpsub/cache/342988-0-0-225-121.html John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Tony Volpe [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue No. I have not tried the Laserjet Series II, but I fear that I will get the same (a) it installs as shared and (b) goes to offline as did the Laserjet 4 and Laserjet 5/5m At 09:27 AM 12/17/2008, you wrote: Have you tried the LaserJet Series II drivers? I've found those to be an old standby for nearly any older HP LaserJet. Sean Rector, MCSE -Original Message- From: Tony Volpe [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue Did that (more than once), it did not work. There was no hope fro Laserjet 5 and, as I mentioned originally, even though the Laserjet 4 installs, it goes to offline At 09:23 AM 12/17/2008, you wrote: Sorry missed the local part. Delete the printer, Restart the spooler. Goto the server properties and drivers tab. Remove the Printer drivers and reboot. Do a reinstall of the printer. -Original Message- From: Tony Volpe [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue This is directly connected; not shared; and I do not believe the Port Configuration option show anything but transmission retry time Any other thoughts At 08:45 AM 12/17/2008, you wrote: Make sure SNMP is turned off on the port properties. -Original Message- From: cpusunb...@cox.net [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printing issue I did an upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP Pro on two Dell GX270s. Both upgrades went smoothly. One has a Laserjet 1200 attached by the parallel port (LPT1) and it worked well. The other has a Laserjet 5 also connected to the parallel port with a centronics cable. It will not take the Laserjet 5 drivers with Add Printer (error). After may efforts to install the Laserjet 5 , tried the Laserjet 4. It took the driver and it print out the test page then went immediately 'offline'. The offline feature is not checked. It also showed up as shared. If I shut off the share, the Icon show ready then goes immediately to offline. Suggestions please ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 6:11 PM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 6:11 PM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ 2008-2009 Season: Tosca | The Barber of Seville Recently Announced: Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season 2009-2010 Visit us online at www.vaopera.org or call 1.866.OPERA.VA This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 6:11 PM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT
RE: Printing issue
Maybe remove the port in device manager and let it redetect? Any other port options to configure? Sounds like some sort of bidirectional communications issue. -Bonnie -Original Message- From: cpusunb...@cox.net [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printing issue I did an upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP Pro on two Dell GX270s. Both upgrades went smoothly. One has a Laserjet 1200 attached by the parallel port (LPT1) and it worked well. The other has a Laserjet 5 also connected to the parallel port with a centronics cable. It will not take the Laserjet 5 drivers with Add Printer (error). After may efforts to install the Laserjet 5 , tried the Laserjet 4. It took the driver and it print out the test page then went immediately 'offline'. The offline feature is not checked. It also showed up as shared. If I shut off the share, the Icon show ready then goes immediately to offline. Suggestions please ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Printing issue
Have you tried the LaserJet Series II drivers? I've found those to be an old standby for nearly any older HP LaserJet. Sean Rector, MCSE -Original Message- From: Tony Volpe [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue Did that (more than once), it did not work. There was no hope fro Laserjet 5 and, as I mentioned originally, even though the Laserjet 4 installs, it goes to offline At 09:23 AM 12/17/2008, you wrote: Sorry missed the local part. Delete the printer, Restart the spooler. Goto the server properties and drivers tab. Remove the Printer drivers and reboot. Do a reinstall of the printer. -Original Message- From: Tony Volpe [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue This is directly connected; not shared; and I do not believe the Port Configuration option show anything but transmission retry time Any other thoughts At 08:45 AM 12/17/2008, you wrote: Make sure SNMP is turned off on the port properties. -Original Message- From: cpusunb...@cox.net [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printing issue I did an upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP Pro on two Dell GX270s. Both upgrades went smoothly. One has a Laserjet 1200 attached by the parallel port (LPT1) and it worked well. The other has a Laserjet 5 also connected to the parallel port with a centronics cable. It will not take the Laserjet 5 drivers with Add Printer (error). After may efforts to install the Laserjet 5 , tried the Laserjet 4. It took the driver and it print out the test page then went immediately 'offline'. The offline feature is not checked. It also showed up as shared. If I shut off the share, the Icon show ready then goes immediately to offline. Suggestions please ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 6:11 PM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 6:11 PM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ 2008-2009 Season: Tosca | The Barber of Seville Recently Announced: Virginia Opera's 35th Anniversary Season 2009-2010 Visit us online at www.vaopera.org or call 1.866.OPERA.VA This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). Unless otherwise specified, persons unnamed as recipients may not read, distribute, copy or alter this e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail belong to the author and may not necessarily represent those of Virginia Opera. Although precautions have been taken to ensure no viruses are present, Virginia Opera cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that may arise from the use of this e-mail or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Printing issue
Sorry missed the local part. Delete the printer, Restart the spooler. Goto the server properties and drivers tab. Remove the Printer drivers and reboot. Do a reinstall of the printer. -Original Message- From: Tony Volpe [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue This is directly connected; not shared; and I do not believe the Port Configuration option show anything but transmission retry time Any other thoughts At 08:45 AM 12/17/2008, you wrote: Make sure SNMP is turned off on the port properties. -Original Message- From: cpusunb...@cox.net [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printing issue I did an upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP Pro on two Dell GX270s. Both upgrades went smoothly. One has a Laserjet 1200 attached by the parallel port (LPT1) and it worked well. The other has a Laserjet 5 also connected to the parallel port with a centronics cable. It will not take the Laserjet 5 drivers with Add Printer (error). After may efforts to install the Laserjet 5 , tried the Laserjet 4. It took the driver and it print out the test page then went immediately 'offline'. The offline feature is not checked. It also showed up as shared. If I shut off the share, the Icon show ready then goes immediately to offline. Suggestions please ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 6:11 PM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Printing issue
I apologize for not paying attention at the beginning. Not to get too far off the subject, but LaserJet 5? Why are you still using that? They are tanks and last forever, but compared to anything you can get today you are hemorrhaging money just to keep it running. Here are 2 links that will prove it. HP LaserJet Power Calculator. (You will need to know what you pay per KWH.) You can compare new HP printers to Legacy HP printers or current competitive printers. This is really useful and for people trying to save money any way they can, this tells them exactly where the money is going. http://hpbroadband.com/(S(q3zkyv45j14ant45zwnel1rb))/program.aspx?key=In stantOnMFPs LaserJet Page Cost Calculator. 70% of an HP printer's technology (not sure what it is on other brands) is in the cartridge, so it is very important to control the ongoing cost of every printer with consistency in manufacture. In most cases man-hours are much more expensive than just getting the product that is more easily supported and cost the end user or customer less than a single day of consulting fees. http://www.hp.com/large/ipg/mfp/competitive-comparison-m4345mfp.html?jum pid=ex_r2548_go/pagecost I'm not saying don't fix the current issue or anything (sometimes you just have to make things work), but you can use these tools in the future to differentiate your value to your customer/boss etc. from your competition and peers. Dallas -Original Message- From: Tony Volpe [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue Did that (more than once), it did not work. There was no hope fro Laserjet 5 and, as I mentioned originally, even though the Laserjet 4 installs, it goes to offline At 09:23 AM 12/17/2008, you wrote: Sorry missed the local part. Delete the printer, Restart the spooler. Goto the server properties and drivers tab. Remove the Printer drivers and reboot. Do a reinstall of the printer. -Original Message- From: Tony Volpe [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue This is directly connected; not shared; and I do not believe the Port Configuration option show anything but transmission retry time Any other thoughts At 08:45 AM 12/17/2008, you wrote: Make sure SNMP is turned off on the port properties. -Original Message- From: cpusunb...@cox.net [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printing issue I did an upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP Pro on two Dell GX270s. Both upgrades went smoothly. One has a Laserjet 1200 attached by the parallel port (LPT1) and it worked well. The other has a Laserjet 5 also connected to the parallel port with a centronics cable. It will not take the Laserjet 5 drivers with Add Printer (error). After may efforts to install the Laserjet 5 , tried the Laserjet 4. It took the driver and it print out the test page then went immediately 'offline'. The offline feature is not checked. It also showed up as shared. If I shut off the share, the Icon show ready then goes immediately to offline. Suggestions please ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 6:11 PM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 6:11 PM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Printing issue
Make sure SNMP is turned off on the port properties. -Original Message- From: cpusunb...@cox.net [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printing issue I did an upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP Pro on two Dell GX270s. Both upgrades went smoothly. One has a Laserjet 1200 attached by the parallel port (LPT1) and it worked well. The other has a Laserjet 5 also connected to the parallel port with a centronics cable. It will not take the Laserjet 5 drivers with Add Printer (error). After may efforts to install the Laserjet 5 , tried the Laserjet 4. It took the driver and it print out the test page then went immediately 'offline'. The offline feature is not checked. It also showed up as shared. If I shut off the share, the Icon show ready then goes immediately to offline. Suggestions please ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Printing issue
Not too long ago, I assisted at a company that upgraded 210 workstations from Win 2000 to XP Pro. Of the 210, 6 had issues and 2 were printer related (network printers). Upgrading would avoid reinstalling the software which would be very time consuming. I am trying to avoid a clean install. Thank you for the input At 10:41 AM 12/17/2008, you wrote: Did you really run an upgrade from W2K - XP ? Why that ? I've never seen one without driver probs after some time. Run a clean install of XP and it will work. -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: cpusunb...@cox.net [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sendt: 17. desember 2008 14:31 Til: NT System Admin Issues Emne: Printing issue I did an upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP Pro on two Dell GX270s. Both upgrades went smoothly. One has a Laserjet 1200 attached by the parallel port (LPT1) and it worked well. The other has a Laserjet 5 also connected to the parallel port with a centronics cable. It will not take the Laserjet 5 drivers with Add Printer (error). After may efforts to install the Laserjet 5 , tried the Laserjet 4. It took the driver and it print out the test page then went immediately 'offline'. The offline feature is not checked. It also showed up as shared. If I shut off the share, the Icon show ready then goes immediately to offline. Suggestions please ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1853 - Release Date: 12/17/2008 8:31 AM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Printing issue
If you haven't already I would suggest you completely uninstall the printer, restart the computer and try again. Maybe with more current drivers than are on the XP build - http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=encc=usprodNameId=14999prodTypeId=18972prodSeriesId=25479swLang=8swEnvOID=228 John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Tony Volpe [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue This is directly connected; not shared; and I do not believe the Port Configuration option show anything but transmission retry time Any other thoughts At 08:45 AM 12/17/2008, you wrote: Make sure SNMP is turned off on the port properties. -Original Message- From: cpusunb...@cox.net [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printing issue I did an upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP Pro on two Dell GX270s. Both upgrades went smoothly. One has a Laserjet 1200 attached by the parallel port (LPT1) and it worked well. The other has a Laserjet 5 also connected to the parallel port with a centronics cable. It will not take the Laserjet 5 drivers with Add Printer (error). After may efforts to install the Laserjet 5 , tried the Laserjet 4. It took the driver and it print out the test page then went immediately 'offline'. The offline feature is not checked. It also showed up as shared. If I shut off the share, the Icon show ready then goes immediately to offline. Suggestions please ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 6:11 PM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Printing issue
We have a laserjet 4 in the accounts office. It has outlasted 3 HP1320N's and it has been decided to keep it out of the cupboard until it too dies. -Original Message- From: Dallas Burnworth [mailto:dallas.burnwo...@zones.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue I apologize for not paying attention at the beginning. Not to get too far off the subject, but LaserJet 5? Why are you still using that? They are tanks and last forever, but compared to anything you can get today you are hemorrhaging money just to keep it running. Here are 2 links that will prove it. HP LaserJet Power Calculator. (You will need to know what you pay per KWH.) You can compare new HP printers to Legacy HP printers or current competitive printers. This is really useful and for people trying to save money any way they can, this tells them exactly where the money is going. http://hpbroadband.com/(S(q3zkyv45j14ant45zwnel1rb))/program.aspx?key=In stantOnMFPs LaserJet Page Cost Calculator. 70% of an HP printer's technology (not sure what it is on other brands) is in the cartridge, so it is very important to control the ongoing cost of every printer with consistency in manufacture. In most cases man-hours are much more expensive than just getting the product that is more easily supported and cost the end user or customer less than a single day of consulting fees. http://www.hp.com/large/ipg/mfp/competitive-comparison-m4345mfp.html?jum pid=ex_r2548_go/pagecost I'm not saying don't fix the current issue or anything (sometimes you just have to make things work), but you can use these tools in the future to differentiate your value to your customer/boss etc. from your competition and peers. Dallas -Original Message- From: Tony Volpe [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue Did that (more than once), it did not work. There was no hope fro Laserjet 5 and, as I mentioned originally, even though the Laserjet 4 installs, it goes to offline At 09:23 AM 12/17/2008, you wrote: Sorry missed the local part. Delete the printer, Restart the spooler. Goto the server properties and drivers tab. Remove the Printer drivers and reboot. Do a reinstall of the printer. -Original Message- From: Tony Volpe [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue This is directly connected; not shared; and I do not believe the Port Configuration option show anything but transmission retry time Any other thoughts At 08:45 AM 12/17/2008, you wrote: Make sure SNMP is turned off on the port properties. -Original Message- From: cpusunb...@cox.net [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printing issue I did an upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP Pro on two Dell GX270s. Both upgrades went smoothly. One has a Laserjet 1200 attached by the parallel port (LPT1) and it worked well. The other has a Laserjet 5 also connected to the parallel port with a centronics cable. It will not take the Laserjet 5 drivers with Add Printer (error). After may efforts to install the Laserjet 5 , tried the Laserjet 4. It took the driver and it print out the test page then went immediately 'offline'. The offline feature is not checked. It also showed up as shared. If I shut off the share, the Icon show ready then goes immediately to offline. Suggestions please ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 6:11 PM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 6:11 PM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Printing issue
Did that (more than once), it did not work. There was no hope fro Laserjet 5 and, as I mentioned originally, even though the Laserjet 4 installs, it goes to offline At 09:23 AM 12/17/2008, you wrote: Sorry missed the local part. Delete the printer, Restart the spooler. Goto the server properties and drivers tab. Remove the Printer drivers and reboot. Do a reinstall of the printer. -Original Message- From: Tony Volpe [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue This is directly connected; not shared; and I do not believe the Port Configuration option show anything but transmission retry time Any other thoughts At 08:45 AM 12/17/2008, you wrote: Make sure SNMP is turned off on the port properties. -Original Message- From: cpusunb...@cox.net [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printing issue I did an upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP Pro on two Dell GX270s. Both upgrades went smoothly. One has a Laserjet 1200 attached by the parallel port (LPT1) and it worked well. The other has a Laserjet 5 also connected to the parallel port with a centronics cable. It will not take the Laserjet 5 drivers with Add Printer (error). After may efforts to install the Laserjet 5 , tried the Laserjet 4. It took the driver and it print out the test page then went immediately 'offline'. The offline feature is not checked. It also showed up as shared. If I shut off the share, the Icon show ready then goes immediately to offline. Suggestions please ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 6:11 PM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 6:11 PM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Printing issue
OK I have not seen you specific error, however I have had similar problems in the past. Have you tried a different Centronics Cable? I have seen that cause a similar problem in the past. -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 11:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue We have a laserjet 4 in the accounts office. It has outlasted 3 HP1320N's and it has been decided to keep it out of the cupboard until it too dies. -Original Message- From: Dallas Burnworth [mailto:dallas.burnwo...@zones.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue I apologize for not paying attention at the beginning. Not to get too far off the subject, but LaserJet 5? Why are you still using that? They are tanks and last forever, but compared to anything you can get today you are hemorrhaging money just to keep it running. Here are 2 links that will prove it. HP LaserJet Power Calculator. (You will need to know what you pay per KWH.) You can compare new HP printers to Legacy HP printers or current competitive printers. This is really useful and for people trying to save money any way they can, this tells them exactly where the money is going. http://hpbroadband.com/(S(q3zkyv45j14ant45zwnel1rb))/program.aspx?key=In stantOnMFPs LaserJet Page Cost Calculator. 70% of an HP printer's technology (not sure what it is on other brands) is in the cartridge, so it is very important to control the ongoing cost of every printer with consistency in manufacture. In most cases man-hours are much more expensive than just getting the product that is more easily supported and cost the end user or customer less than a single day of consulting fees. http://www.hp.com/large/ipg/mfp/competitive-comparison-m4345mfp.html?jum pid=ex_r2548_go/pagecost I'm not saying don't fix the current issue or anything (sometimes you just have to make things work), but you can use these tools in the future to differentiate your value to your customer/boss etc. from your competition and peers. Dallas -Original Message- From: Tony Volpe [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue Did that (more than once), it did not work. There was no hope fro Laserjet 5 and, as I mentioned originally, even though the Laserjet 4 installs, it goes to offline At 09:23 AM 12/17/2008, you wrote: Sorry missed the local part. Delete the printer, Restart the spooler. Goto the server properties and drivers tab. Remove the Printer drivers and reboot. Do a reinstall of the printer. -Original Message- From: Tony Volpe [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Printing issue This is directly connected; not shared; and I do not believe the Port Configuration option show anything but transmission retry time Any other thoughts At 08:45 AM 12/17/2008, you wrote: Make sure SNMP is turned off on the port properties. -Original Message- From: cpusunb...@cox.net [mailto:cpusunb...@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printing issue I did an upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP Pro on two Dell GX270s. Both upgrades went smoothly. One has a Laserjet 1200 attached by the parallel port (LPT1) and it worked well. The other has a Laserjet 5 also connected to the parallel port with a centronics cable. It will not take the Laserjet 5 drivers with Add Printer (error). After may efforts to install the Laserjet 5 , tried the Laserjet 4. It took the driver and it print out the test page then went immediately 'offline'. The offline feature is not checked. It also showed up as shared. If I shut off the share, the Icon show ready then goes immediately to offline. Suggestions please ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 6:11 PM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1852 - Release Date: 12/16/2008 6:11 PM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally
RE: Printing issue
On 17 Dec 2008 at 6:54, Dallas Burnworth wrote: I apologize for not paying attention at the beginning. Not to get too far off the subject, but LaserJet 5? Why are you still using that? They are tanks and last forever, but compared to anything you can get today you are hemorrhaging money just to keep it running. Here are 2 links that will prove it. HP LaserJet Power Calculator. (You will need to know what you pay per KWH.) You can compare new HP printers to Legacy HP printers or current competitive printers. This is really useful and for people trying to save money any way they can, this tells them exactly where the money is going. http://hpbroadband.com/(S(q3zkyv45j14ant45zwnel1rb))/program.aspx?key=In stantOnMFPs I compared my antique Laserjet 5MP with HP's choice to replace it, the LJ2015. Over 5 years, it saved me all of $6 in electricity. Whoopie Doo! LaserJet Page Cost Calculator. 70% of an HP printer's technology (not sure what it is on other brands) is in the cartridge, so it is very important to control the ongoing cost of every printer with consistency in manufacture. In most cases man-hours are much more expensive than just getting the product that is more easily supported and cost the end user or customer less than a single day of consulting fees. http://www.hp.com/large/ipg/mfp/competitive-comparison-m4345mfp.html?jum pid=ex_r2548_go/pagecost This compare big honking units with copier-based units. Most of the cost savings appears to come from the initial purchase price. I'm not saying don't fix the current issue or anything (sometimes you just have to make things work), but you can use these tools in the future to differentiate your value to your customer/boss etc. from your competition and peers. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 +---+ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Printing Issue
Looks like it comes with the ZAK. Not sure where else. Check technet. -Original Message-From: Mark Pilbeam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 12:37 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Printing Issue What is the con2prt utility, and where do I get it from? -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 5:58 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Printing Issue I dunno. I didn't waste too much time on it at the time. I used the Con2prt utility, put it in a batch file and put itif I remember correctly in the startup folder on the several pc's in question. -Original Message-From: Steve Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 9:33 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Printing Issue I am also having this issue with mandatory profiles. When I log in with an mandatory account to a machine ( which has two three lexmark tcp/ip printers installed on it ) how does it determine which printer is the one going to be set as the default. I think the list of printers installed on an NT machine is stored in : HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Print\Printers and the user setting is stored in : HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\Windows\Device ( another list of printer stored in HKCU\Sw\MS\WinNT\PrinterPorts How does the machine emunerate HKLM and decide which one is set as default? Can we apply a weighting somehow to force it?? -Original Message-From: Bob Chyka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 17 August 2001 15:18To: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Printing Issue If this email has any attachments then send it onto the IT Help Desk for virus checking Hello, i was wondering if anyone knows a way to have machines print to a specific printer no matter who logs on. for example we have a computer lab and each student has their own account. they have a roaming profile so they can log into any comuter in the school and retain settings etc. server is w2k sp2 and workstations are w2k pro and nt 4.0. is there a way so when they log into one of the lab computers it only captures the printers in the lab, when they go to the library they only capture the library printers, etc? could it possibly be in group policy for machines? any help is greatly appreciated.. Bob Chykahttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, please immediately notify the Muir Group IT Help Desk on +44 (0) 1244 606139http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Printing Issue
This isnt as slick a group policy, but if you install the printers as local printers they will be machine specific instead of user specific. You can then change the port to point to the network printer. Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134 -Original Message- From: Bob Chyka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Printing Issue Hello, i was wondering if anyone knows a way to have machines print to a specific printer no matter who logs on. for example we have a computer lab and each student has their own account. they have a roaming profile so they can log into any comuter in the school and retain settings etc. server is w2k sp2 and workstations are w2k pro and nt 4.0. is there a way so when they log into one of the lab computers it only captures the printers in the lab, when they go to the library they only capture the library printers, etc? could it possibly be in group policy for machines? any help is greatly appreciated.. Bob Chyka http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
Re: Printing Issue
will give it a shot..thanks.. - Original Message - From: Chris Bodnar To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:58 AM Subject: RE: Printing Issue This isnt as slick a group policy, but if you install the printers as local printers they will be machine specific instead of user specific. You can then change the port to point to the network printer. Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134 -Original Message-From: Bob Chyka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:18 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Printing Issue Hello, i was wondering if anyone knows a way to have machines print to a specific printer no matter who logs on. for example we have a computer lab and each student has their own account. they have a roaming profile so they can log into any comuter in the school and retain settings etc. server is w2k sp2 and workstations are w2k pro and nt 4.0. is there a way so when they log into one of the lab computers it only captures the printers in the lab, when they go to the library they only capture the library printers, etc? could it possibly be in group policy for machines? any help is greatly appreciated.. Bob Chyka http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: Printing Issue
and that'll make it the default printer when someone with a roaming profile logs in? -Original Message-From: Bob Chyka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 8:57 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Printing Issue will give it a shot..thanks.. - Original Message - From: Chris Bodnar To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:58 AM Subject: RE: Printing Issue This isnt as slick a group policy, but if you install the printers as local printers they will be machine specific instead of user specific. You can then change the port to point to the network printer. Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134 -Original Message-From: Bob Chyka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:18 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Printing Issue Hello, i was wondering if anyone knows a way to have machines print to a specific printer no matter who logs on. for example we have a computer lab and each student has their own account. they have a roaming profile so they can log into any comuter in the school and retain settings etc. server is w2k sp2 and workstations are w2k pro and nt 4.0. is there a way so when they log into one of the lab computers it only captures the printers in the lab, when they go to the library they only capture the library printers, etc? could it possibly be in group policy for machines? any help is greatly appreciated.. Bob Chyka http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
